Foods that have legitametly been forged in America.E.g. the hot dog and hamburger are both from Germany, the Cup of Noodles is from Eastern Asia, the Fish and Chips is from Norway/NW Europe, ...What are we looking at here? Sweet potatoes with marshmallows on top? Blavkberry cobbler(blackberries are not really native to America, only the teenie tiny ones), I guess Thanksgiving turkey dinner maybe... with the stuffing... Not sure what the origin of that is, perhaps the turducken...no the turducken is definitely American food. What else...
Another esl thread for people jealous of the US. How fun.
I'm not interested in providing you with targets to fabricate discrediting stories for.
>>19717689America is a melting pot. it takes the best of every ethnicity that came here for a more fulfilling life and made it better.
Europoor seethe about America thread #72626286
>>19717689>the hot dog and hamburger are both from Germanythey literally are notsame with pizza, chili con carne (in fact most tex mex food is more tex than mex) all the different chinese takeout things
>>19717721...pizza is from Italy. World War vets came back asking to "the pizza herb."chili con carne... carne is Spanish for meat... not sure on that one.>>19717710>I'm not interested in providing you with targets to fabricate discrediting stories for.found the faggit
>>19717689>legitametlyKeep working on the English, Hernandez.
>>19717719This is the cooking board. American threads are irrelevant here. As they have been in any online community for the past 3 decades. Keep trying though, Ivan.
>>19717726the first pizzeria opened in NY in 1905, way before the warpost war is actually when it became popular in italy. The italians had the word pizza but it referred to a focaccia with tomato slices baked on top of it. It wasn't the saucy cheesy bread we have todayitalian immigrants that went back to the old country brought the american style of pizza with them and then italy made it's own regional versions. But it was american first then you have "sicilian style" pizza which isn't really a sicilian style. Sicily has a dish called sfincione which is a square bread baked in a sheet pan with sauce and breadcrumbs on topthe fact it's square and thick is basically the only resemblance to what americans call sicilian pizza
>>19717689>rent fucking free
>>19717721>the hot dog and hamburger are both from Germany>they literally are notSure they are. Americans just replaced proper bread rolls with those sugary soggy breads made for people without teeth.
>>19717803>replaced proper bread rollsgerman frikadelle is not a sandwich and again hotdogs are a sausage originating in america
>>19717689America is a young nation that was filled with other countries. How do don't understand a country like this wouldn't have many original dishes is beyond me. What America did do is take foods and make them better. /thread
>>19717830Looks like a sandwich to me.
>>19717833They need it to cope because their countries have been utterly irrelevent since 1776 Those coattails must be getting awfully worn by now
>>19717852now you're just being dishonestbut it's ok, everyone know that
>>19717726>found the faggitYou're jewish.
Well there's sloppa joe but looking at it, it seems like peak british cuisine
>>19717715the melting pot was invented as a narrative in 1913>>19717689most of the food commonly seen as mexican (tacos and all that foodtruck stuff), also i believe chop suey>>19717833>America is a young nationit's neither a nation nor all that young
>>19717886That's a pretty common way to serve it and also has been in history.
>>19717921Your argument is because a meatloaf can be used as a filling for a sandwichTherefore meatloaf is a sandwichThe American hamburger has nothing to do with hamburg other than vaguely resembling something people associated with Germansthe same way French fries have nothing to do with FranceAnd that's even to say the standard American burger of being one more pan fried beef patties topped with cheese, lettuce, tomato, onion, pickles ketchup, and mayo on a toasted sesame seed bun barely even superficially resembles that picture
>>19717950>topped with cheese, lettuce, tomato, onion, pickles ketchup, and mayo on a toasted sesame seed bun barely even superficially resembles that pictureNothing of that is mandatory.
>>19717963 That's the dish though, you can do whatever toppings you want or don't wantJust like you can out BBQ sauce and chicken on a pizza and still call it a pizza, but there is a default setting and what I said is it
>>19717689>E.g. the hot dog and hamburger are both from GermanyThis is exceptionally disingenuous. The bun, the SPECIFIC type of sausage and the combination thereof to create a hot dog were American innovations. Same goes for the hamburger; if you took everything from a double cheeseburger and put it on a a kaiser roll it still wouldn't be a fucking hamburger because a hamburger needs a hamburger BUN.
>>19718099So why do brioche buns count?
>>19717689mac&cheese, grilled cheese, american "cheese"Americans are all about the cheese, it seems.
>>19717950Manwich! A solid American food!
>>19718131Actually, Americans are all about sauce. American cheese melts into a cheese sauce with minimal effort. American Sauces... ranch, maybe? BBQ? Buffalo for sure...
>>19718252any sauce on that?
Americans invented lactose-free cow milk in an attempt to destroy the alternative milk industry.
>>19717721>neapolitan pizza is not from napoly bro
>>19718616yes.
All the different types of barbecue and fried chickenpotato chipsfunnel cake
>>19717689Pop quiz, where do you think German cake is from?
Tater tots
Cheesesteak?
>>19717689Pasta is actually Chinese by those standards. America takes all the foods of the world and makes them palatable for all the races of the world. Your traditional ways of making food fall apart when put to the test.
>>19719589pasta is not chinese by those standards in any way shape or form because the italians did not get pasta from china, they had pasta before they had any chinese contact.
>>19717900>the melting pot was invented as a narrative in 1913it became the case in 1913, the US hasn't just remained in stasis while people invent new narratives around it>it's neither a nation"one ______ under god">nor all that youngit has a culture of traditions shorter than four human lifetimes, so yes it's young
is this the thread where we pretend america doesn't have the widest variety of delicious food available out of every country on the whole planet>b-b-but that was inve-invented by some shitskin in a thir-don't give a fuck who made it yuropissdrinker we took it and made it better
>>19717689>legitametlyDoesn’t know what it means. Does know how to spell it.
>>19720118mongrel nation raised on mongrel food
>>19720109>it became the case in 1913, the US hasn't just remained in stasis while people invent new narratives around iti see it more as a reinvention of the founding myth that has started back in 1913 and seems to be more or less finished by now, from "wasp foundingfathers declared wasp british colonies independent in 1776" to "nation of immigrants here to racemix">"one ______ under god"when first written in 1892, america was closer to being a nation than today. at the latest after ww2, it is not any more. taking as a fact what some oldschool propaganda mantra says seems naive to me. i wouldn't describe the US as indivisible anymore, either>traditions shorter than four human lifetimesi'm not sure what you mean by lifetimes, if you mean 60 years that would be 240 years in total. how many republics did france start in that timeframe? what about germany or italy, who weren't even unified back then? how many even european traditions are younger than 240 years? you can, at best, argue that there is an american ethnos and its ethnogenesis is a young one, but neither the political entity america nor its culture is all that young
The hamburger is American. Yes, hamburg Germany may have put ground meat between a bread roll, and if they were feeling frisky they'd even add grilled onions. But the hamburger as it's known today with the toasted seasame bun, American cheese, lettuce, pickles, etc. etc. is distinctly American. Anyone who pretends like they seriously think of Germany when you say hamburger is a liar. This applies to most American foods too.
>>19717780>the first pizzeria opened in NY in 1905, way before the warPIzza Margherita was invented before that. >>19717830>hotdogs are a sausageHotdogs are sausage in bread>>19717833>What America did do is take foods and make them better.Adapting foreign dishes to their own palate is really just Americanizing them though. Many of those are different and stand on their own ground and delicious in themselves, but not necessarily better by objective metrics.
>>19720109>it became the case in 1913,no it didnt. Even after Hart Celler there was no melting
>>19717689fish and chips are of jewish origin you appropriating retard
>>19720261?
>>19717726chili con carne is very much not american, its not even south americanI really don't know where this idea comes from, it is of spanish origin, always has been
god.bless.america
the real question is "how many ingredients must be changed for a dish to be considered unique and seperate from similar dishes?" you add cheese to a hamburger and it becomes a new dish called a cheeseburger for example. So whoever first added cheese to the hamburger determines where the cheeseburger originated, it's not some magical extension of the former. As that would imply the cheeseburgers creator didnt have an ethnicity or nationality. To say pizza is itallian is just as stupid as saying that Pizza predates Rome. Sure, putting toppings on bread precedes Rome itsself as a nation, but they werent using tomato sauce, broiling cheese and cures meets directly on the wire rack like Adam Ragusea either. theyre different dishes. An american variety of Pizza originated in America, just as the Itallian variet originated in Italy, and not Rome.entire thread deconstructed.
>>19720328Neither tomato sauce, cheese or "meets" are the defining elements of pizza.
>>19720347yeah, is it that hard to remember pineapple?
Any turkey based dish is inherently American, as the bird is only native to...North America.Monterey Jack and thus Pepper JackCornbreadCream CheeseRuebenItalian Beef (Get fucked Italy, Chicago beat you to it, BUNCHA FAGS)The entire category of tex-mexCuban sandwich (actually from Florida)Actually any sandwich worth a damn, really
>>19720235>PIzza Margherita was invented before that.thats a cute story they tell but there's no evidence of it
>>19717715The best? KEK no
>>19717726>...pizza is from Italy.Yet everyone in the world outside of Italy eats and prefers american style pizza. Curious
>>19717689Buffalo wingsBBQCajun-Jumbalaya, gumbo, etcSeafood boil. Maryland: blue crab, Louisiana : Crawfish Peanut butterLobster rollFajitas Philly cheesesteakCaesar saladBiscuits and gravy Clam chowdercorn dogA million unique sandwich variations of which some have already been postedChocolate chip cookiesGerman chocolate cakeKey lime piePecan pieSmores
>>19721586>Yet everyone in the world outside of Italy eats and prefers american style pizza.Not true.
>>19718099>>19717689https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburg_steakit took until the 30s in new york for people to regularly eat hamburg steaks on bread
>>19721196funniest thing about the cuban sandwich is that it was invented by Italian immigrants in Tampa
We take food from the rest of the world and make it better. It’s the natural order of the world and you can’t fight it.
>>19717721The hamburger is literally frikadelle on a roll, and as such, is absolutely German in origin.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburg_steak
>>19717830>hotdogs are a sausage originating in americaYou mean Frankfurt sausages, or frankfurters as they’re called by Americans? Ever stop to wonder why they’re named for Frankfurt, Germany?
>>19723375>adds corn syrup>suddenly it's better
>>19717689Looks like a french "rôti sans pareil" for poor. Nothing legitimatly american to me.
>>19723485Cope.
>>19721778Kek. BBQ is fucking African in origin.
>>19717715The majority of Americans have been English speaking Protestant Germanics for it's entire history. America became a powerful and successful country because of English, Scots, Germans and Nords. The Irish Papists are a bunch of drunk retards who's main contribution to America is creating the most corrupt cities and political dynasties in American history. The Sicilians brought organized crime. If you removed blacks half of America's problems would disappear overnight. And all the post 60s immigrants are parasites who are sucking America dry.The idea of a nation being strong because it's a "melting pot" is an inherently false idea, you can't make something good with subpar ingredients, if you mix milk and shit you don't get chocolate milk.
Cool, I think its decided then. All food is Amerucan food and no food existed prior to modern USA.Jesus Christ... I wanted a fun thread but you are all just insufferable twats. OP /out/
>>19717689Reminder that potatoes, tomatoes, and chili peppers are all from the Americas, so if you are eating any dish with any of those items, you are eating American food. What people currently think of as European or Asian food is actually just what it became after trade with America was established.
>>19717900>>19720168>it's one of those "um ackshually nation means this and that and has restrictions that disqualifies all countries from being nations unless you give them a free pass for having ethnic diversity because they're in europe or some shit" autistsPlease leave. Nobody wants you outside of your containment board.>>19725015>expecting a fun thread>when fun threads either get pruned or flooded with nofunallowed reddit politispergs
>>19717689Buffalo Wings
>>19723797No it's not. Literally every country has some form of BBQ. Not all of it is unique but American BBQ sure is
>>19725015Why did you even start such a stupid thread knowing it would descend into utter idiocy, you galloping faggot?
>>19723797anon, you completely misunderstood whatever you heard. if anything it's native american in origin, but even then it's so different from how it was done when the spaniards met the natives. the caribbean natives used a wooden framework over an above ground fire to cook foods, while the natives of mexico and whatnot would dig holes in the ground and bury meats wrapped in leaves with hot coals to cookamerican barbecue, the kind where you dig a trench in the ground, fill it with hot coals from a nearby fire, elevate whole animal carcasses over the coals and slow cook for hours, basting with a mop sauce to soften up any tough meat and flavor it, developed in virginianow here comes the reason you may think it's african in origin, the laborious cooking was done by african slaves most of the time. barbecue was spread throughout the south in the 1800s as virginian cotton planters colonized the south and brought slaves with themthat hardly makes it african though. it's extremely american
tomatoes aren't even native to italy. 60% of the foods the world enjoys today come from the americas.
America invented every food.
>>19717689Chicken parmesan was invented by italian immigrants in new york
>>19717715>America is a melting pot.This phrase was invented by a Zionist Jewish man, Israel Zangwill. It is founded on hypocrisy and Jewish self-interest.
>>19717689The entirety of Tex mex and Cajun cuisines of course. Things like “Pacific Northwest” and “Californian” cuisines are too young to really be notable outside of their regions but they do exist. Midwest cuisine is a thing but it’s more comfort/guilty pleasure food than anything gastronomically impressive, makes sense when you’re either working 14 hr days on a farm or tolerating a godawful winter. And of course there’s New England with their lobster rolls, clam chowder and schmear bagels. Have you ever been to America?
>>19721778Caesar salad is technically Mexican to be fair. And the best Caesar salads have tortilla strips instead of croutons and a little dash of cilantro and lime.
>>19717689Cheese Burgers were invented in L.A., most fast food comes from Los Angeles.
Ice cream waffle cone, TV dinners, snow cones, lots of candies and snacks, lots of fast food and instant foods, generally foods that were invented after 1900 have a good chance of being either invented in the US or at least developed and perfected here. Oh, canning jars are a US invention.
>>19725882>Caesar salad is technically Mexican to be fair.No, it isn't. Caesar Cardini was an Italian immigrant who lived in San Diego and opened a restaurant in Tijuana during prohibition because he could serve alcohol there; when Prohibition ended he packed up his operation in Mexico and re-opened it in the US.>And the best Caesar salads have tortilla strips instead of croutons and a little dash of cilantro and lime.You disgust me.
>>19717726>>19720307Chile Con Carne was first described by the original conquistadors landing in modern mexico as they saw the natives eating a stew of meat and chiles. Recipes for this aren't in the historical record but only mentions of it. Where it really firdt enters the culinary landscape is during the Mexican-American war in Texas as it was an easy battle dish to prepare seeing as all they needed was dried meat and dried chiles to rehydrate in a stew. It was then popularized in the early 1900s in San Antonio by a group of Mexican women at the town markets known as "The Chili Queens". It was during the chili queen Era that the addition of tomatoes and spices got introduced to the dish before spreading to the rest of the United States and developing regional variations. Though Chili Con Carnes history is intimately tied with Mexico, Mexicans do not claim it as part of their culinary lexicon. The more accurate place to put it is in southwestern or texmex cuisine as it was developed and popularized through American/Mexican fusion.
>>19725903I see you also watch tasting history. And yes, a slightly acidic Caesar with fried tortilla strips is better. Croutons kind of suck in general. Also those restaurants who serve you a Caesar with the romaine all in one lettuce piece, like you’re supposed to eat it like nachos? What a joke
>>19725924It's kind of bizarre to me how few people before like 1900 ever thought to write down cooking recipes, some people did but not all that many and their recipes were almost always really vague. I don't know if I prefer that over today's dynamic of every dumb housewife writing a novel about how her tia Norma used to make the BEST carne adobo before getting to the fucking recipe
>>19725978They were written down quite a lot but mostly lost as with most written works jn history
>>19725978NO ONE should ever write down Filipino recipes
>>19726029Even in recipes from like the 1800s though they aren't very specific anything, quantities of ingregients are specified with words like "some" and "a bit"
>>19725953>I see you also watch tasting history.First of all, I can't stand that preening faggot. He does tiktok-tier ADAPTATIONS of historical dishes for modern kitchens that the average brainless internet addict will find approachable while presenting them as authentic to appeal to these mouth-breathers and he should be hanged for it. This nigger will smugly declare "the recipe says to cook it in X way, but I'm not going to do that because Y and I'm going to substitute for Z" shortly before tasting what he cooked and saying something to the effect of "wow guys, you can really taste the history". I'm not expecting him to mill his own wheat with a grindstones or to fly around to world to buy the exact right type of lentil because it's not imported into the US or whatever and for anything from the last hundred and twenty years or so a modern kitchen and ingredients are generally fine but the fact that he can't even be assed to make a fire to cook anything is absolutely inexcusable. And that's just the cooking. His historical takes are fucking painful to watch and are nothing more than some general context and quirky trivia. He doesn't go into detail of the history of the ingredients or the ACTUAL historical cooking methods unless there's said quirky trivia attached, to say nothing of chemistry. He's a festering wart on the ass of historical reenactment and every time I see him I pray for his sudden death.Second, I knew about the history of the caesar salad before youtube even existed because my great grandparents used to eat at his restaurants in San Diego.>And yes, a slightly acidic Caesar with fried tortilla strips is better. Croutons kind of suck in general. Also those restaurants who serve you a Caesar with the romaine all in one lettuce piece, like you’re supposed to eat it like nachos? What a jokeFascinating. Please face the wall now.
I'm forging some American food right now
>>19717900>America isn't young!You must be an American. Tell me more about America's long history, China wants to know.
>>19717689>blackberries are not really native to AmericaIf this is the metric we're going by, then virtually no dish anywhere is native to its cuisine.
>>19717762>denying the cultural influence of America around the worldEnvy
>>19726269The US is the oldest constitutional democracy in the world. Europe was an even bigger shitshow not too long ago.
>>19725015You're a faggot
>>19717689The very nature of American food is to take ingredients and techniques from other nations and just doing our own fucking thing with then. That's how you get 'spaghetti with meat sauce' when spaghetti is normally paired with oil or cream sauces in Italy.
>>19726355>ragu is an American creationKek. >>19726293San Marino is the worlds oldest constitutional democracy.
>>19726355FUCK YEAH!
>>19726355Americans just took shitty spaghetti nobody else eats because the shape is retarded and paired it with sauces usually eaten with other types of pasta.
>>19726385Don't give a shit about your tiny eurofag countries a fucking blip in Italy doesn't count
>>19724402>I have a degree in history from Redddit.com
European here, some things that I consider American food:>Barbecue yeah, every country in the world has some sort of smoked/grilled meat but American style is definitely its own thing>Philly cheesesteak seems pretty American to me unless again you think it doesn't count because you can get a cooked meat sandwich with cheese somewhere else>PastramiAmerican Pastrami is NOTHING like the European cured meats that inspired it, they're also very delicious but completely different. In general, if a country has its own version of food, it's still this country's food, even if they got it from somewhere else. Like, you can argue Ramen is Chinese but you'll just look dumb.
>>19726169>impotent screeching about his favorite e-celeb not making his food right>death threats over foodOh yeah, it's an American thread alright.
I'm surprised nobody has posted pulled pork/pork barbeque yet
You know it's okay to just say you love the United States of America, you don't have to keep making these envy threads like you're some kind of tsundere
>>19726619Scandinavian.
>>19720307Chilis come from the Americas dumb dumb
>>19723477>The hamburger is literally frikadelle on a rollExcept it's not. Hamburger patties are all beef. If you mix veal, eggs, or breadcrumbs in with the meat then it's not a hamburger.
>>19717689Probably NC barbecue. Two completely different cultures developed it independently from different source recipes because of what was available locally. One of the few uniquely American dishes
>>19723485Frankfurter sausages are 100% pork. Hot dogs are either all beef or a blend of beef, pork, and chicken.
>>19726737What about lamb?
>>19723797Wrong. If anything you can trace the origins of the word back to barbacoa, but that refers to a method of burying the meat in the ground along with embers from a fire. It has very little to do with American barbecue.
>>19725015You knew what was going to happen, shut the fuck up.
>>19717950>the same way French fries have nothing to do with FranceFuck's sake you're a fucking retard man
>>19726750The "french" in french fries refers to the cut. If you're doing it by hand then you're frenching the potatoes.
>>19726745You could make a case for a 100% ground lamb burger, but it's still an unusual variation. Like I've seen plenty of restaurants offering a lamb burger, but if I ordered a burger and got one that was lamb without any indication that's what it was I'd be pretty confused.
>>19726762>frenching the potatoes.
The entire lexicon of Cajun and creole food.
Nobody bothers to answer the question, that tells you everything you need to know about the supposed "american" food
Nobody should care where a food was technically first created. Food is now a culture.Arguing that American food is actually <insert another nation here> food because it was possibly technically there first is like arguing that Americans aren't American because they were British / German / Italian / Irish / etc. first. It's a self defeating argument.What makes a food's owner is who develops and proliferates it, both in the past and the present. But ownership is also not boolean. American Chinese food ultimately has its roots in Chinese culture, but it is undoubtedly still an "American" food. Pizza proliferated in both America and Italy. Americans own their Pizza, Italians own their Pizza. Koreans own their pizza. Fuck Brazilians. Also, some foods, firmly established as not being American, can have an American version. Take American Goulash as an example.Arguing over who owns "pizza", or in other words what type of pizza the word "pizza" defaults to, is an exercise in stupidity. Again, food is a culture. In America, "pizza" defaults to American pizza. In Italy, "pizza" defaults to Italian pizza. The default meaning of the term depends on the contextual culture whence the term is used.In previous centuries these delineations were easy to see and understand because travel took much longer, and transportation of ingredients was logistically severely limited. Not to mention places of discussion always took place in physical locations, automatically setting the cultural context.But what about an international context? If a food's ownership is arguable, perhaps hamburger as an example? While you can argue that the hamburger is not owned solely by Americans, you cannot claim that hamburgers are not American. Because American culture recognizes the hamburger as American. Because other cultures think of the hamburger as American. Even in an international context, it's hard to support the argument that American culture does not have majority ownership.
>>19723797The many regional variants, including the world-famous KC-style sweet ketchup-molasses sauce, the Carolina spicy mustard sauce, Texas dry-rub, Michigan cherry BBQ, or Alabama lemon-mayonnaise-black pepper "baptized" smoked chicken, are all uniquely American inventions. Everywhere you go in the US you'll find different native cuisines. In western Kentucky you'll find the only few towns known for slow-smoked mutton. California has tri-tip. In Illinois you'll find beef ribs, or a thin, sour cumin-based sauce poured on simple dry-smoked pulled pork. To say American BBQ isn't unique is either ignorant or disingenuous. >>19721778Also: Pumpkin pieAll Cajun food (boudin, gumbo, crawfish boil, etc.)SnickerdoodlesFluffernuttersSweet gelatin dessertBanana pudding (w/ nilla wafers) The potato chip (crisp) in Sarasota, NYCalifornia PizzaCalifornia roll (sushi) Tri-bean saladCreamy coleslawCaesar salad (no, not mexican)New England clam chowderBoston baked beans (with molasses)Hazy IPA (not my favorite)Concord grape juice/jellyRoot Beer/SarsparillaAnd don't even get me started about the hundred or so regional hot dog styles, or we'll be here all day.
>>19717833post your hook nose
>>19726437How does that refute my point? We took their ingredients and did our own thing with it.
>>19721586I'm American and hate these kinds of threads because nobody ever has any clue what they're talking about. You are one of those people. I think that America has more variety and overall better pizza than anywhere else in the world, but most countries copy the Italian model, with simple, single serving pizzas eaten with a knife and fork.
>>19725015>posts the lowest quality, unoriginal, guaranteed replies bait thread>i-i just wanted a fun thread, guise...what's with all the shit flinging??Also, nobody gives a shit if the OP sticks around for a thread like this. It might have well been posted by a bot.
>>19717689there was no potatos or tomatos before america so anything with that stuff
>>19726169Holy fuck can you seethe any harder
>>19720261no the combination of fish and chips are of English origin. Fried fish is of sephardic Jewish origin.
>>19717689Ceaser Salad
>>19717900yeah tacos are TOTALLY American just like the burrito and the tortilla itself.
>>19728167invented in Tijuana
>>19728920by an American
>>19717689Thanksgiving fare is a mix of European farmer food (mostly root vegetables), and Native American food (turkey, corn, pumpkin, etc). Quite healthy desu.
>>19717689Crab Rangoon is ironically an entirely American invention designed as knock-off Asian food.
the fast food style gyros originated in Chicago
>>19717693The best way to practice is to do it, so why insult people for having English as a second language?
>>19729174THANK YOU BASED CHICAGO
>>19725978the Spanish destroyed a lot of the literature they came across because they wanted to present their way of life and beliefs as the only possibility with no confliction
>>19729218Bullshit. The Spanish had entire encyclopedias detailing native culture and taught the Indios how to write so that they could record their traditions.
>>19729218The natives had no written language
The Muffuletta: Objectively the best sandwich; Invented in Louisiana.
>>19727232>but most countries copy the Italian modelAre those countries on the planet with us right now? The only single serving pizzas I've seen were made with mayonnaise instead of tomato sauce.
>>19717689I made it a fundamental promise to myself that I'd never eat any food that had turd in the name.
>>19727232>most countries copy the Italian modelHow delusional do you have to be to legitimately think this
>>19729336based
Posting here because I want to read the thread but it's too late don't want to forget it. Also Jew york bagels are probably an american invented food.
>>19717689General Tso's Chicken.
>>19729178because every ESL retard on this site is obsessed with the US and can't post about anything else
>>19717689What would you call it if you stuffed a ham with a salmon and put the ham inside a huge turkey?
>>19729643People bitching about muh esl are newfag zoomers and non americans only think about you fags due to your constant subversion and sabotaging of our countries. Death to America, death to Israel.
The humble garbage plate
>>19724402All that bullshit and not a single mention of the biggest suspects, I wonder who could be behind this post.
Bbc
>>19722059i think he meant if you're not retarded
>>19730119Way to prove his point retard
>>19729336people snack on processed meat and cheese, weve evolved,
>>19732180What does that honestly have to do with the best sandwich on the face of the plant earth. If you are going to come at me you better come with some force.
europeans just eat fish and peas
>>19717895tasty tasty
>>19729178Pointing out that you’re ESL isn’t an insult, it just means that your grammar is noticeably poor
>>19723477>m.
>>19730460Where do I find these?
>>19717689The hamburger was forged here, still got the OG place that started it all here. Also bison. If you consider all of the Americas, there is a ton of specialty & local food from the central and southern Americas. Chilis, chocolate, etc. Then you have things like gator and snake. Not super common, but more of a southern thing. Crawdads are an American thing too, never heard about the frenchies doing a crawdad boil. BBQ is also an American thing, from brisket to pulled pork.
>>19729178Because having to deal with you fucktards directly makes my internet experience worse Everything was better when the web wasnt so worldwide
Thirdies worship kfc. I do too. Not kfc in particular because it's greasy wet shit now but i worship fried chicken and bourbon. Thank you kentucky and texas for making me a fat alchoholic fuck.
>>19729178Imagine if i posted on a french forum in barely legible French talking about how rerarded everybody from France is
>>19725924>Though Chili Con Carnes history is intimately tied with Mexico, Mexicans do not claim it as part of their culinary lexicon.This is one of the most interesting parts to me. I think it's primarily due to the seethe they have over texas (for some reason lmao)
>>19724402You should learn history better. Depending on the region of the US, even prior to the revolution there were a lot of other people here, not just wasps.
>>19726818Eastern NC on pulled pork or brisket. KC on Ribs and Memphis on chicken
>>19723797BBQ is like farming it's kind of something all cultures to a certain extent have practiced just in different ways, trying to pin it to just one is retarded.
>>19728966By an italian, next.
>>19735221who immigrated to America.Also the clientele of the restaurant were Americans because of prohibition.So if the food was invented for Americans, I think it's American food regardless of the race of the creator.
>>19735228Nigger you didn't invent pizza, you didn't invent that salad either. American has invented a lot but not those two things. If him moving to Mexico didn't magically make him mexican then he didn't become American either, a dog born in a stable is not a horse.
>>19735231he didn't move to Mexico. He opened a restaurant in Mexico so Americans could cross the border and drink booze
>>19735237And according to your logic he magically went from being an italian immigrant to a Mexican.
>>19735243He wasn't a citizen of Mexico dummy
>>19729454>>19729464I've had pizza all across Western and Eastern Europe, Russia, SE Asia, and even a couple places in South-East Africa. They all predominantly use the Italian model rather than the American. Go outside some time.
>>19730205kek this is the hardest cope I've ever seen
>>19725383FUUUUUuuuuuuThe original of that image is my desktop wallpaper
>>19717689>the hot dog and hamburger are both from Germany>the Fish and Chips is from Norway/NW Europe
>>19726818>In western Kentucky you'll find the only few towns known for slow-smoked muttonBBQ mutton with a vinegary sauce will always be my favorite.
>>19723613he did say better not healthier
>>19718624Retard
Only an American is dumb enough to believe that putting meat on bread was invented only ~300 years ago
>>19737122Only a european is dumb enough to think the US never popularized any kind of food
>>19737135Deep fried butter isn't food
>>19737137Case in point
>>19737140Concession accepted
>>19737144Try again bud
>>19737167Ok?Concession acceptedDid it work this time?
>>19737179No
>>19737189Must be an issue on your end then
>>19737190I don't think so
>>19737201You should get it looked at
>>19737210Nah
>>19737220Oh well, I'll toss you one more. Hopefully this one gets through. Otherwise you'll just have to live with it being busted.Concession accepted
>>19737228There was no concession though
>>19737234Yours is busted so you can't see it, clear as a day to the rest of us
>>19737237Delusional
>>19737273Get it fixed and you'll see it too
>>19720261>>19721196The Kentucky Hot Brownhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMCPHFTf5YU
>>19717715>>19717900no and it was created by you know who
>>19717689Hamburgers actually originated in America
>>19723375>beans
