Thread for discussing coffee.Preferably coffee from brasil... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz4yrEL9UZ8Last thread: >>19691296
>>19715963Previously >>19702216
You couldn't fuck this up any harder. Just stop.If you're new or confused, start here: https://pastebin.com/UEzwuyLzIf you're old and confused, remember when this general was good?
What’s the cheapest decent setup to make real espresso? I bought my parents one of those nespresso machines a couple months ago, and I wanna know if 500 or so backs would be better spent on that and some pods or some used espresso equipment
>>19716199Flair+hand grinderhttps://youtu.be/-FP9Tnl3OFQ
>>19716189can you make an ACTUAL new goffee time general thread with proper formatting?i cant stand even being in this krangled ass thread.
>>19716282Went to make it, looked up the old OP, refreshed because I had a feeling the tard beat me and I was right. Sorry pal.
>>19716293i mean jesus fuck just look at the top of this thread.it cant be much worse than that.you should just make new threads too earlybetter to be early and be called a fag than be late and be stuck in actual hell.
>>19716317I tried to shut this shit down back in april. Its beyond saving now.
>>19716405well...did you have a good goffee today :3
>>19716464Had a very nice origami cup of natty Idido Desalegn Hijo earlier. Tasted like blueberry+stonefruit jam.
>>19716199If you've got a budget of $500 you can get a breville bambino and an espresso capable handgrinder. Hell since the bambino is apparently under $300 on burger amazon you could get it and a high quality handgrinder or mid quality electric grinder
Latest Quan's Kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5nGW4Je_I0
For those with manual/lever machines, what do you use for milk drinks?
>>19716897Your mom's semen
>>19716901my mom is semen?
new goff
>>19716189Thanks fren
( ) ( ) ) ) ( ) ( ( ( ) ( ) ) _____________ <_____________> ___ | |/ _ \ | | | | | |_| | ___| |\___// \___________/ \\_____________________/hey everyone just made a cuppa*siiiiip*ahh
>>19717126Nice, hows it taste? You like it?
>>19717224fuck the mug broke
>>19717225very nice! i was afraid it would be similar to the kenya aa but its not. pear and grape upfront followed by honey and then a hint of sugar.
>make coffee>beans say it tastes like dried fruit, smoky, chocolatey, pineapple, nutty, etc etc etc>drink it>tastes like coffeeWhy do they lie?
>>19717297>tastes like coffeebet you think all wine tastes like wine.expand your palate anon.also>reading the tasting notes EVERngmi
>>19716868YOU TRICK ME YOU FUCK
Is the quality/freshness of coffee really that important for cold brew?
>>19717562Not really. Cold brew is always going to have a stale oxidized funk from the long brew time.
>>19717586skill issue
>lookmomIposteditagain.jpg
>>19717601if its true i will post it.
>>19717611Are you making cold brew in a vacuum?
>>19717474wdym?
>making iced cobbe with my hario v2>fuck up and forget to open the drip valve thing for the first 30s>fuck up and forget to put ice in the pot beforehand>somehow tastes better than how I normally make itexplain
>caffeine withdrawalDidn't think it would happen to me
>>19717772>didn't drink covefe for a week and a half to make sure I didn't get addictedngmi if you aren't taking breaks, anon
>>19717750Welcome to hybrid immersion brewing. Long blooms are great huh?
Bros, I love her so much.
>>19717834Does it actually make better moka than the steel Bialetti models? Or is the higher cost just for Italian manufacturing, design, and materials?
>>19717841100% of them that have been posted in this thread have shipped with a broken valve that needed RMA and repair.
>>19717841Stainless steel doesn't absorb odors from, say, detergents and certain coffee aromas, so you don't need to season it and you can liberally switch between different coffee while immediately tasting the difference rather than having a "break in" period like it happens with aluminium.Apart from this and other pros, the taste imho is better and more concentrated, it's not a big difference though but it's nice.Fit and finish is perfect, the pot is heavy and thick as fuck, so you pay also for the materials and design: it will last forever.
>>19717855Ok I misread your question, didn't see "stainless" Bialetti.I never had a coffee from a stainless Bialetti moka, however I can 100% say that the difference lays in materials and fit/finish, as the Bialetti surely is thinner and lighter, it also has plastic bits.Probably the coffee would be very similar but then again the only way to find out is to make a direct comparison because even high level moka pots such as the Giannina and Alessi 9090 are said to make coffee with some differences, for example the one from the Giannina is more concentrated.
>>19717471NTA but unless I had a whole row of coffees and wines to taste right after another, I couldn't tell the difference very well either. If I were to have a cup one day, and a cup of something else the day after it would be tough to taste the difference, unless it was something extremely different like light and dark roasts.
>>19717864I know the Alessi is higher cost simply because of the design and doesn't actually produce anything better than the steel Bialetti models. I was just wondering if the same is true for the Giannina. How much dry coffee fits in the basket of your Giannina?
>>19717917IIRC 11-12 grams with the reducer on 1 cup position and 21 grams on the 3 cups position.If you wait, I'll measure and reply later when I'm making cold brew before going to sleep.
>>19717924Ps. the Giannina and Alessi 9090 have the same quality and fit/finish, the price is basically the same.Online you can find the original Giannina model called "Tradizione" which has the older handle and other different details, that's even cheaper at circa 69€, and the current model (mine) which is called "Restyling" for 89€ both in the 3/1 cups version.At the physical shop, where I bought mine, I paid 110€ and the Alessi goes for 130€ circa.If you want to spend slightly more than the Bialetti stainless, look at this one:https://www.amazon.it/Giannini-6611-GIANNINI-Caffettiera-Italiana/dp/B08H3WT79VIt's made in Italy by Giannini.
>>19717938Round bottom pots seem like a bad idea, much harder to unscrew while hot.
>>19717995Then buy the Giannina Tradizione or Restyling models, they don't have this problem because they use the handle as a closure mechanism.Mind that for a couple of months it will be very hard, then with time it will become softer and easy to close them.
Kino kino kino (moka pot users are scum) kino kino kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9KAUgOuqws
piston bros, today we flourish, less oversightshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJc42z4Gpdg
Tomorrow I'm out of town for an appointment.There's a roaster + coffee bar on the road, let's see if I have time to stop for a goffee and some beans.
>>19718041Ah a fellow Ass man. I almost posted his last video but I figured discussion would be sparse.https://youtu.be/AfYfcnX6bV8
>>19718088i posted the paper and was ignored >>19715319>The goal of this study was to investigate how key brewing vari-ables drive consumer preference for a single black coffee roasted ata single level, and we found that TDS had the largest effect of thethree tested variables. Extraction yield played a secondary role inconsumer preferences, with the differences in liking based on PEmore apparent at higher TDS values. BT had the weakest impact ofthe three investigated variables as long as other brewing variableswere adjusted to achieve similar extraction profiles across differentwater temperatures.>Our results suggest that the Coffee Brewing Control Chart’s“ideal” coffee should be reconsidered to reflect consumer pref-erence segmentation. Indeed, we uncovered two preference seg-ments in this study, each with different sensory drivers of liking,and whose liking related to TDS and PE with different responsesurfaces
>>19718080there is always time for a goffee and beans disgovery stop
>>19718102I seent it don't worry frendo. It was immediately drowned out by the jxprokatard not knowing what he's talking about.>some people have shit taste and we can prove it scientificallyWe just need to wall off that top right corner.
>>19718088>>19718102>neophilic goffee drinkerliterally me
>sorry, friend. light roasts are bright and fruity, but they make my tummy hurt. I'll take a MEDIUM roast instead.
>>19717297To sell more coffee..maybe you'll taste something like apple or pear or white grape with the fruity ones..then spice and chocolate with the dark ones that's about it..
>>19717722>Latest Quan's >click video>no quanthats called a trick anon.
Redpill me on light roasts with moka pot
>>19717884i feel like you have the wrong approachyou are not looking for distinct differences you are looking for the notes IN just this coffee.it should be easy if you have an advanced palate and or great coffee beans.like i know what burnt industrial carpet smells (and therefore tastes) like. so when i drink a dark roast there is a good chance i am going to smell/taste THAT, so instead of me saying "yep tastes like dark roast" or "yep tastes burnt" im going to describe EXACTLY what i am tasting and or smelling.if you have a shit palate then yeh its like a different language, you cant see it, you cant read it, say it, understand it or even think it.so yeh, tastes like goffee to you i guess.
>>19718102>i posted the paper and was ignoredi dont click links.
>>19718379based. that's how you dodge the CIA N-WORDS
>friend is visiting and stays over at my place for a few days>drinks coffee literally all day long>starts morning with two mugs of coffee>constantly drinks coffee during the day>constantly wants to stop at cafes when we go hang out in the city to drink more coffee>drinks more coffee in the evening>drinks a mug literally 5 minutes before going to sleepI have no fucking clue how she's not dead yet, this was basically every day.
>>19718453superior genetics
>>19717924Seems to be more than the equivalent 3 cup Bialetti (14g – 18g depending on beans and grind). Do you know if it's compatible with E&B Lab competition filter?
>>19718453did he make his own brews or did you graciously accomodate him
>>19718453I'm basically the same, why would I be dead? The only difference I can see there is that I only drink decaf after 9 PM.
>>19718910>he>him
>>19718933ohwhatever, shei guess that answers my question though
>>19718745Nope, sadly the Giannina can’t fit the E&B filter.
Think I got it, except for real this time.
>>19719199anon...
>>19719199>muddy, lumpy bedBetter grinder and technique are necessary. I give you a 2/10; it would not have been possible to do a worse job even if you had just dumped all the water in at once and let it sift through
>>19719237>>19719238At least you're not calling it bait this time
>>19719242if i see CHUNKS of coffee bean in your grounds 1 more time i swear to god anon.I WILL... be disappointed and give you words of encouragement :)you have to BE the hoff>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oB1oDrDkHMlook at his bed at 5:30.
>>19719252My concern with that video (as opposed to his older V60 one that I'm trying to follow) is that I'm not doing one cup, I'm going for about 700ml of coffee every time I brew. Is it still applicable?
>>19719044Thanks. That is unfortunate. Guess I'll try my luck with the Bialetti Venus 6 cup model. The gasket measurements are only 1mm off the 6 cup Moka Express so it should fit.
>>19719199how did it taste
>>19719277Frustrating, mainlyIt's very close to being really good but it's not quite there.
>>19719199Looking great anon!
>>19717783Just had a slight headache for a day. Not the end of the world.
>>19719263yesthe technique is a bit different but your bed should still look like that.he did a follow up video if you want to check that out.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5WQ1sZzW4obonus chemex kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikt-X5x7yocbonus bonus asmr kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbXbcQEFPOU
>>19717783Caffeine addiction is a meme. It's real, but a complete pushover.
got the new standartthey gave me bloody 6 month old beansi know its free but come on.they are fermented so maybe them being in the bag all this time made them even better.(copium)also the cover of this issue is worse than the last one.
>>19719421That idido I had yesterday was about 4 months off roast. You'll be fine. If the beans aren't oily and aren't constantly exposed to fresh oxygen you're gucci.
>>19719508havent opened the bag yet.its about 3pm so i might have a coffee as the sun goes down in a couple more hours.66.73g bag. nice packaging.colombian washed, long fermented.(i think)
Made some cold brew coffee overnight, tasted today, its nice, a bit stronger but feels unusual since cold
>>19719525>>19719508update.it was roasted on 14/8/23 so 1 month agothe outer envelope had a misprint which was 14/3/23 but the inner sealed bag had the correct roast datestill longer than i prefer and there was noticeably less aroama and crema.havent tasted it yet, it is too hot to drink at the typing of this message.(its goffee time)
>>19719767All those words, still haven't said who the fucking roaster is.>less cremaGood. Crema is the enemy of good coffee. You should know this by now. Carbon dioxide and suspended fines do not taste as good as the rest of your brew.
>>19719767https://www.belllane.ie/products/alfredo-eunilver-castano-colombia-250gthis is the sample i goti love fermented coffee(just bought another $100 worth last night) so its a shame these beans are (not as old but still) so old, would have loved to have tried them 1 week post roast.first taste. black. weak canned vegetable minestrone(Heinz of course)second taste, a little premium panela. rose water, generic hard candy, refreshing. very pleasant.third taste. cortado, wow, very nice. smooth, calm, very light in the mouth, papery, like licking the wrapping of a candy before eating the candy. very tea like, yeh heavy tea notes.i will make it a little differently tomorrow(or later today if i have another coffee)yeh i would recommend this coffee, i would pay for a full bag for sure. great summer coffee, either black with a bit of sugar or made into your milk drink of choicei personally wouldn't buy this for drinking straight black ymmv.>>19719777sorry babe
>>19715963I hate the handle on this thing so much for some reason and wish I got another model. Is there a way I can somehow replace it?
>>19719793yeh you can just rip that off and i think there should be a metal prong that the plastic is mounted to, can probably just weld your own handle on iti dont know why, i guess its just that classic, premium italian engineering that makes every moka have the absolute most worthless handle known to mankind.
>>19719796I have no idea how to weld but thanks for the tips anyways. I wonder if I can just get a similar leather sleeve thing they use on some kettles like pic rel and use that to hold it instead. Might work but sadly it would hide the logo and might make it look like some rip off Moka pot or something.>>19719796>the absolute most worthless handle known to mankind.This one in particular takes the cake.
>>19719786Good shit, I'll put that grower on my shortlist for greens. Love floral columbians. Had a little of my honey gesha earlier.
>>19718910I made coffee for her a few times, but for the most part she drank instant while at home.
>>19719833>instant
Could you make better coffee than your local cafe?
>>19720107I can't do latte art but in terms of taste I'm better.
>>19720107I can make it CHEAPER but the cafe still taste nicer
>>19720107yes, even at my worst i can beat them with my eyes closed.
>>19720111>but the cafe still taste nicerhow is that even possible?
>>1971596333 and today was the first time I ever ordered a coffee in a cafe. Always felt like I wasn't good enough. I ordered a coffe with 2 sugars and gave him this long story about how I normally drink tea I make at home. I believe I got a cuppacino. Was good but a little bit bitter.
ITS UP!>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzVXxccIW7I
All these light to medium roast beans have me craving a change and now I wanna try some dark roast on my V60. Any suggestions on beans? I heard the osmotic flow technique works nicely so I’ll try that.
>>19720107Better latte art? No. Better tasting milk drinks? Yeah a little. Better tasting bare espresso? Absolutely.
>>19720123Fuck off, chud!
>>19720152Illy
>>19720123The biggest psued coffeetube has to offer.
When I was poor I would just boil coffee grounds in a pot of water and drink that. Tasted like shit.
>>19721089hes cringe kinohes exactly what the coffeetube community needs.more thorough than most of them when it comes to product reviews.
>>19721124The guy makes wild jumps in logic while stock footage plays in the background. He's like Robert Aloe but even Aloe changed after Quan brought him on a livestream and he got cyber bullied.
consoooom
>>19721095Grind it finder and you've got turkish
Holy shit we've got some double kino here + the one and only Sheldon Wong. Picopresso gang is eating good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_Dy5fTnoogFor everyone else, yet another "how do I (buy) coffee" vid.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9F3x7hU5O8
>>19721302
>>19718453Fast metabolizer of caffeine.
>>19719833>instantHoly kek.
>>19719199Nice grind size variance anon. Kek.
I'm not an expert on coffee but why does it feel like the slider went towards dark with all coffee the past 10+ years? Light is medium at best, medium is medium dark, dark is... dark. Is there anywhere I can get light roast that's actually light? Milk chocolate colored or so?
>>19721671The lightest roast I've had from any roasterhttps://www.swroasting.coffee/product/colombia-huila-aguazul-pink-bourbon/4
>>19721671Darker roasts are more soluable and easier to extract with shittier equipment. By roasting med+ and calling it light all the normies get to larp that they drink the superior light roast.>is there anywhere I can get light roast that's actually light?Apollon's gold, sey, wendleboe, april, hydrangae, proud mary, flower child, roguewave, la cabra, moodtrap, or just roast your own.https://www.sweetmarias.com/popper.html
>>19721671If you're buying grocery store stuff it's all going to be medium at the darkest. Specialty roasters do light roasts.
>>19721696>>19721717>>19721754Thanks anons!>If you're buying grocery store stuffShould I avoid places like amazon as well?
>>19721805Yes
>>19721717>Apollon's gold, sey, wendleboe, april, hydrangae, proud mary, flower child, roguewave, la cabra, moodtrapAt some of these prices, you might as well just buy actual Kona or some shit. Jeez.
>>19721805>Should I avoid places like amazon as well?Kinda. Some roasters (Onyx, Partners Coffee) sell via third party so you shouldn't have an issue with roast dates, but you will have a smaller selection compared to their site's offerings.
>>19721754To be fair some grocery stores (higher end varieties like whole foods, etc.) carry brands from bigger name specialty roasters, you just have to check that the bag's roast date was recent. Online shipping or local roaster is the best though.
>16 gr beenz in>80 gr water>put everything in a Nutella glass, put lid on and stir >wait 12 hours>pour everything into an Aeropress with metal filter (Prismo) >separate the grounds from the goffee >pour into your preferred mug and top with fridge cold whole milk Enjoy
>>19719199Slightly finer grind and tried to copy Hoffman's 1-cup ratios as best as I could. 30g coffee, 500ml water.
>>19722060Nope, never mind, that's horrifically bitter.
>>19722060Stop posting pictures of shit you motherfucking pajeet
>>19721141>wild jumps in logicsuch as?also the stock footage and royalty free music is comfy as hell.i dont know what you would actually prefer?him sitting in his small studio with the camera pointed at his fat old face while he talks? why?like if he has something to show he shows it, if not then stock video it is because thats better than a black screen no?anyway this Mahlkonig EK43 Project looks kino.
>>19721302"es works"i thought it was pronounced sworks?
>>19722028buddy, you can just put g for grams.
>>19722097No, you're going to suffer with me with every failure and struggle.15g, 250ml, exact same technique. Notch 14 on an Encore.Still has room for improvement, but it's much better. Actual flavor this time. Seems like it could do to be just a little bit coarser, but only a little bit.
>>19722131poopa :)
>>19722103>hemro group won't answer my emails so they are babies afraid of my reviewHe's the epitome of a home-barista forum dipshit.
>>19722152>t. corpo bootlicker
>>19722152>>19722174Just watched this. Pretty kino ngl desuhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mh8QbOpcd8
you know what moka stands for, right? "fix it again, tony"
>>19722131How are you getting such a coarse ground with a literal pile of fines every time? This seems impossible for a halfway decent grinder...
>>19722236You consider that coarse? I've got it calibrated as fine as it can go, and I was under the impression that the muddy texture could only really show up in too-fine grounds.
>>19722236i think he has an old encore.
>>19722289I got it back in 2021 or so.
>>19722239yes i can still see chunks as if the beans have been chipped.you are getting mud because your grinder has bad consistency, aka fines.so on one hand you have uneven chucks(which tbf have gotten smaller) and you also are getting finer particles slipping through as well.think about how sediment works irl.you often have multiple stages of different sized rocks and then gravel then sand or similar sized soil then very fine silt.>>19722295ok :)>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gm6UfD9qSc4:39, you can see majority of your grind on the left and the fines in the middle and right.the more expensive a grinder gets(USUALLY) the less fines it will makenot telling you to go out and buy a new grinder at allsimply explaining how things workps, you are making good progress :) hope you had a good day.
>>19722318So what's the move here? If my grinder's imperfect but not really in my power to fix from what I can tell, am I just bottlenecked by it? I don't need perfect coffee by any means, but if there's something I can do to resolve the issue that'd be good. I plan on doing espresso soon too, and while I know I can get fine enough with the encore the inconsistency might be a problem.
>>19722352i mean... i supposed you could sift evey grind for 10 minutes.
>>19722361I'm actually not opposed to doing that if only for the hell of it. I'll look into sifting.Also, thank you for the compliment anon, my day was good and I hope yours was too.
>>19720122The Donut King was satisfied with your order
>>19722352Anon, depending on what you grind for, yourself or an army, a hand grinder can be a perfect answer to getting espresso worthy grinds. If you're a cheapskate or just don't want to invest a lot into a new method, javapresse is a decent option. You get what you pay for, but it's worth it's weight. You'll get a very simple tool with problems more expensive grinders don't have, but it has a good burr and it holds up to abuse. Consult the geniuses here or elsewhere on an expensive choice, but success there really depends though on what you want to do with it, and whether or not you consider 200-300 to be a good price.
>>19722352Yeah I think if the grinder is broken, your only option for espresso is to sift (since it can produce fine grinds). However for pourover, the variation in grind size will reduce your margin of balanced flavors (basically it will be more likely to go from overly bitter to overly acidic). I think even a cheap hand grinder (less than $100) can provide you with much higher grind consistency for your pourovers. For example I find it easy to dial in my coffee with my $85 Q2, and the grinds are very consistent. The reason I mention this is because I suspect most sifters fine enough for espresso cost over $100 (kruve is near $200) and repair will probably cost at least $100 as well.
>>19722476And to be clear I'm fairly sure you can spend just a bit more than that for a decent to high tier espresso grade hand grinder as well.
>>19722451>>19722476I do drink a lot of coffee but if I'm going for smaller batches with higher precision for espresso (as opposed to the 30-45g for casual pourover) then I do think a hand grinder might not be a terrible idea. I had a Timemore once but it never felt quite right and also took a century to grind finer stuff so I sold it before getting my Encore.I don't really want to blow $200 on a handgrinder when at that point I could probably get a better automatic grinder than my Encore, but I'm certainly open to suggestions below that. I've also heard that espresso generally favors grinders that don't have a clicking dial, but I'm not sure as to the truth of that.
>>19722487Afaik the stepless style grinder gives you much more precision at the fine grind settings (since you in theory can dial in to individual microns, rather than it jumping between a given interval). Attached is the /ctg/ chart for handgrinders, and from what I've heard, M47 and Jmax are of similarly high quality for espresso with extremely fine adjustment (basically next best thing to stepless afaik). I went ahead and checked prices and Kinu M47 went up a couple dollars to $219 still a quite good price I believe, and the Jmax is currently on sale for $159, so that seems like a pretty good deal given your indicated price point. I believe you'd have to spend a lot more if you wanted to get an automatic of comparable consistency, but I frankly haven't researched those so I'll defer to other anons on that front.
>>19722560Well damn, that sale on the Jmax is pretty serendipitous. If I have any reservations at all it's that it's still technically Chinese but a Taiwanese company manufacturing in China feels like it's probably better than an outright Chinese company (Timemore).Think I'm going to go ahead and spring for the Jmax. Really appreciate it.
>>19715963I want to mix this together with coffee. Good idea?
I'm almost certain that Encore has either a broken or missing part
>>19722624*That's easily and cheaply replaceable
>>19722624Not missing, I disassembled the thing Sunday to recalibrate it. Broken, maybe but I don't think so. The gasket is an unsteady pain in the ass but from every video I've seen the gasket is an unsteady pain in the ass on all of them.
>>19722624yeh idk i looked at a bunch of videos and all of them could do v60 no problemsometimes thats life.
I'm glad my chart helps another anon :)
>>19722688but what if he needs a vertical crank?honestly i think my rok can produce a better grind for filter with less fines than that guys encore.(disclaimer do NOT buy a rok unless you are 38 layers deep in moka pot schizophrenia)
>>19722639What guide or video did you follow? Baratza has a video on their YouTube channel breaking down every part of an Encore.
>>19722722https://youtu.be/tvPmA2laBzM?feature=shared
>>19722727>audio is only one sidejesus
>>19722711I hope you get a chance to use a decent hand grinder one of these days and realize the error of yours ways.
>>19722595Great idea! For best results use a concentrated coffee beverage like espresso, moka pot, or high dose instant.
>>19722741>love me rok>love me natural process medium roast burundi>love me E&B Lab 6 cup moka pot with competition filter>love me bespoke ceramic cup i use for my grounds catcher>love me loveramics clear twisted glass cups>love me Loveramics x Tens Hundreds Thousands dosing tray>love me rdtsimple asroaster next month(probably)had a couple big spending months(thats just life, sometimes ya just gotta do what ya gotta do) but still on track financially.even if i hate roasting if i can get any amount of freedom from these worthless overpriced roasters it will be worth it.new grinder is at least 1 year after roaster.(CRAIG LYN MAKE A NEW VERSION PLEASE!) i just feel like they are due for a new 2023/2024 revision.
>>19722727Is this as far as you've gone? Have you removed the motor?
>>19722761An afternoon with my kinu would turn your life upside down.
>>19722775I haven't gone any further than that, no. I'm not sure if I have the expertise to repair any issues with the motor, if they exist.
>>19722806a dinner date with my rok would make for a great night <3
>>19722858Maybe if it were a wafo x pietro instead.
>>19722944YOOO WHAT IS THAT!?
>>19722965Why its only the finest vertically cranked hand operated benchtop mounted flat burr grinder in existence.https://www.instagram.com/p/CxHXklhBHVI/
>>19723005>not a real product
>>19720113>>19720117I need better equipment...
>>19723144usually its better beans not better equipment
Have you guys tried singaporean-styled coffee? It's very different to italian espresso.
>>19723238>have you guys tried pizza? its very different than lasagna
>>19723238Idk what this is but the coffee at my local HK-style café is vile.
>>19723238I haven't. How does it differ?
>It's very different to italian espresso
>>19723461you couldn't pay me to drink that.
>>19723467cluster 1 coffee drinker i see
>>19723467I'd drink that cup of slop long before I touch a moka.
Quan blessed us with another kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUnmZv0PWhQ
what's the cheapest hand grinder that's worth buying, hario slim any good?
>>19723852Not at all. Start here. >>19722560If you're absolutely strapped for cash the kin k1 can be had for like $36 with the amazon coupon., otherwise look at spending just a bit more. It'll be worth it.
>>19722818If you're able to calibrate then the rest shouldn't be that difficult. I'd recommend inspecting the motor/burr/etc before throwing money at another grinder.
when people use brew time for pour over as a metric for grind size, do they include the time waiting for the bloom in the total?
>>19722560>>19723869are the colors supposed to be a ranking system? doesnt seem to say what it indicates
>>19722487>(as opposed to the 30-45g for casual pourover)You do 30-45 g for one cup pourover?
>>19724117Subjective opinion on "value"/feature set. The $99 Q2 used to be the default budget recommendation, now you can get a kinu knockoff for $88 with the k4 or the k6 for $99 which is just a cheaper K-max/bigger "better" q2. If you have to pay full price for the k6, its a bit worse value and you might want to look at snagging something else. If you have to pay full price for the k4, its still a better value than the Jx. Same burrs, smaller step size, better external adjustment, and cheaper. I haven't updated the prices in a few months but just looking at amazon the Jmax is on sale for $160 right now. Pretty fucking good price for 1zpresso's flagship espresso grinder.
>>19724117Yes, the more green the grinder is the better it is for its relative price bracket. You can compare the features at the similar price points, generally the greener they are the better one or more features such as burr set, micron interval, grind speed, construction, where they're built, etc. For example, Kingrinder K4 slightly edges out the 1zpresso Q2 because it is usually cheaper at msrp while having comparable performance and build and larger bean capacity. In cases like that determining factors are often up to your preference. The Q2 has burrs that lend to profiles close to commandante, and it's very compact andportable, ,so if the idea of that appeals to you it may in fact be worth the slightly higher price point compared to the K4. Then if you compare it to K6, the K6 beats the K4 out and Q2 by dint of it having features like external adjustment 16um intervals, and being espresso capable at a cheap price point. Typically, the grinders improve in performance at higher price, which is why they're ranked relative to price bracket, as grinders like the M47, Jmax, Kmax, and Commandante have solid reputations for capacity, higher consistency, espresso capability, as long as they're within your budget. Hope that helps.
brudi...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quy-Lyvz8pg
I wanna join the dark side... Any suggestions on what's a good dark roast to try?
>>19724342>good dark roasthttps://www.intelligentsia.com/products/el-diablo-dark-roast
>>19723873I don't mind having a handgrinder anyway but yeah I'll look into doing a full teardown on the Encore.>>19724162Nah, 650-700ml usually. I have the 2-cup V60 so it works perfectly.
I've been noticing that I only experience the whole Drink Coffee-> Poop phenomenon when Robusta is involved, is this just me?
>>19724383Yes because the Drink Coffee-> Poop phenomenon is almost entirely psychological.
>>19724354Nice, what a coincidence. I was thinking either that or pic rel. However the El Diablo one is cheaper so it's probably better to try that first.Also both websites offer a subscription. I wonder if those are worth.
>>19724476As you can tell I haven't had coffee yet. Here's the pic rel that I didn't even add.
>>19724383wishing I had that instead of the drink poop->coffee phenomenon
You guys use https://beanconqueror.com/ right?
I want to improve my coffee photography game.Any suggestions or tips? Got any examples of highly presumptuous pictures I can imitate?
I just brewed the most downright VENOMOUS cup of coffee I've ever tasted in my french press and all I did was try putting a paper filter over the grounds.
>>19724248>>19724215youve been very helpful, ty anonhave a nice pic from my local cafe
>>19724787Two hearts. That barista wants your dick, Anon
>>19724635I have it installed and should use it, I just don't. Its good for remembering what I have frozen though.>>19724787Anytime pal. Feel free to ask anything and we'll try to get you set up. It might be hard to swallow the upfront cost of some of the "premium" grinders but over the coarse of the lifetime the difference is going to be negligible and you'll be happier not having to use junk for years.
>>19724248>got the K4 grinder instead of the K6 because I thought I'd eventually get into espresso>still don't do espresso and have started to prefer pour overs so I doubt I'll get an espresso machine any time soonfeelsbadman..Is it that much of a difference between the K4 and K6? If the extra fines from the K4 gives my pour overs more "body" then I don't mind desu. I might just grind coarser to make up for it.
>>19724930Matt Winton won the world brewer's cup with a kinu. K4 is essentially a knockoff kinu. You're fine. I've made great pourovers with my kinu phoenix over the years.https://youtu.be/_7azuIxdRF4>gives my pour overs more "body"Thats it. Its just a different profile.You're trading more focus/clarity and separation for a little more body/texture and "blending" between the same flavors.
>>19724969Nice. Thanks anon. I just read in that chart thing that the K6 is a "stupid fucking deal for filter or espresso" and thought I missed out or something, but guess if I made some tasty brews (especially with some Costa Rica beans MMMM I never knew coffee could taste so strongly of brown sugar) then I don't need to worry. There's also the benefit that the K4 grinds a little faster than the K6 too.
>>19725018$99 K6 specifically is a stupid deal because you can't get the 48mm "comandante" burrs cheaper than the $240 kmax. The price gap between those two is bigger than the k4/jx.
>>19725081Ahh okay makes sense now.
>>19723461It feels so batch I'm depressed but I'd still be sad and drink it then not have coffe.e
>>19723941Yes, at least in most cases.
>>19722560JX-Pro has been the best purchase I've ever made, and the infinitely adjustable grinder is pretty cash
Kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oruhRlA39Q
>>19724930>>19725018You can find the Kingrinder heptagonal burr set on Aliexpress for $20 – $30. Not sure if/how it will fit in the k4 body though.
>>19725775>13 minutes inHOLY FUCK JUST GET TO THE BREWING
Coffeebros, how do i make the most compressed and strongest possible coffee within a single cup if doing it by cold brewing or something? I only really have some coffee filters, a coffee machine and a french press as for equipment.
New beenz bros.100% arabica espresso archetype.Will brew shortly.
>>19726668>fruityinstant pass
>>19715963brother bought a nespresso machine coffee it makes tastes like shit is that normal? How is good black coffee supposed to taste like?
>>19726675NTA but please tell me what taste notes to look for because most of the beans I've been buying are ass
>>19726701Yes, that's the expected result from that sort of machine.
>>19726668Fuck off back to Instagram.
>>19726705chocolaty, nutty, woody are usually good keywordsavoid anything that says vibrant, fruity, colorful, etc - that's a love it or hate it type coffee. That being said, it's possible your brewing technique or your grinder sucks more than the beans being all bad.
>>19726545I haven't succeeded in making a good cold brew yet (still somewhat of a beginner) but I would assume the strongest possible thing would be a 1:12 ratio French press. Maybe even slowly filter it through a V60 or something to have no fines in your drink.Oh and you could also try Turkish coffee which is quite strong but of course you gotta leave the last sip which would be full of sunken grounds.
>>19726713I did have a lot of "fruity" beans which all sucked EXCEPT for one Costa Rica origin beans which was so good. I'll try to look for chocolaty type of notes next. I feel like I just need to take a break from coffee however. Every coffee I'm making is starting to taste more bland, boring, and I don't even feel like finishing the cup. I'll clean my grinder and also just lay off of coffee for like 4 days or something. In the meantime I shall have green tea.
>>19726668First sip. Not dialed in yet. Ground too fine.Still tasty but not balanced.Will try a coarser second sip a bit later.New Luberamics cuppa n saucer too.
>>19726815Second sip. Almost dialed, 18g in 33g out, in 32s so next time a tad coarser.Balanced AF.Can clearely taste a bit of acidity that is absent from my last beenz (Robustarabica & N°7) but in a really tasteful and equilibrium way. I suppose those are the "fruity notes". I'm a novice so don't ask what fruit's the taste from.Tasty cocoa notes intermingle to produce a very balanced and rich syrupy taste.First Carasso goff, won't be last i presume.Cuppa is thicc and hefty and provides adequate thermal energy storage.
Do I need a cezve to make turkish coffee or can I make turkish coffee in any pot?
>>19727200Nah you're good to make it in a v60.
>>19726717>1:12 ratio French press.one part coffee 11 parts water? filter through a coffee filter after or?
what should my first gesha be?
>>19727338Multiply the weight of your dry coffee by 12 to get the weight of water you should use. For example 15g coffee would need 180g water for 1:12 ratio. Pic related is a French press. It's a type of immersion brewer. It has a fine mesh screen for filtration. Most people don't use additional filtration when using a french press, but some do. Watch James Hoffmann's video on the french press for a good technique. You can also do the exact same type of brew in a regular pot, canister, or jar and filter through a fine mesh sieve/strainer if you don't want to buy a French press right now. The trick with immersion brewing is to let the grounds settle on the bottom of the brewing vessel before slowly pouring into your cup.
700ml of water, 42g of coffee, J-Max at 230 clicks.The inconsistent coloration makes me think there's an issue with my technique, but that's just a matter of practice. On the other hand, I'm much, much happier with the overall state of the bed now and the taste is much more pleasant and balanced.
>>19727926holy fuck the grind isn't total dogshitallah be praised
>>19727926What do you mean by clicks?
>unique and interesting new coffee brewer is released >it's plasticEvery time! I know why they do this, but man, is it frustrating.When are they going to release a metal AeroPress?
>>19727926Now you see why we say hand grinders punch well above their price point.
>>19728024>unique and interesting new coffee brewer is released an aeropress without the pressing, which i do often.
>>19728016Getting closer to ideal every time. I won't say I'm perfectly "satisfied" with the end result, but that coffee was good enough that I definitely think it'd be worth serving to guests.>>19728022The J-Max has very small adjustments but it's not a stepless grinder, so it "clicks" every time you adjust the grind. A full rotation is 90 clicks, so 230 is two full clockwise rotations from 0 and then continuing to rotate until it's roughly on the 5 mark.>>19728061Absolutely. A little more effort than the Encore but much much easier than the shitty Timemore I used to have and fantastic results.
Flair sells bottom papers now kek. $9 for a 100pack and they've got pro2 and classic sized ones as well. Get em while they're hot.
>>19727688Lately I've been testing out using a filter on the press the way I saw on some video. Pretty good result and it's a nice way to switch things up trading some body for clarity. I'm consistently amazed how versatile and delicious the press can be even after using it for months as a daily driver (next I will get into v60).
I bought an electric cezve and I'm pretty happy with it. Turkish coffee and 0 effort.
>>19728619>0 effort.i bet you let a machine fuck your wife too because doing it yourself is too much effort.
ITS UP!>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSWdHBqAz-4
>>19728652I have a black bull for that.
>>19728652He should have married a man.
>>19727926Holy shit anon that looks really good (especially compared to the older photos kek). I'm glad that grinder is working well for you.
>>19728656i wish we had down votes
>>19728656Holy shit look at that charcoal at 3mins.
>>19728749Don't wish to ruin our site because you're too used to social credit scores.
>>19725827The description says it works for the K0, K1, and a few other grinders. I’m not sure if it would fit in the K4.However this does make me wonder, can someone get a high quality grinder for absolutely dirt cheap just by buying a K0 grinder and then replacing its shitty burrs with this heptagonal one?
>>19728990>can someone get a high quality grinder for absolutely dirt cheapNo but you can get a janker q2 for a couple bucks cheaper and wait 6 weeks for aliexpress shipping though.
>Meticulously measure everything, get my water to the specific temp, perfectly grind the beans>Tastes good>Accidently let my scale shut off and eyeball the rest, let the water cool too much, slight change in the grind because of how a single bean sat during the process>Best coffee I've ever brewed in my life that I will never be able to replicateFive times. Five times this has happened to me, I started counting because of how phenomenal the coffee turns out every single fucking time. Once is a happy coincidence, twice is frustrating, three plus is God laughing at me.
>>19728070The unique and interesting part is how it disperses water over the grounds. It's something different and fun. Other than that it's basically a plastic phin filter with paper filtration. My point about no metal AeroPress still stands. Why won't they make more brewers out of metal?
>>19728070That doesn't give you a no bypass brew.>>19729133It's just a low turbulence/agitation no bypass brewer. It's cool, but at $40 probably just get a switch instead.
>>19729101lmao
>>19728024>it's plasticKids these days. I didn't grow up with your plasticphobia and I'm 40 now and still haven't grown tits.
>>19729210> That doesn't give you a no bypass brew.Where does it bypass
>>19729101You must have some idea from how much water is leftover in your kettle, yes?
>>19729268Between the(slightly undersized) filters and the side holes on the cap. Lower bypass than other methods for sure, but not zero bypass. If you look at the tricolate, it uses slightly larger filters than the brewer so it fully adheres to the wall. Hoop does the same thing but the filter get screwed in between the two pieces giving it a good seal and forcing all the water down through the bed/filter.
>>19729297>Doesn't own an AeropressYou should have just said that instead of talking out of your ass. The bottom of the Aeropress chamber extends into the cap which not only keeps the perfectly sized filter firmly in place but also covers the holes on the sides (only useful when the filter is clogged and pressing).
>>19729342Have you ever had any grit in your ap brews? It's coming through those side holes. Theres a reason why the prismo and flow control don't have them, and thus have no bypass.
>Doesn't own an Aeropress>Reading comprehension is shit
>>19729210Switch has plastic.
>Those side holes are purely aesthetic and 120um thick paper filters make a water tight sealI wonder what happens if you drill a few holes above this valve and the rubber gasketed screen. You think any water would b y p a s s?
>>19729391More than the hoop?
should I drink some coffee?
>>19729603yes
Tasty brew in me belly.
>>19728656>>19728758Where to find beans that dark, yet not oily?
>>19729215More than anything it effects flavour and aroma. Just like aluminium from classic Moka pots, a small amount of plastic leaches into the coffee and gives off a hint of plastic flavour. And honestly, I don't want to be ingesting plastic if I can help it.
>Doesn't go back and read what was posted>Doubles down>ESL
>>19729983self roasted?
>>19729987>More than anything it effects flavour and aroma. Just like aluminium from classic Moka potprovably false
Drank no coffee for 2 days, then I had two cups and did my art reps for 14 hours straight. It is now time for work. I did not sleep.Time for more coffee.
>>19730163I'd rather not. I just want to taste a sip.
>>19729101>Five times. Five times this has happened to meYou're shit at brewing coffee is what you're saying?
recommendation for a scale for a v60 and clever dripper?is a hario good enough?https://www.amazon.de/HARIO-V60-Drip-Coffee-Scale/dp/B009GPJMOU/
New consoooom btw.
>>19730267why should i buy this if i can buy a comandante c40?
>>19730269>why should iI'm not your dad.
>>19730267>can't even use their own product well
>>19730287why not? give money, dad
>>19730267>another "born for the bin" hario product
>>19730269>c40please pay attention we c60 nao.
>>19730267Do people usually use hand grinders vertically on the counter like that? I normally rest it against my hip at an angle so it grinds smoother.
>>19730267HARIO IS CATCHING UP!
>>19730374I guess it's for the video and product presentatioon.
>>19730374hmm so i guess you could say a vertical crank would be... more ergonomic?
>>19730468Is your obsession with vertical cranked grinders related to your medical condition?
>>19730470its just more ergonomicand there is no reason not to have a large flat base for a hand grinderand you should put that large flat base on the kitchen benchand then put your hand on top for supportit just makes senseholding the grinder with 1 hand and awkwardly doing this shimmy motion with my hands to grind coffee is supremely retardedlike we have the tech to fix these issuesthe most expensive, highest quality hand grinders are bench mounted and or vertically cranked, coincidence? i think not.
>>19730487>the most expensive, highest quality hand grinders are bench mounted and or vertically cranked, coincidence? i think not.No fucking shit. Are you retarded?
>>19730487Thanks for your insight. Flawless logic.
>>19730487Mazzer 83mms aren't good in a hand grinder. Hopefully you'll come to realize this before you spend your aussiebux. They like high rpm and back pressure from a hopper, neither of which you'll get in an hg1p.
>>19730487You should buy it.
>>19729914Your stomach shouldn't look like that anon...
>>19730543>Gee anon, why is your one arm so big and stronger compared to the other? Y-You're not thinking about me are you!?
>>19730075No wonder why the world hates aeropissers. Do you think those side holes in the stock cap have anything to do with side bypass, around the edges of the coffee bed?https://coffeeadastra.com/2021/09/07/reaching-fuller-flavor-profiles-with-the-aeropress/> the clever metal filter design, which includes a silicon ring around it that prevents any possible bypass of water near the edges of the coffee bed.>Fellow Prismo attachment has two parts: a lower cap with a pressure valve, and an upper metal ring with a silicon gasket around it which prevents all side water bypass.>Use the Prismo if you have one, it helps to prevent side bypass.
>>19730465I guess so, yeah. I tried doing it like that with my k4 when I got it and it was a nuisance. Much more aesthetic, though. It might be easier if it had some grippy material underneath and a wider base.>>19730468>>19730487To be fair, wouldn't the vertical crank require additional gearing? And that would include bevel gears, too, so the cost difference would be significant.
>Still doesn't understand what was being discussedKeep trying, sweetie!
>>19730615>I brew no bypass ceado brews in my aeropress>no you don't, here's where it bypasses>nuh uh
>I'm only pretending to be retardedI'm glad we could clear that up.
>an aeropress without the pressing, which I do oftenNo wonder these threads have gone to shit. The aeropressgayng is somehow more delusional than ever.
>>19730725So much plastic...
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