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/tea/ - /tsg/
This thread is for discussing teas, tisanes, and other herbal infusions.
info: types of tea, where to get tea, how to brew tea
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Let me guess. You "need" more.
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>>18378245
Yes
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Japanese green tea!
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>>18378233
>coworker calls me gay
>flip him off
>go back to shopping for teacups
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>>18378298
With or without handles?
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>>18378245
I prefer to use ceramic instead of glass but otherwise that's plenty
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>>18378314
Without.
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>>18378322
Nice, i added another etsy store to the pastebin recently that has some cool stuff.
https://www.etsy.com/shop/GraceTeawares
If you want little 40ml gongfu cups essence of tea has some super nice reproductions of wood fired ming style ones and chawangshop has some cool antique roc period big cups and some antique small cups
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i like bitter tea :|
the more bitter the better
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>>18378398
Boy do I have something for you
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuding
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>>18378369
Nice.
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>>18378398
Not the most price efficient way to buuy bitter tea but this is famously bitter.
https://www.bitterleafteas.com/shop/tea/puer/bitter-end-xtra-2019-laomane-bitter-varietal-raw-puer
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>>18378298
Are there any teas that have gender stereotypes besides puerh lesbians, and only men liking lapsang suchong?
I know white porcelain tea sets are stereotyped as an old lady thing.
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>>18378421
Yeah, men who like the teas that I specifically drink are known to have huge cocks and be excellent in bed.
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>>18378427
That's not a stereotype, that's just true.
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>>18378421
boba and matcha - women, gay men
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>>18378434
you got me there, it's delicious tho
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>>18378434
>gay men get iced coffee AND matcha
If you saw my dunkin donuts purchase history you'd think I never saw a woman in my life.
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black - normie who just buys the thing labeled tea
puer - lesbian
matcha, boba - straight women, gay men
oolong, white - straight man
yerba mate (latino) - der boomer
yerba mate (white) - art hoe
weird Chinese herbs - Chinese grandma
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To the person who asked in the previous thread yes this is loose leaf.
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>>18378233
>Drink some tea
>Feel good
It just works
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>>18378245
That looks like expensive tea
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>>18378398
I drink assamica tea
WITHOUT MILK
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>>18378095
Agreed. Give me a big mug full of tea, I don't want to have to get up to get more.
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Women are drinking tea now. How do we feel about this? What does the Quran teach us?
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>>18378233
It's getting cool enough for comfy puerh drinking hours but I really want matcha
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>>18378931
>BOOBA TEA
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>>18378472
you missed green
Green tea drinkers are on the edge of stress induced insanity.
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>>18378434
matcha is gay? I get matcha latte but matcha by itself seems more like a weeb thing, westerners hate it
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>>18378434
>>18378472
>be bi
>luv matcha
>'ate boba
you may be on to something anons
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What would grandma style be like?
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>>18378931
>milky ass tapioca ball shit
>tea
i mean... really? I guess it's tea.
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>>18379216
this. where is the green tea bros?
t. drinking longjing right now.
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>>18380000
western style brew in a large teapot
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How does /tea/ feel about ripe puers with lots of bitterness? Is it a tasty treat? Or is it another bing with potential ruined by dry storage?
Pic unrelated
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is matcha supposed to taste like grass scraped from the bottom of a lawn mower?
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>>18380040
Its supposed to taste like savory seaweed and vegetable broth soup with a garnish of freshly cut grass
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>>18378931
In Taiwan liberal women are called "boba liberals"
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Ordered some old ripe from http://www.pu-erhtea.com/
Site is kinda jank (no https) but payments are handled offsite through paypal so at least its not trying to take payments through an unencrypted webform or anything. Will report on how it goes.
Prices for shipping clearly haven't been updated since the pandemic, it cost me $18 to ship 850g via EMS. Man i miss when king tea mall was that cheap.
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>>18380478
which one did you get? i got some white, black and raw puer
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>>18380518
I got some old fuhai ripe. Grabbed a few different things so i can decide if i like any enough to buy in bulk.
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>>18378233
>be me
>love green tea
>love matcha
>have Japanese wife
>she hates green tea, matcha, genmaicha, and even mugicha which is so damn refreshing when chilled
>hates hot drinks altogether
>only likes chilled oolong and mostly drinks iced coffee
The only beverages we fully agree on are alcohol.
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>>18380564
That's pretty normal for Japanese, they mostly drink bottled tea if they drink any at all.
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>>18380478
>>18380518
>>18380543
Keep us posted on how it is, if they are good I may have to put in an order myself. Shame they don't have a bigger sheng selection. I've had my eye on that shop for awhile but but my tea budget is constantly overextended.
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>>18380604
Hopefully it goes well. Too bad its kunming storage but that's how it goes, it was very trendy to have dry storage back then
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Looking at this cake, im guessing its not assamica. Does this look like Camellia taliensis to anyone else?
http://www.tuochatea.com/yubang-banzhang-silver-bud-raw-pu-erh-cake-p306/
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>>18380713
I wouldn't know but it is a nice looking cake. I remember it being one of the teas on tuochatea I was interested in.
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>>18378233

Had real oolong with a Chinese girl. Was very nice. She said they would have served us white people oolong if she hadn't been there.
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>>18380811
Wat
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>>18380811
QRD on white people oolong
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>>18380850
>>18380816


Think it woulda just been really watered down idk lol, or something similar. She said she heard a waitress say "get the white people oolong" in regards to a different table
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>>18380850
asians are served high quality dancongs
whites are served stale formosa oolong
blacks and hispanics are served lipton with a dash of rat poison
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KTM order arrived :D i didnt get any free samples though :(
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>>18380946
The US store? They never give me samples
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>>18378233
Can I get a brief rundown on the cleaning process for different chinese teas?

Typically if its oolong I dont 'wash' it, and everything else I will 'steep' for 30 seconds then steep for a longer period of time
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>>18381405
You don't need to rinse most tea. I would do closer to 10-15 seconds than 30.
I really only rinse puer and other teas that can get dirty so to speak. Its not needed at all for black tea green tea etc unless the first brew has a little off taste that you want to try to remove, then you can give them a quick 10-15 secind rinse.
My technique is just putting my tea in the warmed gaiwan, adding water, swirling it around for a few seconds and then dump that water in my sink/waste bowl. If im not using a gaiwan i will just put my tea brew basket in my mug, fill it half way with hot water. Enough to cover the leaves, then pretty much immediately dump the mug out and then fill it with water for the regular brew.
A lot of people rinse more as a way to warm the leaves and make the first infusion brew faster than any need to clean the tea.
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I wish I owned a bamboo whisk for my matcha tea. I just use a regular whisk for now.
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>tfw no assertive Chinese gf that makes sure you don't get served the gweilo tea
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What do tapioca pearls feel like, bros? Are they soft?
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There are some farms in China that are making matcha and gyokuro. I wonder how those come out.
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>>18381548
Wet and squishy.
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>>18381556
Are any of them making premium versions of them? I thought the sencha that's produced in china is typically super cheap commodity tea.
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>>18381556
Is it more affordable than Japanese versions?
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>>18381437
Alright thanks. I thought it was to remove the fishy smell
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>>18381569
Yeah if they tea is fishy rinse it. Sorry if i didn't explain that well
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what is your guys time limit for tea leaves still in your pot / gaiwan? i take the lid off of my pot and let them dry a bit and will usually only do another infusion if its been something like 10 or 15 minutes. is this stupid and wasteful of me?
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>>18381586
FDA says 2 hours for perishables
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Where can I get high quality spiced teas (mainly cardamom)? Am I better off just buying quality black tea and spicing it myself? I really want to stop drinking the cheap stuff I get at the middle eastern grocery. Have looked at Ahmad but am not sure about the quality.
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>>18381612
Vahdam's chai blends are pretty good, probably not top shelf though.
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>>18381586
I try not to leave wet leaves in a gaiwan for more than 12 hours. Anything shorter than that is fine.
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Eating cheese and drinking green tea
Recommended
Tastes grass-fed
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>>18381610
>perishables
That is the least specific description of tea I have ever heard. Do you have a source?
>>18381586
When I re-use the leaves, I make sure it's the next tea I brew, so less than 24 hours.
>TFW the point is laughably moot if you drink puerh.
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>>18381736
>TFW the point is laughably moot if you drink puerh.
If you just leave wet leafs in a gaiwan for a few days they will grow visible mold. Just because it already comes moldy doesn't mean i want to grow extra mold and drink it
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>>18381766
Yeah a few days is excessive, I was mostly memeing.
However 15 min is excessive too IMO.
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How do (you) make tea? I just make water hot with an electric kettle, pour it in a mug with a tea bag of whatever I feel like drinking today, and let it steep for 10-15 minutes before I stir in a little sugar/honey and drink it.
I'm curious about making tea "the right way". I believe it's an autistically specific temperature for an autistically specific amount of time. I know that memorizing a few temperatures and times isn't too hard, I'd get that down after making 5 cups, but how do you know what temperature your water is? It doesn't look like many kettles have thermometers on them.
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>>18381612
I just realized I said black tea. I think the cardamom teas are usually made with green
>>18381615
Thank you, I just ordered a bag to test it out
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>>18381799
Teapot and kettle.
>temperature
For black tea, rolling boil. For green tea, when it's hissing loudly just before it starts getting quieter.
>time
I go by how it looks and smells. With green tea it's better to err on the side of taking it out too soon, black tea is more forgiving.
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>>18381809
>Smell
Well shit, I guess it may be finally time to look into allergy meds. I've never really had a good sense of smell and I think allergies are to blame, though I've never been properly diagnosed.
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>>18381813
Same. My tea addiction has reached the point where I'm going to an allergist and getting a septioplasty. Do you think the tea vampire is smiling upon me?
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>>18381799
There is a pretty extensive guide in the pastebin but it kind if sucks.
The only time you really need to use cooler water is green tea and some very green oolings, everything else you use boiling water. I cool water by running my electric kettle and then waiting 5 minutes after it turns off before i pour it.
Many of the people that post here just put tea leaves in a mug and add boiling water, just keep the leafs in and drink it when it cools, add freshly boiled water when you drink 2/3 down to make a second cup with the same leaves. Its called grampa style brewing.
If you want to take the tea out after brewing 5 minutes works fine for almost everything.
The other way that people like to brew is gongfu. Small cup, lots of tea, 5 second brews over and over.
The write up for that is good in the pastebin so i wont repeat it
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>>18381821
God speed anon.
>>18381813
>allergy meds
You can get a years supply of generic claratin (loratadine) for like $15 on ebay, just take one tablet a day and it will deal with most allergy issues.
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>>18381799
From my autism research I read the perfect temperature is 80-85 Celsius for green and 86-89 C for black. The logic is the water should be hot as possible (but not so hot to damage the antioxidants) to make the tea as quickly as possible so the aroma doesn't cook off. So 15 minutes is too long. 3-6 minutes is enough depending on your tolerance for astringency and the particular tea.

I just poke a digital thermometer in my mug before dunking the tea in it. No fancy kettle.
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>>18381405
The "rinse" is more to help the tea open up not really to clean the tea. You can just add a bit of extra time to you first steep instead to serve that purpose (which is what I personally do). If your tea is visibly covered in filth then you probably do not want be drinking it anyways, rinse or no. Maybe a rinse will actually help with extra skanky heicha but again I would say if it's beyond your comfort level to drink it without a rinse then you may want to reconsider drinking it with one. If you are lucky enough to own a cake old enough to have surface dust you should get a brush. That's really kind of an edge case though.

>>18381569
>Alright thanks. I thought it was to remove the fishy smell
In my experience if the tea tastes funky first brew it's going to keep tasting funky throughout. That sort of taste generally doesn't seem to just wash off for me at least. For example shou is typically going to have the taste of wet dirt, it is just intrinsic to the tea due to how it is made. Some people are going to disagree with me and prefer to rinse, that's fine to, do what works for you.
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>>18381650
>I try not to leave wet leaves in a gaiwan for more than 12 hours.
same here, I always finish the tea the same day or put it in the fridge.

>>18381799
>I'm curious about making tea "the right way".
There is more than one "right way" to make tea. It depends on the tea and what you are tying to accomplish. Even then temperatures, times, and the like are more of guidelines than things you need to hard and fast memorize.

>how do you know what temperature your water is? It doesn't look like many kettles have thermometers on them.
While you don't necessarily need one. I have a electric kettle that I can set the temperature and have it maintain the water at that temp. You can buy them online and they are not exceptionally expensive. Again, they are a luxury and you don't need one to make good tea.
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>>18381846
>3-6 minutes for a mug
I see, I always thought if I steeped for too short a time it'd be weak tea and I wouldn't be able to taste much. How long would you steep a 32oz tumbler? I drink a lot of tea at work in that and I always let it sit for 20 minutes, though it's more to let it cool to a point I can drink it than for taste.
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>>18382034
Its 3-6 minutes either way, assuming you are using enough tea for the amout of water in your tumbler
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>>18381857
>Some people are going to disagree with me
It depends what you mean by the tea staying funky. I definitely get less (not zero) fishy taste from shou on subsequent brews, so a hot rinse is basically "brewing 0.5" and takes away the absolute worst of the fish taste.
>>18382034
>if I steeped for too short a time it'd be weak tea
It is entirely relative to the tea to water ratio. Gongfu steeps for a few seconds for the first brew.
>How long would you steep a 32oz tumbler?
Steeping longer isn't the answer to a larger container (it would taste overextracted, and possibly weak ironically), you use more leaves. It isn't wasteful, if you don't overextract them you can use them for a second brew.
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Anyone tried Kava? It's a root and herbal remedy that apparently helps with anxiety and can be used as a substitute for alcohol.

Made some of it today (blended some tablespoons of it with water then strained it) and I'm not sure about it. Kinda feel relaxed but not like with alcohol. Not going to have any alcohol tonight as it says mixing it with alcohol is quite bad for your liver.

Any inputs on this? Watched some youtube videos of people swearing by it.
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>>18382152
It has an effect not unlike alcohol in sufficient doeses. I find it interesting and fairly fun but i guess it could become habit forming if used regularly. There is some controversy as to whether or not long term use of kava can cause liver damage or if that's the result of the kava being cut with other plants from the same family, luckily the better quality vendors do batch testing so adulteration shouldn't be an issue.
The first couple times i tried it it didn't seem to do much, some sources seem to have dramatically more potent kava than others, i had good luck with kava from krakenkratom and root of happiness.
It seems like you need to blend it for a long ass time or even do that elaborate brewing thing with the mesh bag to really get everything out of it. I see people using liquid emulsifiers to improve the extraction process.
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>>18379190
kek
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>>18382152
Florida rehab girls go to kava bars until they get bored enough to relapse.
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>>18382152
I tried it at a local kava bar a couple times, it's not very tasty and some nausea is very common for new users. Do not bring a date to a kava bar, mine puked. feels alright but I wouldn't complain if I never did it again
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>>18378472
oolong white and cock are my favorite things so explain this
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>>18381612
I just make my own spiced black tea. It is really not a huslte abd tastes better
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>>18381806
Not really. Cardamom is used for both green and black tea. The most famous of all spiced tea mixes the classic masla chai is a black tea, and pretty much allways has cardamom
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>>18378233
I want a recipe for hallucinations
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>>18382691
Ma huang abuse will unearth any cracks in your psyche.
>A new study in this month's American Journal of Psychiatry indicates that the herbal supplement ephedra may cause or exacerbate psychiatric symptoms, including mania, hallucinations, and severe depression.
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Friendship ended with OOLONG TEA
Now YERBA MATE is my best friend
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>>18382704
Thanks friend, will def try it
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>>18382714
Say hello to the shadow people for me. Haven't had any good convos with them since I stopped snorting adderall and staying up sweating for several days.
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i got a giftcard for my birthday, never bought any fancy tea online before. please judge my order and recommend a site to get mate because the pastebin site doesn't seem to have anything smoked
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>>18382857
>because the pastebin site doesn't seem to have anything smoked
Oh they do, they just labeled shit weirdly
Baracoa is smoked
https://www.mymateworld.com/product/yerba-mate-la-dicha-smoked-barbacua/
https://www.mymateworld.com/product/yerba-mate-la-merced-barbacua-smoked-1-10-pounds/
This last one is intese don't go for it unless you love peaty scotch
https://www.mymateworld.com/product/yerba-mate-flor-de-lis-classic-barbacua-since-1887-1-10-bag/
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>>18383201
Sorry barbacua means smoked
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>>18382857
I like it except i would replace the yabao with something else, its a very delicate tea and its a bit pricey.
Maybe some black
https://yunnansourcing.us/collections/black-tea-spring-2022/products/yi-mei-ren-wu-liang-mountain-yunnan-black-tea
Or
https://yunnansourcing.us/collections/black-tea-spring-2022/products/high-mountain-red-ai-lao-mountain-black-tea
Or this box of black tea
https://yunnansourcing.us/collections/xiaguan-tea-factory/products/2021-xiaguan-hong-cha-feng-qing-black-tea
Or maybe some green tea
https://yunnansourcing.us/collections/green-tea-spring-2022/products/premium-grade-dragon-well-tea-from-hangzhou-long-jing-tea
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What kind of tea is this
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>>18383437
bi luo chun maybe?
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You've seen the oriental tea. But what are the ancient yuropean teas
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>>18383437
Some kind of tippy Chinese green tea
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>>18382152
I've tried a few different brands and they only make me more anxious, not like alcohol in the least. Between that and the... questionable taste I'll steer clear.
I also feel like shit after taking kratom or DXM so I suspect it's some vague opioid association or something in my wiring.

>>18382709
based yerbachad, just finished my fourth cup of mate designed for Polish export, pretty solid.

>>18382857
haven't had the chrysanthemum but those others are all good, especially the silver needle "pu'er." The ya bao is nice but very strange, it's sweet and easy to like but not exactly representative of anything. I'd recommend the "AAA" tie guan yin if you want a very green oolong, and Drunk on Red or Ning'er Honey Aroma for blacks.

>recommend a site to get mate
I've ordered from mymateworld and from yerbamatero.com and had good experiences with each. Are you in the US?
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Went a little crazy ordering tea. Im now waiting on a little over two kilos of puer.
On the bright side its actually nice stuff so im not living out the way too much cheap tea meme.
Now i just need a few kilos of hei cha.
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>>18383460
>>18383464
It tastes like a white
>>18383461
Ancient europeans didn't have tea, it was imported in the 16th century
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>>18383546
Could be a Nepali or African white maybe
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Whats stopping farmers from adding trace amounts of flavoring to their tea?
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>>18383604
You would taste it...
There are only so many food flavoring additives and they aren't that hard to recognize. Between buying flavored seltzer water and flavored vape juice im familiar with most of the common food flavorings and i don't think you could add any of them to tea without people noticing.
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>>18383604
this is common with cheap mass-market bagged teas. it's also a common problem with jin xuan.
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>>18383642
> it's also a common problem with jin xuan.
I always just assumed that anything called milk oolong is openly flavored. Ive only seen one or two shops selling it where they specifically say flavoring hasn't been added
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>>18383484
What did you get anon?

>>18383604
>Whats stopping farmers from adding trace amounts of flavoring to their tea?
It's not impossible, but added flavorings don't tend to mesh well with the natural tastes and they will likely wash out of the tea faster than its intrinsic flavor. A lot of teas have a well understood range of flavors and adding something too unusual would make it obvious. The main tea I have seen accusations of unlabeled added flavorings is milk oolongs. I have also seen accusations that some unscrupulous dancong producers add flavoring but unlike milk oolongs I have never seen anyone actually call out a particular vendor or product on it so I don't think it is that common. Dancongs are know for their difficult to achieve floral scents so I can see why the incentive to cheat would be there.
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>>18383546
>>18383437
Snow Buds maybe?
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>>18383461
the tea plant is from Asia, so there weren't any
I'm sure people have been drinking various herbal infusions for many thousands of years though. chamomile, mint - stuff like that
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>>18383642
>>18383648
yeah I think most teas sold as milk oolong are flavored and most sold as jin xuan are not
it's easy to tell them apart even without brewing - if it smells very strongly of milk or cream, it's flavored
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>>18383705
>What did you get anon?
A few young raws from Mengku and a few old menghai ripes. Really went on a big Lincang teas kick.
Im especially exited for a few teas by mengku rongshi.
Lol this guy always raises the prices of a tea after i buy some.
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2021-mengku-rongshi/products/2020-mengku-rongshi-ben-wei-da-cheng-original-flavor-great-achievement-cake-500g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha?variant=38075600109748
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>>18383820
Do tell us how that cake is. I have been planing to pick up a previous years edition of it.

>>18383820
>Lol this guy always raises the prices of a tea after i buy some.
shame I missed kingteamall's glory days.
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>>18383846
>Do tell us how that cake is. I have been planing to pick up a previous years edition of it.
since i just went autism price shopping on them.
First of all the cake series used to be called tea spirit until the name change in 2014 then they changed it back to tea spirit in 2021. Anyway the one on fullchea seems to be the best price.
if you want a younger cake tea-expert has the 2021 version pretty cheap. $50 but its a standard size cake and not 500g
https://tea-expert.net/mengku/10128-cha-hun-2021?page=2
grandness also has the 2015 Mother tea tree cake for $80, allegedly its a less premium series than the tea spirit / best flavor cakes but the seem to sell for more generally on the market.
https://www.grandnesstea.com/Mother-Tree-Tea-Yunnan-Mengku-Pu-erh-Tea-Cake-Raw-Puer-Sheng-Pu-er-500g-2015-p91879.html
>shame I missed kingteamall's glory days.
he always pulled that shit, before the first time i ever ordered from him on his old site I emailed him a question about a tea and he raised the price of it before replying.
he still has some great deals you just need to do a bit of comparison shopping these days.
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>>18381548
bags of sand.
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Update on the shitty Baltimore meme tea I bought. It's awful as hell. Blended it with my smoked and aged da hong Pao which is already mildly vanillay and sweet and it's ok I guess.
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>>18382709
>YERBA MATE

Sir, this is a tea thread
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>>18384014
Was the base ripe itself fishy or otherwise weird or did it just taste like nothing but chocolate flavoring?
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>>18384031
literally just tastes like the fat/sugar bloomed chocolate and vanilla extract that covered it over. I don't even think it's pu-er but probably just really "fermented" (oxidized) oolong/black.

12 bucks for an ounce. still keking.
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>>18383892
>I emailed him a question about a tea and he raised the price of it before replying.
KEK, that's kind of awful. My guess is that he ether drop ships or keeps a very lean inventory therefore when his supplier raises the price he immediately does so as well (plus markup of course). Additionally, he probably misses out on volume discounts.
>he still has some great deals you just need to do a bit of comparison shopping these days.
I know, KTM just never seems to win me over when I am putting together possible orders. If it weren't for post-covid shipping costs I would have ordered from them by now. Their selection of big factory cakes is unmatched but their selection of bargain priced teas is much thinner unless you just want semi-aged XG stuff or shu.

>>18384094
>12 bucks for an ounce. still keking.
Why the hell did you spend that much on chocolate flavored shu? That's like the textbook example of what not to get from a tea shop even if it were reasonably priced. Next you are going to tell me you bought pumpkin spice flavored yancha and matcha-latte flavored longjing.
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>>18384094
>. I don't even think it's pu-er but probably just really "fermented" (oxidized) oolong/black.
That's probably a smart move, cheap looseleaf ripe can be a nightmare
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>>18384134
>Why the hell did you spend that much on chocolate flavored shu?
idk. I was in the airport and they didn't have any good choice.
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>>18384134
>shu
man. I keep forgetting the sheng / shou shit. ya it probably was some weak ass shu.
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>>18384134
>Next you are going to tell me you bought pumpkin spice flavored yancha and matcha-latte flavored longjing.
how did you know?!
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>>18384152
No worries fren. Just having a bit of fun. Watch out though, the puerh lesbian may not take your sacrilege so kindly. She's got a mighty temper you know.

>>18384161
>how did you know?!
Call it woman's intuition.
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Puer lesbian according to Stable Diffusion
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>>18384204
Powerful
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>>18384204
what site did you use to make that? or did you run it locally?
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>>18384233
https://huggingface.co/spaces/stabilityai/stable-diffusion
It's kind of slow and not as impressive as the custom tuned ones people use on /g/, but you can get funny results.
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>>18384184
>>18384204
>>18384233
>>18384251
>Haha I type in relevant promp so my shitty AI image is on topic everywhere!
>I'm gonna post it in this thread too!
>>>/trash/
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>>18384254
>t. mad soon go be replaced by a machine artist
Time to learn other skills bruh
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>>18383468
>>18383284
>>18383201
Thanks guys, looking into everything, also yes I’m in the US
>>18384254
>no fun allowed
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>>18378233
Why does green tea just taste like hot water with the most vague scent ever? I follow the instructions, have water around 80 degrees, steep for 1-2 mins. Even put in lots, LOTS of jasmine green tea leaves and it still tastes like nothing, in a sense you could say green tea is literally just a load of hot water. Bought some Oolong so I can feel better about myself, does that at least taste of something?
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>>18384336
depends on the green tea and the oolong. if you bought cheap stale shit (and a lot of jasmine green tea is cheap stale shit), it's going to taste stale and cheap, yeah
it's easy to get decent black tea for cheap, but with green tea it's worth it to spend a bit more for current year's harvest of decent quality stuff
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>>18384336
>tea tastes like hot water
Just use more leaves untill it tastes like something. You can also try brewing it longer, something like 3-4 minutes
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>>18384336
try 90C, 4 minutes. those temp things are usually always wrong.
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Where do I go to buy fancy rooibos?
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>>18384814
Basically it doesn't exist, 90% of the roibos on the market comes from a single farming collective. So its pretty much all coming from the same batches from the same farms
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>>18384814
>>18384818
Try honeybush
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>>18384336
Would this happen to be jasmine pearls? If it's rolled into balls you'll want to steep longer so they unfurl. Like twice as long
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Did the anon that ordered that chen shang hao tea get it yet?
Im wondering what the quality to price ratio is like.
I thought their big claim to fame was having an exclusive contract with a bunch of old banzang village farmers so I'm wondering how their other teas stack up.
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>>18384818
So mountain rose is the best I can realistically get then?

>>18384824
Got it. Is the green rooibos worth it?
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>>18384952
>So mountain rose is the best I can realistically get then?
Seems like it
>green rooibos
I haven't tried it. Sounds like it tastes more grassy and green if you are into that kind of thing.
>honeybush
Super sweet tastes like honey, very nice, if it gets bitter on you try really short brews something like 60-90 seconds
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Lots of cheap factory stuff with a few higher end productions, better selection of raws then the last shop i posted.
http://www.royalpuer.com/
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>>18378427
It's a stereotype because it's true, fellow king
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>>18385071
Does kunming storage have less mytotoxins?
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>>18385656
It is too dry in kunming for tea to get mold.
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>>18385727
Wtf I love dry storage now
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>>18385730
Yunnan sourcing is dry storage, but they buy aged tea from other places so you have to check descriptions, also chawangshop, touchatea, pu-erhtea, yunnancraft are all in kunming
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This yunan craft store was selling wooden pumidor boxes that hold a tong. They are sold out i wonder if i can get a huge humidor tea chest on taobao.
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They also have a map of yunnan with little blurbs (in chinese) about the major tea villages.
Its quite messy compared to the one anon got on taobao but kind of interesting.
https://www.yunnancraft.com/en/decoration/yunnan-tea-mountains-map-poster
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>>18385855
What's that little dial measuring?
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>>18380855
Was this in Asia? Where did you go? A restaurant?
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>>18386027
Humidity. Those analogue hygrometers are shit for what its worth.
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>>18384336
is your tap water very hard? It would make the tea a bit tasteless but try the oolong first, could just be old green tea, oolong will last much longer in storage while green tea will start to lose its taste after a year or less.
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what do you guys do with tea you don't like, but have a lot of?

seems a waste to throw it away, but drinking it all will take forever and I don't know what else to do with it
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>>18386457
Make chifir for a mild high. [spoiler]I just leave it collecting dust until it's undoubtedly stale then throw it out.[/spoiler]
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>>18386457
Make iced sweet tea. If it's not delicious, destroy the rest with fire as vengeance.
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>>18386457
big cups grandpa style if its something that won't age well
otherwise let it get older and see
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>>18386457
drink it or send it to friends. I use to buy big packs of random samplers for gifts anyhow.
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wtf bros, can sheng cakes go stale in low humidity?
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Pic related. When I bought it originally, it tasted like cranberry club soda and now it sort of tastes flat and astringent.
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>>18384952
>Is the green rooibos worth it?
Yeah, it's subtler than red but still pretty tasty. Blend it with mint or nettle or lemongrass or with green tea if that's your thing.
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>>18386666
Maybe your storage is shit, try leaving it in a box with a cup of water for a while. If it truly sucks now, you're not gonna make it worse, go nuts. Just don't actually get it wet.
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>>18386751
I just keep it in the mylar bag it came in, in my cupboard like my other tea... how the fuck am I supposed to store it?
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>>18386765
Mylar bag isn't terrible, but it's probably dried out. You're supposed to store it with more humidity, and it shouldn't get too cold. ~70 is fine imo, but you're going to have to take better care of tea in the west. Stick it in a plastic box with a cup of water, or get a paper towel wet, stick the paper towel inside a plastic bag, and leave the top of the bag slightly open, and stick THAT bag inside your mylar bag. You shouldn't get the tea wet though, so be careful.
Your tea might just be old though, sheng goes through kind of a boring phase in the 2-6 year range where all the youngness goes away but it hasn't developed any other flavors from aging. Farmer leaf especially focuses on showcasing the flavors of young sheng. I don't mean that he processes too green, I just mean that that's the style of tea he shoots for.

I'd keep it fairly warm and moist for around a week and see what you think, it'll be a fun experiment either way. Don't go over ~70% RH, but I doubt you can accomplish that without special tools anyway.
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>>18386777
what about a rubbermaid roughneck box with a glass of water in it?
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>>18386809
Yeah, that'll work. Make sure there are no strong smells, you shouldn't worry too much if it's only a week though. Let us know how it turns out.
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>>18386821
i found my giant airscape container instead, lol. will update after a few days.
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>>18386854
Based coffee fag
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>>18386765
easiest way is to just buy a small 65-70% boveda packet and throw it into the mylar bag (8g boveda should be fine), puer is constantly changing and should be stored in a humid environment at room temperature. feel free to buy a cheap hygrometer too but from what i've found most of them are very inaccurate, i recommend govee if you want max accuracy but theyre kinda expensive.
Not sure if it will get back to how it was before but maybe give it some time, it could also be going through an awkward phase in aging.
With a glass of water you are risking moisutre getting onto the cake which will then grow molds i would really not do it.
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>>18386939
DUDE
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>>18378369
>made in China
Might as well just shop at Wal Mart
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>>18387016
take a pic of the setup lol, if you're doing the glass of water thing maybe use a much smaller glass and very little water, get a hygrometer.
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>>18387047
>You have to order a bunch of shit
People have been storing their tea like this for ages now, just don't splash water on your tea like a spaz and you'll be fine. /tsg/ needs to stop telling people to spend money every time they have a problem. You don't need to spend ~$150 dollars to try something other than tap water, you don't need to spend ~$50 to try better storage. At least see if it's something you care about instead of just blindly spending money.
http://www.marshaln.com/2013/08/temperature-humidity-and-storage/
People have been storing tea this way in the west for well over a decade, more tea has been drunk from a box with a glass of water in it than you've ever seen. It'll be fine, live life, take risks, reason with uncertainty. All that's on the table is ~$10-$20 of tea that anon no longer likes.
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>>18386457
>what do you guys do with tea you don't like, but have a lot of?
Make kombuncha
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>>18386657
>wtf bros, can sheng cakes go stale in low humidity?
>>18386666
>When I bought it originally, it tasted like cranberry club soda and now it sort of tastes flat and astringent.
Looks like he ships those in decent bags
Anyway yeah you generally want to keep the humidity above 45%-50% and below 65%.
Don't put it in a box with water, just find one of those boveda humidity packs cheap on ebay or amazon, the 58% ones are a good choice,
Anyway just close that in the bag with the tea and leave it alone for a weak or two and see how it goes.
I should also mention if it was really young puer when you get it and its now 6months or a year old it could just be the natural evolution of the teas flavor over time. There is a whole debate over very green processing making tea that tastes great initially but gets bland as it ages.
If you want to get deeper into puer you should set up a pumidor to store your yea so it doesn't dry out too much. Teadb.org has some good info about them
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AHHHH I'M FUCKING KUNMINGGGGG
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>>18387164
Mashn lives in HK of course he thinks pudiors are stupid, he can just put his tea on a shelf in his living room.
https://teadb.org/storage-advice-east-asia/
I generally agree with the sentiment that telling people to buy more stuff is a too common solution.
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Speaking of puer storage i found an interesting perspective on it that i hadn't seen before.
I typically keep all my teas in sealed plastic bags in the pumiodor, mostly just to keeo the crumbs in place but maybe i was on to something.
http://mattchasblog.blogspot.com/2018/04/pumidor-puerh-storage-vs-sealing-shrink.html?m=1
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got my nuclear war stash
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>>18387314
>I just got back from Southern Germany, where the land is flat and the beer is good. The weather was beautiful. I also came back with chapped lips, which led me to think about storing puerh tea in these places.

>>18387324
The real nuclear bomb is that storage probably doesn't matter that much, beyond the actual known detriments, like light, really dry air, the tea getting wet* etc. Yeah, I imagine wrapping your tea is fine. The bing itself is basically a boveda pack, it'll "breathe" and control humidity. If your tea is already too dry though, wrapping it won't do anything. I don't use a pumidor, but sometimes I do chuck tea in a more humid environment for a while if it suffers during shipping. If you don't notice any issues with your tea, I wouldn't worry about storage. I'm not convinced anyone has successfully aged tea in synthetic storage, and I'm even less convinced that it's possible for it to be economical, compared to buying tea from a professional like the vampire or similar.

*a lot of people like wet stored tea, yes wet stored tea is wet, yes wet stored tea is moldy, no HK is not automatically wet, it is just more wet, yes there is wet stored HK tea, no it is not usually imported
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>>18387360
>which led me to think about storing puerh tea in these places.
Yeah i read the post. He says Germany is bad for storing tea, but then concludes that you shouldn't do anything except maybe stick a glass of water next to it.
His actual conclusion is clearly that tea is going to age like shit in places that don't have climates similar to sothern china but instead of just saying that he just tells people to let do and not worry about it.
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>>18387451
>but then concludes that you shouldn't do anything except maybe stick a glass of water next to it.
Yeah, this'll keep moisture up and prevent the tea from drying out. It won't help age the tea, but it'll stop it from tasting flat.
>His actual conclusion is clearly that tea is going to age like shit in places that don't have climates similar to sothern china
This is my experience as well, but storing tea for aging and storing tea just to keep it from degrading are two different goals.
>Yeah i read the post.
Then why did you bring up HK when it was specifically about storing tea in dry climates?
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Just to make sure we aren't talking past each other here when i say pumidor i just mean a closed box or whatever that will keep the tea from gettin below 50% humidity in my dry winters. I know people were working on crazy hotbox setups with 80% humidity and heaters but im not talking about that.
I actually have good luck just keeping my tea on a shelf in my living room for most of spring and summer because its hot and humid a lot of thr time. But during the winter humidity gets down to 35% or lower here
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>>18387164
>/tsg/ needs to stop telling people to spend money every time they have a problem.
I get what you are saying and generly agree with the concept but I think you are overstating the problem here.

For example I am totally comfortable saying heicha beginners don't need to worry about storage much besides generally keeping it sealed. However once they are interested in storage and have a sizable quantity of tea I don't see why not to mention things like Boveda packs. The people who may hesitate to spend a few bucks Boveda pack tend to be the same sort of people who would be most devastated if their whole tea stash got moldy and had to be tossed.

>more tea has been drunk from a box with a glass of water in it than you've ever seen.
I never seen anyone doing that. Too easy to spill. The typical cheap thing to do is to use broken ceramic shards in a cup with a spritz of water as ersatz humidity beads.

I also disagree with your accusation that /tea/ tends to push a lot of expensive gear to beginners. Typically the only thing I see pushed to true beginners is cheap strainers and gaiwans. I at least try to temper my recommendations based on the perceived experience level of the anon that asked for help. Do you truly think that if someone comes asking for a solution to a problem and that solution costs money we should just ignore them?
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>>18387478
>Then why did you bring up HK when it was specifically about storing tea in dry climates?
Because he lives in HK. Storing tea in Germany isint his problem. Saying don't worry about it is a very pragmatic thing to do when you run an english language tea blog mostly read by westerners. People wouldn't be happy if he just said live in HK if you want to store tea properly duh. But again he hasn't given it any thought because its not his problem.
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>>18387482
>Just to make sure we aren't talking past each other here when i say pumidor i just mean a closed box or whatever that will keep the tea from gettin below 50%
Okay, this isn't a pumidor. A pumidor is specifically a humidor for tea, humidors are temperature and humidity controlled. That's their defining feature.
If your tea used to be good and now tastes flat, it might have dried out. Sticking it in a higher humidity environment might re-envigorate it and help it taste good again. A way to create a higher humidity environment in minutes with zero tools is a glass of water or a wet paper towel in a box.

>>18387489
>I never seen anyone doing that. Too easy to spill.
Wow, your personal experience is surely representative of all of tea culture, you are very smart. I won't link you more posts that talk about sticking a glass of water in a cupboard or wherever because one should be plenty.
>However once they are interested in storage
We are not TALKING about storage, anon has seventy grams of a single tea that MIGHT not have been stored properly. If he had asked "How do I store all these cakes to keep them from drying out" I would have sent him to boveda packs. All I told him was a way to TEST if he needs to worry about storage in that could be done in three minutes with zero dollars with effectively no risk.
>if their whole tea stash got moldy and had to be tossed.
>>18386666
It's a fucking CRUMB of tea you retards, I'm sorry my advice doesn't generalize to literally all storage ever.
>I also disagree with your accusation that /tea/ tends to push a lot of expensive gear to beginners.
To be clear, if your first response is to tell someone who is curious that their last piece of a cake MIGHT have been stored too dry is to buy a hygrometer, you are retarded. You are almost unfixably retarded, and I will call you a retard every single time you post stupid advice like this.
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>>18387505
I don't know how this is something that you guys missed, but we are not talking about storing tea. We are talking about testing if he needs to adjust his storage. It might be totally fine, mylar bags are pretty good. Why the fuck would you buy boveda packs and a hygrometer to figure out that it actually doesn't matter at all, that you don't care about storage, and that you're just going to leave your tea in mylar bags and not worry about it, the way god intended.
>Hey I left my tea with a glass of water for a week and it's way better now! Great! What do I do?
Buy a bigger box and boveda packs. You don't need a hygrometer unless you're pushing ~75% RH at higher temperatures, but if you're storing ~$500 worth of tea then they're not that expensive for peace of mind.

>But it could SPIIIIIIIIILLLLLLL
Leaked footage of /tsg/ trying to pour a fucking glass of fucking water.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM4zMofsI7w
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>>18387478
>This is my experience as well, but storing tea for aging and storing tea just to keep it from degrading are two different goals.
>>18387505
>Okay, this isn't a pumidor.
Okay i see where the disconnect is.
We are basically in agreement that people in the west arent going to be aging tea and recreating something like traditional hk storage at home. That trying to do so is stupid and a good way to start a mold farm and that the goal of storing tea in the west is mostly to maintain its qualities and not to actually create the same conditions as some tea vendors warehouse.
We just have slightly different opinions on what that storage should be but not even significant ones.
Thanks anon, i need to look at how im using terms like pumidor compared to how other people are and try to more clearly articulate what the goals of storage should be in the west when im talking about tea storage.
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>>18387531
Yeah I said that to start.
>If you don't notice any issues with your tea, I wouldn't worry about storage. I'm not convinced anyone has successfully aged tea in synthetic storage, and I'm even less convinced that it's possible for it to be economical, compared to buying tea from a professional like the vampire or similar.
Tea aging in the west is a meme, I'm pretty sure it's impossible. Until I see someone actually do it, I'll continue to believe it's impossible.
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Is the condensation inside your pumidor a tea or a tisane?
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>>18387540
>Tea aging in the west is a meme, I'm pretty sure it's impossible. Until I see someone actually do it, I'll continue to believe it's impossible.
Lol some of those hotbox pumidors people have rigged up is good for a chuckle.
Anyway so what the hell do i call keeping tea in my living room? I associate the word storage with hk storage and also associate aging with the tea going through some sort of transformation. I guess something like home storage, i guess you could call it dry storage but i think that would confuse people too.
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>>18387572
If I'm talking about something I've had for a while, I'd just mention how long it's been in the west. I don't think it's too different from stuff that's been in Detroit for a long time, or whatever else NA vendors are doing. If you're not doing anything particular, yeah, I'd just call it home storage. It's gonna be dry storage pretty much no matter what, as much shit as Kunming gets for being too dry, it's moist and warm compared to NA or Europe. I don't think there will ever really be a word to refer to it, since it's not really desireable. The only reason anyone ever talks about HK storage or Guangdong storage or wherever is because it's marketable, it increases the value of the tea. Same with Gushu, and shengtai, only really became a thing once people started caring about pesticides and heavily pruned plantation tea.
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>>18387592
>. I don't think there will ever really be a word to refer to it, since it's not really desireable.
Yeah that makes sense, cheers anon
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Cheers, remember, as long as you're having fun you're doing it right.
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Brewing some of my raw puer crumbs blend, i think im up to 40-50 different teas mixed in here. I cleaned out my tea storage cooler earlier and really wanted to brew all the dist from the bottom but it just had too much pet hair in it.
Anyway my tea dust makes for a pleasing grampa style brew.
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>>18380575
I brew my own green tea and put it in insulated bottles because the bottled green tea isn't very good.
It's cheaper and tastier to drink green tea that way.
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>>18387660
Do you cold brew it or brew it hot and cool it down?
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>>18387649
Mmm brown water
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>>18387676
Extract slowly and slowly over time while cold
Place tea leaves in a large bottle, pour in cold water and refrigerate overnight
It will taste different from the usual
Slightly less caffeine
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>>18387505
>Wow, your personal experience is surely representative of all of tea culture
And yours is?
also I said:
>>18387489
>I never seen anyone doing that.
Not "nobody has ever done that and nobody could ever make it work". I just don't think unsecured open glasses of water are an ideal way to humidify a pumidor.

>We are not TALKING about storage, anon has seventy grams of a single tea
see
>>18387164
>People have been storing tea this way in the west for well over a decade, more tea has been drunk from a box with a glass of water in it than you've ever seen. It'll be fine, live life, take risks, reason with uncertainty.
Yes you were. I was replying your statements not anyone else's.

>It's a fucking CRUMB of tea you retards
Again, I was speaking broadly as a reply to your general statements. You may need to work on your reading comprehension.

>to tell someone who is curious that their last piece of a cake MIGHT have been stored too dry is to buy a hygrometer
Again, I never said that. I was not involved with original farmer leaf cake anon at all.

You do realize you are acting exactly like the angry puerh lesbian caricature right?
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>>18387849
Grumpy euro anon can be abrasive but he means well, don't take it personally.
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For those asking the current storage setup.
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Some Indian told me they drink Bamboo leaf tea in his village. Is it any good?
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>>18387972
Holy SHIT anon is that unsecured water!?!?!
EVERYBODY GET BACK
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>>18387660
I need to start buying Jap shit

Today Im gonna make a latte with rooibos tea
Then try chamomile because my friend said it helps with pain
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>>18387991
Rooibos is pretty good, honeybush is worth trying as well if you're looking for something a little different. I've had a lot of fun experimenting with chamomile, if you do shorter brews, around one minute, you can brew it at a much higher ratio than normal and get some interesting flavors out. If you have whole flowers, it's worth brewing it quite strong. Even if you don't end up liking it, it has a very unique flavor.
I dunno if I would say it helps with pain, I've consumed a huge quantity of chamomile before and it didn't do much. Around forty grams in a sitting, brewing it in 300mL at a time into a mug.
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this has been the best thread since the last flare up of tea/tisane discourse.
still laughing at hygrometer rec for half a cake
>/tsg/ doesnt push expensive gear on newbies
kek
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>>18388070
Until you spend >$100 on a toothbrush don't even bother drinking tea
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>>18388080
Might actually be good advice for some people here, do sonic toothbrushes help remove tooth patina?
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>>18380040
No you probably ordered the wrong stuff or got your ratios/ water temp wrong happens to the best of us. I prefer ocha and co Japanese matcha with 2 grams of tea mixed with 100 ml of 77.7 degree water.
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>>18381556
>>18381566
Just buy Ocha and co matcha directly from the Japanese it’s like 100 grams for 20 USD
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>>18378233
can someone tl;dr tea for me the paste is too long

I just want to drink tea in the cheapest and most clean ingredient fashion possible
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>>18387972
I been considering getting more Boveda packs and now I have decided to get them in honor of you anon.
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>>18388251
Buy a finum brew basket, buy this tea
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/2019-yunnan-old-tree-black-tea-dianhong-feng-qing-red-tea-cake-357g-p0593.html
Brew in a mug, 3-4 grams for 3-5 minutes
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>>18388251
If your only metrics are cheap, easy, and clean go to Amazon buy a tea strainer and whatever organic bulk bag loose leaf tea interests you. It's not going to be great quality but will still generally beat teabags.
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>>18388326
Hey I have that same tea strainer for my mug, it was 6 dollars and when you wash it it makes a cool whistling sound.
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Sometimes I can't brush my teeth because its family tradition that I hold my sisters legs while she breechs.
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First reply decides which one I open.
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I'm not very fond of black tea but it's the only thing I've got at the moment, matcha tea also has caffeine.
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>>18388494
Did you catch the 15% off sale?
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>>18388494
Top right
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>>18388494
how about your zipper sweetcheeks?
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>>18388539
Yup, I also got Earl Grey, breakfast blend, tea studio Nilgiri, Ceylon New Vithanakande
>>18388540
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>>18388551
Based, same. They have really good buyers, can't go wrong with a lot of their tea
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>>18388524
Give to me your pot
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>>18388295
Do those actually work? It just seems so fishy and fake looking.
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Hate to say this but it's pretty bland. It tastes like actual grass.
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>>18388070
Don't encourage them.
>>18388647
>fishy
It's perfect for puerh then.
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anyone know how to make ginseng tea? I got this stuff and it was super overpriced but it's rock hard. Do I grate it or try to dice it before infusing?
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>>18388647
>Do those actually work? It just seems so fishy and fake looking
Yeah they work, ive been using them for years, they were originally made for cigar humidors and they worth there too. If you want to complain about them the issues are that they are disposable and pricey if you don't shop around when buying them.
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>>18388737
If you have pruning shears you can cut them into chungs before brewing. Otherwise take about a half inch piece, stick it in a brew basket in a mug and fill the mug with boiling water, wait 15 minutes, drink the tea in the mug, then chop up the now soft root with a knife, then brew that for another 15 minutes, drink that tea and also eat the hydrated root pieces if the mood strikes you.
You could also boil a mug or twos worth of water on the stove, put a half inch piece in, tun the heat down to a low simmer, wait 10 minutes, take out the piece of root, chop it, throw it back in the pot, simmer another 10-15 minutes, then strain out the root pieces and drink. Its potent stuff, enjoy it
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Am I the only one who thinks young raw pure tastes like pusy?
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>>18388647
They really do work quite well if you get the right size but are kind of pricey if you need a bunch of them for different containers. I have a calibrated hygrometer and the Boveda packs are accurate in a sealed container. You can actually recharge them by putting them in a container with higher humidity then themselves. Not sure what you find suspicious about them. Again, my only real complaint is cost.

If you want to know the more technical explanation check out these guides for making DIY 2-way humidity regulators that work on the same principles.
https://www.teaforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=177&start=60
https://old.reddit.com/r/cigars/comments/hxy0r4/diy_two_way_humidity_packs_recipe_in_comments/
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>>18388841
No.
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I also opened the sample baggy of this stuff
https://camellia-sinensis.com/en/darjeeling-2nd-flush-seeyok/8474
Look at all those hairy little buds. Complex flavor, great stuff.
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>>18388852
Looks tasty
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I think that my tea autism just cost me a potential gf. There's this girl in one of my classes who always talks to me. She noticed that I'm constantly drinking tea and asked me about it. I told her that I was drinking a Taiwanese oolong and didn't think anything more of it. One day after class she went up to me looking very exited and handed me pic related. She told me she went to about a dozen Asian stores to find me a Taiwanese oolong because I'd mentioned that I liked them. I told her that it looked like a decent mass-market tea and then started rambling on about this great Alishan I just got from an oolong specialist. She listened for about 30 seconds before apologizing and running away. The tea was actually delicious.
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>>18388677
how did you brew it?
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>Hey, where'd you get that oolong you gave me?
>Why?
>It was really good, I wanted to know where I could get more
Anon it is literally that easy. If she seems excited, offer to buy her lunch / tea as thanks. What are you doing.
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someone put me onto some teas please maybe something sweet? I'm a noob on this stuff I just drink a lot of tea my favourites are black tea, rooibos, and jasmine. :)
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>>18388930
ISO style. Despite the aggressive steep and how bud heavy it is it's surprisingly low on bitterness/astringency. Delicate and perfumy.
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>>18388921
If your story is true, just do what >>18388956
said next time you see her and ask her out. This girl is obviously obsessed with you. I was fortunate enough to date a girl like that back in my day and in some ways it was the most fun I’ve ever had in any relationship. Don’t let your anxieties get the best of you and talk to her. Ask if she’d like to grab lunch/coffee/tea/study, whatever seems most approachable for you.

Seriously, don’t pussy out.
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>>18388921
Unrequited love
Feelings discarded like trash
Regret grows inside
The oolong was after all
Actually delicious
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>>18388930
Oops, I just noticed you replied to the green tea. I followed their instructions at first then I tried again with 50ml less water and an extra minute which I know works well. I'll probably try decreasing the ratio more next time.
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>>18388961
Try some cheap white tea, bai mudan or silver needles.
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Do you try pairing tea to food? Or do you just drink whatever you feel like at that moment?
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>>18389104
Black tea and pastries is a pretty good combo, also baked goods. But i don't usually pair tea and food, i just eat and then make tea or vice versa. At the risk of sounding snobby i don't want the foos im eating to interfere with the taste of the tea im drinking
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Finally busting out the snoozefest for some test runs with the switch. Someone talk me out of buying a tong of the next batch.
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>>18389104
Fu Cha and greasy meats, like bacon
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Got this today
Extremely smooth and a bit mild, pretty nice
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>>18389486
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>>18389486
Dope. Have you tried any others from Ippodo?
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>>18389546
Yeah this is the 5th one I've had form them, I couldn't easily remember the other 4 I've had. This is probably the 2nd best one I had, it's a bit mild but the smoothness is really nice
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>>18389402
Where where you when i was trying to convince myself to put in a w2t order?
Anyway i don't think buying a tong is necessarily a bad idea but i would probably buy 1-2 cakes of several of their releases just to make sure i had some variety.
Have you tried tuhaoAF?
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>>18389522
Beautiful
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>>18378233
can i get some nice spiced tea brands?
i have very little experience with tea in general though i know you should use distilled water when steeping
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>>18387972
This guy again.
I pulled some of the broken pieces out of the bin this morning. Doesn't seem different so far. Mellow flavor, definitely not like the cranberry club soda like flavor it was when I first pulled it out. Maybe it just fermented too much already.
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>>18390237
>can i get some nice spiced tea brands?
https://www.vahdam.com/
They make some good chai blends that are reasonably priced
Your grocery store probably sells constant comment which is nice, especially in winter
Don't use distilled water for tea, use spring water (or just use tap water) distilled water makes tea taste weird. Anyway you really don't need to worry about using special water unless your tap water tastes disgusting or you collect fancy teas or something.
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>>18390329
It will take a few days to pick up some moisture.
Anyway what year was it pressed? Was it pretty fresh when you first got it? It's reasonably likely that it was just processed in a way that really accentuated the fresh tea and now that its getting a bit older it doesn't have those very young green notes. But give it a few days and see what happens. Sometimes the best thing to do for a tea that tastes a bit bland it to seal it up and forget about it for a while.
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>>18389522
Where do I find matcha for retards so I don't have to waste any?
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>>18390344
Autumn 2021,so about a year old when it was pressed.
IDK shit about pu'er but it was pretty bombastic compared to all the ripe shit I've had before.
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So for shit and giggles I put my geiger counter to my green tea. It was gunpowder green and I bought the box from tea shop, still had chinese symbols on it.
It is 5 times stronger than background radiation in my room.
Should I be worried ?
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>>18390350
Yeah ripe has it's place but its totally different from a nice raw. I really gotta try some farmer leaf stuff it sounds nice
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>>18390354
That means its working
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>>18390354
Uh.... Bros? Do I need to test my tea? Wtf.
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>>18390360
>>18390364
I well to make you more paranoid I have tested also gunpowder green from Twinings brand, that one didnt glow at all.
The whole reason I bought the other box is because it was cheaper and bigger.
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>>18390329
>>18390344
Yeah, you're gonna need to leave it for about a week. Honestly, I'd be surprised if anything crazy happens, fruity notes are one of the things that tend to disappear after the first few years.
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>>18390345
I don't understand your question
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Drink more tea
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>>18390412
I think he is asking where he can get cheap matcha so he doesn't have to worry about fucking it up by preparing it wrong
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>>18390425
the cheap awful stuff at the organic store in town
It's not good, but it's cheap
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>>18388961
Seconding white tea, it's a reliably sweet category. If you're big on blacks it's worth checking out ripe pu'er (don't get the cheapest stuff please) or higher roast oolongs like da hong pao. Among herbals, try mint, chamomile, licorice, lemongrass, lemon balm, hawthorn, bilberry leaf, and honeybush and GREEN rooibos if you haven't had them.
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Okay Im working on rewritng the puer storage section for the pastebin, how does this look?
>Pu erh: Its best to store in a cabinet or on a shelf away from direct sunlight. Pu erh, like any tea, picks up smells easily so avoid storing it near anything with a strong scent. You can store in pretty much anything as long as your pu erh won't pick up the scent.
>You will not be aging tea at home and getting the results of some humid Hong Kong tea warehouse. The goals of storing puer at home should be to protect the tea from strong odors and to keep it from getting too dry or too wet. You want to keep the moisture level in the cake over 45% and below 65% give or take. There are a few ways to accomplish this, One of the easiest is carefully wrapping the tea in several layers of plastic wrap, this will help maintain the humidity in dry climates but It is annoying if you want to access that particular tea regularly. Another popular method is storing the tea in some kind of plastic container or cooler, you can add some boveda 58% humidity packs to keep the tea from drying out, this method leaves the tea more accessible if you are going to be drinking it regularly. Depending on your climate you can also just leave the tea on a shelf somewhere.
>Avoid storing tea in a high humidity environment like a damp basement or bathroom and in general, check for bugs and signs of pests trying to get in to your stash (nibbled wrappers, spider web, etc).
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Aging puer
>buy special cabinet
>wrap everything in plastic wrap
>carefully manage humidity
Aging oolong
>buy a bunch of little baggies
>forget about them
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>>18388921
tung ding can be really good. be sure to tell her it was great
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>>18390354
I mean, I'm pretty sure if you put it to yourself you'll get 5x more than background radiation too, so I wouldn't worry about it
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>>18390660
you should add a ps about the dangers of unsecured containers of water
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>>18390741
Yes, aging oolong is much less effort. Especially if you buy it in the little single serving baggies. Its a little more effort if you buy loose bulk oolong.
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>>18390741
Every teahouse has an "aged dahongpao" that came from a crate they forgot was in their basement for 30 years.
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>>18390660
>You want to keep the moisture level in the cake over 45% and below 65% give or take
RH is pretty hard because it isn't an absolute measure of moisture, it's a holdover from meteorology where we really only care about condensation and rain. 65% RH at 50F and 80F are extraordinarily different moisture levels. Personally I'd say 45% is quite low at room temperature. The only people who are getting mold on their teas are pushing them really hard at ~75% or over and high temperatures, or don't have enough insulation and their sealed storage loses temperature too fast, and has no way to exchange air the the RH spikes.
I'd pretty confidently say that if you can hold 70% RH you're gonna get no mold, I wouldn't worry unless you're thinking about crossing that mark. If you can keep your tea at a high temperature (70-80F), you're in a much better place overall in terms of avoiding mold, since humidity swings won't be as severe, because they require more water in absolute terms.

Now that I think about it, I probably wouldn't make any changes to your post. If people aren't gonna read about this stuff on their own, they're gonna mess it up. 65% RH is fine, although under 50 is getting to "drying out" territory imo.
Ever thought about a wiki? Might be easier to organize than the pastebin, it's getting pretty big.
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>>18383958
Beat me to it.
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>>18390885
Yeah i don't really disagree with your comment but im trying to keep things simple. If people want to get deeper understanding of this stuff then they can research it further. I just want somebody who buys a cake or two to be able to look at my post and not thrash their tea in the short term.
This does remind me that i should mention avoiding dramatic temperature swings due to the risk of condensation.
>ever thought about a wiki?
Too powerful for me, i should use rentry but then i would have to learn markdown
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>>18390660
my suggestions are probably kind of nitpicky or excessive so do with (or don't do with) them what you will. I feel like to properly explain some of this stuff you would need to expand the section a bit but it would not be fair to ask you to do it because I am too lazy to do it myself.

>You will not be aging tea at home and getting the results of some humid Hong Kong tea warehouse.
the way that is written makes it sounds like Hong Kong storage is the only correct way to age puerh which I at least don't agree with. If it were me i would probably reword things slightly.

>You want to keep the moisture level in the cake over 45% and below 65% give or take.
>boveda 58% humidity packs
58% packs is probably not a bad for extra cautious recommendation but I personalty use 65%. 65% (or even even a bit higher) humidity appears to be safe for long term sealed storage so long as you don't have rapid large temperature fluctuations which could cause dew. Though I figure the last point is probably why you picked 58% because they allow for a greater margin of safety. Also I presume you just did not want to mention the concept of dew point at all.

>check for bugs and signs of pests trying to get in to your stash (nibbled wrappers, spider web, etc).
You could add hard freezing for a week is an an effective way to kill pests you just need to watch out for condensation on the defrost. Probably not necessary though as pests in stored puerh don't seem very common if you keep it sealed. Also for the sort of bugs that are most likely to actually eat your tea (cigarette beetle, drugstore beetle, or certain dermestid beetles) frass (bug poop) is probably going to be you first sign besides the beetles themselves and possibly a few small holes in the wrapper.

I doubt any of this is very useful but I spent far too much time typing it up to not post it.
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Okay I rewrote the entry to make it less complicated.
>Pu erh: The easiest way to store puer is to put it in a plastic bag in a cabinet or on a shelf away from direct sunlight at room temperature in a place without dramatic temperature swings between day and night. Pu erh, like any tea, picks up smells easily so avoid storing it near anything with a strong scent. For longer term storage you want to keep the moisture level in the cake over 45% and below 65% give or take. There are a few ways to accomplish this, One of the easiest is carefully wrapping the tea in several layers of plastic wrap, this will help maintain the humidity in dry climates but it is annoying if you want to access that particular tea regularly. Another popular method is storing the tea in some kind of plastic container or cooler, you can add some boveda 58% humidity packs to keep the tea from drying out, this method leaves the tea more accessible if you are going to be drinking it regularly.
>See also
>https://teadb.org/low-barrier-puerh-storage-solutions-for-casual-puerh-drinkers/
>If you want to keep puer long term look into the information on teadb.org about puer storage and do some research about how western collectors store their tea.
>https://teadb.org/puerh/
>>18390972
thanks for the feedback.
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>>18390923
Perhaps you could add a table of contents with searchable headers like an old school game faq if the thing gets too long.
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>>18390972
>58% packs is probably not a bad for extra cautious recommendation but I personalty use 65%. 65% (or even even a bit higher) humidity appears to be safe for long term sealed storage so long as you don't have rapid large temperature fluctuations which could cause dew. Though I figure the last point is probably why you picked 58% because they allow for a greater margin of safety. Also I presume you just did not want to mention the concept of dew point at all.
Yeah personally i have been happy with 58% packs though i have used higher percentage ones in the past. This summer my cooler got up to around 65% RH with 58% boveda packs in there.
>bugs
I just removed the part about bugs, if people are keeping that much tea they need to look into this stuff themselves.
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>>18390984
Yeah i had that same idea the other day. It might help things a bit.
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This afternoon im having a ripe dayi teabag i got from somewhere. Unlike the last ripe tea bags i had which were sealed in thin paper these were seald in plastic pouchee and had some fishy ripe aroma when sniffing the teabag.
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>>18391019
Eh its okay, i should have rinsed the teabag. There is a good ripe flavor but it still has some pile taste and odor on top of it.
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Now i just have to fix the terrible brewing times and temps guide that i was supposed to fix this spring and the pastebin will be in kind of okay shape.
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>>18388921
This is the worst secondhand embarrassment I have had in years. I felt like I had hives.
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What's the most "euphoric" tea? I imagine its some kind of expensive Japanese green tea but I don't have money to blow on that
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>>18391155
I don’t know what teas will make you an atheist. Kudingcha might put the fear of God back in you.
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>>18388921
Jesus Christ, anon.
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>>18391155
Most of the teas that have a reputation for cha qi are pretty pricey.
This is probably one of the cheaper ways you can get "old tree" tea in a smaller quantity.
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/2020-haiwan-high-quality-shen-puer-quotcang-cuiquot-raw-puer-brick-use-old-trees-material-yunnan-150g-box-p0712.html
If that's out of your budget you can try this, but it's less likey to be particularly old tree in origin.
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/xiaguan-2012-tuo-cha-jing-mai-ancient-tea-raw-puer-cha-100g-pcs-p0341.html
Anyway this is assuming you want to drink puer. And also assuming yhat tea from older trees is more likely to have that sort of effect. But i don't really know what else i could recommend
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>>18391247
What's in the bowl on the lower right? Snacks?
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>>18391252
Wait, I think they're teacups...? What are the three in the middle for then?
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>>18378233
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>>18391252
>What's in the bowl on the lower right? Snacks?
slop bowl
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>>18391269
Oh the lower right, it looks like a steamed bun or something, the big bowl on the right is a slop bowl, the plate in the middle has cups in it.
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>>18390046
I have not. I'd put in an order now but I really don't have/shouldn't make the space for more tea. I like nice cheap curated piles and $75 of snoozefest just might have a spot there after last nights cups. I'd need the tasting wheel to pull out any real descriptors, but it was very mellow, thick, mildly green, and way smoother than I thought only having a few months age. I can see how people piss themselves every black friday over it. Bretty gud.
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>>18391311
It is nice to buy cheap tea and feel like you got more thqn your moneys worth.
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>>18378233
>whisk gently

Fuck that.
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>>18391512
Based
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>>18388921
you could have married her and had three beautiful tea drinking kids



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