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Why do whisky drinkers always try to describe the flavor using random shit?

>apple
>pear
>raisins
>toffee
>wood
>vanilla
>butter
>smoke
>sea salt
.......

It just tastes like fucking whisky to me.
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>He can't taste a full thanksgiving dinner in his whisky
I'm sorry anon...
You're...
Never gonna make it...
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Ardbeg tastes like Maker's Mark to you?
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>>15904402
Because those are the flavour components.
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>>15904449
No, the flavour componets are alcohol and wood.
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>>15904402
Because whiskey is the choice drink of nu-males
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>>15904402
>smell. *sniffffffffff* *SNORRRRFFFF* mmm, pungent, almost tar-like scent...do I detect notes of salty sea breeze?
>colour. *swish swish*...hold it up to light...yep. golden sunburnt amber. Beautiful...
>Taste. *shlorrrppp* *slurpp* *swolsh swolsh swolsh* *phwwwoooh* Peaty...woody....do I detect a bit of earthiness? Hmm no, it's more of a gravelly bite....the aftertaste is arriving now...mmm okay charcoal overtones with a more subtle tang of citrus notes....this is a classic Speysider, it has a slightly more velvety body than the Highlanders
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>>15904937
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>>15904402
Say what you will, but enjoying alcohol for the flavors it can offer rather than as drunk juice is a good way to avoid becoming an alcoholic
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>>15904954
That sounds like perfectly alcoholic reasoning to me.
Alcohol tastes terrible. You drink it for the effect and not the flavours. If people enjoyed the flavours and not the effect, they would drink non alcoholic whisky, which isn’t a thing, and never will be a thing, because people have no interest in drinking whiskey without alcohol in it. Just admit it so we can overcome the bug man pretentiousness.
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>>15904402
Drink more
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>>15904402
this nigga has to fill an entire bible
every year
he can't just go this one tastes like bog, this one tastes like tree for 40 million whiskeys
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If you can't taste different flavors than you either have a destroyed tongue/mouth or the palate of a literal baby or are drinking bottom shelf shit that is probably 100% grain alcohol mixed with dirty woodchips then watered down and sold for 90p a gallon.

imagine actually be so fucking stupid and retarded you can't detect different smells/tastes/flavors in a drink. Don't even need to get expensive shit, even good 50-60 dollar bottles can have good and complex flavor
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>>15905022
He has the face of an alcoholic.
-t alcoholic
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I cant taste the fruits in the average whiskey but scotch especially has strong woodsmoke/brine flavors
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>>15905041
>alcohol
>complex flavours
Can I interest you in some hand-crafted, artisanal, cannabis tincture? It’s called “strawberry cough.” Because when you cough, it tastes like strawberries!
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This one tastes like Fast to Dissolve Paint Thinner from Jasco, this other one tastes like KBS Coatings 6500 Thinner.
And here's a 1965 vintage old shit that tastes like Betco AXIT PLUS Stripper
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>>15904528
Pot stills do not deliver just ethanol and water. There's fusal alcohols, esters and other aromatic compounds.
Wood contains may flavour compounds, for example limousine oak contains vanillin and Syringaldehyde.
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>>15905096
I’ve drank enough hand sanitizer, mouthwash, and rubbing alcohol to know the difference
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>>15905002
If alcohol isn't in it, then it can't extract flavors from the mash or barrel. It is a solvent, after all.
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>>15905002
You're partially correct. I think the real answer lies between our two arguments. Alcohol does taste bad, but humans have found a way to make it taste beautiful in many ways.
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>>15904937
kek
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>>15904402
>t.pleb
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>I have no sophistication to my palate so everybody else must be faking
Sure is manbaby in here.
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>>15905249
I am an alcoholic and I just mix it with sugary drinks. Not because of the taste but because it allows me to consume more in a shorter time period. In the end we’re drinking for the effect, but if you want to enjoy the subtle taste of different wood shavings or charcoal I guess that’s up to you.
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>>15904402
well you are supposed to mix your whiskey with apple juice so you can too tast the apple
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>>15904402
Whisky is not a flavor which is why you use "random shit"
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>>15905323
Most people really are faking. Not that it cant be enjoyable, but we're succeptible to priming. You can tell someone that a whisky tastes like butterscotch and tell another person that same whisky has a cinnamon taste and they'll both miraculously "spot" the note/flavor. Most people just taste the harshness of the booze, the wood, and subtle sweetness if applicable (like bourbons).
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>>15904528
Oh right? Corn whisky doesn't taste of corn? Tell me what wood tastes of? Does oak taste the same as maple? What if ive heated the wood to 400F for three hours?
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>>15905362
In the end YOU are drinking for the effect. Don't speak for the people who kept their consumption in check. I wish there were beverages as intensely flavored, complex, and satisfying as the wine, beer, or hard alcohol Ive tried, but there aren't. Alcohol is always hedonistic, but does it need to be hedonistic in the mind numbing way by getting trashed or can it be used in a mind exciting way through good wine pairings, high quality alcohol etc?
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>>15905425
Keep telling yourself that, bud
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>he adds water and/or ice to his whisk(e)y
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Raylon Givens said it best that bourbon tastes like a warm summers day.
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>he can't taste the banana sundae in Jack Daniel's Select

I like how drinking the stereotypically most masculine spirit is considered soi now on /ck/
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> fucking drank himself stupid.

He used to do decent, concise whisky reviews. Now he has 20 minute videos babbling on about the NWO, fake news, and q-anon-tier bullshit. He has slurred speech and drools on himself too.
He used to warn his viewers about slipping in to alcoholism and justifying it as a hobby ...... But that's exactly what he's done. Sad.
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>I can win against this strawman, he has to run out of wojaks eventually
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>>15905454
Usually I will try it straight then after a few sips I'll add a couple drops of water at most to see how it changes. It's generally agreed upon alcohol tastes best or has the most flavor at 35-40% abv. There are some very good bourbons that are 65% abv, but are as smooth as an inferior 40%.
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>>15905573
>20 minute videos babbling on about the NWO, fake news, and q-anon-tier bullshit
based
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i'm getting more of a seared whiskeritis
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>>15904937
Underrated
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>>15905666
>alcohol has the most flavor at 35-40% ABV
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>>15905666
>It's generally agreed upon alcohol tastes best or has the most flavor at 35-40% abv.
This is how I know you take way too big of sips.
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>>15905666
not today satan
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>>15904440
he said whisky, not your faggy sugar syrup.
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>>15906359
>>15906416
Try it out. Get a decent scotch and put a few drops of water in. You will notice that it usually enhances the aroma and flavors.
We are drinking booze here, so it really is a preference, but it is worth trying considering how it's such a widely agreed upon thing...
At higher proofs the alcohol flavor can block out some of the subtler nuances.

Barrel proof bourbon is semi meme tier, but a good one can be smooth at very high proof
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>>15906602
>enhances
Changes, by making guaiacol float to the top, where it is quickly consumed, leaving the rest of the dram with limp dick aroma and flavor.
>At higher proofs the alcohol flavor can block out some of the subtler nuances.
...if you're taking too big of sips, which you clearly are.
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>>15906613
My sips have nothing to do with the matter. I promise you.

There's much more than one change of one molecule going on when you add water to alcohol. Water dissolving with ethanol to produce a small amount of heat releasing more aromatic compounds? It's a fair point I suppose, but over simplistic.
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>>15906602
You're replying to a 12 year old who lurked a few whisky reddit pages
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>>15906633
To be fair what he's bitching about isn't even a chemical change, no chemistry has been done, it's purely physics.
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>>15906664
Chemistry is physics
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>>15906648
I googled this out of curiosity and the first link is where he's getting his info from. It is such a funny phenomena how everyone one this website seems to be masters at whatever they're talking about and anyone else is a complete brainlet. >>15906664
You are correct about changing densities, but there is an exothermic reaction when you mix water and ethanol.
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My reaction to a sip of 40% ABV spirits these days is analogous to a woman saying "is it in yet?"
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>>15904402
It's the same for any consoomer "hobby" where useless faggots cling to taste instead of creativity and skill to scrounge up some kind of perceived status. I like to try out different bourbons; but let's be real, it's the exact same as trying different energy drinks or mtn dew flavors.
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>>15905666
Optimal flavor is at 22% ABV
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Optimal flavor is obviously at 57% ABV.
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>>15904937
a hearty kek
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>>15906897
once I'm done with my rare breed I'm getting another bottle of this, I like it better desu
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>>15904945
I literally just bought this today and i love it.
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>>15905070
I'm not really sure what the fuck you re trying to say, but different strains of cannabsi do in fact smell/taste different, again due to differences in various compounds present from one to the other.

Why are you so dead set on their not being different smells and tastes in things?
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>>15905397
Wrong. Dumbass.
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>>15906897
>>15907074
mah Jim Beam niggas
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>>15906897
>>15907074
Admit it. You like the BWC (big white cork).
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>>15908130
I posted that image just for you, anon.
Honestly, my first thought upon my first bottle of OGD 114 was "shit, this shit is so fucking manly even the cork is manly." It kicks like a mule but fuckin' ay it's a flavor explosion in a bottle.
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>>15904402
because whiskyfags are consoomer manchildren
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>>15908138
It's a big cork, isn't it? I asked here previously if there were any other liquor bottles with such a big cork, but I didn't receive any replies.

Also, I just happened to have been drinking some OGD114 earlier tonight during dinner.
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>>15908138
I'm new to alcohol and I've only had Dickel's bottled in bond and it was pretty good.

Would you recommend this OGD shit to a retard like me or nah?
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>>15908360
I recommend it to everyone with two testicles who is attracted to women.
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>>15908319
aberlour has a pretty thicc cork I believe
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>>15904402
wood vanilla and smoke is by no means random descriptions lol
they literally are aged in WOODEN barrels and SMOKED no idea where the vanilla comes from but it do be tasty
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>>15905002
what is non alcoholic gin?
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>>15909127
>no idea where the vanilla comes from
Wood
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>>15904402
way to out yourself as an uncultured swine.
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>mfw i'm spending a $120 a week on scotch and i've never been happier
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>>15904402
Because, they are likely whisky sellers trying to advertise product, or self described "connoisseurs" who make bank off of how much they "know" about whisky. Otherwise, they are assholes, and they are to be ignored.
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>>15906897
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>>15904548
That's gin
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>>15909177
proofs?
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Allright guys, I am thinking of getting either the lagavulin 16, tallisker 10 or ardbeg 10. Never had any of them before. What would you recommend?
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I really like booze. I used to drink a lot of cheap shit just to get drunk and graduated to decent beer and then wine and craft beer and then I started getting really into spirits. The common factor in all fans of alcohol is they like to get fucking drunk. The flavour matters, I'd rather drink something I like and I will come up with all sorts of ritualistic behaviour to slow down and justify my drinking, but ultimately I want to feel the impact of alcohol. Others might not see it like that, but they more than likely still drink too much. The vast majority of people barely drink. Like they toast at weddings and maybe get a bottle of wine for an anniversary dinner. Of those that do frequently drink most drink far too much. It is a distribution where like, the top 5% of drinkers drink 50+ drinks a week, it escalates really damn quickly from barely, to infrequently, to too much, to a dangerous amount, to how the fuck are you still alive?

Anyway. I prefer lighter spirits because whisky can be ridiculously complex and difficult to drink. You don't want to mix it with anything because it spoils all the different flavours, but holy shit is it hard going. Can't drink enough of it fast enough to get buzzed. Last single malt I drank was bottled 58%. It is challenging.

DESU I prefer any light spirt shaken as a simple sour. Lime, simple syrup, maybe a dash of bitters, triple sec, or elderflower cordial if I'm feeling frisky. Sometimes a reposado tequila.
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>>15904402
whisky, like all liquor over 30% tastes like... alcohol. stop being pretentious
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>>15904402
If you can't at the very least taste wood in alcohol that has been aged in wooden barrels your tongue doesn't work.
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>>15909254
>That's gin
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>>15910226
The taste is lost on you because you’re doing it wrong.
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>why do people describe flavors as flavors
Because describing them as colors or radio frequencies would be silly?
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>>15910527
>i'm part of a higher caste called "le supertasters"
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Because thats what happens when you pay attention to what you drink instead of just swallowing it like a bitch to prevent feeling the burn
Fermentation creates a lot of compounds, manny of which are found in other things and thus why people describe them that way. It is not entirely correct to say that it tastes like X, a more conservative way of expressing it is that it reminds you of something

>>15910537
>MMM, I can really feel that benzaldehyde in this amaretto
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>>15909333
Ardbeg, obviously, because Diageo ruined the other two.
Diageo, not even once.
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>>15908360
It's a great whisky but it might be a bit harsh on someone new. Work your way up to it, I would say.
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>>15909313
between 90 and 100 on average
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>>15910930
ardbeg literally belongs to a handbag manufacturer
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>>15910930
this
>>15911067
2 cents were deposited into your account
sincerely
diageo
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>>15911067
its a satchel
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I'm new to whiskey, what are some brands I should try?

I just got this, gonna try some tonight.
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>>15911449
a little bit of everything until you know what you like
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>>15911449
so you went straight for the 10 year?
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>>15911788
Yes, I liked this stuff a lot so it shouldn't be much worse alcohol wise
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>>15911449
If you liked that, try their rye. I got a taste for it since I had a lot of it so I might be biased though.
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>>15911917
is it true it tastes like pickles
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>>15911931
I never picked that up but I never really had a fantastic palate to begin with. It's really good to make a Manhattan with though; just get some sweet vermouth and bitters and experiment with mixing.
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>>15911931
just a little but in a good way
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>>15908407
ayy I have that exact same scotch and it's bretty good. Really like the THICC bottle too, feels nice in hand.
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>>15904937
well played anon. Everything a cucked libtard soi boi does is automatically seems lame by association.

Do libtards really drink whiskey? Does drinking whiskey help orcs, the enviro, science or the skaven?
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>>15905573
>>15905686

yeah calling out the clown cult is bossanova
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>>15905573
i like his personality but his reviews aren't good desu
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You have brain worm if you want to taste wood in your drink
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*schrwosh schrwosh schrwosh schrwosh*
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>>15911449
Try out a cheap bottle of rye whiskey to see if you like it, either Bulleit again or even Wild Turkey makes a decent one for cheap. If you like either of those give High West Double Rye a shot.

Elijah Craig and Four Roses Single Barrel are some of my favorite bourbons, a bit pricier than Bulleit but definitely worth it. Four Roses does have cheaper bottles but I would avoid anything that isn't Single Barrel.
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>>15905041
Alcohol tastes like burning, ouchie ouchie



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