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Why don't zoomers drink coffee?
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>>14499917
coffee is boomer cringe because it exploits brown people and transporting it across the world produces co2 like a mo'fukka. thankfully, the european parliament is working on a resolution to make coffee less available.
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>>14499917
That ain’t coffee, it’s dirty water.

Where’s the creamy foam? Where’s the gradient?

Looks like shit
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They do, just not the way you do
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we do, retard
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>>14499925
>coffee is boomer cringe
Yeah, but not because of what you said. It's more the collective
>I need two cups each morning or I'm a zombie all day long haha
addiction and praising it as some holy fucking God juice. I got shit on in university because I didn't drink coffee.
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>>14499917
Zoomies won't touch anything that hasn't had a kilo of sugar tipped into it.
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>>14499947
That's called joking, autist. They don't actually go insane from not having coffee.
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I understand coffee as an ingredient
I even understand coffee as a base for making drinks

but I will never understand coffee as a drink on its own. It just doesn't taste good man. It's bitter but not even in the way beer has a floral character, its bitter in an acrid burnt way
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>>14499917
It's burnt bean water
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Because they’re fags
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>>14499917
But they do.
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>>14499960
as a regular coffee drinker, it is a dependence thing though. If you go caffeine free from a few weeks you don't need it in the morning anymore and if you do have it you get a head rush. Whereas if you're drinking it every day, you need it in the morning because part of the haze is caffeine withdrawal. I cut coffee out for about a year but came back to it just because I enjoy it. Now i'll only drink it 3-4 times a week and only have one cup in a given day.
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>>14499969
stop buying dogshit cheap coffee and burning it, then.
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>>14499917
We don't need to be addicted to caffeine because we got adderall
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>>14499917
shut your argentinean mouth you fucking sorry sack of shit
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>>14499937
“Here’s your iced chocolate or caramel milk with some coffee I guess”

Starbucks is fucking hilarious.
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>>14499917
They drink iced (((coffee))) that has 70g of sugar added and is more like a hazelnut milkshake than actual coffee. Absolutely haram
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>>14499917
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>>14499969
Gonna lay a truth bomb on you that most coffee snobs don't want to acknowledge.
Coffee is a stimulant, that's the main purpose is serves, something you drink when you need a "pick me up" when you're tired/exhausted. Literally every fancy method of making coffee has just been an attempt at trying to make coffee slightly more palatable and then tricking yourself into thinking it's good. Just add milk and sugar to that shit to make it decent and drop the pretense, you'll be happier.
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20y drink my coffee black
20 is zoomer right?
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>>14501252
sure whatever
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>>14501238
Coffee snobs drink coffee black anon, you're arguing against a position that doesn't exist.
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>>14501238
>Literally every fancy method of making coffee has just been an attempt at trying to make coffee slightly more palatable and then tricking yourself into thinking it's good.
Literally the most idiotic of logics here. Applying this same logic, meat is disgusting, otherwise so many methods wouldn't be used to cook it. Architecture? Nobody likes it, otherwise there wouldn't be that many styles. At least you put a spin to the classic "e-everyone pretendspretenda to like it" cope you manchildren always resort to.
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>>14501238
Just letting you know - you are a moron with the palate of a child, likely doesn't understand how proper brew ratios and extraction works, and you probably never had specialty coffee properly brewed with water chemically suited for the brewing process.

What I'm saying is - you are a pleb and should kill yourself, philistine.
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Coffee is useless. You drink coffee every day and your life is still the same as if you never had any. Any pleasure you gain from it is lost once it becomes a routine.
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>>14499969
>It's bitter
So you had over extracted coffee (not brewed properly) and you came to the conclusion that coffee is shit.

Good knowing you're a moron just like -> >>14499969.

Coffee that's not stale and brewed properly will never taste bitter, unless it was roasted like shit (think very dark french roast which destroys all of the essential oils of coffee). Basically you guys literally have no idea of what you're talking about.

It's not about being a "snob" either - it's just that coffee is indeed too complex for most people for several reasons. I don't know why I bother though, it always falls in deaf ears so whatever.
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who else /mixesrawcaffinepowderwithjuice/
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>>14501309
>N-no, coffee is actually really good on it's own if you follow these 78 steps and use scientifically calibrate import water
See what I mean?
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>>14499917
too busy drinking GamerFuel
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>>14501402
I enjoy the taste of Mexican instant coffee I brew in a kettle with tap water.
Enjoy being a pleb.
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>>14499917
Zoomers do drink coffee though. Now, I've never in my entire life seen a zoomer drink tea, and if they do it's iced sweet tea.
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>>14501429
Tea is just substitute coffee for bongs.
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>>14501331
Can you snort it?
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For me, it's cowboy coffee
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>>14501309
>coffee properly brewed with water chemically suited for the brewing process.
Man the fuck up and stop being a hipster faggot just drink your coffee and that’s that.
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>>14501238
>I’m such a retard that I can’t fathom that different people have different tastes and some may actually like the thing I don’t like.
Fuck sake anon...
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I would drink coffee if it was cold as fuck out. I always liked taking a hot as cup of coffee on my drive to work in the winter. But never drank it in the summer also, I got off the energy drinks with these.
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>>14500358
>one of the drinks is literally just coldbrew with ice
Why do boomers think they're above and beyond Starbucks?
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>>14501315
same with anything faggot
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>>14501402
>>14501739
>literally proving you are indeed a pleb

So I take it you also only eat instant noodles and fried rice.
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>>14501402
>if you follow these 78 steps

To be precise - four steps

Proper brew ratio - not hard, unless you dropped out of 5th grade, giving that you're likely a negro, I won't blame you here

Proper grind size - again, just adjust for whatever method you're using

Water - you can actually find proper mineral water (as long as you look at the mineral content) in most supermarkets that will be suitable.

Quality beans - basically grind them yourself, and make sure they're not too fresh or stale.

I guess these 4 TREMENDOUSLY STELLAR ROCKET SURGERY steps are really hard for the average pleb to go through though. Surely that means, coffee is indeed shit.
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>>14502077
given*
English not first language, etc.
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>drinking molecules
Enjoy your cancer
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>>14499936
stop poncing around and have your coffee as nature intended. 100% bean water
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>>14499960
If you understood that as being meant seriously despite the
>haha
at the end, you are the autist here. It means those coffee junkies spouting that shit are insufferable.
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>>14499917
I'm a zoomer, 20. Coffee doesn't do shit to wake me up. It makes my heart beat really fast while the rest of my body is still tired. Pic related.
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>>14502594
>>>wsg/3568964
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>>>/wsg/3568964
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>>14499917
I don't drink coffee or energy drinks because they are bad for your heart, unnaturally messing with the rhythm.
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I seriously doubt coffee will ever go away. People will be drinking this stuff 500 years later.
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>>14499925
That might just spark Finland leaving the EU.
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>>14503265
Rest assured that England was the first and last country to leave the EU.
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>>14502594
21
same effect for me to a degree. yet standing 12hr watches underway I need something to keep me up.
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>>14503277
Idk, man. The way things are headed, I wouldn't be surprised if it collapsed during my lifetime. Perhaps it'd be for the better.
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>>14503277
Btw, the United Kingdom, not England. London is a shit place to live.
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>>14503252
How is it unnatural? Coffee grows in nature. By your logic running is also unnatural. Do you not ru- nevermind. I know the answer.
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>>14501900
Not with sex, achievement, reading, exercising, or any other genuinely worthwhile activity.

I mean sure, I agree, if you smoke tobacco or weed, drink alc, do stimulants every day it becomes not only utterly meaningless but also worthless, it doesn't even do anything for you anymore. But those are exceptions, not the rule. Plenty of things can be satisfying for a lifetime.
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>>14503488
Coffee is as natural as corn or wheat, aka not at all. These plants were selectively bred over centuries, some over millenia, by humans who intended to modify them. All of the individual genetic mutations were somewhat random and natural, but humans were moving them in a certain direction for a certain purpose.

But the natural/unnatural dichotomy is retarded anyway so I don't disagree. But also, anon wasn't wrong, introducing stimulants into your system on a constant basis is definitely impacting your circulation, heart, and almost all other aspects of your metabolism.
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i have low blood pressure i can drink as much coffee as i want nigger
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too young to have built up a dependance/addiction
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>>14503488
the chemical used as a stimulant isn't good over the course over your life. Also you get minor addiction and dependency if you drink heavy caffeine each morning. It messes with your insulin, makes it harder for your body to burn fat and wears your heart out over the decades of drinking coffee with lots of caffeine every single morning. When your heart is elevated when you're not exchanging oxygen for that require bpm, then you are no longer working your heart out, you are straining it, albeit very minorly.
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>>14503488
>>14503580
and I'll also clarify. Running and working your heart out in short high intense cardio bursts where you feed your body more oxygen is not the same as sitting down and drinking coffee and having your heart become elevated. When caffeine enters your bloodstream and you still have the same content of oxygen in your blood, It throws the circulation and rhythm of your heart off, It strains your heart rather than strengthening it because your blood does not have the required oxygen content to match your elevated heart rate.
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>>14503594
and what this means is that your heart has to pump harder and faster with less oxygen being fed to it, which is not good.
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>>14503252
>coffee
>bad for your heart
Source?
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>>14503525
>>14503580
>>14503594
>A 2012 systematic review and a dose-response meta-analysis of prospective studies observed a statistically significant J-shaped relationship between coffee and heart failure. Compared to those who did not drink coffee, the strongest inverse association was seen at 4 cups per day, with a potentially higher risk reported at higher levels of consumption. There was no indication that the relationship between coffee and heart failure risk varied by sex or by baseline history of myocardial infarction or diabetes1.
>A 2013 review on coffee consumption and mortality, with over a million participants, suggested a significant inverse association between coffee consumption and CVD mortality risk, especially in women. Intakes of coffee at 3-5 cups per day showed the most significant protective effect, whilst quantities over 5 cups per day were associated with a smaller reduction in total mortality2.
>However, a 2013 large American cohort study of over 2,500 CVD deaths suggested a positive association between coffee consumption and all-cause mortality in men, and also in men and women below 55 years of age. The authors advised that younger people should avoid heavy coffee consumption, cautioning that the finding should be assessed in other populations3.
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>>14503603
It's simply how the heart works. If you make the heart have an elevated heart rate without proper oxygen intake to match that BPM, It is strain on the heart. When you run, you are taking in more oxygen because you have a lot higher bpm in short bursts making your heart overall stronger. When you drink coffee, you breath normally but your heart rate is elevated. Do that over 50 years every day and you will have heart disease. Caffeine is not good for your metabolism, it's not good your brain or your heart.
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>>14501238
B-but black coffee actually, sincerely tastes good to me and I can easily distinguish the notes between different beans and brew methods. Are you telling me I'm a hipster?
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>>14503525
>>14503580
>>14503594
>A 2013 meta-analysis of well-controlled prospective studies suggested that coffee consumption was not associated with risk of coronary heart disease, weakly associated with a lower risk of stroke and heart failure, and not associated with a higher risk of fatal cardiovascular events. Overall, the authors concluded that for most healthy people, moderate coffee consumption is unlikely to adversely affect cardiovascular health4.
>Two 2014 meta-analyses suggest an association between coffee consumption and CVD risk, proposing a ‘U-shaped’ pattern whereby optimal protective effects were achieved with 3-5 cups of coffee per day. According to these two studies, the greatest risk reduction may be seen at 3 cups of coffee per day, with a reduced CVD mortality risk at 21%5,6.
>A 2017 review of observational studies and meta-analyses concluded that habitual consumption of 3-5 cups of coffee per day is associated with a 15% reduction in the risk of CVD, and higher consumption has not been linked to elevated CVD risk7.
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>>14503610
>3-5 cups per day showed the most significant protective effect, whilst quantities over 5 cups per day were associated with a smaller reduction in total mortality.
Most coffee that Americans drink include 3 cups worth of caffeine, which is to say at least over 250mg. The amount of caffiene you are consuming at starbucks or any commerical fast food place is dangerous for your heart.
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>>14503525
>>14503580
>>14503594
>A 2018 report concluded that habitual coffee consumption is associated with lower risks for cardiovascular death and a variety of adverse CV outcomes, including coronary heart disease, congestive heart failure, and stroke, whilst coffee’s effects on arrhythmias and hypertension are neutral. Habitual intake of 3-4 cups of coffee appears to be safe and is associated with the most robust beneficial effects8.
>A 2018 review of the cardiovascular effects of caffeinated beverages concluded that a moderate intake of coffee and tea may be beneficial for a range of cardiovascular conditions including coronary artery disease, heart failure and arrhythmias9.

>>14503613
Feel free to back up your claims.
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>>14503623
The source.
https://www.coffeeandhealth.org/topic-overview/coffee-consumption-and-cardiovascular-disease-risk/
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>>14503623
they mean nothing as they don't specify the how much caffeine in mg as it varies between drinks. Most drinks that most people buy in the USA are going to have at least 3 cups worth of caffeine easily.
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>>14499917
>YEAH MAN COFFEE GETS YOU GOING LIKE CRAZY SUPER ENERGY DUDE CAN'T STOP SHAKING ONLY ONE CUP A DAY OR YOU'LL EXPLODE
>drink 4 to 6 cups of coffee during the day
>wowit'sfuckingnothing.jpg
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>>14503525
>>14503580
>>14503594
As for CHD:
>A 2009 meta-analysis of 21 prospective cohort studies on coffee consumption and coronary heart disease showed variation between the results of the individual cohort studies, with two studies reporting a positive correlation, and two a negative correlation both for the group who drank 4-6 cups of coffee per day and for those who drank more than cups per day10. However, the overall evaluation did not show a statistically significant association between coffee drinking and long-term risk of coronary heart disease. In addition, habitual moderate coffee consumption was associated with a lower risk in women.
>A meta-analysis published in 2013 suggested a small protective effect (5% risk reduction) of coffee consumption on CHD2.
>A 2014 meta-analysis of 36 studies with 1,279,804 participants and 36,352 CVD cases concluded that coffee consumption was associated with small reduction in CHD risk. The authors suggested an 11% risk reduction at lower coffee intakes (1.5 cups per day) and a 7% risk reduction at higher coffee intakes (5 cups per day)5.
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>>14503525
>>14503580
>>14503594
>A Japanese study followed 37,742 participants over 10 years, with 426 deaths from cardiovascular disease and 2,454 deaths from all causes. The study observed statistically significant inverse associations between coffee consumption and both mortality from all causes as well as mortality from coronary heart disease in women. In men, no association with coronary heart disease was seen11.
>A Dutch study followed 37,514 participants over 13 years with 1,387 cases of coronary heart disease. For coffee consumption, a U-shaped association with slightly reduced risk for coronary heart disease was observed, with the lowest risk in the group seen at 2-3 cups per day12.
>A Swedish study assessed 37,315 male participants over 9 years with 784 cases of heart failure. In this study, coffee consumption was not associated with incidence of heart failure, including those consuming more than five cups per day14.
>A further Swedish study, using case-control instead of the prospective cohort design and smaller in size (375 cases of first myocardial infarction), observed a statistically significant positive association but only for filtered coffee in men. In women, no association reached statistical significance15.
Source:
https://www.coffeeandhealth.org/topic-overview/coffee-consumption-and-coronary-heart-disease-risk/
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>>14503630
under the same article it also talks about cholesterol. Considering most americans are obese already because of it, it's not a good idea for people to be drinking coffee.
in the Coffee consumption and cholesterol
> 2013 study of both light and medium roast coffee concluded that paper-filtered coffee increased cholesterol in healthy volunteers.
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>>14503638
Not my fault if you are obese. Start backing up your claims.
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>>14503580
>messes with your insulin
Hmm...
>A systematic review with a meta-analysis of 457,922 individuals and 21,897 newly-diagnosed cases of type 2 diabetes from eight different countries showed a statistically significant inverse association between coffee consumption and subsequent risk of type 2 diabetes2. The dose response analysis concluded that every additional cup of coffee, up to 6-8 cups per day, was associated with a 5-10% lower risk of developing type 2 diabetes. Drinking 3-4 cups of coffee per day was associated with an approximate 25% lower risk of developing type 2 diabetes, compared to consuming none or less than 2 cups per day.
>A further meta-analysis published in 2018 with 1,185,210 participants and 53,018 incident T2D cases suggested that those in the highest category of coffee consumption (an average of 5 cups per day) had a 29% lower risk of type 2 diabetes compared with those who did not drink coffee. In addition, they concluded that the risk of type 2 diabetes decreased by 6% for each cup-per-day increase in coffee consumption18.
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>>14503644
they don't mention the mg content of these cups in the studies. For all I know 4 cups can have the mg content of one Starbucks coffee or who knows what. Honestly I still wouldn't drink coffee.
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>>14503580
>messes with your insulin
Hmm x2
>Further dose response studies have also been reported. A 2014 study concluded that participants who increased coffee intake by more than one cup per day over a 4 year period had an 11% lower risk of type 2 diabetes, whilst those who decreased coffee consumption by one cup per day had a 17% greater risk of type 2 diabetes15. A meta-analysis of prospective studies suggested a 12% reduction in risk of type 2 diabetes for every additional two cups of coffee per day, and a 14% reduction for every 200mg increment of caffeine per day. This review also suggested that the effect was stronger for women than men16. A 2014 systematic review and dose response analysis also concluded that the risk of diabetes was reduced by a percentage of, respectively: 8, 15, 21, 25, 29 and 33% for 1-6 cups of coffee per day17.
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>>14503656
>Additional epidemiological studies and reviews from different countries have also confirmed the inverse association with coffee consumption3-13, whilst a 10 year follow-up study from Greece also highlighted the significance of long-term habitual coffee drinking against diabetes onset14.
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>>14503661
>>14503656
>>14503656
again these studies aren't telling the content, there's a big difference in 50mg-100mg when you add the cups up. Too much coffee certainly does have cholesterol and after too many cups it has inverse effects on your health. still not drinking it though.
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>>14503580
>The effect of certain genetic polymorphisms on associations between coffee intake and type 2 diabetes was considered in a 2016 review, suggesting that the evidence for a reduced risk of type 2 diabetes in coffee drinkers may be limited when taking into account the genetic profile. These findings warrant further investigation25.
>Research in a group of pre-diabetic patients concluded that diabetes progression was lowest in patients who drank black coffee three or more times per day. The study also considered the impact additions to coffee, such as creamer and sugar, had; and concluded that whilst the risk was lower for the patients who typically consumed black coffee than for those who mixed creamer and sugar into their coffees, the difference was not significant19.
>A retrospective study, published in 2018, considered the effect of caffeine consumption in a group of patients with diabetes (both type 1 and type 2). The results suggested that caffeine from coffee was associated with a reduced all-cause mortality in women but not in men. The authors concluded that further research is required to understand the effect of caffeine consumption in men and women with diabetes in more detail26.
https://www.coffeeandhealth.org/topic-overview/coffee-consumption-and-type-2-diabetes/
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>>14503580
>makes it harder for your body to burn fat
This one takes the cake. An appetite suppressant actually makes it harder to burn fat. Top kek.
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>>14503680
I'm a man so I guess it doesn't apply to me. Most people don't drink black coffee anyways, and even if you do only drink black coffee exclusively, if you drink too much it is bad.
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>>14503691
learn how the metabolism works, fucks up how you eat, which is negative, It makes you hungrier.
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>>14503697
>>14503691
even if it suppresses momentarily you are going to be in for a rude awakening.
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Because boomer coffee sucks ass. Zoomers like me enjoy high quality coffee.
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>>14499917
we got sips
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>>14503679
As opposed to what, not referencing a single study to back up your claims?

>>14503707
>still no reference
Let me know when you start posting references
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>>14502594
Same, i only drink it as a warm up drink.
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>>14503725
>no mg numbers to back up all these "studies"
sad they put all that work into writing on a shill coffee website and then don't define how much their groups testing are even consuming per cup. seems extremely fake
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>>14503725
>Let me know when you start posting references
he never will. the OP is always the most authorative, and the first post often legitimizes it.
Your pining for references will be forgotten and get lost in the noise; your post count will only add to OP's legitimacy
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>>14503623
>>14503616
>>14503610
>>14503637
>>14503630
>>14503656
>>14503661
>>14503680

Based. Non-sippers BTFO
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>>14503736
>literally has referenced no study to back up his claims yet, whether on coffee being bad for the heart, for insulin or for metabolism
Ah, yes, the cope.
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>>14503750
No definition of mg per cup, invalid studies, so not real, at the very least a bad article.
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>>14499917
Zoomer doesn't drink coffee
Zoomer zoomer shouting REEEE
Zoomer doesn't need caffeine
While his crush takes BBC
Big Boomer Cock, that's what they need
Zoomette taking Boomer seed
Boomer boomer he's a chad, old enough to be her dad
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>>14503782
>pt cruiser
bro momento
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>>14503810
Zoomer can't get any chicks
Zoomer's only five-foot-six
Gets sad and deepthroats a gun
Zoomer's dad is six-foot-one
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>>14503520
How is sex different? I get reading and exercise, but sex is more or less the same action again and again. And yes sure you can argue about positions and such and such, but nothing new is actually gained.
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>>14503827
Zoomer cannot put on mass
Onions protein gives him gas
Goes to the gym,
>he lifts for girls
In the squat rack he does curls
Zoomette gym thots ignore wimps
No matter how hard he simps
Boomer's swole, on TRT
He walks in, and Zoomer REEES
Zoomette stares at Boomer's arms
Completely captured my his charms
Big and strong, built like a hero
From chugging whey and monster zero
Because of this Zoomer frets
Seething in between his sets
Boomer's mad, his patiece thin
Asks zoomer if he can work in
Zoomer cries NO, with a scream and a shout
Wrong answer - Boomer knocks him out
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>>14503782
>Outback Steakhouse
>PT Cruiser
>swimming in poon
Literally me, wtf?
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>>14501331
just try not to overdose
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>>14499925
Nobody cares about the "exploitation" because everybody gains something from it. Good luck ending generations long systems in place for shit like that.
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>>14499917
I fucking enjoy coffee in the morning. What are you talking about? Though I don't understand people who have coffee more than once a day.
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>>14501436
>being this homosexual
Tea is the superior drink for evening or night time, coffee is for morning and day time.

Iced tea, chocolate milk, Starbucks """""coffee""""" and other assorted amerishart nonsense is for faggots and degenerates.



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