How do you feel about white petticoat in kuro coords? I know that petticoat is not supposed to be seen, but it still feels a bit off.

>>10890569
doesn't matter to me, you can't see it. I never feel off about wearing a white petti under any color, although I do feel off about wearing a black petti under lighter pieces - even still doesn't matter that much unless the material is thin without lining, in that case the black is a little visible

>>10890569
i think it's weird personally because it's technically part of the coord. but i'm a weird who tries to match my underwear to my coords anyway.

re-asking since old thread hit limit.

Is there someone who does lolita alterations online? Price is not an issue. I need something made slightly larger and my local alterations person isn’t very good. I know Nadine used to but her Instagram says she isn’t taking orders from anyone in the US.

>>10890582
You can just lose weight you know

>>10890595
nayrt, but this is such a weird assumption to make that it would actually help in this situation unless you know anon is chubby.

For example my ribcage alone, at a healthy weight, is too big for some of the smallest max bust measurements I've seen on some pieces. Just like I'm also taller than what those clothes are made for and have wider shoulders than what those clothes are made for. You can lose body fat, you can't diet your underlying frame any smaller.

>>10890595
Oooh, should I? I'm already at 18.2 BMI, but I can try, maybe it will help shrink my ribcage and fix my long torso, because the dress hits at the widest part of my ribcage due to it being for someone about three inches shorter than me! Thanks for advice anon xoxo.

>>10890582
There's thistledown emporium, but her waitlists fill up almost instantly and some of her work is kind of shoddy. I'm also in the same boat, looking for alterations for some dresses because I'm tall.

reposting: Can I shop the RinRin's pop up shop at HH without buying a dumb m&g ticket? I'm assuming it'll be leftover inventory from the con and they won't bring separate inventory for the SF event.

>>10890602
defensive reply for something that supposedly doesn't apply to you

>>10890602
long torso bitches btfo

>>10890613
the pop up is also ticketed, but is a separate event from the meet and greet.

>>10890582
honestly, if it's small, you can probably do it yourself

>>10890620
Nayrt, but you still need sewing skills and be able to finish the seams very neatly. If anon doesn't feel comfortable doing alterations herself then she shouldn't, especially not on a beloved brand piece.

>>10890601
>muh big bones

>>10890650
Are you surprised that people who are taller also have larger measurements and aren't just short people who have only been stretched out length wise and not proportionally scaled up? Someone who is 172cm tall is most likely not built to fit a 70-85cm bust at any weight.

>>10890615
Nta but
>makes retarded post
>gets deserved reply
>"so defensive!!!"
Your iq is subzero

I just want some cute loliable boots for moderate cold like up to -15/-20 Celsius that have a short heel, idk where to look because every cute shoe wont fit my feet (US size 9) please help gulls

>>10890661
not the one that said it retard. anyone can see the reply was insecure as fuck

>>10890664
if you use taobao there's a shop i've been buying from for years that has great boots for cold(i'm in canada) and good shoes overall. most go up to chinese size 43 which is about 10-10.5 and the "wintery" boots and shoes have the option to add warm lining. i'll just drop the shop link here but i can share links to specific ones i've bought before if you like.
>https://llccss.taobao.com/?spm=a1z10.5-c-s.0.0.498931d15Ghs79

>>10890629
why get defensive? it's literally the easiest thing in the world to learn, and a skill you need to have if you want to preserve your precious burando long term. plenty of professionals have no idea how to handle lolita, and i've seen my share of professional alterations that look like total shit.

she's more likely to learn to do it herself by the time she ever gets a waiting list spot for an actual lolita geared seamstress.

>>10890680
NTA but no one is defensive. you sound kind of defensive that no one wants your advice on sewing when anon asked a specific question. if anon would have asked where to get the best macarons would you have suggested she just learn to bake?

>>10890615
she was clearly joking anon, maybe we need to start using tone indicators on cgl to help with your autism? /j /srs /kys /etc

>>10890692
No shit, retard. It still reeks of insecurity. Actual skinny people don't feel the need to give a sarcastic reply with their bmi measurement and sperg out about their bone structure to an assumption that doesn't apply to them. Sounds like you also have thick bones, more specifically the skull.

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So i bought celestial and i only own one blouse(yes i know…) but im wondering if they go together? Is the blouse too old school or does it still work? I plan on adding a ivory satin bow brooch to the collar to make it more modern looking but, will the blouse still work with it or do i need to buy a new blouse? Yes im very nitpicky…ydysgm

>>10890700
i wouldn't wear a cotton blouse with this. you could certainly wear it but it would look better with something more airy/flowy, if that makes sense.

>>10890605
glad I’m not the only one who thinks their work/communication is a bit weak

>>10890699
you're so tilted by this for some reason. calm down.

>>10890700
They don't go together at all imo, you need a more modern poly/chiffon blouse that drapes well to match the weight of the fabric and the lace on the JSK

>>10890711
your kys reply got the same energy, cry.

>>10890670
Thank you so much anon this helps a ton! I think I'll give it a shot :)

>>10890664
>short heel
I feel you on this part, I'm size 36 which is ubiquitous but I need something with a modest heel or I'll probably slip on ice and all the cutest designs have huge heels and probably aren't meant for real snow.
https://m.tb.cn/h.5QZsvDa?tk=nLAbWWSPobD
Here's one that goes up to 41, but I'm not sure if it's your style or if it fits (getting conflicting answers on US to China conversion and I only know my own size)
https://m.tb.cn/h.5QZtZxl?tk=L4y3WWSPqTA
I think you might have some luck looking for regular boots and DIYing some leather bows onto them. These go up to 42 but some sizes are sold out right now, maybe they'll restock? There are lots of small attachable shoe bows on tb and if the boots will probably be more winter-suited if you go this route

>>10890715
that wasn't me, you just sound like a nut.

>>10890722
retarded post gets retarded reply womp womp

>>10890717
Yeah it sucks cause I'm kind of just outside the usual size range at a 41/42, I want the heel cause flats are just so unflattering on me and I have a tendency to want to walk on my toes so the flats are super uncomfy as well. Thank you for the suggestions I'll keep an eye out!

>>10890681
other anons have mentioned lolita alteration commissions are few, far between, and of questionable quality. i'm just offering an alternative. a lot of newbies think sewing is harder than it actually is.

>>10890700
this doesn't work in my opinion. i would go with a chiffon blouse like others suggested, a lace blouse, or if you're set on cotton, a top with a cotton body and chiffon or lace sleeves, or a sufficiently flowy cutsew/cardigan may do the trick.

where would you draw the line between jiraikei and gothloli?

>>10890771
they are nothing alike, does any distinction need to be made?

>>10890582
did you also post this on the big sisters fb group? timing is too convenient.

>>10890784
Lmao you’re right. The “they told me to lose weight and it made me sad” in the post. So she really was just a fattychan, explains a lot

>>10890787
I had a look (because I do like drama I'm not a part of), but I doubt this is the same person. Firstly because milky planet is not a small dress, secondly because she says her relative told her to lose weight. Of course it could be the same person, but then she lied (gasp!). Anyway I expected it to be an actual small dress a slim person might have fit issues with, not milky planet.

Do I actually need an EORI/TIN if I want to use jpshopping? I’m from Europe and no other shopping service has asked me for it

>>10890784
Nope. I saw that person on the farm. I’m hoping to add a few cms to an old school piece that doesn’t have any shirring.

I've been out of the fashion since moco moco bunnys. Is AP still making their socks small like that release? I want to buy a few new pairs but I have hikers calves

>>10890870
Its not the sizing, it's the fabric content. Older socks have 99% nylon, but nowadays it's 90% which is why they're so tight.

can I order a maple wig direct from their website and have it shipped to me in the US? or would I need a shopping service?

I feel bad because this is a really noob spoonfeeding question but can anyone offer total beginner advice for non-synthetic wigs? I wear sweet lolita and casual jfash and I mostly just want some wigs to switch up my hair color, and I'm not satisfied with the synthetic cosplay-tier stuff that I've tried since it just looks, well, synthetic. But I am struggling a bit to figure out how to get started with real human hair wigs and not waste my money. A lot of the sites I'm checking are clearly targeted towards black women and/or they mostly feature like a sexy normie style, not sure how to describe this but they wouldn't match lolita. Very few have bangs, do I have to do this myself? Any recs for good sites?

>>10890870
it varies wildly-- some are fine, others are weird.

>>10890605
>thistledown emporium
Sorry, this got lost in the nonsense. Thanks for the rec! I checked out her work, and her alteration of the MM gobelin JSK scares me (it looks... wavy? idk), so I don't think I'll join the waitlist when it opens. I can fit into the piece I have, but it's just a bit uncomfy in the bodice, so idk, I might just live with it.

>>10891158
I would say sites targeted for black women may still be best, honestly. They're made to be worn and styled for very long periods. Straight blunt bangs (not specifically j-fashion type bangs but there's plenty of tutorials on cutting that) are decently popular with black women and black female musicians, try and watch some wig styling videos for it.

>>10891156
You need to use a shopping service, they only ship to addresses within Japan

What are some places that sell cute coats that would fit a gothic lolita coord, and are actually warm? I need to get out of this post-soviet ice cube country istg

>>10891175
I am in the same boat as you, have been looking for 3 years now. Mary Magdalene coats are the warmest, but they never pop up in the colourways I want and other brands are not warm enough for my needs. I am now looking into getting a custom one made.

anyone know what happened to millefleurs? is there any hope for releases in the future, or did the brand die quietly?

Why are all of these shops full of (mostly) polyester or other synthetic fabrics??:
Liz Lisa, Rojita/Rmine, Bunny Apartment, evelyn,melfy memory, Amavel, sparkling mall online store, dreamvs, axesfemme, ntbhshop

And a lot of them have similar products too. It's all so confusing. If anyone's bought anything from any of these sites, could you let me know if the clothes are comfortable to wear or if you sweat to death in them

>>10891183
They still make stuff. Its just not that much and not much is online, they usually put it in select shops instead.

>>10891196
Every single store you listed is cheap af, they of course are going to be full of poly.

Personally I never sweat to death in poly but I also try to buy high quality clothes, and at least higher quality poly is better to deal with.

>>10891197
I see Liz Lisa and axe femme listed here all the time, and they aren't that cheap. I'm going to avoid them though. Please list any good stores for jfashion if you have them. I rather pay $200 for one good piece than $60 for a polyester piece

>>10891207
You can find extremely casual girly style on Closetchild, like $5 a piece. They're fine for wardrobe fillers and I don't sweat in them.

Pink House is often 100% cotton. You might also try Samansamos2 (sm2). But obviously these are much different styles than what you've listed.

>>10891208
extremely *cheap casual girly style

>>10891207
i think anon meant cheap mores as in quality than price.

Is Metamorphose the name of a porn thing as well because I keep seeing certain things while shopping online

Why are there no trannies that pulled off gothic lolita when egl was made by a crossdresser.

>>10891228
troons can't coord lol

>>10891228
MTFs are often autogynephiles and/or pedos, so naturally they flock to the one substyle that is the most exaggeratedly girly and features childhood themes. Gothic is too mature and elegant to fetishize for most of them.

>>10891228
it seems to be fairly universal that the large majority of trans people and genderspecials cannot put together a decent coord to save their life. I have no definitive answer on why that is. I used to think it was because trans women are male and never needed to develop a sense of style until they transitioned, which usually happens at 18 or older. But then I noticed that trans men in the lolita comm also typically have crap taste, and they grew up female so that hypothesis goes out the window.... or they didn't develop a sense of style because they never wanted to (and preferred to dress like boys when they were younger) until they find out about lolita. Then there's also the gender specials (the female non binary or agender they/them folks, or the women who want to be called he but still continue to present as hyper feminine, make it make sense) who also typically have bad taste. Someone else commented a while ago that this is because they're usually autistic. But some of the best dressed people in the comm are autistic so, idk. Maybe these are the types of people who never took an interest in fashion and personal hygiene and grooming until they find out about lolita. And they tend to treat lolita as some kind of nerd costume. With their greasy poorly styled hair.

>>10891251
it's survivorship bias. you only really see the really fucking awful looking tranny coords, because the good ones either slide under the radar by passing or get no exposure at all (no one wants to praise a troon coord, but if it's not awful enough to be ita, it just doesn't get reposted).

it's the same way you'd probably think all western lolitas are fat ugly pigs if you only ever had reposted coords for reference. the itas are far more visible than the good ones, and the good ones are promoted far less than asian coords.

there's more troons around than you'd know, it's just that the normal ones don't advertise being a troon.

>>10891257
I'm not a part of the "I can always tell" crowd, but I don't think there's a significant amount of trans people who pass and don't tell anyone that they're trans. In today's climate I don't think many of them still attempt to stealth.
If I based my views on how trans people in the lolita community dressed on what I saw on CGL I would think 99,99% of them dressed like utter crap. But I'm not basing my view on what I see on CGL, I'm in a comm with quite a few trans people. AFAIK there's only one that passes in my comm, at least in pictures, and she puts it in her bio that she's trans. When you meet her irl she's super tall, completely flat chested and has a boy voice so if she wasn't open about being trans I would have thought there was a good chance that she was (I would not have assumed it though, there's some gangly flat chested cis women out there). I respect her because I'm 100% sure she's trans, she dresses decently enough and doesn't give off any creep vibes. So it's more like roughly 80% of the trans people in my comm dress like crap, which is still the large majority imo. All of the female they/thems and hes are very obviously female, but none of them are on HRT afaik. I have no doubt that with the right treatment a trans man can 100% pass, they just don't seem to be in lolita communities. It's not as easy for mtf. It doesn't help that a lot of mtf transition after male puberty. It doesn't help that a lot of fetishist men are getting into communities under the guise of being trans. I'm not sure I can always tell the difference between a fetishist man pretending to be trans and a mtf with shit taste and a masculine appearance. My solution as mod (if I was one) would be to keep them both out, but that would surely get me canceled.

>>10891257
I'm in a comm with an MTF who actually passes extremely well (as in I wouldn't have known until I got told), dresses in perfectly fine old school/trad BTSSB, but I haven't seen any shitty trans itas. I genuinely think this survivorship bias is a contributing factor. Most people who dress decently and act like normal humans, trans or not, tend to keep to themselves.

>>10891266
You are very lucky. In my comm there are some very obvious trans people and gender specials. almost all of them dress like shit.

>>10891269
I'd get the hell out of there if I were you.

>>10891251
>But some of the best dressed people in the comm are autistic so
It's how autistic men and women are socialized and diagnosed.

Girls aren't the ones getting diagnosed most of the time. How we present ourselves to others is part of our socialization. Boys are the ones getting the diagnosed. Honestly many of them are coddled because of it. They don't HAVE to learn x,y,z because they're autistic! Meanwhile, we have to figure this out for ourselves.

When an autistic guy goes over to lolita, they might not have any frame of reference, down to dressing properly, grooming and poise. Some autistic girls end up studying this shit like it's their life's work. Fashion, makeup, and looking nice can become a special interest and obsession. Thus, totally "normal" interests for women, and they go undiagnosed.

This is why you can get autistics who dress impeccably, and next to them is another autistic who looks like a dumpster fire. One hyperfocused on not looking autistic. The other hyperfocused on their husbando / waifu and never learned to hide their power level.

>>10891265
AYRT i won't argue most dress like shit, just arguing the point that none of them can dress themselves. there are absolutely well dresses troons, sometimes even with normal personalities, you just don't hear about them because they're not making a spectacle of themselves.

>>10891266
my comm is similar-- there's a couple of well dressed girls i suspect are trans, a couple of well dressed confirmed troons, and even a couple of well dressed cross dressers that all behave normally at meets. all brandwhores too. none of them really bring it up, either-- aside from pronouns on instagram, i wouldn't know if i hadn't heard their voices.

the obnoxious and poorly dressed ones are usually the fakebois/genderspecial women. i guess location is a factor, some comms really do have serious creeps in them

>>10891273
it's the only comm within travel distance. My solution is to limit my interaction with people I don't like.

>>10891274
that's a very good point about masking

>>10891275
that's fair

>>10891278
>a couple of well dressed girls i suspect are trans
>a couple of well dressed confirmed troons
>a couple of well dressed cross dressers that all behave normally at meets
>all brandwhores too
>none of them really bring it up

opposite world

>>10891275
Idk where these anons are or how they met these people and I mean this genuinely and in good faith, every mtf I've met has been a dumpster fire or dropped explicit (no exaggeration) hints about being turned on by lolita. If there's anything that radicalized me it was meeting these people and trying my hardest to take them in good faith to be let down every time. The way they talk about lolita in trans spaces too is not good, to say the least? Like I don't want to associate with any of these fucking people, I've spent so much time reading garbage people write in their own circles and hearing what people say in person that I've just been permanently blackpilled for good reason.

A few ita threads back I was arguing with a person that yeah, I've had extremely negative experiences, and no I'm not some stereotypical terf boogeyman who looks for reasons to shit on people I've never met or seen. It's like, nah, I've met these people and they were genuinely rude as fuck and directly instigated drama or made topics about them. Nobody wants to talk about fucking gender, wtf. Please save that shit for your tumblr blog or tttt. If it's not a phase you'll eventually grow out of can you please be a decent human being and also not sexualize lolita? Not to mention this crazy taboo about questioning who's trans or not. Yes, there are indeed fetishists hiding behind a trans identity. No, I don't have to give someone the benefit of the doubt for being trans and "maladjusted" or for "gender euphoria". Sure you might legitimately be trans but what's the difference between a creepy male with shit taste and a creepy trans male with shit taste? Like the things that other anons said about autistic men, please learn how to groom yourself. Being a tranny is not an excuse. I don't have to be okay with someone REEKING across the table because, and I shit you not, they're still getting used to a female puberty. Please fuck all the way off!

>>10891274
>How we present ourselves to others is part of our socialization
>>10891279
>that's a very good point about masking
in my opinion it's less about masking and more about social acceptability. autistic traits in women and men don't actually differ much, it's just that people think those traits are either cute or how women are. things like being shy or quiet are positively associated with women. where as being clumsy and airheaded is considered a cute "helpless" trait in women. in men though all those things are sup negative so they do end up being coddled, but by their mothers. where as for women we're coddled mostly by those trying to take advantage of us in general.

>>10891293
nayrt, but this is similar to my experiences. I used to be the first person to defend anyone claiming to be trans in our community because I always wanted to give the benefit of the doubt and I wanted to see the best in people, I always came up with excuses ("they're just finding their style", "they're just learning about female hygiene", "they're just at the start of their transition" etc). I was always friendly and welcoming and told them they could talk to me and come to me for advice, during a time when some of them weren't really ignored but you could notice people were keeping their distance from them in my local comm. So when they asked me I gave advice about which clothes would fit them/suit them, helped them find pieces that would fit their measurements and style, which accessoires, wigs, etc. I thought that if they just started dressing better and styled themselves better they would be more accepted and there would be no issues. (in hindsight this fulfilled some kind of sick makeover kink roleplay thing for them, yuck).
I got to be friends with some of them and I noticed when they thought they could tell me everything the icky stuff started coming out. These people told everyone it's not a kink, but then confided in me that it was a kink for them, that it did turn them on. And they genuinely think it's an innocent kink that they shouldn't be judged for. I didn't start a conflict with them or ever made my disapproval known, I let those friendships die naturally. I was just so disappointed, I felt deceived. I defended them and told everyone that they were just born in the wrong body. It got to the point where I just don't trust any mtf who doesn't pass. I will always think it's just a matter of time before the kink stuff comes out.

The way the trans community talks about lolita fashion is disgusting, I don't think they fully understand our issue with it. They'll some shit like them getting aroused by wearing lolita fashion is gender euphoria.

>>10891299
>things like being shy or quiet are positively associated with women. where as being clumsy and airheaded is considered a cute "helpless" trait in women.

only if you're not an ugly girl/woman. If you're ugly then being quiet is creepy, shy means you're cold and standoffish and like you think you're better than everyone, being clumsy is destructive and careless, air headed means you're dumb. If you're autistic and cute people will think you're a manic pixie dream girl. If you're ugly then you're not, then you're not cute, quirky, etc. Then you're just weird, awkward, offputting, etc.

Autistic women are expected to mask to a greater degree (or fit in, or whatever you want to call it) because of expectations that are put on all women. Autistic men get away with strange behavior way more than autistic women do. This probably also has something to do with the average age of diagnosis. Men are diagnosed earlier than women. It's pretty common for male autistics to be diagnosed as children, and get accommodations for their autism. They get taught that society has to be accepting of their disability too, that's it's a two way street. Women, who tend to get diagnosed much later, grow up thinking there's something wrong with them (they just don't know what), and they tend to do their best to fit in.

I think other anon explained it really well that some autistic women study things like fashion and styling (hair, makeup) diligently because they think it's vital for their survival in society, and that's pretty accurate. And that's why you get some impeccably dressed lolitas with autism and also some very poorly styled gross lolitas with autism.

>>10890601
>>10890602
maybe this fashion is for you?

I just placed an order on Baby's website however there was an error when I tried to pay with PayPal and for some unknow reasons bank deposit was used as the payment method... As something ever happened to you?

I sent an email right after asking if I could pay with PayPal and if they could help me.
It was a gift for my girlfriend and the dress is already sold out so I don't want it to be canceled... I'm in the middle of the night at 4am checking every seconds if they answered me, do they respond fast to English emails?
I'm afraid they will blacklist me for not paying

People who buy Moitie luckypacks, is it normal to receive salon exclusive novelties in it? Is it because I'm a salon member?

I have a dress that’s kinda loud and rustles when I walk, any idea to cut the noise down?
I’ve had this issue with some of my dresses with built in pettis before but this one doesn’t have that, is just the fabric.

>>10891345
Depending on what you are talking about. Stuff sold is a valid thing to put in the lucky pack so the stickers are an "item". There is sometimes unique novelty items that are salon only that is unlikely to be in a lucky pack.

>>10891324
They wont blacklist you but they will cancel it. Pay with your credit card next time.

>>10891354
both of this "info" is wrong and you sound snarky.

>>10891345
As a salon member, I often receive extras (keychain, stickers etc.) with my orders. Last time I bought something without disclosing my member's ID, I got nothing besides the things I had purchased.

>>10891323
I'm the first anon (not the second) and I'm fine, there are enough things I can buy that fit me. Although a lot of brands don't have a multi size system the sizing of pieces does very. On one end there's very large stuff available (meta plus size, maxicimam lovely size, tokuramine or how ever you spell it does plus size) and on the other hand some pieces you may come across have a max bust in the 70s and lower 80s. If you like old school you're more likely to find smaller pieces. If you're taller than 165cm I'd give Innocent World a try.

>>10891323
I’m the original anon with the alteration q, and I’d say 99% of stuff fits fine, it’s just old school (and old school classic at that) that gives me trouble sometimes. Modern pieces are super forgiving and usually too large in the bust and waist, whereas older ones can be hit or miss. I think I suit the fashion just fine.

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>>10890549
Not really a j-fashion question, but figure yall are as good of a place as any to ask...

I want to make my keys cute and throw on a cute keychain (as a man, so this will be going in and out of my pockets and getting jingled around)
But all I got are acrylic charms, which I'm going to assume are going to get scratched up from the keys and rubbing against jeans.

What are some good places to buy a cute anime keychain that's pretty durable? And what type materials do you think are best?
Ideally I'd assume metal, but it's hard to find good metal keychains like I'd want.

>>10891224
nonny im so sorry but yeah. it's some really gross porn about a highschooler that just goes through it. rape, incest, drugs, the ending is talked about a bit.
the original title was emergence but it was changed to metamorphose, which might be why you're seeing it.

>>10891476
I thought it was called metamorphosis, not metamorphose?

>>10891476
They might mean all the gravure pics that show up when you search metamorphose on secondhand sites

>>10891478
You’re thinking of The Metamorphosis by Kafka.

>>10891492
No, I’m not. The eromanga is called Metamorphosis.

>>10891274
some are obvious sissy fetishists using trans identity as a flimsy kind of plausible deniability but i think others just have really terrible taste because cosplay gear or fast fashion brands are their barometer for style. r/lolita is evidence enough that there are plenty of women with this problem too. quality is not part of the equation, they do not know how to tell if something fits aside from being able to physically get it on their body, and coordinating is only an incidental part of a coord. given the way some of them talk about it i suspect lot of them are just extremely normie and think "subculture" fashions are supposed to be attention grabbing and costumey by default.

>>10891310
yeah, i'm not autistic but have a cluster a personality disorder that people often assume is autism. i was directly called creepy and offputting (in an intentionally hurtful way) as a teenager when i was heavier and more poorly dressed. meanwhile the autistic boys who were constantly sexually harassing people and sperging about 4chan posts in their jorts were seen as needing extra social assistance and forgiveness. even today i'm perceived totally differently when i'm dressed up, especially if i have something cutesy instead of practical on. it doesn't matter if my behavior stays exactly the same.

>>10891470
do you think women don't carry keys in their pockets anon? the acrylic ones do eventually get scratched but they hold up decently if you don't abuse the shit out of them. you can polish the surface with tamiya compound/plastx/novus or whatever. if you get the kind where the image is sandwiched between two pieces of acrylic instead of painted or printed on the outside you don't need to worry about damaging image the itself. i think you can polish metal keychains too but i don't have any experience with how to do it. an alternative would be rubber or plush keychains. they just need spot cleaned if they get grubby or scuffed.

>>10891310
you're just saying the same shit incels say kek

>>10891563
>>10891310
Both of these are still tied to social expectations, you just added the extra one that girls should be pretty. The same kind of thing happens to autist men if they're ugly and not successful. Successful male with autism is just eccentric where as if he's not, he's a freak. Also keep in mind this is all only in NA not in Europe or Asia where autism is still rightly treated as a disability. The autism acceptance movement in NA is making treatment more difficult for people who need it simply because some annoying HFA think that they're gods.

>>10891572
people are generally perceived better when they look good. what any given person considers good is subjective but this is usually true whether you like it or not. a single overlapping observation doesn't make a shared ideological stance.

>>10891573
to be clear these kids weren't successful. maybe i phrased this poorly. they weren't seen as eccentric and they weren't considered cool, they were just not actively socially pushed to the margins for their behavior. if they weren't known to be autistic they would have received MORE pushback for how they were acting. the idea here is not that they have autist privilege or something, just that there is a certain level of permissiveness and a "just deal with it cuz he can't help it" attitude for autistic boys that is not (or at least Was Not when i was in school) extended to autistic girls. they had plenty of problems in other ways and this permissiveness doesn't actually help them connect with other people.

>>10891572
ayrt, I noticed the similarities but there's an essential difference in that incels will stalk or harass women, touch them without their consent or make wildly inappropriate comments, and then claim that this would not be considered creepy or harassment if they were conventionally attractive.
Autistic behavior in women is generally considered creepy and off putting if those women are ugly or plain looking, I'm not talking situations in which autistic ugly women are making unwanted advances.

Not just in general society, we see this in lolita communities too.

>>10891573
I hadn't considered the cultural differences before, but when you mentioned HFA thinking they're gods then this issue is absolutely international. I live in europe and we definitely have dudes (I've never seen a woman say this, although I'm sure they exist) who say that their HFA/aspergers means they're better than everyone else, and the next step in human evolution, etc.
People here seem to have a lot of patience with men (regardless of their appearance) and their autistic behavior. Autistic women are treated like they ought to know the rules, and are given less tolerance and patience. Nothing surprising I suppose.
I'm also sure it's true that the appearance of autistic men makes a difference in how they are perceived because it does in general, but there's still a massive double standard between them and the women.

I see this in lolita comms here. Autistic man gets 5 warnings and explanation about how his behavior is unwanted and specific instructions on what not to do, then mods drag their ass on kicking him out when he continues doing it. That might have something to do with mods not wanting to appear trans phobic. Autistic women get one warning about how certain comm members feel uncomfortable with their behavior, but then no explanation about which behavior this is or anything specific about how they should be acting. I've seen this with 2 autistic female comm members, who are actually some of the sweetest people I've ever met. Getting mods to elaborate is like pulling teeth. It turned out to be about these two autistic women oversharing according to certain other comm members. Was it anything yucky or intimate like you would expect when you hear the term "over sharing"? No, it was about how they mentioned they bought something for their physical disability.
It's an absolutely fucked up world that the autistic guy with a cross dressing fetish gets to make inappropriate sexual comments and is still in the comm. (1)

>>10891573
cont.
whilst the 2 autistic women who talk about their physical disability aids get told in very vague terms they're making certain other people uncomfortable, and get no information on what they're doing that is making these people uncomfortable until they ask the mod who seems to not want to elaborate for some reason. The women got told in softer terms that they should conform to local comm culture or gtfo.

This pisses me off. And even worse, there are some comm members who openly talk about their private life but everyone accepts it because everyone knows them and they're popular.

>>10891583
yeah, this is more what i was trying to describe too- a seemingly endless well of patience for autistic men

>>10891563
Most women I meet don’t usually take them out often. But as a man I have to display my key fob as a show of sexual aggression

>>10890569
half of my pettis are whatever random color happened to be in stock. if the petti is the right length and you aren't flipping your skirt up no one has to know.

>>10891347
What fabric is it?

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>>10891592
of course, it would be irresponsible not to consider the threat of a man with keys

In lolita is it acceptable to wear ankle socks and a long sleeved blouse.
I want to but for some reason feel like this is illegal? Haven’t worn it in a while.

>>10891754
you can do it but personally feels like the balance is off. For some reason short sleeve and long sock is okay, but long sleeve and short sock is top-heavy.

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What’s the name of the painting that has this blue JSK in it?

>>10891760
That’s how I feel about it but I just bought a new jsk and I was looking at coords with it, and i have the perfect blouse and socks. I also have a short sleeved blouse I could wear tho.

>>10891754
It is. You just have to balance it well with the other accs and items. The problem of combining short socks and long sleeves is that the bottom part of the coord will often look bare if you don't adorn it with something else.

>>10891754
i think it depends on the type of blouse and the feel of the coord overall. if it's a more autumn or wintry looking coord it will look weird.

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>>10891762
controversial, but I like ankle socks over tights. maybe that would be more cohesive temperature-wise.

>>10891772
i don't think that's controversial by itself, but a lot of people don't know how to do it properly. you need sheer or semi-sheer tights to wear the socks over. i've seen people do this with opaque black tights and black socks and it looks terrible. some lolitas also layer them for warmth without taking fashion into consideration when you can do both. i wear wool lined nude tights underneath lace or sheer/semi-sheer tights in winter to make it appear like i'm not layering tights underneath for the cold and it looks much better than just settling for a warm solid.

New fag here. Where do I buy shoes and how I tell if someone is selling replica

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>>10891761
Do you mean the OP? If so, this is Serenade by Takato Yamamoto.

I'd like some honest opinions about whether I should try getting back into lolita.

>former anorexic turned fatty-chan
>social anxiety, standing out scares me but it also makes me feel empowered sometimes
>severe scarring all over my body and I have a couple disgustingly ugly tattoos, mentioning this because it obviously doesn't fit the aesthetic and I'm very insecure about it

Some positive traits:

>30 y/o but look 22-25, still get carded
>have lost 35+ lbs already

Is it end of the line for me or should I give this whole thing one more chance? Lolita is my dream fashion but I do need to know when to call it quits and retreat into a Zara store or whatever.

>>10891828
what style of lolita are your interested in? if you're overweight, you might have trouble fitting into older pieces and specific classic brands, but a lot of modern sweet will probably fit you, as well as more inclusive brands like atelier pierrot.

if you're losing weight, and a lot of it, and you think it might affect the things you wear for lolita, then i say wait a little longer before buying pieces, or buy pieces that have size flexibility (shirring, adjustable straps, corset lacing).

also: unlike what some people might say, there's no age limit to lolita, so there's no "end of the line" for you. you're allowed to leave and rejoin as many times as you like. it's also not all or nothing, so you can try out one coordinate and see if you feel comfortable in it right now? it's not like lolitas don't wear zara sometimes, too.

>>10891828
I think you should do what makes you happy. A lot of people in the fashion don’t exactly fit the aesthetic, and sure a lot of them don’t look good. They’re likely still having fun and doing something they enjoy though. Your insecurities are understandable but you shouldn’t make a decision based on anonymous opinions on an image board imo

>>10891828

if the clothes fit and are cohesive, wear it. as long as it makes you happy. are you actually a fatty-chan or are you judging from your previous ana standards?

>>10891828
are you receiving therapy and getting help? if yes, then give lolita a try and you can talk about your insecurities with them. if no, then don't, you're just going to relapse

>>10891828
fellow former anorexic turned fatty chan, now overweight because I overshot by a lot in recovery, but slowly losing weight now the healthy and sustainable way, which is just a different kind of struggle because it requires a lot more patience than methods that lead to rapid weight loss. I have some remaining anxiety around the fact that I'm in my late 30s and have never been conventionally attractive looking. I recently came to the realization that the idea that I'm ugly is mostly in my head, and that in reality I am just average.

Positive points;
>people assume I'm a lot younger than I am, due to a combination of genetics and having been a recluse for a long time (not out in sunlight).
>have a lost some lbs whilst increasing health and strength, and continue to lose lbs slowly
>enjoying life way more now I'm not actively dying and also no longer in that part of recovery when my weight was going up and I was feeling hopeless, not knowing when it would end
>my life is getting better in almost all aspects. It's nice to see hard work paying off.

I'm enjoying lolita fashion a lot. You just need some guts (or stubbornness) to wear it. I've known a few people with AN in the past and if that was anything to go on I know that people with AN are stubborn. So I think you can do this.
Other people's opinions only have the power that you give them, so if you decide that the holder of the opinion does not matter then their opinion doesn't matter either.
This system works well for me because I don't have many fucks left to give.

>>10891354
They told me to send the money on PayPal
My credit card was denied because I believe the address/invoice was not at my name

>>10891923
told you that anon was full of shit.

Where should I buy baby's first lolita shoes?

Any guides for spotting replica when buying online or secondhand

>>10891955
antaina, it is from taobao so you'll need to get a shopping service, but they're great and not too expensive. If you don't want to bother with ordering through a shopping service and you want to support a smaller brand, cotton candy feet is pretty good quality.

as for spotting replicas, the lace almost never matches or looks strange. also, ask for pictures of brand tags if you think it looks off. The print will look weird, the fit will be off - compare the listing pictures to the pictures on lolibrary. Also Rainedragon has a list of known fakes on her blog.

>>10891969
How do I know someone is not fake/replica on Taobao?

>>10891982
most of antaina's shoes are brand replicas, which is not nearly as frowned upon as dress replicas. that being said, if you don't want to wear shoe replicas, iris corolla and sheep puff make shoes that are original designs.

If you're talking about knowing if a dress is a replica, any dress claiming to be from a japanese brand is a replica. as well as any "generic" dresses that you see listing for everywhere, like the infamous andromeo replica. for a beginner, find a list of known taobao lolita brands and only buy from those.

My advice? start with brand. first dress, maybe even first blouse? should be brand.

>>10891985
>>10891969
Thank you kind Anon.

Are Bodyline shoes any good? I can get a pair in my country.

2nd. How frowned upon is it to wear normal shoes with lolita? I have seen girls with normal shoes walking around in lolita.

>>10891988
Bodyline's shoes are pretty good quality, I like them. Bodyline restocks almost never, making them harder to get, but if you can get some, it's worth it.

"normal shoes" is a bit vague, but athletic shoes like sneakers are not looked upon very fondly. even if they're pink. I would stick to mary janes or oxfords. That being said, you can always wear lolita-appropriate shoes and bring backup shoes. I do this because I struggle to drive in thicker-soled shoes.

>>10891994
I am allowed to wear sneakers if my as backup when my feet hurt or weather gets bad while wearing lolita?

>>10891999
It's not like it's against the law, but it'll probably not look very good, if you're planning on taking photos to share anywhere best to do it before you've equipped the sneakers. there's a lot of regular shoes or boots that would look less out of place.

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Nonnas, what's the quality like on these Atelier Pierrot platforms? I've been burned by Meta's stripper heels before, but I don't want to give up on my brand shoe dream quite yet

>>10892015
I think it might be Yosuke who are manufacturing those. They are exactly the same looking. AtiePie tends to pick up a lot of things from other manufacturers. Personally one of the reasons why I don't like buying their stuff, since it's like white label china goods slapped with their AtiePie brand

>>10892013
Not for photos or met ups but for walking.

>>10892017
Unfortunately, Yosuke don't produce shoes in my size and I much prefer the general shape and details of the AtePie ones, so I'm out of options there. I've heard good things about Yosuke though, hopefully that means these are decent quality as well.

>AtiePie tends to pick up a lot of things from other manufacturers
Do you have any other examples? Never heard of this, now I'm curious.

does anyone know if cotton candy feet is any good?

>>10892041
I haven't tried them personally but nearly all of the reviews I hear about them basically say they're mediocre and underwhelming for the price. I've heard a lot of stories about glued parts peeling off or being misaligned, or items having scuffs and scratches right out of the box, particularly for their bags. My impression is that there are better options for what you'd be paying but maybe someone who's tried them firsthand can attest otherwise

>>10892041
I own 3 pairs of shoes and their newest black friday deal bag, I like it but I only buy them on sales. They've been making improvements on their items and I personally think their recent stuff is less scuffed (eg: bags having raw edges, but now they don't seem to have as many seeing the bags my friends have) but I generally consider the bags better than the shoes imo. Again they're ok and the items can be really really cute but the prices are sour sometimes and arrive weird for what should be a beyond neatly packaged item. The owner makes a point about not making the prices better for brazilians either which is funny considering even foreigners find it expensive. This can be partially explained by the brazilian governments being retarded and never lowering production and sale taxes btw, resulting in everyone who actually produces in house in Brazil to have to jack up their prices to make for it. Your daily reminder that both commies and rightoids are subhuman because none of them have even attempted to fix this issue yet.

>>10892060
>I've heard a lot of stories about glued parts peeling off
Kek okay this happened to me on a pair of shoes for both of them, they were on sale, but still. Pretty unacceptable.

>>10892015
wait, I was actually going to buy the meta stripper heels, what happened with yours?

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>>10892089
I was unlucky enough to receive a pair with platforms that wrinkled within the first couple of wears, like in picrel. It'd be understandable if I was overweight, but that wasn't the case. This happened several years ago and I remember others complaining about the same issue, so hopefully it was just a defective batch and they fixed it by now.

>>10892076
>commies
In Brazil. Kek.
You might call them leftist-wannabes, but calling them commies just shows how little you understand of politics.

>>10892041
They're ok. I prefer the bags, as the other anon said. What I enjoy about them is the range of colors and the possibility of mix and matching some accs.

>>10892015
i used to own these-- the quality was by far the best out of the brand shoes i've owned (baby, meta, aatp, ap) but they were too tall for my weak ankles. if you can walk in platform heels, get them, they're worth it.

I’m a sweet who has to wear glasses but when I wear headbows it makes them really hurt, is there anything I an do?

>>10892142
Change to clip-on ribbons? Or find different frames to wear with Lolita. You'll have to change either one or the other.

>>10892142
If you can wear them, get a contact appointment. I am a glasses wearer and I almost exclusively wear contacts in lolita. You don't even need to wear circle lenses necessarily.
Besides that, you could wear your head bow further back on your head and/or angle it to be behind your glasses arms.

Why are Closet Child's MMM pieces so expensive nowadays? I remember buying things way cheaper than in LM, but now it's almost triple the price I find in LM.

anyone here have experience with buying in lolita wardrobe?
its my first time buying in sites like that and i have no idea what im doing or if they are really good

Antique Beast accepts international orders now, right? I tried to go through the purchasing process to order something and it takes me to the shipping options page and then asks me to select the payment option, but doesn't have a drop-down to select it, even though it says its required. Am I doing something wrong? I feel stupid here.

>>10892295
Are they actually open for orders right now? Often times antique beast is only open for like a day or two after accepting they're announcing orders, then they close.

>>10892295
They only open at specific times. Sign up for their newsletter to get the heads up

>>10892205
They are a Taobao reseller, these kinds of sites aren't necessarily scams but you're often paying a markup for a lower quality product. I recommend avoiding and putting your money to better use.
If you're new I would buy from Lace Market (secondhand from mostly Western lolitas), ClosetChild (jp secondhand vendor, in Japanese but not too hard with a web translator), or Wunderwelt (jp secondhand vendor). The yen is down so the exchange rate is really in your favor with the latter two, but LM is probably the least intimidating. Also try to find an experienced lolita to talk to as you start out since it can be hard to tell if something is a good buy when you're new.

>>10892022
Yes. you won't be arrested by the fashion police or anything but you will look silly if your shoes don't match.

>>10891364
I didn't realize, thanks anon! I don't normally include my ID unless it's a salon preorder. That's a nice surprise.

>>10892320
>>10892337
That's definitely it, I totally forgot. Thank you nonnas! I knew I was being dumb.

>>10892340
thank you so much!
i will check those sites, im going completely blind desu, im not even used to buy normal clothes online, but im excited about this

>>10892418
no problem, and don't feel dumb- I've made the exact same mistake before. Sometimes it just slips your mind.

Are kumyas hard to take care of? Do they get dirty easily and if so, how hard are they to clean? Thinking about buying my first and have only ever used pleather bags previously. Little bit concerned about using it often and it being very hard to clean.

>>10892022
You can get walking shoes that aren’t sneakers and are much cuter.
This said sneakers can look cool with lolita but generally they are fashion sneakers and not ones with any type of good support.


My question is, is it a big no no to wear a short sleeve blouse and no type of arm wear or anything with it? I don’t like wrist cuffs and I also don’t really enjoy wearing jewellery.

>>10892803
>My question is, is it a big no no to wear a short sleeve blouse and no type of arm wear or anything with it?

It's not a huge no-no. If you post a coord some people might suggest that you wear wrist cuffs or bracelets but it's not going to make or break the coord. I love wrist cuffs so much that anytime I wear short sleeves I see it as an opportunity to wear them but I also remember a time when almost no one bothered with wrist cuffs and neither did I. They've become a lot more common these days but they're still not mandatory.

>>10892803
>I don’t like wrist cuffs and I also don’t really enjoy wearing jewellery.
What's wrong with you? Also, asking this basic of a question leaves you in no place to give advice about shoes.

>>10892830

let me guess, you’re a sweetfag

>>10892697
I wash them the same as all my lolita clothes (machine wash, gentle/delicate cycle, lay flat on a towel to dry)
The only difficulty in washing them is that you have to blow dry the metal parts dry or else they'll rust. But it only takes a few minutes so not really that difficult.

>>10892803
>My question is, is it a big no no to wear a short sleeve blouse and no type of arm wear or anything with it? I don’t like wrist cuffs and I also don’t really enjoy wearing jewellery.

Depends on the coord. Probably fine to have bare wrists most of the time but if you wear sweet or are going OTT it'll look off-ballance having nothing there.
If it's looking weird that it's bare, you could throw on a simple pearl bracelet. That'd work with most styles too.

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Bought this MP shirt off mercari and I was wondering if I could get advice on how to style it. Like ideas for skirts or socks that would go with it?

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How do I make the collar stand up like the stock picture? I have this vest but mine stay flat and I'm too dumb to figure out how to make it stands up

>>10892855
peach and pastel yellow tartan semi-short skirt

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>>10892860

use a collar stay or something similar may work, they have magnetic ones if there is not a place to insert them. picture stolen from google for reference.

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>>10892863
I can see where you’re coming from with the mid 00s theming. Something like this tartan skirt from tripp nyc could possibly work?

>>10892855
Why are you buying clothes meant for literal children?

>>10892887
Obvious tourist, go back to your boards retard

>>10892890
no, mezzo piano is for actual Japanese children, and now adults are trying to squeeze themselves into clothes not made for them because of literal Japanese ageplay porn. It's gross.

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>>10892897
I know your a complete newfag so gonna spoonfeed:
> adults are trying to squeeze themselves into clothes not made for them
Mezzo Piano sizes go up to 160cm or 165cm which would be equal to a women’s size small in the us (or size m in Japan) and still have cute designs like earlier designs have. Even sizes like 120 or 130 can look good on Adults if you are petite.
> because of literal Japanese ageplay porn. It's gross.
Girls in Japanese street snaps have been using mezzo piano pieces since the FRUiTS magazine days, this is nothing new and has never been used as a fetish.

Lurk for a year before making retarded comments.

>>10892897

why do people like you always think of porn? please seek help i hope you get better

>>10892900
nayrt but
>has never been used as a fetish
lmao

>>10892907
I know that mezzo piano HAS been used as a fetish in the past. I think it was from some weird Twitter account where they would post nsfw stuff. But as far as I’m aware that’s the only instance where mezzo piano has been used for a fetish. It’s gross but I’m pretty sure that account has been inactive for years.

>>10892897
Nayrt. During the 90s and early 2000s it wasn't uncommon for women who were into cute styles to buy from clothing brands aimed at children. They did this because they thought the style of the clothes was cute and because there were fewer options for cute clothes in the past. Iirc this was one of the reasons why Emily Temple Cute was created. Apparently customers had asked the owner of Shirly Temple (or was it just emily temple? Please correct me if I'm wrong ) if they were interested in creating fashion for adults with a similar style. There was an increase in cute brands for adults during the early 2000s which lead to a decrease of women buying from brands aimed at children.

I won't deny there are people who buy kids stuff for kink reasons, but afaik this is a fairly recent thing and not as wide spread as buying kids clothes for non kink reasons was.

>>10892909
They did the same thing with Angel blue (same company that owns mp)

What's the rarest colorway for Twinkle Mermaid? Also what's the likelihood of trading the pink colorway for the black one?

I own 2011 sugary carnival set but the headbow is quite yellowed, what can I do to fix it? Products available in australia please

>>10892900
Even in the pic you posted her clothes look too small for her. Most adult women cannot properly wear it. Even thin and short teenagers buying scalped MP off Depop can wear 150-160 ok but look ridiculous in size 120-130.

>>10892948
Just accept that you’re wrong and stop baiting for attention. Fucking retarded newfag

>>10892900
>equal to a women’s size small in the us
this is not true and not how clothing works basically anywhere. clothing for children, teens and women respectively are cut differently to accommodate a general body shape. this is even the case for japanese clothing. while it may technically fit, things like sleeve length to accommodate a larger arm size even on a simple t-shirt is different. also it's definitely been a fetish, jojifuku style in general is a fetish. there's a difference between adding pieces to an outfit and wearing jojifuku.
>>10892908
>>10892905
because porn is prominent in the jojifuku community. it is more ageplay than fashion, and a lot of popular girls tame photoshoots were done on a porn set. jojifuku is either ageplay or anachan bodycheck shit or both.

>>10892952
I'm another anon, dumbass. Stop larping as le totes cultured oldfag while squeezing yourself into literal children's clothes made for 4 ft tall CHILDREN that doesn't fit your adult frame and build and makes you look like a retard, otherwise you'd know that size 165 isn't a thing.

>>10892911
The pink Colorway is definitely the most rare, so I would say that trading it for the black one is most likely to happen if a trade for twinkle mermaid were to ever come up. If you do own the pink colorway I think a trade is possible.

>>10892954
Never mind, 165 actually is a size for MP. I'm only familiar with Shirley Temple which only does 160. Still doesn't change my point that it's for children. There's a reason why ETC is cut differently from Shirley Temple, one is for teenagers/adult women and the other is for kids.

>>10892933
Have you tried any type of stain remover? I’m not Australian so I don’t know what products would work or not. If you’ve tried basic stain remover and it doesn’t work, I would look into more powerful options.

>>10892843
Wrist cuffs and jewelry are just basic accessories for lolita, how is someone calling that out a sweetfag lmao

>>10892879
abit less short, and more pastel colors if possible, but yeah that's the idea

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>>10892954
Someone is butthurt i see

>>10892960
Thank you for the advice anon, I’m not very experienced with tartan stuff but I like the idea.

>>10892961
This reply proves what point exactly? It looks like borderline ageplay. She's going to bend over and everyone's going to have full view of her ass. Are you coping that you aren't 12 or something?

>>10892961
this looks highkey retarded

>>10892967
Calling a picture from a Japanese fashion magazine “borderline ageplay” just because the person is wearing something from a children’s clothing brand is disturbing… please seek help and avoid j-fashion spaces you creep

>>10892973
>grown woman wearing literal childrens clothing that doesnt fit properly to the point where if she bends at all her ass will be exposed
>UR A CREEP IF YOU THINK THIS IS AT ALL SUSPICIOUS

nta but lol

>>10892973
Calling adult women creeps while you rummage through the children's section is very telling.

>>10892958
i agree that theyre basic accessories, but wrist cuffs specfically really only apply to OTT sweet.

>>10892958
classic rarely uses them wrist cuffs, occasionally uses jewelry but it's not mandatory and often small enough to barely show up in low res photos. they're more common in gothic, but not by much, gloves seem more popular. wrist cuffs barely existed outside of sweet at all until the OTT era, and originally they weren't even intended to be work with short sleeves (originally they were intended to add a decorative element to the end of long sleeves and knit tops, similar to false collars).

so yeah. sweet/ottfag detected

>>10892953
Love how no one is replying to the most reasonable and accurate response here. They talk about jojifuku on the farm and anons dig up it's ageplay roots with proof.

>>10892843
Not at all. I was refering to anon's weird hatred for jewelry, and the fact that obviously jewelry isn't required. The idea that anon assumes it is means she has no business giving advice.

>>10892967
>She's going to bend over and everyone's going to have full view of her ass.
i have news for you about a lot of fat, tall western lolitas...

>>10893007
>>10893007
Fatties and tall-chans shouldn’t wear clothes that are too small for them either. What’s your point? You’re still defending wearing clothes school for elementary schoolers. At least they’re squeezing into clothes made for adults not children, albeit adults that weigh 50 lbs less than them…

>>10893007
Try having an argument, idiot. No one likes them either.

love reading a bunch of women children argue about being women children. to me all lolitas are deep ageplay fetishists, you're literally dressing like baby dolls. CRINGE.

>>10893055
lolita clothing is made for adults. jojifuku is wearing second hand clothing that was made for and worn by an actual elementary or middle school child. creepy and CRINGE.

>>10892955
Nice. I own the pink colorway with the colored print, not the monochromatic one. I've been thinking about owning it in black instead, but I haven't 100% made up my mind.

>>10893055
>implying that actual children dress close to the ornateness of lolita IRL

>>10892981
Nayrt, I wear wristcuffs with old school sweet. It works.

Does anyone know a good place to print tights, preferably (but doesn't have to be) plus size? I have a couple designs I've made that I would really like to wear but it's hard to find a place and I don't trust normie reviews when it comes to quality.

how do other gulls store their cutsews, cardigans and boleros? when i fold them some of them get deep creases that need to be ironed out before wearing. do others just hang them? i'm worried that if i hang them up i'll get hanger bumps since the material is similar to sweaters.

>>10893437
I just iron my cutsews and cardigans right before I put them on, just like my other clothes.

>>10893437
I hang all my outerwear but I regularly switch them in and out of storage depending on the time of year so that probably helps avoid hanger bumps.

I generally store cutsews folded in half but minor creasing doesn't really bother me so ymmv. Cutsews with screenprints I store flat in a drawer with other irregular stuff like corsets and armwarmers.

What's the clothing styles depicted by these artists?
https://nitter.net/stdio_nameraka
https://nitter.net/x_x02_
https://nitter.net/morning_nemui

>>10893437
>how do other gulls store their cutsews
>how do you store t-shirts

I know this is the stupid questions thread but this is an actual retard tier question

tallfag here. Am I allowed to sew a similar version of existing dress?

>>10893513
Yes, even if it looked exactly like an existing dress most people think this is okay as long as you make it for yourself to wear, and aren't making it to sell.

>>10893509
Nayrt, This is not a retard tier question. It really depends on the type of knit material it is made from. Some cutsews and knit boleros stretch out after hanging for some time. Hanger bumps are also a potential issue. I store most of mine folded and if they end up developing creases (which they haven't yet) then I just iron them gently before wearing. I have a few thicker less stretchy ones that I hang up instead of storing folded.

>>10893437
i fold them on hangers like pants.

>>10893499
some of it is yamikawaii. the tracksuit stuff has a name but I don't remember it, ACDC Rag sells a lot of stuff like that: acdcrag.com/en/collections/pastel

>>10893518
Making for myself only. 5'10

>>10893538
>the tracksuit stuff has a name but I don't remember it
is it called tenshi kaiwai? it seems to involve a lot of tracksuit-similar types similar to the acdc rag stuff

>>10893550
also there's another similar fashion called jersey maid

>>10893548
Then I wouldn't worry about the morality of it. However, if your home made dress looks awful or your outfit looks awful you'll probably end up in the ita thread.

>>10893519
sorry to burst your bubble but no. If you can't figure out how to store t-shirts you are an actual, diagnosable retard

>>10893561
How do you store yours?

>>10893564
folded on shelves. I just iron before wearing them. I've had some of my cutsews for 7-8 years and I've always stored them this way and no permanent creasing has happened. like i said, some of you are actual retards

>>10893565
Folding sometimes can make prints either flake or crease, so you have to be extra careful when handling cutsews with silk prints or any other non-sublimation method. Old moitie sometimes have this kind of plastic-y kind of print, so it's not a good idea to fold cutsews, unless you're folding only the sleeves.

Cutsews with velvet details should not be folded either, as real velvet can leave permanent marks after being folded.

If your cutsew has any type of metallic acc, you should look out for rust and stains, so folding these is not really good unless you live in a really dry place.

So it all comes down to the specifics of the piece. Hanging is not a good idea, but folding also comes with some cons that should not be overlooked.

>>10893568
thats fine and dandy but I'm going to go with my life experience over your autistic nitpicking. this is on the same level as sperging over someone saying you should hang your dresses and coming in saying "but some dresses have shirred straps! you shouldn't hang those!". No shit, retard

>>10893574
It's okay, nonna. I see that it helped you, hopefully you're on time to save some of your pieces.

>>10893568
you're speaking about outliers, most cutsews are just cotton though. you should be fine folding them and putting them away in dresser drawers 95% of the time.

>>10893568
Nayrt but thank you! Those were really helpful

>>10893394
bumping this because I'm curious too

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Are there any brands that sell gothic casual clothing?
I know there's Jamie ank

>>10892981
That’s just not true and you know it. AatP, AtePie, Putumayo, and even Moitie have put out wrist cuffs and they’re certainly not making OTT sweet dresses.

>>10893713
i meant that it is really only an expectation in OTT sweet, not in any other substyle. not that other substyles don’t use it. other substyles obviously use them to a lesser extent, but it is basically expected you wear them in ott

>>10893749
nayrt but agree. even classic brands have released wrist cuffs, but that doesn't mean they're commonly worn in classic, either. ntm depending on the design, wrist cuffs from brands like moitie can easily be used in non gothic coords. wrist cuffs used to be a little more common in old school gothic substyle; in modern gothic they're less common, and more often have longer and more elaborate designs than sweet wrist cuffs, which are typically rather small. some gothic wrist cuffs are almost armwarmer sized. even then gloves seem more popular.

can I buy something directly from the btssb jp online shop and have it shipped to the US without needing a ss? if yes, is there any additional fees tacked on besides shipping cost?

>>10894027
yes you can, there's no fees

How long does it typically take to get something from Taobao from you order it and until you receive it at home? Let's just assume you use Superbuy, since that's the only SS I know about (but if it sucks and something else is much better/faster, I'm not dead set on usig it)

>>10894118
It depends on shipping method and location. I use Wegobuy and use GD-EUB method to ship packages, I've had them come to me in the southeast US as quickly as within 15 days and as late as 30-40 days.
I don't know about processing speeds. My SS is pretty fast at actually ordering items. Depends on the Taobao seller as well. Some stuff gets shipped to the SS fast, others don't and can take a while depending on manufacturing speed/availability.
Generally I say just expect about a month or 2 of waiting to be safe. If it gets there earlier then good, if not at least you were expecting it to take a while.

>>10894118
a month minimum

What exactly makes something Lolita? I visit the ita threads sometimes and I see dresses that I thought were Lolita. What about the base outfit needs to be there for it to count? Are the accessories what makes an outfit lolita? Without accessories can a dress still be Lolita?

>>10894145
Something being called ita doesn't make it "not lolita." It just means it's badly done lolita.

At the most basic level, lolita is defined by the silhouette (cupcake or a-line skirt with petticoat). The most casual lolita outfits can be missing a lot of other things but still needs to have the silhouette at a minimum.

Any recommendations for US shops that have gothic-friendly coats? I'm needing something on short notice that will do the job in winter conditions.

I have moitie's frill coat but would rather opt for something I can worry less about.

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hi!
i feel a bit ashamed asking, since i know newfags are not that well seen in the lolita community especially if looking for cheap pieces, but after some days spent researching i decided to still ask for help
can someone recommend me a cute, cheap gothic lolita jsk/dress? i love btssb and angelic pretty and i hope to get a btssb dress one day but i'm still a student and can't afford a piece more than 100/150 eur
i love full black or black with some white, i'm not prints biggest fan but i like simple ones
i love frills, bows, i love square and heart necklines, ruffles and princess sleeves
i'm searching for high waisted and over the knee pieces and i think jsk could be more versatile to me
pic related for reference
i am located in europe

>>10894539
>says she wants a gothic lolita dress
>"i love btssb and angelic pretty"
>"i love frills, bows, i love square and heart necklines, ruffles and princess sleeves"
>posts elizabeth, one of the most well known and famous sweet lolita dresses
ma'am i think you want sweet lolita. just because something is black doesn't mean it's gothic.
>can't afford a piece more than 100/150 eur
1. it's called saving up money to buy what you want 2. many brand lolita dresses are around this price secondhand.

>>10894539
at the risk of being a dead horse, have you checked lacemarket? solid pieces go for cheaper and if you aren't picky, you can probably get an older, less popular solid piece from baby or ap (and especially iw, if you're into them as well) for that price. closetchild also has some good deals often but of course shipping might push you over your budget. recommending a single piece is hard, since there's so many that fit your criteria, so it's better if you search through lolibrary with the brands you like in the filter if you want the names of specific dresses. my advice is just to look at the current secondhand sales and see what's in your budget. you don't need to go for taobao or indie unless you want to; you can def get something by baby with that budget.

also note that the dress you've posted, along with the brands you've listed, aren't gothic. sweet lolita can come in any color, including black. as a newbie, you may have a harder time differentiating gothic lolita and sweet old school in black color ways, but you'll get an eye for it after a bit.

>>10894543
>being a dead horse
lmaoo I meant beating

>>10894542
thank you anon i never tought of liking sweet lolita because overall i want to build a coord with gothic makeup and elements but now that you say it i really like black sweet lolita dresses, i'll look into it!
i'm trying to save up money but i don't have a job and i decided to wait until i finish uni because of a medical condition, i searched secondhand pieces on vinted and ebay and i can only find normie stuff, i also searched on mercari but there are mostly pricey pieces or l or more and never my size (xs)

>>10894545
Lolita OPs/JSKs don't really come in sizes. Everything is OS, and will sometimes have corset lacing and/or shirring to adjust a dress smaller or larger.

has anyone been getting lacemarket emails? i won something today but didn't get the normal email about it.

>>10894539
Best bet is Taobao brands if you want low prices like that.

>>10894580
I'm still getting LM emails. Check your spam folder

it looks like antique beast is taking orders right now, is that correct? also does she ship to the US?

>>10894624
yes, and yes. Default is EMS, but if you want a different shipping method you have to say so.

How do I restore an AP headbow that’s lace is very yellowed? Thank you

Are AP replicas on Taobao awful quality or is there any chance for them? No hate please

>>10894945
there’s no chance for You
NGMI

>>10894945
they're visibly fake. don't buy replicas, anon. it's fucked up. Shoe, bag, or maybe even sock replicas are a bit diff but dress/skirts? don't.

Coming off of a lolita hiatus, and my style has changed so I need to unload my wardrobe. How do you guys determine pricing for pieces? Obviously condition is a factor, but I want to make sure I’m pricing certain prints/pieces fairly. Don’t want to majorly undercut or overprice. Is there a good place to see past/average sale prices for certain prints?

>>10894988
i just check previous sales on lacemarket, usually within the last few months or within the past year if it's a less popular piece, and go from there.