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Reposting in the new thread. I've had the thought of crossplaying for a while, but it has to be the right character. I bought one of the Miccostumes Catwoman costumes, it actually fits me quite well and I find it comfortable but don't think I'd be brave enough to wear it in public. For something I'd actually wear to a con I've been considering Ozen from Made in Abyss, with some not too ridiculous platforms I'd actually be her character height of 2m.
Anyone know any crossplayers that are not weird to follow on social media? I'm trying to find like minded people that treat it as a hobby and not a fetish lifestyle
I myself like Nanchatte seifuku, classic lolita and Otome-kei (and like not ott kawaii clothes in general). However as of now I have only worn Nanchatte as its both my favorite and also the easiest to do due to not being elaborate/ott. Despite this Im actually not into cosplay, despite that the latter gets confused with cosplay a lot. Personally I do not like nor want to try to pass as female. I think it looks better that way and makes it easier on my end (maybe it looks like its not a fetish to people) since wearing Nanchatte is very easy for people to think you are doing it for some creepy schoolgirl fetish shit and almost all pictures of men wearing schoolgirl fetish shit, wear wigs or have long hair and try to actually look like a little girl. As far as actually wearing the clothes, the times I have worn it in public, I did not seem to get any negative response. But I cannot say too much on this as I have not actually worn it out very much for various reasons. If anyone does want to see how I style/coordinate each coord (and how I try to negate it looking like schoolgirl fetish rubbish) I will go into detail of that if you ask.And I do have a question about being a Brolita... Do you need to actually try to look female to wear lolita, or can you just do like what I currently do and not at all try to look like a female?
>>10887436hihi!im the scarlet witch crossplayer from the last thread>>10887449that seems like a good idea but honestly the wig and makeup seems pretty hard. do you have any examples of cosplayers doing her?>>10887476@gustav_cosplay from op's post is pretty goodid say also to follow some drag queens for inspo
>>10887607I have seen Ozen cosplays, but they're usually shorter girls and trying to be sexy. Ozen is absolutely not supposed to be a "sexy" character, she's supposed to be a tall, imposing presence. I've looked around online and I can purchase a wig and as I've cosplayed a drow fighter before I'm not too concerned about the makeup. Her makeup isn't very extreme, just gotta pale the skin with certain highlights and detail to make it look realistic pale. I'd just need to get a pair of platform boots with a heel to make boot covers for and I'd get her 6'7" (2m) character height. I figure heeled boots would also help my walking look more graceful/feminine/ whatever the correct descriptor would be.
>>10887573if you wear lolita as a male and don't pass, you will immediately be accused of being a predator/fetishist.
>>10887626Cheap platforms are available, but you should get demonia trinity boots.#shill idc they're nice boots and people will like you more for wearing them, it is that easy.>>10887573As a rule of thumb you should be female, and we all know we're breaking that, but if you don't want to look feminine then I'd hesitate. I don't know how to reconcile the fashion with a disinterest in being remotely femme.
>>10887630I've seen unpassing male lolita get kicked out of cons just for being "creepy"
>>10887640>Demonia trinity bootsThat'd definitely get me the height needed for Ozen but the style isn't right. It wouldn't look right with all the buckles and to put covers on them the buckles would get in the way. I have seen boots on Onlymaker that'd work and be easier to cover, I know they're Chinese so quality could be questionable but we're talking a cosplay that I'd wear only a couple of days a year.
>>10887630Well that I can expect, but at the same token I feel trying to pass off as female can come off worse? Since your impersonating a female, not just wearing female clothes. >>10887640I myself do want to look feminine, but I do not at the slightest feel comfortable trying to pass as a female. Like to put it simply, I like being more or less androgynous but not passing as a female.>>10887672I would not want to go to a con, I would just wear it casually as clothes. Cons aren't my type of thing.
>>10887573>>10887630>>10887672>>10887728Men like you hurt the EGL community. the whole fucking point of lolita fashion is to be a feminine fashion yet complete newfags like you think looking like a total man or non binary zoomer is acceptable in lolita. If you don’t wanna put in the effort to look like a woman your coords are probably shit also.
Aside from crossplay being something I just enjoy more than the normal kind, it's also a pragmatic choice. I tend to overheat pretty easily and piling on layers of clothing along with a wig is gonna make that even worse. So it gets pretty annoying when there's someone I'd like to dress as (ex. Gabriel or Kurisu), but I just don't bother since the window of time where I could wear these outfits is so tiny. For reference, I've felt like I'm overheating in costume, even when it's snowing outside
>>10887731Yes sure I do destroy it. I never once did say I actually wore Lolita, I do not even have any clothes of it, quite simply I am asking a question. I was asking if it was doable or not, to make such a claim, that I hurt the community somehow by asking a simple question, is absolutely insane. If you actually need to look like a female to wear it, then no I will not wear it. I do not like butchering styles, that just looks like shit.
>>10887672Tremendous difference between "non passing" and "ugly" anon. A cute boy with good coords willl be welcomed by everyone outside of the femcels(which nobody likes). I can say the same thing w crossplay. Ugly non passing will get you the same reaction
>>10887573>>10887743I will imply your interest is genuine and try to give you a reasonable answer to you question.The short answer is, the more feminine the better (given you actually go for lolita and not adjacent styles like male EGA etc.), and the more obvious your typically male features are the harder you will have it within the community. Bonus points for decent social skills.Long answer is due to a long history of creeps doing creepy things, large parts of the lolita community have at least become wary of males wearing lolita, with some being outright against it, although only very few will be openly vocal about it on social events or platforms due to the progressive tendency of most comms. People will leave you be for the most part if you put in the effort and objectively(!) look good in what you wear, means your coord looks decent and you groom yourself. If you manage to show some social skills and hold yourself back as well, then you are fine to go and people will leave you be. Unfortunately though, if you do not manage to get the first part right, people tend to err for the side of caution and keep their distance from you. The acceptance threshold and general standard at which you will be "measured" however varies greatly from comm to comm. And yeah, based on that it should be clear that some guys have it harder than others when it comes to reaching this goal. I would say the lolita community has very clear ideas about what it wants the fashion to be where other scenes and styles might be much more lenient and open to "unorthodox" takes.Or to put things into perspective, if you want to sport the man in a dress look, some will maybe support you from a be whoever you want point of view, but the majority will judge you for this and at worst even slander you for it from the back, even if you don't necessarily directly interact with the community, see >>10887583.
>>10887748im >>10887607 and im definetely non passing (heck im like 2m tall)I still get good reactions :D
>>10887748I am inclined to say that the actual effort put into the coord and behavior of the person wearing it, make a large difference in the reaction you get, for obvious reasons. I would say this to anyone, not just crossdressing/crossplay. Though physical presentation matters a lot for obvious reasons.
>>10887755Not the anon you replied to (I'm >>10887754), but despite >im definetely non passing (heck im like 2m tall)it still looks great. Cosplay seems very well put together and has a clean look with obvious effort put into it. Keep it up, anon!
>>10887759thanks!i was mostly agreeing with the person I quoted likei'd even say like even if you are ugly if you obviously show care (even like small things like actually steaming/ironing your cosplay) it shows :D
>>10887754Thank you for actually being polite. Yes I know of the amount of deviants that like to drag Lolita through the mud, god forbid you browse it online for long enough and you just get disgusting fetish rubbish come up. Now as to the actual effort of the coord, yes this makes a large difference as to the perception of it. Ive seen those awful images of people wearing terrible lolita "coords" that clearly arent anything but cheap garbage as well. Now, I am inclined to think that, the actual look of the coord can perhaps compensate for obviously not passing for a female. Maybe I am biased due to never seeing it on myself or like other people, but I think if you have a very good coord (like actual Lolita stuff not fetish shit or very cheap clothes) and you at least try to work with looking male and try to style it as best as possible, and you dont act like a creep, perhaps it is doable, albeit I think the amount of effort would compensate for not trying to pass as female. Which if its not done right, looks worse than man in a dress. Also as a note, I do feel passing as a female can be worse than man in a dress, perhaps not within the context of lolita but rather if you want to wear the clothing on a regular basis, to do so feels like Im pulling a SMS Cap Trafalgar where I am pretending to be something I am not, and if caught will have worse consequences than just being upfront about it. Yes maybe not the greatest analogy but I think its fitting. And yes, I know the community its behavior, but thank you for mentioning anyway lol.
>>10887759>>10887764>>10887626 here, I've always thought the cosplay/con community is the most easy going, accepting community unless you screw with us, then we're ruthless. I've always been of the mindset that if you take care and put the effort into a good cosplay people will be fine with it and you'll get great response. You've obviously put effort into Scarlet Witch and it paid off very well. For years at Otakon there was a guy who made and walked around in fabulous ballroom gowns, I don't think anyone ever said anything negative about him. This has played into me wanting to put together a good Ozen cosplay. I show up as a good Ozen who actually towers over the other cosplayers as she should, it actually helps this particular cosplay be better IMO.
>>10887756Effort matters in the sense of getting great skin, great body and other junk. Effort as in spending 593838 hours and usd on your cosplay or coords do not matter after a certain point. A genetically masculine or brutish looking guy in the best crossplay attire and makeup ever will still be worse off than a naturally pretty and androgynous looking guy with a thin and slender physique who bought a 140usd ali express cosplay and had his wine aunt do his makeup. The man wears the clothes, not the other way around.
>>10887799Well obviously, I never denied this I just think the effort part matters more than the physical body in terms of build/shape (in most cases at least).
>>10887800i agree you dont need to be the most skinny person ever (I'm >>10887755 so if I did i'd be a hypocrite) but taking care of your skin and looking healthy is importantyou're not a supermodel, you're doing this for fun at the end of the dayI think its mostly a matter of finding cosplays you suit a lotI did a Lucy (Cyberpunk Edgerunners) cosplay because I love her character, but honestly, I think I look trash as her (but will defo try to improve)
>>10887804I agree. Hell with it even fatter people can pull it off as long as they don't fight their body type and do impossible looks that only look good on thinner people. Same goes with anything else body wise, you need to work with it not against it. While I do not have an interest in cosplay I do like alternative fashion so yes, you do it because you like the clothes not due to you modeling it or whatever so, it doesn't lead anywhere to obsess over that like I've seen some people do.
Do you guys every talk about animegao kigurumi in these threads? There's a lot of crossover at least in the Asian scene so I would think so.Opinions on Kig in general? Seems like the ideal way to crossplay since the face is often the easiest way to detect someone's gender outside build- which can be modified a lot with padding and shapewear.
>>10887573you are better of trying to look as feminine as possible, it is way more fun and engaging that way too
>>10887808I don't mind kig personally - thought about it even as I like the idea of just becoming something else completely, though it feels like you have to lewd it up for it to be noticed within the realms of the community, at least, that's an impression I get. It is an investment though, so fair play
>>10887829I've only been a casual in the community for some time, having just ordered my first mask recently but I'd agree with your sentiment of lewd kigs getting the most attention. Unfortunately it also seems to be the center of a lot of drama, a number of western non-lewd kigs whine that kigs who are brand new to the scene get way more attention and build fanbases larger than oldfag kigs quickly via horny posts. They argue that it also hurts the hobby because it makes it so when you look for stuff related to kigging you'll often just find porn and fetish stuff. I kinda see their point but at the same time you're not gonna get 'normal' dudes both wanting to see and dress up in skintight zentai (Hadatai is their real name, for the uninitiated) and masks to become anime waifus, especially when as you mentioned it requires such a sizable investment in both time and money. It's also just human nature, someone wearing a mask and hiding behind internet anonymity is naturally gonna feel more free to do things they might not otherwise. Soooo you can't have your cake and eat it too imo.To me it's a simple matter of not being a retard in public- wear normal character relevant cosplay for your kig when you wanna go out and keep the super lewd shit in the bedroom and if you want, on twitter. If the kig is just doing that then why not? No different than a normal horny cosplayer in a way then. As far as I can tell that's what most of them seem to do anyway.
>>10887898Also for any anons who don't know there's always a Kig general on /jp/, "KCS". Most of the anons there are pretty cool and some kigs do pop in there from time to time.Don't tell them I told you though kek
>>10887901Yeah I pop in there from time to time maybe when I have a sizeable cushion of cash I will get a mask, though I will likely only do one character (Tifa)
>>10887800I meant more your face structure as literally anyone can just be not obese. But ig wearing a facemask and wig at all times should hide everything but your eyes if done right.
Anyone here ever use hip and butt padding to make their crossplay more curvy and believable? Thoughts on results and products to buy?
>>10889200scarlet witch here >>10887755i do yesi can recommend roanyer silicone pads that i used before but also dresstech ones because they have hip and butt pads (and it does make a difference when using both)
I've tried all the recommended ways of building an ass but I'm still Hank Hill. I don't care to have an ass for the sexual appeal, I just don't think it's very aesthetic to be flat.Have you guys tried anything that actually works?
>>10889319you can always diy with upholstery foam
>>10889319this is for kigurumi but you can use for crossdressing by using tights instead of a full skinsuithttps://x.com/gogirl_annie/status/1251914900991074305
>>10889319I made my pads out of 1" upholstery foam instead of memory foam like 10889328. Larger pad is for hip, smaller pad can be used under it for more curvyness.
>>10889313>i order expensive shityou don't fucking have to do this EVER why is this board SO FUCKING RETARDED JESUS CHRIST
>>10889637hence why i posted this also >>10889328
>>10889637nothing stopping you from posting cheaper alternatives, anon. Help your fellow crossplayers out
>>10889649it's called being creative and clever and not just getting it finished. You seriously don't need any expensive latex or some shit especially if you aren't showing skin.
>>10889637They never said you HAVE TO order them. It's okay to recommend products that you've had a good experience with, even if they are pricey.
>>10889754im the scarlet witch therei also posted this man >>10889328idk why yall so pissed
>>10889754man, simple fact is a lot of posters on this board lack critical thinking skills necessary to partake in the hobby of costuming in general and honestly here it is evident, don't give a shit for your gay sex reasons, we all have gay ass reasons for this shit, i give a shit about the effort and time you sink into it. How much you actually express and how much is your own.
>>10889761So... your point is... people shouldn't post solutions unless they're dead simple and cheap? Give a people here a little credit- they can decide if something is too expensive or takes too much effort or skill to make.
>>10889819no im just giving people every option in order for them to decideanon on >>10889637 and >>10889683 just went nuts about it and i don’t understand why
Fact of the matter is, how people decide to use their time and money is up to them and if you can provide a cost-efficient solution or any other bits of advice, the more the merrier. Even the Kig thread in /jp/ features options from the cheapest to the most expensive, decent sellers to the shitty ones, tutorials, etc. No point bitching about it, if you don't like it just don't say anything, if you can provide an alterative by all means
I crossplayed Power last week
>>10889819>>10889825the industrial revolution and its consequences...
>>10887436I want to try crossplaying an anime character for the first time but have no knowledge whatsoever about makeup, does anyone here know any guides or tutorials that could help or just tips from personal experience?
>>10890217ask a female you know to do it.Or learn the only way, the hard way, there's plenty of tutorials on yt for specific shit even specific face structures, hell, even for trannies which is useable.
>>10890217get a good understanding of how your face and its details are shaped and look for tutorials based on that on YT. There are a shitload of tutorials for just about any kind of structures as you need to work around what you have, rather than tutorials for a shape that doesn't suit your own - even the most box-shaped faces can be transformed with some effort, you will find something.After that, you just have to spend the time to practice
>>10890223>>10890253Thanks, I've seen some people who got pretty good makeup looks on their first and second tries online and some that look hideous, is there some kinda reason behind that? I dont mind practicing a lot but was just wondering so I dont make any mistakes or something. I am planning on buying products that I saw someone use on some tutorial since I have no clue what to get exactly
>>10890303Technique and lack of understanding usually - some people get the idea right away whereas others just apply makeup without applying any logic at all. Makeup becomes real straight-forward with practice though for certain areas like eyeliner, you need to be precise otherwise you will sometimes layer more than you need.If anything, you should also find videos where MUAs also point out mistakes people make, and see if all of that makes sense to you. Once you are good with makeup, you should feel confident with doing a bunch of crossplay styles if you end up doing it more than once and maybe even impress people if you intend to put the work in
I would love to crossplay as her.Does anyone know where I could find her outfit? As for the wig, I could get any regular purple wig and restyle it a bit. The headband is pretty easy to obtain. But I would need to get an outfit that's pretty identical to hers.Lucky Star is a pretty old anime, so I am not counting on the "big cosplay stores", where they sell mainly modernshit slop.
>>10890497>google "lucky star uniform">bunch of results
Thinking about crossplaying a 2hu character and will probably buy a costume and get makeup done to see if i like it. To those of you who’ve bought costumes, did you go for male sizes or female sizes as a male? Im a pretty skinny and slightly under average tall male, so i dont know if i’d be able to get away with female sizes considering the male physique is still technically there, but not that obvious. I noticed a small handful of sellers selling male sizes for the female character too, but the large majority (and cheaper) are female only. Also, how do you manage hiding male shoulders to look feminine?
>>10890836I get male size and it fits fine. If they offer it, go for tailored costumes - of course, if you are buying costumes, play it safe first with an order and if you are happy with the fit and the quality, try and get a better fitting one.
>>10890836i wouldn't personally crossplay touhou. you'll get mistaken for a woman and get hate from brouhous if you pull it off. that community has a lot of toxicity despite being mostly men in dresses. to answer your question tho, pick a character without poofy sleeves which will make your shoulders look bigger and instead has a floofier skirt.
>>10890886>tailored customesThey do offer those, yeah, but i think ill play it cheap for my first time and go for standard male sizing. Thank you.>>10890923I doubt there are (m)any touhoubros in my area, its also a small con with friendly people from my experience. I was thinking about doing yuyuko, since i love her design, and it would hide most of my skin too.
>>10890924yuyuko is probably a good design. it's bottom heavy with large sleeves. and not much need for lower padding. small cons are generally better, but there are a lot of horror stories from large touhou comms.
>>10890931thanks a lot fren
>>10890923Being skinny doesnt make your face pass even remotely. Jesus fuckin christ
>>10890836I personally went for male size, but I went for a fully tailored touhou dress
>>10890945I will work on it with makeup, but im only worried about my big nose, which i dislike.
>>10890497This is the one I got for my kagami cosplay (pic related). Nice and cheap and the quality is good. I'd probably just reccomend ording a size larger since it's pretty tight on the shoulders.https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLl3uMC
>>10887436Any recommendations for crossplay/crossdressing discord servers that are not fetish ones?
>>10891075the link in OP
>>10890932your welcome. also if you aren't too good at makeup you can make use of her fan.
>>10891075I personally recommend against joining any of them.
>>10891112yeah i was thinking about doing that to hide my jawline that gives it away
>>10891075The biggest issue with a lot of crossdressing/crossplay discords is that they are invariably filled by trannies over time, either because a lot of the members realized they were trannies all along (really, the fear of twinkdeath caught up with them) or just because they want to insert themselves into the community.I've wanted to make one myself for a while that keeps the trannies out (/lgbt/'s /femgen/ does a similar thing), but I have no idea how to go about spreading it around.
>>10891485It needs to be understood this is always going to happen, there is no avoiding it. Some people will go full-blown trans, some will just disappear over time as they fall out of love with it...you have to take the good with the bad. I generally just get on with it and do my own thing, it doesn't have to be too connected much of the time and not many people will share your pattern of thinking. Besides, some people may feel anxious about joining groups as they will constantly be judged no matter what
>>10891485ALL crossplayers are gay, trans, closet gay, closet trans or a fetishist. I'd rather have people who are honest to themselves than some creepy fetishist or closet case (super likely to be rapists due to repression) >nah bro im a super straight alpha male who wears frilly dresses and makeup as an innocent hobby and its just a coincidence I picked thisback to the redpill and trap subreddit with you, incel
>>10891609bro theres nothing wrong with men wearing dresses and makeup“oh it must be trans, gay or fetish”, backwards ass mentalityimagine if like every woman who crossplayed as male characters was like “oh youre crossplaying? that must be a fetish!” but you dont go around saying it do you?
>>10891612This anon gets it. Pigeonholing people or yourself is just asking for trouble really, just do your own thing however you want, there are plenty of guys out there that like wearing dresses and makeup and there are some of them still that are well-adjusted or at least, don't make a big stink out of it. Own that shit and yes, people will respect you more if not a little if you put the time and effort into it
>>10891612You mean those teen girls who are all fujos obsessed with bl on tumblr?Yeah theyre adjacent to you porn addictrd trap fetishists.
>>10891075I've been playing with the idea of making a Touhou cosplay server for Discord, but it's both niche and dealing with Discord drama seems like a pain. However, I do always enjoy getting to talk with other Touhou crossplayers and learning from each other.>>10890836>>10890923I crossplay Touhou in Japan, and everyone is extremely friendly and kind. Sounds like a Western cosplay community issue sadly. Go with male sizing, as female proportions could screw you over. However, get it custom tailored if you can, mine wasn't and it fits a little bit awkwardly sadly.Yuyuko is a fun choice and probably good for beginners, I hope you have fun with it Anon!
>>1089162199% of fujos become transmen.
>>10891621I'm okay with this. >>10891698I'm less okay with this.
Have you guys ever gone to cons with friends while crossplaying? I don’t really care about what strangers think, but some of my friends are vocally transphobic and it’d really be annoying if they took it as me being trans or anything like that.
>>10891931yes but my friends also either crossplay or arent transphobic so cant help you there buddy
>>10891931Yup but only with certain friends. I've got one group that knows and is perfectly okay with me wearing maid outfits to cons, and another group that if they knew I'd rather shotgun my head off
>>10891931But of course. With friends, with strangers, at conventions, at NOT conventions, with people who clearly aren't a fan of it. No one's ever given me shit. I'd like to think that's cause I'm too much in the zone to flinch even if they did complain
>>10891931I always go by myself, but I got friends openly transphobic and they know I have been crossplaying and crossdressing for years and the friendship still holds pretty tight. I'd love to bring them to cons and have a great time but I moved to another city years back
>>10891931Yes, it wasn't too bad. I go to events by myself now though and enjoy everything all the same. If you are in the zone like >>10891947 says you just get on with it. When I went home one time as Baiken with boobs on display like in her artwork it felt good and it was pretty great, if Baiken doesn't give a fuck neither should I
>>10887436I was Roberta from Black Lagoon for a con. I went with a light brown lipstick and went easy on the foundation.
>>10891612anon costume-making is a form of art and part of being an artist is just accepting that some people will call you literally insane in any potential or applicable form.
>>10891931Ever tried just getting friends that arent pieces of shit? Doubt you get anything out of hanging out with em in the first place. >>10891936
>>10891931i am transphobic and my friends are transphobic and being actually retarded is different from just fucking around
>>10891931my transphobic friends see me as more of a man for it, but probably because I don't give a fuck rather than that I'm wearing a skirt
>>10892258this too, it takes balls to be able to pull off both looking, moving and like a woman.i feel female crossplayers miss the "get into character" memo
How do I un-ugly myself for this? Makeup doesn't seem to help and my legs are really unappealing. It's difficult to find a person to consult for this kind of thing.
>>10892410my first impression is maybe some more weight, you seem a bit skinnny and some (NOT MUCH MIND YOU) fat on the arms and legs might help
>>10892318idk what you mean by moving like a womanbut im pretty gay myself so ig it comes naturally
>>10892410Use pantyhose that are skincolored for a more uniform skintone for your legs. For actual facial structure, unless you're open to full on plastic surgery and you're unsatisfied with makeup (learn your techniques), you should just accept who you are. Crossplaying is about mimicking a woman, but it's not about being perfect. As long as you're having fun.Last thing I would recommend is practice taking pictures and figuring out what angles work best for you, what poses and facial expressions, and so on.
>>10892410You honestly look fine. If you are concerned about your legs I would suggest white pantyhose with darker shoes. Perhaps as some other anon said, get some volumen in your legs.
>>10892410Petticoat Eyeliner/MascaraAn outfit that isn't $10
>>10892452seconding petticoat it works wonders and elevates any cheap cosplay
>>10892427i honestly don't know it's also natural for me
>>10892411I wasn't sure if my bony looking arms/knees/legs were because I run or because of my body weight. Gaining weight's difficult for me but if it'll help me look less goblin-like I'm open to it.>>10892436Thanks, this is a lot to work with.>>10892438Darker shoes? For the contrast or something?>>10892452It's got the texture of a parachute, I'm not a huge fan of it but had never considered a petticoat.
>>10892549>Darker shoes? For the contrast or something?Correct. The contrast and the pantyhose will make your legs look sleek and elegant. Generally it is better for footwear not to be too light in color, besides, a darker color that suits Chen's hair will make the cosplay look balanced and people will check it out from head to toe and the gaze will linger in the dress.
>>10892549supplement your regular diet with ensure or boost shakes, they taste alright and are great for putting on weight in a relatively healthy way
Hi I’m new to 4Chan so I do not know how it works but I saw this and I wanted to ask if someone has some tip to how look more masculine with makeup
>>10892410I think you actually have a pretty good facial structure based on the picture. More practice with makeup will make a difference- eyeliner, lipstick & contour.Part of crossplay is showing off your more feminine features and hiding the more masculine ones. Pick a character who wears tights and long gloves to smooth out your arms & legs. Bangs are a good choice for you. An outfit that's tighter at the waist with a poofier skirt (petticoat as >>10892452 and >>10892496 recommend) or hip pads will also give you a more feminine shape.Your pose in this picture is working against you. You're hunched over with knees bent and your hand out like a claw- this exaggerates all your muscles & tendons.
Is there an age where you consider yourself too old to do this? I'm gonna be 27 soon and never felt brave enough to do this until now and I feel like I missed the deadline.I'm pretty short if that's anything.
>>10892658There are people at the events I go to who can do it well enough at age 50. Additionally skincare and cosmetics are improving. (If you are reading this and not using tretinoin, stop and order some to use now). It's feasible that reverse-aging will happen within our lifetime.The idea of being too old to crossplay is just doomposting, quite frankly. If anything, let your desire to crossplay encourage you to stay healthy to keep your body young.
>>10892659That's really reassuring, thanks. Been taking better care of my skin and health in general these days, just scared of twink death that people joke about. I figure makeup and cosmetics can do a lot heavy lifting as I get more proficient with it though.I'm around 5'7" so I think it's a decent height to crossdress/crossplay as my favorite characters, so I've been reading through the sticky a ton which has a been really helpful. Thanks again anon, I'll look into tretinoin too.
>>10892660Twink Death is partially a meme, and partially caused by people (who aren't even trying to be twinks 99% of the time) not taking care of their body. Letting fear of it limit what you do is so much worse than it. And honestly, at 5'7' and not even 27 yet if you have decent genetics and you're not fat, you've got nothing to fear.If you need a whitepill, look up pictures of 20 and 30 year olds in the 1950s and 60s. People aged like lightning in those times due to things like smoking, different healthcare and skincare practices (usually nonexistent), fucking tanning, and more. If you're not terribly unlucky with your genetics and keep yourself in good health, you could probably look like you're in your 20s by age 40 just with what we have today. That's 15 years to do what you love MINIMUM, not even taking into account what technology we'll have by that time period. And even if you do end up looking older, who cares? You can still crossplay and crossplay well, and have fun. Only difference is you may decide to use selfie filters.tldr: Avoid sunlight, use tretinoin, stay healthy. Fear of twinkdeath is infinitely worse than twinkdeath.Good luck Anon, I started crossplaying at literally the same time you did and while I regret not starting it sooner, I would regret it even more if I let that fear keep me from doing it.
>>10892658my nigger in christ, Im about to hit 30, I started crossdressing at 25 and crossplaying at fucking 28 and I can see myself doing this for 20 more years. Doing this will only motivate you to work out, keep yourself tight and learn how to pretty yourself up.
at what point is crossdressing weird? i like imagining characters, and one is a girl in a spacesuit and i've been thinking of doing her mostly cause i have a space helmet that i need to finish and the suit won't be hard, but at that point the focus is the suit but i mean why not? I look good with makeup and my friends know the character.
I recently acquired .05% Tretinoion. I know some people are very sensitive to it, but I applied some last night before bed and my skin seems fine so far. I've seen several different approaches to their PM routines, including only doing Tret once a week. Does anyone here have any recommendations? Would this routine work nightly?I was thinking:1. Cleanser2. Vit C Serum3. Tret, wait 30m4. Cerave PM
>>10892658I start my fifth decade next year, anon>>10892705its only weird if you make it weird
>>10892738Pure C (ascorbic acid) or a C derivative, and what concentration? Pure C goes less well with tret than derivatives in my experience. Sensitization doesn't always happen right away with tret but once it gets going, it is hard to calm down. I do cleanser - watery toner - peptide serum - cosrx snail power essence - .05 tret (nightly) - laneige sleeping mask and I save my ascorbic acid for the morning, when it has the added benefit of boosting sunscreen.
>>10892752This stuff. I'm not sure if it's pure or derivative.Do I need a toner before applying tret? I've read others saying it's necessary to have something down beforehand.
>>10892762It's pure; second ingredient is ascorbic acid and it says concentration is 10%, which is mid-high. If you have even a hint of redness after cleansing or flakiness towards the end of the day, switching the C serum to the morning is a good move. To minimize irritation, you could also do every other day on the tret, or MonWedFri, etc. You might also be just fine with daily and combining with the C.You don't need a toner, however, having damp skin before tret will enhance absorption so it works better, the same way a wet sponge picks up more from the counter. "Working better" can be good or bad, depending on your sensitivity. I am closer to 40 than 30, I have dry/combo skin, and I'm trying to double up on the anti-aging by using both peptides and tret, so I personally prefer more product layers.In the end, skincare is part science and part personal preference/function, so it's ok to experiment as long as you really tune in to results.
>>10892742>its only weird if you make it weirdthis is true
>>10892819i feel like its weird more because i look like shit than my attitude
>>10892822my costumes never look like shit, though, this is the only thing i am actually good at.
>>10892822this is what you need to fix then - it's not a race either, so take as much time as you need to develop your shit. If you put enough time and respect into what you do, you should be rewarded in kind, I have yet to see someone pour in the work and be absolutely shat on, even by randos on the street
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>>10892867get your brows sorted out and you’d look really good, lucy
>>10892919>lucylol thankswhat shape would (you) recommend?
>>10892944idk man its really up to you just mentioning you need to clean them up
so i know carneval is in like 3 months and it's too early to worry but i am torn between crossdressing again or the haloween costume i made for this year that a) looks good and b) took me like 4 months of tedious work to make and is thus sacred to me, but it's unwieldly and easily fragments due to the limited choice of material i had to achieve what i wanted but i mean i can't just wear it oncr and shelve it man.on another note i need to stop getting stoned every night
>>10892658>Is there an age where you consider yourself too old to do this?No, largely depends on your proficiency in self-care, makeup, choosing the right outfits for your size etc.. As the other anon pointed out, people today have much broader possibilites to take care of themselves and visibly age much slower than decades before. So use it to your advantage.Also admittedly, if you're being serious about it, it's becoming pretty expensive quickly and most people in the west don't make decent money until they're in their mid to late 20s, so yeah....>>10892705It's only weird if you make it weird. Figure out what suits you and what you can get away with.
>>10893330Are you a kraut? Also for carnival I would honestly consider points like practicality and durability. I'm going to assume you'll be out with friends and drink a fair bit, possibly over the course of multiple days as well, so I wouldn't go for anything too intricate, but for an outfit with good wearability. Also it's likely going to be cold af especially at night, so think of options on how you want to keep you body warm. Any specific costume you have in mind?
>>10893371not kraut but it's also way more casual where i live and that is a good thing for anything fragile. Eagle warrior, full feathered headdress, pheasant, turkey and seagull. plus tons of reeds and shells. It's a showpiece man anything else is so casual
>>10893381...plus it will be the first time plenty of people will see me in costume and i need to assert dominance
Never been to a convention and just crossplayed in my house. What do you usually do there? Is it uncomfortable or awkward?My voice is pretty deep too so I'm kinda nervous to just walk around or potentially strike a conversation.
>>10893573>What do you usually do there?For first timers, it's usually about the vendors, panels, soaking in the general atmosphere>Is it uncomfortable or awkward?Like anything in life, it's as uncomfortable and awkward as you make it. But if you're asking "will people harass me?", that's pretty much always a hard no>My voice is pretty deep too so I'm kinda nervous to just walk around or potentially strike a conversation.No one's expecting you to stay in character. Also, if you pull it off well enough, you won't have to worry about approaching people since they'll do it for you
>>10893573There is too much to say about cons for someone who has never been to one. Its only awkward if you make it that way. Dress your best, put effort into what you're doing and know how to talk to people and you'll be fine and have a great time. You can get away with looking like crap too if you have the charisma to make it work. Also how have you never been to one you're missing out so much, get you going
>>10893573Don't worry about having a masculine voice. Most people won't care- and if they say anything it'll probably be expressing surprise that you're a guy.Cons are so much fun. Wander the vendor hall, go see (or participate in) a group photoshoot, check out some panels, go to a concert (if they have one), get to any special events that look cool (costume contest, pajama party, lolita fashion show, whatever!) Try everything, you never know what you're going to like. But be sure spend some time hanging out in a large social space and check out what other cosplayers have made. There are some awesome costumes out there.You'll pretty much guaranteed to have fun.
>>10893640i got hit on and even then i wasn't beaten up and i live in a very 40-years-in-the-past place
>>10893573You make me curious what you and the others here sound like. I don't suppose you guys want to vocaroo some samples.
>>10893573>What do you usually do there?What >>10893578 >>10893640 said. At the basic level, you enjoy the vendor booths, the panels, concerts, enjoy the feeling of having a ton of people around you that are the same as you and to some degree meeting people as well. There's of course much more to explore, but those things often depend on the con and location.>Is it uncomfortable or awkward?Maybe, if you feel uncomfortable indulging in your hobby. Otherwise not really. Might take a bit to get used to the environment there if you've never been to a nerd con, but once you're in the vibe, it's quite enjoyable.>My voice is pretty deep too so I'm kinda nervous to just walk around or potentially strike a conversation.At least on con grounds there's nothing to worry about. People are well accepting since everyone's to some degree aware what it means to be slightly out of the norm. Same goes for crossdressing, it's become much more common on cons to see guys crossdressing, whether ironically or seriously. As long as you have fun and don't give off the vibe you wish you were somewhere else far away now, you will be fine. If you pull it off well enough, people will approach you on their own since most of them are just hyped to see a familiar character at the con.IMO just have an open mind for the new experience and let it get to you. Everything else will come together on its own. At the end of the day, having fun is all that matters.