The very embodiment of Elegance, post your Victorian style maids here.
nothing elegant about these cheap polyester messes, how many times are you going to make this retarded thread
>>10841015Yet here you are, who's the stupidest ?
birthday more in shinjuku, i'd love to go someday
some recent maid-inspired lolita from innocent world
>>10841045I already went to Wonder Parlor in IkebokuroNext on my list is Secret Chamber and Birthday more.
>>10840935I can barely see the shoes but they look so good and I want them
>>10840932Great taste, Kobayashi-san
>>10841158Kobayashi-san is my spirit animal
thinly veiled coomer thread
>>10841209Care to elaborate ?
I would like to sew my own one day, what is a good place to find tailor's cuts for such things?
>>10841328No clue, but you can buy some quality ones here (Japan only) :https://fritillaria.easy-myshop.jphttps://radiant-liberty.jimdofree.com/maid/
>>10841331Even through I'm yuro, this made me get better idea about what exactly I'll be doing. So, I think that the upper part could be easier for me to buy somewhere here (in better quality than whole maid dresses sold here). So my main focus will be finding decent fabric for the skirt. Actually, I'd normally buy maiddress on amazon or something, but the quality is terrible and they look tacky, even through I'll be getting it out of closet like twice a year, solely to have at least proper costume. By the way, as an complete newbie, is the skirt on this screenshot on petticoat or does it just stay like this?
would be a better thread if there were actually photos of victorian maids and not chinks in taobao dresses
>>10841668Ladys and Gentleman : The Elitist snob
>>10841668agreed, they look super cheap
>>10841668I would love to see a actual Victorian maid then.
>>10841689Care to elaborate why you think that?
>>10841690>>10841668historical photographs can hardly be called cosplay, though (here's a school uniform, not a maid uniform)
>>10841691nayrt, but I'll try my best to explain. It's a couple things working in tandem:Cheap fabric, and drape: the number one indicator of cheap fabric is usually sheen, and in many taobao photos etc it's edited down but still visible. You can tell by the drape and texture when something is made of cheap poly. >>10841183is seethrough at the hem and you can see the "spotty" texture on the dress. >>10841023is the same. you can see a visible puckering hemline. In this same vein, something that is heavy and good quality will have a certain drape to it. Because of the quality of the finish, you can tell that whatever fabric it's trying to imitate is not "true" even if it is meant to be a light fabric, like linen. This also is seen in the amount of fabric used. compare the amount of gathers and how they are separated. Is it even on both sides? does it lay well? This problem can be especially apparent at waistlines of aprons because something feels a bit "off" and can't quite be explained.two: fitmenta lot of these garments are made in a way to fit as many of a size as possible without actually thinking about how it looks on the person. The way the fabric sits and fits on >>10841815is not nearly comparative to any in the thread. The way massed produced aprons sit on a larger or smaller bust, the armscyes sitting wide like in >>10840934 meaning that when you raise your arms it inherently feels restricting. the fit of the shoulders. These were things that were adjusted and fine tuned in a "victorian style" outfit made for work. It is painfully obvious when something is "off the rack" and made in a modern style of cheap mass produced patterning.This is not to say everyone needs to go all out and try their hardest to be historically accurate. These things read as cheap on any garment only to a trained eye unless it's all together. We've just been so fucked with we can't understand quality anymore until we actually do research.
>>10842029nyart, but thank you for the thoughtful and detailed response. i'd like to train myself better to discern garment quality, so reading your perspective was interesting
>>10842048no problem non! I know it can be difficult to tell things when the number one indicator is touch- touching a fabric and feeling it on our skin is the easiest way to tell between materials and their quality. It really helps if a piece has a lot of close up pictures- that's why so many lolitas post detail pics in their reviews.
>>10842029I don't want to be "that guy" but your analysis is wrong, the dresses you described as "cheap" are made of Amundsen, AKA 100% cotton.It does look like poly to the untrained eye but hey, at least you learned something today.
Here is a closeup too >>10842029
>>10842114The dresses look like cheap hotel napkin material. If all you know is cotton good poly bad you don't know anything about fabric. Anon's overall points about thickness and drape are correct.
>>10842114You learn something new everyday! Thank you for telling me non. The closeup for sure helps. I didn't expect it to be made of amundsen- isn't amundsen usually used for more intricate patterns? It doesn't really seem like "maid" fabric.
>>10842338I'm so sorry mr.Expert, you clearly are a fabric professional and not some snobbish pseudo elitist.
>>10842347From what I can read on the seller's website, he chose amundsen because of it's slight sheen and suppleness. I think it gives a nice appearance despite being historically inaccurate.
>>10842114If you have spent any time browsing major cosplay fabric stores in Japan, you'll know that Amundsen is commonly made of polyester now for cost and appearance. Amundsen cotton still exists plenty, but usually the solid colored stuff marketed to cosplayers is polyester and it's not an expensive fabric. Previous anon is still right.
>>10842389If you actually took the time to check the pictures you would see the fabric is clearly not the same
>>10841060Is that sum Emma cosplay?Emma was how I ended up here from iichan.
>>10842475Dude it's got that synthetic sheen all over it. You see how it's reflecting the light in the close-up? I'll eat my hat if that's a natural fibre.
>>10842560nta but do you know anything about fabric? tons of natural fibers, including cottons have sheen, ever heard of cotton sateen?
>>10842567yeah but cotton amundsen is not supposed to have a sheen.
These outfits look gorgeous but who would actually do any cleaning or chores in one? Wouldn't it just get unbearably hot and be difficult to move in, not to mention getting your expensive clothes dirty??Seems more like a costume desu
>>10842569incorrect. japanese amundsen has a sheen. pic related.
Why are none of the maids wearing proper undergarments? And why no sleeve covers? You wouldn't want to get your sleeves dirty on the only dress you are allowed to own. Also what's with the head bit? Put on your damn cap; your long, hanging hair is slutty.
>>10842633It's not "slutty", it was considered immature and appropriate only for young girls under 16. It's also completely impractical for this position. No one wants hair in their food by the women making and serving it.
>>10842573Nta but the sheen seems pretty comparatively subtle to the pic >>10842115Provided- I'm not really sure what to take from this exchange.
>>10842633This is /cgl/ not /his/Now piss off
Has anyone got good patterns they've made maid outfits out of? I love the big full look but I'd rather have control and make it myself from a good cotton
>>10842029cool story, bro.
>>10840932>The very embodiment of Elegance* cheap sex slaves
>>10841689I'm not gonna enter in the many ways you are wrong about they being cheap, and I'm gonna humor you and asume they were (just for the sake of argument).Have you, perchance, realized the maid costumes are, well, *MAID* costumes? They are MEANT to be cheap, you bloody retard. A maid costume made in a wonderful, expensive, gorgeous clotning i just... wrong, about as wrong as a Victorian-era cavalry regiment colonel dress uniform made in polar fleece and pleather, or a Sailor Moon cosplay made for your size.Now kindly go went your frustrations somewhere else, like /r9k/.
>>10843318>he thinks maid dresses weren't expensive or high quality in the victorian erafucking kek. maids and servants had a wide variety of fabrics and styles meant to establish hierarchy and present the wealth of the household. they were also often made of easily washable materials which were more expensive at the time. so making them cheap and tacky is extremely inaccurate. also imagine thinking costumes should be cheap crap on a fucking cosplay board. sounds like you need to go back.
do you prefer the traditional white apron and black dress combination or something different?
what historical reenactors aim to achieve is completely different from the fantastical aims of some photographers and "victorian" maid cafes like birthday more and wonder parlor-- it's an ahistorical fantasy of a mystical britain that never existed. it's not meant to replicate historical reality
the deep blue dress is also beautiful
>>10843373perhaps you misunderstood what i was saying? i have equal respect for both groups, i just find it unsuprising that maid cafes have ahistorical costumes. anyways, i hope your day gets better
>>10843325This and to add, if something is meant to be an appreciation thread why the fuck would you want to see cheap crap, >>10843318The ideal maid still gives a fuck about appearance- especially if this is a fantasy like at these cafes.
Thoughts about maids with boots?
>>10842567Of course. As someone else pointed out, it's the way the light reflects, not that it's reflected at all.
Wherst the fuck can I get a cute, quality maid dress? No taobao bullshit
>>10844012Find a reseller who will ship you one from>>10841331
>>10841331wait I just looked at this and realized>>10842114wtf non it literally says on the store page its poly amundsen
Post maids wearing gloves, please.