It's been a while. Hope you had fun in your substyle threads. It's time to return to the motherland.
Fundraiser for 2 dresses, in a collaboration between LOCOCO and Fukasawa Midori. One OP is made of Bishu wool, the other (pic related) is made of velvet. Both materials are produced in Japanese factories.https://readyfor.jp/projects/BishuLolitaFukasawaMidoriIt's already fully funded, deadline for supporting the fundraiser is 30th September, 11 pm JST. There are items other than the 2 OPs, including matching hair accessories and a bag.
>>10807537The wool OP: Suberbe, la Robe Noir
More complaints about JetJ quality
>>10807551>>10807552it doesn't look any different though.
>>10807572The ruffles aren't as densely sewn
>>10807572The ruffles on the stock photo/sample(?) looks like they were cut along the selvedge, but the ones on the customer photo like it was cut on the cross grain. Which makes the ruffles stick out and look a lot less neat and uniform. Also like >>10807584 said they don't look as densely gathered either.It's a small detail, but imo it looks way cheaper in the customer photo
>>10807537Those prices are absolutely bonkers, but the wool looks gorgeous
>>10807678sorry im dumb as hell where are the prices
>>10807683nevermind mobile site kept crashing i found them
>>10807552The bottom one looks like a China made replica kek. I wonder how JetJ will survive now that they've alienated most of their remaining Chinese customers with their shit quality. They don't even seem that popular with Western or Japanese lolitas anymore.
Every time I see a girl that is ingrained in the community wearing one of the 2010 AP dresses that aren't steadfast, they are faded to shit and looks like complete garbage because no amount of careful washing is going to *not* fade the dress dye.Just as a fyi to the newfags, anyways. It looks like shit.
>>10807733this is just wrong
>>10807741it's not, your faded AP print looks like shit.the irony in this is I don't doubt you are one of the people who refuse to buy the machine washable prints that AP releases now.
>>10807639it's not a small detail it really bothers me
>>10807744Anyone who thinks it's a "small detail" probably buys most of their clothes from TJ Maxx
>>10807733I'd rather have that people participate in meets with wash their items, even if it fades them.What a dumb thing to care about that others are wearing faded dresses.
>>10807733>>10807743nah anon I think about this every time I see Milky Planet et al go for $70k. Most of these pre-2014 sweet prints have badly deteriorated compared much older lolita/jfash pieces. Partly it’s the nature of the dyes/material but mostly no one really cared to ‘preserve’ them and that’s not even a criticism t b h, they were worn and enjoyed and hung up on open clothing racks and mannequins in direct sunlight. I think they can look cool on edited instagram pics but irl they look like old bed sheets.
>>10807749>I think they can look cool on edited instagram pics but irl they look like old bed sheets.this. yes.I'd much rather look at and wear something that isn't faded, personally though. 2010s aesthetic be damned. it doesn't look great when it's faded to shit
>>10807743no, i mean you can prevent fading, you idiot. people who treat their prints like regular cotton are the ones with fucked shit.
>>10807749>hung up on open clothing racks and mannequins in direct sunlightThis, I always think it looks nice to display but it's so dumb in terms of longevity.It's not just prints, even solids will fade (unevenly) when displayed in sunlight.
I'm so paranoid about my dresses getting faded and shitty from washing so I only wash the nasty parts under the arms and around the neckline. Is that gross? I think I smell fine.
>>10807726Most of their stuff these days looks like overdesigned tacky taobao with ugly prints anyway. Not surprised their popularity is waning.
Did the MI comm turn 16 this year and have a celebration tea? Or was that a members sweet 16?
>>10807768Your dresses will get damaged over time from oils from your hair and skin. Don’t wash them every single time you wear them, but clean them every few wears. I usually wear a camisole below OPs to minimize skin contact.>>10807748Seriously, what’s with the influx of disgusting newfags who expect their clothes to be completely perfect forever? It’s possible to keep your in clean and unstained condition, but thinking your clothes will stay brand new after 5-10 years is some conlita shit. If you actually wear the fashion and dress up for more than IG photos or shitty tiktoks, expect your clothing to show a little wear.
>>10807795this. people have forgotten the art of the spot treatment. there are velveteen dresses with embossed appliqués that have zero whole-wash methods, and spot treatment is the only way. Circus Puppet runs into this problem consistently. Maintaining quality is also a part of the upkeep process. repeat washing your dresses is lazy. Luxury pieces in fashion require luxury care. So many of the MM and VM pieces that have circulated for 10-15 years have maintained their quality because classic lolitas have had to figure out how to maintain the close proximity dyed florals.(But also the dress quality is better than AP so that helps kek)
>>10807806>Circus Puppetreasons why you should take everything said here with a grain of salt
>>10807807some of us actually speak more than one language, also not a sweetfag if you could not tell. also what part of what I said is incorrect? Spot treatment is a real method to maintain quality of dresses.
>>10807808i speak multiple languages too, retard. i also wear multiple substyles and have receibed MM dresses in absolute shit condition before. just admit you have no idea what you’re talking about and go
>>10807806Circus Puppet? Go back, ESL larp chan.
>>10807808enjoy your stinky dresses.
>>10807808Lmfao Circus Puppet because you’re ESL, right. Tell us more about how you don’t wash your Magdalene Mary and Maiden Victorian dresses, larper-chan
Is it just me or is the online comm kind of dead lately
>>10808120all the nice lolitas were invited to the secret invite only lolita imageboard. you're stuck with the itas because you sinned.
>>10807746This describes most lolitas I know, to be honest. I don’t trust reviews without tons of detailed pictures because anything that doesn’t rip apart during the first wear is hailed as “amazing quality”. Even diehard brandwhores often can’t articulate exactly what makes their burando higher quality than off-brand. Lolitas will claim that what sets lolita apart from other fashions is an emphasis on quality, then turn around and buy from SouffleSong or Lady Sloth.
>>10808229Google's translation:Thank you for your continued patronage. We sincerely apologize for the fact that the mass-produced product of "flower in a vase op" that we sent to you was different from the sales sample (the gathers on the neckline and cuffs are different from the sample photo). Today, when I checked with the production factory, the cause is as follows. The handling of the gathered parts and the way of arranging after sewing are different from the first edition, so the result of this resale product is different. We deeply regret that there were inadequate points in the finish of the product, and we apologize for that. Therefore, we will respond to the return and repair of the product as soon as possible. *For customers who have already shipped products and wish to return or repair them, please contact us by either shop mail or Weibo (to prevent mistakes, contact us Please select only one). After confirming, please return the product you received. When contacting us, please be sure to provide us with your order number, registered shipping name, and return address (you can also attach a screenshot of your order). *In addition, as a result of consulting with the customer's factory that has not been shipped, we will temporarily discontinue all products currently in production and those scheduled to be produced in the future in order to correct the gathered part. As soon as the corrected product is completed, we will ship it as usual, so we are very sorry, but please wait for a while. *In regards to the fabric and pattern, we received a question as to whether the material and pattern of the reissued product had changed compared to the first edition. Therefore, please note that the fabric produced this time is slightly different from the one used in the early days). (1/2)
>>10808232Next, let's talk about the cuff design. When it went on sale for the first time, many customers commented that it felt cramped because the cuffs had no elasticity. There is no change in the overall shape and pattern of the dress, so we hope you will understand. *Delivery after modification Due to the large number of items ordered this time, we will inform you of the official delivery date in advance while consulting with the factory. We apologize for any inconvenience caused to our customers, but we will do our best to produce products that will please our customers, so we appreciate your understanding. We will strive to strengthen our production and quality control in the future, so please accept our apologies. We are very sorry for this inconvenience. We appreciate your continued patronage.(2/2)
>>10807817>>10807811>>10807817calling a person a larper for a switched dress title name (despite the literal description being accurate; plush material with embossed appliqués) truly shows the level of brain rot within the sweet community. you people are fucking retards if you think washing your entire dress consistently after each time you wear it is suitable care. Just admit you don’t shower before you go out stinky chans
>>10808301calm down retard.
>>10807539First time seeing these pics. Is she standing in a factory?
>>10808474Yes, it looks like she is in the factory the fabric is made. What you seen in the background are looms.
>>10808489im pretty sure its a set, i swear ive seen other brands post photos with the exact background
>>10808301>you people are fucking retards if you think washing your entire dress consistently after each time you wear it is suitable care.this is exactly what I have been saying as a 2010s print sweetfaggirls got some ugly ass decontrasted looking bed sheet dresses at meets, nowadays. yo, yes I am gonna judge you for wearing something that has been trashed and looks like shit.
What was the huge drama that the Moitie Insta posted about? Can’t find anything
>>10807678I really don't think the price is crazy, especially considering the fact that it is real wool, not produced in the third world, and an extremely high quality wool. A dress like that is probably using 5 or more yards of fabric. Also the yen is down right now so the price would be cheaper for you. There are shitty polyester pieces that go for over 1k secondhand. With this, you're paying for material quality and craftsmanship. I'm ecstatic to see that pieces are being made in quality materials; this piece is just not my taste though>>10808504It's not a set, if you scroll down you can see it's the factory
>>10808520yea nevermind i might be fucking schizophrenic bc i cant find the photos i was thinking of
>>10808514From what I could gather in Instagram comments, TikTok tards we're leaving nasty comments accusing mana-sama and MM of cultural appropriation due to the bands wearing braids in the Klaha era.
>>10807537This is interesting, but the current designs are too fancy for me. It looks like they had done a project before with a more casual style. I would be interested if they do a casual dress again.
>>10808506this. these are not "normal" clothes and can't be tossed in the wash consistently. People wouldn't do that with their designer clothes, and neither should anybody with lolita.
>>10808674desu i feel like if you're willing to spend the money on brand, you should also be willing to shell out a few bucks on the drycleaner's
>>10808730>>10808674Is spot cleaning really such a far off concept these days? Personally I do both, I spot clean JSKs that don't touch my skin and I'll bring everything to the drycleaners once a month. Blouses, OPs, and things that get direct skin contact either get thrown in the wash or go straight to the drycleaner asap. I just can't imagine having a catch-all laundry routine in this fashion.
>>10808734>she thinks clothes get dirty from your body and not touching public seats and benches and shitretard.
Is it normal that baby sf hasn't updated their fulfillment status page in two months?
This is probably old news, but did you guys see the Mana Pullip doll? Pretty cute.
>>10809133i prefer the triple fortune one they did recently, not really into dolls though
>>10808674seeing the generally accepted attitude of lolita culture from>lolita is just normal clothes it’s not a costume! wear your lolita every day and do all of your daily chores in it or you’re a poser conlita meetlita! i wear my lolita to scrub my shower and dig holes in my backyard because i’m a true and honest lolita not like you costume wearing fakersto>lolita has to be treated specially lolita polyester and cotton are made of different fabric than your plebian non lolita polyester and cotton shirts! you have to keep it pristine and impeccable and if you get a single snag or sign of use on it you’re a disgusting piece of shit! how dare you let another person breathe on your $10,000,000 holy sunshine and rainbows polyester skirt, if anyone even looks at it funny it will explode into smithereenson here over the past few years is fascinating. it’s interesting to me
>>10809143are you new?
>>10809147>>10809146i find you interesting
>>10809151the feeling isnt mutual, go shit up a different board thanks
>>10809156 sorry i hurt your feelings babe
>>10809143what does culture have to do with basic garment care? i think you might be a little stupid!
>>10809143what a nice little straw house you’ve built. mind pointing where in this thread (or ever) has anyone stated those things? we’re talking about basic generic care for luxury goods, nobody is trying to keep things in “mint” condition, that’s impossible after repeated use.
>>10808730Tbh, most dresses are less than $100 secondhand. 2010s sweet prints used to be really cheap too. If somebody isn’t buying at retail price, I can see why they wouldn’t want to shell out for dry cleaning.
>>10809348ayrt, the anon from >>10809143 is trying to point out the shift in mindset from "you should do everything in lolita, no matter how dirty or dangerous it is to your clothes. If you don't you're not a real lolita" to "these aren't regular clothes, they need to be babied and only be worn for the activities with the least risk of getting them dirty".I've noticed that shift in mindset as well. But I'm happy there's less finger pointing at people who want to wear lolita occasionally now. I don't want to wear it to bleach my sink/bathroom or to go grocery shopping.
For all this laundry discussion, just look up Abby Cox's video on modern laundry. If I'm spending big bucks on a well made, quality dress, then I'm going to care for it and wash it by hand and spot clean. I want it to last.
i figured i'd ask here, where's a good place to buy a proper decent quality petticoat? i don't mind if it's on the pricier side as long as its decent and gets to me relatively quickly.
>>10809494Aurora and Ariel, Wunderwelt original
I noticed MeLikesTea increased their prices quite a bit since I last bought from them. Are they still worth buying from?
>>10809594they werent worth buying from in the first place imo, their pettis are so weirdly shaped
>>10809594Their pettis suck, I've had to get rid of two of them and my third one got fucked up from being washed on gentle/ cold water. The organza fabric got all warped and shredded looking. The others were different fabrics, one was hard tulle and it went flat and then fell apart. The only way I'd buy another is if they cut the price by half. They last about 2-3 years depending on how often you use it
>>10809594both of these>>10809598>>10809958are correct. I bought one of their pettis and an underskirt a few years ago. At first I thought the quality was fine. The petti was really voluminous and the underskirt seemed okay. Neither was as nice as brand pettis (just cheap polyester type materials, basic gathered ruffles, no lace or pintucks or any details like that.) But I liked how their stuff could be custom sized and came in a lot of colors.So I ordered another petti and a couple more underskirts. But before I even got my second order, the petti was getting tears here and there (clearly REALLY cheap tulle and organza, never had this happen with any of my brand pieces or even cheaper bodyline and taobao crap) and the first underskirt was basically disintegrating. Loose threads everywhere, some of the seams came undone, and half the bottom hem totally tore offI was a lot more gentle with my second petti and other underskirts when they arrived, but they haven't held up well either. I assume that MLT is using fabrics that aren't really meant for regular clothing (like maybe sheer curtain fabric or something?) bc it's bizarre fragile. And then not hemming/doing seams properly for that type of fabric.
Which one of you made this page. Didn't want to start a new thread. Sorry if it's off-topic. Also is the not washing thing your coords true in your groups. I could see browning collars on white fabric. But not the whole damn dress
>>10809962damn i got a migraine reading through those, they better just be bait lmao
On 30th September, the last day of the fundraiser, more casual-style dresses in Bishu wool will be up for reservation.>https://twitter.com/aichiamai/status/1575427226547367938>>10808537Well, anon, time to put your money where your mouth is.
>>10808506I just dry clean mine. A little expensive but worth keeping my prints looking nice.
>>10809594They were only ever worth it with the old prices and a good exchange rate. My hard tulle petticoats are 5 years old and have held up well, but the organza and other fabrics deflate like crazy and have the same problem that Classical Puppets pettis had with ripping at the seams.
when does wunderwelt update their stock? is it specific days/time still?
>>10809348>lolita>luxury goodsif ur poor just say that
>>10809133got once since I will probably never find the BJD they released a few years ago on the second hand market
>>10809133Hate Pullips with a burning passion, but I want that outfit for my Blythe
>>10808120summer is over anon, boards only picked up due to summer fags, and because of covid there was a lot of drama the last two-three years. people finally have shit to do and it ain’t sitting around attacking other lolitas.
>>10810907Blythe master race
>>10808233>>10808232Well that's much better customer service than Baby or AP for sure.
Has anyone gotten the marble lucky bag? What kinda accessories should I expect to get?
I am so tired of “lolita indie brands” that are not selling any lolita items being shilled in lolita spacesThis is a fucking t shirt with a pumpkin on it, please get off my feed
>>10811819I love LOTV but this is painfully true, idk who decided to promo it on lolita news it's not even like a cute cutsew or anything. I'm sad that the brand has been so dead though, she just keeps rereleasing her actual lolita designs, and has had little other than those busted looking brooches listed for at least four years.
>>10811859I've heard from people that they've had issues with her, Idodeclare and Voodooodolly. Shipping delays, quality issues and shitty communication across all 3 of them. (IDD has solid construction but the other 2 points still stand).American Indie brands seem to be so fucked.
JetJ is releasing a new OP called "Caricature des chats d'Edo*猫の戯画". The order period is from 11th October 2022, 12 pm JST to 1st November 2022, 12 pm JST.>https://twitter.com/J_et_J/status/1579275529194156033
since we're talking petticoats a lot - any of y'all tried a 'birdcage' type petti/underskirt, from any brand? seems good for hot weather, but I've never heard a rec for one and I reaaally don't know if I can be bothered to sew one from scratch.
>>10811867It looks like shitty taobao, makes sense since they shifted their manufacturers there.
>>10811872Just quickly browing through lolibrary I realized that 2014/2015 was the last year where they released anything good. It's also around that time when the quality started going downhill. Such a shame, but there is no recovery from that.
>>10811863Did not have a problem with shipping from LOTV. She did highlight in the past year about an ill family member that needed to be cared for so her attention is on that instead of her brand
>>10811867This looks like some triple fortune shit
>>10811889It's good that you didn't have issues, but there were definitely others that did.
>>10811871They're not good imo, they give your dress a weird shape unless you layer on another petti over it which defeats the purpose. For hot weather I just have a pair of long linen bloomers and wear cotton blouses
How has your comm reacted to Discordgate so far?
>>10809958Why would you put a petti in the washing machine. That's insane behaviour
>>10811871Ignore what >>10811927 says, I wear a cage petti with a small organza petti to smooth the shape when it's hot. It definitely helps and the shape isn't too weird.
>>10811953lmao enjoy your stinky ass pettis
>>10811889I had a shipping issue. Granted right after I emailed her (it had been 6 months at that point) she sent it out but i think a mass email explaining the situation could have worked. Not everyone is glued to IG stories and in my limited experience people appreciate updates and are pretty forgiving.Customer service from her is still better than IDD though, which says more about idd.
>>10812032anon has never heard of hand washing
>>10812032Nayrt but you can hand wash things
>>10812022any chance you have a link/store name for the cage petti?
>>10812043IDD and Voodooodolly are horrible to buy from in my own experience. They never shipped my orders in time, and required multiple emails to even get a reply. I've seen people post about getting damaged halos from Voodooodolly too. The lack of any CS is really off-putting.
>>10812079people who like IDD and voodoodolly are the same circle jerk elitists anyway lmao
>>10812079>>10812087the only reason they get away with this is because they suck up to big time influencers, usually in spaces that are no lolita anymore. Otherwise as >>10812087 said the only real clientele left from their lolita days are circlejerkers.
>>10809958did you use a laundry bag?
>>10812096IDD has really good quality but the only way I'd buy from them in secondhand. I'm tired of having to run circles around her excuses. Voodooodolly's crowns have gone down in quality, so they're not even worth buying from. The last time I saw someone's white crown it looked like it had been spraypainted by a child.
>>10811953Brand ones hold up just fine. MLT is fucking garbage. I was washing it the same way I wash my BTSSB and AP pettis. The seam allowance is too damn narrow because Tai is a cheap ass
>>10811863>>10812079Checks out. The pumpkin shirt is on pre order until Oct 18 which doesn’t give her much time to produce & ship them such that they’ll arrive at peoples homes by Halloween (which is when I assume you’d want a shirt like this)These indie brands suck at planning some padding for delays & setbacks into their timeline preemptively.
>>10812079>VoodooodollyA piece I bought from her and which took aged to ship actually arrived broken. When I emailed her about it she said she was sorry and that was it. No refunds.
any chocolate themed blouses or accessories you'd recommend from taobao? I know infanta has a blouse in their store right now
>>10812268Yikes I hope you opened a claim >>10812270V castle I think has some and Sakya has that apron
>>10812268What a trash fire. I saw her change the shipping terms to insured only. But imagine liasing with her to get the insurance claim filed, it's as good as nothing.>>10812271It's hard to open a claim since her preorders are so long. That's also not including her delays. When you get the item it's long past Paypal's claim window.But you could do a chargeback if your bank allows it.
>>10812271This happened years ago, I had it shipped it to my mom because I was abroad for work for a few weeks at that time. My mom opened the package and on surface level everything seemed ok. Only when you took the piece out of the box you would see that a part of the backside was broken off. When I returned and finally saw the damage the claim window had been expired. >>10812280I'm glad she changed her shipping policies though, there must have been more cases like mine..
>>10812054I have one from Classical Puppets but a quick look at their TB page and they don't seem to sell it anymore
I'm ordering shoes from Japan but I'm unsure on the sizing, some conversion charts put me at 23.5, some at 24.5. I'm a US 7.
>>10814775Measure your foot by tracing it on a piece of paper and add 0.5-1cm for comfort, then you'll get your exact JP size
>>108147757 is unfortunately in between sizes. You can either get M and it’ll fit if you’re a true 7 but be a bit snug, or get L but will have to stuff the toe box and wear layered socks. 7 is 23.5-24
>>10811867I will never forgive them after the shit job they did of my Bosch JSK
>>10814791Shoes aren't supposed to fit snug, M will definitely be too small for them
>>10814791>stuff the toe boxyou mean use an insert?
>>10814775I wear a 23.5 and my US size is typically 6 1/2. A US 7 is usually closest to a 24.
>>10814823There’s 3 sizes for shoes in japan. You will never find your exact western size. You’re supposed to pick whichever is closest, and the closest for a US 7 is a M, it just won’t fit the same way your US/Euro shoes will. A true 7 isn’t available in jp sizing because it’s between M and L, but is closer to M. Japan has wider toe boxes than western shoes, so if you have narrow feet, you can go down slightly. >>10814826I’ve stuffed cotton balls in the front.
>>10814877just use inserts you freak. also you're wrong about the shoes, lolita brands do that, but most are by CM
>>10814879You missed the part about japanese shoes. Not everyone buys taobao/replica shoes. Also I use cotton balls because it’s cleaner. I can just throw them out after using, whereas you can’t wash insoles without ruining the adhesive
>>10814877>Japan has wider toe boxes than western shoes, so if you have narrow feet, you can go down slightlyWrong, the issue isn't with the toe box being too narrow, but with the actual length of the foot. You're never supposed to wear shoes with an insole that measures exactly the same as your foot, otherwise say hello to ingrown nails and bone deformities over time. When you step on your foot, it expands lengthwise, so you need at least half a cm of wiggle room not to crush your toes. Source: ask any podologist.
>>10814915inserts are washable you moron. no one's talking about insoles. do you have brain damage? only lolita brands in japan do lettered sizing, no one was talking about china.
>>10814775I’m slightly smaller than you (EU 37) and I buy both L & M depending on what’s available, but usually M. Mary-Jane style shoes and flats are usually too loose in L, but sometimes M is a bit too snug. It’s a crapshoot basically
>>10812079>>10811863IDD has had the reputation of only responding and shipping things out for her friends for like a decade, this isn't new.>>10811887I would say around that time is when a lot of brands started to go downhill. Maybe 2016-2017 if I'm being more generous.
>>10814936That's not true. I bought LL sandals and shoes from plenty of stores. All kinds of shit from normie dress shoes to flip flops. I mostly shop at cheap department stores besides for lolita so ymmv if you're buying European import stuff in JP
>>10814779I'll give that a shot, thanks.>>10814791>>10814871>>10814938Thanks for the advice. I'll measure my foot and see, but I lean toward a 7 1/2 so I'll probably go 24.5.
Welp, no more secrets.
>>10815153They sucked anyways. It was very obviously the same person or group of people submitting their personal vendettas trying to make it look like it wasn't them. Stopped checking after a few weeks, after the official LiveJournal closed.
I asked Google's new AI how to be a lolita
>>10809143You're retarded as fuck, it's the ones who wear it frequently who know how to care properly for items. If I'd threw everything I own in the washing machine, half of my closet would be in a poor condition by now. Handwashing isn't that hard and can be fun.
>>10815341Hand washing isn’t suitable for a lot of dresses retard, only dry cleaning. Enjoy ruining your clothes because you cheaped out.
>>10815344Bullshit. I've been wearing lolita since 2011 and have been handwashing my more fragile pieces with literally no problem, you just have to be careful and patient.
>>10815344dry cleaning does a poor job of removing odors. have fun with your stinky clothes because you thought cotton was unwashable kek
>>10815379no it doesn't, you retarded?
Did anyone end up archiving re-ri's wordpress blog? It seems like it finally expired.
>>10815341>>10815344The real Chad move is to wash everything in the washing machine on delicate with cold water and hang to dry.
>>10815599That's what I do with almost all my dresses except I lay them flat in a towel sandwich to dry. Don't want to mess up the shoulder straps with the weight of a soaking dress.
>>10815383Yes it does, it's a very common complaint. Water does a much better job of removing odors than dry cleaning solvents. There is no reason you need to be dry cleaning ALL of your Lolita unless you are a retard
>>10815645that's only for certain types you google search retard.
>>10815610That's a good point anon. Sometimes I will drape part of the skirt over another hanger when drying to take pressure off the straps.
>>10815651dry cleaning doesn't actually "clean" your garments it's nasty AF. Most lolita can be washed in a washing machine and it'll actually get clean with soap and water.
>>10815684you're fucking retarded.
>>10815645I got a knit dry cleaned because it smelled too bad to wear (I was very new to lolita). When I got it back I asked why it still smelled and they told me dry cleaning doesn't remove odors. I hand washed everything after that (even dry clean only because what's the point if it still smells?) and everything has been fine.
What's a good SS that will buy in person in the Tokyo area? Japonica is who I usually use, but they won't do in person.
>>10815758NTA but it depends on the chemicals. Cheap dry cleaners use chemicals that only get the stains out.
Christ this is hideous…https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fluffytoritights/rainbow-parade-dress
>>10817054Idk I like the rainbow gradient
>>10817054At least this dress is like a big red flag for who to avoid at meetups.
>>10817054Fluffy Tori always has such garish prints but this pride one is the worst I've seen yet. It's so eye-bleedingly ugly that it feels almost homophobic.
https://item.fril.jp/a22b876e026883c4a8e498b2a6fb9c51Based japanese lolitas, I hope they'll do the same with the moitie ones eventually. I wish mercari/yahoo/fril scalper a merry violent death.
>>10820310great find, post the pics next time
>>10821063Listing owner's message on the post:>この方はメルカリさんで購入されたロリータ系、ゴシック系、パンク系の服をラクマさんで高額で転売しています。>酷いものは10倍も釣り上げて売られています。>分かっているだけで数百件見つかりました。>この方がメルカリさんで購入された商品のページを見ると汚れや傷みが説明されているにも関わらず、ラクマさんで出品する時には記載されていない場合も多く、記載があってもタグ無しの新品、未使用品、試着のみ、一度だけ着用、などの記載になっていることが多いようです。>最近ではメルカリさんでも購入価格より遥かに価格を釣り上げて売られているようなのでそちらも使われる方は気をつけて下さい。>またメルカリさんの方では他の方の専用出品を購入している事もあるようです。>名前もよく変えられているのでプロフィールや評価の件数を覚えておくと良いかもしれません。>あまりにも酷かったため、多くの方に知って頂き被害を減らしたく思いベイビー様のブランド名をお借りしてこちらに投稿させて頂きました。>購入の際に思い出して頂けると幸いです。>場違いな投稿失礼しました。>下記が主に高額転売していたブランドになります。>Angelic Pretty>BABY,THE STARS SHINE BRIGHT>ALICE and the PIRATES>Innocent World>Juliette et Justine>Mary Magdalene>metamorphose>Secret Honey>Victorian maiden>h.NAOTO>Moi-meme-Moitie>Ozz On>Qutie Frash>ATELIER BOZ>ATELIER-PIERROT>MIHO MATSUDA>FRILL>ALGONQUINS>PEACE NOW>PUTUMAYO>SEX POT ReVeNGe>MAXICIMAM
>>10821064Google translation:This person resells Lolita, Gothic, and Punk clothes purchased at Mercari at Rakuma at a high price.The worst ones are sold for ten times as much.As far as I know, I've found hundreds.When this person looks at the page of the item he purchased on Mercari, it explains the dirt and damage, but when he sells it on Rakuma, it often doesn't. , Unused, Only tried on, Worn only once, etc.Recently, even Mercari seems to be selling it at a much higher price than the purchase price, so please be careful if you are using that as well.Also, it seems that some people on Mercari are purchasing other people's exclusive listings.The name is often changed, so it may be a good idea to remember the number of profiles and ratings.It was so bad that I borrowed Baby's brand name and posted it here in the hope that many people would know about it and reduce the damage.I hope you will remember this when purchasing.Sorry for the misplaced post.The following are the brands that were mainly resold at a high price.Angelic PrettyBABY, THE STARS SHINE BRIGHTALICE and the PIRATES Innocent WorldInnocent WorldJuliette et JustineMary MagdalenemetamorphosisSecret HoneyVictorian maidenh. NAOTOMoi-meme-MoitieOzz OnQutie FlashATELIER BOZATELIER-PIERROTMIHO MATSUDAFRILLALGON QUINSPEACE NOWPUTUMAYOSEX POT ReVeNGeMAXICIMAM
>>10820310>>10821063Based Japanese lolitas, I hope this information spreads and the scalper quits forever
>>10815760I liked Sunflower Seed when I used them, but ended up overpaying by close to $100 with their service and transportation fees
>>10820310>>10821063This bitch scalped my DD for $700 last year and I haven't been able to forget about it since, glad more people are speaking out against her
>>10807806Jesus why tf is everyone ragging on this anon because they accidentally switched some words around when referring to the name of a dress?? You guys act like you’ve never made a speaking error in your life before. And do you seriously expect someone to be able to perfectly remember and recite the name of every AP print??? That’s just ridiculous
>>10821337Nobody gives a fuck about your uniformed newfag opinions. If you don’t know anything about lolita shut up and learn more, or fuck off to a different fashion.
>>10807806Some garments, the washing tag says not to spot clean. They are dry clean only even as spot cleaning. Spot cleaning is good because every time you wash a garment it degraded. Only reason to wash a whole garment is for odor or bad storage.