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What the fuck happened to this board?
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apathy
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>>10788208
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>>10793857
This is not a fucking cosplay related question, what happened in the 3 years I was gone? What is it with all the coomer threads making up half the catalog? Hell, what is going on in the normal generals, why are there so many males openly posting in lolita threads?
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>>10793861
apathy
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men
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we get this thread once a month, same questions same answers
i don't like coomers either but best we can do is hide their shit
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>>10793867
>>10793869
All kinks shall not be shamed
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I like the coomer threads because I can actually look at photos of cosplay in them.
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everything is coming back full circle. balance between lolita and cosplay threads. next phase will be the re-emergent of trips
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>>10793884
call me newfag or whatever but what is your deal, soup? do you even cosplay or anything?
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>>10793861
NTATYART BUT i feel that anon thinks the question is clearly stupid because the answer is 'other boards'. I mean no harm, gull, but it's my interpretation
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>>10793854
cosplay turned mainstream and coomer bait and so we got flooded with them and janitors gve no fuck
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No big US cons for almost 2 years, and most lolitas moving to normal social media turned this place into a barren wasteland dominated by bait and coomer threads and the lolita threads got overrun by troons.
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>>10793861
bro, the trans and sissy incels invaded. we've been fucked for a long time
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God I wish there was a rule against non-cosplayers starting threads solely with the intention of creating a fetish spank bank. Don't you fuckers have like 4 coomer/request boards already for that type of shit?
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>>10793886
anons hate me because I have the largest ap collection on this board
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>>10793884
How haven't you killed yourself yet?
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>>10793875
Are you incapable of posting non-coomer cosplay photos yourself, anon?
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>>10793949
>anons hate me because I have the largest ap collection on this board

I fucking doubt that~
Did you forget about me?
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>>10793964
why would I do that and miss out on all the things I have yet to enjoy or experience. mainly talking consuming stories but bucket list tier stuff too eventually
>>10794003
I channeled my inner sainte to make that post. aren’t you banned are you ban evading ?
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Hoes mad they've lost their stranglehold on the board.
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>>10794039
Riddle me this-

Why consume lead to reap the reward of eternal death.

when you can instead、
—consume gold and reap the benefits of everlasting life.
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>>10794060
Everlasting life? "Consuming gold" gives you monkeypox.
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>>10793854
Same as any board sis. The fucking jannnies aren't doing their fucking job by deleting coomer shit and banning them. That's why boards like /v/ turned into a perverted cesspool with 90% coomer threads. It's a shame, this board used to be so nice.....what a rotten way to die
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>>10794060
we talking books? surely there’s a limit to how many stories you can read before you die so the lives are still finite
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>>10793884
>balance between lolita and cosplay threads.
It's not a balance, there are no real cosplay threads anymore, just regional con drama threads, LARP threads, and coomer threads. And the same lolita threads except in 2018-2020 we began making containment threads for APfags
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>>10793854
Why put up with 4chan's bullshit when you can just go to tiktok, insta, reddit and even facebook for cosplay content and not have to deal with all the usual fuckery that 4chan brings? Most posters left for those platforms and now all thats left are the coomers and a scattering of lolitas.
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>>10794124
You can't call someone a faggit without getting banned on normie social media. 4chan is for the true outcasts fuck gaycebook and niggergram
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>>10794124
Normies. Weaklings. Can't handle the pressure. You need drama, bullshit, fuckery in your life else it becomes stale. It brings a little excitement. If I wanted a fairytale I'd go watch Disney or have a tea party with my frens. I agree though that the coomers are a bore.

>>10794165
This. Normie social media is insufferable. A crystal house for snowflakes. I'd rather deal with a few faggits than stepping on eggshells. A more middle ground would be ideal but the world tends not to be ideal. 4chan it is then.
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>>10793927
it feels like we would need a new sticky thread in general because it's like almost 10 years old and the comm changed a lot
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>>10793924
The incel to trans pipeline is real
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>>10793923
Lolitas didn't just move to social media - the lolita meme died. No longer relevant nor particularly cared for by the cosplayer or otaku commuities.

Why else do you think they suddenly started acting out and leveling accusations against everyone? They're trying to regain their lost relevance.
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>>10793924
Invaded? Those faggots have been here since this site's founding.
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>>10794291
To be fair Linetrap was a /b/tard and not a gull
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Honestly it's one of the few boards on 4chan that's been a disgusting cesspool hellhole from the jump. Idk why you guys are trying to figure out "what happened to the good old days :("
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>>10794310
>boohoo i hate the girl board!!!
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>>10794334
I mean, correlation doesn't equal causation, but if the petticoat fits...
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>>10794310
It's been a while since I've seen this image but I forgot how it's literally just "ew girls have body hair and self-cleaning genitals"
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>>10794310
>2011

Fucking hell it’s been a long time
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From what I recall, this place started to really decline when it got a small influx of r9k posters that shat up the board for a while. Then COVID hit and that’s when things really started to go down hill combined with the influx of tiktok people getting into cosplay and lolita, and anime becoming mainstream.

Sometimes I genuinely miss the homestuck generals and cringey con horror stories.
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>>10794310
Kek, just learn about discharge for the first time? still no gf?
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>>10793989
I guess everyone's incapable.
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>>10794276
incel to tranny pipeline goes through both /r9k/ and /jp/ so there's no question why this entire site is fucked.
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>>10794863
There’s probably been people from /pol/ who trooned out.
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>>10795013
There definitely are. That kind of self hatred is weirdly common
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>>10795013
>>10795025
Proof?
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>>10793854
It got taken over by a bunch of angry, bitter and mysandric women obsessed with Lolita costumes.
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>>10795048
>mysandric
lol die angry
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>>10795048
"The Lolita board got taken over by Lolitas"

What?
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>>10795038
I mean they’re out there, even the kiwi farms had an admin/mod who trooned out
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>>10793867
oi stop blaming men >:(
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>>10795071
Well I'm just glad Null could finally be his true self.
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>>10795084
mad bro?
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>>10795038
Stay on here long enough and you'll eventually run into a few neo nazi trannys with a fetish for black men. You can find them over in /lgbt/.
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>>10795086
https://youtu.be/Og5lm_94MYM His trans voice came out
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>>10795105
lmao, forgot about that. I love how long it takes him to notice while he's having such a serious talk.
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>>10795105
Him being deep in thought while the chat is exploding is fucking hilarious
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We need a guiding light, some sort of saintly figure to save this God forbidden place and rid of all the miserable - woke/ascists/land whales and troons/faggots once and for all
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>>10795149
Uh, those people aren't the problem. It's the (male) coomers
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>>10795048
>angry, bitter and mysandric women obsessed with Lolita costumes.
lmao those girls have been here for the past 10 years.
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>>10795149
It’s literally the type of people who spam this kind of shit that we need to get rid of. Every thread gets derailed by some name calling instead of being on topic
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>>10795273
this. they were around before, even, just on gtfoegl
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>>10795303
you know what the real difference is, here? we're chock full of autists that have no concept of what trolling is and all of you are easy to bait. some of us have been around much longer and see you retards fall to even weak bait. trolling has always been on 4chan.

that's what destroyed the board. I solved it. you're welcome. This is the result of the insistent newbies on not integrating with a board culture that has been here since '06.
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>>10795331
i actually think the opposite. this board is often the first place people that even normies go when they're interested in talking about lolita, since it's infamous and more easily accessible than a comm meet. LJ is dead and not an option. so this board is really just filled with new teenagers and normies who don't understand what bait is
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>>10795331
Explain what the fuck happened to /jp/ then. That board was the king of gatekeeping to the point that moot called them weaponized autism. Now that place got gentrified the fuck out.
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>>10795334
Facebook and Reddit attract more newbies than here, at least normie ones anyway. The newbies that come here tend to be some variety of degen.
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>>10793861
Im a dude Im just here to support and coom to my imageboard sisters. Im also not a tranny.
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So, we've identified a few possible sources of the problems that ail this board. What is your honest suggestion for a solution? Not something vauge or silly like "ban all x", but an honest to god solution.

For example, this anon >>10795331 cites an influx of newbies not following board culture as the main problem. What actionable thing within the control of the average poster and not a janny could be done to fix this?
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>>10795440
post good content

only good content cures cancer

1. turn coomer threads into mana threads
2. make threads to post cool pics you like
3. post coord collages and ask for (and give) concrit
4. help anons who follow the rules and boost their questions when you cannot answer them yourself
5. make memes

we hardcore suck at #5
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>>10795336
The vtuber nuke was the final nail in the coffin, although they were already starting to slip before that. Even the creation of /vt/ didn't reverse the effects of the absolute onslaught of vtuberfags that flooded /jp/ when holomeme started gaining traction
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>>10795442
We do suck at #5 but we didn't always. /cgl/-chan thirsting after /fa/ was fucking funny
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>>10795442
We suck at #5 and the unspoken rule #6: STOP REPLYING TO FUCKING BAIT. Or at least reply in a fun way and turn it into some bantz or something entertaining. Stop getting legitimately angry over shit. Troll people back, make good jokes, call soup gay (he hates that so it's very funny).

The best times on cgl aside from wholesome nice moments with anons is when you can talk mad shit to one another but you're just arguing over something silly like which brand is the best or your favorite prints and don't mean it or aren't actually attempting to hurt someone's feelings so much as be boisterous and rude as a joke. That's what the real chan culture is on other boards. People are using intense language but all in jest over their niche thing.
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I miss the Derpy-chan era
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>>10795448
OG lolita meme art is so much better than the shitty half assed King of the Hill caps with bows or tiny head shoops people do now. Even overused Kawaii Pateen screen grabs and Misako with gun images are better than the current state of cgl memes.
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>>10795443
/jp/ hasn't been good since 2011
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>>10795336
I only went to jp during yume nikki days, I don't care what those incels did/do. There's a difference between actual autism and incels, though.
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>>10795440
Well, it seems like the parsing of people like Miyu, PT, and Dakota kind of left this board a bit dry. The vendetta bans actually is a big part of the problem, believe it or not. It might have wrecked board culture a long time ago. But, now there are idiots who weaponize it.

We definitely mostly talked about cows, cosplay, and posted lolita dumps of coords we liked/didn't like. There was way more cosplay and coomer threads despite what these newfags go on about. The contined complaints just reveals who's trying to kill the board more.

The captcha also kind of kills lolita dumps.
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>>10795452
>shitty half assed King of the Hill caps
That's old, newfag. People started doing that in lj days.
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>>10795567
Who cares, it’s still cringe and you’re old, irrelevant, and out of touch
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>>10795570
t. zoomer
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>>10795570
anon, in a thread about how this board went to shit - I don't think this is quite the message you were looking for. You, your types are the ones making the board go to shit.

You don't lurk before posting, you get baited easily, you reply like an autist.

You are the very definition of why this board is shit. Congrats.
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>>10795567
Yeah but the newer ones are never actually good or clever or relevant, that's the issue. People slap a bow and dress on something and then think it makes it a meme.
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>>10795588
Struck a nerve didn’t I, grandma
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>>10795601
>>10795588
personally I wouldnt let a zoomer tiktok fornite kid call me a grandma anon.
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>>10795588
>>10795442
>>10795440
I didn't think THIS would be the board where I'd see accurate and concise summaries of the rapid decline in board quality across the entire site. Bros, why are the femoids unironically better at gatekeeping and preserving board culture than us? Meta threads like this don't even exist on other boards, its just more basedjak and r*ddit tourist threads...
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>>10793854
I ruined it back in 2012, sorry. Kinda upset they removed my seagull from the sticky, though. I check in once every 5 years or so and was sad to see that gone.

>>10795440
You want to save this board? The only way that will happen is if the current janitors stop enforcing pretty much any rules except the bare mininum of no doxxing and remaining work-safe/no porn. So if the janitors care about this board they should have a meeting with the mods and discuss the idea of allowing the board to go with far less oversight - like almost none. Again, I'm talking a /pol/-level free-for-all just minus the porno and racism/bigotry. That's what made this board what it was to begin with - years of absolutely no interference, a total virtual wild west from it's inception in 2003 until I ruined it in 2012 (oops). At least I think those were the years, it's been a long time and excessive cannabis usage burned hole in my memory.
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>>10795672
Wait no, that's wrong. I think it was created in 2006. I started coming to 4chan in 2005 and I think /b/ was created in 2003? Yo fellow oldfags pls refresh my memory. I was on here literally the day /cgl/ was created but my memory is garbage because I did too many weeds
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>>10795674
2007 I believe
Who are you? Masa?
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>>10795675
Naw I am 99% certain it was 2006.
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>>10795679
Yeah, 2006 is correct, it came out around the same time as /tv/
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im a board tourist who pops in once every 3 months but i noticed immediately this time around its been a lot more coomer threads than usual

i feel like this is a concerted effort or the users of the board have left who once made its culture up. if you wish to retain the culture, dont be passive to it. passivity to things until they grow is how communities become gentrified, embrace your hostile catty women attitude
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>>10795819
Hostility is the last thing the board needs, honestly it's probably a bigger problem than the coomer threads and is what drives good users away.
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>>10795819
agreed.
>>10795825
shut up faggot.
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The sticky needs an update for sure. Especially the links. The /cgl/ general pastebin link is 404'd, and Hellolace has been dead for fucking 6 or 7 years at this point. Also does anyone even use Cosplay.com anymore? It's still online but I never hear anyone mention it.
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>>10795674
2006 is cgl, 4chan is 04, went down a lot, became more stable in 05. I don't think b was 03, it was likely 04. I minimally went to it. I primarily was /c/ and /gif/ (mini /b/) and then /cgl/ when /cgl/ popped up in '06.

But yes, you're right. We existed as lolcow and kiwifarms before they were a thing. We had our own cows, cosplayers, culture and I don't know then they started modding it off the board. I know Miyu became a mod, but maybe that's when it fucking happened? Who knows.
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>>10795675
don't start citing namefags. we're not in that fucking era, cunt
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>>10795878
btw moot did it sometime before he sold shit off. Idk when that happened, but apparently she found moot and kissed up to him

I have inside deets from a previous mod. It's long gone and over with, so I don't really care.
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>>10795878
>We existed as lolcow and kiwifarms before they were a thing.

Man, I can still smell the backlash when they started cracking down on that stuff. Half the fun of /cgl/ back in the day was talking shit about specific people. The Pixyteri threads were my home.
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I just suddenly remembered Setsuna Kou. Oh my god, her site is still up and hasn't changed a bit.

https://www.setsunakou.com/
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>>10795442
Do people actually save just tons of pictures on their computers of other people's cosplays and coords? I've never understood that notion. I mean, I'm not against it, I just don't understand.
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>>10795566
Finally, someone acknowledges the true enemy: the captcha
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>>10795672
This board already doesn't have janny oversight there. There isn't a single thread (even the rule breaking request ones) that get deleted.
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>>10795825
Yeah, I agree with this anon. Everyone is afraid to selfpost because of the rampant hostility regardless of picture quality.
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>>10795874
Fucking this
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>>10795905
Yes. They used to. When we had daily_lolita, it was that or wade through a bunch of pages of shit. We have way more available ways to source images. It's not the same, no, but dumping is still one of the core parts of this website as it's an image board. We use it far too much like a forum. It's not a forum. Stop making these gay subject threads like it is a forum. It's not reddit, it's not gaia.

gb2gaia or reddit if that's what you want it to be.
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>>10795911
>Everyone is afraid to selfpost because of the rampant hostility regardless of picture quality.
Shut the fuck up, newfag. I'm tired of new people coming in here and going "wah wah the board's original culture DOESN'T VIBE WITH THE WAY I WANT IT TO BE"

FUCKING INTEGRATE
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>>10795909
None of us believe this. All you have to do is post specific people and then the vendetta bans get dished out. This is not how the board was originally.
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>>10795905
i have tons and tons of gbs of other lolitas' coords that i like, it's good inspiration
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>>10795918
Literally what the fuck are you talking about. People want others to post what they're working on. People are incapable of doing this because we can't have a productive conversation that isn't just "ur ugly" in several colorful manners of insult. It has nothing to do with vibes or ass-kissing.
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>>10795975
Working on? What are you talking about? For cosplay? Well, that's a completely different and regardless, this criticism isn't a new thing. If you're going to post on 4chan, then you've always needed to have thick skin. We incessantly harassed all our namefag/tripfags who self posted. It. is. not. new.
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>>10795819
Coomer threads are culture
Coomer threads were here first
Lolitas are the invaders
Lolitas are the problem
This was a 95% cosplay board before 2014
We should have resisted the hostile takeover back then
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>>10795981
Coords or cosplay. Why would that be different? It's still posting all the same.

And no, I'm not saying the criticism is new. It's always been around, but the assholery has definitely gotten worse to the point where it's unbearable to post pics here. At least there used to be some crit with the ass. Now it's just all ass. Not that we need to turn this place into a hugbox, but this place will only continue rolling to its grave unless we get back to a point where the risk is worth the reward.

>namefag/tripfags
Maybe it's just my personal autism, but I feel like there's a difference between someone who regularly posts while anonymous ("ie. oh, it's the 'x' anon) and a namefag/tripfag.
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honest question: why don't coomers just have their own dedicated threads on the beautiful women board or something? Or even a nsfw board since so many of their pictures straddle that line.
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Theres a coomer thread been up over a year
The coomer threads arent getting in the way of good content because this board is DEAD and removing coomer threads makes it even deader
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>>10795991
I’ve been here since 2008 and this is not fucking true and you know it. This was ALWAYS a bitchy lolita catfight board. Coomer threads weren’t a widespread problem until the pandemic
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>>10795993
Because they’re fucking retarded and navigate this website like they’re on Porn Hub, where “Cosplay & EGL” is a category of fap material. Everyone who comes here not understanding that this is the “girl board” is actively lowering the quality of the board every time they post.
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>>10795991
>This was a 95% cosplay board before 2014
you only think that because you arrived in 2014 kek.
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I come here to fap to average looking girls.
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>>10796111
Most of the drama was cosplay snd tripfag drama not lolita
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>>10794062
So what you're saying is, /v/ has improved dramatically?
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>>10796161
just because you ignored it doesn't mean it wasn't here. late 2000s was prime for lolita and jfash drama cows like dakota rose, venus angelic and more. lolitas didn't appear here recently, the cosplay side just became all coomer shit. you only have yourselves to blame for that.
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>>10794341
>>10794371
disgusting bitches spotted
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For those complaining I sure hope y'all applied to those janny positions. Be the change you want /cgl/ to be.
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>>10796168
sure did. coomer threads need to go. they attract both unsavory simp men and annoying selfppsting costhots to the board.
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>>10796163
Oops did I say 90% I meant 99.99% coomer threads. The 0.01 are the draw and sing threads that some how are still alive to this day
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>>10796161
Mmm.. 04'er to cgl '06er here. That was literally only a period that you are remembering. It was about 08 when we really started getting lolita posts.

And honestly after that, it's been combined with lolita shit posting for a while? So I have no clue what you're remembering. Even in the beginning, in 06, we did not have that many tripfags and I don't even think tripcodes were enabled yet.
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>>10795992
>Maybe it's just my personal autism, but I feel like there's a difference between someone who regularly posts while anonymous ("ie. oh, it's the 'x' anon) and a namefag/tripfag.
No you're just a newfag. We didn't even have tripcodes until later on. We had namefags before tripfags. We didn't have many namefags pre-tripcode, honestly.
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>>10796227
and this is furthering me thinking it was a mistake we ever had any identifier, because the whole point of the boards were to be anonymous. Making your posts more personal is literally anti-4chan BBS anonymous posting.
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/cgl/ started as a red board and had full nudity
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>>10796236
/cgl/ started before blue boards were a thing, newfag.
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>>10796236
>>10796237
nta for either but honestly this point doesn't even matter. the complaints about coomers is so fucking irrelevant and newfaggy. cosplayers like Miyu self posted coomer shit for years.
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>>10796243
I don't care about self posting lewd shit. At least those people are cosplayers. I just hate how many threads are started by nasty incels who have 0 personal interest in the hobby and think we exist to help them get their dicks hard.

I'd rather this board get shitted up by "this is my first cosplay, i made it out of costume satin and hot glue, what do you think?" idiot threads than coomers, because at least those people are showing actual interest in the hobby.
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>>10796251
If I sub to your Onlyfans I am paying for your cosplays and helping the hobby

Youre trying to dissasociate cosplay with "coomers" when most famous cosplsyers sell their body in some way
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>>10794291
yeah but back then you could ban them from your comm's facebook group, now we can't even criticize them because trannies are brave and stunning
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>>10796251
Honestly, those people existed likely before you did on this board. People posted about specific cosplayers to likely fap to them. It doesn't matter if it's nasty or not, people still did it and women only really existed on this board in 08 with the wave of lolitas in all honesty. This board still wasn't that many women, before. Guys have been doing this forever.
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>>10796259
eh this is the difference between lolita and cosplay.

these troons just now think lolita is the next best thing in cosplay.
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>>10796257
I don't give a fuck what cosplayers do to make money outside of this board. I find it gross but I'm not going to make a stink about it. It's none of my business.

This board is for discussing cosplay as a hobby, not discussing which cosplayers you want to bang/jerk to. Those threads belong on /s/. In fact, it is a common thread theme there. Why bring it here where it's obviously unwelcome?
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>>10796262
I've been here since '08, so if you're comparing the 2 years between the board conception and it becoming the "girl board" to the 14 years since then, I think its "girl board" status has significantly more weight.
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>>10796266
It most definitely was not a girl board in 08. It had to have taken years in order for the board to change and I can promise you, on your first day visiting 4chan, that it didn't change the board.
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>>10796301
I mean the reason I started coming here in the first place is because my catty (female) cosplayer friends/acquaintances were shit-talking some other local girl in a thread. Bitchy girl culture was definitely here in '08.
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It was a girl board but mainly girl cosplayers not lolita
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Before lolita was popular, it was mostly cosplayers who actually cosplayed and a lot of those are women. If you knew your lore you would know that a lot of the people who got popular on cgl were active and were women. The people like Jnig, or even Dakota only did it because they knew from others it was the place to get attention. Even a lot of the old namefags were women. PT was a girl talk thing, no one was asking for nudes until boys got weird about her later on, it all started with ppl talking about her weird cosplay.

Now there was some men into cosplay and who actually participated, but mostly we got some men who shared pics now and then but they werent the board culture of the era. It was girls who talked about what they were making, actually doing tuts, etc.

Anyone thinking that our "Drama" attitude came from men must be from the era of "girls dont go on the internet" level of delusional. If you thought you were talking to men on cgl in 2008 you were being dumb.
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>>10796322
The people arguing against this are just delusional men who think they're entitled to be gross wherever they want and then blame it on women "ruining" things when they're told to fuck off.
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>>10793854
>>10793861
Do we need a new board? I wish people would go over to lolcow. That is actually a moderated and female board.
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>>10796339
Lolcow is okay, but it attracts a lot of schizos. Though I guess that's probably preferable at this point.
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>>10796339
>>10796350
lolcow is fucked at the moment due to new ownership. full of CP and gore spam daily while admin gets her shit in order.
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>>10796359
Ah fuck. That's too bad. Hopefully it doesn't kill the site.
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>>10796227
You're misunderstanding. I mean it more like >>10796229 this anon is saying. There's a difference between being recognized for posting a lot while anonymous and labeling yourself for everyone to see on an anonymous website.
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>>10795452
The KotH lolita memes are quality content. You take that back.
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>>10793854
The economy. When I was a fuckin' wipper snapper (like, 13 or so) cosplay was easy and cheap. Now that I'm an old rugged 25 it's expensive and my hips are too wide to cosplay the anime girls I wanna cosplay as without feeling like a fatass.
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>>10796444
Really? I feel like cosplay used to be cheaper. I used to buy shitty costumes on ebay for like 50 bucks. Now if I buy premade shit it always runs me $100 minimum. The quality hasn't gotten any better, either.
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>>10796446
I think that was what I said in my post? I remember cosplaying an Attack on Titan character and the costume costed a month's allowance, or about 70 bucks
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>>10795048
>misandry
No one believes that meme.
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>>10796632
Yeah.

It died at the same time the lolita cosplay meme died.
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Is Crystal Cafe worth it
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>>10796664
No, it's dead and infiltrated by troons
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>>10796224
I would've said it was '09 or '10 when it really changed. I can remember having conversations about it with my cosplayer ex in the apartment we had from early '09 to the end of '11 so it was in there somewhere.
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>>10796322
>If you thought you were talking to men on cgl in 2008 you were being dumb.
It's not like there *weren't* plenty of guys here, I knew most of the SoCal /cgl/ anons/trips (I was never in the IRC but a good friend was and I ended up at the parties etc.) and there were more guys than girls in that group.

>It was girls who talked about what they were making, actually doing tuts, etc.
I think this is a big part of what's gone missing, though. It's not just /cgl/ but crafting is a much smaller part of the cosplay scene in general nowadays and that's reflected here, we used to have a lot of progress threads, threads about sewing or propmaking techniques, people sharing patterns, and stuff like that, and the disappearance of those is a big part of why the coomer threads and other bullshit feel so much more prominent now.
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>>10796438
lol
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>>10796692
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>>10796116
I make bait posts because this is THE girls board. I refuse to let women be happy
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>>10793861
It's /soc/ and oldfags who never got a gf and turned into weirdos
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>>10796866
and coomer newfags who learned about cosplay through twitter.
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>>10794341
>self-cleaning
Clearly this word does not mean what you think it means.
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>>10796774
Unfathomably based.
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>>10796774
Ironically enough, you dudes just as easy to troll if I post the right content.
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bring back Spoony
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>>10796915
fuck no, that fat bitch looks like a hog now.
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>>10796884
Self cleaning as in "you don't have to put anything in there as long as it's healthy". Discharge is sadly the side effect of the vagina cleaning itself.
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>>10796444
>my hips are too wide to cosplay the anime girls I wanna cosplay as without feeling like a fatass.
Than lose some weight, fatass sounds like a reasonable solution to me.
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>>10795993
we do tho, but i guess some people want sfw images.
>>10796111
i distinctly remember coom threads pretty regularly when I check up on the board every 2 months or so since at least 2015.
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>>10796915
I've been watching his interview with Richard Garriott, great stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgclBmiJxT0
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This places used to have some interesting tripfags and namefags. The fuck happened to all of them?
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>>10797077
Probably all shifted over to tumblr and twitter after 4chan cracked down on a lot of the petty bullshit and gossip that kept this place alive. Some of them probably just aged out and became too busy to hang out on 4chan all day shitposting. The gradual shift in the whole site, especially after multiple stupid happenings brought in a ton of normalfags and redditors and then the site was sold to gookmoot made 4chan a lot less fun to be on.
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>>10797077
moot brought in new mods in 2014 who killed all tripfaggotry and also killed the board
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look how dead this board is compared to how it used to be
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>>10797137
>that drop off starting at 2016
Hmm I wonder why...
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>>10797135
that's what it looks like. most of the rules are anti-cgl culture for cgl

can someone go to the irc and harass them about this thread and get this fucking stickied and some actual real plans to improve this board? Yes, they still are in IRC servers to bug.


otherwise, delete it mods, if you don't care about the board and culture you have destroyed
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>>10797139
TikTok wasn't even that big yet in 2016. The decline has been pretty gradual.
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>>10796917
she was fat before
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>>10797327
she LOOKS like a hog now though.
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>>10793854
We come here from /fit/ to laugh at femcels and anime fans every so often.
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>>10795635
>Bros, why are the femoids unironically better at gatekeeping and preserving board culture than us?
They literally aren't. /a/ is the single-most airtight board on the site. Nothing can compare to their self-moderation.
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>>10798327
I don't know if you can call it self-moderation when frogs and soijaks are expressly cleaned up by jannies
>>10798326
anime website, bitchboy
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>>10793854
What the fuck IS this board?
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>>10796259
Chances of you being a girl and not some angry neck beard
30%
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ITT: newfags preaching about a board they were never on, talking about "self moderation" and complaining about the culture they've invaded.


GB2Reddit faggots
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>>10793865
>>10793867
>>10793869
>>10793892
>>10794062
>>10796116
Look I’m gay so I’m also extremely put off by the soft core porn threads but blaming men is ridiculous
>woman buy perverted cosplay
>women make a career out of perverted cosplay
>said cosplay gets posted on a cosplay board
>ITS THE MEN!
Holy fuck the audacity of woman in the year of our lord
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>>10798371
I'm not even fucking understanding why they are on cgl to begin with, if they are this sensitive. Coomer threads were here first. I'm a lolita and I block it out. Lolitas came last for quite LITERALLY everything on this board and I'd argue that they ruined it, since they have no idea what integrating is.
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>>10798369
kek are you new? the angry neckbeards are the ones who *like* trannies and other coomer garbage
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>>10798376
Okay that’s pretty funny then you actually believe women are somehow better than trannies? Get a grip you’re both awful
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>>10798378
no one cares, scrote. begone
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>>10795878
never been the same since doxxing and threats etc of the like were banned. I hate to say it but some days I prefer lolcow just because it feels like '06 4chan
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Seems like every millennial man either wants to be a tranny or wants to fuck one. What the hell caused this mental illness in these men? Cant get a woman so they become one or go gay.
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>>10798413
Not every man, thankfully. Just every incel on 4chan.
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>>10798413
Porn addiction
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>>10798413
Dudes at least on this site have been exposed to all the fucked up shit from /b/ and /d/ over the years. It also explains why a lot of them have pedo tendencies. 4chan has existed in parallel with Millennial coming of age years. Imagine being exposed to futa, trap/trans/femboy porn and literal CP for almost two decades?
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>>10793854
The short answer my darling is, landwhales it doesn’t matter if they are or female fat people tends to ruin everything, i mean seriously why are tou browsing a cosplay board if you are fat omg
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>>10798413
Whats wrong with that better for us so they can leave us alone you honestly sounds like a femcel sis, have you ever tried losing weight?
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There is some serious gaslighting going on in this thread.

Every person here whining and seething about how this board turned shit is a hypocrite. I guarantee you 60% of the cosplayers here, who regularly cosplay anyway, often do thirst-trap cosplays, skimpy cosplays, sexually suggestive cosplays etc.

And I can GUARANTEE you that it was predominantly young, millennial, female cosplayers who overwhelmingly supported stuff like sex-positivity panels at cons, sex-positivity culture in general, the "SlutWalk" stuff that popped up in 2011. As well as, on a personal level, hooking up with guys at cons, doing drugs and so on.

I'm not even touching on the sex work aspect, I'm just talking about how insanely overly sexualized you either were or still are in what you choose to wear and how you behave when you attend/attended cons. Want me to talk about virtually all prominent trips, like Ikuy and Co. who used to post here, what they got up to?

And you have the audacity to blame men. Guess what: cosplayers, whether they're on OF or not, have a reputation now - slutty, "free", "kinky", "non-monogamous" etc.

You did that. Not men. You. You did it to yourselves. Take some fucking responsibility for once.
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>>10798478
>>10798480
kek are you having a stroke, or are you ESL

>>10798485
>men: *buy and post porn constantly*
>also men: Why are women always so sexualized??
truly a mystery
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>>10798485

Yes. I should be held responsible for other women behaving like a whore. Even though I wear cosplays that cover essentially everything, even though I've literally never had sex and want to wait until marriage. I should be held responsible because other women in the hobby are gutter trash, right? Totally makes sense.
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>>10798488
Omg better being a esl than being a forever alone American that's for sure.
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>>10798485

Unironically a really good post. This didn't happen overnight. For some reason there's always been this massive overlap between the anime fandom and kink/sex positivity, and idk about others but on the west coast in the late 00s and 10s that was always felt really acutely. Then you had the whole "cosplay to porn pipeline" (I mean pro porn, not onlyfans) thing. Tons of prominent /cgl/ tripfags ended up shooting scenes. And I'm not even talking about the number who just cammed on /soc/ for fun.

I don't know what it is, and this is going to sound like a basic take, but cosplay as a hobby just attracts and always attracted headcase sluts, even before the rise of the cosplay onlyfans "model".
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>>10798488
t.fat
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>>10798492
anyone who doesn't want to be a dirty skank must be fat now? kek men proving our point for us
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>>10798413
Women have very, very high physical standards in men. Especially average, frumpy looking nerdy women who are showered with attention online. These are the women who thinks abs that took a natty guy 3 years to achieve is an "average body".
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>>10798493
>anyone who doesn't want to be a dirty skank must be fat now? kek men proving our point for us

I'm not even a man btw, lose weight.
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>>10798491
>For some reason there's always been this massive overlap between the anime fandom and kink/sex positivity
"for some reason"? it's not some hidden mystery why. lonely weebs and otakus are hideous incels. because they can't get regular pussy, they love porn. therefore, anime and nerd cons provide them with the porn they constantly consoom. people like jessica nigri and olivia munn get famous for it. seeing this, women who want money or nerd attention create this image for themselves. and the cycle worsens.
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>>10798497
It's not just about women wanting money, that's where you're wrong. A lot of the women in the cosplay scene are BPDs who are just really hypersexual fucked up people.
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>>10798496
so you're just a pick-me then, who thinks every woman should want to be a skank? you realize everyone in this thread is shitting on you, right?

underweight btw, kek
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I'm going to go out on a limb and ask if any of you remember early 2010s /cgl/.

If so hit me up. I miss oldfags.
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>>10798498
that's why I said money *or* attention
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>Men this
>Men that
>Women this
>Women that
Shut up already geez, it's the internet in general that is changing, and theres nothing wrong with being sexy and sexualize yourself, even men do it.
Incels and femcel should marry each other.
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>>10798497
anime itself is half pornographic. people shit on the women wearing those costumes, when most of those costumes are just ripped directly out of anime in the first place.
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>>10798504
>when most of those costumes are just ripped directly out of anime in the first place.
Kinda the point. Women who watch anime tend to be more sexual/promiscuous than normal women. Iirc there's some stats that show Cluster B disorders (the kind linked to sexual excess) are more common in nerdy hobbies.
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>>10798502
>and theres nothing wrong with being sexy and sexualize yourself
How many men have you had sex with?
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>>10798502

I have no dad and must whore.
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>>10798508
>>10798509
Wheres your boyfriend oh wait.
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>>10798512
imagine thinking women who don't like porn are the ones who don't have boyfriends kek. you even fail at being a pick-me. have fun finding a bf with your cluster B
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>>10793924
Lol wtf is going on in this picture.
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>>10798489
...sounds like you are in the 40% according to the other anon...62IQ
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>>10798480
Maybe just maybe I don't want to sleep with a dude that "dabbled" with trannies and femboys because he was curious and wanted to satisfy his fetish. That is how AIDS spread from gay men to women because of down low dudes. The same thing is about to happen with monkeypox.
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>>10798502
>nothing wrong with being sexy and sexualize yourself
Yes there is, it's degraded multiple hobbies and it's now degrading society itself, and it's something that has happened in the past to dying societies as well.
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>>10798502
Zoomer girl detected. Rape protocols initiated.
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You can blame all the onlyfans whores shilling off cosplay and greasy neckbeards
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>>10798539
monkeypox is not an std, dumbass
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>>10798629
then why are you bringing it up? did anon say it was? no.
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>>10798599
But who's buying from said onlyfans whores? Men.
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>>10797073
BETRAAYYYYYALLLL
BE-TRAYAL
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>>10798371
Gay dudes get on my nerves sometimes but I'll always respect how effortlessly they can blow the fuck out of women.
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>>10798413
Less hoops to jump through and trannies usually have burning desire going while most women are going out with the dudes they're not super attracted too on top of being on anti-depressants and/or birth control. Women have shifted standards and a lot of dudes are adjusting accordingly.
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>>10798413
women decided not to be female anymore, so the hole the left tries to be fileld by something else
its not working out too well for any of the involved parties though
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>>10798824
He didn't blow tf out of anyone. Where exactly does he think costhots are are getting their OnlyFans money from? Women?

Men complain about whores yet prove time and time again that they like throwing money at them.
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>>10798413
Less shame in being gay or trans than it was in the past, so more are coming out openly now. Also sissies, trans, traps and femboys will give up the sex much quicker that a woman so guys who are thirsty will go after that. A lot of those men will travel to Asia or South America to satisfy their fetish.
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>>10798893
Breaking News: Those men are dumb. More at 11.
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>>10798950
yes, but they're still enabling. women wouldn't do this shit if they didn't get anything from it.
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>>10798951
I agree. But painting all women as whiny simps is as bad as calling all women money hungry whores. But this is 4chan so nothing to be surprised about here.
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>>10798326
Congrats asshole, you just scared away all actual women and now this board is just you retards eating the shit you use to smear this board with.
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>>10798599
I can blame posts like yours not getting deleted within hours like it used to when I left cgl.
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>>10794358
Probably most reasonable answer itt. Like others already said, I wish we (as in, actual seagulls and not the invaders/crossboarders making up most of the posts here) could all just move to lc once the admin is done with whatever the fuck they're doing.
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>>10793861
trannies and their handmaidens
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>>10798954
no one did that though. men being simps is a male problem that men need to deal with, just like women being whores is a female problem that women need to deal with. slut and simp shaming needs to come from peers of the respective sexes to work, but often it doesn't regardless and you just get called jelly. point is, it's hard to control the disgusting specimens of either gender, but it's up to that gender to attempt to.
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>>10799144
I don't get paid enough for that lol
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>>10799171
nobody does, hence the problem still exists.
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>>10795874
>>10795913
What would the sticky even be though? I dunno if there's any actual good resources out there for beginners at this point outside of places like discord.
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>>10797153
If you haven't seen the meta-discussion regarding the moderation team currently, the current head mod is actively trying to kill the site with a laissez-faire moderation policy. There's some articles out there about it.

Either way, it's highly unlikely anybody's actually going to be able to fix the board. The mod team probably doesn't even look on this area of the site anymore because it's where all the annoying catty cunts reside according to them.
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>>10799171
Never thought I see Kevin Samuels posted on /cgl/ of all places. RIP, that dude would dismantle both incels and the "feminist" women that post on here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxFUWreI7BA
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>>10799233
It was too soon. Goodnight, Saint Kevin ;_;7
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>>10799233
>>10799238
The GOAT, on /cgl/?
Never would have dreamed it.
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>>10799233
>>10799238
>>10799444

Kevin Samuels on the front page!
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>>10799233
Based
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>>10799212
that is too sad. web 2.0 was a mistake
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>>10797135
>moot brought in new mods in 2014 who killed all tripfaggotry
B A S T E
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>>10797135
I agree. This board was the most interesting in 2009-2013 when it was also the most cancer. If coomer shit is allowed to make a comeback, so we should welcome back cows and tripfags, waywt threads, /fa/ and /fit/ crossovers, shoop threads. I still find it ironic how the whole board tried to summon MOOT for months in a cry for help, and when he finally arrived to take suggestions he just nodded off every retarded suggestion to make this place more friendly which, but it also killed off all the fun as a result.
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>>10799458
there's still some fucking newfags that want this board to be EVEN MORE FRIENDLY than it already is

which to me, is anti-board culture even more. newfags are the cancer killing this board
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>>10798499
Only ugly women who never get picked call others pickmes. You sound fat.
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>>10799446
He also died based too. Died after having sex.
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>>10799469
Kek keep coping anon, I’m sure that burns calories too
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>>10798371
Males are the ones fueling this market, I don’t know what’s so hard about to understand about this. Also lmao faggot
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>>10799521
men hate when you hold them accountable for what other men are doing even though it's on the men for doing it. women wouldn't sell if simps didn't buy.
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>>10799520
You're not talking to the one you called a pickme, fatty.
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>>10799526
All they have to do is give up their coom addiction and the market would disappear. Unfortunately even that’s too much of a hard task for them kek
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>>10799526
"Men hate it when you """hold them accountable""" for something that they aren't doing but another man is

Yes very interesting. Shocking result really. Maybe you should just stop whoring.
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>>10799533
Had to double check I was still on cgl, thought it was a basugay thread KEK
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>>10799535
>complain about costhots
>is told a solution
>abloo nooo it’s not actually my problem thoooo

Kek
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>>10799535
maybe if men shamed simps for paying whores they would stop. if you're not the one who's doing it, why are you so anwgy? simps bring men as a whole down.
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>>10799540
we do shame simps
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>>10799538
The solution is for the group you're accusing of something to continue not doing that thing? No wonder you slurs are whoring out. You're worthless for anything else.

>>10799540
Imagine using a word like simping and having no idea where it came from or what it means.

Whores whining about the market they sell to while demanding somebody else take away their reason to be whores.
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>>10799543
You don't understand. The money isn't going to make itself. We're basically forced to whore out.
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>>10799543
i'm not a woman, kek. you're just retarded.
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>>10799545
>really I'm the victim here
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>>10799549
imagine caping for simps and cucks who keep perpetuating the system.
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>>10799540
>why aren't men doing more to stop women from being prostitutes
Printing this out and mailing it to 60s era feminists lol
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>>10799545
>We're basically forced to whore out.
Is the job market really that fucked? I see women working everywhere.
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>>10799550
Its you bro. You're the enabler.
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>>10799555
Costhots coping by claiming they're doing it at gunpoint. Uhmazin
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>>10799540
Shaming them is literally why the word simp exists you bimbo
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>>10798496
And that piggy in that pic will have hundreds of dudes in her DMs because guys will fuck anything, even crackheads on the street. Super thirsty dudes have these -3.8 looking women feeling like supermodels because they inflate their ego's to fuck them and run.
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>>10799543
Kek Keep trying to convince yourself it’s actually everybody else’s fault. I’ll be over there, enjoying life.
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>>10799545
>>10799545
Bait or not This is a cope, most ethots don’t even make that much money. Let alone a livable wage. Working a fast food joint or anything else is better than ethotting. Anyone who unironically beleives this needs to get their head checked.
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>>10799588
Whores aren't everyone.
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>>10799535
How come that despite being only 49% of the population, men commit over 90% of the most heinous crimes?
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>>10799538
Clam Blitz is the best mode and no one can tell me otherwise.
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>>10799645
Competence
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the coomers and tards took over the boards

>mfw all i wanted to do was talk to other cosplayers
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It's pretty simple really

A fair amount of people simply stopped with this board for IG, twitter, FB, social platform, etc as the community has gotten older or just normal change.
The amount of cons out there precovid was absurd, outside very large and well established cons threads mostly weren't worth making.
Discord killed most con threads as anyone could build a channel and keep live updates around a con going, meaning con threads lost most meaning outside of grandstanding.
Covid made a lot of people either completely move on from cosplay, or force them into one of the areas listed previously.

This board has morphed from con discussion/cosplay/etc to "place I need to go so I can vent about (thing) outside the discord or social media group I am in". Sure there are threads with content but it's mostly just shit you could google easily at this point and find the answer elsewhere, discussion is just humble bragging with a side of LARP.
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>>10799709
lolita here. the cosplayers pre-lolitas were more interesting and I learned a lot from them.

please bring this crowd back, because lolitas are incompetent, useless, and boring.
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>>10799756
im hoping my cosplay thread doesnt become a trash heap due to the shitty arrogant lolitas and coomers
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>>10799713
>Discord killed most con threads as anyone could build a channel and keep live updates around a con going, meaning con threads lost most meaning outside of grandstanding.

Being on 4chan for years and constantly battling trolls and derailed threads made me yearn for more focused and moderated online conversation. I moved on to Discord, FB Groups, Telegram, and Reddit.

It also turns out that through these apps you can actually meet REAL people in REAL life and do REAL things as well! Wow!
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>>10799649
nta but i agree. i love clam blitz and i am very hyped for more of it in 3
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>>10799783
I'm tempted to ask for your Discord lol. It's so rare to hear that when I bring up Clam Blitz.

I'm kinda sad that I'll be on a flight for most of next week's Splatfest. I'll get in a few hours.
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do you miss them?
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>>10799791
These women are now in their mid 30s to early 40s. I wonder what they're up to now?
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>>10799831
at least one is dead and more than half are onlyfans/camwhores/selling their body in some way
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>>10799834
Which one is dead? Or are you theorizing
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>>10799846
No, they're dead.

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/family-speak-out-after-death-2000947
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>>10793854
I thought Lolitas being insufferable was just a meme but holy shit it's actually true.

Fuck outta here you cunts.
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>>10799645
Women are cowards?
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>>10799871
Lolitas ruin this board. Fuck their gay fashion sense.
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>>10799933
We actually had moderation and much less coomers and retards from other boards when the catalog was mostly lolita threads.
The current state of the board and cosplay threads taking over again come hand in hand.



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