Is Sexual harassment real or just a meme used by cosplayers to try to be funny, it seems like it judging from their pictures.I never seen anyone get molested. Also it seems like something pretty hard to do given the amount of people and also cameras. Unless your con has open areas where there isn't a lot of people or cameras probability you can get away with it.
Just look, if this were an issue they wouldn't be so cheerful about it.
Anon would you molest something that looks like this? Also I just realized all these sign holders are X-Men cosplayers what does it mean?
>>10785657It's mostly for the autistic people who have no personal space awareness and tend to ramble about inappropriate shit.Eg. "Oh you are cosplaying Robin yeah I saw that zone flash and Jerked off like 20 times, hey can I take a photo with you" then acts all handsy. You as a con goer typically dont hear about it, however con staff security has to deal with about a dozen or so cases.
>>10785657>people holding up cosplay doesnt equal consent signs>its always ugly cosplayersalways this
Why, yes, we nee to have this exact same thread for the millionth time.
>>10785657Yes Anon, sexual harassment does exist both physical and verbal. Stop being a willfully ignorant retard.
>>10785724sexual harassment is only physical, retard.
Does it happen? yesIs it so bad we have to have a whole movement about it? Doubtful. People get harassed everywhere I don't think cons are bad compared to other places
>>10785732I think you're thinking of the phrase "sexual assault"
>>10785657complete meme used by cosplayers trying to get more fans/likes/etc. or used by other cosplayers as a form of jealousy/getting back at other cosplayers.in the 10+ years of going to cons (houston, austin, san antonio, el paso, louisiana) i have never seen any cops taking anyone out, or cosplayer calling a volunteer/worker to deal with a fan/creeper. what i have seen is a lot of cosplayers hugging and putting their arms around fans, even kissing, sitting on them/stepping on them (the paul feig lying down and being stepped on by females).
>>10785657Yes, it's very much real, negro. Most of the times is something very subtle like being eyefucked by some random stranger from afar, or this one guy or girl creeping after you throughout all the con and taking stealthy pictures of you.
It happens. Unfortunately these days it's blown waaaayyy our of proportion (See. Hugh Mungus)Alot of cosplay girls are STARVING for attention from social media, so they will take any excuse in the book to try and go viral, even if it means lying or exaggerating.Some guy in passing will be like >Yo that cosplay makes your boobs look nice, haha.Which is a scummy thing to say, sure. But it is not sexual assault or harassment (unless he is just...following you and doing it for hours or some shit.)But these girls will take a passing comment like that and turn it into a 4 page long twitlonger about "how I was assaulted at this convention!!"(See. Tana Mongeau)It makes normal girls like me furious because when ACTUAL assault and harassment happens, people are less inclined to believe it, because these attention seekers have cheapened it so damn much.
>>10785738These cards are essentially telling you how ugly you are based on green being attractive to red being hideous gross ugly sperg
>>10785805>But it is not sexual assault or harassmentLet me ask you this, imagine if some dude randomly went to you (assuming you're a woman) or to a female friend/relative/significant other, and made that sort of comment. What would you classify that as?
>>10785657A stranger slapped my ass at a con once. I was wearing a cammy cosplay so I guess I was "asking for it"
>>10785732men can't possibly be this stupid, right?>>10785805>But it is not sexual assault or harassmentthat is absolutely sexual harassment of the verbal kind. if it's something you would be reported to hr for at work, it's sexual harassment. it doesn't suddenly become not harassment when the environment changes. omg men, really
>>10785816A pervert making a rude comment.If he then proceeded to follow me around and kept doing it for hours, I'd consider it harassmentAnd them if he touched me, I'd consider it assault.
Is it sexual harassment if I just stare at women in slutty cosplays and laugh into my hand at them until my amusement subsides and then walk away? Because I do that a lot. I like it when women get a fearful or hurt look on their face from it.
>>10785838Harassment by definition requires persistence.If some dick makes makes a one off comment to you, you are not being harassed... That's just some pervert making a comment.I know you want to feel important by using big scary words, but you're just making it worse for the rest of us girls who actually have a brain and self-respect.
>>10785846literal definition of sexual harassment via merriam-webster dictionary>uninvited and unwelcome verbal or physical behavior of a sexual natureit absolutely does not have to "require persistence" and people absolutely can be reported to hr for making "only" one comment, because it's still sexual harassment. there's no way you're a woman unless you're a tranny. only men could be this ignorant.
>>10785851Reported to HR, sure, but we aren't talking about workplace harassmentWe are talking about real world scenariosCan you get a restraining order? No way.Again, harassment requires persistence. If you wanna use Merriam Webster, fine, here is the definition of harass.>To annoy persistentlyThe world does not operate on some HR handbook. >No way you're a womanMy chromosomes beg to differ.
>>10785855Can you be banned from entering a convention if you violate their policies on sexual harassment? Sure why not, it's a private organization they can do whatever the fuck they want as long as it's not discrimination against protected classes.
>>10785856You're absolutely right, but can you face any real world legal consequences? No. Now if you persistently do it, absolutely!The rules of a convention aren't the rules of law, Jesus.See how Persistence matters?You weren't sexually harrassed because someone said you had nice tits. Even if some random convention or HR manual says you were.The law says you weren'tThe law says you weren't.And if you try to get a restraining order because one guy made one passing comment. They'll laugh you out of court
>>10785855look at the definition of SEXUAL harassment, which is its own category. again, just because you take the sexual harassment to a different environment does not suddenly make it not sexual harassment. this is such retard male logic. if it's sexual harassment in one place, it's sexual harassment everywhere. in my state the law says you can get a restraining order against anyone who exhibits "conduct that annoys or harasses a protected party" (women are a protected class, which you as an especially ignorant man might not know)
>>10785873You are so closeOk now... When the law in your state says "Harass" do they mean some HR manuals definition of "harass" or the actual, accepted definition. Because if you can get a restraining order for making a passing comment in your state then TMZ is just FUCKED there lol.I garuntee of you go in front of any judge and say>This guy said he liked the way my ass looks once, I'd like the police to forcibly remove him from any publicly occupied space that I am in, anytime I request.That judge will laugh you out of his courtroom
>>10785873>If it's sexual harassment in one place, it's sexual harassment everywhereSaudi Arabia would like a word with you.
>>10785856>>10785873You don't know what protected class means, do you.
>wear buttfloss in public>"w-why is everyone staring at me?"
>>10785922if you read that, you'll realize she clearly enjoyed the attention. she even made a pass at fat women for practically no reason.
>>10785922omg i wonder why she’s probably proud of the attention but doesn’t want to admit it out loud
i’ve worked staff on and off since 2008, and it definitely happens enough for us to be called around to sort out harassment issues every few hours.I personally think in character cosplayers get the brunt of it, because there’s this kind of strange aesthetic distance between viewer and cosplayer, that gives people the impression that they can get away with doing a little too much.
>>10785657I saw this guy sneaking photos of girl's asses this year at AX. I bullied him out of the con. He never asked. They were willing to do pics if he asked as they had done for several other fans. But he wanted to be creepy about it and the girls yelled at him about it. So yeah, sexual harassment is a thing.
>>10785838>sexual harassment of the verbal kindThat isn't real
>>10785944Did staff before and can confirm it is a thing but the amount of screaming online is often more overblown to being pic related. Which is funny because the story behind this comic is generally what con stories are, some white knights or 'friends' trying to stick up for someone when they misread the atmosphere. I don't exactly know what con you had reports every hour at, seems very high to me, but a few reports a day is about right.To answer OP's question: it's a reality but also a meme due to just how many times it's simply 'shit that totally happeend.txt'. I don't recall how many times that something 'totally literally just actually happened' only for the main focus to be getting said person banned from the con and not to escalate it to police. Generally those are the easy spot fakes and yes I am aware everyone can act differently but it's odd that you have a simple objective like that out of something so big just occurring.>>10786005It totally can, but not in the way the internet or 4chan thinks. 40 y/o boomer going to an 18 y/o going "looking good in that bathing suit girl' thinking he still has it and making catty comments is. Saying "nice costume looks great" isn't but you just know someone itching for drama will twist that.The best advice to be given here is just report it as soon as it happens, file any documentation you can, and take it from there. Shit like SA gets increasingly difficult to down right impossible to prove the longer you wait, and no cops aren't like CSI: miami. They will not look all that hard into something that happened +6 moths ago with someone called a "deku cosplayer" who's name you think was ted and lived somewhere in the state (maybe).
>>10786006>40 y/o boomer going to an 18 y/o going "looking good in that bathing suit girl' thinking he still has it and making catty comments is.no it's not actually. nta but they literally have to say sexually explicit things to you like "i want to fuck you or show me your tits".
>>10786008Cat calling can be considered it if it continues after being told unwelcome or the individual told to stop and persists. Depends on the state however as laws vary from place to place, people interpenetrate it differently, context and body language can matter, etc etc. There really is no blanket line in the sand unfortunately to what SA can be classified is compared to a slew of other things
>>10786009well judges actually take the situation into consideration and despite what anons think, being in a cosplay is for attention of some kind, wanted or not. and i doubt a judge will care that a revealing cosplay isn't from a hentai or not if you're there for photos or something. also, i am ONLY talking about comments, which aren't considered sexual harassment unless it's considered harassment in general, which is a legal term, no one should be touching others inappropriately.
>>10786012Harassment can mean a lot of things to a lot of people such as unwanted or unwelcome interactions physical or non physical, some states it must be stated by an individual to cease some do not have this requirement. Like I said there is no blanket statement, but yes generally there is limit to it after initial contact between two parties. Depending if it crosses the line from normal harassment to sexual is a can of worms that isn't worth diving into on a mongolian basket forum.>JudgeBy the time any case would even get there between two parties an absolutely heavy amount of proof needs to be established and we are talking hard proof. It's often far easier for the establishment to ban the individual in question if they can get some solid video or audio proof by their cameras or staff witnessing it, then issue a trespassers notice to said individual to leave. Following this, if the individual in question violates that it's an easy toss up to the cops then investigate the cause of said notice/warrant, and go from there to a court.I agree the term gets quite fluid in it's meanings to the point of losing it's own meaning, but it varies by state. The best advice though is to just report to staff issues you have and ensure you let the individual know ahead of time that their presence or actions were unwelcome in a clear manner. If you don't tell the individual or document it with staff or a third party, you end up with a game of he said she said.
>>10785791I'll look at whatever I want, pics are creepy though. If you don't wanna get eye fucked dress like it otherwise I'm window shopping for bitches.
>>10785851This is a ridiculous way to define things as there is no possible way to 100% know what will and won't make someone "uncomfortable" or be "unwanted" before the fact. All this kind of thing does is make it so normal human interactions become stepping on eggshells and lump in people who are genuinely harmful degenerates with normal people. Both these things just make people angry and less likely to care about actual harassment. It's a purposely vague and hypocritical way of thinking meant to control people and not actually help the victims it claims to.
>>10785855>>10785859>>10785906>>10785908>>10785805>>10785842Please PLEASE stop typing like a redditor retard.
>>10786033No, the definition is correct.
>>10786123Lol, your counter point is literally>Nuh-uh
>>10786123Since when do liberals care about definitions?
>>10786055>Proper spacing is RedditJesus Christ, seethe more.
>>10786031Based comment. If people dress like whores, then they deserve to be treated like whores.
>>10785675This. I swear anime brings out the worst cases of complained autists. They seem to think you're the character, but not even the anime version, the hentai/eroge version
>ITT: moids who don't know how to behave appropriately with womenwe really need to chemically castrate all of you retards
Like most matters of "sexual harassment", it happens but is very rare. Most of the stories told are either made up, embellished, or didn't actually involve harassment but rather just someone being "creepy", ie nothing.Some women enjoy being victims because it confers the perks of victimhood: sympathy, clout, attention and, most of all, status as someone beautiful and desired enough to be harassed.
>>10786076Asking a woman how often they get harassed by men is like asking a man how often he gets laid. They're always going to claim more than what is true since reality isn't interesting enough. Notice how most of those women in that video are ugly as fuck.
>>10786328You wouldn't say that irl or you'd get cancelled haha
It is an issue that is also affecting some men which is sad no one wants to talk about. So much easier for a girl to excuse a butt grab on a male cosplayer when it shouldn't be that way. Much worse if you go to a con with your boyfriend/girlfriend.Thankfully we have left things like the Yaoi paddles behind us culturally but I still wish "cosplay is not consent" could go both ways.
>>10786986Momokun touched a dude's asshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZVJoMfBGnUJust imagine the reaction if some guy touched her fat ass at a con
>>10786986>>10787009It's always cringe when men try to compete in the oppression olympics. You bitches like it stop being gay.
>>10787013I am gay Anon, I don't want women touching my ass.
>>10787013if the oppression olympics were just for internet points I'd agree but it's gotten to point now where people regularly get harassed from their jobs if the twitter mob decides their fate. If that's the world we're gonna live in, men absolutely should go nuclear in exposing grabby women, just to remind them how retarded it is to ruin someone's livelihood just because they played grab ass at a con
>>10785657>Is Sexual harassment realYes>I never seen anyone get molestedAnecdotal evidence is not factual evidence, you should strive to understand social issues better.Its been awhile since I have lurked here, I see the cope is still as bad as I remember, rather disappointing.
>>10787023fuck off femcel
>>10787020I agree with this. Women do get the worst end of it but it doesn't mean it doesn't happen to men as well. The biggest difference is because since it's more common for men than women to be touch-starved and not given compliments on their physical aspects, most men show that they are happy to get this kind of attention so it creates a socially accepted habit for women to do. Whereas on the opposite end, it happens so much to women starting from childhood that most are quick to snap at any physical or sexual contact and make it publicly known it isn't wanted. And so, society adjusts accordingly.In conclusion, men need to put away their pride and make it known if someone is touching them or speaking to them in a way they don't like. The more men do this, the more society will adjust accordingly. But good luck telling the shirtless buff cosplay dude that's letting a bunch of girls grab his ass and tits that. Men can only tell other men about this because if I said it, I'd just be called a bitch and prude. So it's up to you guys to fix it.
>>10787070lol nigga you gay.
>>10787082you're part of the problem, faggot.
>>10787070that Gaston guy was based for getting those girls thrown out for sexually harassing him
>>10787082Yes, yes whatever you kids say.>>10787097I haven't heard of this, been off of this site for a long while so I've missed out on recent dramas.
>>10787119it was at Disneyland, honestly at first I felt like it was a ridiculous overreaction but we would absolutely destroy the life of a man if the genders were reversed so...https://youtube.com/shorts/tcY84cEgQFI?feature=share
>>10785657You seem to have forgotten the social retards who used to "glomp" people randomly. There are dozens of stories of people getting injuries and costume damage from people who would get nearly full speed tackled by obese weebs before cons banned it. Same for yaoi paddles before those were banned.Now that cons are going mainstream it is unfortunately necessary because of all the normies that treat it as a miniature theme park with no guards and bouncers to keep you in line.
>>10786334The ugly ones get more harassment because they're easier targets. They look like they won't fight back, and not pretty enough to have a BF nearby who can break your nose, and not social enough to have friends around for protection.
Feminist women think everything a man does is harassment. The more "harassment" you can identity the more you can control men's actions.
>>10786007Post the edit thats actually 100% Accurate
>>10787244I don't care.I have been taught to not look at women on the street. My sexuality is a mess, composed by porn. Most of my day my sexuality is off. I don't think of sex, I don't do it and I will never have sex. I am the perfect man for today's society.I will never sexually harass someone simply because I was trained to not want sex and disregard it, as I am a man and I have to go through another whole process that involves consent in all steps just to have sex. So I decided to renounce my abilities and eventual rights to seduce women, and I live a sex free life.
>>10787274Sad but probably true.Also probably a component of why a lot of more advanced societies have stopped having children.
>>10787274just get your dick snipped and have fun sticking your dick in crazy, anon. it's not that hard
>>10785805>(See. Tana Mongeau)What we do here is go back (back back back...)
>>10787303Even the "crazies" in my area have someone they're dating, anon. It's my destiny to be some sort of mixture of voluntary and involuntary celivate.>>10787277What i've just said is true.
>>10787274Good on ya. Like the billions of sperm with only one reaching an egg, not all people will find someone. So this is why it's best to disregard sex and just enjoy life for yourself. If only men were not hardwired to be constant sluts with no self control.
>>10787417If you disregard sex you disregard relationships. Which means no companion, no intimate affection, and no family. Celebacy is the path of isolation and depression.
>>10785664She looks like the kinda girl that gets zero attention, spouts this shit, but lowkey wishes it happen for that scrap of validation
>>10787458i haven't been with a woman for like 7 years now. life is good. some people need it, not everyone
god i miss pre-2010 cons. they were just different
One time while I was cosplaying shirtless to show my abs some girl called me hot and gave me a hug. I literally burst into tears and ran back to my hotel room and sobbed into my pillow. I informed security about the incident and had the police escort her out of the con.Assault like this happens every day. Only when we speak out can we put a stop to it.
Am I as a man allowed to hit a girl who harasses me?Because when women hit their harasser they are treated as heros
>>10787417I do that partially. I mean, I have not given up finding someone, but that can wait after I get a decent job that can pay my debts and that can help my parents (I come from a poor household). It's more about holding the urges until you have room in your life to actually seek out a relationship.
It's absolutely a real thing, but not near as bad as people want to try and make it out to be, in frequency as well as severity.I'm admittedly more than a little biased after this one cosplayer I knew groped me a bunch, laughed when I told her to stop, and then did a photo op with the "cosplay is not consent" sign.
>>10785805>Yo that cosplay makes your boobs look nice, haha.>Which is a scummy thing to say, sure.Anon....
>>10785657Pretty real, even in 1st world countries. Women get molested a lot starting from like 12, usually starts weaning off around 25. The more insecure you look, the earlier and more you'll be preyed on. Either wearing "shy clothes", working in retail jobs, etc etc etc. False rape accusations are all the rage, but they're rare in comparison to actual rapes (where people are rarely punished) or plain sexual assault.
>>10785657You don't see it because, someone correct me if I'm wrong here, it's illegal.the guys who did this video got in a lot of hot water back in the day, because everyone thought it was non-consensual (really not very clear to me if it was consensual to this day to be honest)
>>10788374Oh shit, wrong thing
>>10786007Reminder this comic is a made up nonsense the author projecting his white knight fantasy on a social interaction he saw at a con internally redefined it to himself as sexual harassment.How the story goes guy meets cosplayer asks for pictures, girl poses guy & girl flirt eventually with each other becoming bf/gf while fat fuck seething in background envious that people would dare to share interests at "his" convention.Picture exists online of the fat fuck pretending to be writing or looking at his phone while this "sexual assault" went down
>>10791602this pic was part of a collage about it
>>10785657OP seek help.You literally just asked if sexual assault actually exists.
>>10785809Still a good system Basically are you on the right side of a 5 or notBut that’s life There’s double standards everywhere
>>10785922Show up in a Speedo with fishnets and a maga hatHard to tell who is more autistic, the cosplayer or the fans
>>10791614Bf is a cuck
>>10787464Like your mom
>>10785657My girlfriend went in a pretty skimpy cosplay once and I told her if she got harassed or assaulted than she deserved it for wearing something like that to a convention. She got groped in the first 30 minutes of being in that convention and immediately took off her cosplay right after.
>>10794990You sound like a prize. Skimpy cosplays are fucking stupid but so is interacting with your partner like that.
>>10795026Nah, he's right. Some people only learn by fucking up. If she didn't have the presence of mind to realize that wearing a skimpy outfit in a con filled with horny virgins, was a bad idea, then she has certainly learned his lesson and will pay better heed to her boyfriend's warnings next time.
>>10795026How else am I suppose to interact with her when she's wearing a skimpy cosplay? Let her know it's great and that I definitely think no one will harass or assault her because she's wearing it?
>>10795052>>10795131>not wearing lingerie while beekeeping
>>10787761No unfortunately because of double standards anon. The most you can do is scold them and tell to get away.
>>10785657Most of it is preventative. Like telling people not to glomp strangers or reminding people that they need to shower and use soap. 99% of con-goers know not to try and molest someone in public, but there's still that minority that needs to be tutted and told >you fucking stink and also keep your hands off women. >No one wants to be touched by you.It does happen. I've had a girl straight up, full hand, grab my junk, but I wasn't even in some sexy cosplay. [spoiler]It was a goddamned Naruto cosplay[/spoiler] I'm not even that good looking. Some people are just fucking retards and think that a convention is a great place to be flirty and then they start drinking and doing any drugs they can get their hands on and think>I'm gonna really impress this cosplayer with my confidence by just GETTIN IN THERE LIKE AN ALPHA MALE and then maybe I'll get laid at a convention like I think everyone else does!!And it's usually some ugly, homely loser who doesn't groom themselves and has zero self-awareness, so they become the one creepy guy story for that cosplayer. Someone who had hundreds of photos taken that day and interacted with and passed by thousands of people, but one guy was a retarded creep, so it becomes this hysterical exaggeration that implies that the majority of con attendees somehow didn't know that you aren't supposed to grope cosplayers.
>>10794990You should be protecting her
>>10787746>pre-2010Pre-social media everything was just better and friendlier and less creeper filled
>>10795241The damage tumblr did by injecting Homestuck and Twilight fans into anime weeb communities has been incalculable.
>>10795237He tried He’s not a bodyguard. Do you not care of his safetyFight your own fucking battlesIf she gets raped she gets dumped
>>10795026Belongs in bedroomIf you’re too dumb to not realize that you’re just good for sexBetter off marring a Russian or Asian girl
>>10785846So true queen. I will pick you.What's your discord?
>>10795244Tumblr girls rule actually
>>10787274do people NOT understand what Peripheral Vision IS?!?don't stare directly at their chest/face/butt/etc, just look at them via your peripheral vision, you get to check them out, you are not eye fucking them, and they'll have to explain why they called the cops on you for staring dirtily at that McDonald's McRibbs Billboard when your dick wasn't out
>>10785657Yes.Women are the worst culprits, sexually harassing every man who comes within line-of-sight to their whore-ish outfits. These thots are dressing to get attention. It's only "harassment" when an unattractive man gives them attention.This is female nature, unchecked. They WANT to be raped, just not by neck-beards.Logic doesn't make sense? That's because it's fucking woman-logic. They're narcissistic whores acting out on attention-grabbing impulses.They deserve consequences.
>>10795231If you're attractive and desirable, most women will treat uninvited attention as flattery and flirting. If you're an ugly autist who stinks like a stale poopsock, women will treat any attention from you as unwanted creeper behavior or sexual harassment.Lots of women do need to get themselves off the fucking pedestal they put themselves on, but I get it. I've worked at a gamestop and I've dealt with the giga-autists who tell you which Sonic the Hedgehog characters they want to fuck, or the massively obese mouth-breather who will literally spend hours blabbering on about some stupid bullshit, because they mistake polite smalltalk as genuine friendly interest. If they kinda of subhuman creature was also interested in fucking me, I'd be terrified too.
>>10801439>giga-autists who tell you which Sonic the Hedgehog characters they want to fuck>tfw i read this and realize i'm a hybrid of that and of an actualcool guy because i'm famous in my area, people truly like me, but i don't get one single girl wanting meyeah i'll always be the chubby funny dude that everyone loves as a friend but is undesireable
>>10801456That modicum of self-awareness you have means there is hope for you.
>>10785844If you are creepy, it's always sexuell harassment
>>10785816NAYRT, but I'd take it either as rude comment, or an autistic one, depending on how I perceive the person.Sometimes it's just an autist who doesn't even know what he said is inappropriate.I agree with >>10785805, that is not sexual harassment.t. someone who went through weird shit at cons, specially in my early teens.>>10786055I do not care about Reddit, I've been using spaces between paragraphs since I started posting on forums almost 20 years ago.
>>10785657It's real. Some nerds have boundry issues and cant keep their hand to themselves. Also, sports?
>>10797972Not sure if woman or man
>>10791602What do I search to read the drama
>>10801457I'm too much self aware, sometimes to the point it's a problemPlus thankfully I hold myself well enough on convention settings and thus I enjoy an all around "this guy is awesome" and "he's a shining light in a world full of bad people" reputation.
>>10785809I would be offended even if I got the green one. It reads like a backhanded compliment
>>10785738yes, because the first thing i want to do is upset someone being a creep by insulting them firsthand.
>>10785657>woman and man flirt>women does some stuff>women regrets>claims it was sexual assault or harassmenta couple of my buddies went through this. girls who clearly initiated and wanted to fuck them. the next day, they didnt want to be seen as sluts so claimed the guys had forced themselves on her. women are a piece of shit
>>10785738gonna print out a shitton of red cards and hand them out randomly to innocent con goers.
>>10785809The problem is who does the judging?
>>10785804He raped her with his eyes. Now she'll have to get an abortion.
>>10785738Into the trash it goes!
It happens.I ended up having to retire my Legato Blue summers cosplay because of being groped multiple times in the vendors hall at my local convention.
>>10785838>it doesn't suddenly become not harassment when the environment changesNo, we CAN and DO treat behavior differently depending on the setting. Our expectations of what is respectful behavior is probably affected most by the setting, e.g. this remark is tolerated at a party or con but it's not okay for the office.
>>10805784it's been 2 months
>>10785825That was me, and I'll do it again too.
>>10804629Men at cons:hey great costume!Women at cons: help! I’m getting raped!
https://www.bitchmedia.org/post/how-big-a-problem-is-harassment-at-comic-conventions-very-big-survey-sdcc-emerald-city-cosplay-consent>Out of all respondents, 59 percent said they felt sexual harassment was a problem in comics and 25 percent said they had been sexually harassed in the industry. The harassment varied: while in the workplace or at work events, respondents were more likely to suffer disparaging comments about their gender, sexual orientation, or race. At conventions, respondents were more likely to be photographed against their wishes. Thirteen percent reported having unwanted comments of a sexual nature made about them at conventions—and eight percent of people of all genders reported they had been groped, assaulted, or raped at a comic convention.
>>10807707>bitchmedia.orgWhich color is your hair nonny?
It depends. From personal experience, things tend to be a bit better nowadays VS 10 years ago when "glomping" and chest groping were seen as "socially awkward but kawaii desu" and "quirky". Also cons where there's a lot more room tend to feel a bit safer. Most of the sexual harassment I'd get came from crowded dealers halls where people were shoved together and some grimier people would use it as an opportunity to grope/up-skirt/kiss shoulders/thrust into your back.I think the Cosplay != Consent movement honestly helped a bit though I do think it's a bit overdone nowadays and deters some people from going to cons/gives the community a bad name.
>>10804629kek so hardthanks anon
>>10807758>movementThere was no "movement" nonnie. Nobody who cared about consent and avoiding sexual assault came to that conclusion because a con put up a sign with a cutesy rhyme. Nobody inclined to do those things was deterred by it. Its the same self congratulatory bullshit as the "teach men not to rape" mantra.
>>10785657You must be a man if you have to ask this. Or you're too young to have experienced the "glomping" era and yaoi paddles.
>>10807758>>10808390People really forget how nasty fujos can be. The kind of obnoxious girls who went from Hetalia to Homestuck to whatever the fuck they're doing now. Probably Genshin Impact. They were the biggest offenders of being con creeps. Throwing themselves on other people, regardless of gender, yaoi paddles, groping strangers, forcing people into kisses and other intimate poses for photos. Fujos would be on sex offender registries for the kind of shit that used to run rampant at cons if they weren't girls.
>>10808385you would be amazed at how quickly creeps recoil into the darkness when people call out their behavioror maybe you wouldn't, because you sound like an angry creep who needs to touch grass
>>10808411Sorry to have disrupted your belief that the "cosplay is not consent" mantra did any of those things. You missed out on the Civil rights movement. You will never get to be part of that. You will never be historically relevant. You missed out. Too bad. Your larp convinces nobody but yourself.
>>10808385>>10808411Laws and rules are punitive, not preventative. Any subhuman awful enough to force themselves on a random stranger or believe that a cosplayer was "asking for it" doesn't have enough braincells to care about what the rules say.
I'm a man and some random dude kissed me on the cheek, then ran off at nighttime. It was at a larger convention and I was not even in cosplay. Just going to be more statistically probable that there are some creepy people when there are more people gathered. I'd be willing to bet, that just like with all crime, it's a very small percent of people attending that actually commit the assaults/harassment. It's definitely not a meme though, just blown out of proportion to the point where some people think literally 90% of the guys there are creeps.
>>10808417the mantra itself didn't, but the signage warding away creeps and making staff actually deal with and get rid of these creeps certainly didbut you seem very upset by this - that you think reminding people not to be creeps is somehow a bad thing. do you feel personally targeted?>>10808419you can go on /r9k/ and visit any women hate thread to see how upset creeps are that they could be punished for their behavior and how that leads them to do nothing instead
>>10808421>the signage didWild. I'm sure you can prove that somehow.
>>10808421>you can go on /r9k/ and visit any women hate thread to see how upset creeps are that they could be punished for their behavior and how that leads them to do nothing insteadlollmaoDid you think anyone would believe you?/r9k/ doesn't attend conventions. There were already rules and laws in place that say it's bad to sexually assault other people. If you think a bunch of incel losers took one look at those signs and broke down in tears because they thought that a giant public event with tens of thousands of people was going to be their chance to force themselves on a cosplayer when they can't even look girls in the eye, you're not just delusional, you're retarded.
>>10808426Are you trying to imply that /r9k/ was responsible for all the yaoi paddle violence?
>>10808426Thr long forgotten yaoi paddle. Known best for rampant possession among creepy men, probably!
>>10808427>If you think a bunch of incel losers... thought that a giant public event with tens of thousands of people was going to be their chance to force themselves on a cosplayer, you're not just delusional, you're retarded.
>>10808428just one of the many examples of creeps being creeps because they thought cosplay was consent
>>10808429Ah yes, /r9k/ and the incels, with their women hate threads, hand in hand with fujoshis and their depraved sexual antics occuring at mid-00s anime conventions.>>10808430Yaoi paddles were banned before "cosplay is not consent" became a thing because retards were assaulting people with them and causing serious injuries... BECAUSE ASSAULT AND BATTERY IS ALREADY A CRIME AND ALREADY AGAINST THE RULESGod, you're dense.
>>10808430You're apparently too young to realize paddles were banned from events not shamed away by your lame posters. Are you saying we need posters so women can behave at conventions? Wild claim femcel I wonder if that will get any traction.
>>10808432>>10808434>noooo creep behavior doesn't exist at cons because... it just doesn't okay???>okay actually it did but... it got banned and the ban worked, but your awareness and bans don't work because... they just don't okay?????always the moids
>>10808437>>noooo creep behavior doesn't exist at cons because... it just doesn't okay???Literally no one said that. Put the goal post down and shove it up your ass.
>>10808437Its ok nonny. You can stop beating up that strawman now. Everyone here can read the posts and know that isn't what was said. This is getting pathetic.
This thread fucking sucks.
>>10808438>>10808439Will you two just fuck already?
>>10808443Anon arguments are not consent, sweaty.
Probably the wrong place to ask, but I once read a doujinshi where the characters go to a convention where cosplay is consent and several dozen pages of public con cosplay orgies ensue. Im pretty sure i guy dressed up as Link fucks his sister. Can't seem to find it now, so I was wondering if one of you knows where it is.
>>10785657Eh, when I cosplayed Sona once some kids joked about rape but that's about it.And when I mean kids, I mean like 13. Where tf are their parents
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