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It’s coming up in a few weeks
Who bought their tickets back in 2019?
Who is worried about guest or even cancellations at this point?
I’ll be attending with pretty casual expectations
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>>10762688
I bought tickets this year. No real expectation besides the tea party damn sure better have good food and good vibes. I regret spending the money on a ticket with all the cons coming back
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>>10762688
Are famous guests even attending? Will it be local nobodies along Etsy tier shops vending there?
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I have a VIP ticket that I've rolled over since 2020. no expectations at all. hoping to be pleasantly surprised but realistically will be disappointed. so far it's only 3f attending so unlikely to have good swag or any extras
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>>10762757
3f seems to love the US/Paradiso. Makes me wish I loved their stuff more
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Where's the fucking schedule

Why hasn't the website been updated in 2 years

What guests are actually still coming
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I have been rolling over this ticket since 2020 and we are a month out and there is absolutely no information other than theme. The model applications say the fashion show is at 8pm now, which like okay but what the fuck is happening from 10am-8pm now, this is a daytime event
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>>10762759
3F would be better if they didn't clipart their brand name into all their prints and if they could actually release a flattering cut of dress.
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>>10762879
Does this mean people applying to model will miss the events they paid to be a part of for green room time? Yikes.
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>>10762892
>would be better if they didn't clipart their brand name into all their prints
Other lolita brands do this too. So do designer brands
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>>10762894
It says call time is 5pm so if they have anything happening 5-8 beyond shopping, every model will miss out. Kinda shitty imo but without any type of schedule it's hard to gauge how shitty.
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>>10762847
Isn't the vip party in the website at a place that isn't even open anymore? Do they even have access to this website any more? It looks like the ssl expired
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>>10762847
My guess is they’ll push it to next year and send the announcements out soon. I highly doubt they’re going to have the event that soon especially with that outdated website and putting out zero promotional material.
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>>10762955
Is this a joke? I have a hotel and flights booked. It would be downright insane to cancel this soon
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>>10762969
Considering how little they’ve posted, I wouldn’t be surprised. It’s suspicious that they’re quiet right before the event.
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>>10762955
they just announced an indie brand so it seems like they're still going on with it
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Fuck this. I’m canceling and requesting a plane ticket refund.
The only people attending are fatso itas and bunch of nobodies. This event was misleading and attendees should be rightfully refunded
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>>10762688
Lame
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>>10762908
Triple Fortune literally slap it on top of the print - at least AP, Baby, and Meta make an effort to incorporate it, and Moitie make it a border.
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>>10762930
Holy fuck all these red flags are piling up
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>>10763087
>>10762930
Heads up
Half the guests aren’t going
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There’s nothing about this event that I’m looking forwards to at this point, just feeling obligated to go because it’s local and I’ve already paid.
Maybe it won’t be an enormous lame mess.
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>>10763238
Posted earlier but I'm going without expectations because friends are going. I'm happy for an excuse to travel, I really don't need to see Lor or some other dork put on a panel. Been wearing lolita enough years that it's purely about wearing the clothes while having fun for me, I don't need to discuss coords and styling anymore
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I kind of wanted to go but I can't because conflicting schedule. That's really unfortunate it's falling apart even with that injection of cash, jesus.
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>>10763548
Same. A lot of guest had pulled out
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>nothing about guests
>nothing about schedule of events
>nothing about supplemental events like swap meet or VIP party
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>>10764011
“You all just got scammed”- Ace family
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>>10764011
So are they allowing refunds? Because this event is absolutely false advertising guests who are no longer going
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>>10764011
Well they said they'd release it "by the end of the week" so we better have a schedule detailing all this info by Sunday
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The way they are now posting should’ve been done 6-4 weeks ago
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Do you think I will I be allowed to wear Die Walkure and Little Cat Sambo coords to this?
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>>10764052
probably 2nd one but not first. only because people probably wouldn't realize what it is. kek.
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>>10764032
They’re too lazy to even change out their old information from the website and Facebook messenger.This is a disaster
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>>10764011
I see they are lurking. Since they read here, I have no plans to attend this event any longer. Im glad I added flight cancellation when I bought mine.

Guests are flying in for this and booking hotels so making important announcements three weeks beforehand is unprofessional. It is a shame because this was one of the few okay lolita events. Well the organizers messed that notion up.
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>>10764174
Same. But I don’t know if they take admission refunds
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hahaha eat shit you stupid bitches have fun at your cringe femcel con!
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>>10764178
Go bathe faggot
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>>10764011
>We've TOTALLY been communicating but you just didn't notice because we were using our ticketing platform and you ignored the emails!

Why gaslight us though.
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>>10764178
have sex
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>>10764177
I can ask if a friend who is a local wants the ticket. It might be too late to do a charge back. I’m personally not supporting this shit show.
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>>10764178
Your just mad that you’re banned from the paradiso after party lesbian orgy
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>>10764208
Where’s this at exactly?
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>>10764209
Who said fattys were allowed? Obviously there’s a scale check by the door uggo.
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>>10764210
will post the room # and time when it's confirmed.
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>>10764178
You wish we were femcels. I’m having sex as I’m typing this post.
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>>10764416
Kek. Anyone willing to document? Who knows if kawaiifluffyjo is going?
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>>10764453
If I can't get a refund for my tickets or sell them off I'll probably go and document.

Really hoping I can just save my money though because wow the event schedule they just dropped is fucking bare bone
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>>10764453
She is
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>>10764453
literally who?
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Schedule is up.

Fashion show is so late wtf.
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>>10764484
Lame asf
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>>10764484
Yeah I am definitely not staying up late for that show
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>>10764484
3 1/2 hour gap of nothing between vendor hall closing and fashion show. I know the expectation is probably “go out to eat dinner with friends” but that’s not event planning.
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>>10764508
They might be doing a later model call to give them time to shop, if that's the case then that gap is for show prep.
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>>10764508
Hell they could’ve added panels for that gap while models are pulled and prepped for fashion show.

I don’t understand why they make the fashion so late
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>>10764484
……that’s all? First year anime conventions have more happening.
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Is it me or did they rushed making this schedule
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>>10764484
I still don't know who the guests are...
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so they're having Brilliant Kingdom perform in Union Station... a train station made out of stone and marble with the worst acoustics imaginable....
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I can’t believe some ita Canadians are flying in for this. Just stay home.
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>>10766536
It’s ok, they sound terrible anyway
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>>10766628
? who?
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Bye bye, poopadiso.
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>>10766801
Bet they thought running their dream convention would be totally easy.
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>>10766801
God damn it, was hoping to go next year
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>>10766806
why would you assume they thought that? this isn't even the first year of the con like it was for RVR
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>>10766820
>this isn't even the first year of the con
What the fuck, I didn't even know
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>>10766823
guess there are still some covidlitas hanging around
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>>10766801
For the best, really. After being poorly handled it was coming down the line one way or the other. At least it's a frank, easy shutdown and not a messy, drawn out "i'm not dead yet."
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>>10762688
>Paradiso is dead
>Otakon and other major cons dont have any lolita events

Looks like 2022 is a bust for my social life
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Anyone want a vip ticket? I won’t be going so gimme 75 bucks and it’s yours.
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>>10766892
Interested. You can also post it in the paradiso Facebook group
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>>10766892
I'm interested!
Email is kekeke2022x@gmail.com
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>>10766801
They made this post just so people can buy tickets and hop on a last-minute flight.
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>>10766899
My first thought. A lot of people didn't want to go since they dropped the ball but now since it's the last one some are changing their minds.
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>>10766899
I think there are like 10 people total on this board lol
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>>10766766
Our favorite clown and the obese goth CoF mod.
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>>10766960
Let me guess...Lovely Lor was their last options on lolita guests? Because all of the bigger guests has pulled out
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>>10766893
I don’t have a fb anymore I deleted it. Can’t deal with the bs and drama. My professional life is my priority now. Although I wear lolita on occasion. Mostly I’m a loneita now.
>>10766896
Emailed you.
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>>10767005
Thanks!
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>>10766960
Jenntiddy? She is not a famous e-lolita
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>>10767021
Who said she was famous? She’s a bitchy ham planet ita who should stay home.
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>>10766960
I can’t understand how Jen fits into Moitie. How is it physically possible? Shape wear can only do so much.
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The website shows that 10 tickets are left for this event now. Maybe they’ll recover and make a come back in a few years.
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>>10767208
I don't have high hopes I kind of regret going to this instead of a normal con with better guests. All I care about is Japanese brand
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>>10767208
People would have to be retarded to attend the event again, it can stay dead.
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>>10767051
Jenntiddy probably uses a binder for her Mommy Milkers
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>>10767214
I know they had Meta in the past; if they are able to recover, perhaps they could get Japanese brands once more, but I think the current pandemic is definitely putting a damper on it for now.
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>>10767328
Dashcon 2.0?
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>>10764484
Wtf is this Midwest Ouji Sama Pageant? This sounds like some anime con bullshit. I never paid attention to this event because I’m a lonelita who doesn’t care about events anymore it this sounds cringe as hell.>>10764453
Why is this ugly cringe lord popular?
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>>10767333
We get it you're so cool anon. Everyone is clapping.
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>>10767328
>Go fund me + ticket sales.
I’m sure they made enough and just wants to end this shit
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Inflation fucked up everything
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>>10767377
Boy did it
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>>10767386
Racism
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>>10767390
Piss off, av*na
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2 days away from the swap meet and pre-party.

How's everyone's packing coming along?
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Stupid question: How will the swap meet work, exactly? Do I need to bring my own clothing rack? Will there be tables we can use? What's the best way to price my items?
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>>10771803
Generally people price swap meet items lower since it’s much easier to sell in person than on lace market so it’s worth the price cut
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>>10771892
how much lower? like 15% or so?
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>>10771893
There’s no set amount. Sell it for as low as you want you doofus.

>>10771803
For swap meets i attended, you bring a blanket, tarp or suitcase to sell out of.
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>>10771803
Quick tip, consider making labels that you can pin or clip to your things. Write asking price and your phone number in case you have an interested buyer and are away shopping elsewhere at the meet.
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>>10771803
i also have a swap meet question; is it alright if i arrive a bit late to the swap meet? is it the kind of thing people can come and go throughout the whole duration? or would that be rude and would i have no place left to set up my stuff? i have work that day and im not sure if i’ll be able to get there right when it starts
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>>10771907
>Sell it for as low as you want
well i was more wondering if it would be rude if i just sold it at full price...
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>>10771954
I'm gonna be late. I'm late to everything besides work, it's generally fine
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>>10771963
It’s not rude but you’ll potentially have a much harder time selling things
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>>10771948
Shoot I don't really have any time for that....
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>>10762688
I’m glad that I sold my ticket. It’s an event for a group of sweaty itas. It’s no wonder this is Paradiso’s last year.
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>>10764178
Fatty learned a new word
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>>10767328
she definitely used this to find her crappy plastic ring business
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There’s fucking unlabeled shellfish on the tea party buffet. They had a staffer come around and ask our table if we had any food restrictions or allergies but why bother if nothing is even labeled anyway??
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>>10773165
Happened last year too, unlabeled food allergens, not to mention hair in the food.
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>>10773165
>>10773193

Were the names of the dishes included at all or just all food on trays with no labels?

Like I guess if someone has an allergy it's their own job to keep themselves safe within reason, but that requires the event to properly handle and label food or else people can't safely make the right food choices. The event should at least have the allergen free plates labeled at a minimum so people know what is safe.
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allergics btfo'd
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Stupid question but since paradiso is kill, what are some other cons in the US that are good for j-fashion? Trying to go to some events next year after not having gone to a con since I was 15
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>>10773193
>>10773200
Kek. So worried about masks and vaccines but, cannot worry on guests food allergies.
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Ok but did you see the child slave going around serving milk to each table?
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>>10773200
Each table setting had a program with a menu, so you could see the food being served before getting up to get it. But at the actual buffet itself there were no labels.
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Wtf happened to Paradiso? This was wack
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>>10773254
Hahaha seethe harder ita trash this was exactly what you deserved
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Yea, anyone who still attends or supports this event deserves the disappointment they paid for.
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>>10773233
THAT WAS SO WEIRD AND MADE US SO UNCOMFORTABLE, she didn't even look older than like 9??
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>>10773275
Why didn’t you call the police? Don’t let the sjw crowd find out you allowed child slave labor to happen in front of your eyes.
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>>10773221
Food allergies are a Chinese hoax and only less than 1% of the population will die from it
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>>10773303
Come choke on deez nuts then
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>>10773275
It was so weird. None of the caterers seemed prepared for a group our size. They were dressed like they walked in off the street and had a kid walking around serving.
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>>10773220
RVR, but that probably won't happen as soon as next year. Tekko usually has great jfash guests. Sometimes comms have more regional large events like the Dollywood lolita day or BAK pop up. Depends on if youre only looking for cons, or for events in general
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>>10773377
>BAK
You’re aware that group is full of commie sympathizers and gender special wokies right?
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>>10773254
Why do you think so many of us sold off our tickets? Newfags and itas were the only ones attending.
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Brilliant kingdom as the main attraction. Haggard 80 year old Japanese women howling off key to a backing track of castlevania music.
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>>10773193
Wasn't last year cancelled and that's why they claimed to need the gofundme?

>>10773220
There are none. Cons are for itas.
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>>10773254
Paradiso was never good
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Where were all the guests they said were going to be there? Was there ever an announcement of cancellation?
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keep the updates coming, i love a good trainwreck
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Anyone got tea pics?
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>>10773221
Idk why you're complaining to me I didn't say shit about anything but allergies.

>>10773236
Oh ok so not zero information but sort of how a sit down restaurant with table service lablels allergens on a menu. Seems like a bit of an oversight if you can't really tell different food items apart easily but I haven't seen any pics of what the buffet looked like or the actual menu.
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>>10773377
Tekko put out a gofundme otherwise they're folding
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For the record, it was all delicious and I’m lucky I don’t have any food allergies. But it was hard when there were two trays of menu items that looked so similar
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>>10773473
damn that is way too similar to not have things clearly labeled, that could have been a disaster
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Was the VIP ticket worth it?
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>>10773478
Not from what I saw, you only got a half hour earlier to shop and some priority seating. Being able to sit closer was maybe only worth it at the tea? And even then it was just to see the Ouji pageant more clearly.
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>>10773501
the one that was all jeans?
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>>10773478
No it was not worth it
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>>10773515
No they put on performances to "woo" the audience or something, I was sitting far away so I missed some of it. None of them were wearing denim though.
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>>10773586
They’re doing woo at Paradiso???? It’s not a mystery why it’s their last year holy shit.
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What happened to Hello Batty?
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>>10773663
She’s a fat trashy ita. What else is new.
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Yeah but wasn’t she supposed to be there?
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>>10773515
that picture is from years ago
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I volunteered because it was free. The fashion show was filled with uggos and fatties. One of them brought their dog onto the stage. This was a clown show disaster
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>>10773722
Obesity aside, what indie brand was this? And why dress everyone in the same print + styling? It looks terrible and is even more boring.
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>>10773727
how did they have the self confidence to do this
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>>10773727
Spookysparkleparty
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>>10773727
I don't mind plus size lolitas but I don't like the length of these dresses or the color palette.

A fashion show is what it is though. Ugly ass puvithel designs are in every fashion show I've seen lately. The comments above in the thread are insane, the models are volunteers who are picked by the designers, staff, or brand reps. This is why certain fatties get to model for AP while better lolitas don't. Just be influential with the organizers and you won't have to wear spooky sparkle and other Etsy spoonflower shit. The A-kon fashion show was equally shitty
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>>10773747
>This is why certain fatties get to model for AP while better lolitas don't.

AP USAs shopgirls are chubby for Asians but still fit AP. They don't care that someone is fat looking if they're small enough to fit the clothes. Lolita is the fat girl fashion.
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>>10773722
How much volunteer things did the volunteers actually do? I gave up trying to ask staff or volunteers anything because they just didn’t know much of anything.
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>>10773473
There was one that looked vaguely like a savory cream puff had shrimp in that isn’t pictured here. They were out of the triangular one by the time they called my table to go up and my friend had a mild reaction to shrimp. Did they stick shrimp in two of the items?
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>>10773797
I'm imagining a morbidly obese 300 lb whale saying this while trying to fit into an old school dress made with a 25 inch waist
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>>10773819
>for asians
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>>10773819
AYRT and nah you only have to be like 130-150 lbs to look fat if you're like 150-160 cm. I saw the AKon pics. All the fatties working the AP SF booth were Asian. Not talking about old school but just modern AP. Some shopgirls in Japan look a little chunky too but not as bad as these ones.
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>>10773826
Americans being huge in general doesn't make lolita a "fat girl fashion" in Japan. there's a reason all those older dresses are made with small waists, and even being "fat for an Asian" would prevent you from wearing them.
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>>10773831
People who wear lolita in Japan now are often fat for Asians though. And in the past many lolitas weren't as fat as people are now but definitely not especially thin compared the the average either. People in Japan call it the fat and weird girl fashion not westerners.

I wasn't really referring to old school but old school pieces are not the tiny waifish sizes you think they are. They are not hard to fit if you're a short or small framed person. Sorry if you use fitting old school as thinspo or whatever because of your massive ribcage, but those pieces are just normal sized for short women.
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>>10773838
i already fit in old school. nice try coping though fattie. i have not, and will not, ever see a fat Asian fit in them
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>>10773839
I fit old school too, it's literally not that hard to do unless you're just very tall or large-framed, that's my point. I've seen JP lolitas. Many shopgirls are chubby by Japanese standards and some chubby by American standards too.
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>>10773839
most japanese girls have 60cm waist lmao...
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>>10773840
I'm neither very tall nor large-framed. the average height in Japan is 5'2", and being fat at 5'2" won't get you a 25 in waist. you only ever see them wear the shirred clothing if they're fat.

what APUSA shopgirl are you talking about anyway? there's just the one fattie i can think of but she just wears modern shirred AP like every other whale
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>>10773853
I was never talking about old school to begin with anon someone else brought it up because you or whoever were trying to say Asian lolitas can't be fat just because old school is small sized but literally old school isn't even that small but I digress.

All 3 of the Asian women there were fat. The old lady and the other 2.
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>>10773855
the older one isn't very fat, she just has those thick, squat bow-legs that every other japanese person has
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>>10773839
You haven't seen a lot of Japanese lolitas. Compare the average Japanese women to a Japanese lolita of the same age and lolitas are definitely chubbier.
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>>10773727
All the dresses were SO short looking, aside from just being ugly. They just showed one dress in various colors in various fatties and half of the girls were too tall so all the audience saw was petti shots and ol bubble legs there. This was the second most grieves thing, next to puvithels hideous lineup
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>>10773839
Ive been an old schooler for several years, and almost all of my pieces are pre-2007. Every single one of them is giant on me at 120lbs. Even the Angelic Pretty OPs. It’s a serious misconception that old school only fits tiny asian girl bodies lol
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>>10773831
Anon yes, it’s known as an ugly fat girl fashion in Japan. It’s obvious you have never seen the plethoras of ita ham planets wandering around with their suitcases there.
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Tested positive for covid
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>>10773963
How tall are you?
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>>10774054
lol
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>>10773947
Ugh, exactly. I don't understand how it's an indie brand, basically for fat people, but they don't make the dresses longer? What's the point of offering plus sized things if they still look ill-fitted?
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>>10773963
You’re either a larper or an ana chan.Old school isn’t really any smaller than most stuff from most brands. Just because AP has gotten bigger doesn’t mean all brands have.
However if you’re 120 pounds and things are “huge” on you, you must be like 6 feet tall and all the weight is your bones.
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anyway, did anything else happen at paradiso
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>>10774116
Nothing really. Very boring event
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>>10774116
Double penetration princess was more agitating here than at Akon.
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Literally nothing happened this year at Paradiso. It peaked in 2018. Why get bigger venues for less shit to do? What a waste of money. Should have taken a global pandemic as a sign to stop
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What happened to our resident giant gay Asian? Wasn’t as fun without him.
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>>10774134
Linda?
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>>10773727
Those feet
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>>10774135
Sora?
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>>10774130
Bro what
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>>10774116
90% certain Nightwhisper Lolita is a Taobao reseller and they had models wear Taobao dresses on the runway while claiming they were their own original designs.
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>>10774227
Nevermind, confirmed it. They do have a FEW original designs (and only ONE that is spandex despite them making a huge deal about it at the fashion show and on their Etsy..) and not a single original design was on the runway. They were modeling dresses that aren't theirs.
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>>10774227
>>10774233
lmao
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>>10774233
They credit themselves that way because they are the only ones who offer those dresses in plus sizes. They work with at least 1-2 taobao brands and have permission to sell larger sizes, I gather.
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>>10774244
Not defending them btw, just explaining.
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>>10774116
no, aside from the hiccups with the tea party caterers. i had low expectations going there though. it went fine, the venues were beautiful, and i had fun

>>10774227
>while claiming they were their own original designs
did they actually claim this? because this isn't the first time a reselling shop exhibits their clothing on a runway. Kuroshirokawaii has done the same.
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>>10774249
there's very unclear communication about it on their etsy shop, saying their dresses are all either original designs or "collaborations", and on the runway the announcer said they were all Nightwhisper Lolita dresses made of spandex, which none of them were.
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>>10774249
Actually that wasn't clearly expressed. I didn't mean they're taking credit for the designs so I shouldn't have said it that way. I was trying to say that's why they credit themselves as designers. But I guess after looking at their stuff again that maybe they actually do have their own designs now. They didn't used to I believe. Also I didn't realize KSK had done designs not their own. That changes my impression too.
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>>10774256
Yeah that's what I was trying to say. They're cagey about it, making it seem like they design more than customize, when the opposite is true.
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>>10774260
also don't a lot of these Taobao brands accept custom sizing? I thought you could ask about it through your shopping service. The markups on some of these dresses seem a bit absurd just for them to be "plus-size." I could be wrong but when their Etsy is saying they're aiming for accessibility and these dresses are available for less than half the price on Taobao I don't consider that accessible...
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>>10774297
Yeah I don't buy taobao but afaik that's true. One of the things I saw when I googled them was that they customize up to 7X, I don't think any taobao brands would go that large.
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>>10774313
this. a lot of taobao brands won't go that large. they don't want to make clothes for fatties.
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>>10774315
why not? that's their niche market. it's why the western fats wear nothing but taobao
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>>10774256
>Lolita dresses made of spandex
>lolita dresses
>spandex
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Fatties and trannies fatties and trannies fatties and trannies.
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How were the 3f fashion show looks?
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Who all caught covid
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>>10774361
dallas comm brought covid kek
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>>10774369
Dpp crew
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>>10774321
I know the spandex is so stupid
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>>10774144
She was licking anyones ass if they were a mod or had a bigger following than her. She was begging for group photos too. It was cringe.
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>>10774369
Why is this comm problematic wherever they go?
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>>10774369
>>10774460
The girl with covid isn’t from dallas
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>>10774461

Sure thing, anon who totally isn't part of the Dallas clean up crew
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>>10774461
you guys don’t even attempt to be incognito when you come on here to defend yourself. literally who else besides you guys would make that comment/correct that anon? think lol
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>>10774488
they're from texas, they don't think.
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>>10774461
You sound like you know her so where is she from?
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>>10774361
>>10774369
>>10774461

All it takes is one asshole to infect everyone else, but sure, go off about how cons should ease mask mandates
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>>10774485
>>10774488
>>10774538
Or I just looked at her Facebook profile
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>>10774460
They're not even problematic gulls just hate them. Bringing COVID would be problematic assuming that's true but what else have they done but be annoying or ita?
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>>10774545
Tell me you’re joking. Why do you think they’re hated?
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>>10774556
Other than Tyler being Tyler and this COVID thing none of the DFW comm have done anything but be cringe afaik. But I don't follow them religiously, only see them reposted by people I follow.

The hate toward them literally only started like the last year or two on cgl. Their comm has been pretty normal overall and the only mod I know of in that comm is super nice and sweet, reasonable when it comes to repercussions for people acting inappropriately, and has never done anything harmful or problematic. And I only know this about her because people on cgl literally mentioned how nice she is when the Tyler stuff went down when I'd originally never heard of her.
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>>10774567
they literally blew up cgl threads that mention any of them and have had the mods call out reporting/self posting by them on the farms. try again.

and now they're posting on the paradiso page about how they brought covid in a desperate attempt to throw someone under the bus when multiple ppl probably had covid while at that event. ppl are flying in from all over the country.
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>>10774579
>they literally blew up cgl threads that mention any of them
I think most of those threads are likely more derailed by people targeting toast-chan specifically since cgl literally has a "dont single people out" rule. Not by some covert operation by the entire comm. She's the one people hate the most.

>and now they're posting on the paradiso page about how they brought covid in a desperate attempt to throw someone under the bus when multiple ppl probably had covid while at that event. ppl are flying in from all over the country.

Wait what are you trying to say the Dallas comm is posting about Paradiso claiming THEY themselves brought covid to the event is somehow them trying to blame someone ELSE? That doesn't even make sense?
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>>10774580
The person who made that post is from KC so it doesn’t make any sense why this would get pinned on Dallas
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>>10774587
So someone from KC got covid from Paradiso or the KC person had covid before Paradiso and just got symptoms after the event?

If it's the latter definitely not anyone else's fault but her own and if it's the former there is no proof it's anyone specific still.
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>>10774590
Someone from KC made the post calling the girl from another comm (Minnesota?) out for having symptoms and not informing anyone and continuing to attend events
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>>10774587
Literally only because there is a picture of them together at the event. I'm not even from Dallas but this vendetta shit is getting repetitive and annoying
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The post in question in the paradiso Facebook group warning others
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>>10774580
Toast is a mass shit stirrer
TikTok clout chasing and creating drama on threads for attention
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>>10774597
literally, she loves to post about "itas" despite only wearing the ita macaroon dress.

>>10774580
do u have reading comprehension issues?

>in a desperate attempt to throw someone under the bus

they're not saying *they* gave it out, they're saying it's all the fault of one girl who roomed with all of them who is apparently not "telling the general public." >>10774596


the exact contraction and most contagious period recommendations are not even close to full proof, it's different for every person. the obvious thing to do is to assume caution and test anyways before and after the event. The post says she had already immediately told everyone she was in close contact with, so why post about it to the entire paradiso page when multiple other ppl caught covid from paradiso?

also lol none of them were wearing masks, they took the risk.
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>>10774597
>>10774610
you guys are either smoking crack or thinking of the wrong person
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>>10774594

Kek of course it's the ratchet RV rennfaire it's who has covid

>>10774610
Essentially this. Strictly speaking, it's dumb they even released a name. We have strict covid testing protocols at work and they don't tell us which individual had covid, they just let us know it's in the general area and for us to be more cautious because that's literally all we need to know. If you're going to any big event without a mask the best thing to do these days is test after even if "no one" had covid. It sucks but that's the reality we live in.
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>>10774595
Literally this. Like I don't even care about any of them but the hate boner shit people have over randos is more annoying than that comm has ever been. I don't use TikTok and don't follow people who annoy me. It's really that easy nonnas. This constant bringing them up when it is unwarranted really reeks of vendetta.
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>>10774611
They definitely are wrong bc toast doesn't wear super pastel sweet prints from what I've seen.

More evidence this is all nonsense. People are making claims without even knowing who they're making them about.
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>>10774610
>do u have reading comprehension issues?
>>in a desperate attempt to throw someone under the bus
>they're not saying *they* gave it out, they're saying it's all the fault of one girl who roomed with all of them who is apparently not "telling the general public."

It was hard to tell what was going on because people brought up Dallas comm when they were not at all relevant to anything. Thank you to the anon who shared the actual post because that makes it way more clear what was going on.

Basically the Dallas comm is being finger pointed for no reason itt because people in another comm 20 states away had a roommate with rona. Or to shit stir. Idk.
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>>10774618
dallas comm was brought up because she roomed with members from the dallas comm. they're all in the same discord too, and are the members throwing said person under the bus

>>10774611
>>10774617
i might be, i thought anon was talking about the person who posted this >>10774596
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>>10774625
>dallas comm was brought up because she roomed with members from the dallas comm.
So some of the people from Dallas who were notified that they were exposed to someone not from Dallas who tested positive later on after the event, and this separate person from Minnesota or wherever made a FB post notifying all of Paradiso because the non-Dallas girl didn't notify others/all of Paradiso after she found out, only those who roomed with her?
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>>10774617
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>>10774611
Is pastel
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>>10774629
>>10774628

I've only ever seen her in navy and white and black before but these aren't the same as the pastel vomit dollhouse JSK. That's why I specified super sweet. Idk the right term. I also don't follow her online, only see reposts so idk how old these pics are or how often she wears what style.
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>>10774631
It’s recent dumbass
Take your wk somewhere else
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>>10774628
wait why was toast even mentioned by >>10774597 ??? is she in dallas? she's not the one who posted the covid call out. this threw everything off

>>10774628
this is very cute desu
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>>10774641
>she's not the one who posted the covid call out. this threw everything off

Shhh don't point that out or you'll get called a wk for not knowing everyone else's comm discord drama anon
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>>10774596
I don't understand people who go to large group events like this and cry they got COVID afterwards. The participants knew the risk was there, they still went for it. It only takes one person to infect everyone, and vaccination doesn't make you immune to COVID. People should've at least expected the con flu. Sorry for being a WK and thinking this drama is retarded I guess.
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>>10774580
Toast does cringe shit for clout but Double penetration princess thinks she’s an influencer and is a known shit stirrer. If there were awards DPP would be the worst lolita of the year. Stop lying to yourself that she isn’t the most disliked on this board.
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>>10774891
Howdy farmer, you may want to stop using that stupid fucking nickname on every post you make.
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>>10774870
The issue was that the person lied about their situation. They felt sick on sunday, didnt tell ppl until monday, didnt test until monday evening. So everyone at the tea party was exposed. She also did not tell the con it as it took a person who was exposed by her to post to let the general group know.

She should have tested herself as soon as she felt sick, and let the con know right away. Instead she dipped.
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>>10774957
wait wait so it was only until sunday that she started to feel off? desu i can see someone brushing it off as allergies at first. can't imagine many people would choose to miss the last events of a con that you spent hundreds of dollars on where covid exposure is surely going to happen (again, most people took a fucking plane and nobody masked) . If she told those who were in immediate contact with her, she doesn't need to tell the whole con.

i'd prefer to hear both sides of the story from the alleged sick lolita on whether or not she lied about her symptoms for awhile.

the person making the callout post didn't mask either (which she should've because jesus christ her chin acne)
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>>10774891
Take your meds, anon. No one else os that invested in some random fatty. How are people so new these days that they think being fat is peak lolcowdom?
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>>10774957
You covid tards always jump to the wrong conclusion. I can understand feeling off bc of the hot weather In KC but, half the people in the tea party room were not wearing masks from what my friend there witnessed. Like the caps posted on Lolc0w DPP squad was not wearing any masks at all but, wants to blame it all on some ita.
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>>10774971
nayrt but she's an ageplayer too. check the farms
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>>10774956
>>10774971
Like clockwork. The cleanup crew is here. Cry about it on discord while you suck every mods clit.
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>>10775022
Don’t forget she led a bullying campaign against momo. That girl is banned from her comm because of dpp. Her stans are delusional if they think being fat is her only crime
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>>10775101
>momo
Mahou-momo? She's cool with people in the Dallas comm from what I've seen. No one would ever even think to bully her. She's sweet and had a really shitty past because of something fucked up that happened to her.
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I went to paradiso, and honestly I think the callout post naming the person is pretty gross. Like it’s a con, we all accepted the risk, anyone could have had covid and not known, not everyone shows symptoms. To name her is fked up, they could have just said “someone” tested positive. I mean I didn’t interact with the person but anyone in my group could have had it too— it doesn’t need to be a witch hunt. I feel like the person who made the call out post is just being drama hungry
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>>10775104
Nice outting Dallas comm
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>>10775101
Momo isn’t banned retard.
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>>10775118
No one is outing anyone she's been posted on cgl before and has a very active IG. It's just ridiculous people are making up lies that she is banned or that anyone bullied her when she was in the AKon fashion show with Dallas people and shows up in a lot of pics posted by Dallas comm members on IG all the time.

When you have irrational vendetta against people for no reason it only makes others want to shut you up bc you're the annoying one here, so maybe just don't post wild accusations and fake shit about Dallas comm people and no one will have to waste energy telling you you're just factually wrong about certain things.

Literally no one cared about the Dallas comm aside from it being Tyler's comm until a few years ago and now everyone's foaming at the mouth over them for absolutely zero reason. Quit basedfacing every time they make a TikTok or attend an event.
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>>10775124
Damn S.O.Y facing gets changed to basedfacing now. I thought we only had to worry about the onions thing.
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>>10775105
yeah, whoever posted it looks like a classless trashbag. accidents happen. there's definitely been moments in my life where i thought "hmm i feel weird, probably just allergies" without considering that i needed to suddenly stop everything and quarantine (and i haven't even had covid yet). that's just the nature of a pandemic. we all assumed that a couple people in that hall might have covid whether they knew it or not. to publicly name, shame, and embarrass this person is just uncouth and unnecessary.
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>>10775124
this. i didn't know anything about Dallas, but I met them at an event once and they seem fine. All these bizarre schizo accusations like the ones in this thread and >>10775053 are convincing me there isn't even any milk beyond DPP doing things ages ago. it's extremely fucking annoying and i'm tired of hearing all this tinfoiling and "hi cow"ing without any actual milk and caps, either here or on the farms
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>>10775104
Uhmm yes she was bullied. The timing was fishy because whenever dpp was mentioned, psycho anons screeched that it was Momo vendetta posting. Archives exist for a reason.
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>>10775143
Was she just criticized on cgl or actually bullied? I don't think it's cool to shit tall anyone anonymously but talking about people on cgl even if it's negative isn't exactly bullying. If that was true then you could say Toast-chan or the entire Dallas comm is being bullied which isn't true (there is a crazy vendetta poster here but it's still not bullying).

And the claim Momo was banned from her comm is still a lie. Her comm includes her in stuff all the time. She's not banned.
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>>10775148
She *was* banned, but then the comm discovered that dpp was lying and they unbanned her.
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>>10775104
Wasn’t she abused or something?
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>>10775156
Bs. She was never banned anon
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>>10775157
is that why she puts on that fake high-pitched voice?
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>>10775173
I think her voice is cute but word went around that she was abused
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>>10775180
Don't bring up her abuse, that's such a low blow, please
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>>10775183
Anon mentioned it >>10775104
and She posted about it on her IG therefore it’s public information now retard.
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>>10775180
yeah her voice is "cute" because she's obviously making an extra effort to make it sound that way. it sounds so cringey. but she's nice, can't complain
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>>10775180
she pitches up her voice and photoshops her face/body like every other "kawaii" girl on IG
>>10775190
nice to your face, vendetta posts you on LC, just another cringe oldschool trenhopper
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>>10775201
She mostly wears typical sweet lolita wtf are you even talking about anon
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>>10775201
Here we fucking go again with this ‘momo having a vendetta’ shit. Every damn time.
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>>10774059
>>10774114
5’2, I own about 40 main pieces and the only ones that actually fit me the way they should are my brand mini skirts
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>>10775385
Ew. No one wants to see you in a miniskirt
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>>10775385
5’2 at 120 is medium sized kek
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>>10775385
Okay, then you're lying unless your dumb ass thinks shirred dresses count. I'm way smaller than you and my unshirred old-school is only just snug. How big is your waist?
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Class A examples of cope and seethe in here
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>>10775391
That's the whole point nonny, you don't have to be tiny to fit old school, as long as you're short you can be kinda chubby (120 lbs at 5'2 sounds lil chubby), and you can still fit it. Proof it's not for particularly thin people, just for short people as long as you aren't obese (and even some obese short people can fit stuff from pics I see on IG old school tags).

nayrt btw
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>>10775446
the person in responding to claims that they are swimming in AP and old school pieces at those measurements, so idk why you replied
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>>10775446
They said they're swimming in the dresses. I'm like 20 lbs smaller and the pieces perfectly fit me. So no, I don't believe they even know what they're talking about unless they think 2010 is old school
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>>10775446
>120 lbs at 5'2 sounds lil chubby
it's perfectly normal and average, you bone rattler
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>>10774114
I’m exactly 120 pounds, 5’2. got one of my dream dresses, 2016 ap release with no shirring, it hangs off me. There are visible gaps in it. I feel so ugly when I wear it. My best fitting pieces are from 2003-2004.
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>>10775519
Typo, 2012
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>>10775385
You and I are the same person!
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>>10775519
>I feel so ugly

thats because you are
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>>10775520
>2012 AP is old school
Honestly this is just pathetic
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>>10775385
I’m seven inches taller than you and the same weight. This fashion is made for womanlets like you so how do only the mini skirts fit properly?
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>>10775519
Just get it altered then. It’s much easier to take stuff in than let it out so it shouldn’t even cost much. I’m so tired of people whining about stuff being too big and refusing to do anything about it. They’re clothes, not sacred artifacts that need to be kept in original condition.
And before someone reeeeeees that it’s worth less money that way, then sell it and stfu.
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>>10775594
You misread, I prefer old school because my 2012 dress was too big, and old school runs smaller :)
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>>10775600
Depreciates the value
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>>10775767
If there as many uwu smol and swimming lolitas out there as these threads suggest, that shouldn't really be a problem. Dresses altered to be larger sell regularly.
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>>10776152
I'm tiny and swim in releases like mto honey cake and even 2009 sugary carnival but I brought one altered skirt
because it was $40 for ap. I plan to alter it back but too much effort for such a cheap peice. Point is not all of them sell bc fat sometimes we just want a bargain
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>>10775519
>>10775766
>>10776217
No one cares about your short and squat body. Talk about Paradiso or piss off.
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>>10773797
Lolita is not a fat girl fashion, even by Asian standards. Quit trying to make yourself feel better about being an obese clown.
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>>10774596
Nice, HIPAA violations and intentionally spreading illnesses.
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>>10776691
>Quit trying to make yourself feel better about being an obese clown.
I'm one of the "annoying" uwu smol people nonny, I just don't have a superiority complex about it like you giraffes that want to remove ribs to fit MM or VM or whatever like it's actually that hard.

It is indeed a fat girl fashion by Asian standards.
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>>10776698
look up what hipaa actually means
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>>10776698
Lollllll I love when people cite hipaa and have no idea what it protects or who must abide by it
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>>10774628
What's this bag? I love it.
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>>10776691
Tell the Japanese to stop referring to it as such first.
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So how actually was Paradiso? Anything worth talking about? You retards have clogged up this thread with some bullshit about your skirts. Start a new sad thread for your bs.
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>>10777225
People already talked about it upthread. It was just fun because people got to see each other. There were a couple gripes with the caterers of the tea but otherwise no issues. Fashion show was laughable but that's to be expected with the lineup. Everything else ran smoothly.
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>>10775767
jesus christ, you can alter clothing to be smaller without cutting jack shit. you can take it to a tailor and ask if the cut of the dress is possible to sew in a bit so that you can undo the stitches at some point.
most dresses you can even undo all of the fucking seams and resew it to fit you and later go back and ask them to sew it back to it’s original shape. and if you’re still too scared that it’ll go down value then sell the fucking thing or stuff your mouth with macaroons, get fatter and stfu.
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>>10777225
It was fun seeing the racist and sissy loving online mods hanging out with the messy Dallas girls. They truly are birds of a feather.
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>>10777256
Who???
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>>10777256
>Dallas girls
>They truly are birds of a feather
>racist

Like half the Dallas comm is black and Asian (obviously, it's Dallas) wtf do you even mean
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>>10777343
accusing random people of being racist is just an easy way to start drama
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>>10777343
Being black/asian doesn't absolve you of racism despite what you SJWs like to parrot.
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>>10777256
I’ve been trying to understand what this comment means
Because I can really only think of two specific people this could possibly refer to
Why does everyone even talk about Dallas I didn’t think there were a lot of Dallas people there???
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>>10777343
Ayrt, the racist ones weren’t mingling with the black girls. Obviously.
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>>10777376
Oh sorry please explain, what kind of racism did they do anon, the anti-white kind?
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>>10777452
There were literally like 4 people from dfw. Someone just has it out for the dallas comm
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>>10777373
The racist and the girl who lets sissies into lolita online groups were acting like bffs with Dallas members. They posted photos together. Where have you been?
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>>10777566
i don't follow comm drama, i'm not even american
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>>10777225
Big waste of money, basically nothing besides a tiny vendor hall and a shitty buffet with that shitty Bigelow lemon and pomegranate flavored tea.

Idk if I want to go to a fashion con again, I really wanted to see a top tier tea party and that was sadly lacking
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>>10777591
This thread doesn’t pertain to you wtf.
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>>10777630
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yeah honestly it was kind of underwhelming. as a newbie it was fun seeing friends and coords irl but it was just a very small vendor hall and not a lot of events. compared to a lot of anime cons it felt very bare-bones but that might have just been an unfair comparison in the first place

the issues with the caterer kind of put a wrench in everything else day 2
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>>10777645
i'm interested in lolita events. too bad this one was so boring.
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>>10777673
Did you even go? Fuck off back to where you came from. You’re not interested in comm drama >>10777591 yet here you are trying to stir shit up with your baseless claims about making fake drama >>10777373
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>>10777682
i honestly don't understand why you're so upset.
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>>10777685
You weren’t an attendee and you’re trying to imply one of the attendees isn’t a known racist. Fuck right off.
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>>10777630
They didn't even let you decide which tea to drink. You were just given a Bigelow teabag and had to trade to get what you wanted.
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>>10777630
Then go to RVR when it happens again. That was absolutely a top-notch tea
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>>10777732
Yeah I was really mad about the tea. The event cost so much, I know some people had rolled over tickets but I bought mine. I could've bought afternoon tea somewhere else in KC and had a nicer time by myself. Even the vendors were shitty besides Neant. I miss Mossbadger and IDD and indie brands that don't just resell garbage from taobao or make ugly Etsy tier dresses
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>>10777813
There were some other really nice indie brands, they just seemed to be a bit overlooked because they weren't selling tons of main pieces. Nemeth Wild had some great undergarments for lolita and Sweet Mildred come to mind.
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American scones.
Large, unappetizing bowls of lemon curd and some sort of cream.
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I love how nobody has talked about TF
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>>10777813
Mossbadger had stock there through lolita collective
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>>10777733
Not a soul wants to attend a SJW event. The host virtue signals to draw the woke crowd.
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>>10777968
Uh idk I had a good time and yeah the Tea was good.

The paradiso scones were the biggest letdown because like anon said, they were American style. When are we going to get a lolita tea with good TEA??
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>>10777925
If we complain, people will argue, if we compliment, people will argue. I’m glad they came and I bought some things. Will probably pre-order their Pullip collab doll too.
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>>10777989
Congrats for outing yourself as an ita or wokester because those are the only people who attended.
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>>10777968
Im not even an SJW and ai was annoyed with that but I still went and had a good time. That tea was legitimately the best. All lolita cons are SJW shit anyway
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>>10777968
Some people don't care enough about drama to pay attention to whether or not the event they're attending is woke or not anon. I went with my friends cause we live close and we wanted to go to a lolita event, it was fun, get the stick out if your ass.
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>>10778207
Ugly ita detected
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>>10777968
Then stay away terf. No one wants to see your greasy face.
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Why the hell is puvithel so crusty though? Literally turning up everywhere looking like a blind hobo. Def the most uncoordinated “designer” out there. Girl needs some soap and some lotion



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