Discuss:>New Meta releases>Meta truly the fat brand now>Even reach the lvl of AP blood bath?
I want to like meta more but they somehow just always miss the mark for me on some detail. Like I'll like the print but they don't have a color way I would wear, or the details are too fancy for what I would want as a more casual dress.
I normally love Meta but the last year and a bit of print (re)releases haven't been doing much for me and I'm sick of that polyester crepe they like to use. Strawberry Harvest looks like it should be a cute daily dress, but I'm not convinced about the print scale.
>>10752087Strawberry Harvest is cotton.
>>10752087I swear the same anon every time complains about the scale of Meta's prints as every brand doesn't produce a ton of different prints at varying scales regularly and it's dependent on the design.
>>10752022>Meta truly the fat brand nowTo my shock I think Meta is actually the based skinny brand. I got my first 2021 Meta dress and the shirring actually has to stretch a tiny bit and the bodice is nice and snug on my body.Comparatively, all of my AP dresses with shirring, the shirring doesn't hug me and literally droops down on my back, it's so large.
I just got the Stella OP rerelease, I was kicking myself for missing it the first time so I won't let that happen again lol. The choker and ruffled details around the back lacing are too cute. I think Meta is one of those brands whose stock photos don't do it justice, like MAM or Marble; I was very iffy on the flocked shantung JSK they recently released based on pics but after seeing it in person I fell in love, it's gorgeous.>>10752150Honestly agree, their back shirring is really comfy and well done. Not a fan of full back shirring aesthetically but it does make for a better fit for everyone
>>10752022I honestly adore this dress but I'm not a sweet so I would have such a hard time buying stuff for it, but it looks so fuckin cute. I actually prefer prints smaller so this is right up my alley. Fuck.
>>10752191I agree, even looking at their insta the pics are so much better.
>>10752150Meta is maximum comfy and maximum flexible. I've had weight changes up and down and Meta has never not fit me through it all. The only thing that would propel them even further into excellence would be pockets. Meta is also really affordable second hand. I've found skirts and JSKs for 4k, 5k, 7k yen easily. Sometimes, it's their less desirable prints but a lot of the time it's really cute stuff. I got an ivory skirt with roses and ribbons on it for 3500 yen.
i love metaI like to support them by buying their new releases but really wish more of their stuff were cotton.
>>10752255At least strawberries are pretty popular among accessories, so you'll have an easier time buying for it.
>>10755079Their last few releases have been cotton! I was surprised to see that their new strawberry dress aren't poly!
I wish Meta would do a line with pieces inspired by their old school designs, similar to Baby's classical series. Nobody did the frumpy doll look better than them, I'd let them have all my money.
>>10755079same, but if you do like a dress, make sure you double check the fabric composition, they've been doing cotton! I was gonna get the special set in the winter but it wasn't cotton. Dim Light re-release, the violet dress, and now the strawberry dress are all cotton though. I think there may have been some others as well.
>>10755104But Meta releases oldschool-looking stuff all the time, no?
>>10755221Ehh, I guess it has some similarities with their older designs, but I wouldn't call this old school. I meant more so actual rereleases of some of their iconic items, in the same way Baby releases theirs, like the babydoll organdy OP or something equally popular.
>>10755240>I wouldn't call this old schoolyour opinion is wrong.
>>10755241I mean, it's definitely not old school, but you can go ahead and wear it however you want
>>10755240but they do rerelease old designs?
>>10755240I agree with you, meta always misses the mark on producing true old school. They seemingly can't help adding modern details. I wish they'd do more true old school like Baby.
>>10755275This is a good example of them fucking up a rerelease with details. The new gardening teddies has different cuts and they added pearl buttons which I don't think really makes sense for this print. Meta for some reason loves adding those gold and pearl buttons to everything and I fucking hate it. That might just be me though>>10755221This one is ruined by the ribbons, otherwise it would be very nice
>>10755221Grandma couch vibes. I need it
>>10755308The only mistake they made was not rereleasing the pink colorway.
New release just announcedI gotta see how it is in pink, otherwise I'm getting that Black colorway
>>10756271I hope they release pics of the pink soon!
>>10756271Does anyone have any pics of this dress being worn? I’m curious to see how it looks like
>>10756409And here is a video for some ita for the the folks buying the plus size version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggHDt158CqkI stg, I never see people wear Meta's newer stuff even tho I know people are buying it
>>10756271God the black is so pretty
>>10752022Too bad they won't add pockets to their shit. It's a small thing, but it's one of the things that keeps me going back to AP.
>>10756435Why do they censor their models' faces? It makes me so uncomfortable, they're people not mannequins ffs
>>10756614Because they're shop staff, not professional models. It's for their privacy.
>>10756632They wouldn't do that back in the day though, and their shop staff modeled their new releases just like they do now
>>10756271I'm in love with the pink/heart colour way, don't know if I should get this or the ap princess in love mto
>>10756679i love it
>>10756679I love the back of the bonnet/veil, the heart tulle is so lovely.
>>10756679>don't know if I should get this or the ap princess in love mtoThis will arrive sooner and it has a tallita option. Plus Meta has had impeccable quality compared to a lot of AP lately.
>>10752022In all honesty I don't think Meta will ever be as good as AP. Meta is just hyped up because of their plus size range and lack of bloodbaths, making the buying process more stress free.
>>10756691as good as old ap or current ap?
>>10756691Quality wise I'd say Meta has always been the same if not better than AP. But style wise I usually prefer BABY and (old) AP for prints. You could say BABY is hyped too because of no blood baths. Just because Chinese girls and scalpers aren't buying everything like with AP doesn't mean that the brand is somehow worse and overhyped. It just means they're better at managing demand. Both of their shops also offer international shipping directly rather than having to deal with SS.
>>10756692Definitely old AP but sometimes even newer AP is slightly more likeable, it depends.>>10756701Nah Baby is maybe 8/10 times good
>>10756717>sometimes even newer AP is slightly more likeableNow you're just saying anything
>>10756271Unironically considering getting the white colorway for my wedding dress, this is absolutely gorgeous
>>10756855That was my first thought too anon, buying it and saving it for when I get married.My partner already knows I'm planning to wear lolita to my wedding.
>>10756644Yes, but social media wasn't what it is now. You seem awfully pressed about this when it's very, very common for Japanese lolitas to cover their faces in photos.
>>10752191Congrats. I got sucked into it too and the cut is so flattering.>>10756679I have lots of Meta but never one of their over the top lacey pieces, but this is gorgeous. At least when Meta goes pink they aren't afraid of committing to the whole thing.
A questionnaire has been posted to Rufflechat asking people to contribute pieces they'd like to see Meta re-release. The feedback is going to be sent to Meta. Worth checking out if you have ideas.
>>10756679This is stunning
>>10756999Please report back what the results turn out to be. I don't have RC.
>>10757045Same. I wish I could submit my feedback. I just want them to make genuine old school pieces without updated details. I bet everyone asks for prints and nurse op though.
>>10757039>>10757045the link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdD97vTRqhkIHxYMzb0tNX9F2AIgWLHf8vMPT_S8nn5n8Fj4w/viewform?usp=send_form
>>10757058Sorry, meant to tag >>10757048
>>10757048Same, but I don't have high hopes. I remember when MM and JetJ did surveys, it were always St. Claire OP and that stupid cat dress which were the most popular designs at that time which would win, even though those would pop up second hand pretty regularly at that time. Plebs don't have the capacity to vote strategicaly so we can have a rare and sought after gem re-released. They just don't have the impulse control to wait 2 months for their DD to pop up, they want it now.
>>10757087It isn't a vote it's just a survey that will be turned into an unsolicited petition to Meta. If you aren't going to submit your thoughts when someone has provided a link for you to fill out without needing to use Rufflechat then of course the results won't have your input.
>>10757092I am really excited to see the petition! If nothing happens because of it, that's totally fine and understandable but if it causes oldschool or golden age sweet prints, or oldschool solids in better cuts than the new ones, to be rereleased then I'll be extremely pumped
>>10757058Nice, submitted mine
>>10756679My god, that's pretty
Which old school ones are you guys submitting? I'd rather submit the same as others to improve the chances rather than just submitting an obscure one only I want.
>>10757257Bouquet print, revival bouquet, organdy babydoll
>>10757257also submitted revival bouquet
>>10756973>You seem awfully pressed about thisI'm not, I simply expressed how I prefer one over the other. I didn't know it's the norm in Japan now
>>10756855That's what I did with the white Elizabeth OP, you should go for it!
>>10757257Same, I was really tempted to submit my two dream dresses, but it's so unlikely that other people would include them that I'd rather not even try
>>10757257I'm submitting thorn print, my DD and the bear backpack (if you can mention him in your form, I'll be eternally grateful). I think most people will ask for bouquet print, hospitality doll and organdy babydoll, so I've included the last two as well. As much as I love bouquet print (especially the very first late 90s iteration of it in those weird colorways), I have a feeling they could botch it by including very modern details, so I omitted it in my form.
>>10757307Then it'll never happen if you don't ask for it. Sounds like you just want to complain without actually trying to contribute.
>>10757334>Then it'll never happenI know, that's why I don't see the point in asking. Nobody but me even wants them, and I already submitted the form to help others get their more popular dream dresses. >GAYDJ
>>10757312I specified that I want bouquet print flare sleeved OP. A few have been posting this as their DD
>>10757335If you and others didn't have a weird defeatist attitude it could happen. This isn't an official Meta survey and isn't based on popularity per se, they may see one request for a dress the designers are also fond of and rerelease that one before requests for others.
>>10757058Huh. I would kill for a Bubble Bath rerelease even in an ugly cut, why not try I guess
>>10758244I also requested Bubble Bath!
>>10756999i'd fucking kill for a Die Walkure re-release but we all know that will never ever happen
>>10757257Is Meta going to re-release any older prints? Not just old school items
Who else is excited to getting this rerelease soon?
wow I posted the old one, excuse my dumbassery.
>>10758245Yay, good taste anon!
The pink version of Hidden Princess sold out before my paycheck came OTL.
>>10758245Also requested Bubble Bath! If anyone cares to throw in The March of Duck for me it would be super appreciated.
>>10758717Looks like I'm the 4th bubble bath requester here lol, I had no idea anyone else cared for that print. I put march of ducks in mine too
>>10756999Please hospitality doll.
>>10756271They're super gorgeous. I'm torn between navy or black, personally; white's nice, but I don't want to build a shiro wardrobe on accident.
>>10758766That's not gonna happen
>>10758766I asked for it too, but like >>10758840 said, it probably won't happen. Doesn't hurt to try though I guess. Maybe they'll at least take it as a sign that people want more nurse stuff.
>>10758246Good, its cringe as hell
>>10758246I asked for D Walkure, Hospitality Doll, and Engelsbeginn. We can only hope.
>>10758828Not keen on the pink?
>>10755476I would have bought this in a heartbeat in any of the original colorways, but all of the new ones look bad.
>>10759139i asked for HD too but please dont make a plus size version ; a ;
>>10759281Why does it matter if they always have a regar size too?
>>10759281I hope they make both plus and double-plus and make it only available for overseas orders
>>10759281I thought the only reason you guys were asking for this stuff was so it could be made in fat sizes? If you want bragging rights just fit in to the original in the first place.
>>10759509Original dresses are getting worn out and they're too short. I want a revamp of a lot of old dresses in the same old cuts but a few cm longer
>>10759281I hope they make it in Plus sizes and not regular sizes to spite you specifically
>>10759514>I want a revamp of a lot of old dresses in the same old cuts but a few cm longerThe plus sizes are longer and still fit smaller people who happen to be tall just fine. You literally DO want plus sizes because you can't fit the original.
>>10759523This is bullshit, AYRT and I bought a meta plus size dress and the cut was garbage, it hung off me and looked huge. I want the same size but 92-94ish cm length, not 110. Oldschool Meta stuff is often 85
>>10759532Taller/longer is still plus size. Sorry you're a man's height and not made to fit lolita.
>>10759552Womanlets don't exist, being petite is a desirable female trait. Giantess seethe.
>>10759552Seethe harder. Taller often means proportionally larger overall so you're likely bigger or have huge ribs and thighs that make you look like a stuffed sausage in old school meta.
>>10759535160 cm tall is man size? No one wants to see your ass or bloomers when you wear lolita, sweetie. Oldschool is just too short unless you're 150 or less
>>10759557It’s perfectly possible to look cute in oldschool above 150cm, anon…
>>10759514I like how short some of the older dresses look on some people, but sometimes it’s way short.
>>10759557I don't know what dresses you're buying, but I'm 168cm and always look fine in old school meta. I haven't had a meta dress/skirt be shorter than mid-thigh on me, ever, and in fact some of the longest, most well-fitting old school items I own are by them.
>>10759557>>10759585Can back this up. I’m 173cm, 85/66 and all my oldschool Meta looks fine on me, it doesn’t even hit mid thigh half of the time. As long as you’re not massive you should be fine.The real anti tall brand is Cornet.
you guys get riled up too easily
>>10759557>Oldschool is just too shortNah anon you're just too tall for the clothes or don't know how to dress.Go buy an IW long cut if you want tallita fashion.
>>10759593I just felt like I needed to call out the hypocrisy of tall giant ogre bitches asking for plus sizes and then complaining about plus sizes in the same breath. The thin air all the way up there must be affecting their brain function.I fit the old stuff fine but don't give two shits if Meta releases it in new sizes because they always do the original too, so I'm not being hurt by it, and it keeps the brand in business/helps their profit. Plus I tailor my stuff smaller if it's too big like some modern AP. Never had to do it with Meta or BABY though.
>>10759555What a fucking cope lmao being tall and thin are literally the two most desirable traits.
>>10760181>being tall and thin are literally the two most desirable traits.In lolita being tall is a curse.
>>10760211>some creepy fetishistMen want petite thin women because they want to date children.
>>10760221Only weebs. Also you can be petite and thin and curvy too. It's a fat giantess cope that being a healthy size and short makes you pedo bait.
>>10760229>Only weebsHave you ever visited literally any porn website? All men want to fuck women who look like teens at best, it's not just weebs
>>10760253Looking young/childlike and simply being short and not fat are 2 different things tho nanny.The fat you equate the two is not my problem but you'd think Japanese fashion enthusiasts would be aware that adult women who are height weight proportionate and below 5'5" exist.
>>10760259I realize they're different and don't equate the two, I'm nayrt. Just stating the fact that it's the norm for men to fetishize said petite women, especially with less curvy, womanly bodies and young faces for that reason.
yes i love debating about what type of women men find attractive in the meta thread
Never in my life have I ever been interested in putting an animal print on my body; why does this jsk call out to me???
>>10760253Go back, pornsick scrote.
>>10760343I'm an adult woman who has visited a porn site before and is aware of what pornsick scrotes (aka most men) find attractive, lol
>>10760323This one's ugly, don't do it.
>>10752022God I can't wait for this to arrive.
>>10760230men prefer short women because they're pedos and women prefer tall men because they like to feel safe/protected. not exactly the same reason
>>10760384i actually like short men, what now?
>>10760396same here, tall men tend to have freakish proportions imo
>>10760425>cope harder!!!!>projects even moreKek stay mad. If womanlets are so feminine, they’d be in the media and fashion shows regularly. You’re just a seething dwarf.
>>10760425>>10760431take this somewhere else
>>10760323Physical drop (aka the old meta designer) would do it better, please just wait for them to do another animal print dress.
>>10760396>>10760419short kings rise up
>>10760396>>10760419Short guys are the best cause they are cute. They also don't do that annoying thing tall guys do where they lean on your head.
>>10761475No, but a lot of them get pissy when you wear heels
>>10761504>>10761475The only thing wrong with short guys is when they have a complex about it
>>10761504not mine, he loves em. he also doesn't have a complex about it, probably because he's skinny and attractive.
>>10760436Anyone consuming media or going to fashion shows is a gay man? Lmao you and I are gay dudes then.
>>10761581If you insist, anon.
>>10761627>>10760436 insists it is so
Talk about Meta or GTFO. No one gives a fuck about your stupid short vs. tall men debate. They all suck anyway.Anybody jump on the additional production of Hidden Princess in My Memory in pink? Bought both the dress and bonnet and I can’t wait to be a disgustingly pink weirdo.
>>10761665I'm just waiting to see if the strawberry preorder is going to actually ship May-June as promised. Haven't seen any updates, just Meta reposting that preorders are open which suggests June if they haven't even begun production yet.
>>10761504>>10761505I can see that happening. Fortunately mine sounds a lot like >>10761508
>>10761665I jumped on the additional production. I was wavering because it's empire waist and I look terrible in those (big rib cages) but I have always wanted to live my princess dreams and this style and bonnet is 100% on point.I figure if I don't like the empire waist, I can always get a pink corset or sash and cinch the middle section a little more since the big bow is removable!
>>10761665I want to, but family emergencies so no princess time for me. I was able to get the strawberry dress after missing out on the 1st one so at least that's something.I really need to get some lolita formal wear
Dreamy Little Farm coming May 27>jp: >twitter. com/metamorofficial/status/1529023817259294720?t=7raed77TSMlfzG1Al3ZH1A&s=19>en:>twitter. com/MetamorphoseEng/status/1529027029676740608?t=5LsuxIo3TJEBsNzQbV32bw&s=19
>>10765919>COMING SOON>Dreamy Little Farm>t. co/XmbnAm83zD>Pre-order starts around 5 pm on May 27th (JST) online.Products- OP- JSK- Frill Ribbon Mini Apron- Headdress With Babushka- Maid Cap- Goat Ear Clips>ETA: July - August 2022>#metamorphose #mtdf #Lolitafashion >t. co/4WT2DDpRQI
>>10765921OP comes in blue, green, & lavender Sizes: Normal-size & plus-size
>>10765924JSK comes in blue, green, & lavender Sizes: Normal-size & plus-sizeI think I like the blue colorway best but green is growing on me. I can see lavender being used for a lot of Easter coords/meet-ups
>>10765925Apron, maid cap, & ears are pictured here with the OP
>>10765926The headdress has a detachable "Babushka"-style scarf.
>>10765928Tbh I love when brands get creative with headpieces and this looks really cute. I'm done with the mini-dump now.
>>10765919I don't really need 2 meta bonnets with animal ears on, but it's so cute...
>>10765919what the fuck, this is so cute.I wish Meta would make skirts again with every print, I have too many jsks and would have been all over this in skirt form (the violet dress, too)
>>10765919The colors looks garish in the stock pics but OK in the worn pics
>>10765919I wish Meta made more jewelry/accessories to match their prints. I would love some cute sheep/goat jewelry and/or a bag or something.
The lavender and yellow colorway is darling. I can't get over the goat putting the flower crown on the other goat in the print, either.
>>10766122yeeeeessssI love all the colorways so much?? I'd probably go for lavender but they're literally all gorgeous
Looks like an ita magnet. Get ready for all the plus-plus-size "country lolita" coords.
>>10765937Agreed, I'd love this to be a skirt.
>>10756271>>10756435Well shit. Black is sold out now. Should I jump onto the navy one instead?
Medicine of Love pre-order June 10jp>twitter. com/metamorofficial/status/1534099224962699264?t=hmCh_s9pw9mQB6V_iudt2A&s=19en>twitter. com/MetamorphoseEng/status/1534101398174191617?t=lP3hheyn1rpqdUXI5g-x5A&s=19
>>10770995>COMING SOON>Medicine of Love Series>Pre-order starts around noon on June 10th (JST) online.>Products- JSK- Ribbon Clip- Line Cap Style Headband- Line Cuffs- Printed Over the Knee Socks>ETA: Sept -Oct 2022
>>10770997Regular & Plus sizeColorways are Pink, Mint Blue, & Grey
>>10770999This print isn't a must-have for me, but I love the details: the off-center line, the hat and cuffs, etc. I can definitely see the appeal of it for all sorts of coords
>>10771001desu i feel like meta has had a very strong yearalso i love that the colorways are a little different than what we've seen from them this year
The new preorders are cute but I'm still waiting on one that is supposed to arrive in May-June.
>>10771010my sailor jsk arrived yesterday so good luck to you!
>>10771089I think the sailor one released after the one I ordered so fingers crossed I get some shipping confirmation soon. This is the first time I've ordered a preorder directly through Meta, only ever done in stock items in the past.
>>10770997I’m blind what is the black/dark stuff on the print? Is it a cat?
>>10771096looks like a cat with bat/demon wings, maybe? there's also a rabbit with angel wings.
>>10771135that cat absolutely ruins it for me
>>10771001I also love the design but the print is just kinda meh for me. Not into medical themes.
>>10771094I ordered direct from their stock page and it arrived within a week.
>>10771096posting some product images with a slightly closer print view
>>10771170>>10771096idk why but the rabbit looks weird and the cat looks fine to me
>>10771677I kinda want them both as creepy plushies.
>>10771677I feel the opposite. I love rabbits with proper egg shaped heads and close together upright ears. It's a petpeeve of mine when their ears are so widely spaced and they've got dumb sideways oval faces. Totally ruins the natural appeal of irl bunnies. They're the aesthetic equivalent of artificial banana flavoring.
Don't need any Halloween releases from the other brands, it's already taken care of.
>>10774688>she doesn't know what lops are >she doesn't know artificial banana flavor is based on an extinct varietal of bananas that existed in the americas>she also doesn't know that you can get bananas that taste almost the same in southeast asiakek
>>10782558Nta but damn if that's what real bananas tasted like I'm glad those bitches went extinct.
>>10782558doesn't the banana still exist, but it's killed by a fungus that exists almost everywhere so it's very exclusive and can only be grown in a few places
>>10789879possibly. it's not fake banana like anons think though.
>>10755308>>10755221I’m actually in love with this print in the Mary JSK, the ladder lace with heart details that replaced all the bows really sealed the deal for me
>>10760221>>10760229>>10760253>>10760263>>10760347>caring about what scrotes find attractive>in lolita>a fashion crafted to appeal to women tastes, and give the middle finger to what scrotes find attractiveTo get back on topic, I wish meta would release again nun inspired solids like these
I want to like meta but their shit fits weird on me and also is too big. It has weird pockets of air, makes me looks fat and the fabric feels plastic. Old meta supremacy
Can someone explain to me who Ruru chan is? Is meta making cosplay now? I'm so confused.
>>10792013>Is meta making cosplay now? I don't know the character but it's not unheard of for brands to do collabs like this. IW has a ton of Rozen Maiden dresses, for example
>>10792013She's the lolita character from this episode of Artiswitchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOx_JdmhAyE
>>10792013How new are you that anime collabs are confusing? A lot of brands have done them.
>>10792013Holy fuck I need those shoes, anyone know if they'll be available for sale? I wish they were taller like back in the day, but that color alone is enough to make me buy them
>>10792091>anyone know if they'll be available for sale?they won't
>>10792038Very cool, thanks for sharing.
>>10792015the actual dress looks so much worse than this...
>>10792038cool but i have no idea what the fuck is happening
>>10792013the collar is completely wrong
>>10792155that's because it's not a direct cosplay. these are designed as wearable items directly inspired by the character's outfits. several brands have made these before.
>>10792156the character's outfit is completely wearable. that neckline already exists on lolita dresses. they most of the ruffles from the bottom as well
>>10792158sure, if you want to be ita. the point is these have never ever been 1:1 cosplays. the brand always puts their own spin on it.
>>10792163None of that is ita, retard. They are design elements. The new design looks awful
>>10792163>sure, if you want to be itayou are saying that like if meta didn't that even more ugly bows to the dress, which is a common thing itas do
>>10792114Why, Meta, why...
>>10792013>>10792015anime dresses are always ugly irl even when a brand makes it, huh
>>10792013I wish they made the bows smaller (they're clearly supposed to be an exaggeration, that's how animation works) and made the front of the bodice lace up or plain instead of adding on even more bows. I'm glad they reduced the number of tiers at least. I really really wish they kept the square neckline. I get that it was pretty low cut in the show, but again, that's animation exaggeration. Instead of a modesty panel I they could have just raised the square neckline.
>>10791740It's too high waisted. I'm tired of these shit cuts. Haven't bought anything from Meta in a year or two, hated the last few dresses I got. They are truly a fat brand now, even the quarter shirring is too big
>>10792296isn't higher waist poor fit on fats?how much lower do you want the waist?
>>10792344[NATYRT] Depending on fat distribution some girls build up more in their lower abdomen and less at their ribcage/underbust. Think how maternity dresses look. These girls have a waist measurement that's higher than their underbust. I want dresses at the narrowest part of my torso, natural waist, which is right underneath my ribcage.
>>10792430Some fun related bullshit I found the other day is the kibbe system - as a "romantic" type ie dressing for my hourglass figure, if I don't have clothes that hit at the thinnest part of my waist I end up looking larger. So I look for bustle corset jsks and similar silhouettes to highlight that.
>>10792450>In 1987, David Kibbe, an image professional based in New York City, published a book called Metamorphosis, A Personal Image And Style Book For Women. In this book, Kibbe introduced a style type theory known today as the Kibbe archetype system.Funny coincidence that this came up in the Metamorphose thread lol
>>10792461>man tells women how to dressyawn
>>10792461kibbe system is bullshit anyways, the guy who made it isn't even consistent with his criteria when you pay him to "assign" you a type. Not that there's anything wrong with finding what flatters your body type but he's making lots of $$ off of insecure women
>>10792450the most bullshit part of that system is that the body types are limited to specific heights. like if you're hourglass and feminine you have to be 5'2" or something. Tall women can't be soft and hourglass. Only manface and knobby. Wtf.
>>10792461I think a pet peeve I have is with "dress for your body type" advice is that they make assumptions of what you want to look like, and often aren't even explicit about the goal.V-shape: often focuses on visually reducing shoulders, but what if she wants to look imposing?Straight: often focuses on exaggerating bust/hips, but what if she wants to look lithe?Hourglass: often focuses on featuring waist ratio, but what if she wants to look desexed?The body type I got with this test was going on about how I should be corp-butch. Like sure, I know I could pull it off, but that's featuring parts of me that I DON'T like.
>>10792576i think the most annoying thing about hourglass dressing advice is that often it includes drawing attention to your breasts which i'm uncomfortable with. oh well
>>10792729Anything that cinches the waist is going to make the assets stand out in comparison. I stay away from v-necks entirely or I'll have a front buttcrack.
>>10792461I got the only cute option, fuck yeah>Breaking news: Random male announces that no one is allowed to be cute except for me
>>10792729>>10792576Normie fashion advice is always just telling hourglass women to try not to look fat and telling non hourglass women to try to emulate what a non-fat hourglass looks like. It's never about style or looking good it's about wearing as much black or neutrals as possible and and pretending to be the shape men stereotypically want. So useless for anyone into alt fashion.
>>10792264Honestly it was ugly before they made it into an irl dress