Old thread hit image limit >>10580575This thread is for ouji and aristocrat (aka "boystyle") discussion. "Boystyle" is shorthand for "boystyle lolita" and refers to the masculine counterparts of Japanese lolita and, often, aristocrat fashions. There is a lot of overlap between these styles, and different people use different terms to describe them. We usually just use "ouji" here.>Shopping spreadsheetThis is broken, now. Can it be fixed?https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j7sg2_7CvXUeIgZGGSLvJ9lUUuSVXhW8FlWWFwiv1Yk/edit?usp=docslist_api>Buttcape-sensei's shopping guide (mentions which brands/shops have men's or custom sizes):https://stephano.me/blog/where-to-buy-ouji-fashion/>Blogs for infobuttcape[.]blogspot[.]comhttps://ouji-armoire.tumblr.com/tagsGoogle your questions before asking them here.Read the whole thread before asking questions here.OC and selfposts encouraged! Random picspam discouraged.Discussion: Every new /ouG/ has fewer links. What do new oujis use to learn about the fashion these days?
new AatP releases
>>10715395it's a good design but the epaulet looks kind of ...flimsy? It doesn't seem very secure.
>>10715511hopefully, it can be ironed down or pinned
ZJ Story, Kindred
>>10716296looks hella cheap>>10716300flares are coming back, gulls
do you wear brand coats in wintertime?
>>10717991mini outerwear dump
>>10718007end mini dump
obligatory first time dumping photos so if i fuck up, well, i tried :^)I've noticed that while ouji has never been as popular as lolita, the style still has trends. Punk style has sort of died out, but regal and military style still seems popular, especially with taobao brands pumping out companion ouji outfits for lolitas.Ignoring wtf AATP is doing so far, what is your favorite substyle of ouji? Were you inspired by visual kei and jrock? Do you like the cutesy and comfy schoolboy look? Or do you like the all decked out royal themes?
>>10718122Do ouji now still wear mad hatter themes? Do you guys like it or do you find it too old/boring?
>>10718127pants or pumpkin shorts? pants are easier to get off brand and you can find sarouel pants in a lot of jfashion stores, but pumpkin shorts including pumpkin salopettes are the classic ouji image a lot of people know.
>>10718130hat or no hat?
>>10718138end mini dump with photo of kira-ouji.
I've been looking for years, but does anyone have the picture of the waistcoat made from a JSK? I'm thinking about getting some dresses tailored but I want more inspo first.
>>10718140which one? there are a few.i will post some examples, including this one which was made from a skirt
>>10718163i think this was a JSK
>>10718168chess chocolate for him>>10718169chess chocolate for her>>10718171chess chocolate for ants
>>10718174i think this is also from a JSK.don't forget to add your modded Chess Chocolate to #diyouji tag when you do it, gull
>>10718171What's his @?>>10718140That guy >>10718166 makes a vest from a JSK. There are like 3 or 4 vests he has dobe
>>10718383he's ugly as fuck. keebler elf looking ass.
>>10718383>What's his @?the pic is so ancient, i do not recall where it came from
>>10718171>>10718383>>10718498could it be fairytaleprince? fat guy who wears ouji and has handmade stuff
>>10718866fairytaleprince is a bio woman
>>10718866>>10718868the state of you hoes
>>10718868Keep your tranny sperg out of the thread, no one fucking cares. This is a substyle about dressing like a male and wearing ridiculous mini hats. No one cares if you “misgender” anyone here, troon or not. Go shit up your own general.
>>10718903I am just asking who the guy's >>10718171 @ is.
chill vibes only here in /ouG/, friends.>>10718908i found the likely image source by googling "chess chocolate ouji": https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/821555156993801830/which led to: https://xxblakmangxx.tumblr.com/post/85365688281/chocolate
>>10718935not only does this dude call the coord "sweet kodona", he made it and pic related (for @zabdielrawr) from Oo Jia fabric. most embarrassing behavior
>>10718935>>10718936Thank you so much, anon!
>>10718936>Oo Jia fabricbetter r worse than cutting up a real one?
>>10720023Probably using original-print fabric would be the best play, neither destroying brand nor supporting replica makers.
>>10720023he looks like shit either way.
>>10718936This looks worse than your average teen boy's prom suit. Why even wear it
>>10720023worse.buy and alter clothes, not replicas. even 2nd hand supports the original brand. if you fear "ruining" brand, look for stained or broken brand to buy
>>10720168but people say that altering is far worse than anything you can ever do with brand
>>10720171nahmost brand would look better if altered, bc it was made for a limited range of sizes and it is not likely to flatter your body as-is.
>>10720168>stained or broken brandthat's a good idea. I probably won't make one for myself but i hope others do
>>10715397Okay have they started selling it yet?
Psycho le Cemu helping Mana-sama model some upcoming Moitiethe men's items will be on sale February/March
>>10722956the cloak is detachable and the belt comes with the pants
Stupid question, but how would I be able to get ouji that actually fits men? I've never really bought any before. I see that >>10722959 is an option but is there any other shop that puts out menswear as well? How often does Moitie release menswear and what's the sizing like? I'm trying to buy a coord for my boyfriend, just for the odd special occasion, and would appreciate hearing about anyone's experience doing the same.
>>10723021step 1: read the OP
>>10723021>>10724180this is the most common question asked in /ouG/ which is why the OP specifically states that Buttcape's shopping guide mentions which sellers have larger (mens or custom) sizing.if your dude is not the size of a slender Japanese man he will probably have trouble. that is unfortunately how it be for ouji
>>10724183>if your dude is not the size of a slender Japanese man he will probably have trouble. that is unfortunately how it be for oujiThis was my worry. He's not overweight but he is a size large and is taller than Japanese men.Thanks for the reply and sorry for the retardation of not reading the OP.
>>10724183>>10724190>tfw my bf is the size of a standard japanese man
>>10724200put a jabot on him and get him a well-styled wig
cool new spider web design from AatP
>>10725386Wtf is this giant baby onesie.
>>10725388the designers hate ouji now
>>10716300Does anyone please have a link to this? Sorry to ask for spoonfeeding but I've been searching for ages and can't find it anywhere, and the only zjstory store I've managed to find only lists one dress. Did I just miss it and it's gone already?
>>10727010it looks like the preorder was on 2016sorry, gull
>>10727518Noooooooooo! That shirt and coat are both instant grail items T.T but, thank you very much kind anon for putting me out of my misery, and putting an end to my frantic trawling for it lol
>>10727518>>10727564They released a blouse named 'Kindred' in 2016 but it looks like a different item. Looks like the one anon wants released recently if you look at thei weibo (https://weibo.com/p/1005055650275998/home?tabtype=home).I looked at their taobao and it does look empty, they may have just closed it for Chinese New Year ? I'm not that familiar with taobao but try checking again in a week.
Cullt has some oujiable stuff in a small range of sizesthe pants of this suit would not work, but the blazer might: https://item.rakuten.co.jp/cullt/21aw-5001/
>>10727972another example is Wonderland Jacket: https://item.rakuten.co.jp/cullt/21aw-5001/
>>10727973worn here by ouji @chantiru_am
>>10727010>>10727010I gotchu senpai, rereleased quite recently and there are preorders available:>https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=667601186986I ordered the prince blouse, corsage, and trench coat - shopping service said the item will deliver in a few months. Hope that helps!
>>10727994awesome, thanks friend
>>10727599>>10727994Oh my god thank you so much! I'm looking through at the coat and it looks so shiny in some of the photos, so I'm not sure about it bit I'm buying all the colours of the prince blouse definitely
which one of you is that ugly brazilian guy from the F.F. thread?
>>10729379Aaaagh fuck my ss just didn't fucking buy it and now the entire series is gone from the shop, after all that I did actually miss it because of their fuckup!? Is there anything I can do
>>10731502i do not think so. what a letdown!
who got the awesome jacket?
Novala in butler kei with ancient kumya
Triple Fortune ouji pants available in 2 sizes
Ozz Oneste's Sunset Rose ouji series
limited Boz available under the designer's new shop Alpstola: https://alpstola.theshop.jp/details here: https://mobile.twitter.com/atelierboz/status/1497187501647495168
>>10736171they had a successful limited reservation period, and are going to announce another one soon.
FINALLY, A NEW (TO US) RESOURCE IS UNCOVERED!!a Japanese guide to ouji. the google auto translation is decent.https://classical-alice.com/2018/03/09/%e7%9a%87%e5%ad%90%e3%83%bb%e7%8e%8b%e5%ad%90%e7%b3%bb%e3%83%ad%e3%83%aa%e3%82%a3%e3%82%bf%e3%83%95%e3%82%a1%e3%83%83%e3%82%b7%e3%83%a7%e3%83%b3%e3%81%ae%e7%89%b9%e5%be%b4%e3%81%a8%e3%83%96%e3%83%a9/
>>10737036>Prince / Prince Lolita brand>Unfortunately, there aren't many brands that sell princely Lolita fashion.the eternal ouji mood
>>10715395This wig is ridiculous
>>10737108I agree; he do be cute tho
lolitas brought back petticoats and crinolines. can ouji bring back mens shapewear? calf pads were the shit, once
>>10737668flat, boxy oujis might look better with some curves. give those pumpkin pants something to puff out around
>>10737669look at this hardware, gulls
what's a good place to find ouji coords? trying to get inspired but Instagram tags are a bust, is there a better social media? should I go back to tumblr?
>>10738260use brand name tags on whatever social media site you useTwitter has many Japanese ouji coords you can find this way
cute new sweet set from AatP
>>10739887one size only, but multiple colorways: https://www.babyssb.co.jp/series/20220304_humpty-dumpty/a series made for twinning
>Ends that Flip up Suit a Strong Spirit
the spider skunk stripe overalls are available for orderhttps://babyssb.shop/category/select/pid/12414
Motie's sheer blouse and lace jabot tie are availablealsolol @ the skirt
tap "read more" for a nice rundown of taobao ouji brands, which begin below the "couple clothes" section. auto-translate works well enough, if you remember that ouji = gayhttps://www.zhihu.com/question/398686032
>>10733192I did.So how was the latest aatp bloodbath?
>>10744033i missed it, but the lighter jacket colorway looks great
Are there glasses that look ok with ouji?
>>10745152yes, it depends on your face shape and the style of ouji you wear. flattering your face is the number one consideration. after that, some common styles are old-fashioned wire frames for classic, plastic colorful frames for sweet, and (obviously) black frames for gothic. i will gather some inspo/examples
>>10746135the most common frames worn with ouji are thin metallic ones. in my opinion, sometimes these frames are a weaker choice, and they can make the face of the wearer seem faded compared to the rest of the coord. brighter frames or chains can help counter that.
>>10746138(usually the chain is worn behind the neck)
>>10746138black frames, rectangular to offset a rounder face
>>10746140small round frames can lend an old-timey mood
>>10746143but they can also merge into the face and not be particularly flattering
>>10746144one of the worst mistakes wrt glasses in ouji is wearing frames that are too small for your face. pic related loses points for being a color unsuited to the coord, also.
>>10746145ouji is an unsubtle fashion, so wearing overly plain, unobtrusive frames can look unbalanced imo.
>>10746148bolder clothes need bolder glasses
>>10746149or at least, glasses that do not fade into your face
>>10746150ok now here are just some coords where the glasses look good, no further commentary and no bad/mediocre examples.
is anyone else enjoying the macarouji vibes of Our Flag Means Death?
Anybody got a good starter guide?I already know what I'm aiming for, but I don't know the parts to the outfits well, or how to coordinate those and what have you.
>>10750336nope. i've never seen one.
>>10750595>>10750596>>10750597>>10750599stop spoonfeeding shit in the OP.
>>10750599finally, japanese guide Classical Alice is great to look through, and google's auto translate is not terrible for it. (i tried to tiny-url it but 4chan hates that.)https://classical-alice.com/2018/03/09/%e7%9a%87%e5%ad%90%e3%83%bb%e7%8e%8b%e5%ad%90%e7%b3%bb%e3%83%ad%e3%83%aa%e3%82%a3%e3%82%bf%e3%83%95%e3%82%a1%e3%83%83%e3%82%b7%e3%83%a7%e3%83%b3%e3%81%ae%e7%89%b9%e5%be%b4%e3%81%a8%e3%83%96%e3%83%a9/amp/they also have articles for makeup and hair/wigs for ouji. this one should probably be added to the next OP. we have been seeking a new guide for years lol
Jupiter in EGA
AatP is having an (in-person) ouji coord contest: https://www.babyssb.co.jp/store_info/20220414_shinjukuap/ winners get a cool tie
>>10754255meanwhile MmM wants $90 for a tie
congrats to hare_joce for being a boz modelreservation for long roland begins the 25th (today), 21:00 japan time: https://alpstola.theshop.jp/items/60257800
>>10755640use a coupon
>>10755640he's so ugly
>>10755640has anyone gotten anything from alpstola/boz2.0? I want a roland but I want to see that the quality is still the same.
>>10755884Just bought a white Roland, will report back when I get it bros
Is there a way to tell AATP men's and women's pieces apart when the measurements aren't given? Not sure if they go by button side like Boz
>>10756439they usually do. also tops are cut differently. there is not a tucked in waist for mens tops
>>10755884I bought 2 Rolands from Alpstola, will report back when I get them. They did add seam pockets to this release, so I'm hopeful that the store owners are committed to keeping the quality as good as Boz.
Posting one of aesthetical roots - cult outfits worn by a medium character from 1973 horror "The Legend of Hell House".
>>10758844This doesn't belong here
>>10758844>>10758853what's your proof? how the hell house is this connected to ouji?
5 months for 1 thread. we are thriving
I’m a fairly seasoned lolita with a friend interested in wearing ouji fashion. I’m stuck on helping with shopping and advice because I do t really worry much with sizing but my friend is very tall, he’s 6’3” with a lean muscular build. I’m not sure what brands tend to be more forgiving when it comes to ouji?
>>10759298this is a variation of the most common question. if none of the guides in this thread seem to help, he may be on his own.the usual brand for larger oujis is fan+friend, tho quality is inconsistent.
recent ouji coords for the gull in the nouji thread that asked for some
Thank u for dumping so many based ouji coords anon
>>10759386>>10759385you are welcome, i am glad you enjoy them
Thread makes me sad because I am a man, and I want to wear EGA to accentuate my masculine features, not muddle them.I just want to be manly and elegant, goddammit ;_;
remember: you are never too old to dress how you want
>>10761006you can dance, if you want to: https://mobile.twitter.com/epsilon130/status/1520530197681909765(ouji doing vigorous dancing)
>>10761008that same ouji, standing still
>>10761011finally, never forget the patron saint of /ouG/, Adi
>>10759526not that hard to accomplish my friend
>>10761016fuck this guy. dandies fuck off.
>>10761821>???isn't he wearing aatp most of the time and making clothes for oujis? if you hate the macarouji thing that's fine but i wouldn't call it dandy
>>10761832it is. it can fuck off
>>10761854ill stop spamming but there are a hundred more examples of masculine outfits and masculine features done well, ouji/aristo can be androgynous but it's still boy-style, it's masculine in nature and doesn't need to be kuroshitsuji shota cosplay
>>10761855yes. a lot of what you posted is quite old, and easy to find on google searches. you were kind to share the images. myself, i am tired if basic bitches not doing the minimum research. we have this same discussion every thread.
>>10761856the new blood needs to be spoonfedotherwise they won't give boz (alpstola?) money to survive until a corduroy roland rerelease, and i will never have truly lived without one.
>>10761847Their products are too extra for me, but I don't see that much difference from AatP, with the crazy accessories and contrasting trim. Dandy is way more conventional and reserved, is it not?
>>10761865dandyism can be anythingIkemen Mode is an ouji brand that sells ouji items and accessories
>>10761891Ah, I thought you meant dandy fashion specifically, in modern form. Very boring cuts, interesting fabric and patterns. I wish ouji brands would pick up on the interesting fabric thing.
>>10761899Yeah the "modern dandy" in 3 different suit cuts in different colours, where you could lay the silhouettes over each other and it'd all look the same.
Any reccs for ouji boots that aren't just sweet lolita boots in huge sizes? Looking for some in black, gold, brown, etc. And Google hasn't been the best cause I just get sweet lolita boots.
requesting examples of nautical-ish ouji?could be sailor collars/sailor uniform-esque or just military ouji that trends toward the naval side of things
>>10763645who is this? i'm not usually impressed with oujis but this one's hot af
>>10764153@byakuya_a on Instagram
>>10763644picture's goe. what was wrong with this one? underage?
Hey /ouG/, are you ready to get comfy, Moitie-style?
i hate the belt, buthttps://noisyworks.booth.pm/items/3874149
>>10766334This looks like a medieval torture device
>>10715389Can I wear solely shorts for ouji or should I get some pants
>>10766479do what thou wilt
>>10766334Is this supposed to go over or under pants?
>>10766334I honestly find this kind of weird. Exposed cage skirts make sense as an exposed undergarments thing, but a cage...bloomer...thing?
>>10766835over. it is decorative>>10767795like a necktie, it does not need to have a logical function
how do you wear these, they look see-through
>>10771394the buttons going across horizontally are a flap, the material may be very thin but the front panel is 2 layers of fabric, there will be a fly/zipper behind that so it shouldn't be an issue. the ass end on the other hand idk. wear a tail coat.
>>10771490Err that's how it should be, but the buttons don't look functional, and the lightness of the fabric changes half way down the crotch making it look like the whole panel is only doubled half way down. I think it's ugly so you probably just don't wear them but maybe some white bloomers underneath aren't a bad idea.
2022 AW outerwear from AatP looks good