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Ita thread is on sage.

>sHe's NeVeR BeEn PoStEd BeFoRe
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>>10712970
The cat is cute
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>>10712970
>sHe's NeVeR BeEn PoStEd BeFoRe
This girl has been posted before tho? Multiple times I think?
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>>10712977
It's irony you autist
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>>10712978
How is it ironic? The black girl from the last thread who people were sperging about seasonal prints over is not this same girl.
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>>10712979
Anon must be face blind
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My mom would drive 3+ hours just to beat my ass if she saw me with my hair like that and posting it online.
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>>10712979
>>10712983
They've both been posted
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>>10712970
Wearing a puffy skirt does not make it lolita. this girl always just wears a homemade skirt and the entire rest of her outfit (I can’t even call it a coord) is normie clothes and she thinks it’s lolita
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>>10712983
Didn't you know anon? All black lolitas are the same lolita obviously
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>>10713044
this is the worst i've seen in a while
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>>10713044
this...has to be a child, right
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>>10713044
Just get a petti.>>10712991
Homeless kei
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>>10712970
She's super cute tho
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>>10713168
Sure, I don’t hate tacky holiday vibes, but it’s not lolita. Failing to understand that is why she’s a perma-ita
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>>10712970
that hair color is absolutely repulsive who does that shitty of a dye job and think it's fine? the absolute state of that hair
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>>10713044
aww yee, this has all the "milanoo ita from 2011" vibes but updated for the current year. Much love. I hope one day she wears really super cute coords
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>>10713065
It looks like it, and really we shouldn’t make fun. But the posing by the toilet itas always get me. At least her bathroom doesn’t look disgustingly dirty.
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You guys need to all calm the eff down. She looks like she's having fun and enjoying herself.
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>>10713182
got the exact same vibe except for the socks, hope she moves on to better stuff in future
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>>10713371
Ugly ita and racist doesn't deserve fun
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>>10713044
That’s a kid and you can’t convince me otherwise.
Shame on you anon, try to have at least one moral in your life’s arsenal….
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Not technically recent but she posted it to highlight her fav coords of 2021. Kek. Even if you ignore her size, it’s an ita mess.
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>>10713424
She has enough recent ita coords, why waste time posting something old?
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>>10713425
idk nta, but if it was in this last year then that is recent enough to be in the ita thread. most people are referencing over 5+ years when it comes to being too old to be posted here, because since then they could have gotten better. In a year? Nah. This is an oldfag hobby, you need at least 4+
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>>10713425
Because she specifically referenced it as one of her best coords of 2021, which makes it even funnier because it’s a disaster.

Post your own itas if you have complaints nonny.
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>>10713427
I dislike every coord of hers I've seen but the fact you think it takes 4+ years to just not dress ita makes me think you're a fucking ita

It literally takes a little bit of concrit or asking for help or advice to put together a not ita coord, even if you were ita before.
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>>10713433
Learn to read, nonny. You're taking things out of context and derailing the thread you inline arguing faggot.
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>>10713434
No other context is needed, anyone who thinks it takes 4 years to dress better (as in literally just not ita and wear lolita correctly) must be an ita or spent way too long being one.
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>>10713435
>Triggered newlita continuing to respond
Anon, I've been on this board since it was born. There was context in the comment, but you're unfortunately handicap and can't read.

Too bad your parents didn't kill you for that mental handicap when they had the chance.
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What is the >sHe's NeVeR BeEn PoStEd BeFoRe a reference to because it’s not the OP’s autist that got posted, did I miss something??
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>>10712986
Lmao at the extreme distortion from the filter used to make her legs look longer
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>>10713571
Is that a tumor on her neck?
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>>10712989
her hair is dry but still looks better than her outfit
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>>10712970
what is wrong with her lip? yikes. cat is cute
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>>10713556
This is from reddit and if you look through her post history, this girl has an eating disorder...explains the filter.

Doesn't excuse her edgelord posting, though.
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>>10713599
It pissed me off we can't be meaner to men in lolita.....
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>>10713599
i don't really mind the coord but he looks ridiculous in it
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>>10713612
sissy vibes, he looks like 60, I pitty his comm
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>>10713596
Been posted before in earlier threads, twice. Starting to look like a vendetta.
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>>10713599
I can never get over how ugly he looks. His coords are fine and he isn't a creep but lolita just shouldn't be for ugly men or men in general except for the rare exceptions such as Mana
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>>10713649
nta but some people go through the group late or they get bumped up back onto people's newsfeeds. It's pretty bad tho. There's far too much validation for how "not lolita" it is. CoF is full of big larper energy.
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>>10713652
or ugly women. ugly people need to get out of lolita. fatties are auto uggos.
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>>10713652
He seems like a creep to me desu. People should be getting warning signs from old men trying to pander to younger women, regardless. He doesn't even like zelda, for instance. Doesn't that seem weird?
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Sick of men getting asspats for wearing lolita trash fires. Men should be banned from the fashion because they get to look like shit and everyone worships the ground they walk on anyways.
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>>10713597
Who is this??
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>>10713697
>CoF is full of big larper energy.
So is a lot of cgl too tho
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>>10713717
The only one giving them as pets are the lolitas at heart on closet of frills. There’s a trans woman in my comm that looks fantastic and the leader and super feminizes her appearance and fits in with the rest of us. But this thing of old ass man wearing lolita is disgusting. I guarantee in real life there are very few people in the comm are OK with old men and giving them asspats
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>>10713753
*in lolita. Damn autocorrect always changes “in lolita” to “and a leader”
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>>10713763
This is also old/from last thread? If people are going to dump at least don't waste your own time reposting the same shit.
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>>10713701
>He doesn't even like zelda, for instance
What does this even mean? I have a shit ton of female friends who don't like zelda and are millennials.
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>>10713767
I'm assuming you haven't him holding the zelda encylopedia in multiple photos. He just uses it as a prop to pander to millennials.
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>>10713599
his hair always looks like shit, without fail
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>>10713764
Are you new? This happens all the time.
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>>10713773
Actually I had completely forgotten he did that until you brought it up again. I try to delete these people in this thread from my mind as soon as I see them.
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>>10713966
>Wearing mostly brand
>Still looks bad
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>>10713966
wow she aged so much
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>>10714017
She just has a double chin
That will age anyone
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>>10713966
Is this Moitie ita? Her and meow tan are my favourite people. Never change.
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>>10713599
Western men will never ever ever look good in lolita. They will always look like creepy sissies.
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>>10713966
Moitie Ita! I see she's still going strong
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>>10714024
she didn't have it before...
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>>10713967
It’s party-kei, guys. You just don’t understand.
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>>10713966
That is a weird as fuck angle
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>>10713044
that's just a kid come on , give it a petticoat and it wouldn't even be too horrible
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>>10713133
the shoes ... good lord
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>>10713966
Themi Lovato
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>>10714030
honestly i dont see how this looks "sissy" at all. yes he's hideous, and yes he looks like a sissy in sweet. yes his hair is godawful. but this coord isnt the worst and looks like a typical goth coord.
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>>10713966
Is this Lana del Rey?
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>>10714354
Wow she's gorgeous! Looks just like Anya Taylor Joy.
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>>10714384
Nice bait. Girl is ugly, outfit is worse
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>>10713967
kaitlyn bennet is a lolita?!
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>>10713649
she looks like an antifa girl that the Black guys avoid like the plague. it's really sad... I can smell her pronouns and crack from here.
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Third world Lolita deserves a whole new category
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>>10714517
the trash/recycling stacked up on that cement brick is sending me
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>>10713967
that print looks like the AI generated "Name one thing in this photo"
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>>10714384
Don’t lie like that, she looks like a younger Margaret Palermo…..
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>>10713979
you have to be truly talented to make moitie look like hot topic
>>10714384
this anon comes in every thread where she's posted and says this stupid shit. You're ugly. At least put some effort in to have good makeup & hair.
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>>10714354
Is the bar for being a lolita so low that the blonde Lord Farquad looking one has almost as many followers as Lor?
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>>10714713
Yes
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>>10714354
Yikes, Even with glasses distortion and no makeup the left girl still looks better
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>>10714713
We're losing our fashion to newbs that look like shit.
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lolitas need to spend less on brand and more on getting some basic dental work
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>>10714726
I don't understand how. There are plenty of good looking girls who know how to dress themselves properly. Are the itas just the loudest, therefore drawing more attention?
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there's been a recent large influx of sexualizing newbies in the fashion. holy shit make it stop
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>>10714762
Ewww it's brand too
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>>10714354
I usually don’t like her coords, but this one isn’t that bad, it only needs hair styling and a hair accessory and it would be completely fine.
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>>10714762
always the "smol but sexy" unwashed bitches with septum piercings looking to weasel their way in. wtf
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>>10714752
A lot of lolitas were weebs, tomboys, or fatties who weren’t into fashion before lolita. You can tell by how many newbs don’t know what cuts work for them, how to style hair, put on makeup. Lolita is flashy and cute so gulls think it’s a quick way to get validation and be feminine
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>>10714762
this pisses me off so much i dont even know where to begin im gonna start swinging
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>>10714762
why is her feet like that omfg
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>>10714762
Anon, how could you forget the other one.
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>>10715071
what the hell. im fucking disgusted
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>>10715074
>>10715071
>>10714762
Posing is gross but I like her wig
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>>10714843
aint nothing smol about her she looks about 6 feet tall and fat to boot.
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>>10715071
coomerlitas huh?
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>>10714762
>>10715071
Embarrassing behavior from a grown adult
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>>10715071
i'm so confused, why does she look like an Amazonian
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miami alt lolita lgbtq

the most sinister combination of hashtags
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>>10715093
Isn't this the girl who called Lor out for likegate? Absolutely poggers.
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>>10715071
Those fucking clompers....
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>>10715071
Fuck, why she had to profanate this dress?
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>>10715093
I just saw the explicit ones and i want to throw up
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>>10715096
Irony. I'm telling y'all the LARPers, itas, and Lolita at heart have taken over
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>>10715096
The nerve of her to make Lor prostrate to her SJW posse, only for her to turn around and sexualize this fashion doing ahegao. I can't wrap my brain around this level of stupidity.
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>>10715093
The funniest part of this photo is how utterly retarded she looks with her eyelash coming off. It looked like her eyelid is drooping and the ahegao attempt looks nothing like an O face and more like a retard drooling
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>>10715111
>profanate
Why are you talking with 16th century obsolete English? Is this an ESLfag?
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>>10713598
Check out that stare, definitely autistic. Explains the outfit
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>>10715082
definitely. maybe looking like a rat and doing retard face on instagram makes her feel uwu smol
>>10715071
>>10715093
Pain.
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>>10713599
I hate this dude so much, he coords are cute, but the whiplash I get when I see his face is terrible. I don't understand why he doesn't put a sticker over his face? It's like he wants people to hate him
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>>10715329
stickers are so useless, just use a mannequin at that point.
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>>10714774
Well, not everyone's gonna spend their OF money on shitty taobao hauls
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>>10715329
you would still see the man hands and turtle skin neck lol
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wtf...
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>>10715464

I don't get how these brands survive. This is so hideous wtf.
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>>10715479
Is this dolbe? That’s the only brand I know that caters to the morbidly obese
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>>10713599
Girl I- what are those shoesssss? I’m not sure weather to laugh or cry…
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>>10715479
it's probably just a hobby business so it will keep on surviving until the owner gets bored of it
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>>10715491
please tell me this isn't a sweet lolita who has never looked at a gothic lolita, or even mana before ever? these tall platform shoes are very common
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>>10714762
Half her ass cheek is just hanging out newbs don’t understand this fashion started from a protest against the sexualization of women. This is disgusting find your own thing fetishizers aren’t welcome here. Watch some DDLG cry baby respond or screenshot this and whine about how Lolita’s are so mean boohoo.
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>>10715498
He’s a sissy who usually dresses in sweet, yes
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Lmao I am NOT a Sweet Lolita (gothic and hime) and I love platforms but these straight up don’t have a good shape and aren’t balanced with the coord I think they look awful here. Lmao I love Mana’s big shoes tho they actually work.
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>>10715499
Hum she posted photos of her with her legs wide open while wearing this dress, at this point she knows exactly what she's doing.
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What in the Taobao is happening here?
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The taobao egirl lolitas with usernames like “UwU_Vore_Poop” are actually a fucking plague to the fashion. I’ll take 100 shitty handmade weirdos over 1 of these at a meetup anyday
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>>10715506
Hime isn't a lolita substyle on it's own, you dumb fuck. It's either sweet lolita or classic.

Also you didn't quote anyone, newfag
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>>10713599
This is his only coord I’ve really liked so far. In addition to recalling Mana, the over-the-top shoe silhouette feels aligned with the jarring sight of a man in a lolita dress. His man bod also actually fills out the shapeless sack bodices that moitie can’t stop giving us. He should continue to stick to gothic imo

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>>10715071
This is extremely unfortunate
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>>10715464
This is what safe place warriors in the lolita community look like to a T
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>>10715551
really? i prefer him in sweet. this moitie coord with the exaggerated platforms comes off as try-hard to me.
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>>10715567
His other coords aren’t all bad and I certainly haven’t seen them all, but I think a man in sweet or even classic coords inevitably gives off a bit of a sissy feeling which is why I prefer this departure from it. Just my onion
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>>10715528
>elf ears
>princess blanket and pillows on floor
>messy toy pile
>even worse toabao op on wall
>mismatching shoes
>chain extending from under pillow?
DDLG ita vibes
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>>10715531
>>10715528
I'm sorry but I would take these girls in a heartbeat over
>>10715464
>>10715425
Because it even though it's barely lolita. At least it looks good within its own style.
Where as the other itas look like shit no matter what
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>>10715677
Are you sure your links are in the right order? You'd take UwU_Vore_Poop over streetwear girl? >>10715425 isn't lolita but it's at least marginally more tolerable to look at than if I saw this in the wild: >>10715531
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>>10715677
>e girl thot lolita at heart spotted

Honey, you outed yourself for having no taste. None of them are good. Sorry you got posted. Please learn how to actually wear lolita.
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>>10715677
Not a chance. >>10715425 or >>10715464
Might look shitty but they usually are friendly/nice people. The egirl types are usually filthy and trashy as fuck. Type to tell u how their daddy bought them another barbie or some shit. I’d much rather the unfortunate looking person who actually acts like a human being.
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>>10715699
nevermind that the egirl thots are aggressively ita, where as the others are probably just ita and unaware.

egirls are aggressive enough for someone to aggressively tell them they are doing it wrong. I would
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>>10715699
You'd take weed shoes over elf ears?

If >>10715425 saw me in public wearing brand she'd would give me a dirty glare
>>10715528 would probably compliment me and be nice
>>10715464 these people at a meetup would be nice to my face and call me fatphobic and a bitch behind my back

>>10715531 might hunt me down at a store to ask how to use a shopping service but still be nice about it

Yes I would take a teenager expressing themselves through experimental fashion over a 30 year old obese woman wearing a diy bedsheets jsk
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>>10715749
you sound new. of course you'd take your gen z age range
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>>10715490
Can’t be. Dollbe plasters her name all over her brand, and the prints are…. Larger….
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>>10715750
Nah I agree with other anon. When I see those obese older women they have to be mentally deranged to dress like that. So unaware of how disturbing they look, it has to be mental illness
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>>10715071
Her insta, what is it? I want to block this so I never have to accidentally come across it
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>>10715502
You misunderstood ayrt. They're referring to the person they replied to as being clueless about goth shoes, not to the man
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>>10715531
>UwU_Vore_Poop
My sides
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>>10715589
>chain extending from under pillow

Girlie that’s a phone charger kek
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>>10715768
kawaiiqueerdo
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>>10715490
This is A. Gato Designs
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>>10715754
Hey, hi how are you.
>don’t care

Shut up.
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>>10715749
same desu. and i am 30. i just have a job and brand kek.
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>>10715095
Omg why does this have so many likes? Just gross
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cosplay and Lolita crossover, executed horribly.
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>>10714762
>>10715071
Not surprised newbies will do this. A couple of years ago i definitely saw an image of a girl at a lolita meet masturbating and nothing will be worse than that. The normalisation of sex work is a curse.
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>>10716067
I don't know what's more scary, their face or the fact I'm not sure if those are tights or their legs
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>>10716067
Anyone know what dress that is?
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>>10716199
The cut and fabric choice scream BTSSB but couldn't tell you which release it is.
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>>10716073
Those look like tights, but I’m more shocked by the contour and white eyeliner.
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>>10716070
Sex work =/= exhibitionism. That's a stretch.
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>>10716199
>>10716208
Antoinette Bouquet Print Ribbon Gobelin JSK, 2008. It's BTSSB.
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>>10716217
The dress itself is okay but nothing about it screams “princess peach” to me. It looks like a grandma couch print.
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>>10716070
>image of a girl at a lolita meet masturbating
What the hell? What kind of meet was that, an orgy?
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>>10716217
Thanks anon
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>>10715589
>even worse taobao op on wall
anon that’s Milky Planet
I agree that this girl is an ita and her room is a disaster but even the shitty 2013 Milky Planet release is a million times better than the catastrophe she’s wearing
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>>10716243
really? i think it looks like something peach would wear if she were a lolita, which i think is what the cosplayer was going for? i kind of like it
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>>10716421
anon people don't like cosplay and lolita combine like this and it looks bad
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>>10716067
Holy shit this doesn't succeed in any way. Neither as Lolita nor a princess peach cosplay. Peach's dress would be so easy to convert to Lolita, so why TF would you go with a small A-line print instead of a big bright pink hime cupcake dress? Don't even get me started on the hair and makeup

>>10716070
Pics or it didn't happen because I honestly kind of don't believe that
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>>10716421
What? Peach is a princess that wears an enormous poofy pink gown. If she were a lolita she'd probably wear hime AP like picrel, not a toned down gobelin dress with minimal poof.

This looks so shitty that I have to assume youre defending yourself after getting posted.
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>>10716428
not me lol i just liked the cosplay i didnt realize it would be such a big sin/deal
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>>10716430
Name one good thing about the cosplay, because the hair and makeup sure ain't it
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>>10716067
When Joelle does a better Peach coord that’s really saying something
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>>10716430
Kek sorry you got posted
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>>10716399
That's one sad, crappy-looking Milky Planet. Are we sure it's not a replica?
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>>10716434
>>10716474
yall can live in that reality all u want but in the real world outside of /cgl/ some ppl r just gonna have different opinions from u and it doesnt mean theyre whiteknighting their friends or defending themselves lmfao. the makeup is cute, so is the wig, its a cute pink subdued peach lolita crossover… in my onion!!
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>>10716497
That’s not the hot take you think it is anon. Onion, kek
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>>10716497
>the makeup is cute, so is the wig
My sides fucking KEK
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>>10716067
The longer I look the worse it gets. Peach literally already wears gloves and they are not fingerless. Why is that simple blouseless JSK and simple plain white tights paired with an OTT bustle and gloves? Is she wearing tangled Party City pearls? And she's doing that shit tier "white kawaii eye makeup" garbage that trash weebs always try.
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Western lolita brands need to die. Why are people supporting this trash
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>>10716506
Dropped pic
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>>10716503
Honestly if the makeup and wig were less harsh I’d like it
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>>10716507
What's that dress on the right? It looks like AP's wonder party but I can't tell because she's holding it like a retarded child
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>>10716421
>>10716497
Get the fuck off this board. It's not for LARPers.
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>>10716502
I honestly thought it was supposed to be that Boosette meme and she was going for spooky ghostly makeup
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>>10716525
They're both Puvithel
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>>10716507
Embarrassing
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>>10716497
nice self-white knighting. your cosplay failed, along with your lolita. how's it feel to be an ugly ita?

also no one thinks you're a girl you nasty gender special
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>>10716507
>>10716506
worst part is the right looks like they are trying to rip Fruits Parlor and desu on a shitty bed cloth .. why would anyone buy this trash when they can buy fruits parlor for 90$.

Anytime I see puthival she just looks like she's a lolita at heart, larping as a lolita to shill things to other lolita at hearts. She doesn't dress good.
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>>10716540
>Puvithel
This is what happens when you let an ita lead the forefront to lolita at heart.
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>>10716565
HELPPP U PPL R DELUSIONAL i dont even know who the girl in the picture is (or they/it or whatever the fuck) y’all are miserable as hell expending all ur energy on this i am out of here !!! mom come pick me up the gulls are being weird !!!!!!!
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>>10716600
Talk like a fucking adult, this board is 18+
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>>10716605
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>>10716600
Stop talking like a fucking retard. You seem very lost. Discord is the other way, sperg.
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>>10716614
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>>10716600
Holy shit you must be 18+ to use this board
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>>10716615
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>>10716617
Forgot to attach like an idiot
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>>10716618
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>>10716619
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>>10716620
End dump
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>>10716615
I actually like this, amazing wig. Who is it?
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>>10716618
chill some of us think this is a child
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most of these arent even ita you bitches are just haters
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>>10716627
oh anon...I mean, ita threads CAN be pretty nitpicky, but in this particular thread like 90% of these are ita. way to expose your complete lack of fashion sense.
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>>10716632
show me one ita and explain your reasoning
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>>10716625
They're 18, I checked their Reddit
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>>10716615
this doesn't belong in this thread
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>>10716634

>>10712986
Cheap quality, none of the motifs match

>>10713044
Also cheap quality

>>10713133
Clown makeup, boots, dress, all of it

>>10713571
Shitty dress, bad lace, bad shape, bad makeup, terrible color combination

>>10713598
Over stuffed petti, dollar store accessories, why is there a mushroom if this is a Christmas coord

>>10713763
I shouldn’t have to explain this one

>>10713966
Everything is normie

>>10713967
Cheap accessories, forever 21 blouse

>>10714354
Aliexpress quality

>>10714517
Color matching thrown out the window, fabric looks like paper

>>10714762
Age player

>>10715095
Aliexpress dress with winter boots? Barebones effort

>>10715425
Nothing matches

>>10715464
Poor quality

>>10716067
Cosplay

>>10716507
Bad quality and storage design choices. Colors don’t make sense

>>10716614
ageplayer/regressor

>>10716615
Terrible quality dress, bad lace, looks like it came from wish.Wig is nice though

>>10716619
Fetishist

>>10716620
Normie

>>10716621
Looks bad and cheap
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>>10716639
Did you not see the construction of the bodice???
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>>10716620
has this girl ever seen a lolita outfit?
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>>10716627
you must be ita or have terrible taste, this thread is filled with ugly coords
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>>10716067
She looks like a house brand Choke
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>>10716643
It's sad that itas need to be repeatedly taught about cheap shitty materials. It must be autism because itas will look at a shiny sissy dress or knockoff and think it looks good. Sucks to suck
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>>10716478
The 2013 release doesn’t even have a replica.
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>>10716644
I see it. And I still don't care. It's not ita it's just lower quality lolita
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>>10716740
Oof newfag exposed. That's EXACTLY how ITA is used. You dumb shit. Please go educate yourself before posting in a fashion you've done no research on
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>>10716643
thought so stay mad bitch seethe harder

I bet you don’t even own brand
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>>10716747
Why do you think something's wrong with it
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>>10715425
She's prettier than half of the community, she would be a great mannequin for someone who knows how to style her
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>>10716756
nice self post, whiteknight.
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>>10716624
she posted it yesterday on r/lolita
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>>10716752
nta but nonny you asked for what was wrong with the majority of the thread. I'm not sure how you can revert to "I bet you don't even own brand" when you quite..literally said there was nothing wrong with the majority of the COSTUMES in this thread, because they "don't look ita just low quality"

Imagine. I'm not the anon, but I'm spelling this out for you that a lot of us do infact own brand and that's not gonna hurt anyone's feelings. But nice projection. Stop wearing shit chinese lolita COSTUMES
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>>10716766
you bitch! youre a LIAR!!

you dont own brand

have fun COSPLAYING a lolita with your shitty taobao coord
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>>10716771
Gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8 no h8
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>>10716747
Her face is unfortunate but this is fine otherwise. Shoes aren't great, but looks like more of a practical option for a lot of walking, and at the very least they match the colors quite well

>>10716762
NAYRT but I agree, she's got a cute face and is someone that I would at least want to see in a better coord so fingers crossed that she can get her shit figured out
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>>10716778
you do realize pudgy eccentric faces suit sweet lolita the most? girl you're talking up would only suit classic. Her features are plain AF. realistically ita threads have nothing to do with "attractiveness" outside of lolita. It has everything to do with their bad coords. It just sounds like you're in here giving yourself an asspat that you "look better than the rest of the community" and desu I've seen plenty of girls that look better than ms. plain face jane.
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>>10716779
hope you understand a mannequin does kinda mean something plain (just as you said), so you are kinda agreeing with me. It's no surprise what the ita thread is about and that it have nothing to do with attractiveness. I know. I swear.
What I meant is from all the girls posted here she is the one I'd love to see in a good coord the most because being as pretty as she is and dress so ugly is a huge waste.>>10716779
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pls can all tiktoklitas just die already
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>>10716808
Someone needs to tell them this clown makeup doesn't fit in lolita
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>>10715589
Lots of picking on random shit that has nothing to do with the coord you good?
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>>10716808
How do tiktoklitas only know how to do makeup one way and manage to be all bad at it anyway? Her coord manages to be even worse...
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>>10716615
This isn't as bad as you want it to be anon.....
>Zooms in
Ok I see your point......
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>>10716750
Sorry. I'd take >>10716615 over a brand ita any day
The amount of times I've been called a newfag because I'm not a raging bitch ready to tear apart everything posted here. How about have some eyes so you can see you don't need hundred dollar brand dresses to still fit into the fashion.
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>>10716634
Baiting is very obvious here. It has to be bait.. please dear God.
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>>10716832
>hundred dollar brand dresses
kek
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>>10716766
Why respond to such obvooua bait, retard?
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>>10716852
Oh I'm sorry. I guess you can get ugly stretched pit stained angelic pretty for 50$
Most decent dresses are atleast a hundred dollars
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>>10716856
Most brand is significantly over $100 I think that’s why the “kek” but okay
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>>10716627
aww you got posted :(
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>>10716856
>at least $100
wake up from your coma sweetie. it's not 2015 anymore.
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>>10715425
What the fuck did she do to those mary magdalene OTKs?
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>>10716600
Go back to tiktok and grow the fuck up. You look like shit and people here aren’t afraid to say it.
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>>10716981
Let's be real anon, they're probably knock offs
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>>10716506
#notallindie seriously tho there *are* good western indie brands out there and puvi isn’t really a lolita brand to begin with. This is one of only a handful of pieces that are even vaguely Lolita that she’s made. Still think her stuff is uggo, but posting her stuff to shit on western brands in general is kinda unfair.
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>>10716621
lol I have this skirt, stuffing a petti under a Hot Topic skirt does not make it magically suitable for lolita
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>>10716832
Poorfag detected
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>>10716998
Tbh anybody who thinks that about all indie brands is such an obvious newfag/surface skimmer. They always point to low hanging fruit, borderline lolita and the worst of brands like puvi and Jo and say these kinds of things, but anybody who knows or owns any western brands knows that there are several very good western with really high quality stuff.

Proportionally, most Lolita brands in general are garbage. There are like 800 taobao brands, and maybe 60 that aren’t total trash. With that in mind, the western indie pool is proportionally much better.
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>>10716979
NTA but I've bought plenty of secondhand IW, Atepie, AATP, etc. JSKS and OPs for $90-$100. Save for one they just are never prints.
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>>10717060
The other nonny was specifically talking about AP. The brands you mentioned routinely have dresses in that price range secondhand because they weren't popular or are weird colours.
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if you wear brand instead of making your coord from scratch youre a fucking tasteless ita
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>>10717099
you tried
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>>10715464
this is A Gato. Her designs five years ago had potential, just needed a better fabric manufacturer and to get the length right. But she started shopping at joanns only and it's all hideous and looks so itchy. Also the designer talks about her porn obsession all the time.
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>>10717042
Like who? RRM just made a fool of themselves with mediocre quality shit priced for like 500 euros or whatever ridiculous price it was
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>>10717042
>>10717333
Lady Sloth is known for being high quality, at least from what I've heard around the grapevine
Dollbe is okay
Tyler has made a video about Sleepyland and she likes them
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>>10717333
Kek pretty sure you’re just new/shit stirring but I’ll bite.

Sweet Mildred
Miss danger
Ruby Princess
Violet Fane
Chocolate bunny
EDC
Lady sloth
And several more I can’t remember the name of off the top of my head.

The point is, it’s really easy to look at the worst of western indie brands and say they’re all shit when in reality there are lots of people out there doing good work. I guess pointing out the worst is the purpose of this site, but don’t get it confused. I’m pretty sure Sweet Mildred has been doing this for like 20 years now and her stuff is crazy good, better than brand these days. To lump her in with Puvi/jo (who aren’t even really Lolita brands anyways) shows how little people on cgl actually know about the brands that are out there who aren’t producing stuff that gets posted to the ita thread on a regular basis.
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>>10717297
>the designer talks about porn obsession

Wait wut? Sauce? I know her irl and never has she ever said anything like that but I don’t stalk her socials.
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>lady sloth only has shirring for the fucking 3XL+ sizes

what the fuck... that doesn't make sense
maybe i'm salty that i fit into M-L aside from the bust measurement
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>>10717340
DollBe has great construction and fabric but her prints are mostly middle school photoshop project level. If you find a print you like from her, her stuff is really well made and totally worth it if it’s your style.
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>>10717343
it's all newfags or weirdo "if its not japanese its not lolita love japan all hail glorious nippon" obsessors
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>>10717347
Seconding. One of our comm members has a skirt from her that is really really nice. I would have thought it was brand except for the size.
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>>10717351
nah bro, if you were around during LJ days you'd know we've always been here. we've watched shit come and go and eventually you'll just be holding onto a brandless nobody's work just like all the other's in the past. Can you name them? No? There's my point.
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>>10717345
Having also met the designer, she talks about her fairly explicit BL itabag a lot.
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>>10717353
Someone literally did name them anon?!?Some of us are in this fashion for dresses they love, and that’s not exclusive to specific brand names. I’ve got a violet fane piece I’d be buried in.
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>>10717366
this. if you're wearing a dress or brand only because its some big name brand and not because you love the craftsmanship and quality of the dresses, then maybe lolita isn't really the fashion for you?
this can be said about any brand too. you don't wear Angelic Pretty only because it's a "big popular brand" right?
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>>10717366
Wait what? I know her too and I completely missed that. Sauce?
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>>10717380
Must’ve clicked the wrong thing, was asking about gato’s porn obsession
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>>10717343
Half of those are garbage and get complaints from people who buy from them all the time
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>>10717384
I remember VF having complaints about construction very recently
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>>10717384
Kek like AP doesn’t have massive quality control issues. I own pieces from more than half of those brands and they’ve all been very good experiences. Every brand large and small will have issues from time to time, but if you think that’s a deal breaker then you probably shouldn’t buy from ap either kek
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>>10717340
>>10717343

>dollbe
hilariously ita, one of those examples people usually post as BAD western indie
>sweet mildred
mostly ita, though now she's branching out into basics and old school pieces which are harder for her to fuck up
>miss danger
probably the best of the brands listed
>ruby princess
has released hardly anything beyond accessories
>VF
becoming well known for bad quality
>chocolate bunny
this looks like a sissy brand or something idek
>LS
ita as fuck, poor construction, terrible communications and processing time
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>>10717391
>calling sweet Mildred ita

You shut your newfag mouth kek
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>>10717391
I have three VF pieces and they’re all gorgeous. I’ve also never had any issues with LS. I mean yeah the wait times are long but that’s the price you pay for a dress that wasn’t made in a Philippine sweat shop.
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>>10717345
I've modeled quite a few runways for other brands but shared green rooms with her. Also once got trapped at dinner with a mutual friend. Long tangents about her porn itabag that I did not want to know about, including pointing out each individual piece. Also a lot of talk about shibari when she decided it would look edgy to tie up models bc "couture"
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>>10717340
>Tyler has made a video about Sleepyland and she likes them
It was likely PR so obviously she's going to praise them
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>>10717391
NTA but wow everything you know about indie brands is wrong. hilarious.
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>>10717426
ah yes, tyler who is so well known for praising everyone she mentions in her videos...

>>10717412
fucking fujoshis
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>>10717424
This makes me nostalgic
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>>10717424
Fix the posing and this is just passable. Just looks like her first coord. But also looks like it was taken in 2009 and the same time.
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>>10717424
is this recent???? this is taking me back to 2010
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>>10717391
Agree with everything you said here. Lady Sloth’s design/construction is awful. Or maybe patterning? I’m not really sure what to cook, but her bonuses are just a tube and they look baggy and it’ll fit it on literally everyone that wears them, unless the person is so fat they’re a tube shape
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>>10717475
Shit I mean bodices are ill fitting. Just got my nails done
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>>10717476
They really aren’t though? A quick stroll on insta puts this theory to rest.
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>>10717366
Oof. I'm talking about the ones that have come and gone in the lj period into now anon. Big fucking oof. More proof that you shits are newfags. You didn't even name one of the previous. At all. You mean the new ones that were named? Ok give it a few years and it'll be brandless like the rest.

God. I'm tired of you newfags not reading at all.
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>>10717424
DA likely isn't fresh. Also no one that owns that replica bolero is still dressing like that in 2022
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>>10717401
Ikr, aside from that jellyfish print, Mildred has some really nice pieces
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>>10717472
The phone looks far too chunky, I'm guessing this is from around 2011
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>>10716568
I saw her stuff in person for the first time and I cannot believe people actually buy it. It was so sloppy and messy, you could see the glue everywhere… just awful
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>>10717346
what are you on about? i have several lady sloth pieces in sizes S and M and they have partial shirring
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>>10717528
>thinking sweet Mildred is new

Me thinks you’re the newfag here kek her brand is Ten years old, and she was selling long before she established sm
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>>10717556
The fact that Tekko sidelined sweet Mildred to open for puvi in the fashion show really grinds my gears. How are you gonna have an actually decent established brand open for that hot mess?
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>>10717556
the only thing i've ever liked by her is the RVR pin design. everything else, including the merch i finally saw in person at her booth, was a hot mess of garbage you'd find at Claire's
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>>10717600
No one knew of sweet mildred "10 years ago." If she just popped up, nothing she made was much of value to any of us.

You want a capsule in time?
http://www.avantgauche.co.uk/shop/gaijin.html
Not on the list. That is a 10 year old list. Are the majority of these around? No. Now go eat your words, newfag.

Also you handmade tards are insufferable. No one cares about your ita ass brandless clothes. There's still plenty of us that don't humor handmade at all, just like 10 years ago. There's a reason why the majority of that list aren't around.

Also some of us know you handmade tards come on cgl to boast about your own craftmanship. This board used to be about sewing, after all.
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>>10717670
NTA but you're so mad it's hilarious
Calm down
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>>10717556
I will never understand the hype for the heart necklaces - every part of them is available on aliexpress for pennies
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She painted on perfectly good BTSSB. Pain.
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>>10717708
Literally was about to post that, I know it’s “punk”, but lolita “punk” is usually super polished
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>>10717670
seethe granny.

>>10717691
They're also genuinely so tacky it's unbelievable that she sells them. I'm amazed that anyone would buy them especially when you can get the same thing for less than $5 on TaoBao/Aliexpress/eBay

>>10717708
usually I'm in the "it's your dress do whatever you want with it crowd" but man this is painful. It's like watching wannabe interior designers painting over heirloom solid wood furniture. just no.
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>>10717708
This image makes me sad.
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>>10717670
I mean I knew of SM 10 years ago? not sure what the point is here. Do you not know how many pop-up Japanese brands have come and gone too? Even bulwark brands like MMM took major hits and have only returned at a fraction of their former quality/glory. That's just the nature of a niche fashion, there will be some major players who don't really go anywhere (though even among the major brands there have been hiccups) but most smaller brands in Japan and the west are going to fail or stop production at some point. The vast majority of fashion brands fail in general. That's just the nature of the industry as a whole.

Tbh I don't even know if "fail" is the right word. A lot of those people simply grow out of their lolita fashion brand and realize that it's incredibly difficult to make real money doing it, and move along to other things. One of the girls on that list I know personally and she now makes a small fortune in bridal couture. Her brand didn't fail per se, she just saw more potential in another market where she'd see more support and she acted on that.

I don't buy anything I don't like /won't wear and yes, there are a lot of bad indie brands globally, but I support indie brands whenever I can because that means a lot more to the community as a whole. AP isn't going to shut production if 10 lolitas in the US don't buy their next release. But if those same 10 lolitas bought something from an indie brand, that could make all the difference to that brand staying open and contributing to the community as a whole.
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>>10717708
That is painful.
The chunky arms don't help either.
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>>10717732
If it's a functioning business, then yes fail is the right term. You don't need to wear lolita to be a business owner. Not a good excuse. I think you are taking this incredibly personally, though. I wouldn't be surprised if you were one of the shitty western brand designers currently.
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How funny
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>>10717787
Her arms are far from chunky, nonnie. They look exceedingly average. Her stained pits are far more disturbing.
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>>10717880
NTA but changing to a more successful business model is the opposite of failure. Successful businesses do that literally all the time and completely change their entire product/line up/market etc.
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>>10717890
hes like 14 lol
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>>10717891
Pretty sure that’s just hair?
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>>10717787
Ok ana-chan.
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>>10717890

That is a child, have some boundaries
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>>10718042
Nah dude, lack of bullying what led to this fucked up generation of shamelessly degenerate SJW crybabies.
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>>10718180
Actually kinda the opposite but ok boomer
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>>10717903
He? You they/thems are annoying
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>>10718042
So? Pixie locks was a minor when she got shared into threads. If you’re publicly on TikTok causing drama then you’re bound to be posted on some threads
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saw this in the tags and what the fuck is this lmao
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>>10718185
sorry you got posted! go cry about it on tiktok.
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>>10718280
Kek wut? I think you’re getting senile. But yeah bullying/public shaming actually fuels the problem. Where do you think Jo’s anyone can be kawaii catchphrase came from? Why do you think she has a following? Lor too for that matter. Where do you think these people come from?

When you’re over the top critical, it pushes the platforms of these anything-can-be-Lolita types. Instead of learning from constructive criticism, the unnecessary harshness pushes people straight into the arms of these softies who will never say anything is ita.
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>>10718180
>>10718191

I'm all for shitting on itas but like actual adults. He is quite literally 14 and annoying but that's most kids. Do you really think anyone is paying attention to this drama? It's tiktok, no one takes it seriously

I wasn't around for the pixielocks days, call me a newfag if it makes you feel better
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>>10718304
>>10718296

Can you stfu
Once it’s posted it’s posted. You can bitch and cry all you want
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>>10718304
>he
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>>10718296
Honestly this. But that’s cgl in a nutshell. Creating the problems it likes to bitch about non-stop.
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>>10717903
Sorry you got posted, cope harder



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