Cosplay and Jfash feels go here.I may have to miss an anime day on Saturday because I hurt my coochie. Tried waxing it for the first time ever last night, and didn't know you had to pull the skin tight. I was worried about having steel wool in my cosplay and now I probably can't go at all because my area is too bruised to walk.
Going on a vacation where I'll be in a swimsuit for a few days and I can't decide if I should buy a good quality $100 suit that's not my style but fits well and would last, or go for a cheap suit that might fit but is more along the lines of something I genuinely like in terms of style. The obvious answer should be the higher quality suit but they're all so boring if not ugly.
It makes me sad seeing how shorter women can just wear most lolita pieces comfortably without having to carefully check every measurement.I wouldn't give up my height for it but i do wish brands would cater sizing to taller people rather than people who eat too much.
>>10695253I may be short but I still have to keep an eye on measurements for bust and shoulder sizes. I can't wear most OPs nor salopettes at all.
This is the right thread this time lolI think i gotta sell most of my closet because i finally found what really interests me and it’s not my current style or brand. I have some old moitie and mary magdalene. I hope i dont regret selling them, but they have been sat in my closet for half a year and i want to have things i actually wear
>>10695253Most indie brands cater to you. Anyways as long as japanese women are short they wont ever care about tall ppl, but japanese people are gaining weight so there is that.
>>10695253>>10695261i'm short and i still can't wear any long cut brands put out so consider yourself lucky in the area.
>>10695253how tall are you?
I'm an ita
finally found out the style i wanna wear (i’ve been bouncing between like 3 styles for years now, they’re not jfash tho) problem is i have no money for jp brand. i’ve made some jirai kei looks with stuff i already have in my closet or stuff i’ve bought from western brands but ofc nothing will compare to jp brand. i’m really sad because my bday is coming up and i’d love to have an outfit from like ank rouge or liz lisa but no money. the job i interviewed for said i may start next week but they also said i would start in 2 weeks like 2 weeks ago lol.
>>10695367Happy birthday in advance. However, you need to be 18 to post here.
>>10695247pull the trigger you wont
>>10695253>>10695254this, i'm a shortlita (5'1) but unfortunately my bust is huge anhd i am disqualified from MANY, MANY OPs and JSKs because of bust restrictionsit runs in the family too
>>10695586No one runs in your family
>>10695590i go to the gym, but try again baiter-chan
all the lace market mods are fucking retarded
Hey lolitas/thotsplayers, since you're massive weeaboos for the most part, lrn a new jap recipe. "Hambagu". You're welcome.
>>10695367>jirai keigutto taste, gutto paradaisu, good luck with with your journey to economic aptitude
>>10695616>HambaguPidsa is more my thing
So, this happened to me at last con...I tried to flirt/get laidThree people got annoyed by it and tell that to the securityThe security throws me outAnd since I'm already banned at another con, I was also banned on this oneSo in total, I'm now banned from 4 cons in auszriaMaybe, I get banned at every other con tooAnd I might test how strict they enforce bans
>>10695367Depop has a lot of jirai
I feel bad for selling things I asked my boyfriend to cum on before. They were obviously clean at the time of selling and I'm not about to trash otherwise perfectly fine brand dresses and shoes, but I bet the majority of people wouldn't buy them if they knew.
>>10695629This is really really gross. Please stop
>>10695629>I feel bad for selling things I asked my boyfriend to cum on before.top fucking kek, please elaborate
>>10695629What are you selling please so i can never buy from you
>>10695622Please elaborate on what exactly you do/say when you "flirt" with people
>>10695637We both like it and I don't sell dirty cum encrusted clothes, so I think I'll pass on your offer>>10695652>"Cum on my dress, boyfriend, it will look so cute">Proceeds to cum on said dress>>10695653Nothing currently, I already cleaned out my closet and sold everything I didn't want anymore. You can breathe easy.
>>10695629And this is why I always buy new.
>>10695658It was during the afterpartyWhen the song "I kissed a girl" ended, I said to two girls "now kiss"And when one of those girls complained that it's so hot right now, I said to her, she has to cool down, and that she might be hot, cause she is hotYes I know, I'm a total creep
People who ask dumbass questions on listings NEVER buy I've gotten so many brain dead messages lately asking how much shipping is and how long it takes even though the cost is clearly stated if you would bother to read the listing. If you're too cheap to pay $10 shipping on heavy items don't even bother asking any questions.
>>10695663I honestly would have laughed if someone said that around me but it wouldn't be an invitation, just a pity laugh I have a habit of doing to make others not feel bad for being cringy. I wouldn't call you a creep for that, just a guy trying too hard and failing like some pick-up artist.
Once in a while, I remember and salute BTSSB's contributions to lolita.
>>10695597Sure you do, tubby.
>>10695616jp hamburg steak is literally the same as western “salisbury” steak
Not cosplay related but jesus fucking christ the normalization of scalper culture is so infuriating. Im sick of fat faggots trying to sell the most mundane shit for triple the price.
Please wash your fucking clothes. I just bought a skirt on my local lolita second hand sales. Since the seller was in the same town I met her, face to face, and... The skirt smelled subtly yet noticeably GROSS, and the wash water came out BROWN! I'm so fucking grossed out. The seller told me she had only worn it five times since buying it second hand as well, which means that at least two owners in a row haven't bothered dunking a simple fucking polyester piece of shit in WATER, fuck I'm angry
gained weight over the past month but somehow my bust measurements went down?? doesn't help that the cos i'm planning to wear to an upcoming con is tight and FUCK my stomach is so obvious i hate this i don't want to get labelled as a fattychan. kms.
>>10695741Drink water, do some cardio, you'll be fine. If it's just a month worth of fat you should be able to knock it down.
>>10695723saw a jp grill prepare the hambagu sauce with ketchup, some kind of onions sauce and wine, not sure if this is the proper way
>>10695741if your bust measurement went down and it’s mostly in your stomach then it could be bloating— i know that when i’ve only “gained” in my stomach it’s usually bloating and goes away in a day or two like clockwork. do some exercise, drink plenty of water like the other anon said, and limit salt and starches for a few days, if it’s bloating then that should make it go away.
>>10695741are you gonna get your period soon? I always bloat when I'm about to have it/during it
Any tips on making your period arrive a few days faster? Going on a vacation and I want to get into the pool.
>>10695716>just a pity laughDidn't even get thatBut yeah, I really acted like a creep
>>10695801This is largely a myth. You have to be at least 18 to post here.
>>10695801I've had some luck with taking a shitload of Vitamin C but it's super rough on my stomach. I've also tried and had luck with drinking parsley tea (just dried parsley from the spice aisle wrapped in a coffee filter and steeped). Heads up though that my period was way more painful than usual whenever I brought it on early, but it was worth it to not have it hit during a con.
>>10695801Have you never heard of tampons? What are you, stupid?
>>10695818There's literally no evidence that this does anything. The only thing taking a shit load of vitamin c will do is give you nausea, heartburn, diarrhea, and way too much iron. Don't buy into this old wives tale.
>>10695820Tampons in the pool? No thanks. For the activities they specifically say not to be on your period.
>>10695831Bruh, I did competitive swimming, several hours a week, and we used tampons in the pool. Do you really think the human body wants to let any chlorine water in? Likewise, if the tampon stops you from overflowing there will be no blood coming out. Trust your biology to hold tight.
>>10695831Don’t use tampons, they’re bad for vaginal health and generate waste. Get a diva cup or other brand silicone cup. I swim with it, no problems ever
>>10695256What style are you changing to?
>>10695339By choice or trying to get better?
>>10695629Why would you do this? Are you a tranny?
>>10695831What do you think professional swimmers do, retard
>>10695853>>10695860I'm sorry but I don't want to risk being fined for accidently bleeding in the tank as it's specifically stated. I know my periods and I'm a heavy bleeder and I'm not enough of a rebel to risk it.
>>10695876Then you’re shit out of luck because it’s impossible to just induce a period when you feel like it.
>>10695876What the actual fuck are you talking about?
>>10695801Mugwort and Vitimin C.
>>10695818Suggesting to sleep with a crystal on your stomach would be about as effective as this I swear people will believe anything they read on the internet if pseudo science "medical" websites publish it
>>10695873I just happen to like it and no, I'm a woman. I wouldn't need a boyfriend for that if I was a tranny, and would probably kms anyway.
>>10695870By force of circumstances, I guess. I can only wear opaque stockings and long sleeves, so I feel like it's difficult for me to put together very good coords. I'm always wishing I could just wear what I want to wear, but I try to do my best regardless of my limitations
>>10695247I think if I had a /cgl/ gf I would probably spoil her rotten ngl.
a cool friend i met at a con is snapchatting me and im heavily fucking autistic and afraid to reply
>>10695959wear otks over tights? and wear longsleeved ops
>>10695876Take birth control to avoid this situation in the future. Or stop whining like a bitch and get a diva cup and test it in the bath or something. They even make disposable menstrual cups these days.
>>10695973>talking to girl from 4chan>she wants to meetup irl>delete my discord
>*Altered*More like ruined~
>>10695249Honestly I’d go for the cheap one. I’d rather have something I like and feel good in over something functional but boring/ugly, but that’s just me. If you’ll only be wearing it on occasion it’ll take a while to wear it out anyway.
>>10695721I fucking love Baby so much i want to cry this is so wonderful
I want to sell most of my wardrobe and buy Vivienne Westwood but I’m scared I’ll really regret it? I know I’ll feel better when I do it, but still.
>>10696216Why are Lolitas like thisWhy can't you just keep your wardrobe and buy VW
>>10696046we're in this socially inept retardation together, soup
i look FUCKING JARRING in lolita oh my god. i wore platforms for a halloween coord and my waist was at my friend's shoulders, and my legs looked uncannily long. never touching platforms with lolita again
>>10696224Space and decluttering. I live in a small apartment in a large city. I only have so much space for clothes. I have around 50 dresses which is pretty excessive considering how little I wear Lolita anymore. Other styles excite me more lately and I feel more comfortable in them. I’ve been into it for years and built up my wardrobe over time, so it’s hard to let go of something I put so much time and effort into. I’ll keep a small handful of dresses though, maybe 5?
>>10696227Christ how tall are you or how short is your friend?
>>10696226at least I got my cats. you got any cats anon?
>bought dress with no problems>looking back at listing photos and notice several tiny stains on the dress>Seller does not mention them at all in descriptionIt’s my fault for not looking closely but Jesus at least say something about it. I’m really hoping it’s food and not blood.
This isn't bait, although it may seem like it, but I'm killing myself soon. I don't have enough time or energy to put together a shit ton of LM listings, wait for people to buy my clothes and then ship them out to each person individually. My family won't bother with this either. How can I quickly sell off my wardrobe all at once? Don't have any lolita friends to give it away to, don't have friends period.
>>10696291>killing myself soon.Kill yourself in Minecraft
>>10696291why are you big sad anon
>>10696292I could always do that in addition to killing myself in real life, need to install Minecraft first>>10696293Things started looking up for me for the first time ever, then life went to shit in almost an instant and now I have no future ahead of me. Sorry soup, see you on the flip side.
>>10696294Well i hope things suddenly look better for you soon and you don’t kill yourself. But it must have been really difficult for you to come to this conclusion. I am sorry nonny.But if you must then i guess just do big lots of brand and auction it
>>10696294>I have no future ahead of meI dunno it cant be that bad right. Just pick a different path it might not be the one you really wanted but at it's something.
>>106962515'10, and was wearing 4.5 inch platforms. she's 5'3
>>10696291anon, im sorry, i hope things start looking up for you soon. it might seem hopeless at the moment but if you're totally at rock bottom you can only go up from there.
>>10696306This image came to mind
>>10696283yeah i have a cat and a dog :)
>>10696310comfy. you got pics?
I miss seeing other lolitas excited over new releases. I miss having new releases worth being excited over. I miss the celebratory feeling that comes with lolita. The feeling of "if I'm all dressed up, I must be heading towards an event or doing something fun. I can look forward to good things."
Sort of brag but whatever. I lost even more weight which is great! except now i am annoyed at what i found. My small size IW blouses are looking very wrinkly and weird on me along with some of my other burando. Even my fucking old moitie is looking a size too big.I guess it really is the fatty fashion lol. Maybe i need to become a clolita.i don’t know if i want to tailor everything, because thats a lot of tailoring. maybe i should sell it and buy things that fit better. I am not even close to skeletal so i’m just like why lol
>>10696291You can give it to me. I'm poor and disabled and probably won't ever be able to afford much. Still hope you're not going to kill yourself though Nonny
>>10696293Probably because you deleted your discord and ghosted her you monster
>>10696332you can’t make jokes when someone is big sad anon. I WISH THAT ANON WOULD RESPOND AND TELL US WHY THO
>>10696329I'm happy for you anon! I've been dropping a lot of weight too thankfully but at a speed where I'm wondering if it was just waterweight or actual fat. It's been two months so I think I should be passed the waterweight point?
>>10696291>but I'm killing myself soon.No you're not. Are you really so starved for attention? You do this every thread.
>>10696291Don't do it anon. We can talk. Just don't do it.
Some guy was trying to hit on me while i was wearing gothic and he told me that my black rectangle headdress looked amish. I was visibly confused and thanked him anyway but he knew it kinda offended me lolJust ?????
>>10696291I hate to be unsympathetic but why do you care about getting money for it if that's your end goal? Put it up for free if you want it gone quick. Unless you want money for your family or something. If the killing yourself thing is just a guise for wanting to know how to sell quick then that part wasn't necessary. If it isn't bait then nonny, it means probably nothing from a rando on cgl but I hope things change in a direction that lets you see a way out.
Not the suicide anon but in a similar boat. I tried to start selling things in September, priced things low hoping they would move. I sold a few things sporadically, but it got to the point where is was too painful to get rid of clothing I searched and waited so long for with no one willing to bite. Even selling my whole wardrobe would not even be close to what I need to turn my life around, and it's mostly brand. I was always going to be too poor to have lolita friends, but dressing up is one of the few things I still enjoy in life.Not close to anyone right now, I've distanced myself from my closest friends for years now so there isn't even anything to miss. My family hasn't wanted anything to do with me for a long time. Things were looking up and I ruined it all with the choices I made. Maybe I could request to be buried in my dream dress, but I can't imagine anyone throwing down for a funeral for me.
>>10695629Disgusting but as long as it's clean idc
damn it i went to another con and i still cant talk to other people
Got passed over for a promotion and quit my job today and feeling nothing but good about it. I'll have to start looking for something new tomorrow, but I can't be bothered to keep working for a company that wants to treat me like shit.
never even considered i would be into old school when I started wearing lolita, but here i am wearing it nearly daily while my huge sweet wardrobe rots because I'm obsessed
>>10696352But what if? Your actions have consequences, soup
>biting my nails to the point of destroying the nail bedWhy the duck do I do these things
Went on a family drive to los angeles last weekend and stopped by little tokyo. My Successful 30+ year old sister remembers that a comic con is coming soon and she wants to look for “cosplay” in those japanese stores. I don’t really care because she’s the type who will intend to do stuff but will never follow through, like the fitness diet/regime that she stopped after a few months after adopting a disabled dog out of the blueBack to the little tokyo segment, we left with nothing because she felt all the clothes are “too small”. I thought to myself ‘pfffft maybe because youre overweight bordering on mild obesity, shouldnt have stopped those gym and boxing classes and ordering 3 ala cartes minimum + dessert at a restaurant’. She should just buy some $5 cat hairband and wear to the con andjust call it a day
>>10696636Interesting, there was a heavyset woman shopping around that is decently dressed in lolita that she probably sewn herself
>>10696622she replied to my post with an angry animu girl. it's fine
>>10696291Bait or not please don't do it anon. There is more to life and it does get better.
>>10696535that's okay. Soon you'll realize 80% of the people there are a decade younger than you and you don't really wanna know the gossip of the local high schools/colleges. And everyone your age is too busy and don't need more friends
>>10695959Wear dance tights, they're opaque enough to block pretty much anything and come in a billion colors so you can match your skin color closely enough that most people won't even notice they're tights. A lot of cosplayers use them when they want to wear a revealing costume without actually revealing anything.
cosplay feel?>middle of nowhere on the way to a con, hick area, have to piss>in full cosplay, obscure magical girl>finally find a gas station >absolute struggle trying to go to the bathroom with the costume on>no soap>guy getting out of his truck shouts "SAILOR MOON" at me and tries to look up my skirt very visibly >nervous laugh-noise reply because it's not sailor moon and i don't know what the fuck to say>slam the car door, speed the fuck away
>>10696748 forgot to say i was leaving the gas station and getting in my car when the dude yelled but that's probably inferred
>>10695247TMI due to you having TLI
>>10695876Don't you know when you are getting you period? If you did you could easily book your holiday around it and not be in this situation.
>>10696748This is why I pretty much never cosplay unless I've got a hotel room at the con. Shit usually looks shitty after sitting in a car anyway.
>>10695801the only possible reason i can imagine for a rule against periods excluding wearing tampons/cups would be if anon is trying to go like. shark diving. please tell me you are gonna jump in a shark tank. i want to believe. also, get on birth control and tricycle so you can control whenever it arrives. Plan B sometimes can make your period earlier or later but I wouldn't count on it or doubling/tripling normal birth control pills as it can be unpredictable.
Going to a con next weekend and panicking. Making good progress on my cosplay but its starting to feel too real and now Im anxious
>>10695247>tfw intentionally disclose that I'm a moid on /cgl/ and various threads mostly women congregate in because I enjoy the attention I get from them saying "kys moid"
I have a few days back to back of interning and other stuff that requires me dress a certain way now, I just want it to be weekend already so I can wear clothes that make me happy.
>trying to look at review photos for a pleated skirt to gauge if it's decent>nobody has bothered to iron it so it's wrinkled and deformed in every almost single image>only photo that's been ironed is dark and grainy
Genuinely thinking of quitting lolita fashion after a year and some change of actually being able to afford my wardrobe. Call me a covidlita, i don't care. I LOVE my wardrobe, it makes me so happy. I have dream dresses i've wanted since middle school, a great variety of blouses, shoes, bags, socks, even an usakumya. yet, I never wear it. i live in an area in Texas that is extremely unsafe. it's the kind of place you can get shot while walking down the street in your own neighborhood. the guy across the street and one house over had his house broken into and his wife raped and killed last week. a girl was shot dead one street over. the park is permanently closed because there was too much gang activity in the area and a girl got executed during the day a year ago. i hate it here. I don't have a car, work full time, don't have the physical or mental energy after working to go to school, and I live with my husband (who lost his job RIGHT after we got married and hasn't had work since). i love him to bits, he's a lovely man, and he also gets irrationally pissed even just driving down the street because the people here don't know how to drive and we get into car accidents almost daily (and we've been hit and run by an 18 wheeler before, so we both have ptsd from that). so even when i want to make plans to go somewhere, i think about how stressful it is to leave the house, how there's no place i can go, how i always feel like i'm in a rush to leave when i'm with him because all he ever wants to do is stay home and in his room. the only times I've been to the park/garden about 20 min from here in lolita, i had a bunch of hispanic families taking pictures of me and shouting at me while I was just trying to sit down and eat, and one lady asked if I was selling balloons for her kids. lol i specify hispanic because I don't speak spanish and it's extremely anxiety inducing having my pictures taken while I'm trying to relax on my 1 day off by people I can't communicate with.
>>10696959sounds like you need therapy and probably a new husband. Sell the dresses to afford some therapy and make your life happier.
samefag, i should also say that because i don't have a car and because where we live is so dangerous, i can't go anywhere by myself. my husband is with me 100% of the time except when i'm at work (in retail, where i have to wear a boring as fuck t shirt and pants uniform). the last time we went out and i was in a coord, i did have a lot of fun, but he got super anxious because the store we were in had really small aisles and it was busy (sunday), and after all that he didn't even take pictures of me that day because he forgot. :( he also complains that i take too long to get ready, so that's another reason i get anxious about leaving the house in lolita. i don't even do a lot of makeup, it takes me maybe an hour in total to get ready to go. anyway, i would love to take coord shots and post them online, but i've been struggling with severe depression and just can't bring myself to want to participate in tiktok/instagram/facebook shit, it's all so fake and clout chase-y, i don't want followers or attention, i don't want associated with the pronoun gendie crowd, i've been harassed on my art account simply for not having BLM shit in my profile (seriously)... i'm done with online spaces. i just want to be left alone, but i feel so extremely lonely because i'm not a part of any communities, and the local comm here is super clique-y and cringey and full of itas. I've met a few irl at a con, and they were literally talking about nothing but their gender identities/gender envy over my hero acadamia characters and sex toys. y u c k.any other lonelitas here who want to email or something? should i just sell my wardrobe and forget about lolita fashion since it doesn't work with my lifestyle? i'm so tired. it's all so tiresome. i just want to be cute, go places a few times a month, take cute pics of myself or have my husband do so since life is short and i just want to feel pretty sometimes and have fun... instead i'm stuck inside 99% of the time while life passes me by...
>>10696959Sell up then move somewhere safer and new. Never look back. Work your way up in your career and you will be able to buy pieces again before you know it. Drop the dead weight while you are at it.
>>10696959I don't think you should quit it if you still love the fashion despite your circumstances. Instead, keep your wardrobe and save it when you are able to enjoy them. In the meantime, go to the shooting range, there's often discounts for women, learn how to use a gun and get your license. Buy one and protect yourself when you go out. If you're going to be attacked, best to do as much damage as you can. Most attackers do it out of wanting to induce fear and control. It confuses them and throws them off if you act otherwise and even if they do manage to take you out, leave em with a scar, broken fingers, busted nut, missing eye. Whatever it takes, plus you'll look great. Get into active shape while you're at it and maybe you can beat his ass.
>>10696961well sure, i guess i do need therapy. i just don't know how i'm supposed to afford it. i've thought this out. if i sell everything i have, I'd have maybe 3k. i make about 2k a month already. i have about 1.4k in bills monthly. after all is said and done, i have about $600 worth of spending money after that. therapists around me are all around $60-80/hr. if I get 2 hours worth of therapy twice a week which has been suggested to me, that's $240 spent only to talk to someone for help. and i can't drive there, and i don't have public transportation in my area (and no sidewalks either), so that's about a $40 uber charge on top of that. I can't spend $280/week and have maybe $300 left in my bank account each month. with the 3k I'd get from my wardrobe, I technically could buy a used car, but I could not afford the upkeep/tires/inspection/oil changes/insurance.>>10696965I don't logically see myself ever having the money to move (including safety deposits, what people are charging for rent nowdays, gas/water/electric, etc), and I can't afford a divorce. I do love him and want to see him get better, but due to a poor stint in a shitty mental health facility, he's not interested in taking medication for his condition (general anxiety disorder brought on by stress). We live with his parents, one of which is about to retire, and they don't financially support me at all. We're more like roommates.>>10696966I actually have a license to carry :) can't carry at work (my job will fire you if you bring any self defense weapons to work) but i do carry when I go out. it's an awful area I live in, gangbangers drive around with tinted windows & shit, and I've been followed home after having to walk to the corner store once for medicine and soup. i dressed like a guy and covered my face/hair w a hoodie but they could still tell i was a woman & followed me. i got inside safely and called the cops but got no help. i didn't leave the house for a week.
>>10696978>I actually have a license to carry :)Nice! >can't carry at workI used to be in a similar situation. One of my jobs was the same way, you couldn't even keep pepper spray. Almost got mugged on my way home from work but I chased after the guys and this was in a nicer area too. I didn't catch them but they ended up dropping my purse while after them and I got my stuff back. That shit sucks but it's something that can happen almost anywhere and you're right, cops don't really help much in these situations so the best you can do is be prepared. I wish you luck but don't let others be the reason you can't enjoy lolita.
>>10696981right! and this adds to the fact that my husband drives me everywhere. i've been followed, catcalled, and had my old car broken into and the radio and my ID stolen a few years ago. cops did nothing. i'm thinking of getting an under-the-shirt holster when i go to work, but i'm afraid of getting found out since there are bag/clothing checks when you leave due to the nature of the business. thanks for your advice and kindness :)
>>10696983I don't know if it's the same where you are, but security here is half assed. I carry a knife with me in a little My Melody coin purse that has tampons in it. When they search, they just see the bag and think nothing of it and even if they open it, they just see the tampons first. Won't help with metal detectors of course and this is only if you know they're half assed. If they were to find it and ask, just apologize and say you forgot you had that in there, you carry it for protection. Offer for them to hold onto it while you're in the building and you can pick it up when you leave. The more polite you are, the less suspicious of you they'll be and most law enforcement already know the potential dangers women have to go through. Another possibility is to be upfront with HR about your situation and why you feel unsafe, work out what you can do, and even if they deny it, get it in writing. So that if something does happen, go to the media (or have your husband do it if you don't make it.) They'll love a story on how this business inadvertedly caused the death/injury of an employee because they didn't allow her to protect herself and proof that you tried to work with them beforehand with a plan.
>>10695490thank you anon, i’m almost twenty tho. :( but i’m probably “too old” for the fashion anyways it seems most jirai kei girls were born in 03-07. three jirai kei girls i know of are all 14/15 and cringey as fuck so maybe it’s best i’m not associated with that.
If I see someone wearing this in public I'm beating them with my Rocking horse shoes
>>10697016>almost 20>too old>emojisanon i mean this in the most loving way possible, stop being a retardtwenty isn’t too old for any (alt) fashion, hell 30 isn’t. it’s all about aesthetics, as long as you aren’t offensively ugly or visibly poorly aged (which I doubt because you’re fucking 19) nobody cares. jirai is literally just basic bitch alt jfash, grow some ‘nads and do what you want, stupid.
>>10697019is it really basic bitch? i mean i know it’s popular in japan but i rarely ever see anyone outside there do it. personally i like that everyone looks the same, i know it makes me a faggot.
>>10696959Sounds like you are having way bigger problems than not wearing your lolita. Get out of there asap. Can't really get worse, just move anywhere else. And you should better overthink your relationship too
>>10697017I'd buy one just to get beat up by you anon
>>10697021i mean i see a shit ton of popular weeb e-girls on my page that are basically wearing jirai fashion with dumber makeup. not many people call it jirai in the west but mentally ill weeb fashion isn’t new. jirai is like the new turbo-zoomer sister of creepy-cute, pastel goth, menhera, and mass production.and i don’t mean any of that in a negative way, but yeah it’s basic as hell and that makes it accessible and easy to coordinate as long as you have eyes
I had a weird dream last night that someone could see the names and info of people posting on cgl despite them not being visible or anything and were replying with my name to my posts and others with their names. No one was saying anything mean or wrong but it was freaky.
>>10696986Never ever ever ever say you’re carrying a knife for protection. Always say it’s for utility, or just refuse to give a reason altogether. Saying it’s for protection allows police to classify it as a weapon, which opens a whole legal can of worms. Not talking out of my ass, you can google this. This is for burgerland, not sure about other countries.
>>10697073Good to know, thanks for the correction.
>>10697017Why ruin cute art with gender special bullshit?
>Get a bonus at work for being a good little worker bot>Buy a bunch of lolita shit on LM>Livingthelolitadream.jpeg>Mfw when I get a bunch of messages from randos asking to buy the things I just bought.For God's sake, just stop. Let me enjoy my things in peace.
>want to get better at sewing actual clothing because all my experience is self taught cosplay stuff so it's very "hacky">considering going to classes>all the classes near me (NYC area) are way too entry level ("learn a sewing machine!")I want to get more into making actual clothing for daily wear because it seems like a better use of my time but commercial patterns fit like dogshit since I work out. I want to get better at pattern drafting and gauging what pattern will produce what clothing result. Also considering getting a mannequin, but all the men's adjustable ones are fucking dummy pricy (like ~$300)
>>10697105damn, is this a thing that happens often on lm? i can't believe you have to deal with that, i'm so sorry anon
I came back to the fashion after a ~8 year hiatus, back when rashel lace was unquestionably ita and rectangle headresses were out of the question. I'm having trouble adjusting to the new standards, weirdly enough.
>>10697023jeez soup, I didn't know you were into that
>>10697116Check your local community college to see if they have a sewing class? Or a theater program, they usually have a costuming course. Your construction will be emmaculate.
>>10697017it's sad that a button makes your tiny brain hurt and lash out in violence anon.I pity you
>>10697143years of being called retarded by gulls changed me
>>10697017Closest I ever saw so far, were shopping bags in gay-pride-flag design
>>10697024it is basic (in jp) but I just meant like is it really basic if western zoomers haven’t gotten their grubby hands on it? i haven’t seen any of these popular weeb girls you’re talking about, if anything i feel like it overlaps with western girly style.
>>10697153I pity you and anyone who feels the need to shove their weird pronoun gender garbage into every single thing.
>>10697153What's sad is getting death threats from retarded enby women just because you call them women.
This board makes me so miserable. I keep visiting out of some retarded fear I'm gonna miss out on good advice, but all the lolita threads are just filled with bitches who wanna stir shit up. I'm constantly scared of looking ita. My coords never look as good as the ones that get posted on insta and twitter so I keep spending more money finding accessories to perfect my coords. I used to wear my dresses out but my coords are so basic bitch that normies don't even realize it's an alt fashion. They think all my AP is just cute handmade dresses. But when I make more OTT coords, I'd see someone rip apart a similar coord as ita. I'm starting to think I just have shit taste. There's no comms nearby to give feedback because I live in the bumfuck conservative south
>>10697245'Basic coords' are fine if that's what you like and are comfortable with. I hardly ever wear loads of accessories when I'm just wearing Lolita out and about doing normie things. Maybe try comparing yourself to others less? The Lolitas you see on insta are only a small part of the people who actually wear the fashion, and chances are a lot of them just get dressed up to take pictures inside their houses and take it all off again.
>>10697153It's a slippery slope
>>10697245When it comes to lolita on /cgl/ it's hyper fixated on being the absolute best and a veteran so don't take it too seriously and remember half the posters here are men that are just trying to poke the bee's hive and make other anons fight with each other.
>>10697245This board rarely has anything good anymore except the DIY threads and occasional interesting photo dumps. Lolita threads have become, even more so than before, derailment about someone being fat or poor or railing against people who’ve done nothing wrong aside from post coord pics on the internet. Plenty of fine coordinates get ripped apart here, largely because of who’s wearing them. Take everything with a grain of salt, no pun intended. This board is where alt women come to be unnecessarily catty under the guise of “good harsh concrit.” This board is truly unique in how miserable, spiteful, and unfunny its posters are. Truly up there with /r9k/. I keep coming back and posting in hopes it gets better, but it doesn’t.All that to say, don’t be a retard and quit because of other faceless retards. If you like it, do it, if you don’t, don’t. It’s that easy.
>>10697294I think the same problem exists all over 4chan these days. This place used to be its own self-contained community but in the last few years it's turned into a place where people from other forums, discord, facebook, etc. come for the sole purpose of saying shit they can't say on their main sites. On most of 4chan that boils down to political and racial edgelordery but on /cgl/ it's lolitas coming here to anonymously talk shit on other lolitas. I've been here since the beginning and I have nothing against lolita in general, I actually really like the fashion, but I miss the days when it was mostly a cosplay and con talk board.
>>10697245Dude, literally who cares what anyone says. I can't believe you wear lolita out and yet are scared of ~anonymous~Get a grip and don't think /cgl/ is real life. 4chan in general has always been and forever will be a shithole.
>>10697245anon, i was the same way when i started using this board, but honestly it doesn't matter. nobody in real life is gonna call you an ita for the kind of minute details cgl picks coords apart for. it's made me so much happier to just stop comparing myself to perfect instagram lolitas and view it as an actual everyday fashion to wear outside. as long as you're not terminally ita, it doesn't matter- especially because you don't live near many other lolitas to compare to irl.also don't put any emotional stake in arguments on here, and don't take salty gulls seriously to the point where you let it affect your mood.
>>10697302accurate. literally everyone and everyone has a bad opinion of something or someone and it's purely subjective. Once you have it in your mind, it's just one shit head that doesn't like it then it doesn't matter.Even if it's multiple. If you wear lolita, you need thicker skin because people are going to make fun of you on the street and ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTH.
>>10697311>especially in the southi don’t doubt your experience but as a texas gull i’ve only had people be nice irl? i think the only negative experience was tweens lol and they don’t even count because they’re not full humans yet. you in bumfuck Georgia or something?
>>10697316Texas is generally a bit different than the rest of the south. But no, the majority of other states aren't 'nice south.'
my ex that i dated for 5 months did a number on me before i dumped him. Fuck him. He criticized my lolita and would say I looked innocent, submissive, and like a schoolgirl. And made excuses when i told him not to say that to me. I felt horrible. Now I feel so shitty and want to give up lolita. because i’m still depressed by the stuff he did to me, that nothing makes me feel happy. I look at my closet and feel barely anything about it.but lolita made me so so happy before. I want to go back to how it was before i dated my ex. I think i have to give it some time. It’s only been a few weeks since i dumped that son of a bitch. I will never go back to him and i am not talking to him. I really hope it gets better for me and i start feeling happiness again. I think it will. I just wish it happened faster.
>>10697316I'm in a city in Texas and they either tend to be really into your outfit or not and rude af about it, there's no in between.
>>10697350Get into FDS and never settle for a pornsick scrote again. You’ll hurt for a bit, but now is not the time to give up lolita. The way I’ve always gotten over breakups is by diving deep into my hobbies. I think right now you just need some time and maybe something else to occupy your mind since you’re still hurting. Pick up a hobby you’ve always had your eye on, or just dive deep into one you’ve put down. But once enough time passes and you get over him and start feeling more anger than sadness, take a look at lolita with fresh eyes. Your perspective may change once you stop giving a shit about his garbage opinion.If he made you feel that bad then i can GUARANTEE you will feel better in the future. It will take time, but I promise in 10 years that you will never look back and regret it.
>>10697350I don't wanna sound like a pickme but holy shit anon I really hate being the same sex as people like thisWhy are men so horrible?
Need your help gulls. Give me your nastiest ideas to make my coworkers life a living hell. She bullied my nice coworker into quitting.
>>10697350What else did he do to you?
>>10697370Not without the full story.
>>10697365Thanks I’ll try this. I used to like playing piano so I’ll do that. I will be patient and give myself time. He did a bait and switch on me. He presented himself as a stand up guy and then the horribleness crept in slowly. That and i was a dumb bitch who thought i needed to tough it out.>>10697366Yeah i’m not dating for a while. Some people are just really horrible. It was only my 2nd relationship so i didn’t know how or what to do, but now i know foe the future>>10697374He pushed me to do things he saw in porn that would hurt me and he would show me porn pics. Didn’t care if i was hurting physically and kept doing it.Kept asking me to send him nude pics in my lolita (which i never did thank god.). Told me that i looked innocent/schoolgirl in front of my family. Would yell at me suddenly instead of talking if something bothered him. Stopped showing me affection. He gaslit me if I tried to talk to him how unacceptable this was. He would say that he really cared so much about me.Sounds retarded to date someone like that right? he was very nice and seemed like a really good guy in the beginning. I knew him for a year before dating him and everyone thought he was cool. and then he changed into this fucking degenerate . which made me think maybe i was actually crazy. i kept hoping he’d change back to how he was. but eventually i caught on. And can you believe he actually was about to cry when i dumped him and he couldn’t comprehend at all how he treated me shitty.
>>10697401kinda sounds like he’s an NPD-fag. same thing happened to me, they lure you in by pretending to be amazing and mirroring everything you think you’d want in a partner and then they slowly start pulling crazy people shit. but it goes so gradually and fills you with so much self doubt that you can’t get out until it’s too late.it hurts like hell and nobody should have to be abused by these fuckers, but i guarantee in a couple years you’ll be a looooooooot stronger from it. after that you shouldn’t make the same mistake twice and your red flag radar should be honed pretty well.>t. gull whose retard npd ex dated her for her appearance, then flipped a switch and started accusing her of “attracting pedophiles” for wearing lolita and getting his entire family to corner me and shame me for it>shitty ex also called me before a brand fashion show to yell at me, call me a whore, and accuse me of “cheating with people backstage” (whack) so i would cry and look bad on stage, because he couldn’t stand not being my center of attentionamong 300 other shitty things
>>10697401He totally could comprehend how shitty he was to you and was only playing victim in an attempt to get you back and abuse you moreHappy that you left him, hope you a good recovery from this horrible experience
>>10697401One of my ex's did something similar. When I got into lolita he would beg and try to pull me into having sex with him while wearing it and got pissed when I told him no. Then argued that I loved my dresses more than I loved him. Same with cosplay, I spent months making my outfits and their not even skimpy. But he always begged to fuck in them. There were other things that he did but that was the last straw. He now calls me a crazy prude bitch behind my back. Sometimes I really wish I was a lesbian.
>>10697401>>10697405Yeah well if parasitic crazy people didn't hide their crazy then we would avoid them. But even with normal people there are things we don't see or show until we're very close. I mean nobody is as dreamy as appearances suggest.
>>10697105>messages from randos asking to buy the things I just boughtThis is unironically mentally ill. Like, why did you think I bought those items?! By accident?
>>10697407Would you fuck in cosplay if he'd made it for you? Or in clothes he'd bought for you because he liked them?
>>10697411If he was able to sew anything period, I'd be proud as fuck of him. But no, I wouldn't because I'm not not into roleplay sex and I wouldn't want to ruin something he worked hard on. If he wants me to wear something sexy I have lingerie I bought myself for that.
>>10697413You women should start demanding that countries bring back mandatory military service. Men learn the basics of sewing and cleaning there out of necessity.I'm asking about the dressing up someone because there are various looks I love but buying clothes I like and telling a gf to wear it for my pleasure feels like I'm playing with my flesh Barbie. "It puts the pedal pusher pants and low heel sandals on or it gets the hose again."
>>10697416Why do women have to demand it? If you want it, rally up your fellow men to demand for it. Personally I'm against mandatory military service for anyone but I agree everyone should learn the basics of sewing and cleaning in schools like they used to. By the time I got to high school they removed home economics from my town. As for dressing up for the pure fun of it, that doesn't sound bad at all just let her do the same to you if she wants. Be /fa/ together.
>>10696963Leave your husband and keep the clothes. What an absolute piece of shit to hassle you about time to get ready, when he has you living in an unsafe area. Contact some friends and family to come rescue you before you get murdered in your shitty work outfit. Also wanted to repeat your husband sounds like a fucking deadbeat
>>10697420The army isn't half the fun you think it is. You work like a slave to maintain the infrastructure for around 6$ a month and the officers hide complaints and problems because they will show in their records and affect their promotions. I'm saying women should lobby for it because they are the ones who would benefit from it. Men hate it. Suicide isn't unheard of and I even found a noose one time while on butt duty.
>>10697409Right? It's so fucking rude
>>10697424I still fail to see why you and other men can’t lobby for it yourself. I unfortunately don’t care enough to do it for you and i’m sorry the army sucks. I’d actually benefit from men being proactive enough to do things themselves and not rely on me to be their new mommy however
>>10697426I can't lobby for a policy that is already in effect in my country. I just gave advice for the benefit of women. But I guess men will have to fight to affect change for your benefit as always.
>>10697427I didn’t ask you to do anything dude. it’s your choice if you want to do things ‘for our benefit’ i literally don’t care if you do or don’t and also i don’t think it would benefit me anyway. Stop trying to blame things on other people. You can certainly get in touch with groups trying to make a change if that’s what YOU want.
>>10697424>The army isn't half the fun you think it is.I...never said it was? I said I'm again mandatory military service because I'm well aware how fucked being in service can be. Why would I want to rally to push others to be put through something like that? >I'm saying women should lobby for it because they are the ones who would benefit from it. Men hate it. Suicide isn't unheard of and I even found a noose one time while on butt duty.Sorry but that sounds pretty fucked up and doing something like that would only cause more hate toward women from the men that don't want to do it. Why would you want that? >>10697427>Talks about the horrors of being in the military>Wants women to force men into these horrors>"I guess men will have to make other men suffer because you don't want them to."?????
>>10697428>>10697429Hold on. Who posted which post?
>>10697433I'm >>10697429 and >>10697420, >>10697413, etc. These posts >>10697426 and >>10697428 is another anon.
>>10697437Okay. I have this thing where I give people the best advice I can even to my detriment. It's a comment turned unsolicited advice but we're here to vent and shoot the shit anyway. I guess men and society would benefit from it too in small ways but I don't want people to think I'm trying to get others to do my work for me.>>10697426>>10697428You put a cork in it.
>>10697440>put a cork in itLol are you 55? You know you can say shut the fuck up right?
>>10697441Everyone tells you to shut the fuck up. I thought I'll stand out.
>>10697440kinda cute, for a moid
>>10697440Sorry but the other anon you're telling to put a cork in, pretty much said the same thing I did. Vent as much as you like, that's fine but point is if you want change for something, you shouldn't tell others to do it for you and then try to say "I guess we'll have to do it ourselves." We hear enough of "men have to do everything, women do nothing" while pretending women haven't fought tooth and nail for their own benefits and continue to do so. I'm done with you.
>>10697442Yeah, you stood out by sounding like a retarded grandma. Do you have alzheimers so bad that you couldn’t formulate a response besides telling me to shush lol
bought a baby wool coat for winter and originally thought it was the 2021 little princess coat bc i didn’t hunt through lolibrary. turns out it’s the 2005 melody coat release and even though i know that’s not particularly rare, it’s nice to have an older release especially because it’s in near perfect condition (only flaw is it’s missing the fur on the pockets). mine is the b/w color way and the lace is absolutely gorgeous. it’s pretty big around the waist but if i attach the waist tie thing to two of the front buttons then it doesn’t look comically oversized.
>>10697462DESU that's not great, even if you think it's getting the old school cred--it's really not. Coats tend to get worn out a lot more from weather conditions, so they typically get a lot of piling and wear along with on the fur.Coats also aren't very attractive second hand, either. And especially not old ones. So I'm not sure how you are finding this appealing, because I don't think anyone is going to be envious of an old worn out coat.
>>10697464Wtf is your problem nonny lol nobody said anything about old school cred. Coats aren’t attractive secondhand? So we all supposed to wait for the once a year or so that burando releases coats and hope it’s one that we like?>>10697462That is so cute, i’ve been looking for a coat too so just waiting for the right one to pop up
>>10697464nonnie I’m not talking about old school cred, I’m talking about the fact that a coat from 16 years ago that’s in near-perfect condition is a good find! the whole point is that it ISN’T worn out, which I’m very happy about. I don’t need people to be envious of me lol I’m just glad because generally something lasting 16 years with no visible wear is a sign that it’ll hold up nicely in the future.
>>10697350> I think i have to give it some time.Def, it will get better. Don't despair, nonny!
>>10697298>I think the same problem exists all over 4chan these days. This place used to be its own self-contained community but in the last few years it's turned into a place where people from other forums, discord, facebook, etc. come for the sole purpose of saying shit they can't say on their main sites.Yes, this, definitely. I know it's not like it has any use but know at least one anon agrees with you, nonny.Unfortunately it's pretty understandable because other places just get more and more restrictive with what you're allowed to say.
>be into vkei since 13>realized I could never do it because no access to any kind of fashion and wearing makeup as a boy is gonna get me even more bullied (thanks eastern europe)>parents wouldn't pay for music lessons so I can become a musician>couldn't even learn Japanese because internet didn't have the resources>became emo instead which was a thing here and I loved it>was looking really good, felt amazing about myself>grew up into a fat, suicidal piece of shit failure neckbeard who cries all day>rediscover vkei randomly one day>realize how much of a monster I look like. Literally a fat, hairy, balding 27 year old man who plays games all day and works the most low-energy shit paying job>decide it's time to do something now and at least feel better about myself>fail miserably (been "trying" for a year now)>been completely single with like 2-3 friends for the past 4 years incapable of even liking anyoneI've been staring at the stuff online, gathered tons of info just like an autist, started frequenting this board, keep trying to motivate myself and in all this time I lost a bit of weight and then gained it all back + some extra. Gonna kms probably, soon. I can't do anything right, everSorry for this post...
>>10697517my best advice is to take a class or get really into some hobby to break you out of the cycle you’re in. see if any colleges near you offer cheap Japanese classes, or take up a specific sport that you’re excited about (this will help you get some exercise and also mean you’re working at something, seeing improvements in a hobby feels really good). video games are fun but there’s almost no way to not get depressed when you’re playing them all day every day. also, make sure you’re drinking enough water and getting some fresh air every day. vitamin d supplements might help too, some of my friends have had depression really improve with them.yes this is all generic, but if you’re not doing these things on a semi-regular basis then you’ll definitely feel better if you do them. also, 27 is still young so you definitely have the potential to turn things around.also idk to what degree this is true, but I’ve heard people say that motivation isn’t the key to success, discipline is. it’s a mindset that has helped me stay consistent with my goals even when i lose my motivation to pursue them.
>>10697517Progress takes time anon. It won't be overnight and there will be setbacks. But if you keep at it little by little you can get closer to achieving your goals. Try to set small milestones for yourself so you don't feel like you're trying to climb some insurmountable mountain. Cut yourself some slack, keep your chin uup, and remember to congratulate yourself when you do make progress.Try not to get discouraged and give up when you fail. You can fail once or even a thousand times but what matters most is that you keep getting back up.
>>10697462Good for you nonnie I hope you enjoy your new coat. It's great that you scored an older one in such good condition! Don't listen to >>10697464 they clearly have sand stuck in their crotch and want everyone else to be as miserable as they are kek.
>>10697522>>10697525I really appreciate itI forgot to add I actually did manage to learn Japanese since I became an adult. That's basically the only good thing I ever did for myself.I need to find consistency somehow but I keep trying for so long and literally haven't succeeded even once.I start waking up early, going outside, eating healthy, and then 1 week later I'm back to square 1...I'll try again and again and maybe I'll succeed somehow. I'm at the point where I literally do everything in my power to cover up as much as possible when going outside because I hate myself so much I can't bear the thought of another human looking at me. Thank goodness for masks and autumn. I really hope I won't end up doing sudoku...
>>10697529do translation workjoin a gym and find a physical activity you like doing that you'll keep doing because it's fun join a local club around that activitydont diet, just stop eating shit or eating out 24/7. cook healthy meals it's pretty easy drink water and only water
>>10697245But that's good not being stared at in public or getting unwanted attention. Many strive for that. You should give us advice lol
>>10697424Then why do you want women to rally for it? You're masochistic or something? Mental illness
>>10697517Sucks your body got into such a state. But we all get fucked by age one day. Also sucks that emo is dead now. It makes me feel so nostalgic, omg. But you can still become goth. It's not as much about looking polished as jfashion styles and it's similar enough. Maybe that could bring you some joy. Also good luck with weight loss. It can really be a struggle and take alot of time. Don't give up
>>10697529men do this weird thing where they insist on doing things themselves and then get mad they make miniscule amounts of progress. i've found that women are more realistic and better about reaching out or paying for professionals and comparatively men do nothing and then get upsethire a tutor for japanese lessons, hire a personal trainer for fitness, pay for music lessons, seek therapy for depression, or a doctor for medication. enough of this bootstrap shit where you just "do research" online and then suprised pikachu face nothing's happening. "hate going outside because people will see me wah" then buy a peloton and take lessons from home. i'm not being mean because i want you to kys, it's just annoying how there's so many ways to approach the problem but it's like guys refuse to spend even a single dollar on self help because they were dealt a shit hand in life. unless you are jobless and lazy, then there's no hope sorry that you wasted your time reading this.
>>10697611.....goth is a music based subculture not fashion stop encouraging people to be posers
>>10697635>muh gatekeepingPeople can wear whatever clothes they like and you can't do anything about it. Pretending to listen to certain music to be accepted by a group is posing. Sorry you're not special
I love Meta!!
been browsing /r9k/. man that place is depressing and cynical
>>10697706Soup incel arc
>>10695256wru selling? circlly?
>>10697749can you still be a lolita after losing your v card? lolita is all about being modest and classy so if you gave it up mind as well switch over to being a costhot. amiright my fellow robogulls. .
>>10697771>lets make nunlita a THING amirite
>>10697771soup kissless virgin confirmed
>>10697773I like the way you think bro>>10697774I wish. I texted my ex a couple of days ago asking for it back but she called me retarded and blocked me. all girls r the same ughhh aaaaaa
>>10697706I haven't been there since a long time...
I realized there's nothing that makes a man "a real man" and it's in fact, all just patriarchal bullshit where other men evaluate and judge you constantly and then if you don't pass the manhood test, they will go out of their way to hurt you and they consider you less than human. Seems this is what the women go through as well. There are videos out there of gay or just even weaker men getting literally beat to death by some "manly men". I got bullied so hard my entire childhood for just being kinda different. And now I'm scared of wearing fashion that's kinda "fruity", even if it's specifically designed for men. I'm also imagining sitting with a group of men, drinking beer and telling them about my interests and I can hardly think of scarier social situations to be in lolI was basically bullied into talking like them and never realized it.What the fuck...
>>10697825Yup, but with women it’s nitpicking appearances. Or, if nothing is particularly wrong with appearance, making shit up about them to justify disliking them. We don’t usually bash each other’s heads in but with (straight) women it’s a constant mindgame. (There are exceptions but I’m talking general socializing/acquaintances, not close friendships)
>>10697823are you a robot or fembot? I noticed fembot type posts gets a lot of you's. I dunno one day if I'm you starved I might have to do a bit of rp'in
>>10697825Finally another man that gets why the patriarchy hurts men instead of getting butthurt and defensive. Wear the colors you want and how you want. At most we'll judge you based on how it fits you but be careful around conservative men. Those are the types that will drag you out back for being a "fag" and beat you with a bat just because you like pastels.
>>10697636You can wear black and not be goth poser. It's literally that simple. And no, I'm not special because I enjoy a music genre that's been around since the fucking 80s.
>>10697825>I realized there's nothing that makes a man "a real man"I personally feel like there is, but it's nothing like what the majority of men will have you believe - just general personality traits of a good responsible adult. I hope you can wear what you like and feel safe at least around your friends.
>>10697706I literally feel awful by the end whenever I browse /r9k/, though it's an interesting window into perspectives you sometimes don't see.
>>10695247I feel sad when I think about my toxic ex and feel a twisted yearning to have some kind of friendship with him back but I must always remember how toxic and emotionally exhausting he was and NEVER let myself forget how awful he made me feel. Ultimately I'm happier without him. Fortunately I have a lovely partner (who also accepts lolita) and I'm in a healthy relationship so it isn't like I'm breaking down all the time or anything, but... You know, some nights are just like that. Worst thing is he still owes me like $400 so I need to keep some kind of contact with him until he pays it off. I want a hug...
>>10697873Honey just let the money go. He will never pay it back, and it’s just going to be a burning hole in you until you cut it off. If he hasn’t shown intention to pay you back yet then it’s not worth it. take care of you yo
>>10697913This. Never ever expect to receive loaned money back. It’ll give you a lot of peace of mind if you either refuse loans or consider them gifts.
>>10697850Why are people always like this with goth and punk specifically? You don't see people on mass calling themselves metalheads or visual kei because they want to dress in black or be edgy without liking or knowing anything about the genre.Is it because goth/punk are the most well known countercultures that people don't seem to understand the roots or??? It's so inexplicably lazy.>>10697873If he's that toxic he's probably not going to pay you back so he can still have one last foothold in your life. Cut him off and forget about the money for your own well being.
>>10697930anon, goth culture and goth fashion are different
>>10697932isn't the term for wearing goth fashion without really caring about goth specific music just 'mall goth'? I know it kind of became it's own thing and eventually we got scene and emo but that was my perception of things.
Lolitas can be petty for sure but I’m thankful they have no problem telling retards off.
>>10697833RobotAnd are you surprised that fembots get huge attention there?
soup can get fucked. Tripfags and namefags are truly something else and have been a scourge since 2008. Like who needs attention that badly they deliberately seek out an an anonymous platform to make an (annoying) name for themselves? I don't give a shit about some random scrote with inflated sense of self importance and his opinions on a fashion he doesn't wear. I have probably just outgrown this website, just sad to see there will always be attention whores who feel like they're above rules and board culture.
man I just really love lolita
>>10697971Agreed but>since 2008Since the beginning. Tripfags and name fags are only for those that contribute something continous like storytimes in /co/, content creation or giving updates on something.
>>10697973I think girls in lolita-clothing are beautiful
>>10697973Same, I also really love brand.
>>10697982>>10697971shut up idiots =)
seeing lolitas get fat is so depressing
>>10698029arent most of them usually fat to begin with lol
>>10698031Different anon but I started fat and lost weight so I could look better. Lolita helped kickstarted my drive to be healthy.
>>10698032Same, lolita really got me motivated to get fit.
>>10697932Literally no. There's a difference between goth and gothic
>>10697825I don't disagree but I also think that people don't acknowledge enough that the majority of women still go for those sorts of guys and men are never going to stop acting that way if the alternative is becoming an incel.
>>10697971I like soup, gives some personality
>>10697825There is though. It's called an xy chromosome
>>10697825No, you're either a closet fagggot or a mentally ill tranny.>>10697873Have you considered roping? Or finding the nearest building and jumping off? It'll do everyone a massive favour.
>>10698095And here we have a great example of toxic masculinity trying to put down another man for thinking differently, effectively proving the original anon's point. Thank you, you can sit down now.
>>10698097And enablers like youself are the reason trannies have gotten out of control.
>>10698098Don't you have a school to shoot up or something?
>>10698099>omfg skool shootah!!!!xD
>>10697967I GUESS NOT >>10698074dont forget humble, nice, cute, funny, charming, charismatic, cool, not ita, not autistic etc etc >>10698095you're a robot arent you
>>10698098Actually no. Half of the reason trannies exist is because of men shaming other men for doing things they deem as womanly and gay. Infact, some countries even promote transwomen to go under the knife because in their eyes it's better to be a transwoman than a gay man. Men have been beating and bullying each other into following a certain masculine hivemind that have left those that stick out confused.>I like pink and dresses but I am a man>but I am told that is for women>I must be womanThat's how this mental illness starts. Men have started to believe that only women can be cute or pretty so instead of just being a femboy, gay, or just a man who likes what society deems as "girly" they end up brainwashing themselves to fit the binary norm. Drunk off of porn and the ideal woman through a man's eye to the point several have fetishized it. Tl;Dr everytime you call a man "not a man" just because he doesn't like or do something masculine, that's one potential tranny in the making.
>>10698101>you're a robot arent youNope, just calling those two out for being idiots.
>>10698103what happened to "girls can play with toy soldiers and boys can play with dolls, but it doesn't make them any less girls or boys"?trannies are ironically the hardest supporters of traditional gender stereotypes, the moment you do something manly as a woman or viceversa they tell you you're actually not a woman or not a man. fucked up shit.sorry for derailing.
>>10698113I'm kinda glad I grew up as a millennial in regards to gender shit because this is what we were taught growing up. I used to think it was annoying PSA bullshit but now I realize how much those messages actually matter now. Trans people of course existed back then but they weren't shoving themselves into everyone's faces and screaming. Rocky Horror was iconic and praised by them and now it's seen as "harmful and offensive" to the trannies today. In the past they knew how to laugh at themselves and be strong through actual hardships they faced of being raped, beaten and killed by men. Now they cry about pronouns and blame women for being killed in the streets just because they don't agree with them. It's all so titiresome. I used to not call myself a terf but I'm leaning toward the term more and more because it's become synonymous with just being a ciswoman to them.
>>10698121>blame women for being killed in the streets just because they don't agree with themWhat are you referring to?
>>10698126Various comments on social media responding to others that don't agree with them. Several seem to think comments online is on the same level as actually killing them. I started to see this kind of thing come out of the woodwork when the whole J.K. shit happened. Not to mention cis women not being real women apparently? Vaginas being referred to as "front holes" which is very close to what misogynistic anons here refer to women as "holes."
I have no idea how to tell my gf that I'm a gothic lonelita... She looks like she'd be into jfash if exposed to it, and I'd love nothing more than my partner sharing my hobby in this shithole country, but I have no idea how she'd react to me wearing expensive girl clothes. We haven't even consummated our relationship yet. Maybe I should wait but I'm really not the type to hide or lie about things
>>10697449Women in my country have a history of fighting in wars or doing backbreaking work in shitty conditions to keep the front line from collapsing. They proved their strength, their will and value. They are respected and they didn't put down the men to do so. You never hear about them or similar women of other countries in feminist media and courses. You hear about "activists" who screech and maybe march until a man gives them more benefits and another man enforces them. Your "fighting" is throwing a tantrum until someone who sees you as a vote or a hole tries to buy your favour. Go become someone who invokes respect for other qualities.
>>10698140Just jumping in and agreeing, but trans are ridiculously misogynistic when they are loud. It's reversing everything feminism has worked for, because they want 'conformed' gender roles. Not to mention that bringing a man with a dick (which a lot of these were forever alone incels before they 'converted' without cutting off their dick) into a woman's private space is ridiculously unsafe. There's been many instances of rape in bathrooms, already.And every single time a trans man was in the bathroom with me, they also wanted to 'connect' with me in a stall. Yes. I'm serious. They start talking to you and acknowledging you there, when you're not close at all. It's weird autistic levels of incel shit.
I've found myself feeling really grateful lately that I live somewhere where it's OK to dress loudly and generally stand out in a crowd (reinforced by posts upthread). Sure I would LIVE if I had to eschew aristogoth outfits for fear of getting mugged every day, but at what cost.>also bought a DD on yahoo auctions going for half the listed price on CC and WW :3c
>>10698160No one should have to earn or prove they deserve basic human rights through back breaking hard labor. Stop acting like a pick me.
>>10698140Most trans people who get murdered (in the US anyway) are prostitutes and addicts living on the street who were killed by dealers and pimps. You can look up the actual crimes and almost all of them fall into this category. The murders have little to do with the trans aspect and are related to having a generally dangerous lifestyle, but the media tries to make it sound like they are random “hate crimes” committed by bigots. Also the actual number of these murders is very low.
>>10698199nta but i assume they turn to those sorts of work because of society generally be unaccepting and shunning them for being 'freaks' when most of them prolly just want to live life normally as their desired gender. there's also the intersection of race and the fact that the black community is just as homophobic as others and black and poc trans women in particular are the ones getting murdered all the time (and they're also likelier to be poor which would make sex work seem appealing when they're already maybe disowned by family and homeless or broke), but then white, usually wealthy and privileged trans women with platforms co-opt that suffering and struggle and remove the socioeconomic and racial elements constantly to victimize themselves.trans women aren't ever the thing that we're most worried about though. our biggest fears are people pretending to be trans to hurt women. so we're afraid of men, who are already hurting women just fine without trans bathroom rights or sports rules or whatever else. trans women are just as problematic as any other woman, which obviously all groups of people can be problematic, but they're an easy scapegoat for fears that we really have of men. men or amab people aren't all predators though.
>>10698160>Women in my country have a history of fighting in wars or doing backbreaking work in shitty conditions to keep the front line from collapsing. Same here in America but it's forgotten or outright ignored.
>>10698203Most people who identify as trans have myriad other mental health problems such as depression and this can lead them self-medicate with drugs and other self destructive behavior. Not to mention potential harmful side effects of all the hormones and drugs they take to transition. They don’t want to address their other issues and think that becoming the opposite sex and getting validation will solve all their problems, but it doesn’t and often just makes the other things worse because they have the added insecurity of trying to fit in with a group they didn’t originally belong to. Imo the current climate of immediate acceptance and encouragement to transition without question is going to be harmful in the long run because it pushes people to irreversibly change their bodies instead of first considering that the root of their unhappiness might be something else that can be treated in a less extreme way.
>>10698203>>10698206Agreed with both of these. Especially on how a large majority of people who claim to be trans, aren't trans at all. Not just the predator types but those confused and having other mental problems that other people tell them it's because they're trans or non-binary. I went through a phase in my teenage years of wanting to be a boy because I hated being looked at as a girl. I realized I didn't hate being a girl, I hated the reactions of OTHERS responding to me being a girl. I hated my breasts being commented on but didn't hate my breasts. I hated old men trying to pick me up when walking home from school or having my ass grabbed in public by strangers. I watched over the course of years men in my friend groups go through similar judgment and expectations from others based on them being male, make them want to be female to escape those pressures, not because they actually thought they were a woman. If society changed it's ways in these aspects, you would see a significant drop in trannies. Then actual trans people can get proper study and help they need.
Why aren't you whores becoming vtubers? >>>/trash/43177282
>>10698206ayrt, encouragement to transition and simply being accepting of their identity/dysphoria/not immediately mistreating or hating them because of them feeling trans is very different. there is evidence that shows even people who don't get surgery or medically transition in societies that are more accepting of trans people are less likely to commit suicide or deal with mental health struggles.i think gender roles are stupid and i get how hyperfocusing on them can cause people to believe they are trans
Getting into decorating fake nails and it's been pretty fun. I almost don't want to wear them.
>>10698203Nah, they turn to those sort of work because they are perverts who let fetishes define their life
>>10698234In the west, most likely. In other parts of the world, women, gays, and trans don't have much if a choice. A lot of then (mostly women) are abducted and forced into it.
>>10697971eh i kinda like soup, cgl isn't too overrun with tripfags or namefags compared to other boards so he's tolerable
Gee thanks, Youtube. No need to rub it in.
i'm not great at differentiating platonic and romantic feelings and recently some things have happened that are making me wonder whether i have a crush on my best friend or if im just excited and love the friendship. also zero clue if she feels romantically towards me or not, we're both not great at communicating things like that. FUCK.unrelated but also a feel, family is visiting so i can't get out my sewing machine at the moment which sucks because i just got some new fabric. sigh
I've began to notice that no one around me is functional and happy. Everyone seems to have some form of mental illness, mostly depression. It's not their fault and I don't blame them for it but it feels odd and lonely to be the only positive person around. I hold back on talking about good things in life be a use I don't want them to feel bad or make their life seem worse in comparison. This isn't just friends but coworkers and family members too.
I've not been this stressed in ages, wtf I'm laying awake eyes wide open staring at the ceiling please no
>>10698240kinda like an annoying brother you say. you can call me oniisoup >>10698285Unlucky you.
>>10698286It's not really luck unless you mean I'm lucky to be neurotypical. I've had my own hardships and traumas in life but they haven't affect me long term. I've had animals die in front of me, starved due to not having enough for food, left alone with strange men asking me odd questions, have a mother with PTSD go through depression and threats of murder suicide with me, had to stop her from being beaten, lived in a room with bullet holes, stained mattresses had all my stuff sold without my consent, have had years of my art destroyed in front of me as well as the only VHS tape of my childhood as well as photos, chased, attacked. I've cried and had moments of being sad and unfortunately these feel like the only things I can relate with people but I'm not depressed or traumatized. There's nothing wrong with me but being around everyone who have had lasting impressions from their horrible pasts and seeing how they are as a result, makes me think something may be wrong with me? Or not. It feels like it's weird to be happy or normal and talking about good things that's happening in the world or myself or others is met with disdain.
>sees dream dress on LM>bet>sees description>"altered to fit-"motherfucker
>>10697441Hey, Anon. *I* am 51, and I say "shut the fuck up" all the fucking time. What I don't do is writting "lol" in 4chan - that's plebbit-tier,Fucking newfags.
>>10697706>been browsing /r9k/well, there's your problem
>>10698295You can be really happy you're not affected by experiences much. But also understand that most people aren't like that. Still lucky for you that you can live a happy life now
>>10698297It might not be much. Many listed alterations prior to the 2020 boom were just lengthened straps or small amounts added to bust (a few cm for all of these), or a waistband added for tall people.
>>10697706Are they wrong though?
>bought burando stuff as a newbie at super inflated prices>selling the stuff i don’t end up wearing a year later for 50% what i boughtFeels bad but at least i know now not to be dumb with my money lol
>>10698300I was just looking for relatable friends but it's all american psycho and school shooter references>>10698318wdym girls r great
>>10698203nta this whole idea that they are victims is completely wrong. it's LITERALLY a power thing. no one is victimizing them out there.I have a friend who got into sex work and porn after becoming 'trans.' He admits he didn't cut his dick off, but he did take hormones *at one point*He has had a shit ton of mental illness, used to be addicted to heroine, and has always been pretty perverse. DESU I think the idea that these people are victims is an entirely wrong mindset. All they are is "easy" to mold from society, because the beliefs that the trans community pushes on people is literally on the level of cultist bullshit. Because I say BELIEF, because these people literally BELIEVE and FORCE EACH OTHER to believe certain "facts" that aren't rooted in science.TLDR: They are not victims of society, it's mental illness / power and control kinks
>>10698240namefags like soup aren't even one person. the idea is fucking annoying. the autistic asian boy should kill himself though.
>>10698392I feel sorry for people out there that are actually trans. I may be a TERF but I'm well aware of and know people who hate what that community has become, just as you said. Some stay in the closet because they don't want to be associated with those people. They're fine with people fucking up pronouns, they're fine with other people not seeing them as women because it only matters to themselves what they see, and they're fine with being excluded from sex based female spaces because they're fully aware of the safety reasons why. We even had a discussion on men's bathrooms being so dangerous not just for trans people, but for men and boys in general and that should be fixed regardless of gender shit.
>>10698395>but for men and boys in general and that should be fixed regardless of gender shit.From my experience, what I see as changing is open bathrooms where there's no privacy (and they are tight spaces) and it's actually a bit scary going into an unknown area without someone you.. This is coming from a progressive area, so you're going to all be seeing relatively unsafe bathrooms eventually. Seriously, another woman even suggested I have someone stand guard. That's how bad the bathroom was/is..regardless of a progressive area we all recognize this is entirely bad.
>>10698396I've actually seen something like that in my city. One of the new theaters built, the bathroom is unisex. It's an open hallway of sinks and mirrors that anyone passing by can look into but the toilets are in individual stalls with doors that actually reach the ground and near ceiling so no peeking can be done. I have mixed feelings about it. On one hand, the toilets are more private than normal stalls and on the other when you step out to fix yourself up in the mirror, you'll be standing next to men washing their hands. The open hallway gives some safety because anyone passing can see what's going on but if it's a slow day and no one is around, who knows what could happen.
>>10698394>namefags like soup aren't even one personyou keep pushing this narrative but why are you singling me out. maybe you can pretend to be me again and catfish urself a gf so that u can stfu bitch
>>10698399Yeah, but it takes a business being relatively not poor to make a larger open and safer space. Realistically, the issue is that they sound proof those doors and if some guy wants to come out and grab you from a door then it takes nothing at all to do that.The bathrooms I've been in with smaller businesses there are small concave spaces that make it *REALLY* easy for someone to just pop out and kidnap you. Realistically, if people think that's not going to be a problem then they don't know how bad men can be from just having a raging hard dick.
>>10698400i would never do that. btw i'm a girl.
>>10698318nah they right
>>10698399>>10698401do you guys really think that men trying to commit sexual assault in bathrooms are somehow deterred by gendered bathrooms? if there is no one around in an all gender bathroom, there would equally be no one around in a gendered one. all that happens if a man goes in a woman's bathroom and gets caught is that they pretend it was an accident.
>>10698399Completely floor to ceiling (or mostly) bathroom stall doors are common outside of burgerland. In Japan even some squat toilet stalls have that level of privacy. If a man wants to rape you in a bathroom the door type, bathroom gender laws, etc. are not stopping or encouraging him. Rapists are rapists and creeps are creeps regardless. The issue is the men, not the bathroom design or laws on who is allowed in which one.
>>10698405>do you guys really think that men trying to commit sexual assault in bathrooms are somehow deterred by gendered bathrooms?They actually are. That was part of the reason gendered bathroom were even made in the first place. (Note I say PART of the reason.) Men tend to be more impulsive when it comes to actions and people in general are more likely to do things they know they can get away with. There's a reason why there is more assaults' in men's bathroom's than in women's bathrooms. >all that happens if a man goes in a woman's bathroom and gets caught is that they pretend it was an accident.It depends on who else is in the bathroom because men have been arrested or kicked out of establishments for going in the wrong bathroom, and some women too the other way around.
>>10698405>all that happens if a man goes in a woman's bathroom and gets caught is that they pretend it was an accidentIf the bathrooms are not gendered, they don't have to pretend and there won't be grounds to kick them out. It's not a perfect one, but it's one guard that is broken down. If men can freely enter bathrooms without needing to hide, it will be much easier for them to follow women inside/place recording devices in the stalls, etc.
>>10698410Someone whose goal is to violently rape a stranger in a public place does not give two fucks about gendered bathroom rules anon.
>>10698414You're talking about someone set on doing this. I'm talking about opportunists. Even outside of bathrooms a man will walk up to a girl and start being a creep with no initial intention of doing anything physical. She tells him to fuck off, he snaps. Happens more often than you think. Now picture that happening in a bathroom setting. The men that have fetishes for braps, scat, pissing, or simply a new opportunity to hit on a woman giving more opportunities for fights when things don't go his way.
>>10698403ywnbas you will never be a soup
>>10698414Tell that to the korean man who waited in a unisex bathroom to kill a random woman. He didn't wait in a woman's bathroom, he waited in the unisex one.
>>10698420He would have still murdered someone if he was already hellbent on doing it in public you retard
>>10698424The point of your argument is that gendered bathrooms don't matter and in this case it did. He chose a unisex bathroom over a woman's bathroom.
>>10698403pls respond I'm very bored. do u have bpd? are you a girl(girl) or a girl(boy)
>>10698414Imagine not being able to get into a man, with a penis' head.You do realize, the sound of you pissing in the next stall is literally enough for someone to get hard and act on an opportunity, right?Everytime there's any discussion about this shit, it's blatantly obvious the majority of women on this board are naive and have literally no clue what it's like for a man, having a dick and raging hormones
>>10698424>would have still murdered someone if he was already hellbent on doing it in public you retardBelieve it or not, usually that isn't the first thing in their head when they decide to rape someone. That's just a consequence of them acting impulsively. It becomes more and more clear to me you dumb shits don't even know the psychology that you're trying to talk on.
>>10698430>>10698426I never spoke on general psychology. Just the fact that rapists will find opportunities to rape outside of bathrooms. Most rapes are not perpetrated by strangers to begin with. And yes the guy picked a unisex bathroom but if there wasn't one he would have probably still gone in the women's to lie in wait to literally murder someone.
males should be kept separate from society until they've proven they're not a threat desu
>>10698432You're talking about rapists in general. We're talking about bathrooms and why they exists and why unisex bathrooms can be a potential problem because of impulses men tend to act on. I'm fine with unisex bathrooms myself but I still see the higher risk in them. >but if there wasn't one he would have probably still gone in the women's to lie in wait to literally murder someone.The thing is he would have a much harder time to do this. A man in a woman's bathroom is quickly shoo'd out if he does not of his own accord and reported. In a unisex bathroom, he has a right to be there as much as anyone else. Not to mention he was a coward in the first place as most incels of his type are.
>>10698437They'll just rally up over being oppressed and go on a killing spree. You have to go to the source within their biology. I would say giving them hormonal drugs to calm down problematic men the same way birth control is given to women or depressed people.
I recently realized how much I don’t like my family, especially my mother and sister
>claim to be a lesbian>suddenly have a boyfriendWhy are itas like this
I lost enough weight that burando and other jfash is loose on me on the top, but my stubborn legs are still thicc and i can’t wear pants dammit.Skirts are really cute though
>>10698440Estrogen doesn't calm shit. You're literally asking a guy to go into an emotional rage, without the understanding of "why" they feel the way they do.So emotional rage+angry hard fists = disaster for smaller weaker women