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>>10693620
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>>10693621
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>>10693622
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>>10693622
fuck off this is cute
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>>10693622
not my style usually but this is really cool
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>>10693631
>>10693632
it's definitely not lolita it looks like an emo weeb's myspace pfp.
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>>10693622
Yeah I love this
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>>10693652
>>10693657
>>10693632
>>10693631
ya'll are literally not from the time when this was actually what we call ita. just cause you gen z newfags found a purpose for the ita clothes, doesn't mean we forgot. don't bring it into our space with your trash chinese designs
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>>10693671
i said it wasn't lolita you dumbass. calm your blind rage.
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>>10693652
how many of you fuckers are even old enough to even have a MySpace
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>>10693622
Not lolita, but cool af
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>>10693686
>cool af
I smell an egirl
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>>10693622
the itas are coming from inside the thread
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>>10693622
Not painful to look at
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>>10693740
>the itas are coming from inside the thread
OH GOD THEY'RE HERE >>10693741
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>>10693746
Yes, and I'm going to get you my pretty!
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My eyes
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>>10693750
She really just took 3 different patterns/prints and decided they match
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>>10693750
Ngl, I have bad taste and I enjoy the jacket skirt combo. Simple socks and a more intricate hairstyle would be a drastic improvement. Those long bloomers look like a droopy diaper too. I would've brought white into the bottom of the coord and changed the bag out for something themed to bridge the jacket/skirt disparity.
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>>10694023
>Ngl, I have bad taste
That's obvious. None of this works together. Her blouse and skirt are both far too busy to work. Just shut up already.
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>>10693672
>>10693686
you do realize this genre of clothing was derived off ita made chinese garbage right? You think just because egirl has adopted many fashion styles, we can't still call the same ita chinese made wannabe lolita clothing ita garbage? well then, you're mistaken because you obviously don't know the origin you shit. are you even old enough to be on 4chan?

Yes. Lolitas are still GOING to laugh at you for wearing the same shit we watched itas flood into our community with. If you think otherwise, you're mistaken. We KNOW where that clothing originated from.

Unlike half of your egirl garbage #jfashion tags on instagram, we actually fucking know the origins you dumb bitches.
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>>10694035
Otl honestly anon even if they did know the origins I doubt they would give a shit. Ethots are the same people who worship trashy mallgoth shit. They just can't help loving ugly cringe because they identify with it on a personal, spiritual level.
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>>10694039
These girls really getting their panties in a twist because someone likes something they don't. I know you're very defensive of lolita fashion but that doesn't mean that you can't like things outside of it. It's not that deep.
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>>10694051
It's not about someone liking something they don't.
It's about the pervasive and obnoxious culture of egirls trying to shove their way into spaces they don't belong (i.e. goth and lolita) with their shitty AliExpress knockoff versions then crying when they get called out for being posers/itas.
Cope.
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>>10694053
Then go yell at the ethots? Anons stated that they're aware it's not lolita but still like it. The real issue would be claiming it to be lolita when it's clearly not, and you're acting like they are.
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>>10694055
You clearly missed
>>10693631
>>10693632
>>10693657
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>>10694056
You missed that >>10694035 specifically quoted the ones that said it wasn't lolita.
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>>10694055
>>10694051
why the fuck are you wking for itas with these weird runway pics to boot
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>>10694057
Well I'm not that anon and don't give a shit. I was talking about everyone else itt not the ONE person who still has shit taste but admitted it isn't lolita.
Now stop with your (You)s
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>>10694059
Then why did you bring up posts that wasn't even part of the conversation? Why not respond to the ones you actually have an issue with? Seems like you misunderstood and jump to conclusions. It's alright, we're human.
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>>10694065
Are you really that stupid or just trolling?
Just because you respond to an anon doesn't mean you're responding to EVERYONE they responded to.
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>>10694073
I think you lost track of the conversation. It's okay.
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>>10694056
just cause anons said it looks cute doesn't mean they think its lolita lol
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>>10693622
egirl lolita sounds like it could be a successful lolita style. it doesnt even have to be it's own thing but a branch off of more popular ones like egirl sweet, egirl gothic or egirl lolita costumes (halloween specific). if you anons want your niche hobby to become bigger you have to stop putting down people that innovate new styles.
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>>10693631
You gen z lolitas are a different breed, Jesus….
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>>10694132
Samefagging but we don’t WANT that. Look at the idol thread when they let cosplayers act like idols. E-girls just need to come to terms with the fact that no one wants them here or in the goth loop and they need to just create their own community
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>>10694149
boohoo
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>>10694151
Oh shut up, no one likes you. Don’t you have some hair to dye?
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>>10694146
Nta but honestly looks like an ita from the 2000s would wear posted on MySpace along with Misa Misa as her profile image.
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>>10694059
stop fucking quoting me then you sperg.
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>>10693681
I'm pretty old soup. Come over to see how a real woman treats you.
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>>10694059
>who still has shit taste but admitted it isn't lolita.
She didn't say she liked it, tard.
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>>10694184
cant tell if that's an invitation to a good time or a trap to steal my cats. are you a cat lady trying to add more to your collection anon?
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>shitty amazon dress
>replica shoes
>wore it as a costume
More than 200 upvotes on r/lolita. The fashion really is dying.
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>>10694783
r/lolita is mostly larpers and newfags. I'm not sure what you're expecting.
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>>10694783
there's so much else actually wrong here but you call out "replica shoes" and "/r/lolita"? How new are you? Newsflash, reddit has always been LARPer garbage and design replica shoes haven't been controversial for ages.
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>>10694787
Oh sorry let me spend an hour talking about everything that’s wrong. See you all in a week. Obviously the dress and shoes are the most noticeable, it’s not the only thing.
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>>10694789
i said design replica shoes are not an issue, retard. learn to read
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this was posted under #gothiclolita and #lolitacoord
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>>10694992
yikes
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>>10694992
God I can't wait for efags to die out and quit inserting themselves into every alt fashion
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>>10693622
not lolita but still cute, wouldn't look out of place in a circa 2009 ad for MAM or putumayo
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>>10695090
>wouldn't look out of place in a circa 2009 ad for MAM or putumayo
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>>10695090
I hate that you're right about this
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>>10695098
How is she wrong though?
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>>10695101
Didn't say she was wrong. She just told the truth and I hated hearing it.
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>>10694992
Would pet the cat tho 10/10 catto >>10695033
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>>10695100
Bottom girl on the right I would go lesbian for.
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can a dress listing be ita
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>>10694992
can’t wait for the weird pidgeon-toed pose to stop being popular. i associate it with the worst of the tiktok alt kids now
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>>10695662
It's been popular in general since forever. It still can look cute on lolitas poses, as long as they don't over exaggerate it.
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>>10695664
i miss smileysquid so much
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>>10695872
Same.
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>>10697362
Is this what she thinks she looks like?
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>>10697375
I actually really like this…. A cute basic day to day style with normie bits sequestered in isn’t necessary ita
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>>10697414
its a mall goth outfit...you really thought this wasnt ita?
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>>10697375
Needs a nice blouse and headwear and it’d be decent.
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>>10697362
round as a pumpkin
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>>10697414
preteen emo =/= gothic lolita
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>>10697414
Explain to me how it is lolita.
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>>10697375
Now put this on a skinny japanese girl in a street snap and watch people seethe over it being posted in the ita thread
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>>10697467
To me, no matter who wears it it looks more simple emo than lolita. The fishnet on her arms is what does it for me.
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>>10697467
>pretty thin people make outfits look better
what’s new? i feel like this argument is always kind of weak. when someone sees a good coord on someone skinny they don’t usually flip it and reverse it into “this would look shit on ugly fat people”
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>>10697375
give her a headpiece and some more poof and she's 10/10 casual. some jewelry wouldn't be amiss but there's nothing glaringly wrong here. Fishnets aren't evil, it's just another tool to be used and i think she did it okay.
Besides at least she isn't wearing those shitty boots every ita tries to wear.
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>>10697489
10/10???
Are you blind? The bottom half is great but the top half is just shitty. I love fishnets and fishnet tops but this looks tacky and mall goth tier ugly.
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>>10697489
How is that outfit lolita?
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>>10697362
Oof. She has one video where her boobs are to her stomach in a high waist cut dress.
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>>10697474
and its not her being skinny and japanese this fit is actually decent unlike hers
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>>10697414
>>10697489
just because the bottom half is nice doesn't make the whole outfit not shitty
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>>10697560
how does that work, it looks like she has none
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>>10697474
Nitpick but this is mall goth, not emo. Emo was skinny jeans, black karen hair, and band tees.
People lately seems to be overlapping mall goth, scene, and emo into the same thing and just calling it emo.
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>>10697480
Idk I've seen that quite a lot on here though
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>>10697666
I see, I don't know much about either of those alt fashions. I was going to say "punk" at first but didn't know for sure, all I knew was it wasn't lolita. Thanks for the correction.
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>>10697666
scene and emo were basically the same thing and they still both used skirts often. they're not even real anyway.
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>>10697666
For outsiders, all those fashions blend together into one big edgy black hole. Same thing happens when you try to expain the difference between sweet lolita, decora, and fairy-kei. It's all just pastel vomit. I've heard someone call my sanrio merch "Sailor Moon fashion"
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r/lolita loves their hot topic itas
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>>10697375
holy shit, that 40 yr old face paired with the fake-cutesy shy pose of a 13 yr old is what does it for me
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>>10697678
emo was more dark and sad and toned down. scene had the crazy hair, more bright colors, more girly
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I created an alt fashion thread in /fa/ if anyone wants to talk more about the different types. differences, and so on if the conversation wants to continue further.
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>>10697717
no one wants to go to that cesspool.
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>>10697727
Right, but I'm doing what I can to have actual discussion for other types of fashion. It's also to test if /fa/ can actually have those type of threads. Made a pastel feminine fashion thread as well for any that may be interested.
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>>10697666
That is absolutely not mall goth. Mall goth was the term the pretentious elder goths used to describe hot topic kind before emo and scene entered the common lexicon.

Japanese punk and goth has always looked like mall goth because it’s not shy about using colors, but it’s not a term that the model in >>10697474 would use to describe her own style.
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>>10697467
This is why I wasn’t gonna argue.

Just because it doesn’t fit the 2021 era of style doesn’t mean it wasn’t cute or couldn’t pass for casual.
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>>10697779
You are so very very stupid and clearly have no idea what you're talking about
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>>10697855
Other anon is right and you're probably too young to post here. Shoo shoo, back to tiktok.
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>>10697857
Bitch please I'm old enough to know that Japanese punk and goth was heavily influenced by British punk and goth in the 80s and originally looked more like those traditional styles than the newer cringe mall goth shit you absolute child.
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>>10697855
no one in japan has ever used the phrase mallgoth until right now, when its become a catch-all term for faux "visual kei" styles of the late 00s/early '10s.

mallgoth isn't a real style prior to tiktok zoomers. it was a pejorative used to make fun of young hot topic tripp pants wearing edgy baby goths. they were called mallgoths because the term came from combining the term mallrat with goth.

japan doesnt have a mallrat equivalent culture.

also the japanese streets entry for >>10697474 still exists, and the style is labeled as goth

http://www.japanesestreets.com/photoblog/1917/harajuku-tokyo-ozzcroce-g2-sword-fish-demonia. her name is Lisa and she was photographed pretty often in 2012/2013. She had a tumblr and would tag her own outfits as #goth or #emo.

not mallgoth, because that term hadnt come back yet in 2012.
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>>10697867
her tumblr is https://lisa-j-poole13.tumblr.com/ and i recommend looking through her archive and going back to 2012 because theres some really cute photos here for outfit inspiration. original anon here >>10697474 was right in saying that this outfit looks emo, because Lisa seemed to take inspiration from 2008 era emo style, which was having a slight trend revival in 2012/2013
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>>10693750
what's with the heart...? did she try to hide her face and miss?
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>>10697858
> I'm old enough to know that Japanese punk and goth...looked more like those traditional styles than the newer cringe mall goth

Yes...? So why are you angrily disagreeing with the person who's saying it does not look like mall goth? Did you click the wrong anon?
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>>10697984
Coord looks fine, mask even matches
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>>10697990
but coord is fucking ugly mate
tacky clolita at its finest
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>>10697994
I come here for poorly put together coords. If you want to make a thread on ugly lolita dresses then do so.
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>>10697991
my god......
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>>10697991
Why the fuck would you post this….
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>>10697984
adorable coord, op either has a vendetta, is blind, or hates fat people
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reddit never fails to amaze me
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>>10697998
The dress is fine, everything she coorded it is fucking awful.
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>>10697994
Thats literally an AP dress, just say you're new and go
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>>10698030
That proves that modern AP is clolita level but APfags would eat any shit AP releases om nom nom so yummy
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>>10698034
>om nom nom so yummy
What are you, 5?
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>>10697944
Can you not read? I called them stupid because they claimed Japanese goth has always been mall goth shit.
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>>10698045
It’s always looked similar to mall goth but that’s just a couincidence
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>>10698030
a coord can be clolita style while having a ap dress, everything else on that coord is from taobao so that makes a majority of clolita items. that coord hurts my eye so I find it ita
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>>10694783
It's the lack of a petticoat for me.
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>>10698102
nta but PUNK was similar, not goth. this board just reeks of newfags to jfashion.
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>>10698158
I'd just say it's the sleeves, personally. I'm not sure why anyone is using these massive out of place sleeves with sweet like they are at a renne fair.
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This thread is for homos and dumbasses take a moment to consider which one you are
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>>10698173
Both
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>>10697984
Is this FKJ? I think she looks nice here. The only thing I would change myself would be losing the bear bag and steaming the dress.
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>>10698102
this shit has been around much longer than mall goth so please stop commenting like a child who isn't old enough to know the difference and thinks it's all just mall goth
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>>10698173
sorry you got posted
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>>10698173
This applies to everyone who goes on /cgl/. I thought that was obvious
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>>10698173
I'm a dumbasses
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Oh lor…
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>>10698236
desu if i wasnt a lolita or knew anything about lolita i would say she looks cute, im a sucker for rainbow aesthetics
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>>10698236
I didn’t like this specific coord but I appreciated her showing so many different ways to style a dress. I liked the second one she did. Sometimes you make mistakes, and I think sharing them is an important part of the process. I want to see more lolitas’ bad coordinates, desu.
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>>10698253
i dont
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>>10698253
That's what cof, reddit, and ita threads are for.
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>>10698341
What is this? Why is this? Is it trying to be ouji and failing because it sure as fuck ain't lolita in any way.
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Shocked she went outside with hair this bad, it’s fried to the point that shaving would be the only solution.
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>>10698360
please can she use a wig
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>>10698236
Pixielocks approves
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>>10698360
Why do people dye their hair if they either can't afford or are too lazy to invest time and money into basic fucking maintenance? Just buy a colorful wig if you so badly want to be special
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>>10698341
why the fuck did they do the crying mascara makeup for 'boy style?'
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>>10698365
Lor is cringe but thank god she’s self aware enough to not go down the hole Pixie went down. That’s a mess and a half. Seeing her devolve from a cute lolita into whatever she’s doing now is… downright sad actually.
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>>10693620
I'm not a lolita myself, but I never understood the culture of making fun of bad outfits. I mean all lolitas look like awkward manchildren playing dress up as a princess anyway, why can't they just have fun together instead of judging people for not looking like a weirdo in the right way?
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>>10698461
Next time just say you have no fashion sense! All lolita stands out and "looks weird", sure, but there is a massive difference between a put together outfit made with quality material, and a shiny, cheap, mismatching mess.
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>>10698462
A gold plated turd is still a turd
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>>10698461
For the same reason as any other fashion. If it doesn't look good, it's going to be pointed out. Several new lolitas some here to learn what not to do and look their best. Others come for gossip and a laugh. If you let people run wild with it, the fashion loses it's style. There's also people that think it's a kink showing off their cleavage, diapers, panties and spread misinformation about it to normal people and we don't want to be associated with it.
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>>10698464
Oh you're just here to troll, I though you genuinely wanted to understand. Disregarded.
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>>10698466
If it was a kink like with furries, I'd still understand it. But being serious about wanting to look like an uwu little precious princess is cringe as fuck. No amount of gatekeeping will change that. So why not just embrace it? Furries are doing that, and it doesn't make their fursuits look worse.

>>10698467
I get that I'm being mean, but I'm not trolling
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>>10698468
You seem to already have a fixed mindset that isn't going to change regardless of what we say so it's a waste of energy to continue with you. Have a good day.
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>>10698468
>uwu little precious princess

That's... that's not what lolita is about
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>>10698476
>Bare shoulders
The nerve.
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>>10698468
If you genuinely wanted to argue against gatekeeping, you should've drawn parallels to other fashion communities and not furries who had different origins. Right now, you sound like a scrote trying to stir shit up. Other fashion communities gatekeep just as hard as lolita. There was gatekeeping in the emo/punk/goth community in the heyday. There's elitism and brand gatekeeping in streetwear. People get snobby about Gucci, Hermes, Louis Vitton, etc handbags. I don't know why you thought lolita would be different than any other fashion. There's also a problem where a lot of lolitas enter the fashion in their teens but there are malicious kinksters fetishizing the fashion. We're gonna gatekeep.

If you're still gonna argue, I don't know what to say. Maybe grow some thicker skin if you're worried about others' opinions that much
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>>10698143
tallitas...please wear tights or OTKs. nobody needs to see your midthigh
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>>10698477
Isn't this AtePie?
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>>10698468
>it was a kink like with furries
>I get that I'm being mean, but I'm not trolling
Oof. Just admit you got posted and you're lashing out because you can't dress yourself out of a paperbag. (get it? haha ita.)
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>>10698468
moid coomer detected and opinion discarded
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>>10698479
>>10698486
>>10698489
I'm a cis woman and if I'm going to spend 200$ on a fucking dress, it better make me look good to people that matter. That's all
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>>10698497
Anon, keep proving that you're an ita in this thread. My boyfriend and many other men in my life (assuming that's who you're appealing to, because women default think lolita is cute unless they are trying to do sex appeal) have thought I look good in lolita. It just sounds like you're ugly. No clothing can fix that. Sorry.
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>>10698499
Yeah I wouldn't tell a friend that a dress makes her look weird if she really likes it either
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>>10698497
Imagine not getting lolitas dress for their own enjoyment and not to appeal to other people. Must suck having to be this unhappy and codependent.
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>>10698497
Listen here baby girl, you're going to get a lot of mean comments but I ain't about that...
Anyway, we buy the dresses because we like them. That's it.
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>>10698497
I'm married and my husband loves how I look in lolita, stay mad you're too fat or mannish to pull it off I guess.
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>>10698497
the only person that matters + that you should look good for is yourself
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>>10698507
>>10698504
>>10698502
But that's exactly what I mean. If you do it for yourself, why do you make fun of people who do the same thing, just because they aren't up to your standards? We're in the ita thread, remember?

>>10698505
>>10698499
Calling me ugly won't make me ugly. Stay mad
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>>10698501
>her look weird if she really likes it either
Trust me, when I took hiatus people actually brought it up to say I should continue doing it and it looked natural on me / looked good. So yeah, keep being mad that you don't suit lolita. I can wear plenty of different fashions and look good. Chances are you're just ugly.
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>>10698511
uh because it's fun? are you really looking for a good reason KEK
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>>10698497
>thinking $200 is expensive for clothing
Ask me how I know you only shop at forever 21 and shein.
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>>10698511
Think of it this way. If you're playing a tabletop game with a bunch of people that also love the game, wouldn't you be upset with the person that isn't following the rules and just doing what they want? Then they go on to teach those incorrect rules to other people? So when you play with a new set of people, the game you're playing with them changes to something completely unrecognizable. There are people that break the rules of lolita and end up turning it into something it isn't. Part of the fun is playing within the rules of the game. There's a challenge in finding pieces that match together in just the right way or combing colors. The ita threads are for those that go far outside these rules whereas you'll see in the other threads, you'll see nitpicks that just mean there are little things that could help the outfit look better.
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>>10698515
In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king

>>10698516
200$ is indeed pricey for one item of clothing, and I'd expect more for that money than some cotton dress with very particular cleaning requirements, that can't be worn to any professional or formal occasion

>>10698518
Thanks, this actually makes sense.
Still kinda seems like bullying but eh
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>>10698525
>cotton dress
There's a joke here. But there's a whole discussion and debate about quality within the fashion going down but regardless, the details and effort that goes into making the dresses is like buying art and being able to wear it.
>that can't be worn to any professional or formal occasion
Believe it or not, some of us do and people generally like it. Of course it's not fitting for all places but most of us know where we can and can't.
>Still kinda seems like bullying but eh
Of course it is, this is 4chan.
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>>10698525
>200$ is indeed pricey for one item of clothing
kek
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>>10698525
>$200 is pricey
You meant $2000 right?
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>>10698518
>>10698525
Confirmed. Anon got posted and started whining.

There's no reason for this anon to be on here, whining about LOLITAS and then WHINING ABOUT ITAS. Man. >>10698525 you must really be ugly
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>>10698525
>>10698143
Found anon
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>>10698544
See I can't even tell what's wrong with it because y'all look equally cringe
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>>10698543
No, I don't think so. I think it's a namefag from /fa/ because they were saying something similar yesterday. Not everyone that gets pissy here are itas being posted, some are just scrote trolls or wandering crossboarders. I'd tell you that accusing everyone of being posted seems like a weird paranoia but really it doesn't matter.
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>>10698545
Skirts are not supposed to be that high on lolita. A little above the knees is fine but she's so tall the dress comes off as much shorter. As another anon said, it would be best she wore stockings/longer socks.
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>>10698545
nice larp

>>10698547
stop posting, you shit troll. There's no way you can reference
>cotton
>ita threads being bullying
and so on, without you being a lolita. No one is going to look the other direction with your shit misdirection. Anon, you're seriously pissed you got posted and it shows.

Also you suck at trolling. Like I care what some dumb ass anon thinks of "paranoia" when you've outed yourself by knowing what lolitas consistently talk about or post.
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>>10698553
Also to note, /fa/ bullies far more than us. You're not gonna larp as /fa/ because they would justify bullying shit itas.

You're a shit troll and an ita, obvi
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>>10698553
>>10698554
I'm a different anon than the one you're talking about unless you just accuse everyone as ita. Anyway here was the name fag I was referring to. If you still wanna get upset over nothing that's your business not me.
>>>/fa/16615120
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>>10698553
Why do you have to be a lolita to reference cotton and bullying?

>>10698554
>>10698556
I'm not on /fa/, I'm barely on 4chan anymore, so at least you won't have to see my posts again
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“ Do the black tights stand out too much? I have black hair but I’m not sure it balances it out”
>active in race play asking for a white master
>posts ass pics with captions like “cute” “innocent”
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>>10698788
Hi S.
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>>10698788
are you sp00? anyways, r/lolita has always been the place for teens to go and be ultra cringy until they sober up in their thirties. I'm not surprised
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>>10698809
Whats sp00 actual question. I saw someone say hi S. Is it the way I formatted the post? I haven’t been on the threads in a few months so I feel like I missed something
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>>10693752
Clearly covering up her double chin. God forbid she actually tried to get rid of it the proper way
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Good god. The fucking crocs.
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>>10698856
this was clearly referred to as "filthy and casual" by the poster so this feels like low hanging fruit
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>>10698856
oh christ is this neo rococo
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>>10698819
why not just learn out to use photoshop, you know like everyone else
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>>10698236
you have to wonder what’s the point of all these indie brands of all they’re going to put out looks like you just walked out of a Claire’s.
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>>10698886
This is shitty and calling it casual is a cope. Why would anyone even want to share a coord they makes them look like a dirty homeless person
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>>10698236
To be fair she said herself it was a bad coord
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>>10698886
It's you isn't it
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>>10698924
This one is actually pretty cute, not gonna lie. Definitely looks like a claire's ad though.
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>>10699008
Why would you admit to having taste this bad
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>>10699009
Not saying its lolita, just that it looksess awful than what she usually does
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>>10698950
Anon this looks like a high or middle school
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>>10693622
Dear diary,
another month, another /cgl/ poster proved to have zero knowledge about lolita styles.
I'm starting to believe that western comunity have very cringy and narrow understanding of tat style.
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>>10698856
please wash everything pictured.
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>>10699028
oof. china has literally no clue of the substyles, in case you haven't noticed.
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>>10699027
Her face is covered with a sticker, how can you tell?
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>>10699102
Anon… the school behind her…
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>>10698030
>>10698036
Are you fucking blind? The dress is fugly, esoecially the lace sleeves. Brand loyalty is actual cancer, jfc.
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>>10699231
That's the blouse retard.
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>>10699231
Please take your pills.
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Not sure how this kind of shit makes it onto CoF

This is very not in line with lolita
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I don't know why the thread is almost dead
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>>10699747
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>>10699748
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>>10699749
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>>10699751
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>>10695664
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>>10696075
Yeah but she's a genderspeeshul now who has gone off the deep end.
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>>10699749
there's no way they called this lolita..

>>10699751
left in pink is the only nice one
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>>10699798
That's depressing to hear.
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this is terrible and not lolita. I stared at it for so long and couldn't come up with a nice way to say it but this abomination absolutely shouldn't be worn
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>>10700043
Did she make this herself? Fuuuuuuck everything from cheap lace to the kraft mac and cheese color scheme is so so very ugly. What the hell is going on with the placement on those shoulder straps?
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>>10699751
is
is the girl on the left wearing niqab?
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>>10699753
this bitch is always posting everywhere. always looking like shit too.
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>>10700073
Her bf made it. I want to leave concrit but I feel like he would just throw a fit.
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>>10700120
surely they know it's shit
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>>10700122
I...I don't think they do. The people in the comments sure do though. In general people who are new to lolita and or sewing, create some awful shit that they think is good.
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>>10700043
oh no the bottom ruffles… if you’re gonna sew dresses then learn to gather properly jfc, it’s not even particularly hard.
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>>10699033
including the person
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>>10698856
I can literally see the dirt embedded into that cardigan
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Did this scrote even try?
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>>10700459
Ngl he looks vaguely reminiscent of a trad goth
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>>10700459
This isn't even lolita
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>>10700043
The unfinished lace trim on the shoulder strap is what's doing it for me. It's like you can see where she ran out of "buy-the-spool" JoAnn's fabrics budget lace.
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>>10700760
Apparently that was on purpose to follow the design lol
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>>10699753
I don't get why this girl gets so many asspats, her hair and coordinates are hideous.
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>>10700769
her hair looks like that stuffing you get in plushies lol
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>>10700817
people called her out multiple times but sjws just want to wk any black woman with "natural hair". her hair got fucked by bleaching, but don't try to explain that to all the white twitter fags because they will just call you racist.
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>>10700817
it's sad because her hair is probably really beautiful naturally but she totally fucking fried it
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>>10700769
she's black. there's so many people who don't need to try to get clout right now, just for the color of their skin.

Imagine.
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>>10700827
Tbh of all the complaints about her no one has ever brought up her hair much in a constructive way. It's always been "wahh she's black so she's an SJW they/them reee" and people just seething over every coord of hers, mediocre, decent, and bad equally.

I don't know what her hair was like pre-bleach but depending on it's natural texture she may just have super kinky hair she blows out or something to get more length and volume. Or if she was more like a 3b or something it probably is fried if it looks like this now it really depends. It's not racist to be like "damn I feel bad for how fried her hair is", but you have to remember every black person's natural texture is different so sometimes from a distance what is fried for one person's hair texture might just be what a other person's hair texture does when styled a certain way even if healthy. And hair doesn't have to have a defined curl pattern or tons of product to make it look like some other texture to be healthy.

I honestly wish more black girls wore braids with lolitas in addition to wigs rather than unhealthy breaking off relaxed hair or natural hair with little effort when they could have put a nice wig on. We have such versatile hair and seeing girls look mediocre when I know other girls are doing a good job irl and online with lolita/jfashion and natural hair wigs, or protective styles it frustrates me cause there's no excuse.
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>>10700953
is that... an op under a salopette?
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>>10700958
All of this, but this is also 4chan. They would still dog on her if her hair was styled literally any other way.
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>>10700043
Ewww minion colors. Burn it.
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>>10701237
This just looks like casual, ugly casual but casual.. no eye bleach, here. idk.
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>>10701395
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>>10701396
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>>10701398
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>>10701396
was this just a try on or the finshed look?
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>>10701408
does that matter? look at the hoarder nightmare she blurred out. she's wearing a wig too so it's probably more than a try on.
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>>10700953
All brand no taste
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>>10701410
doesn't matter, was just wondering. at least it'd make it a little less worse
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>>10700953
This is a hot mess
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>>10701395
I’m so sick of this dress. I’ve never seen anyone make it look good
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>>10701249
Unless the cavernous void of shadow at her neck is supposed to balance those dark shoes, this coord is rough.
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>>10700958
I agree with you and I just wish black girls in general would take note of their hair period. There’s so much we can do with it, but bitches insist on the broken Afro look….
If you can’t afford braids, fine but just…. Sculpt the Afro and add embellishments if you insist on wearing it out. No need for it to look dehydrated af
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>>10701446
I think the skirt has tones that match, personally. It's not nearly as bad as some coords, honestly. It just looks like classic-casual to me. Realistically, browns and classic get away with more than your matchy matchy coords with sweet. So I can't judge it the same way, personally. I'm not a classic lolita, but I also don't think it's bad either due to the way normie clothing rules work with browns.
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>>10701466
I get what you're saying, though I'm gothic not sweet so that's another difference in sensibilities when looking at what's not working here. I'm not a huge fan of the skirt, and with the solid sweater and solid tights the skirt's pattern is doing a lot of the heavy lifting in making this cohesive at all. So, I guess to circle back, it's ugly classic casual. From a closer look, her hair accessory might be a darker brown to try to balance? The image is so blurry it's hard to tell.
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>>10701474
Yeah, it's probably ugly classic casual. Sweaters were/are a common thing for casual however. You don't see it as often, because casual lolita is seemingly frowned upon nowadays as "doing it wrong." I think the hair accessory is trying to balance it. I don't like the skirt, either however lol. But at least it matches with her hair.

I guess if you saw this 10 years ago, everyone looked like this honestly. It's nothing special, no. Haha. I just wouldn't call it ita, either.
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>>10700958
This is a good post but it’s going to fall on deaf ears because it’s easier for anons to go “reeeee ugly hair how dare she get more likes than me!!” than for them to fix their own greasy ass limp hair.
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test
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>>10701696
it literally looks like a clown wig and doesn’t look lolita at all. There are plenty of black girls who style their hair to match lolita and look great. no one is jealous of her having a permanent clown wig, because we don’t want one either
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>>10701771
Nta and I don't entirely get what their point was but no one ever claimed anyone was jealous.
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>>10701816
they're trying to imply critics are jealous of her follower count. i'd rather have 0 followers than hair like hers.
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>>10701850
Ayrt I was referring to the fact everyone who's ever been exposed for posting to this thread has had sad ass unstyled hair on top of dressing like crap. I wasn't even saying her hair looks good, I was just agreeing with anon that criticisms of it are usually stupid as hell and assume knowledge over some stranger's hair texture, e.g. calling it a clown wig.
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>>10701463
>>10700958

Honestly, it's so hard finding examples of non-braid/twist styles for afro hair. Like, outside of buns what is there?
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>>10701867
I hate the app with a passion, but TikTok has some really cute styles and tutorials. Otherwise, Google Afro styles and see what you can come up with.
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I don’t really follow lolita stuff as much as I used to, but I saw this post on r/lolita. This... isn’t a good coord right?
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>>10701926
It's fine until you get to the shoes. Those shoes are terrible. I'm sure the excuse is muh disability. I know some don't care for the star underskirt, but meh.
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>>10701926
i do like the capelet (but dear god, please steam the wrinkles out) and the blue/cream color scheme could be pretty. this may be nitpicky but i almost always register a garment with see-through fabric or more than a bit of chiffon as cheap-looking, even when it’s brand. i think it’s because some cheap fast fashion brands will use a lot of chiffon or flowy cheap fabric to give the look of an over the top luxurious dress, rather than the beautiful construction and high-quality fabrics and intricate thick lace that you see on a lot of (especially older) brand pieces. also the shoes are awful but that goes without saying lol
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>>10701926
Nah it's terrible and I'm sure she knows it because she didn't want concrit lmao
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>>10701926
It's not the worst thing I've ever seen, but matching ivory/beige with such a pastel sweet dress is weird.
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>>10702017
...eff. I hate those "doll eye" makeup itas..
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>>10693733
the ribbons on the shoes feel like such an earnest effort it's sad to look at
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>>10702211
Is that Mossbadger?
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>>10702017
i kinda wanna see the entire coord (socks + shoes)

i want to hope that aside from the makeup and lack of headwear to balance everyting that the coord is otherwise fine
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>>10702218
why would that even matter? in fact, if it's fine that means she's a lost cause and will add quirky shit to everything.
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>>10702215
Nah she's from TX
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>>10702211
It’s shit like this that makes me mad a person holding a panel at this con won the regular coordinate contest, considering they had mostly handmade items.
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>>10702211
I'm real tired of amateur hour with handmade stuff. Most of the time it looks like a costume. The construction is never good and neither are the colour choices or lace choices. I know nobody is going to be good at handmade lolita right away but these people always skip learning good construction with smaller things first and go right to a jsk.
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>>10702246
most of the people making handmade are lazy as fuck, self-taught simplicity pattern "seamstresses", it's literally wading through garbage to find anything nice.
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>>10701926
Honestly the dress needs to go. And the shoes she's wearing cannot be any more comfortable than a pair of light colored sneakers, cmon. This is allover a mess. I'm disabled and I can still dress myself, ffs
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>>10701926
I' so tired of people with foot problems not even trying. Just get a nice pair of clean orthopedic sneakers (keds has decent ones) and swap out the shoe laced for ribbons. Have different colored ribbons to go with multiple coords if money is that big of an issue. They honestly never even fucking try.
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>>10702211
…. Yep that sure is handmade alright
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>>10702259
When I went to Disney I bought a white pair of pumas and did exactly this. It’s actually a really cute look





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