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Last thread >>10661897
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>>10670609
I wish people would stop wearing cheap claire's accessories because we can tell
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>>10670615
I wish people would do the most basic research on the fashion before dropping hundreds on a dress just to wear it to an anime con like this.
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AliExpress reviews
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>>10670618
IDK, they never hold their purchases so I welcome the newfaggy con goers to the community so they can bring it into the western market and sell to lolitas once they decide it's not for them. More for us. Their prices are reasonable sometimes too.

Now shit like this: >>10670624 can go die in a fire.
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>>10670624
Is it a man or woman?
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>>10670609
I like her hair
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>>10670615
>implying burando accessories are much better quality than Claire's
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>>10670673
I had to block her bc of how much of a pissoff it was to hear her defend her shitty replicas
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>>10670675
They really aren't which is why I wear only
quality vintage and off brand jewelry
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>>10670673
God, this lardball is the size of a fridge
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>>10670675
Based
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>>10670650
no woman has a face structure like that. He's a man
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>>10670692
That's a She?
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>>10670673
Is this just some really fucked up Snow filter? Why is her head so insanely small, even compared to the print and bag? The way the sides of the JSK melt into her sleeves also looks weird.
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>>10670803
It's been edited by an anon
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>>10670645
ive only ever seen this print in extremely cursed ita coords. its haunted.
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Ugh haven't you bitches even READ the wikihow article on how to be a proper kawaii lolita-chan?!
Calling someone an ita is HURTFUL! :(
Same with calling a dress a LACEMONSTER. Just think of that dress' feelings!!!
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>>10670976
Who the fuck wrote this
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>>10670985
Clearly an ita.
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>>10670645
legitimately terrifying, it's photographed as though she's a cryptid

>>10670729
>>10670803
it's shooped to make it HiLaRiOuS
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>>10671019
Cope
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>>10670624
smile through the pain lol
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>>10671019
bc it is hilarious
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>>10671025
cope? with what? the hilarity?
dilate.
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>>10670976
>brolita is offensive
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>>10670673
i swear to god she gets bigger everytime i see this
>>10670976
i liked lolita becoming more 'mainstream' and accessible at first but if this is what it's being watered down to then i will gladly die an elitist
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can't we all just get along and post itas please
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>>10671109
There's a shit ton on instagram, but I've been lazy for a change. None of ya'll contribute to these threads enough.
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>>10671050
Get that sand out of your troon pelvic hole.
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I found this on the reddit lolita subreddit a few weeks ago. Not really sure what’s going on
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>>10670609
my standards are so low after years of horrible horrible ita-ness that just by being cute and thin OP isnt ita
>also this image is 6 years old
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>>10671019
Sorry you got posted.
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>>10671140
Good lord.
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At least she's the only passable lolita in her com
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>>10671153
Her joints must be screaming
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>>10671153
That blonde needs a better skirt
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>>10671111
>>10671140
>Calls itas itt hilarious
>LOL YOU'RE MAD??? sOrRy YoU GoT PoStEd

Sorry you're both so incredibly stupid
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>>10671153
Good lord what a car crash pile up with no survivors
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>>10671163
Look, I get it. This board is a bit much for you and doesn't have those good vibes and stale sense of humor you live for. Maybe go back to whatever subreddit you came from. You just might feel better.
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>>10671163
Stop taking the bait you dumb son of a bitch
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>>10671240
nta, but lolitas on here have been proven to not read.

I don't think it's bait.
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>>10671153
Where the fuck is this? Iowa?
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>>10671250
I’m pretty sure she lives in Germany
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>>10671331
>>10671250
unfortunatly quebec...my comm sometimes has meets with hers...
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>>10671240
Nta either but this definitely isn't bait considering two gulls are chiming in and nonnies have a tendency to be petty and want to put each other down reflexively without actually paying attention to what they're responding to
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>>10671153
her feet look like they're going to snap like kit kats from the immense weight theyre struggling to support
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>>10671332
Who the fuck are the guys? What are they attempting to dress as?
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>>10671153
How is it that the middle one who should have the most difficulty wearing lolita out of every other woman in this picture (i am ignoring the scrotes for my own sanity), actually managed to be the only one put together?
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>>10671405
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>>10671404
This wouldn't be that bad if the ears and wig were better quality.
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>>10671395
This doesn't belong here nonnie.
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>>10671413
Oh yes it does. I don't know what you dress like in order to think is not ita. I'm nta but that photo makes me want to bath in bleach.

I have the constant reminder that there's a large discrepancy in who frequents /cgl/ now.

Itas are among us.
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>>10671407
Why would anyone post this selfie?
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>>10671412
The peeking petti makes it look worse too
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Sexy baby is low hanging fruit but his face makes me want to vomit
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>>10671424
Dropped pic like an idiotic
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>>10671140
Lmao

Pick a color scheme and stick to it, this is ridiculous
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>>10671427
Derp my b
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>>10671424
me too he looks like this guy who used to stalk me because he was obsessed with lolita.
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>All of your wonderful posts has given me the courage to make my own. VERY shy first poster. I am genderfluid, bi, and poly. I hope to make it to a gathering one year. My shyness always gets the best of me though. *blushes*
>This year's Dragon Con outfits was the premiere of my Dragoncon Cheerleader uniform (Varsity Squad) and my Gothic Lolita Doll outfit.
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>>10671390
Jesus I thought the sleeves of her blouse were arm flaps
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>>10671456
this is so off-putting i wish i'd been born blind
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>>10671456
For the sake of whoever she lives nearest, I hope her shyness continues to get the better of her. *retches*
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>>10671466
Dragoncon is in Atlanta, so I assume Georgia
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>>10671402
i want this blouse, anyone have any idea where it's from? i checked cof to see if this image was a recent post from there but it doesn't seem to be. if anyone knows who this is can you check their outfit rundown?
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>>10671456
>I am genderfluid, bi, and poly
i wonder if this person goes around introducing themselves like this offline too
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>>10671493
it looks like a taobao cardigan
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>>10671140
Lolita bowling ball
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>>10671496
>poly

That's really not well received by the lolita community. All the others are just snowflake status, but poly ironically doesn't get accepted the same.
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>>10671456
This...thing..looks like it'd be selling me wares out in a field in an RPG.
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>>10670673
IT'S HIP 2B SQUARE
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>>10671520
Oh fuck I just remembered I need to return some video tapes.
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nothing screams kawaii like men’s sweat socks
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>>10671456
Her blouse could be cute if not for the hideous Italian kitchen towel print
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>>10671456
aside from the image, why would bi and poly even be relevant to a coord?
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>>10671619
Who knows nonnie gulls constantly tack on stupid unrelated shit like this like their chronic illness for attention and performative asspats
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>>10671621
It’s always an unspecified chronic illness for some reason too. I assume it’s just their personality disorder acting up
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>>10671607
Has this dress literally ever been coorded well?
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>>10671607
that poor Meta dress ;_;
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>>10671407
Kek. She's too chicken shit to post this with a dick in her mouth.
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>>10671390
What an ugly, tacky, print
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yes, my friend won a coord contest a few weeks ago with that pink Meta OP
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>>10671740
Why feet so small
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>>10671498
that doesnt help at all
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>>10671758
She's just a hamplanet and her feet look small in comparison
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>>10671740
why does her boob look photoshopped
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>>10671795
I think the height to feet ratio is the part that is screwing me up, personally.

How does one get to be so tall with such smol feet? Those look like baby feet..
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>>10671428
Ok but this is lowkey wholesome

Can’t help but to imagine the moment the boyfriend decided to wear a single sad baby blue satin bow in his otherwise all black kinda edgy outfit only for the sake of having something matching with his girlfriend as something really cute

It’s silly and ridiculous, but happy couples tend to be silly and ridiculous, even itas deserve love
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>>10671390
>>10671393
>>10671399
How do you fuck up this badly…..

>>10671403
Did she alter this to make it shorter….?

>>10671456
The mask should stay on… never mind that “outfit”

>>10671740
I don’t understand how someone can looked photoshopped irl….
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>>10671812
I'm sure she shooped her boob to be less "droopy". You can see it when you compare with the other one.

Same thing with her small feet, the one on the right seems bigger
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>>10671867
>Did she alter this to make it shorter….?
She's tall
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>>10671740

this is the most unfortunate body structure i’ve ever seen
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>>10671903
Oh wow….
Only reason why I ask is because someone was buying up rare pieces just to turn them into gyaru disasters
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>>10671867
>How do you fuck up this badly…..
We're not ethot special snowflake fashion friendly, is my thought. Realistically, the only fashion the west has really gotten into is super unfriendly with lolita. There's just very little creative license that people get when doing instagram """j-fashion"""

Which is ironic, because lolita, jfashion, and cosplay is what inspired the ethots. Imagine.
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>>10671938
The round cut of MCD is really short too.
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Outsider looking in :

I understand you guys ripping on amateur models for wearing the wrong shoes with an outfit because that shit is a blatant war crime from an aesthetic standpoint. But also why the fuck are fat people always the biggest offender of turning a decent outfit into the most unappealing thing in the world?
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>>10671639
As someone with an unspecified auto immune disease that’s because many chronic illnesses are unbelievably hard to get a diagnosis for, even with top tier health insurance and resources. My health insurance is fucking awesome ( thank you tech job) but even then, we only know the family of disorders it’s related to. I’ve probably seen 80+ doctors in the last two years. On the support website for this family of conditions it says straight up it usually takes about ten years to get an official, specific diagnosis. Not saying they’re not blowing steam, but generally speaking the problem of people not believing people with chronic illness/disabilities is much greater than the problem of people claiming to have them.
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>>10671974
>But also why the fuck are fat people always the biggest offender of turning a decent outfit into the most unappealing thing in the world?
It's a Japanese fashion, so the expectation is you fit within a certain range of measurements for the 'styling' or 'silhouette' to look good.

Also with it also being based of rococo era silhouettes, there weren't really 'fat' people and corsets were used to create the silhouette. The major component of what makes something lolita is silhouette.

So you get people using their fat as petticoats and it looks weird and lumpy.
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>>10671982
>Also with it also being based of rococo era silhouettes, there weren't really 'fat' people
Not a single part of this is correct
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>>10671983
It's based on the silouhette as an influence on the fashion.

Get out of here with your newfaggy inline arguing ass.
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>>10671974
Probably because it’s hard to look good when you look like you’re about to collapse from heart failure at any given second.
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>>10670673
She said on her Instagram that she's on 4' 11" I can't imagine all that weight on such a short frame her joints must be in agony
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>>10671980
Jesus christ go blog somewhere else about it. No one cares.
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>>10671984
>It's based on the silouhette as an influence on the fashion.
Saying it again won't make it less wrong
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>>10671984
You sound 12, stfu and read a history book.
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>>10670673
I actually think she's low-key adorable however this is the reason I hate "plussize" as a label, I'm on the "smaller" end of plussize at size 18, most clothing stores go up to my size and lolita is so much more accessible now for us fatties than it was when I started 14 year's ago, like... If you have to rely on cheap replicas and custom sizing cus nothing fits you then you really should be spending the money on a gastric bypass. I'm tired of sharing my lane with the mega obese.
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>>10672022
then lose weight
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>>10672022
How the fuck is she adorable
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>>10672010
>>inline arguing like a newfag
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>>10672026
Fatties have a different concept of cute. If you look at CoF, it's fatties liking fatties. It's the only reason why any of the fat ones get near to 100 likes.
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>>10671104
This is what happens to literally everything that goes mainstream, what did you expect?
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>>10672025
I am, I'm making progress
>>10672026
Idk, I have shit taste I guess.
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>>10672026
>>10672030
The reason fatties give intra-fatty compliments is because they hope that saying it enough will convince others. And then maybe they, too, will be considered cute.

Unfortunately for them, it won't.
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>>10672041
Naomi Watanebe is kawaii af and you can't convince me otherwise.
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>>10672047
>Naomi Watanebe
Not sure what you're trying to prove. When your face is that round and turning into a neck. You can't be cute.

Sure she dresses quirky, but none of us non-fatties are going to think that's cute.
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>>10672047
She’s cute, and in general there’s tons of cute plus size lolitas. Tbh being pudgy and having a cute face is more kawaii than being skinny but cursed with an ugly mug. I think there’s a difference between saying plus size girls are kawaii and saying morbidly obese girls are kawaii. Lolita is actually quite flattering if you’re overweight and actually fit into the dress you’re wearing. The poof hides the cellulite legs, and a natural waist line can help hide rolls. I’d even argue that the enormous bowling ball girl looks better in her replica Frankendresses than she would in those fattie legging jeans and a t shirt. Still not a great look but she’s got a decent face and it’s probably her most flattering wardrobe option.
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>>10672051
She's literally morbidly obese.
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>>10672050
My bf is a none-fatty and he thinks im cute so...
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>>10672059
Means nothing. He probably has a min wage job and he's taking what he can get.
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>>10672059
That is literally the equivalent of:
>>My mom tells me I'm cute!

OK.
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>>10672061
Ha, jokes on you, he doesn't even have a job.
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>>10672063
That was the other option in my mind. Sorry bro. Lose weight and get a better bf.
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>>10672059
I hate to break this to you but there is a word for skinny guys that like fatties.....
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>>10671982
You had me until
>corset
>fat people.

Lmao no.
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>>10672038
>I am, I'm making progress
Good job, same
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>>10672052
Yeah but she still looks better in lolita than she would in normie clothes.
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I’m skinny and even I can see that there’s some serious projection going on here. Sorry you’re skinny but uggo and feel super insecure by the fact that not everyone thinks fat=ugly. Being skinny isn’t an attractive feature in and of itself.
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>>10672077
No one said it was, idiot. But being fat is unattractive in itself.
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>>10672078
It obvs isn’t for everybody anon. Do you not know how many terms there are for “chubby chasers”. I know it makes your sandy cunt blister, but there are tons of people out there who would find a fat girl cuter than you.
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>>10672084
There are people who have a fetish for literal shit, too. Doesn't make shit any more attractive.
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>>10672052
Not even overweight and I also find her cute for her hamplanet size. She has a pretty face and looks put together, I actually think she would look a lot more gross in normie clothes because all the frills, layering and bows distract from her size. Imagine her in a shirt that showed all her rolls.
Seen this girl way back, I think she's been into lolita for years and it surprises me she looks a lot better than many lower weight fatties who fail basic coording or grooming like >>10671928
She is a literal definition of ita though, she's painful to look at, she looks like she's going to keel over any day.
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>>10672085
Cry harder. I love chubby girls. Perfect body type.
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>>10672087
Yeah she has a very cute face. There’s actually quite a few pudgy girls I’ve seen who are “cuter” than thin girls but have major fit problems. People seem to forget that having an ugly face is pretty equally distributed across weights.
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>>10672089
Because you are a chubby girl, faggot. Kek what a cope
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>>10672084
Look at you saying that 'fat' is what society deems as the most attractive.

I guess that's why the only plus size models are usually in body acceptance-related mags.

Seriously, who are you kidding.
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>>10672091
It's a balance. It's because some skinnier girls have issues with nutrition, fat girls get more nutrition very likely, thus their complexion looks 'better.'

Pro-ana aren't traditionally going to have amazing skin forever, outside of teenage years/early 20's.

That being said, lolita isn't about 'the face looks good.' It's about clothing on a body.

Fat petticoats literally fail lolita by default.
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>>10672107
This is kind of interesting and I don't hate it but definitely not what I'd consider lolita.
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>>10672093
Try again anon. Cry. Harder.

>>10672099
No ones saying it’s the most attractive for everybody. It’s just a ridiculous cope to try and pretend that fat people are universally unattractive. It’s just no accurate.

>>10672101
True, some fat girls have ugly faces for sure. But some are genuinely cute. I mean the number of times people accuse skinny girls of being men because they’re ugly answers that. But desu it’s cgl, and everyone has to pretend that everyone is ugly and no one is acceptable.
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>>10672107
I hate it.
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>>10672107
This puts a little too much Nabokov in the Lolita look. A little too inspired
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>>10672113
I don't know why you're accusing everyone else of "coping" when you refuse to acknowledge the reality that almost everyone, except fetishists and genderspecial SJWs, finds obesity repulsive. Insulting other people won't change that reality anon
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>>10672116
Literally nothing about that look says "child from the 1940s" so I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. It's still a shitty coord but not at all like the book.
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>>10672118
iirc anon is referring to the stanley kubrik movie where she wears tops like that.
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>>10672118
1. It’s not a coord
2. It’s almost certainly drawing from the Kubrick aesthetic, which is gross.
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>>10672107
>LoLiTa fAsHiOn iS nOt a fEtIsH
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>>10672125
I mean nothing in this shit-tier outfit is any worse than many goth or punk outfits, but people don't go calling those fetishes. She isn't even showing thigh or cleavage. Itas who use harnesses, rope, and other sex toys look obviously fetishistic but this just looks plain ugly, like some kind of poor attempt at "modernizing" it.
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>>10672121
>>10672124
Did she say that? What about that coord is supposed to be Kubrick-inspired either? She doesn't wear anything close to that stuff in the movie.
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>>10672050
I’m on the lower side of average weight and I think she’s cute, I don’t think she’d look good in lolita though
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>>10672136
See >>10672121
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>>10672089
You can fuck off to Reddit then tourist
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>>10672143
She wear cutout boleros or tube tops? Since when? Seems like a reach.
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>>10672113
Look. You're not getting it. We look at other girls to see the clothes we love modeled on bodies that fit the clothes. The silhouette fails on fat people.

We don't want to see it stretched and fucked up from fatties wearing it. Sure face can matter, but the issue is that if I see seams busting on on Iron Gate or Sugary Carnival then how the fuck are we going to think that's 'cute'
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>>10672107
Pouch is neat. The rest is just weird. I get what they are going for but it'd be better if she wore a whole top that was red and not a tube top.
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>>10672107
I actually don't hate the concept, but the crop top/tube top detracts from it too much. The middle pic looks kind of cute except the random bar of skin on the midriff. And the other two shots just showcase how the tube top detracts from the color blocking + silhouette of the look. If it was a full length tanktop or a blouse with a sweetheart neckline the look would be much more cohesive.
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>>10672167
It's just clothes anon, get a grip.
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>>10672201

>Big and beautiful at any size

Hey that dress isn’t going to fit

>PFFT. WHATEVER, I’M HOT

>proceeds to rip a 2000 dollar dress in half to put it on

My god

>OH STOP BEING MAD ANON ITS JUST CLOTHES
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>>10672089
Tell me your a fat lezbean without telling me your a fat lezbean....
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>>10672202
Why do you care if its not your dress? Such a weird/entitled mindset to have...
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>>10672107
Did she/they/he/it at least shave her/their/his/its armpits?
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>>10672205
Welcome to lolita. It's OUR dress.

Realistically, there's a reason why Japan created a term 'ita.' I'm not sure what you're not comprehending about our culture, but if you don't like it, then you don't have to involve yourself with the community.
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>>10672205
You clearly don’t know the value of an item if that’s your mindset fag.
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>>10672205
That shit makes it's way into second hand and the dresses are limited. It's ruining a limited piece of artwork. Then you posting it, is openly flaunting to the rest of us that you're ruining it. You're actually spitting in our face.

Do you get it, now?
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>>10672209
They probably only buy clolita and think they can have opinions on burando. Imagine.
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>>10672208
>>10672209
Honestly you guys sound weird af, I've been into lolita for 14 year's, it's just clothes, get a grip.
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>>10672213
>>into
You mean staring at and being too fat to wear? Got it.
The case is cracked, boys. Let's roll out.
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>>10672218
EL GOBLINA
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>>10672211
And? You think pro-ana fags aren't stinking up the burando with their decaying pits? I just don't get your logic as the clothes value decreases significantly as soon as the store sells it to you, lolita is not haute couture, it's a a street fashion with a very niche market, you're just a fanatic.
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>>10672218
Who the fuck is making these retarded edits? Let the coord speak for itself
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>>10672222
>It’s just street fashion with a niche community, you’re just obsessed.

Sorry, not all of us are born with a silver spoon whore.
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>>10672215
I hope someone cumshits on your dream dress you cunt.
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>>10672222
>You think pro-ana fags aren't stinking up the burando with their decaying pits
What the fuck are you even talking about? Anorexics have pungent BO now? If anyone has sweaty pits, it's the fatties who work up a sweat just climbing a single flight of stairs.
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>>10672226
Oh I get it, you're lolita at heart, so cute.
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>>10672228
Omg no I use to be friends with the Ana chick and holy shit she wreaked so I just assumed they all did.
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>>10672223
Not nearly as retarded as TikTok edits.
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I wouldn't hate this entirely if it weren't for the shoes.
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>>10672228
>Anorexics have pungent BO now?
yes because their bodies are decaying from malnutrition, their breath and teeth are usually fucked from purging. Give me sweat smell over the smell of bile and rot any day.
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>>10672246
stinky breath isn't "decaying pits" anon
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>>10672256
A quick Google says that, yes, in fact, anorexia does make your body odor worse.
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>>10672257
*Can, not does
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>>10672227
Lmfao. At least I can wear it and get fucked by someone, fat-ass. You literally can't get either.
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>>10672229
Cgl is full of lolita at heart fatties nowadays.

Looks like we got 'em.
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>>10672245
I can literally see the 'stache.
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>>10672301
I'll squeeze into it and let your dad cum all over my boobloaf whore.
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>>10672311
>>Sarcasm
You totally insulted my dead dad. I'm so offended.

At least I can wear lolita. You're on a board that's entirely dedicated to lolita posting continuously for hours, without being able to wear it. Congrats.
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>>10672313
Did he die of embarrassing from knowing that you were his winning sperm?
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>>10672315
Bruh. I've got a lot more going for me than just not being overweight.

You're just particularly dense to not understand the fashion is not meant for fatties. Go cry into your spaghetti.
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>>10672325
That’s a lot of words coming from a coping fattie
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>>10672336
Seethe replica wearing fridge
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>>10671974
because fat people need to alter, or buy off brand, that only sometimes fits properly. so they're working with scraps on bodies that are already unappealing
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>>10671982
there were absolutely fat people in the rococo era, you just couldn't tell because they were wearing fucking flat screens

and they wore STAYS in rococo era, not corsets. stays. which aren't reductive.

and lolita fashion is realy more victorian's children's clothes/dior new look than it is rococo, aside from trims
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>>10672078
wow someone hasn't had their rice cake and splenda today
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>>10672383
How big of a whale do you have to be to suggest that normal sized human beings starve themselves? You must have absolutely no concept of a normal-sized humans diet.
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>>10672050
>>10672047
She definitely has a cute face, but her body is morbidly obese and unhealthy. I do like some of her style though.
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>>10671826
she doesnt have small feet, she just has extreme fat rolls lol
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>>10672059
Lmao pathetic
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>>10672218
booba
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>>10672037
Her cottage cheese arm made me retch wtf, cover it up. This, this is why lolitas wear blouses.
what the actual fuck.
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>>10671982
>no fat people
>used corsets for the silhouette
Why did they need corsets then?
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>>10672047
>>10672050
she looks like a man. yellow fever is fucking tragic.
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>>10672463
Many corsets had padding so the corset was only a bit smaller than your waist while the but and hips might be larger than your actual measurements and m padded out. There have been fat people in every time period though, thinner people and smaller young women just also wore corsets for the curvature. Bernadette Ashman on YT does tons of historical clothing related stuff and has a couple informative videos on how good quality corsets typically worked or were worn back in the day.
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>>10672482
It's not a real question autist.
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>>10671425
he's losing weight? Good for him.
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>>10672482
The definition of what was fat in the rococo era is different. They were a little above average bmi from how it looks like.

I think people are forgetting what people call fat, isn't what fat people were back then. They are just too busy eating their twinkies to think.
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>>10672485
The mocking commentary doesn't do anything for you, when everyone else actually is aware of these details. It just makes you look like a newfag. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>10672381
>and lolita fashion is realy more victorian's children's clothes/dior new look than it is rococo, aside from trims

It's not based off of what you 'think it looks like.' It's based off of rococo fashion. Go read a little bit, newfag.
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>>10672490
not to mention we literally have no way of knowing how big people got since there was no video or phtographs at the time.(even though they changed photos as soon as photographs came into
being. even portrait paintings were basically photoshop, perfect ideals of their commissioners. fat men existed in royalty anyway based on historical evidence and being overweight was a sign of luxury. it wasn't even documented until the health obsession of the Victorian era that weight was even important, thats when being extremely skinny was first really recorded as being in fashion and synonymous with being a humble woman who didn't want for anything.
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>>10672494
have you ever even seen pinkhouse?
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>>10672494
Please take your own advice
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>>10672494
Source?
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>>10672494
a wonderful example of the Dunning–Kruger effect
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>>10672490
I mean yeah people now get far fatter than they used to for sure, but tubbier people were still around. Just because they weren't morbidly obese doesn't mean they weren't fat or overweight. And many of them who were thin or normal were skinnyfat too. But the point was more that even thin women have reason to wear corsets for shape and the corset doesn't just cinch your waist inward a ton, many of them were worn to also push the hips and bust outward.
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>>10672508
Our average BMI is what was fat back then. That is why 'fat' people didn't exist. Also no one said corsets weren't used for that. I think this board is just full of anons who insert things that were never said because they are reactable SJW shites.
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>>10672496
>even portrait paintings were basically photoshop, perfect ideals of their commissioners

This implies people may have been fatter than we think or in a less flattering way than we think. Since they just had themselves painted to be more attractive in size and shape. Which makes sense. When you're a God anointed leader, everyone will lie and never admit or get caught calling you too fat or ugly, and the portrait painters will make the royals look like the best version of themselves possible to keep that sweet sweet family money flowing.
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>>10672513
>no one said corsets weren't used for that.

>>10672463
>>no fat people
>>used corsets for the silhouette
>Why did they need corsets then?

I just saw this part and it seems like that's what they were claiming, so I was explaining why non fat people would have used corsets. I was not previously a part of this conversation.
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>>10672513
Also I get that you're saying what the norms are and what was common in the past but to pretend bigger people didn't exist is a bit illogical. They weren't one meal away from eating themselves to death like some people are now but they had doughy, chubby, and some obviously overweight even by modern standards people. You can kinda look at most people and see if they are fat or not without needing BMI, and we know even from flattering paintings like anons mentioned above they were at best chubby in many cases and in some actually fat. I agree it's way more common to see fatter people now but there were fat people back then, regardless of the degree of fatness, they were fat.
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The bone rattling in here is too loud
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All of this itas “coords” are like this. Doesn’t wear a blouse half the time, No proper head wear, no actual Lolita dress, no actual Lolita blouse, no actual Lolita skirt, just off brand garbage from TKmax and then she has the audacity to make a video whining about how she’s a victim because a Lolita told her she couldn’t wear doll tights and yes, SHE GENUINELY CALLS THIS LOLITA
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>>10672764
Huh, before you explained all of that I was actually inclined to say hi to her.
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>>10672764
Fuck. This is another one of those RPG battle poses.

Do all the itas do this?
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>>10672789
They treat the fashion like a costume so of course they do.
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>>10672764
OP here I thought I’d elaborate some more. When I say “off brand” I don’t mean from taobao I mean from target or shein.
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>>10672107
lmao this was from a break all the rules challenge in a closed group nice vendetta you've got there
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>>10672107
This is just tasteless.
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>>10672764
I mean...you don't have to be a lolita to wear doll tights though....
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IMO everyone over a bmi of 25 should not be participating in the fashion and first get their lives together. Ofc there are thin itas but you can teach them to improve their coords. You can't teach a fatty to not be fat, you can only exclude them until they've the right body to be taught how to coord.
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>>10672893
based take desu. If anything lolita is a good weight loss motivator, being able to fit your dream dress feels great
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>>10672893
>can't teach a fatty to not be fat
How do you think they lose weight? By literally teaching them how not to be fat, and then them following those teachings. It's not the lolira community's responsibility to help fat people get their lives together but you literally can teach them not to be fat kek
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>>10672899
You can try but they won't listen
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>>10672877
The issue is that they are wearing doll tights and specifically calling it lolita as well as wearing garbage from target and calling it lolita but a larper like you wouldn’t know the difference
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>>10672899
I know from personal experience that most will not lose weight unless they really want to. That's why most people don't start getting their shit together until they are at their lowest low (i.e heart attack, diagnosed with diabetes etc....)
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>>10672857
Jesus what kind of asshole does that
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>>10672899
You can't teach a fatty how to have willpower.
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>>10672893
the self projection is astonishing
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>>10672895
Agreed. I got back into the fashion and got a little chubbier right after (thx pandemic) and it just was motivation to work hard despite not moving around much because of WFH.
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>>10673031
This was true for me as well. I used to weigh 230 lbs and I wanted to wear cute clothes (and look good in them) so badly. Whenever I would feel myself tempted to binge eat I would think to myself 'I want to wear ____ more then I want chocolate'. It might seem like a shallow reason to get healthy, but it really helped me.
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>>10672759
She looks like a balloon version of Bjork
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>>10673037
OT but what is this cropped sailor hoodie? been looking for something like this
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Ladies these are horrible.

Post more.
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Being bangsless is ita.
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>>10673115
being makeup less is also ita
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>>10673115
That happy garland DIY is shitty, but so is the whole coordinate
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Saw a cute girl at the con with a dress don't know if ita or anime cosplay but she was beautiful. How do I make her my girlfriend next time I see her?
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>>10673115
I don't disagree but what about the poor gulls who look bad in bangs
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>>10673118
Chloroform
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>>10673037
This is cute, better than most of the CoF thread
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>>10673115
Is this a replica? It’s so shiny and not the knockoff garland
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>>10673121
maybe lolita is just not for them
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>>10673122
Use of chloroform as an incapacitating agent has become widely recognized, bordering on clichéd, due to the popularity of crime fiction authors having criminals use chloroform-soaked rags to render victims unconscious. However, it is nearly impossible to incapacitate someone using chloroform in this manner.[49] It takes at least five minutes of inhaling an item soaked in chloroform to render a person unconscious. Most criminal cases involving chloroform also involve another drug being co-administered, such as alcohol or diazepam, or the victim being found to have been complicit in its administration. After a person has lost consciousness due to chloroform inhalation, a continuous volume must be administered and the chin must be supported to keep the tongue from obstructing the airway, a difficult procedure typically requiring the skills of an anesthesiologist. In 1865 as a direct result of the criminal reputation chloroform had gained, medical journal The Lancet offered a "permanent scientific reputation" to anyone who could demonstrate "instantaneous insensibility", i.e. losing consciousness instantaneously, using chloroform.

As fun as it sounds to do It seems like too much work and the results seem not be so effective I'll just talk to her and do it the easy way.
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>>10673128
soup, did you forget to namefag?
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>>10673132
Like I was saying, Saw a cute girl at the con with a dress don't know if ita or anime cosplay but she was beautiful. How do I make her my girlfriend next time I see her?
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>>10673135
wear ouji, its that simple.
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>>10673136
Is that stuff expensive? Also I have very long hair what would be something that would look with that?
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>>10673140
At this point just wear lolita
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>>10673142
no stop.
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>>10673151
The meme for some of them is "if ur rich I'm your bitch", so just get money and fuck bitches, it's that easy
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>>10673115
Being bangless isn't ita as long as you do something with your hair to make it look cute. Leaving it like this without makeup makes it look like you just rolled out of bed
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>>10670673
who is she?
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>>10673213
petitetomoyo on insta. no, really. she has “petite” in her username.
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>>10670976
>don't use these terms or you are a cis nazi
>but still abide by what they stand for and get nice lace
hmmm
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>>10673227
Damn, she's a real landwhale. How can her torso be so disproportionally large?
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>>10673227
"petite" just refers to her height, she's 4ft-something
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>>10673241
This, most likely
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>>10673115
Being bangsless is not ita but I would at least arrange my hair if I'm going out or taking a photo

>>10673125
I doubt it. Sugar Hearts is a little shiny, especially when there's flash on a camera or bad lighting
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>>10672893
Nah my BMI 30 will continue to wear what I want
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>>10673259
under 25 bmi and will continue to wear what I want as well.
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>>10673259
And we'll post you here, if you post anywhere.

You already know what to expect.

Yw.
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>>10673259
others wear what they want , you wear what you can. that's the difference.
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>>10673270
basically this. fatties being forced to sew together dresses is always funny to me.
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>>10673270
lmfao.
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>>10673275
They're doing this to themselves, they could loose weight or pick clothes that actually fit them instead
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>>10673270
You do realize that BMI means nothing right? My BMI is 30 and I wear mainly AP
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>>10673293
"BMI means nothing" yeah if you're a body builder, sure, then it doesn't matter, but i highly doubt you are.
just because you can force your body to squeeze into full shirring doesn't mean you "fit" into AP
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>>10673293
>my bmi is 30 and i wear mainly AP
the jokes write themselves
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For once I just want a thread where you ignorant ita fucks don’t argue about who’s the biggest ita….

I really do.
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>>10673293
what are ur measurements anon
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Any coord is passable as long as the person wearing it takes care of their skin and hair. At least normies know they need a skincare/haircare/hairstyling routine. Every lolita I've met thinks the clothes will hide their laziness to look half-presentable. Y'all are itas. Take some tips from the normie fashion you despise every once in a while
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>>10673323
100% agreed on the fact that lolitas tend to underestimate the importance of personal hygiene and doing selfcare besides of buying stuff.
I wouldn't say that "any coord is passable as long as the person wearing it takes care of themselves" though. You could literally be a Misako look-a-like but if you lack the knowledge, taste and coordination skills you'll still be ita even if you're pretty and take care of yourself.
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>>10673293
Only delusional fatties constantly spew about BMI being wrong or whatever. Yes its not perfect and usually you would need to pair it with a body fat percentage test to be more accurate, but for the average person, you should not have a BMI higher then like 25 unless you are an athlete. (and just so you know, having a super high BMI on an athlete is unhealthy too. Being overweight with muscle instead of fat is still bad for your joints)
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>>10673329
Nta and all but a lot of things about being an athlete are bad on your joints not just too much or too heavy muscle. If you're pro in many sports you're pushing your body to the limit and wrecking the shit out of it
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>>10673300
Fatties love AP

But it's basically a fact that a lot of fat girls are delusional about their weight and measurements, until they actually start taking care of themselves.

Source: "I'm curvy"
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>>10673293
This is such obvious bait you're all so retarded.
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>>10673336
I would think so except I've met tons of fatties IRL that talk and think like this un-ironically.
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>>10673336
What >>10673338 is true.

A lot of them run off about how they aren't fat but curvy, despite being 100x the size of a lot of other people and half of the time they are just the shape of an Apple.
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>>10673340
convex curves are still curves lmao
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>>10673332
No one is saying become a pro and overdo it anon. But even distance running is proven to be actually good for your mobility and joints in old age if you do it several times a week throughout your life
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>>10673353
kek
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>>10673336
ive seen enough fatties stuffed into AP to know that >>10673293 is true for some of these girls
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>>10673135
Just asked what was the best way to get to know a lita and you act this way. Why are litas so difunctional and hate to see happiness for their kind. Wish I need what would be a good way to attract litas = (. screw you.
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>>10673466
Kys
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>>10673465
Just because you can pull it over your body, doesn't mean it fits you - when will they learn?
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>>10673600
(YOU) Leave me alone. I am going to get a LYTV GF and I will laugh at CGL all day with her.
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>>10673867
nayrt and also not sure if you’re trolling or serious, but either way, you should actually kys for your responses.
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>>10673465
holy shit those legs
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