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>>10633377
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>graphic design is my passion
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>>10643591
This is legitimately some of the worst graphic design I have seen lmao
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>>10643963
I honestly thought this thread image was a joke until I looked up La Foret myself.
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>>10643964
It looks some pretentious shit from parsons school of design lmao
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>>10643591
I mean, maybe graphic design *is* their passion and they just love Swiss design
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>>10643963
Newfag. All the Granba designs are tacky as shit.
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>>10643591
Ugliest thread pic ever lol
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>>10643963
That's nothing, check out the instagram filters
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>>10644048
I want to die
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>>10644048
incredible honestly
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I'm pruning down my massive wishlist currently, I also have a bit more bicep than to safely assume I fit everything (AP also does not know what consistency is). I can't find a jfash help thread and don't want to start one either. LM listings usually use the vague or nonexistent Lolibrary measurements. The items I'm interested in bicep measurements on are Sugar Pansy OP (regular), Rose Damascene OP, Present check OP, Mary Gingham OP (2012), Marshmallow Bunny OP, Decoration Dream OP, Short Sleeve Jewel Blouse (2013 version with the lamé fabric), Dessert Berry Blouse, Toy Fantasy Blouse, AP Crown Blouse, Kitty Collar Blouse, Logo Embroidered Lace Jabot Blouse, Lyrical Bunny Bowtie Blouse, Melty Chocolate Button Down Blouse, Rose Scallop Original Lace Blouse, Sugar Hearts Blouse, Sugar Pansy Blouse, Usakumya's Sweet Heart Blouse. Thank you anons!
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BABY announcing several GranBa specials:
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>>10644186
I want to love the new dress colors but only the mauve ribbons with the black fabric and white lace is so ugly. Why couldn’t the dress be mauve too?!
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>>10644187
sorry you have no fucking taste.
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>>10644187
>so ugly
Are we looking at the same dress? Lol
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>>10644203
Idk the color scheme works really well on ginger doll but on the baby doll jsk it looks unbalanced and kinda random
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>>10644186
Why is Ginger Doll popular? I never got it, is it tied to some sort of intellectual property that's on par with Kamikaze Girls? It's always seemed ugly for something so expensive to me. Genuinely wondering how it became such an iconic design
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Lumiebre is closing and has already deleted their social media. If anyone wants to grab some of their parasols or archive their website, this is likely your last chance to do so.
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>>10644288
it's honestly tragic. they're just too good, you buy one and you're good for life.
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why does no one from LM ever sell MmM ? there's always very very very few pieces there, is it just because gothic lolita isn't as popular as sweet/classic or something?
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>>10644361
Oh it's popular. These are probably the main reasons for the lack of (good) Moitie on LM:
1. Good deals are sniped quickly.
2. There are Moitie hoarders/collectors out there who rarely sell things, so few pieces end up on the secondhand market.
3. Lots of sales are done between friends/acquaintances outside of LM
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>>10644361
They've never been as easily obtained brands, along with the fact that people who buy MmM tend to horde it. They horde it and collect that shit forever.

A lot of their good releases also are years and years ago, when it was a lot harder to obtain overseas goods and MmM wasn't that easy to obtain.

I literally see the same AP Cherry Berry Bunny floating around that I sold back in 2013, when I got it from Japan originally. LM is just a recycle of what comes out of Japan.
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>>10644251
It had a matching collab doll outfit set with Super Dollfie iirc, so I think the novelty and intersect of rare limited set and doll collectors which have a pretty similar market to lolitas made it even more desirable.

At least back at the time, I don't know if dollfies are anywhere near as desirable now, my doll knowledge is all secondhand osmosis.

>>10644288
Oh no! I hadn't heard about this, when did it get announced? I still wanted to get an inner design umbrella from them someday. Like other anon said their umbrellas last forever, I bought mine almost a decade ago now and it's still going strong.
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>>10644186
I know the answer is probably no but are there any SSes doing this release? I really want Ginger Doll.
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>>10644423
It's Charlotte in my closet room ver.
You'd still be looking at at least $1k for the fullset today
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>>10644454
I'm going but only for myself. I don't trust a random gull to pay me upfront or to not file a PayPal complaint over taking too long to ship for MTOs that release months later.
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>>10644511
I mean if you're not bullshitting I could link e-mail and send feedback proof?
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>>10644562
In the past I was a small SS. When impatient newfags didn't understand how MTOs worked, a few flipped their shit when the 6 month PP buyer protection date crept up and the dresses didn't arrive yet. PP sided with the buyers and here we are. I'm never helping randos again.
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Does a coord need bloomers?
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>>10644658
This isn't the stupid questions thread, retard.
And the answer is- at least get some safety shorts.
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>>10644613
That sucks, anon. I hope you get chosen for the lottery and I really wish Baby would stop being so damn restrictive about so many of their MTOs.
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>>10645603
Did you get lost, scrote?
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For the anons who said packages didn't get forwarded from USPS in previous threads.

They do. I moved and Japan SAL is slow AF right now. Glad to see I don't have to drive down the street and harass my old neighbors any more.

I literally stalked the mail man on Saturday to try to make sure I got it. But it got forwarded.

Also FYI informed delivery is pretty cool too. I'd really recommend signing up for anyone who is buying things often.
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>>10646071
Yeah, this happened recently to me too. Baby finally shipped my order after months of waiting to my old address, but the package got forwarded to my new address.
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>>10644048
Nightmare fuel
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Just curious, what's the longest you had to wait for a dress? I'm waiting for the chiropteran garden jsk from last November. Granted, apparently there was an issue with production that affected the black colorway (which is the one I got). I see some people have already gotten theirs.
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>>10647065
Never ordered any MTOs before this year, so I guess waiting for the Elizabeth OP and SC are gonna be mine. I got the cross JSK from Summertales back in January and it arrived like a week or two ago, I saw a lot of people with theirs before I got mine
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>>10647065
AP’s Toy Doll Box took a while. Ordered 9/19, supposed to arrive 7/20, actually shipped out 10/20 bc pandemic
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>>10646071
It really depends on your area and how good, or bad, USPS is. Because I have all sorts of annoying issues with mine, from carriers not even stopping by then seeing on the website that no one was available (and I have literally been outside all day, where I would have seen anyone coming to my house) and worse.
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>>10647065
Elizabeth OP MTO, I'll finally be receiving it in a few days. Only to be rivaled by the most recent Hawase Doll release, which will take an entire 6 months to get to me, if not more
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>>10647299
You got a shipping notification for Elizabeth? I haven’t gotten mine yet :( but I already received Hawase doll, it wasn’t an MTO
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>>10647371
I had an SS pick it up in store sometime in April! My Hawase Doll ended up being the January release, but I'm still glad I was able to get it
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>>10647065
The MTO for Honey Cake might've taken close to a year? I can't remember anymore, but BtSSB tends to be pretty accurate with their projected delivery dates because they have a better idea of the amount of expected people ordering x time production takes.

And they tend to underpromise/overdeliver when it comes to pushing second round dates out, when I was in a second batch for Elizabeth JSK it came in earlier than expected.
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>>10647513
The MTO opened at the beginning of June and delivered early January
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>>10647627
Ah, thanks for the correction. Probably felt longer to me because I did it through SS rather than waiting for it to hit stateside.
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I think the worn thread saged, can anyone help me find photos of VM's Coppelia Doll OP worn?
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>>10648173
Might have better luck in the classic general.
Not a clear picture but alcci on ig has it
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Meta's cat/cake dress will be offered in a "plus plus" size, with a waist that starts at 38.5 inches.

I never want to hear a fatty complain about brands ever again.
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>>10649741
But anon, AP is the only brand that matters and everything else is off-brand
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>>10649767
>>10649741
Meta has been releasing Plus and Plus Plus sizes for a while now. Anon is right for some reason the people with complaints only care about AP but they don't care enough to just drop the cash to alter their clothes larger I guess.

Meta did fuck up on one of their plus sizes recently though. They released a plus sized dress and then used elastic that was too tight so the dress did not fit the correct measurements. Mine still fit me but Kuroshiro Kawaii sent out emails to people who bought through them saying Meta was offering to alter the dresses to the correct measurements for free by changing the elastic out.
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Did the Milky Planet jewelry ever get replicas made of them? To the point that they were as common as the Milky Planet and Sugary Carnival replicas? I'm trying to collect the entire Milky Planet series and am worried that some opportunistic scammer might have made some.
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>>10650780
I don't think I've ever seen an exact replica of an AP jewelry design.
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>>10649767
AP should do some special MTOs that have super fatty size so they will shut up.
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>>10650780
these would honestly be so easy to make knockoffs of but the issue is with the laser cut acrylic the amount you need to order per color is insane. so it's probably not worth it.
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https://www.laforet.ne.jp/pop_up_shop/GothicAndLolitaMarket_2107/
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Has anyone bought from Onegaishi before? I bought a pre-order dress from them that was supposed to ship 1st week in July and I've heard nothing about it
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>>10650890
bought 4 dresses from them and some other stuff but it was all in stock. never had a problem but haven't tried a pre-order from them myself. maybe send an email?
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>>10650834
They did that with hunni kek though and it had the opposite effect
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>>10649741
How deathbed is someone to have a 38.5 inch waist...starting?!
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>>10650894
Buying from a notorious scalper sounds like newfag shit.
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>>10651071
why are you mad
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>>10650890
A person in my com bought a dress from them, it was overpriced but on her wishlist. Came with stains that was not mentioned in the listing. I don’t think they wash their clothes. She got a refund and sent it back. Onegashi then resold it with said stains...they seem a bit shady.
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>>10649741
AP is great and all, but look at this print! There is an adorable cat pushing a shopping cart. This should satisfy every plus sized sweet tooth
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>>10651377
that sad tubby kitten poking a cherry is adorable
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>>10651377
The colors are too dull for people who are hyped for the pastel AP trend
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I might be moving abroad next year and I'm trying to sell off all my lolita since I don't wear it anymore and it feels bittersweet.
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>>10651403
Not the anon, but I'm also tired of hearing fatties whine. There are plenty of options, including with AP.
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Can anyone work out what this is a photo of? A cape?
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>>10651460
maybe 2 apron colorways laid out on top of each other?
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>>10651477
That's a possibility, thanks! This looks like good quality for VF so I'm looking forward to seeing this release.
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>>10651460
didn’t they say it was a blouse?
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>>10651460
Someone asked in the comments. Apparently it's the collar of a blouse on top of a half apron.
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>>10651377
I think this is quite cute. All the colorways are nice. Damn, wanting this an twinkle journey, but can't decide on colorways.
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Anyone seen Lor's newest video? I feel like the idea of co-ording Whipped Magic in different ways had so much potential, but can't understand the outfits she puts together. I wish she wasn't the youtuber with the most reach, I hate the thought that a newbie will watch this and think an outfit like this is acceptable and 'lolita'. Anyone else notice how she doesn't wear a single traditional blouse all video? Why is it always plasticy/see through ones that she uses?
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>>10651510
The gloves, wig, and hat are all so bad.
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>>10651510
i wish she would just say some racial slur or something so we can cancel her and lessen her reach on youtube
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>>10651541
she is too careful, poor thing is getting beaten by Holly tho
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>>10651510
How does her makeup and styling get worse with each passing day?
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>>10651549
I think lor is trapping holly for her queer points
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>>10651562
She really is starting to toe the line into “What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?” territory.
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>>10651510
It had SO MUCH potential.
>coord it more or less OTT
>coord it with different colors (pink, green, yellow, white)
>coord it with normie clothes
But instead we got "How to dress like a cheap taobao fucking ita, even if you own AP!"
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>>10651640
I did think that maybe she can't fit brand blouses.. But even then she must fit something from taobao in a more traditional lolita style? It just makes no sense. That poor JSK being stretched out too...
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Did anyone here hear back from the Baby SF lottery for the Classical series? Normally notifications are out by this time the first day.
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>>10651510
What is up with that thing in the background? Looks like she uses giant trash bags as curtains
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>>10652377
Do you mean the tinsel?
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>>10653332
I don't want to give her views. Could you summarize or give a tldr version?
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>>10654473
well most of the time normies like that are really stupid and the itas even worse.
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Anyone else see this new 'brand' advertising on depop? https://www.rosecoloredmaiden.com/
The website is mid-90s cringe and this person is clearly a couple years sewing experience away from making anything worth selling.
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>>10654829
>https://www.rosecoloredmaiden.com/
That website burned my eyes. Holy crap. If you can't design a website, you can't design a dress...
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>>10654829
It looks like they didn't press anything while they were sewing. This is Regretsy-tier.
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>>10654829
their face mask design is almost cute? not well executed, but could be cute if done right. or I'm just retarded and spent too long wishing excentrique would come back, so now anything that looks like corsets makes me happy
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>>10654849
Bibelot Rose 2.0?
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All the jumperskirts are only one size with no shirring or lacing so it can't be adjusted at all, I bet it's all the owner's size because they don't know how to grade patterns
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>>10654829
hmm yes today i will buy $120 poorly-made amateur "indie brand" dress instead of spending $120 on used burando
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>>10654849
Lord I thought I was the only one. I tried two different monitors as well. Everything looks so cheap and unfinished.
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>>10654849
wow, that is literally a kids site I think. There is no way an adult that graduated 5th grade thought that colour scheme, construction and price was okay. This has to be an elaborate troll lmao
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>>10654918
god those pearl bows are so fucking sad. at first i was going to say they just look like hime gyaru shit but god...even they have more taste and they just cover everything in rhinestones.
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>>10654919
>construction and price was okay
are we looking at the same site...
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>>10654959
Reread their sentence lmao

We have all literally been blinded by the radioactive magenta
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>>10654977
oh lmao, you are right. I looked at the site then read that post and saw a period after colour scheme. I have been blinded.
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This series is so beautiful. I love BABY's flower crowns.
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>>10657661

god i hate it when btssb's dresses don't have enough poof at the bottom so it looks like a jellyfish instead of a nice cupcake shape.
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>>10657662
I like it. Don't always have to look like a birthday cake
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baby ily but why tf is this sissy shit $1000
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>>10658799
Even the model looks uncomfortable lmao
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>>10658799
This is absolutely awful. It looks like a cheap Halloween costume.
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>>10658799
The tulle is hideous. I'm glad AP got rid of it for the Candy Fairy rerelease.
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Based wunderwelt
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>>10659045
TIL I'm a person of Asian descent. Fuck I wish I never fucked my growth spurt up with ednos.
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>>10658799
It's actually not bad in person, its a rerelease of a dress from 2012 and was shown in the mister rococo short film. Skip to the 3 minute mark to see it.
Their current photo editor is just awful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCVkmuzmHiE
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>>10657661
I like the artwork but I wouldn't wear it; I hope they release a tote or some kind of novelty with this print.

>>10658799
I laughed when I saw this preview, everything about this looks so silly.

>>10659045
Lol. What item is this? Some of the JP indie and taobao brands have descriptions that are weird like this, so I bet it was written by the brand.
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Did anyone else get tickets for the Vegas event? I did in a whim since they did a second round of sales, even if it's shit I'm looking forward to seeing friends again and getting drunk.
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>>10659320
The girl running this is a notorious ita and can't even run a small meetup without being a borderline scammer.
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>>10659436

What does she do that is borderline scamming? I'm hella curious now.
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>>10659436
Sauce, I almost bought tickets
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>>10659320
can't be as bad as dream fantasy theater
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>>10659320
Yeah we're gonna need more details on this. They followed me on IG last year before they had to reschedule due to pandemic, and something just felt really off about the whole thing.
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>>10659698
They kept following and unfollowing me on IG last year which left a sour taste in my mouth. You're an event, not some egirl trying to get more followers.
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>>10659725
They did that to me too which I thought was kinda weird
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>>10659725
I don't recall them ever unfollowing me but it was my Etsy's shop account, so maybe that's why they were keeping an eye on me?
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>>10659320
A lot of the Austin comm is going. I'm looking forward to hanging out in vegas even if the event isn't great. An excuse to hang out and take cute photos seems worth it.
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>>10659725

that sounds annoying, but tons of people do it unfortunately

Interested in scamming deets though.
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Is BSoLF dead?
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>>10659813
always has been
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>>10659813
I hope.
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thoughts?
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>>10661269
cute compared to some of the latest aatp stuff but wish it was a kumya print instead of cap chris
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>>10661269
I love this, source?
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>>10661273
nvm I'm dumb
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>>10661274
at least you're pretty, dear
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>>10661279
yeah, pretty stupid
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>>10661269
I like the idea but the art looks very simple, like clip art? which is especially strange on this quality of fabric
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>>10661269
You can't post this and not post the purple and orange colorway
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>>10661358
Literally what the fuck

Purple and orange???
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>>10661399
it's a halloween print and similar combos aren't uncommon for aatp
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>>10661426
ok fine the more i look at it, it's kinda cute. but i just know someone will try to squeeze into it with unwashed hair and wear cheap plastic pumpkin barrettes with it
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>>10661271
big baby
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>>10661479
Honestly this is pretty cute, in an only-okay-to-wear-on-Halloween way
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>>10659436
Are you sure ur not getting her confused with the seattle comm leader
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>>10659772
>>10659698
>>10659441

Not that anon, but Im in the same comm as RVR host and im not aware of any scamming she has done (if so, please telk us) however the comm leader of the main seattle comm constantly scams members for money. She even held a "fundraiser" once and it disappeared.
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>>10661358
Forget the colorway, what is going on with the cut??
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>>10661479
This is like the worst Halloween release I‘ve ever seen. Literally costume-tier below Taobao. What the everloving heck is that hem?
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>>10661479
It's so ugly :(
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>>10661479
>neon orange x bright purple x brown???
>print doesn't match those colours in the slightest
>awkward sailor collar
>orange "liquid" underskirt with random lace stitched on top??
everything about this release looks so forced and random, I hate it
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You guys must have never seen anything AATP lately based on your reactions to this Halloween dress.
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>>10661479
lmaooo i thought this was a taobao print until i saw the aatp logo
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>>10661426
It's hideous regardless
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god damn it, this hag is back to ask more basic questions she could figure out by using the search function and then call us all transphobes when people tell her to stop being a retard
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>>10661483
Her meets were like that big event in Florida that was over hyped- too many promises and no delivery on it. The meets were over priced and bland as hell.
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>hand badge
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Why are facebook lolitas still whinging about cgl in 2021? Almost everyone posts or reads here, most just aren’t open about it.
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>>10663102
>>10663506
>>10663545
Facebook Lolita groups are toxic cesspools. Please keep telling these idiots CGL is bad so they don't come ruin our space.
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>>10661269
It reminds me of Tricky Nightmare Factory but less cute
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>>10661358
>>10661479
Baby has been on crack. This and many other horrible designs plus the constant shoop of one of the poor model's faces is just recipe for failure.
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>>10663545
I want an "our favourite coords thread" now
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>>10663102
What was it expecting
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>>10661483
The girls they post to their account and their vendors are ita as hell.
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>>10663592
This is AATP not BABY. AATP has been on literal meth; BABY just always has those big expensive dresses that look dumb same as AP and that model has been shopped to hell for at least a year or two if not more.
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>>10661269
>>10661358
>>10663579
This, it's a rehash of a better print in uglier colorways with a stupid shoehorned mascot. I hate it
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Atelier boz is closing for dead
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>>10661570
>You guys must have never seen anything AATP lately
Or ever? AATP has always had mostly ugly designs with the cheapest construction of any major japanese brand.

>>10661479
It kind of reminds me of the kind of crazy shit Meta would put out. But the difference is that Meta's ugly stuff tends to look stunning irl bc you can see all the details and appreciate the quality of the construction and materials. You just know this AATP thing is some kind of hideous Spirit Halloween trashbag irl.
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Fuck me the neko kumya print is everything.
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>>10664275
The cuts are mad ugly though
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>>10664286
first thing i thought when i saw them. i hate how they look with a petti on, the models look almost pregnant and the one with the collar is just bad designing
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Tried asking in stupid questions but didn't get any bites.

How long does Baby take to respond to orders for out of stock items? Its been almost a week. Do they just not respond if they don't have stock?
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>>10664524
They take a week, and if they don't find anything, they'll tell you they were unsuccessful. If it's been longer than a week, directly email them through "Inquiries about Online Store".
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>>10664037
fuck me noooo
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>>10664275
Its especially cute in the green colourway!
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>>10664275
idk, the black neko reminds me of old-timey racist caricatures, I think because of the color scheme. other than that weird association, i like it.
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dont stack rocks when you're out hiking bros
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>>10664086
>Or ever? AATP has always had mostly ugly designs with the cheapest construction of any major japanese brand.

Nah. When AATP started through maybe the early 2010's they had amazing prints. It's been all downhill since about 2016 or so.
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>>10664634
AYRT- I got the skirt in green. I do agree with the anons that the bodices on the JSKs are weird. I do also want more skirts.
I wonder if a lot of people feel the same, the skirts are all sold out.
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Anyone else confused at the yan sale? I thought Lor said he was out of the picture
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>>10665020
You clearly know nothing about marketing
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>>10664750
100%, when they were good, they were great. still a couple prints of theirs from back then that i would love to own
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>>10665022
I dont want to give that creepy fuck my money, was I just retarded for believing bodyline took responsibility???
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>>10665020
lor doesn't know shit about business. yan sold the company, but that doesn't mean he's left it. there could be many stipulations in the contract about his present involvement that we have no idea about. it's stupid to trust lor on anything honestly. how would she know?
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>>10665036
nta but when she was explaining in her video over the new bodyline it seemed like she was in direct contact with them for some info before their reopening
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Mr Yan is based
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>>10664658
It looks literally nothing like a racist caricature. Leave twitter and get your eyes checked
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>>10665088
he is literally a pedophile, groomer and engaged in trafficking
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>>10665088
it's really weird that lolitas during his time gave this creepy grooming chinese man a pass
early 2000s was a weird time, because what he did was zany and memey the community welcomed that disgusting fuck
probably also had something to do with cheapskate poorfags looking the other way in order to save a buck
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>>10665292
He was mocked for how much of a pathetic nonce he was. No one sincerely liked him.
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>>10665292
People didn’t tho? There was mocking for years and years and talks of boycotts but really most ppl just moved on to taobao as that became easier to buy from. No one gave him a pass we just dealt with it
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>>10665292
"welcomed" in the same way the cosplay community "welcomed" pixyteri maybe, he was a spectacle to be watched that was openly laughed at and ridiculed constantly
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>>10665292
I wasnt in a comm or a gull at the time, the only thing I heard about BL was that it was cheap, an ita risk, and was banned at AP for once making a replica (which it had since stopped doing) according to what I read at the time.

No where did I hear about what he did to the girls and I am so fucking sad he did that and he is still in the loop. I wanted to get some pieces from there but after the info he is still employed and HIS BIRTHDAY is getting celebrated???
Just shamelessly announcing that????

No. Just fuck no, Bodyline will no longer be getting money from me.

Nah. Not even to mention the fact that there are likely plenty of unknown victims - a white model who became internationally known was groomed and sexually harassed by him, imagine what the girls employed by Bodyline face.
I can't imagine that Yan wouldn't rape those he wanted given his track record and how he leverages power to sexually abuse those he wants to sexually abuse.
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>>10665429
>HIS BIRTHDAY is getting celebrated???

The Mr. Yan birthday sale is just a marketing thing and an excuse for Bodyline to have a sale that recalls their "tradition" of doing so. They're not legitimately celebrating it all that much I'm guessing. Bodyline is useless though now that taobao is so easy to get things from.
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I love how obvious it is that covidlitas have infested this board. People are freaking out about Mr. Yan in 2021.
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>>10665498
ah yes because only covidlitas have an issue with sexual exploitation, abuse and withholding of documents. No one else could possibly think that is fucked.
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>>10665521
you're like 6 years late to the party, newfriend.
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>>10665521
Only covidlitas dont know that this is old news and has been talked about for a decade now.
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>>10665521
Yan has been out of the picture for at least 3 years now. No one ever condoned him, he was mocked constantly. Why are people caring about this now unless theyre fucking new?
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>>10665526
This. The birthday sale despite Yan being gone, body pillows, Venus' additional exposing of his creepiness with the model competition/wife applications back when she was big, and all the other Bodyline shit has been known in the community for a while now and most people buying bodyline are new, getting things secondhand, or just going to the taobao shops that literally make the bodyline branded rhs.

I thought I was new for only wearing the fashion for the better part of a decade but crazy how new these people must be when even Lor, one of the big gateways into the fashion for new lolitas/lolitas at heart, made a video within the last year or two about the bodyline problems and history and new management. Even before I ever wore lolita I knew about bodyline because lolita content creators like deerstalker and Lor referenced them and creepy Mr Yan a lot. There was even a lolita cards against humanity deck made that referenced certain community scandals and I'm pretty sure Yan was in there more than once, plus general bodyline memes.
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>>10665547
yeah I mean I heard he was creepy but I assumed it was because he thought he was hot shit, high functioning autistic 30 yo man at an anime convention level creepy not... you know
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is spreenow not working for anyone else?
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Is it just me or did closetchild stop sending e-mails?
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>>10666313
I still get them
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>>10666312
It keeps saying things are sold out when they’re not for me. What’s the issue for you?
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>>10666413
YES or dead pages that have product but it doesn't load correctly or is not allowing them to be processed
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>>10666319
Hm okay, I'll try unsubbing and subbing again. Thanks!
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>>10665526
To this day you can find people bragging about having the Mr. Yan body pillow on places like rufflechat.
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>>10666645
It's literally cause it's a meme and people mocked him for even releasing it, not because they think he is appealing or his behavior is okay lol
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>>10666413
is this what you mean?
>>10666438
this is what I am dealing with
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>>10666645
Anon do you know what mocking is? Or are you even too autistic for that? It was a huge joke form the second Yan asked if we wanted his bald baby looking self on a body pillow. It was the funniest thing he could have done because he thought he was on the level of Mana, but he wasn't even bootleg Mana. The fact he asked and then actually went through it was peak hilarity and lead to the best gag gift in the lolita community.
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does anybody have a general idea about what peace now's sizing is like? there's a skirt I want but it's an L, my waist is like 61-63 & I want it to fit without needing alterations
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>>10667424
isn't L more like a 69-70 waist?
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>>10667424
I agree with other anon, Peace Now M runs usually 64 or 66 cm, so an L is probably 68-70cm, L will be too big for you.
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>>10667614

do you even japanese alt fashion? Edgy japanese fashionistas don't give a shit about the significance of dead jesus, they just think it looks cool and edgy
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>>10667614
This isnt even that edgy, its basically just typical catholic thing
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>>10667682

anon's probably a catholic who faints at religious iconography in any other setting
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>>10664524
>>10664526
So I waited a week like other anon said and I still haven’t heard anything? Sent another message after one week too. Is there any reason why they wouldn’t reply then?

I’ve been checking my junk mail and I know my email address was correct because I got the confirmation after I sent the request. I’m not sure if I should just try again?
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>>10668067
They’ve actually never responded to my requests, and I’ve tried like three times for different items.
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>>10668078
I see. They’ve responded to me before but it was at least a couple years ago. Maybe I should get an SS to check at the stores in person.
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>>10668078
Do you order from them often? Not that it's an excuse for ignoring their customers, but I place orders from them monthly or so and they've always been prompt responding to me about inquiries.
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>>10668105
I’m >>10668067 and did they always have your items? I wonder if they aren’t replying because it’s not in stock.

I don’t order from them too often, maybe 3 times this year, all preorders. Maybe they can tell I’m more of an AP fan..
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Just curious, how long does it take you gulls to find and procure a dress in your wishlist? I think I take between 6 months and a year on average.
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>>10668489
It takes me a couple months! It’s easier because i’m not picky about wishlist items.like It’s rarely a specific piece i ever look for.
it’s a general thing such as ‘classic item with animals on it’ or ‘all black gothic op with lace’.
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>>10668489
I've been looking for my ultimate DD since I started the fashion. It's gone up on the secondhand market twice and I wasn't able to get either. I like old school though so my experience will probably be different than others
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I think more brands should do what Baby does with their Classical line, just rereleasing their most iconic older pieces with some degree of regularity. It seems like a no brainer to me
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>>10668453
No, not always. I don't email them about items very often since I usually grab what I want as soon as reservations open, but I've always heard back from them, even when the item isn't in stock (which it usually isn't but I figure it doesn't hurt to try)
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If this isn't the right place to ask this, please point me in the right direction. I don't see a shoes thread rn.

Anyone know how often VW restocks their rocking horse shoes? After wanting them for maybe 10 years, I want to get them as a birthday present to myself. My birthday is next month. I inquired about getting a pair custom made and they said they no longer do that, and to sign up for a restock notification. I just want an idea of how long I can expect to wait, or if I should give up and find a pair secondhand. Though I'd prefer to buy them new.
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>>10670138
You can always contact a London based lolita to do a custom order for you at world's end.
And I think every couple months there's a restock of black and white ballerina.
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>>10670138
For future reference please use the "Stupid Questions JFashion" thread.
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>>10670139
I don't know anyone in London so I'd feel kind of awkward asking a random person, unless there's a London based SS.

A couple month's wait isn't too bad. I'm interested in the black ballerinas. I guess I just have to be diligent checking my emails for the restock notification. I'll look into an SS if they don't restock by Christmas or so.
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I recieved a sock haul from morun x muuna and marble. so here’s my review in case anyone finds it useful.

Morun x muuna- lacey socks are decent. No complaints. Stretchy and not scratchy. Good price and good quality compared to my taobao ones. I wish the top lace ruffle part had more ribbon or some pizazz. But it’s good for casual or classical.

Marble- i think these socks are better quality and more comfy than my meta ones. They look gorgeous in real life. It’s old school style, so too bad there aren’t more ruffles, and they don’t have otk ones as far as i know. but i still like them a lot and will order more colors.
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It's almost mid September, Elizabeth MTOs where are you.
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>>10670543
Just got my shipping notif
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>>10671491
AYRT- Same. She's coming home.
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>>10671545
So fucking excited. I've dreamed of owning b/b for years. She's not velveteen, but I live in florida so I'm not even upset. Maybe one day.
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>>10670543
Mine just changed from processing to delivered BUT my credit card hasn't been charged yet - they've charged my card 3 times since April and after a few weeks the transaction gets removed from my account.

I've bought other things from baby and aatp before and my credit card + tenso address was never a problem, should I start panicking gulls?
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This is a weird question but does anyone know if the accessory brand Alice Garden is made by a former Putumayo designer? I realized I had an old Putumayo necklace that looks just like their designs (plastic cat, rhinestone eyes).
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I just got my Elizabeth! Probably going to get it altered to look good on my tall ass but holy shit it's so beautiful
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>>10673787
which colorway did you get?
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>>10673773
It's common for chinese brands to showcase random brand items next to their goods in product photos so probably not.
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They just restocked the white ones.
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>>10673925
Sorry, not sure what you mean? I'm talking about these accessories from Alice Garden. I had a necklace I bought from Putumayo's store in Shinjuku that looked just like these, but it has a collar with the Putumayo logo on it so it wasn't like it was made by an indie brand they were carrying, or anything.
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>>10673929
Sorry, i was confused as fuck because there is a wig store on taobao that is also called alice garden, please ignore me.
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>>10673929
Oh I want the rabbits.
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>>10643591
What the fuck is this logo
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>>10673990
They're available on chouchou ange! Not sure where else they sell.
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What's Wunderwelt exactly working on while their site is down?
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>>10674095
Thank you!
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>>10674110
We don't really know. It's just supposed to improve site performance but judging from some of what they've said I assume they're redesigning the layout to some extent, too.
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>>10674146
I hope it comes out well.
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Someone tell me these are bad and should not go with sugary carnival. lmao. how stupid they look is almost charming to me.
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>>10674110
I hope they fix their server problems. They're site is really slow and even worse during releases
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>>10675239
Why tf they cut off half it’s nose
Yeah don’t buy it it’s just gross looking
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>>10675285
I think it's funny looking but something about it is charming lmao. Probably in the usakumaya way.

I almost want to collect cursed plush bags.
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>>10675239
They're so stupid looking, I love it. I'd lose my shit if someone coorded SC with one. I'm biased though because i love collecting cursed plushies.
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>>10675239
Wait I actually like this
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Meta is rereleasing the Gardening Teddy print in new colorways! Though they did change the partial back shirring to full, which doesn't look as nice imo. There's some nice basic underskirts, long bloomers and socks in the release as well.
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>>10675524
I love the amount of options for this series, especially the 2 skirts in different lengths and bloomers! So many coording possibilities!
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>>10675524
still cute, but it doesn't have the pintucks and doesn't come in pink or brown. seems like a strange choice for a sweet print to not offer pink and for a bear print to not offer brown...
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>>10675711
I wish it came in pink or if they wanted to do new colors red. It would be like a more lolita version of those Pink House teddy bear dresses Misako modeled recently.

I'll probably still buy the sax.
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>>10670166
Reviews are useless without photos.
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>>10675830
stop fetish mining, no free feet pics for you
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>>10675524
Would love it in pink.
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Now that I got my Elizabeth package from Baby, I'm now eagerly awaiting my nekokumya print and accessory haul.
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>>10675877
Same
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Is BTSSB broken on Japanese Mercari for anyone else? It won't let me search it as a brand and the brand page gives me a page not found.
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>>10676961
yeah, it's been down for me too
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>>10651510
it's tragic how she somehow got worse at coording, makeup, and also ballooned up in weight
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I can't recommend CC to newbies anymore. They've been scalping their dresses hard, and then do stuff like rating this a B and selling it like it's hot shit for 7700 yen
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>>10677008
right? and they relisted all their BOZ stuff higher after they announced they were closing.
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>>10677008
Plus all of the botting means it's impossible to get anything good
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>>10677008
lmao they could've at least tried to straighten it out before photographing it....
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>>10677008
I've been saying this for years. CC puts so little effort into their listings, they barely give any measurements, you can hardly see the photos and listed damage is always vague.

Wunderwelt might be slow as shit and their prices are a bit higher across the board but they give much better information and photos about the items.
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>>10677008
Hve you heard about recent situation rosequartzroyalty? She bought an AP dress from them and it turned out to be severely altered, and this wasn't written anywhere on the site. She returned the dress and CC decided to re-list it!!!
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What's the kaneko shop drama on twitter?
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>>10677095
It also annoys me that most of the time they don't put sizes for IW. The size is on the care tag instead of the brand tag - I guess that's too advanced for them.
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>>10677102
hi there
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A random thought. A captcha is 5 letters, so it is possible to get BTSSB
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Anyone get the last antique beast order yet? They've been super slow to ship mine out.
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>>10677418
She said when she opened up that orders were going to take extra time due to the amount she got, just be patient.
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>>10677675
Well, I just paid extra to expedite the shipping lmao.
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>>10677418
I got mine at the beginning of the month! To be fair I had my cart ready and ordered soon as it hit the release hour.
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>>10677709
Same. That's what I figured as well.. I noticed some people look like they got their's, but I got my order in very quick. A little frustrated.
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Ugh. Wunderwelt renewal removed all favorites and other information in addition to order history. Really not happy about that because I had a lot of items saved that I was thinking about, and a bunch of older listings waiting for a sale period.

Glad most of my past orders should be archived but it's really inconvenient for everything to be wiped from being all in one place, including stock photos.
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>>10678092
And, the new site is endless scroll instead of paged, so eventually it will become impossible to continue loading through the backlog. Great.
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>>10678092
I messaged Wunderwelt on if there's a way to retrieve past wishlist but when I closed the window, the chat disappeared. Even though I had Wunderwelt open on another tab :/
Surely there's a way to bring back the favourites, I'm going to badger them until they answer
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>>10678092
In related news, why does every Japanese site have to be operated like it’s 1999? Jesus Christ.
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>>10678092
I'm really angry they deleted order history. I have items I bought that haven't shipped yet, so now I have to hope they still exist in the system somewhere. I tried putting the item number I bought into the new URL format, and it doesn't exist anymore. The site fucking sucks and it's fucking dumb they did this just to make it "faster."
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>>10678092
I also noticed a blatant error on address page. If you add a new address, it's fine, but if you try editing an old address, it will default your country back to Japan and if you try to change it back to the USA, the field to select your state will never show up again. It's completely broken. Not sure if it breaks for other countries, but that's a huge oversight. It lets you save the address too, so a lot of people are going to have screwed up addresses.
I only noticed because WW apparently deleted one of my addresses from the old site. Which is an error in itself.
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>>10678150
Same. I’m wondering now if I’ll even get an email with the tracking because my apartment is fucking retarded d doesn’t secure packages and they get stolen all the time ugh.
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>>10677096
I also got a dress that had been heavily altered. The waist bow was also just the headbow that had been removed and then hot glued onto a pin. I pretty much only buy if it’s priced stupid cheap.
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>>10677096
Nta but wtf. Which dress was it? I'm wondering if the pictures gave away the alterations at all?
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>>10678097
Just an update that WW confirmed there's no way of retrieving past wishlist and/or order history. Not sure if anyone expected better but I had hope :(
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>>10678329
I got the same reply and I'm still mad. I feel like a bunch of sales history is lost now and I wish I had saved more of it. I had no idea they were actually overhauling the entire site.
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I can't even login into my WW account
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THERE IS NO MY ACCOUNT THEY FUCKING DELETED IT
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>>10678349
>>10678348
Did you guys respond to the password reset email?
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>>10678351
I tried to reset it, but the site says there is no account with this email.
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>>10678352
No, they separately already sent you an email to activate your account. You don’t do it yourself.
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The BTSSB model looks like a freaky over filtered alien and I hate it. And in videos she's looks like she's being held at gunpoint. Why did they even pick her
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>>10678358
BABY hates her apparently. She is actually quite cute, I don't know why they shoop her to death.
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>>10678517
If they have her why use her? Are they under contract?
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>>10678358
Btssb in general has been going CRAZY with the shop lately. It’s honestly nightmare fuel. I guess it’s appeal to the Chinese tiny head gang trend?
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>>10678528
Picrel
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>>10678541
Oh this is weird. I'm used to the annoying orange faced model but I've never seen them shoot anyone else that poorly or like this before.
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>>10678541
Where was this posted btw? I haven't seen this set advertised anywhere on ig or Twitter
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How are you all feeling about the wunderwelt update?
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>>10678598
Read up. We hate it.

>deleted previous wishlist/order history
>glitchy address page
>endless page scrolling
>can't see sold out items
>weird chat pop-up
>"fixing" things that weren't broken
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>>10678636
Lmao...
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>>10678603
Sorry for being retarded nonnie
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>>10678598
If it wasn't for the small handful of stuff I want to get from them, I would stop using the site altogether. Pretty unhappy with the changes, but there's little way to convey that to them.
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>>10678598
I don't hate it. The speed is a huge improvement. The site is more useable now that pages don't take several seconds to load.
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>>10678603
I just used my blocker add-ons to remove the chat pop-up immediately since it was annoying.

>>10678667
Yeah, I was looking to see if there was anywhere that feedback was being posted to them but I don't see any replies to their SM yet.

Not that it would matter, what's done is done and I'm sure they'll ignore feedback after going through all this. It's the same as CC's shitty service or with scalpers, if you want an item and it's the only available in town, most people will still buy.
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>>10678667
I actually feel this way too

>>10678682
The site was never particularly slow for me, except at update times. The checkout process is more clicks now though, so that's pretty annoying honestly.
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>>10678297
https://www.closetchildonlineshop.com/phone/product/409902
It’s this one. The original was apparently listed in Ex condition.
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>>10678691
>The site was never particularly slow for me, except at update times.
Same. I think 10 seconds was the longest it's ever taken unless the site was actually down due to a huge release, and I would totally have preferred to keep that over the trashfire site design we've gotten now.

I also just noticed browsing through new items, it seems as if they're actually listing less information than they did previously. For example, if you're trying to figure out if something is black or navy, there's no longer a color tag on the listing to be able to tell.

Are they trying to be as shit as CC now?
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>>10678693
Must have had damn good alterations if they totally missed it. Did they at least refund in some way?





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