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The absolute state of old school lolita
so are taobao brands with old school inspired pieces that are mass so produced in sweatshops considered actual “old school” ?? asking for a friend
>>10536523No. Definitely not.
I don't want to point out individual posts but you can slap on every shit you find and you are fine as long as you tag it oldschool? I don't think oldschool works like this but every one is free to like whatever they want I guess.
>>10536536the absolute state of neo oldschoolers . just wanna look like aliexpress misa misa and call it a day
What's up with the shoop on >>10536356 her leg and >>10536364 her arm? Beyond bizarre.
>>10536750>>10536356she just looks like that, she has a disability on one side. Has been discussed before, ie the wheelchair photo
>>10536763Anon, zoom in. It's a perfectly straight line of digital artifacts and half her knee has been erased.
>>10536768her cof post is the same though. IIRC she has cerebral palsy. Looks like one of her legs is atrophied.
>>10536768>>10536770another cof post that's the same. I can't imagine anyone just shooping one leg anon.
>>10536750>>10536763>>10536768>>10536770No one cares about your disability.
>>10536770>>10536771Her legs look completely normal in these pictures. I mean, see what the other anon means about the first image but it just looks like jpeg compression to me. Seriously though, stop shitting up the thread. You went overboard defending yourself no one asked you to post your old CoF posts.
>>10536371has melty pisces lost weight?
>>10536812She looks good, younger even.
>>10536812Good for her
>>10536536This is true for all lolita tags. Lots of things get tagged under the wrong style to get more interactions or whatever. It's pretty normal. This anon sharing instagram posts doesn't seem to realize that happens and is just dumping tons of shit here.
ugly and or fat chicks wearing old school makes me so sad
>>10536882Imo they do better in old school than sweet. It will never not be jarring to see an ugly man-faced beast in sweet.
>>10536884I feel like fatties would look good in classic. The cuts would be flattering if they came in their sizes. Obviously not too fat but after a certain point no one looks good in anything.
>>10536882Only when it's old school?
>>10536536Taobaolita and ethot neo-oldschool coords are getting more popular. Like it or not this is what new oldschoolers wear now. It'd be nice to have a discussion about where the fashion's headed.
>>10536903do you think eventually people will start using neoschoollolita as a hashtag? should the two be differentiated on insta? (not that people wouldn't get it wrong anyway)
>>10536903the fashion can't be headed somewhere since it's based on the trends from a specific time period
It's always amusing to see how salty gulls are about neo old schoolers and spending more time reeeeing about them and "what old skewl rly is u guise!1!" than actually discuss OS. You all sound bitter as fuck kek
>>10537799The reality is people are kind of torn between what old school is between being "old school" the style/substyle and "old street snaps of what the og Japanese lolitas used to wear", and that difference in definition is kind of what leads to the constant infighting in old school threads.
>>10537893Anon you replied to and t b h that's a good take. I did not see it this way and thought they were just bitter but i'm wrong i guess.
>>10537899I guess I'm just giving everyone the benefit of the doubt and assuming it's this since we always get the "it isn't true oldschool unless it's a literal KERA photograph from before 1999" memes and stuff from one side critiquing how it's always kind of debated if something is oldschool when it's from a non-Asian girl/in a newer looking picture.
>>10537901imo people who think it needs to be almost an exact replica of the 90s/00s are very closed minded and don't understand the progression of fashion Like old trends are often brought back again, over and over. Like with the 80s inspired stuff h&m just put out. Obviously lolita is it's own niche with its own trend economy but i think that what people call "neo school" is still good and still counts as old school.Like you wouldn't compare like 2008-2012 sweet and current sweet and say they aren't the same thing anymore. Definitions evolve.I think this infighting about what oldschool is or isn't is irrelevant. It would be more beneficial and fun to talk about new coords and the way we coord old pieces.
honestly this is kind of impressive
>>10538501What's going on with her face??
>>10538501Impressive in a cosplay way I guess
>>10538501Can't wait till Western lolitas stop skinwalking and come up with new ideas instead.
>>10538501That's so cool, i'd love to be able to recreate the look which made me love lolita.
>>10538523Western Lolita has never been about unique ideas lmfao
>>10538531Ok skinwalker
>>10538518I kind of see it similar to how people collect movie memorabilia. It's cool to have that exact thing y'know? especially with such a "famous" image
>>10538523Same, it's getting ridiculous. Especially due to the fact it's the opposite of the spirit of oldschool.
>>10538505She always shoops her face to absurd levels
>>10538553Reminds me of the vintage dress community where someone matches the dress to the ad from a Sears catalog. It's pretty cool imo, kind of like having some history.
>>10538553yeah. impressive that it's the same pieces. Like a cosplay
>>10538554better than taobaolitas that call their mass produced shit old school just cus it's tartan or in black and white kek
>>10538553Idk, glorifying/borderline objectifying random japanese girls in streetsnaps so much you literally start to cosplay them is too next level 5 me.
>>10538590i don't think anyone cares about the girl, just her outfit. cosplay includes acting like the character, not just "steal this look" which is a staple of fashion magazines
>>10538501It is kind of impressive but to be honest the coord itself doesn't suit her at all
>>10538501How tall is she? I want to know the length of dress as it is looking sissy-level short on her
>>10538608Afaik she isn't particularly tall at all, that dress is just short
>>10538608That dress is infamously short. This is common knowledge. You gonna have a prude attack over Hospitality Doll next?
>>10538616desu both look pretty bad on taller people
>>10538608> old school dress >is too short How new are you?
>>10538501J copies another coord? Impressively shocking.
>>10538649shut up MD
Time for a dump, before this thread derails.
>>10538603Lol no you don't have to rp to cosplay. And she's skinwalking her including hairstyle and pose.>i don't think anyone cares about the girlExactly, which is why they see her like some kind of movie poster or merch instead of a normal person who just dressed up to hang out (or to get photographed).
>>10538608I’m only 5’2” and it ends at my coochie the dress is clearly intended to be worn with bloomers. While I think it’s weird to imitate a street snap piece by piece myself, this is the least valid complaint on this thread.
>>10536337What a weird self post
>>10538684Bc Im sure j "skinwalking" this coord totally destroyed the autonomy and personal life of the original lolita... Its 10+ year old photo, anon jfc. >treating this poor japanese woman like a piece of meat ??!?!11
>>10538722Way to be deliberately obtuse. You're twisting her words and you know it lol.
>>10538722My point is how weird some oldschoolers are about girls in streetsnaps and how they view them, but way to avoid a proper conversation.
>>10538570that's unfortunate because she still looks fug... she shoops her jaw smaller but her face is so inherently disproportionate that no meitu can save it. rip
does anyone own a maple wig in the natural brown colorway (pic related)? if so how true is the stock pic to real life? it looks really weirdly purple-y to me.
>>10538756recreating 1 snap isn't drama. if that girl was still active, they'd probably twin on IG like everybody does. i get what you mean about some people, but there is no evidence of that here. the wig is part of the coord, and the pose is just a pose. it's like saying kids doing fortnite dances are "skinwalking" as the characters. what a non-issue. i get if the caption was something creepy like, "i wonder what she was feeling when she wore this coord. i bet she chose kuro because she was suicidal over a break-up with her foreign lover", but it's nothing like that.
>>10538799^ this. People are just starting drama because they don't actually have anything negative to say about j. Just admit you're jealous of her wardrobe and move on.
>>10538799No you obviously don't get what I'm saying. I'm neither talking about drama nor the other fallacys you throw around. If I found out some random people in asia obsess over a 10 yo picture of me to the point they literally start cosplaying me including my hairstyle, I'd be creeped tf out.And no, trying out dances are not the same as 1:1 cosplaying normal, non-fictional people, zoomer-chan.
>>10538809Anon I literally have and had every piece of that coord except the shoes and bag but I'd never in my life do this because it's weird as fuck. And at least in my case I'm not talking about josine only, so no need to wk her this tragically.
>>10538818do you also feel this way about people wearing example coords that brands put out? or copying models?
>>10538501This furthers my belief that most oldschoolers just want to BE the girls in magazines.
>>10538824>>10538818Lmao why the fuck are you guys freaking out about this? Sweet lolitas twin and ""copy"" each other all the time. The worst they get called is unoriginal. Wearing the same outfit as someone /=/ skinwalking. It would only be skinwalking if she was trying to be like this chick in all aspects - personality, interests, MULTIPLE OUTFIT COPIES. Not one fucking outfit from a street snap that was IN A MAGAZINE. You guys don't even know what skinwalking means.Nayrt and not a zoomer. Also not an old schooler, but this thread is a trainwreck goddamn.
>>10538822>but what about [different thing]?Just like trying out fortnight dances isn't the same like skinwalking someone, wearing sets is also not the same as skinwalking someone. I never saw anyone completely copying example coords or models down to the pose, hair and every item being exactly the same. Or anyone bother search for sold out/passed items to completely cosplay models (even "get the look" stuff in magazines usually aren't the exact same items and gearedto bemore inspirational), which honestly only furthers my point how weird some oldschoolers mindset is about this. Wasn't it originally about experimenting and blatantly being themselves why they and we dressed like that in the first place?But at the same time I also remember this thread is heavily monitored by a certain discord which includes most of the people posted here, so there's that.
>>10538825Twinning takes two people and notone person and a 10yo picture of a girl you don't even know. Also kek what are you doing in this thread?
>>10538828god you're an idiot
Why do people wk josine so much. She sold me multiple dresses with undisclosed stains, reeked to tell and back (sweaty armpit). She is absolutely disgusting. Had to dry clean multiple times to remove the disgusting smell. Now I just imagine how bad she smells when I see her coords
>>10538789I think it's just their lighting since all of their stock photos have this purpley/pink shine. I have it in natural black and it also had this tone in the pics, but irl it's black with a slightly brown tone when the light really hits it
>>10538818>obsess over a 10 yo picture of meyou wish
>>10538845just sounds like you got a vendetta and are trying to start rumors. post proof or gtfo.the autism and salt about neo old schoolers itt is insane just wear the shit you like you crazed bitches who cares oh my god
>>10538789Do they ever even restock their wigs?
>>10538828You have issues. People wear lolita in their own ways, to enjoy it. If someone wants to copy a snap, literally who cares? You're projecting your own ideals of the fashion onto everyone else. On top of that, when old schoolers do try something new, they get needled down as "not really oldschool!" or "neo-lolita" or whatever. Most of the people on this board are just looking for any excuse to be bitter, including yourself.
>>10538845> She sold me multiple dresses with undisclosed stainsSounds like a you problem if you bought multiple dresses from her
>>10538875this just sounds stupid.
>>10538845Honestly my friend who bought an item also had the same issue. But I think her rabid wks discourage people from telling the truth desu.>>10538875She could have bought several at once.
>>10538870She only sells to her friends so I don't really want to out myself>>10538875Ok, it was one transaction, and why does it matter? Shouldn't people be aware before purchasing from her? She doesn't sell on LM so I can't really give public feedback
>>10538799>>10538809No one's trying to stir up drama about J, you idiots. It's a trend amongst old schoolers that people are allowed to criticize.
>>10538888Not much of a friend if you’re trying to throw salt on her for no reason. Sounds fake.
>>10538890It's not for no reason?Like I said, people deserve to know that she has done shitty stuff like that with her sales when there is no place to give her feedback publiclyyet all her wks are coming out of the woodworks, I swear she is a mod here or something
>>10538845I have a friend who bought a dress from her and it came with really bad BO too
>>10538847thank you!
>>10538832I see I hit a wound point, or what is that namecalling for?>>10538855Stop projecting and read the full sentence.>>10538873>You have issuesWhy? Because I think cosplaying actual people down to everything is weird? The only one projecting is you anon, I was merely stating my opinion. Instead of the endless namecalling, name at least one proper argument against my or any of the points above.Also>People wear lolita in their own ways, >If someone wants to copy a snapLike dude look at your own statements.
>>10538873>On top of that, when old schoolers do try something new, they get needled down as "not really oldschool!" or "neo-lolita" or whatever.Ah yes, don't try out anything new because others may not like it. Only dress for the opinion of others and copy others. Truly the essence of old school.>>10538845All her friends lurk here, of course they are going to shit up the thread with brainlessly whiteknighting everything she does.
i don’t even like her that much but i don’t know why her collecting pieces and recreating a look seen on a magazine is such a big deal???
>>10538925It's not about HER specifically but about old schoolers who do this as a whole.
>>10538927people look at magazines for inspiration all the time? How is this even a problem
>>10538925Maybe scroll up then.
>>10538935Is this bait to get people to shit on josine more? Just read the thread jesus.
>>10538941been reading the thread, everyone's just going crazy about shit that doesn't matter. Dress however you want it really isn't that big of a deal.
>>10538888You are embarrassing
>>10538943>i-it doesn't matter anyway, s-stop critizising!Why even post and pretending to try to understand.
>>10538870Kek no one even mentioned neo-oldschoolers. If you're triggered, you always have the option to leave and go back to your hugbox, neofag.
I miss seeing ferro's coords.
>>10538925she also recreates and copies looks of normal modern lolitas too. not sure if she's come up with a decent coord of her own in a while. just weird.
>>10538927> not about her specifically> entire thread full of wild rumors and personal attacksSure jan. Y'all are just wild. will not be surprised if this entire thread will get nuked soon
>>10537799>>10538870>>10538873Samefag >>10538925Probably because it's not simply taking inspiration and they aren't just "a girl in a magazine" but normal people. Dressing up as another person is pretty weird, including all the idolization of what's probably just teens and early adults hoping to get snapshotted into a magazine or meeting with their friends.
>>10538978t. seething whiteknight who probably spammed reports
>>10538978Lmao you do realize people only started talking about her after people like you started spamming your stupid ass "stop attacking J!!!" comments? You played yourself.
>>10538981you’re thinking way too deep about this, it’s just recreating the overall outfit. you have pieces that are like it, you can style it just like how they were featured in old magazines. criticize all you want but in reality it isn’t that weird or creepy as you think it is.
>>10538666Who?>Nice trips btw.
>>10539002No, it's pretty weird and doesn't sit right. She didn't just have the pieces, she specifically searched for them to dress up like that person and pose like that person. If she just had like 3 same things it would be lame but at least you could still say it's inspired but she copied everything, not even just the outfit. Her "recreating" is just another way to say cosplaying. And I don't get the purpose other than "I completely cosplayed this normal person because I idolize them as some kind of old school stars because they happen to be in a picture of an old magazine". I think you're already too immensed in the "wow I want to be just like this old magazine picture!!" thinking, you lost the connection to the reality of those girls just being like any other person here but born a bit earlier in a different country. Or maybe you just don't want to think about or reflect on that a bit deeper because in reality that isn't as normal as you think it is.
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>>10538968me too anon
>>10539002I dare you and all the other wks itt to pick pictures of other oldschoolers on instagram that you don't know, fully (((recreate))) them down to the posing and styling and then post it to your social media.
>>10538968I don't, lol.
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>>10539023I agree
>>10539040Multiple anons wrote those comments, dumbass.
>>10539040Two of those are mine. Learn to cope with different opinions and 4chan in general, deflecting samefag-chan.
Oh yes, drama and old schoolers go together as well as tea and cake
>>10539040>everyone who disagrees with me is the same personI'm still waiting on those arguments. Otherwise seconding >>10539027
>>10538501I think it's cute
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>>10538912>Ah yes, don't try out anything new because others may not like it. Why does everyone on this website have such garbage reading comprehension? >>10538908People like to wear lolita in their own ways. If it happens to be copying a snap, who cares? If I saw someone copying an old outfit I wore a decade ago, I'd be really flattered. I'm sure the person she's copying would be too. Your only argument is that "I think this is weird" which is subjective. I disagree that it's weird, and I think you're over-reacting. Also, stop crying when someone insults you. This is 4chan.
>>10539006An older lolita who constantly harasses younger lolitas
>>10539155Josine is in her 30s
>>10539053This isn't drama, it's a spergfest
>>10539161>older lolitaChecks out.
>>10539116>People like to wear lolita in their own ways. If it happens to be copying a snap, who cares?>wear lolita in their own ways>by copying someone else head to toeRepeating yourself won't make it any less contradictory.>If I saw someone copying an old outfit I wore a decade ago, I'd be really flattered. Why would you be flattered by some rando cosplaying as you and posing as you?>I'm sure the person she's copying would be tooI doubt it, they shit-talked gaijins and called even foreign brand models ugly in the early 00s, they'd probably cringe.>Your only argument is that "I think this is weird" Besides refuting points that are made and then getting no real reply to that, my argument is that it's weird because they glorify completely normal people they don't even know and treat a picture of them taken on a street like some kind of movie star/character poster, to the point they are cosplaying as them or defend and cheer on the cosplay. You know this would end in an awkward shitfest if she pulled it on a western lolita.>Also, stop crying when someone insults you. This is 4chanAnd 4chan is also a place for discussion. No one is crying but the one lashing out as a way to avoid addressing what is said.
Oh my god who the fuck cares if Josine or whoever else decides to copy snaps if it's fun then do it i guess there's weirder shit than that The good old "if i make a momoko coord is it considered cosplay" dilemma i guess. stop being autistic about it and try to have fun yourself for once in your life instead of sperging about decades old ruffly clothes on a basket weaving vietnamese image board
>>10539294nooo anon it's different because momoko is a character played by a celebrity not just a "completely normal person with a normal life" therefore you can't make that argument!! it's still super weird to them i guess.
ngl i don't even care about j but her wks that instantly pop up and defend her honor whenever someone dares to mutter a negative word about her are hilarious. please bring her up more often gulls
>>10539441lol it is different tho
>>10539546Yeah? Do you think momoko is real anon? Do you?
>>10539552are you literally retarded she's a fictional character not a real person
>>10539554>mfw oldschoolers can't even tell that apart anymore
>>10539541Yes, bring her up more so the thread gets deleted. Great idea, retard.
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>>10539565>noooo stop talking about her or i'll call the jannies sniff sniff!!hilarious
>>10539574ok keep telling yourself that spergchan
>>10538666Maried dauphine? That's the only MD I know.
>>10539624Kek I, too, use more than one device
>>10539670What is this
>>10539224How is copying someone's outfit glorifying them? You're reaching.
>>10538501 all i have to say is that it would look nicer with otks and slightly shorter bloomers so the dress doesn't appear quite so short
>>10539624Bitch you did exactly the same thing
>>10539541why doesn't this bitch have a thread on the farms yet? seems milky.
>>10539732You're just acting dense on purpose at this point. It's explained in the very same post how.
>>10539855the magazine glorified them by including their coord in the publication
>>10539928The magazine didn't cosplay as them
Holy shit is this what qualifies for drama nowadays?
>>10539940Well, DDZ has her own drama with wearing nazi uniforms. Neorococomemes is sharing all receipts.
>>10539940>posts a cowKek. But this looks like shit and isn't even old school.
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>>10539015Cosplaying a character is about the character, it would be weird for someone to cosplay you. But this isn’t cosplay because it isn’t about the girl, it’s about her clothes, if we want to reach a bit, it may be about old street snaps. No one is obsessing about the girl in the picture, they are only interested on their clothes and obsessing about clothes is typical lolita behavior.
>>10540010this was already pointed out to them, keep up. >>10538603
>>10539829Because someone being white knighted doesn’t warrant a thread newfag
