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>>10503529Ap USA got a shitty anniversary compared Shibuya
>>10503555trips of truth
I like this new kinda retro font
>>10503555AP USA gets a shitty everything
>>10503557Do AP bag straps usually look like that?
>>10503583They probably will also have a long strap which is a pleater strap inside a chain. They often make two straps for small purses.
>>10503555>1 year anniversary: advance release of 2 new prints in exclusive colorways, multiple rereleases, some in exclusive colorways, a new perfume, etc>AP USA 10th year anniversary: here's 50 milky bears and that's it, good day to you
>>10503624I'm kind of holding out because a decade seems worthy of more celebration. But I know I shouldn't.
I hate the AP perfume. Just looking at it gives me hives. I wish in 2020 we'd move beyond spraying cancer everywhere.
>>10503629Such edge, anon
>>10503629I also hate perfume anon. I have allergies so anyone wearing scent is just a mobile headache machine for me.
>>10503627I was holding out too anon. Japan really hates us Burglitas
>>10503624Don't forget the coupon! I would have nutted if we got at least a tea cup or a mug
>>10503624I wonder if the milky bears were actually supposed to be gifts given to 10th anniversary tea party attendees but because of covid AP went "fuck it" and just sold them...
>>10503682Lmao they would never give something so expensive as gifts. I know the Japan tea parties do but they’d never do that in the US
>>10503624i atleast would have thought some kind of novelty candle or handkerchief or something.
>>10503682Maybe if it was a pin, but a whole ass bag? Nope
>>10503684>>10503703They've given bags at Japanese tea parties/anniversaries, and this was going to be AP SF's 10th anniversary. 50 bears matches 50 max attendees at a usual party, don't think it's that far-fetched to imagine maybe AP wanted to actually care about the SF store for once?>t b h i think it was a manufacturing delay - like with the SF exclusive halloween cats
>>10503735>don't think it's that far-fetched to imagine maybe AP wanted to actually care about the SF store for once?What fantasy world are you living in
>>10503735I bet you they would have given those 50 guess the privilege and honor of paying out the ass for them
>>10503741Not really out of the ass, but yeah, those were accessible for purchase. From what I remember they were giving the bear up as best dressed prize. For instance, Paris tea party got another grey bear.
>>10503627Last year they did the "exclusive color" of Holy Rosary even though it really wasn't, so there will probably be some kind of dress release but likely something that's already been released in Japan. I'm kinda hoping for Goodnight Sisters but I doubt it
>>10503880I think it’s just the pink noble collection, according to the webpage. Or are they in the habit of adding stuff last minute?
>>10503926They won’t add new stuff last minute, but there are often things in store that aren’t online. For the grand opening of the store they had several reprints that weren’t on the launch page, including a handful of toy fantasy JSKs and A few holy lanterns that weren’t listed and a few others I didn’t recognize.
>>10503529It will probably smell very sweet and flowery. Sadly I don't like that smell, so I just waist for someone seeling the empty bottle :D
>>10503926I’m...talking about SF
>>10504082AP USA’s 10th anniversary promotions
>>10503735AP SF gives small pins or pocket mirrors to tea party attendees. They also had raffles where they gave away leftover dresses and bags but the gifts for attendees are nowhere as big as in Shanghai or Japan
>>10504144>Spend $300 to get a plateLike, not a whole set? But a fucking plate? Bruh
>>10504172I’d do it for a teacup and saucer set but I don’t care about a fucking plate
>>10504144>"announcement #1"They're just... saving the best for last, right?
>>10504174Right? Jesus AP usa got shafted
>>10504191Announcement 2these are all on their website already... next "announcements" will be more Milky Bears, a pair of socks, and $2000 dresses that no Amerifat or Ameripoor will buy lol
>>10504228For usa? Not seeing it. That ring is cute tho
AP Paris somehow had a Bunny Toy ring in pink that hadn't been bought. Now it has.
>>10504228It’s not even the full pink collection.
Toys Museum this weekend.
>>10504265Holy shit it’s ugly in black.
>>10504265more ugly imai kira prints, yawn
>>10504265Can’t decide on the OP or jsk. I like the idea of the jsk but I don’t like how it looks with the blouses pictured so far. I wonder if the collar is detachable?
>>10504228Ouuppp! You called it anon, a $2000 dress that no one will buy.
>>10504287Nayrt but they obviously already saw it
>>10504265The fuck is that blouse
>>10504275JSK has partial shirring, and theres buttons on the collar. Not sure about OP. Really hoping it's detachable. How else would you put it on??
Astrology OP turned out to be really casual and nothing like these round collar dresses.
>>10504297It obviously unbuttons you fucking moron
>>10504301no shit, even if it unbuttons in the back it's possible it's sewn in on the front. the question was whether the entire collar comes off or not.
>>10504307>How else would you put it on??Literally just responding to the question
>>10504298Looks like we’re in for a bland winter collection. Fingers crossed for S/S 2021 I guess :(
>>10504287Honestly if it was one of the good couture dresses, I would have bought it.
>>10504332Same. I would have bought the Space Lollipop Fantasy dress in an instant, but of course they give us this ugly dress.
>>10504297I'm sorry but the Jsk looks like the op without sleeves. So sad.
>>10504377forgot the photo
>>10504298look at all that uninspired shit
>>10504287ngl, I've seen one of those next to (I think) Hinana Queena and...AP one look like a fucking cheap costume
Do you all think Toys Museum will be popular? I'm in love with the print but I'm not sure if I'll even be able to get it.
>>10504287>>10504332At least it's Antoinette Princess, it was super popular when it was released (and is apparently still semi popular, given AP still re-releases it every now and again).(It's not even my thing. I asked my SS for Antoinette Deco and she wrote back to clarify, because according to her Antoinette Princess was hot rocks and so many girls wanted it but it was apparently impossible to get).
>>10504487Hard to say. Imai Kira prints always generate some popularity, but Dream Cat Go Round didn’t sell out either. I think some colors will sell out rather quick, but black will stay. And Paris will probably not sell out either.>>10504491It’s rather popular in China. You often see flocks of Antoinette Princess coords in their teaparty photos.
>>10504269i actually like the print itself in black, but the collar ruins the whole look for me. it seems kind of cheap and shiny.
>>10504504So instead of selling a dress that was popular in America, they went with a dress that was popular in China for USA's 10th anniversary?
>>10504384Ugh I hope that shiny collar is a bad photo efect
>>10504525Lmao what even is popular in the US? Even here, it's mostly Chinese buying from the store. US lolitas don't buy brand from stores
>>10504525I don’t think they really know what’s popular in the US, they probably just release whatever was popular in the past. They don’t care about the SF store and it‘s customer base.
A japanese lolita on Twitter posted this. Collar is indeed detachable!
>>10504553>>10504555i'm really glad it's removable. it somehow looks worse up close, it really makes me think of a pillowcase with a neckhole cut in it.
>>10504553that lavender colorway is gorgeous. it's a shame it'll be scalped to fuck
>>10504487I honestly don't think it will be popular or sell out.
>>10504553I hate this larme-kei trend AP has been on
>>10504532Well the customer base of AP USA is pretty clearly not Americans. They had to add other brands to the physical shop just to keep up with soaring SF rent.
>>10504265Why didn't they make it into a border print? Laziness?It's so ugly in allover print. Especially black.
>>10504591I'm almost sure they just heard out the people crying about crosses on Charlotte's Bear, so they did a print in simialr aestethic with similar mascotes, yet turned it into all-over print to make it more different. It's actually really cool if my assumption is right, but idk if this version will beat CB in popularity.
>>10504591Because every AP release is an all-over print now. Border prints are like 1 out of 20 releases.I hate it too. But as long as everything is polyester, I guess I wouldn't buy it anyways.
>>10504580Eh, I think it will sell out. Maybe not the black, but the I think the pink and sax will. I guess we’ll find out tomorrow.
Btw since I mentioned CB, how do you guys think is there accessory/jewlery release coming up? From what I can remember, CB was the only Imai Kira collab they did accessories for.
>>10504553This is so bad. It literally looks like a long ank rouge dress
>>10504605I don’t love black Toys Museum but I could wear my black Charlotte’s Bear jewelry with it, huh.
>>10504575Lololol. AP USA just announced it's getting the lavendar special set.
>>10504618It’ll be an absolute fucking bloodbath
>>10504618God I fucking want it in lavender so bad.
>>10504553The collar looks wrinkled to hell and it's hard to tell the difference between this and any other Milk dress
>>10504652Me too, anon
>>10504553Minus the bib it reminds me of leur getter, I wish it had more small details or buttons on the dress itself.
Good luck lmao
>>10504744I’m already crying
>>10504553Can AP stop plastering their name over releases? They did it with the waist on that sailor/school OP, it looked bad then and it looks bad now. It's like the mid 00s when normies wanted Abercrombie or Hollister written over their entire outfit
>>10504793Are you new? Every brand has been doing that since early lolita
Paris has started the Toys Museum reservation.
>>10504793Why would I buy brand if it didn't have the brand's name on it?I prefer when they work the brand name into the actual print in a subtle way instead of just stamping it over the waist tie or the collar, but it needs to be somewhere. Otherwise why buy AP Sailor Dress #22 over some normie sailor dress that looks exactly the same?
>>10504841Lavendar is available too
>>10504842>Why would I buy brand if it didn't have the brand's name on it?taste level zero.
>>10504793I actually love the way lolita brands do it, unlike normie brands where the logo is designed once and then copypasted all over everything in the same way, lolita brands seem to redesign their logo every time there's a new release, and then work it into the designs.Though I have to admit, the last few releases were kind meh. I really liked the AP logo for the chocolate stuff (Chocolate Rosette, Musee du Chocolat)
>>10503529omg its the pure essence of Angelic Pretty distilled into a perfume, I MUST have this
>>10504793gr8 b8 m8 here's the (you) that you crave so desperately
Missed my chance getting the lavender colorway in Paris. Time to die
anons when should i expect AP USA to drop the Toys Museum release? today is supposed to be Petit Heart?
>>10504744That game gave me ptsd and is so needlessly sad
How long do packages take from AP Paris to the US? Assuming it’s an in-stock item
>>10504967If it's in-stock, I'll say about a week from the shipment date. I had a reservation item get shipped out on 11/4, and it arrived 11/10.
>>10504966Huh? Am I misremembering things horribly or didn't it have a happy ending? Also Another Day was very fun.
>>10504848Nah. Think about it.Polyester dress number one. Cute design. Taobao lace. No brand name.$60.Polyester dress number two. Taobao lace. No brand name. $350.If you choose dress number two only because its "brand," you are the fool. JP brands get their fabric printed in china and use lace from chinese brands. Baby, Meta, and AP have all been "caught" using generic lace from taobao. So what sets them apart if not the brand name? If you can't tell something is from AP, what makes it better than taobao? Look at Little Witch. It got backlash for "looking like something from taobao." So what would make it worth the price tag if not the brand name? Its certainly not the dress quality. Its just materials from the same chinese factories that manufacture smaller brands' clothing. If you're going to pay for the name anyway, why not put it somewhere on the item? Be self aware and recognize the reason you pay for brand.
>>10505002Have you ever actually owned anything from AP? Or are you just real bad at spot the difference?
>>10505002How new are you? AP has been getting shit for releasing taobao looking shit for years now.
>>10505006Yes? I have about 10 AP dresses.>>10505007Not new at all. I just used Little Witch as a recent example, I know they've been getting shit for it. And still people keep spending hundreds of dollars on their dresses right? For what reason? Brand name.
>>10505011>10 AP dresses>Not new at allNot sure if you're a troll. Your wardrobe is small and it sounds like you're not experienced enough to understand that brands have a defined "look." Most of the time, you can tell something is AP at a glace, without even knowing the name of the release - it just "looks" like AP.While there's a small group of people that buy AP just because it's AP, most of us like the "look" or style of AP. You just sound like someone would would buy a Supreme brick for $1k because "omg it says Supreme!"
>>10504974I thought that was from Majora’s Mask
>>10505016>>10505023come on guys, gull said 10 AP dresses. you don't know she could have 100 taobao dresses and 10 homemade.
>>10505027That's 120 more than you
>>10505027>100 taobao dresses and 10 homemadeWould these even really count though?
>>10505027They could also be more into baby but as a babyfag I'm gonna ignore that option because I'd like to think we have more taste and intelligence than the "I own a ton of AP but also taobao and it's always the same quality except the names" people.Even as someone who hates AP's newer poly stuff, I've owned poly dresses of theirs and bought sweet printed taobao pieces once or twice before I knew better and the quality difference is obvious.
>>10505027why would you do this to yourself though, when you can get superior brand items
>>10505011Just because some brain dead newbies shat on lw's quality on lolita updates days before the jp release and weeks before people in the west received theirs, doesn't mean that it got "shit" for it by the community as a whole. If you weren't so painfully new you would've recognized that lw uses the sparkly dot chiffon which is definitely the nicest poly that ap has.Forming your opinion based on cgl shitposts makes you about as brain dead as them too.
>>10505027She could also have other sweet brands. I like AP but I own more Baby myself, and I find myself eying Meta's recent releases more and more
maybe not appropriate for this thread but, what is wrong with him? how do I fix his droopy wing? Or is this common, I’m a newfag and this is my first AP bear. I’m so mad and sad
>>10505113lol wait is that one of the brand new AP USA exclusives because that's sewn sideways
>>10505119Yeah it’s the SF exclusiveWhat do you mean it’s sewn sideways? The wing? (sorry, I am a dumb person)
>>10505054I have two cuts of Little Witch, and the sparkly dot chiffon is beautiful, but extremely scratchy and fragile. I'm not sure why you think someone having a different opinion of you means that they've never touched the thing you're talking about. Think clearly about this. I have an example. Picture this in your head. Angelic Pretty's heart shaped pleather bag with the logo on the front of it. OR a cheaper taobao bag made three years earlier, for 1/4 the price, with no brand name on it. Which one are you going to buy? Personally, I'd love to have the AP one. But is it because the quality of the AP pleather is magically better? No. It's because I want the branding.>>10505061This. You can recognize a brand's faults and still like them and buy from them you know.
Is it possible to attend the AP tea party from overseas? Tickets go up tonight
>>10505121>>10505119It looks more like the stitching is loose? Does the wing move a lot at the base?
>>10505136yeah it does, im thinking maybe it was damaged when they packed it in the shipping boxwell, i guess i can take it to someone to sew it in properly
welp, toys museum seems like a flop.
>>10505140Good, that shits ugly
>>10505145It's just meh. Everyone wants some 2010's sweet with Cotten and they're putting out this polyester trash.
Muuh dump incoming
>>10505218Coat looks really cute; none of these dresses excite me though.
End dumpReturn of the jewelry ribbon shoes?
>>10505218Glad to see my wallet is safe this season, maybe I'll get this coat if it comes up in the winter sales>>10505225This looks like bodyline lol, maybe it's prettier in the other colourways
>>10505234Jewelry ribbon shoes are already for sale
>>10505244Oop, my bad
>>10505220Ugh, this is even prettier in this cw than the other one and the high waist is killing me.
>>10505218Might need that bag, it’s so cute
>>10505218Seems like no new jewelry, which is unfortunate. Unless they're going to just surprise us with them. It's really a missed opportunity if they don't make poodle jewelry at the very least. The only thing that wasn't revealed previously to look forward to seems to be this Milky Bear bag; it's little eyes and fuzziness are so cute!
>>10505218this coat and bag are the only things I kinda sorta like, and even then, why is AP going so hard with milky bear when shyness bear. and lyrical bunny are way more cute and more established? Also why no love for past characters like milky-chan or vanilla-chan?would be cool if next big AP anniversary, they released a cute dress feat. past mascots like that, it seems a shame to just leave all of them in limbo when they're all very popular + people have been begging for newer stuff of them for years now
>>10505232This ugly JFC
>>10505302Maybe it's because the other mascots have more cotton dresses and AP doesn't do cotton anymore
>>10505232>>10505221These are so ill-fitting. I know she is a petite girl, but are these not styled properly or has AP started to make garments larger standardly?
>>10505113I had the same problem. Just sew in the top of the wing in one place and it will hold. Its fucking annoying but least its not wonky anymore
>>10505334Yes, standard size is larger. I've been sized out of modern AP, so I've stopped buying main pieces from them.
>>10505364Damn. Wonder why they are catering towards to fat, primarily Americans vs the Asian market.
>>10505372They're not. Oversized clothes are popular in the Asian market right now.
>>10505229>Melty Ribbon Chocolate ribbon trimIt could be a sign we're getting more chocolate things coming up, maybe even another round of MRC.
>>10505129>Picture this in your head. Angelic Pretty's heart shaped pleather bag with the logo on the front of it. OR a cheaper taobao bag made three years earlier, for 1/4 the price, with no brand name on it. Which one are you going to buy?The taobao one cause I like their sturdiness much more. I only make exceptions for ap if it's a more iconic design or made of enamel pu.
>>10505186Maybe they will make more of sweet prints made of cotton since melody toys Sold out
>>10505372They're not you fool,>>10505375Is right, which is why were seeing larger sizes with cuts meant for smaller girls. If AP was really catering to Americans, then cotton, low waist dresses would be everywhere.Just making the sizes larger doesn't mean that they're catering to fattys. Theres a lot more than needs to go on in order for that to happen
>>10505186is that actually what is wanted, though? /cgl/ posters are not AP's target demographic
>>10505421The trend toward lager sizing has been happening for years and years. The cutoff for bust used to be 86-88 for Baby for example, but many are starting at this size. The trend in the Asian market has been shifting for 5+ years?Just imo, the old more feminine silhouettes looked better vs the essentially bag waist look on the recent AP images in ITT. It’s strange to see lolita clothing trending towards the “oversized” style.
>>10504588The problem is that they put the store in the wrong place. When the store opened, all the AP brandwhores were in LA. AP even wanted to open up a store on Melrose, which probably would have done well because you'd get randos walking in in addition to actual lolitas. But because the people who were buying the rights to the store were in SF, they pushed them to put it there. AP USA is essentially a franchise store, which explains why AP doesn't give much of a shit. They're not making nearly as much money there. And before you bring up Paris, Europeans spend more than Americans, and the owner of AP wasn't shy about saying so.
>>10505573I’d kill for an AP store on Melrose.
>>10505460>is that actually what is wanted, though? /cgl/ posters are not AP's target demographicRight? It's so funny how all the bitchy fat poorfags on here think that they're the center of the AP universe when they probably sell upwards of 50% of their merch to China, where they prefer polyester due to the extreme heat in the major cities. Plus Chinese lolitas don't bitch about the price and instead relish the opportunity to purchase these polyester status symbols, hence the shift to AP logos plastered all over everything. So yeah, their not atering to Americans at all, because we're likely a sliver of their market and the way they treat the SF store makes that very clear. If we were really a big share, they would invest more in the store like they have in Shanghai and Chengdu
>>10505590Polyester is worse in the heat because it traps heat and sweat, shut up larper
>>10505592I'm speaking from tropical experience anon. Cotton "releasing sweat" only counts for shit if you're not already living in an area with 90% humidity dipshit. It's pretty basic principles of equilibrium. Polyester allows the breeze to at least flow and do you some good. Why tf do you think nearly all sports fabrics and hot weather gear is made from polyester ?
>>10505590Chinese lolitas probably have non weather related reasons to prefer polyester anon.
>>10505592Every cotton AP dress from the last 20 years has poly lining, so this is a moot point anon
>>10505590>>10505592AP has stated repeatedly that Japanese lolitas prefer polyester, so they switched over to mostly polyesterSure AP will throw China a bone, but Japanese lolitas are always going to be AP's number 1 customers that they cater to
>>10505464>>10505372Just to add.There's a census somewhere out there that says Japanese girls are getting bigger -- not fatter, but generally today's generation has access to better nutrition so they have slightly bigger bone structures, are taller and wider (still skinny, because if you live in Asian society the pressure to not be fat is on a whole other level). They're still generally smaller and shorter than western girls, just getting slightly bigger generation by generation, so it makes sense the clothes are getting slightly bigger to match the main population.Most of the brands just seem to make some dresses with shirring and adjustable shoulder straps as a nod towards the western market. We seem to be some sort of "oh by the way, this will fit you too" kind of market.
>>10505595Why do you expect AP polyester to be as breathable as a weave as sportswear is. You clearly haven't worn it.
>>10505634Cant convince retards that there’s a reason why people prefer poly I guess. What, do you think it’s all some conspiracy to save ap a few bucks? I live in a tropic as hell environment, and while I love the quality of the printed Burberry, the cotton poly lined combo is hot as hell and because humidity is crazy nothing breathes anyways so yes I do prefer having a poly dress that is lighter weight, and less suffocating. Tokyo, Singapore, and much of Southeast Asia is also crazy humid and hot so I assume they’d prefer it too. Plus with all the sweating it’s lower maintenance and much easier to clean. If the majority of people really preferred cotton guess what? They’d make them cotton and cash in. But it’s just not the case.
>>10505631To be fair they definitely are getting fatter and even have a trend of specialty plus size stores popping up. Now that Western style foods are super common obesity and weight problems are really on the rise. The government actually requires yearly measurements and weigh ins lol so they track in nearly real time.
>>10505629I think one reason japanese lolitas prefer poly over cotton because hang drying a cotton dress here is a nightmare. you can wash and dry a poly dress pretty easy, but cotton takes forever, and the ironing is annoying as well.
>>10505649Idk about this being a Japan thing just because hang-drying is the standard in most of the world outside the USA? But yeah hang-drying anything heavyweight is hell if you're in Japan. When it's super humid out it literally doesn't dry unless you hang it inside and then you've got giant dresses dripping everywhere. Another theory I've had is about space conservation. Even the largest apartments in Tokyo and East Asia tend to be super small by western standards, and not really great for storing the thicker cotton dresses with more rigid built in pettis.
>>10505653I don't think anon thinks it's a Japan only thing, just that brands only are aware of Japanese washing habits. Also I don't think that the size makes much difference.
>>10505654The size difference can be pretty significant. I separate my wardrobe because I use a de-humidifier in my closet and my 7 cotton dresses take more space than my 18 polyester pieces. I think this might have more to do with the volume of the built-in petti though since recent releases don't usually have anything.
>>10505002old school style lolita's don't exist.lolita isn't just printed poly dresses retard.
>>10505658I'm dumb, can you eli5 why one would use a dehumidifier in their closet?
>>10505663nayrt but probably to keep away musty smell
>>10505663NTA but if you live in a place with humidity, it prevents mold and mildew from growing in your closet. It grows more easily in dark places so closets can be dangerous in humid environments, but if the air is sweaty enough it can grow anywhere. Using a dehumidifier helps keep mold and mildew at bay.Can you explain what eli5 means? Or was that a typo?
>>10505665nayrt but eli5 means 'explain like I'm 5'I also have a dehumidifier to keep my clothes dry. It's horribly humid where I live year round. In the winter you can see the condensation on the walls when it's cold and the mildew is terrible everywhere. Cotton is beautiful but there's a lot of reasons people in this kind of climate prefer poly.
>>10505647>>10505649>>10505653The more adult look of polyester, space conservation, and ease of care are all reasons why they switch to mainly poly because the Japanese customer clientele are aging up with lots of dresses and not a lot of storage space, they want something easier to wear, easier to take care of, easier to store. They've said this much themselves. The 20 people on this board spamming "AP looks like taobao I want cotton 2010 sweet", AP does not give a shit about them, they were never trying to get those people's money in the first place
>>10505578I miss the baby store in NYC
>>10505648Actually it wouldn't be the first time someone started a plus-size line -- at the very least there was plumprino, and h.Naoto had a Juliet line off the top of my head, and both shut down eventually. It seems to be something they pick up to see if they can make money with, and then drop it when there's not enough fat girls buying.Most of the population still isn't as wide as western fatties get, their frames are still pretty smallish so even when they're fat they're mostly American M-size rather than 4XL size.
I know this belongs in the price check thread, but I don’t get proper answers there.What’s the going rate for the Sugar Dream Dome jsk in any color? Any chances/hints for a rerelease? It seems sought after and expensive, but I never see anyone talking about it or asking for a rerelease.
>>10505708no less than £600
>>10505708It needs to be popular with their main markets for a re-release, ie- Japanese and/or Chinese lolitas. So western prices barely have any effect on whether there'll be a re-release or not.
>>10505711I‘ve been looking for it on xianyu as well though and aside from the special sets there are only WTBs for it (for the JSK and OP), which is why I think a rerelease is long overdue. It’s sought after in every single market.
>>10505667>there's a lot of reasons people in this kind of climate prefer poly.My climate isn't as hot, but it is humid. I sweat immediately in poly blouses so I don't get it. Poly also tends to hold onto any smells. I can't even wear blouses with poly sleeves. I can't even imagine wearing an OP in humid and hot weather.
>>10505736Really? I find poly is so much easier to clean and I spend most of my time in the armpit of florida
>>10505736samefag, but maybe you have sensitive skin or something? I don't find poly to be hot, but I do sweat and overheat like crazy with even the slightest amounts of wool and it turns out I'm allergic.
>>10503555Since AP USA anniversary was lackluster. I'm anticipating on the Paris Tea Party event 2021. I hope the event is online again (I missed this year's).
>>10505745>>10505747I don't believe I have sensitive skin. I've never had any reactions wearing it, just overheating when I do. I don't have any allergies so it seems unlikely. It seems like I don't get enough air permeability to keep cool. I've tried different materials people suggest, but always to the same results.I get that it's "easier" to clean, but then I need a filter on my washing machine that needs cleaning.
>>10505736Where I am it's hot (38C+ much of the year) and humid/rainy so it doesn't matter whether it's poly or cotton, you sweat like a pig and soak through whatever you're wearing. And in that situation it matters more that you can clean it easily, and that it will hold it's shape and look good regardless of what the weather is. I don't have strong b.o. so I've never had an issue with poly holding onto odors. If anything the opposite, because it's much easier to clean.
>>10505747Lmao I'm the opposite. I love light wool when it's hot. It keeps me cool because I don't feel the sweat, and doesn't smell. With poly, I feel sweat moving, and it's anxiety inducing. I become super sensitive to smell, and think I reek in it.With cotton you can use sweat protectors and white shirts underneath to prevent the blouse from getting sweaty, but poly is sheer and you'll see any undergarments you wear underneath.
>>10505798What the fuck anon
>>10503529Cool so it’ll smell like absolutely nothing after 20 minutes.
>>10505767I see. I don't think I could tolerate such a climate, I hate feeling sticky. Cotton allows it to evaporate before it gets moist where I live. I don't have strong bo either, it's more the organisms living in the plastisphere. You can clean it, but you can't always get rid of those microorganisms.
>>10505805Wool is naturally a moisture wick and antibacterial material. Look it up. Poly attracts bacteria that love sweat. Cotton is ideal for me because it goes with lolita and I don't end up feeling gross in it.
>>10505736>>10505760nayrt. I have cotton and poly from both taobao and brand.In particular some poly blouses have looser weaves so the air passes through them more easily. That would make the difference between "breathable" poly and living in a plastic bag. Just wanted to mention that this could be the difference between someone finding poly to be impossible or not because it'd depend on exactly which poly items they own. For humid, hot weather (I live in a subtopical country), rather than the polyester items being easy to clean, every polyester AP dress I've owned is far lighter than their previous cotton dresses. I can't stand being hot and sticky all day either (I only lolita if there's aircon available), but if you're gonna be hot and sticky, at least it helps if you don't also feel like you're carrying a dress that weighs a tonne vs a lighter dress.
Compared my 2015 Wrapping Heart jsk with the mto kc, and there is clearly differences in color and the new print looks a bit bigger and blurry. Nothing major and looks the same enough though
Wtf. My milky bear didn't have the wonky wing, but his star is upside down.
>>10506484replica-tier mascot btw
>>10506484that's what you get for spending a hundred dollars on a dollar store plush toy from angelic shitty
>>10506484Is that star hot glued on? You can probably heat it with a blow dryer and turn the star right-side up
>>10505798You're either full of shit or an idiot. Just look at sports brands, why they use Poly over cotton lol
>>10506484Also it's a satanic bear now
>>10506484I'm sorry anon. I would be pretty angry. I guess AP doesn't do quality checking anymore
>>10506545Not for their red headed stepchild
>>10506484Mine is late in the mail OTL
>>10506548Every AP customer is their red headed stepchild these days, except the Japanese market/stores. Even China doesn't get much compared to Japan.
>>10506635All the releases this year have been so boring other than Ice Cream Parlor and Neon Star Diner. Little Witch was cute I guess, but looks so taobao-y and you can only really wear it for like 1 month out of the year.
https://kei.circlly.com/auctions/plaid-red-lolita-dress-never-worn-and-matching-headband-f4730181-1d3c-4173-8bdf-c53164d5b12aDid British Bear OP... have sizing? There’s no way this is legit, right?
>>10506654It's a replica dipshit
>>10506655That’s what I was trying to figure out! Thank you for your help! :)
>>10506657It's on kei not LM, the title never says the name "British Bear", you can't visibly see the "AP" purple tag on the back of the dress next to the zipper nor does the seller have a picture of it, and like you pointed out the seller lists size as S/M. All of these are giant red flags that basically = it is fake
>>10506526There's different types of polyester as there's different types of cotton. AP does not use sportswear polyester. Try again
>>10506484Also “mint” is a stretch imo. Mine is definitely like a sax.
>>10506526To be fair many high end sports brands use moisture wicking wool too.
>>10506839i got mine last week and mine is clearly mint lol
>>10506484wtf is up with these bears?
>>10506858ayrt has a point tho, my bear is mint but very much a seafoamy-teal shade. also my bear has a slightly droopy wing :/
>>10506866damn, mint accounts for many types of "pale blue green" so i think we just have different idea for "mint". Ap quality check is nonexistent, sorry about your wing. i was disappointed with the quality for sure and my bear's snout is wonky. the strap is also a joke...
>>10506858How far away are you from AP USA? Mine is late in the mail OTL
>>10506874I'm also in California, they shipped it via priority 2/3-day. what does ur tracking say?
>>10506878It left the distribution center on the 20th and no update since then Then again, I am in VA
>>10506484My blue Milky Bear has an upside down star. I am used to it.
>>10506484Is it even centered? Sorry anon, AP really didn't give a shit about the limited bears they gave to SF
I will say, I own the original release milky bear and at least one from every release following and the quality has gone downhill. The original milky bear is larger, fluffier and all around sturdier than every re-release that followed, let alone the store exclusives.
>>10506881mail seems to be slow this week likely due to thanksgiving. my UPS package usually gets here by now (5 days) but still hasnt updated either. im sure u'll get urs soon anon!
>>10507064I hope so too, I was planning on burning mine to appease the gods into making a Melty Berry Princess MTO
>>10505016I’ve been wearing AP and Baby for 6 years but I have less than 10 dresses. I just don’t go on crazy shopaholic spending sprees and know how to manage my money. Sorry you live paycheck to paycheck and likely $3k in credit card debt.
>>10507091God yes please a Melty Berry Princess MTO. Any berry print MTO desu
>>10507106ah, salty poorfag. got it.
>>10507091Let the sacrifice begin
>>10507106You sound poor
>>10507106Poorfag and/or conlita confirmed.
>>10507106Unless you’re super minimalist and actively closet clean to keep that number, that’s very few dresses.Even when I had my big wardrobe changes, like selling all my sweets themed dresses, I never got below 20. You can just admit lolita is not a priority in your finances and you’re not that serious about it, that’s okay.
>>10507108Not really. I don’t have many dream dresses. >>10507111Sure jan>>10507112I don’t go to cons and I’m not >>10507124I prefer to be minimalist when it comes to my wardrobe. I love the fashion but again i dont have many dream dresses. Doesn’t make sense to spend money on items I don’t like. Do i have to buy everything to not be considered poor or new? Lmao
>>10507106>I just don’t go on crazy shopaholic spending sprees and know how to manage my money>you sound poor>coming from a retard who has to sell their body to buy their wardrobe because they can’t manage money
>>10507125Sounds like you’re just not passionate about this fashion then, if there are so few dresses you like enough to buy them.
>>10507128I mean do I have to be? I enjoy certain prints and cuts/colorways enough that I’m happy with what I have. Having money saved means if a new print comes out and i like it, i can spend it without pinching pennies. But i guess I’m not passionate enough?
>>10507106>everyone who has more than 10 dresses is in debt and lives paycheck to paycheckcope harder poorfag
>>10507133You don’t have to, but then don’t try to act like you actually know a thing about brands and stop trying to portray people with bigger wardrobes than yours as shopaholics. If you haven’t owned much brand and don’t care about most dresses, your opinion on AP like here >>10505002 is irrelevant.
>>10507127Why are you assuming they have to sell their body?
>>10507135>been interested in the fashion since 2000s>done decades of research >owns less than 10 dresses >due to having few dream dresses >been living in tokyo since 2015>knows how to manage money without eating ramen for a month>”dont try to act like you actually know a thing about brands!!1!”Ok retard cope harder
>>10507134It’s ironic you say this considering how many anons ask how they get over their spending habits every time theres a new release. There’s several people in my old comm in the US who are actually $3k+ in debt, I wasn’t making that shit up. They buy full sets and wear them with the tags still on. They also make minimum wage and continue to spend a shit ton on their wardrobes. Then cry that they can’t afford healthcare and rent so they make an onlyfans to sell their nudes for more burando and shit rather than taking care of their actual needs. If only people knew how to manage their money. But if they did, they would be called poorfags :^)
>>10507159larping won't make you less poor
>>10507162>you must be larping since you live in japan!1!Jesus you’re pathetic
>>10507160A lot of lolitas have shopping problems but the majority who own a lot do so sustainably over time buying at a reasonable pace.Your while post sounds like a load of bullshit though
>>10507160Someone who wasn't poor would be able to manage their money and also own more than 10 dresses lmao
>>10507163Claiming to live in Japan is a frequent weeb tactic to sound more knowledgeable when called out on their bullshit opinions, but in reality they and you know next to nothing and your opinion on brand is irrelevant if you don't know them/don't own very many pieces.
>>10507160I mean, just because you know a few people with retarded spending habits and bad jobs doesn't mean everybody's like that. It applies to many hobbies, not just lolita. If you check the stupid questions threads there are plenty of lolitas with large wardrobes who work high paying jobs
>>10507164Multiple anons claim to buy 3-5 main pieces a month. How is that reasonable?>>10507165so if i don't buy every print, I’m poor? Why would i buy ugly prints that I don’t like?>>10507167So being a member of a comm in Tokyo means I’m a larper huh? >>10507168I saw those replies. Thank you for bringing up a good point rather than calling me poor for not wanting to overspend/buy dresses I don’t want.
>>105071703-5 pieces a month isn't unreasonable if you can afford it. Implying buying a lot makes someone a shopping addict or can't be reasonable makes it sound like your income is low or you're being defensive because you're insecure about your income.
>>10507171A few cgl posts don't make the whole community poor. Cgl is not a good way to measure the behavior of the community at large, and you specifically mentioned girls you knew in your comm, not someone on anon whining about their spending issues.
>>10507043I also own multiple bears from different releases and I can safely say the ones with solid color ribbons are the nicest quality. They probably changed manufacturers or since they are ordering in higher quantities it is affecting the quality.That is just for the bigger size though, the smaller ones are about the same overall.
>>10507159Sure, Jan. Totally not back-pedalling.
>>10507170You don’t get it, do you?You not buying many main pieces means your experience with brand is very small and your opinion is only based on things you did not experience yourself. And it doesn’t matter if it’s because you’re so good with money or just poor.Second, try to fathom for a second that many lolitas can easily afford new dresses a few times a year and still live very comfortably. Just imagine: people who don’t do well usually complain, while those who don’t keep their finances private. I wouldn’t want my comm to know how much my husband and I earn either.Also, US poorfaggory is not the standard for the whole western community.
>>10507170if you live in tokyo you'd have more than 10 dresses.
>>10507170You living in Tokyo doesn’t make you an expert for brands. Being a regular customer is what makes you knowledgeable about them. Decades of research mean shit if we‘re talking about the quality of AP in current years.Actually, you living in Tokyo probably means you don’t even have place for more than 10 dresses and the way working culture is, you‘re not earning that much compared to lolitas in the west in the same profession(from a european perspective). It’s no secret living in Japan has many set-backs.
>>10507170If you live in Tokyo just "rent" from closet child. Buy secondhand from them. Wear a few times. Sell it back to them. Easy to go through more than 10 dresses in 6 years or whatever the figure was.
>>10507172>Implying buying a lot makes someone a shopping addict or can't be reasonableExcept you miss the fact that I'm specifically speaking about the idiots who are several thousands in debt in my comm or anons here who whine about having shopping addictions. As a teacher with great healthcare, it isn't hard to afford what I want. I'm happy where I am financially and I don't need to buy unnecessary dresses, skirts, accessories, etc. that I don't want.>>10507174>A few cgl posts don't make the whole community poor. Cgl is not a good way to measure the behavior of the community at largegood point and I agree>you specifically mentioned girls you knew in your commI mentioned both here >>10507170 and >>10507160>>10507184I currently own less than 10. I've been buying dresses from LaForet for years and Closet Child. I've sold a good chunk of my wardrobe during cleanouts last year. Just because I *currently* own less than 10 doesn't mean I have little to no experience. >>10507185My friend who is an idol in Shinjuku who has lived here for much longer than I have begs to differ. She has maybe 5 dresses since she focuses on making her lyrics, dances, etc. rather than lolita because being passionate for other hobbies is normal.>>10507188When did I ever claim to be an expert? >Actually, you living in Tokyo probably means you don’t even have place for more than 10 dresses That's hilarious considering the efamous lolitas here have enormous wardrobes, are teachers, and can afford new releases regularly. They live in small apartments as I do as well. It's not hard. There aren't many set backs and I don't ever want to go back to America where masks are considered political because everyone there is retarded.
>>10507192I do shop from CC but because the pandemic, I shop online only. I have an underlying condition, asthma so I don't want to risk getting sick.
>>10507197Tbh it’s somewhere between 2-3 am in Japan and you‘ve been defending yourself on cgl of all places for 5 fucking days now. Drop that holier than you attitude and just admit you‘ve made some wild generalisations about the western community, because you’re from the US and now you’re trying to flex your gaijin card to gain some credibility, even though it doesn’t help your case at all.
>>10507197Eh, this is pathetic
>>105071725 pieces a month can buy you a classic flap in a quarter tho
>>10507197>great healthcareJapan has a mandated national healthcare system, you larper. What does that have to do with you being a teacher at all?
>>10507197A fucking glorified babysitter (aka "gaijin teacher in Japan") making a barely livable wage is really trying to lecture the western lolita community on their proficiency in the fashion and their spending habits LOLThis is the funniest post I've read in a while. Fucking lost it at "my Shinjuku idol friend" - This really sounds like a larp. You're getting treated like a retard because you're acting like a retard. Your one or two comm members that are bad at managing money + a handful of "definitely 100% true" posts on /cgl/ (because no one lies on the internet, right) does not = we're all shopping addicts that are bad at personal finance. There's tons of us in STEM, many successful lolitas in high positions in marketing, finance, or running our own businesses, and with husbands/SOs who are also well-off. Those that were interested in lolita while they were in high school are now adults with BAs or Masters degrees, with well-paying careers. Just because there's loud teens or college students posting about (potentially nor even real) addictions/debts, doesn't mean the community at large is bad with money.
>>10507200It's 2:52am. I have family in the US so I don't have the best sleep schedule. For 5 days? I started the conversation a few hours ago. I made generalizations based on my own experiences. First I'm a larper and now I'm flexing my gaijin card? >>10507205considering hospital visits don't cost my entire life savings like it would in America kind of makes it great. At least compared to the shit healthcare there.
>>10507203but that's fucking ugly
>>10507213>Fucking lost it at "my Shinjuku idol friend" - This really sounds like a larp.She works in Shinjuku at a cafe and as an idol. She was a solo idol and has formed a group. I'm sorry you're stuck in a shit country and think it's unbelievable to save money and not be poor.
>>10507203I once considered buying one, because affording lolita regularly and affording luxury bags once a year isn’t that different. But honestly? 5 lolita dresses bring me more joy than one bag. You can save a lot when pre-loved, but there are so many scammers.
>>10507215this is timeless and vibrant piece that may boost any outfit up no matter how casual are you dressed
>>10507218its yellow tho
>>10507216You really must be larping, considering how often you mention a „shithole“ country. Did you even leave the US once before moving to Japan? Maybe do some overseas travels and you might realize that Japan isn’t that dreamy compared to other first world countries. Not everyone on cgl is a burger.Also, saying your friend is an idol is more an insult than a compliment. You should be aware of the idol industry.
>>10507217>5 lolita dresses bring me more joy than one bag.honestly, I'm completely opposite. I have a lot of pieces that I've never worn because it's a little excuses to do and I don't like wearing lolita casually. From this point it makes much more sense because I could enjoy it more often than lolita. Also, this bag looks classy and presents you as a respectable member of society. Lolita turns you into a target.>>10507220they come in a plenty of colors
>>10507223if this bag makes you happier than 5 lolita dresses that's completely valid but it's not the same for everyone
>>105072035 dresses is about 2500$ if they are 500$ each? New classic flaps aren't that cheap...and I don't even think 5 dresses is 2500$ including shipping.
>>10507226Also double and classic flaps aren't worth it. They're mass produced these days and the quality is not the same as 5+ years ago. The zipper inside is some cheap ykk zipper and they don't even stamp the left C anymore. Double flaps are 5900 for the small/medium size and that's without tax rates of 10% in California lol. Not worth imo unless you're ballin out of control and can regularly spend thousands of dollars on designer. Even a modest earner of a 100k salary shouldn't be buying luxuries like that unless it's a treat or they already own property and have a good amount of savings, but that's just me being frugal I guess?
>>10507223Idk about you, but I would constantly have to justify my decision to buy this bag, because it’s seen as braggy here (even by people who spend way more on travels, bikes and cars, so it‘s not the money). Of course lolitas are targets, but when did we really care about this? Even if I started luxury fashion, I‘d probably be a target, because I‘d be going to wear all pink like some other luxury instagrammers.
>>10507218You're assuming I'm wearing some normie shit though. Where would shit like this match with lolita? It'd look stupid. At least post VW or something.
>>10507229Naryt you might be able to match a mini flap/double flap with some coord because of the gold or silver hardware, but overall that specific type of bag is ill suited for lolita coords unless you throw a bow or whatever on it
>>10507216You're acting like being an idol and working in a cafe is some dream job, when in real life she's making like 800 yen an hour at the cafe and is in a detestable industry with no career protection as an idol. She's completely disposable and easily replaceable at either job. These are not the career moves that spark envy from anyone that isn't a 16 year old weeb.
>>10507226>>10507227I meant in a quarter, like 5pc x $300 each = $1500, which means $4500 in three month, and that seems like a price of classic flap second hand.
>>10507230but why would I buy expensive normie designer bags and then struggle to match them with lolita, instead of buying... lolita purses that match my wardrobe.
>>10507222Yes I’ve traveled but not lived in other countries so I don’t have experience in life there. I enjoy my life here considering I don’t have to worry about shipping and bloodbaths if I’m interested in a release. I don’t know much about the idol industry since I’m not one and not interested in idols/becoming one. She promotes her idol group often so I wasn’t aware it was an insult to call her an idol.
>>10507159ifwinterends is that you??
>>10507236In this case your american education failed you. I‘ve lived in Germany, Netherlands and Denmark and my husband and I decided to decline his job offers from Japan, because quality of life would be worse in every aspect we could think of, aside from having merchandise and lolita around us (which we can afford so much easier with our current jobs). Never had problems with getting stuff or shipping, because I have several friends in Japan as personal shoppers.Also, idol industry is very sad, maybe talk with your friend some more.
>>10507232For non lolita for sure it's worth it. The style of those two bags is timeless and black matches everything. Also double flaps hold their value and even sell for more so it's a pretty good investment piece.As for lolita, I prefer kate spade, VW, coach and some other luxury brands as they have more of a lolita aesthetic in a lot of their bags. VM and Kate Spade in particular; real leather is also preferable to shit pleather that will peel and flake eventually.
>>10507170>so if i don't buy every print, I’m poor? Why would i buy ugly prints that I don’t like?Newfag confirmed. Non-print dresses exist. Larp harder.
>>10507236Dumbass thinks every English speaker here must be American or live in the US. You know Europe exists, right? And many other people know more than one language
>>10507236>I don't know much about the idol industrywow you can put that right next to Lolita in the "things I pretend to be knowledgeable about on /cgl/ but in actuality I don't know shit" folder of your brain.
>>10507238Still petty and bitter as fuck I see. Somehow I'm not surprised, you don't grow out of that.
>>10507231I can't believe that some people think being a glorified waitress is a "dream job"
I got my bear in the mail and its defective? WTF? Would AP usa give me a refund on this? I never have this problem before
>>10507269Love standing on my feet not being allowed to sit while I work in the food service industry making minimum wage while I'm berated by both customers and coworkers with no job security or protection, learning 0 skills to help me climb the career ladder, totes dream job material guize!!
>>10507272Right? The only skills you would learn is patience and how to secretly create a union
>>10507273Inb4 OP comes back with some rose-tinted glasses bullshit of "it's not like that in Japan sweaty :^)))" as if rude customers and pitiful minimum wages in food service aren't universal
>>10507276Not to mention that since it's a "otaku cafe", you get the added pleasure of dealing with autistic nerds. Sounds like hell
>>10507278gross foreign nerds even. the kind of westerners who visit those places make me shudder.
>>10507106Anon, I don't understand why some anons are sounding jealous rn but this is the way I live too. It means we were raised right and we're not addicted to shopping. no worries.
>>10507319Ain‘t the best fashion to be frugal. Are also jelly of people can just afford this lifestyle and still have savings?
>>10507323A lot of people have a hate boner against people who choose to have small wardrobes. If you are going to blow that much money on a fashion, you might as well do it on things that will actually be worn and appreciated. I'd love to be rich, but I don't see myself putting that money into lolita.
>>10507350I agree. I can afford a lot of dresses among other luxury goods, but I don't wear most of them. It's really stressful having so much stuff so I stared selling many years back.
>>10507350>>10507354It’s called priorities and it‘d be nice if you‘d stop having a hate-boner for people who actually like to spend money on lolita, just because you don‘t.
>>10507356This, if you read up the original convo isn't even shitting on people with small wardrobes. the point is that someone with 10 dresses doesn't have much to go off in judging lolita quality
>>10507319why would anyone be jealous at the fact you have less dresses. Think about it.>It means we were raised right and we're not addicted to shoppingwhy do you think people that can afford to buy more than you must have shopping additions instead of maybe, just maybe, they make more money than you. why is this an unfathomable concept. Once I get my BA next year, starting salary at my job will be 75-80k. If I keep living the same exact way I'm living now, that would be over 5k to spend on lolita every month if I truly wanted to. Do you understand how stupid the mentality of "if someone buys more of something than me, they must have issues">>10507350>If you are going to blow that much money on a fashion, you might as well do it on things that will actually be worn and appreciated.this might blow your fucking mind but some of us that buy lolita more than you do actually wear it more than you do, too
>>10507170I make 60k USD and have no expenses besides my car and apt. I can buy literally whatever release I want and will be able to put a huge downpayment on a house with my savings in a few years, if not pay one off completely and retire early in 10 yrs
>>10507350This is a luxury hobby and you sound like you work at McDonalds and can't fathom other women being more successful than you are.Nobody cares if you have a small wardrobe, at all. Lots of girls have small wardrobes for a lot of different reasons. We have entire threads dedicated to small wardrobes all the time. But you come off like a salty poorfag when you act like anyone with a large wardrobe has massive debt, a shopping addiction, or never wears their pieces.Lots of girls wear their pieces more often than you apparently do. There's a lot more daily lolitas than you seem to think, and there's a fuckton of us who wear burando every day even if we aren't styling it in a full lolita coord. And lots of girls make more money and/or have more disposable income than you. I make enough that I have over $100k/year in disposable income. That could buy a hell of a lot of new releases if I wanted it to. And I know a couple girls in the fashion who are literally multi-millionaires.
>>10507371>Once I get my BA next year, starting salary at my job will be 75-80kNot arguing against any of your points, but you're be surprised how underpaid you can be at your first job. Also,>coronavirus Unless you're going into a medical/STEM field, good luck. When you graduate, you'll be fighting against millions of people who lost their jobs, plus everyone who has already graduated and is fighting to get a job. A lot of these people are skilled, educated workers. 2021 is going to be one of the worst years for the job market.Alternatively maybe that means secondhand lolita will get cheaper.
>>10507350Ok, but what if, sit yourself down in case you faint, we do wear our large wardrobes? The judgment on both sides is high key hilarious though, I'll admit that.
>>10507350I have never seen anyone get shat on for having a small wardrobe, only a shitty one
>>10507396What does any of this shit you are saying matter or relevant to the conversation? My point was that people, many people, can comfortably afford to buy lolita without going into shopping addiction-fueled credit card debt.
>>10507374Where do you live? Even a shitty apartment in CA is 500k+ and it won't even be modern.
>>10507203>>10507223Look, I'm trying to be completely honest here.If a normie bag makes you happier than lolita dresses, then this probably isn't the right hobby for you. In fact, I can't even figure out why you own so many dresses if you don't wear them, need an excuse to wear them, and then proceed to say some random normie stuff is better because it's more expensive. Seriously, with no bad feelings, you should just sell off your lolita closet, buy the handbag of your dreams and go live your life. It's too short to spend it on a hobby where you buy dresses you don't wear while telling everyone about the dream handbag you didn't buy instead of those dresses.
>>10507482Not everyone lives in CA, there's 49 other states where millions of people live
>>10507596Hence the ask
>>10507271This sucks, I’ve heard most have had problems with this bear, my own getting a defective wing. I’m curious to hear whether something can be done about this but apparently not, I guess I won’t be buying much AP anymore, seriously fuck them.Baby is new bff
>>10507482OH. Cost of living here is great. Commuting to a city but not living in the city is the way to afford a good lifestyle
>>10507927My milky bears have been fine, but one of my kumyas has a really wonky arm and super crooked eyes. I feel like it happens regardless of brand, sadly.