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Keep it /cgl/-related! Cosplay or J-fashion like Lolita/Brolita, Aristocrat, Kimono, Nanchatte, etc.!

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ITT you may post:
- Useful guides that can be applied to crossplaying/crossdressing
- Questions, help, sharing advice to improve your appearance to pass temporary as the opposite gender (Male -> Female, Female -> Male)
- pictures of crossplay/crossdressing coords, selfposts
- personal experience/stories regarding crossplay/crossdressing

NOT allowed:
- Anything in sexual context/fetish stuff
- Anything related to gender transition like hormones, operation etc.; >>>/lgbt/ might be the better place for this
- Casual crossdressing without any /cgl/-context
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Link collection:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K_dKpZOqzVkbN2MtmiU9yTn4LDIfxIhLQAuc8L9xX1k/edit#gid=0

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Previous thread: >>10420807
Image source: https://twitter.com/Rei_Dunois/status/1274648158530756608
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What's the best way to practice makeup techniques (contouring etc.) without making everyone you meet think you're a bit weird? Especially when it comes to judging my work's long-term viability (e.g. holding up all day during a con), I'm not sure how I should be approaching this.
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>>10503149
Just do it on your days off. Turn your heat up if you really want to stress test it. Also omegle and Chatrpulette are where I always tested makeup
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>>10502682
How does the community respond to mediocre or shit crossplay? Seems like it's without a doubt the easiest kind of cosplay to fuck up and one that'll get you one of the worst reactions for doing so.
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>>10504889
I've found that most people at cons and such tend to be the live-and-let-live type - so long as you aren't acting like you're hot shit when you're just kinda shitty, you shouldn't get too much trouble. If you're walking around in a generally mediocre costume of any type, though, don't expect praise for it - you're basically just part of the background noise at that point, so don't think much of it when nobody pays you much attention.

There's plenty of bearded sailor moons out there already, so as long as you don't manage to pull something especially terrible you'll be fine.
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>>10503149
how do i even get started with makeup? I treally dont know where to start...

am not a woman so nobody teached me that shit
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>>10502682
who is this in the OP pic?
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>>10505879
watch makeup tutorials, figure out your skin type for foundation but #1 is watching tutorials. You don't necessarily need the expensive products they use, but you can use them as a guide for what to get. it's going to look dogshit the first few times you try, so don't worry too much
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>>10506020
its Rei_Dunois and I would suck his dick, no homo
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>>10506175
I'd spray his insides with my DNA no homo
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>>10505879
No one necessarily teaches women either. Look at YouTube, heaps of tutorials.
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You guys think Venti counts as crossplay? I mean just look at this one.
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>>10507442
In that outfit, if you are a male, for sure. You are cosplaying a man wearing very feminine clothes so you are also crossdressing.

Others are pretty neutral so I wouldn't call it crossplay.
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>>10502682
How can I crossplay if I'm a tall 6'2 dude with wide shoulders
Is it even possible without looking like an idiot
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>>10511099
Not gonna lie you have it pretty hard.

You wouldn't look like an idiot if you chose some female character in full armor, but you might just look like a dude in full armor. At least it's not cringe. Height is only a problem if you cosplay in public, otherwise you can take a photo in front of a wall and people won't be able to too your height without references.
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>Crossdress in own time
>Often misgendered in public
>Can't get the confidence to crossplay
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>>10511253
Alright thanks
I think this kinda stuff is fun, but if I can't do it not abysmally then there's not much of a point
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My shoulders are 42-43cm end to end, is that too broad? I'm very self conscious about them. I'm trying to lose weight too but I don't think it'll make much difference to my shoulders though.
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>>10511341
Shoulder width only matters in relation to the rest of the body. The same width could look normal on a person with wide hips or gigantic on a skinny person.
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>>10511366
Eh that's what I feared. I'm 5' 7" and 140lbs but my target weight is 120lbs. I kind of had a depression binge recently and being in lockdown going nowhere hasn't helped. It's slowly dropping back down to 120. My natural weight is 110lbs but I think that might be kind of unhealthy so it's no longer my target.
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Any tips on epilating, I’ve gone for it a couple times but holy fuck the pain is a barrier. Thinkin to just get fuckin wasted and then try it maybe?
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>>10511658
I take painkillers and wax. Epilators are less messy, but they require way more mental fortitude than waxing.
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>>10511658
I want to get an epilator. If I can tweeze individual leg hairs out and feel euphoric from the feeling do you think an epilator would be painful to me? I often sit and tweeze leg hairs when I'm stressed as a form of self harm that doesn't actually injure or leave marks.
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>>10511099
Oh nonono, u can crossplay as shehulk
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>>10511666

Fellow tweezer. It's not the same, it feels different and not quite as euphoric sadly. There's nothing like having the satisfaction of pulling out a single hair
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>>10511331
damn post pics cutie
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>>10511662
It definitely requires some serious fuckin masochistic tendencies, honestly though, all I’ve learned thus far is that if you can make it through the first sixty seconds, you can make it through to the end
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>>10512255
I was the D.Va anon from last thread who plucked my entire beard to have a perfectly clear face. It was clear for a week and damn did it stay clear for a while. Facial Hair is growing in very soft and nice now that ingrown hairs have been deleted.

>>10507582
Yeah so just cosplay of course. Silly me (;
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>>10512269
Good lord, that must have taken for fucking ever, though it definitely looks like it was well worth it. How long did it stay clear? How thick has it grown back in?
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>>10512269
Nice to finally see a face pic, you pulled it off well!
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>>10512272
Yeah I was working from home and it took nearly 20 hours. Took a lot of breaks and my face got dried out by the glow in the dark paint I was using on the mask I painted. But yeah like a full 24 hours passed at least to finish doing my facial hair. It really did feel perfect and the smoothness I have now is nice but really patchy. Its easy as heck to shave though!!

I do NOT recommend it for just anything. I did it because I wanted to remain hairless from Thursday to Sunday. Unneeded unless you're going away and wanna be hairless the entire week. Its an extremely painful experienxe that will take all your power to not give up especially if your beard can get thick like mine (used to?).
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How easily could this be pulled off?
https://dokidokicos.com/collections/dokidoki-ssr/products/dokidoki-ssr-game-genshin-impact-keqing-cosplay-ke-qing-costume

Biggest thing I'm worried about is the side chest area where it's lower cut and you can kinda see the chest. I'm not sure how I'd make that look convincing and/or hide a nu-bra or whatever other fake tits would work.
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>>10512161
I'm no cutie, I think I get misgendered for the wrong reason. I'm pretty sure I get confused for a butch lesbian rather than a cute grill, I don't have the build or the hair but I think I just have that kind of femininely boyish face. When I tell people I'm a boy they ask me if I was born a boy/if I have boy parts. I'm not sure I could effectively cosplay an anime girl, I just always look androgynous no matter what I do. I've never been able to cut a wig properly so maybe that's the key that I'm missing but I feel like it would just drown my face.
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What are your options if you've got a fridge body and wide shoulders? I mean I'm really thin but my shoulders are kind of broad and my torso is box-y.
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>>10512892
Lots of shapewear. Hope you're willing to pay out the ass for corsets and hip pads, bro.
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>>10512892
Either >>10513044 or picking a character with an outfit that can conceal shoulders, like big shoulder pads.
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I crossdress for fun even though I am 100% straight and not questioning my gender.
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>>10513189
That's a decent amount of people here, bro. We're mostly just doing it for fun.
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>>10513191
Nice bro
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>>10513189
>>10513191

>NOT allowed:
- Casual crossdressing without any /cgl/-context

Read the rules
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>>10513191
How is this cross dressing? It's just a dude dressed like he's from the 80s
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>>10513322
I mean seriously.
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How much does being 5'6 help with crossplay
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>>10514932
It does help to not be unusualy tall by female standards.
However height alone doesn't say much.
>how wide are your shoulders?
>how masculine is your face?
>how large are your feet?
>what's you bodyshape?
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>>10514942
>somewhere between 15 and 16 inches sadly
>i have a round kinda babyface but big chin
>9.5 men's iirc, i can find womens shoes in my size in stores without resorting to buying drag queen shit, but they're p big ofc
>vague hourglass? i have a decent amount of hip fat compared to most dudes
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>>10514945
>shoulders
How did you measure?
Outside to outside (bideltoid)
Bone center to bone center (biacrominal)
Mens median biacrominal is 400 mm, bideltoid is 470 mm.
Womens median biacrominal is 360 mm, bideltoid is 400 mm.
>face
Hard to tell.
>shoes
That's a little large, but still ok.
>hourglass
Would be good for you, what kind of waistline are we talking about?
Hips can be expanded with padding.
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>>10514955
Outside to outside I think.

>waistline
Like, my waist measurement? I'm like 36/31 or 32/37 or something. Not THAT hourglass-y but i guess vaguely.
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>>10514959
Sorry, 36/31-32/37
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>>10507442
Crossplay is when you cosplay as a character with the opposite sex to yours, so if you're male and cosplaying another male that just looks very effeminate that's still cosplay. You're cosplaying a trap essentially, cosplaying a character that is a boy that looks like a girl.
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I promised my friend I'd wear lolita (brolita for me) with her after the pandemic. Since vaccine is coming I thought I'd start looking into it now. It seems like brolita isn't looked upon nicely in the community due to rampant cringe fetishist weirdos. So how do I not look cringe? I don't know anything about this fashion yet and I don't want to embarrass myself, embarrass her, or make other lolita wearers uncomfortable when I do this.

Pic related looks nice to me and is the kind of thing I'm going for I guess
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>>10517815
>So how do I not look cringe?
As a dude, you're almost guaranteed to look cringe unless you happen to be short, thin, naturally androgynous, good at makeup, good at styling hair/wigs, good at crossdressing, and good at making coords.

Just wear ouji.
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>>10517844
I'm thin and I have a super androgynous face. Tall though. Isn't the rest of it just a matter of research and practice?
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>>10517847
Focus on having a good coord and learning makeup and hair care. You will always be looked at with a side eye but you can earn respect if you look good. Love the dude on the left.
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any recommendations for a good binder? I value effectiveness over comfort.

and also any general tips on how to look more boyish in cosplay
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>>10517958
Shoulder pads.
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I want to do this cosplay but I have no idea how to handle the umm "lower half" I want it to be you know not noticeable. Any ideas on how I can do that?
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>>10518241
Learn to tuck.
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>>10518258
I try but it always shows at least a little bit. Is there any way to make it unnoticeable completely?
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>>10518260
gaff and tuck
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>>10517815
>So how do I not look cringe?

Some input:
>Don't rush things. Take your time and do proper research
>Find inspiration of your prefered style and try pinpointing what you are looking for
>Learn about the basic DOs and DON'Ts of coording, purchasing and garnment quality
>Try to learn what your body features are and how you can work around them to flatter them (What suits you? What doesn't?)
>Sometimes less is more. Don't go over the top with your first coord, keep it humble
>Hair/wig styling and make-up will be what makes or breaks your coord in the end. To an extend this does also apply to grooming in general
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How the fuck so you wear a fucking wig properly and style I can't imagine trying to wear a fucking wig all day
Do I need to like trim this shit and use like hair spray or something
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>>10518491
Most wigs, like the one you've shown, aren't ready to use out of the box, the hair is much longer than what you want, but this is for a good reason: it has to be this long for you to be able to cut it and style it to match the character you want.

Search how to cut and style wigs on YouTube. If you are cosplaying a popular character you can usually find a tutorial for it. Otherwise, just search for the generic hair style. Here's a very basic tutorial: https://youtu.be/qS3vYS7NcoQ?list=PLhX3xUBGEtrnNXOYYYiE8jlREZYkdphb3
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>>10518260
>balls go up into the body, dick gets taped rear, 1 undersized pany, 1 normal sized panty
It doesn't get any less noticeable than that.
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Hi
I would like go for Lolita fashion as a dude. Kindly someone from the Lolita community already gives me some advices. However, she is not familiar with the “dude related” stuff.
I have a little bit experience in “normal” crossdressing but I’m far away to being an expert. My questions are:
Where can I find a good wig and how much money you would invest?
Where to buy shoes for Lolita fashion in man size?
Do you were a bra with little silicon breasts or do you think it is not necessary ?
Thank you for you help an cheers
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>>10518544
>Where can I find a good wig and how much money you would invest?
Depends on your head circumference. Passable lolita wigs can be bought at 20-30 bucks with lots of air upwards for quality purchases. If your head is rather big, you want to be extra careful to buy wigs with big enough wigcaps, both for wearing comfort and looks.

>Where to buy shoes for Lolita fashion in man size?
Depends on your shoe size. Sizes above EU 41/42 will become harder to purchase. Antaina or Angelic Imprint on Taobao are well known for making custom orders for shoes.

>Do you were a bra with little silicon breasts or do you think it is not necessary ?
Padding is usually not necessary unless you really want/need it. There are very few specific dress cuts that may look slightly better with some filling, but otherwise you're completely fine without.
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hey guys, you probably get asked this a lot, but approximately what would you say is the maximum amount of lewd considered acceptable in public spaces like conventions? I don't want to make anyone too uncomfortable or risk getting kicked out of anywhere
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>>10519589
What do you mean, like, lewd outfits? My local con you could do at the most a swimsuit or skimpy outfit that thoroughly covers boobs and genitals
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>>10519599
I just want to know what the rules are, the general feeling of what's accepted and what's not at cons, and how much this stuff varys from place to place. fully lewd outfits are probably the most extreme example so let's start there, like, for a character that goes around partially naked, you might make an outfit that included exposed breast forms where the fake nipples are visible. would that be banned everywhere?
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>>10519636
Absolutely, yes.
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>>10517815
She's grooming you.
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>>10502682
I'm probably just repeating >>10505879 in a sense, but I'm really curious if there's any tutorials or guides out there specifically targeted at complete beginners. More specifically, I'm looking for works intended to establish common background information other guides might assume a viewer already knows and understands - basic stuff like what primers, foundations, and concealers are used for and what makes them different, what powder is, etc. Basically, anything about makeup that will probably seem exceedingly obvious to everyone with at least a basic level of experience, but that might confuse someone who lacks that general background knowledge.
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Someday I'm gonna crossplay as Violet Evergarden.
Does anyone know a site which got good quality costume and boots?
I've been searching especially the boots.
But most of them don't look exactly like the anime.
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>>10522560
Aliexpress has some nice VIolet costumes, you can even order custom sizes for the same price. I friend bought one there and it was nice.

As for the boots, I can't say much.
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Pretty new to the whole crossplay thing and I'm hoping anyone could help me with where to find padding or something similar.
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>>10523319
You can search for 'breast forms' on any big store. Amazon and Aliexpress come to mind. They range from $10 to insanely expensive but the basic ones are enough.
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>>10523525
Cheers anon, I'll give it a look.
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I want to get a sailor uniform, is ezcosplay.a good shop? Prices look decent and they do custom sizes.
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is there a list or guide for feminine mannerisms?
if I wanna look like a girl I gotta act like one
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>>10525537
misako's guide on YT, also there are some vintagewear and girly channels with good vids about etiquette and presenting/appearing more feminine in your body language. i usually avoid tradwife content but the RPW subreddit unironically has a masterlist of good styling and mannerism tips in their sidebar
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WHERE do i find a good maid dress? I want something nice and not aliexpress shit
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>>10527606
Milky ange
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>>10527606
Milky ange. It's a japanese brand. They have all sorts of styles and cuts and a wide range of sizes too
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>>10522560
One of my friends who’s 6’ got his from Uwowo iirc. Don’t remember where he got his boots though.
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>>10512269
You should never ever pluck your facial hairs, enjoy your scarring
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>>10528287
>You should never ever pluck your facial hairs, enjoy your scarring
Where did you pick that up
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Do you guys use your regular voice or a female one? If so how the hell did you master a female sounding voice
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>>10529776
Practice. Pitch is only a small part that takes little time to raise significantly. Tone, cadence, etc. Are the bitch and overexaggerating is what makes trannies sounds like trannies.
No I don't use it, cause I don't care, and it's fun the odd time someone is tricked and hear a deep voice the first time
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>>10529776
I practice a female voice for fun but will never ever use it in front of anyone because I find it incredibly cringe. Just use your regular male voice. It will make people cringe less and be more comfortable around you.

If you want to learn there's tutorials on youtube. They aren't that detailed but it's better than nothing.
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Alright, hypothetical scenario.
Say I were to cosplay elizabeth bathory brave, and I stay true to canon and wear a bikini armor top that is too big, consequently flashing my nipples.
For the sake of argument, let's ignore the bikini bottom for now, assume I go off model for that and wear regular pants if you will.
Also for the sake of argument, assume I have makeup skills and trap aesthetics down to a T.
Do you think it would:
a) be super cringy because people would be super quick to notice there's a guy in a bikini
b) make people do a double take and ultimately have fun with it
c) get me in trouble with the con staff because a certain percentage of people is unobservant enough to actually fall for it
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>>10529776
Yeeeah the only time I dared to do a "female" voice was when performing karaoke of Lovefool. Since it was only for three minutes (and I was facing a screen the whole time), not really sure how it went over.
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>>10530102
People would notice you are a guy, it would be cringe and you might get in trouble with staff. Put some clothes on you filthy exibitionist.
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>>10530525
Is showing a male chest really exhibitionism?
I totally get the cringe part, but I doubt the staff would care.
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>>10530540
It is when you're masquerading as a trap.
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ever had a guy hit on you?
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Generally, how is crossplay received at cons? Are most people generally accepting/don't care because they're at a con and everyone is in cosplay, or do you still get some weird looks?
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>>10532055
Yes
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>>10532382
most people don't care. you're either trying or you aren't, and it's usually obvious.
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>>10532397
And? What happened afterwards? Did you take advantage of outrage culture to get them b&?
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>>10514959
15-16in bideltoid is tiny what the hell
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>>10530540
I'm pretty sure that's not ok in most cons even if you're male
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>>10532382
It's been nothing but praise on my end. I've only done it twice so far, but got a compliment or a photo within the first ten minutes of showing up both times. And since I've only crossplayed before, I'm not sure if the praise is coming specifically BECAUSE it's crossdressing or not. Hmm.
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>>10532382
Either everyone's accepting, or they don't care/too scared to say anything. Even when you don't look good.
>Once tried the less makeup is more approach. I cringe looking at the pictures

Tho there was one amusing time, buddies and I dressed up as sailor scouts one day, second we were splinter cells/mercenaries. Second day we were all looking at some table and heard a fairly girthy man behind say something about "you girls look way better than those sailor guys". We all heard it, turned around to see the guy taking a picture of a group of girl scouts. Said something to the guy, and he fucked off when we all started talking to the girl scouts. They loved it and thought it was great seeing male sailor scouts.
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What are some good characters to crossplay for girl with a strong square jaw but kind of large eyes?

Think a slightly babyfaced living Jack Kirby drawing.
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I ordered a binder from gc2b a month ago with expedited shipping and they haven't even posted it yet. People on their ig are saying the same, and they're not responding to emails either. rip to the only good binder company.
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>>10535347
I've got something similar.
I ordered a gaffe from Hidden Candy Boutique all the way back in July 2020, but it still hasn't shipped. It seemed like they were swamped with orders for a while, since they flat-out stopped accepting requests for quite some time, but they've started taking orders again and I still don't have the product I paid for. I tried getting in touch in October, but all I got was a message with "your product will be ready in a few weeks," and yet, a few weeks later, no product arrived.

I don't know if anyone else has or is experiencing something like this from them, but at this point I've lost most of my hope.
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>>10502682
Are brolitas really a thing still? I thought they went extinct in every comm of the world
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>>10536093
its not quite the same thing but the rise of twitter traps means there's now a constant stream of confused teen boys experimenting with their sister's panties and deciding they want to start crossdressing, and a portion of those will always end up in the crossplay community, probably through finding this place, so I think it'll only get bigger
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>>10536479
As if I didn't hate men enough already.
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>>10536483
technology for male pregnancy is coming soon, ur obsolete desu roast-chan
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>>10536483
Why are you so mean? Trans women need your help not your hate.
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>>10536564
No one deserves any help
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>>10532055
All the time. I'm not even that cute
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Hey I know nothing about corsets and I want to cosplay angel dust when conventions are back. Is there any brand or material any of you would recommend that wouldn't be super painful for a beginner?
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>>10536483
based
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>>10538004
You deserve the pain for wanting to perpetuate that cancer.
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>>10538166
how else am I supposed to attain an hourglass figure?
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>>10538211
Shapewear, ideally some sort of full length faja. Serves the same basic function except it's intended for genuine modern every day use. Personally also wear a waist cincher that has elastic around the mid point of the waist because the full body faja doesn't pull the waist in well on its own, but for your purposes that may not be needed.
Plus you have to pad your hips. I don't care what anyone has to say about it, as a male, outside of freak genetic anomalies, you will not have the hip width to attain a proper hourglass figure, as "hourglass" comes from the contrast of width between hips and waist, not just waist width and not just hip width. You need both. Even if you're technically cosplaying a male character, again, hourglass is contrast, not just pulling one body part in or out.
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>>10513189
>I crossdress for fun even though I am 100% straight and not questioning my gender.
Press X to Doubt.
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>>10538264
some people just wanna look cute. also drag is a thing.
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>>10537989
bet u are
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>>10538166
Aw someone needs their bulgy wolgy nuzzled.
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>>10502682
i'm pretty new at this and i only got to try out crossdress once at a con before covid hit :P would appreciate some pointers

i'm curious as to how to manage broad shoulders when crossplaying
is there some sort of trick? i feel like i have an okay body figure to do this except for my torso/shoulders

also
what should i do about my face and hair?? again, i think i have the right face structure to pass OK, but i'm completely lost as to what to do for grooming, makeup, hair styling, etc.

any good resources to learn from would be appreciated
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>>10538211
>>10538693
I mean Angel Dust. I've had enough of HH shilling and people trying to push that ugly thing of all the characters as the mascot.
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>>10539779
Aw someone needs some snuggles. I'm sure once you try it you will love him forever.
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>>10518241
Let your bulge fly free!
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>>10518241
Get a dancers belt
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>>10539701
>Shoulders
Posture does a lot. If you arch your shoulders backwards it will give you a much more feminine look from certain angles and work wonders on photographs. However, it can look really silly and unnatural in person. Picking a character with big armored shoulderpads helps hide them.

>Facial hair
Clean your face and shave in advance with a razor. Before the event apply some orange makeup over the beard shadow (beard skin tends to look blue-ish and the orange covers it up) and then do a basic foundation with your natural skin tone. If it looks too orange add less, if it looks too dark add more. There's tons of tutorials about this on youtube, look it up.
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>>10539970
>Picking a character with big armored shoulderpads helps hide them.
op pic does this much more efficiently, he just wore a scarf that left the edge of his shoulders/biceps exposed, but covered the rest of his shoulders and collarbone, which was enough to disguise how broad they are
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>>10540053
I think that was to cover the seams of the breastplate as well. Clever indeed.
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>>10539970
thanks anon! appreciate it
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>>10518241
literallly what is the point of crossplaying if not to have a cute bulge?
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>>10541456
To accurately portray a character of the opposite sex?
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Hearing opinions from Enako to make cosplay copyright rules
Is there a copyright fee for cosplaying as an anime or game character? -. The government has begun to develop rules to prevent cosplay, which is becoming popular overseas, from becoming a copyright problem.
https://www.nikkansports.com/general/news/202101230000859.html
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>>10541779
so they want to tax cosplay
what the hell man
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>>10541795
>so they want to tax cosplay
It's the exact opposite.

Cosplay is a valuable cultural good for japan and important for their campaign of exporting japanese culture into the world. The goverment fears the strict copyright laws might impede the further growth of popularity as cosplayers could get in trouble for commiting to it. This does not necessarily count for those who do it in private, but moreso for the group of people who participate in contests or upload photos on social media.

Basically, they're trying to work out a law for fair use specifically for cosplayers to make sure they won't get in trouble for it.
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>>10541802
oh, my bad
That would be actually nice
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>>10512269
VOTE FOR PRES





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