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>>10488839>so, corona virus tests?I briefly gave thought to making the contest “best picture of licking doorknobs while in costume”, But decided it was unfair
Hey anons, pistolier fag from the last thread here asking about boots again. I was wondering if boots like pic related had a specific name? Searching vague terms like 15th Century boots gets too scattershot a range of options
>>10489154If you're doing a pistolier you'll want 17th century boots, not 15th. They're often called "bucket boots" or "cavalier boots", sometimes you see "musketeer boots" too.
What is the worst supplier for larp armor (epic armoury, mytholon, etc.) and why ?I also require pics of siege weapons used in larp.
>>10489166>What is the worst supplier for larp armor (epic armoury, mytholon, etc.) and why ?India, and because of India
>>10489154“___century riding boots” typicaly works.Also, they tend to be categorized by height. “___ century knee/thigh high boots”>>10489171Pretty much.
>>10489166>>10489171Epic, because it's indian armor that lies about being Indian but still has most of the flaws and way better marketing.
Aaaaand Im done for 2020.Organised 3 games of ~50 people each, almost weekly training sessions, workshops, consulting and so on and so forth. All that could be done to keep the hobby stable in Corona world was done at least as far as im concerned.
>>10489191Hey Gropey, I dropped you an email last thread and never heard back. See if you got one from hussaranon, maybe I fucked it up.
>>10490789Never got one. Resend to screwloosecircus AT gmail DOT com
how do I get a history larper bf? Do boys who are into this stuff like to visit museums and travel, or just do costumes?
>>10491220Just visit larps and/or re-enactments, I guess? Just socialize and try to find a date the normal way. I'm not aware of any specific platforms for larp dating that didn't turn out to be a massive failure.Why this awfully specific desire though?
>>10491243I want someone who's into history like I am. I only had luck dating nerds, and I like animation and vidya fine, but I wish I had someone to share this interest with, and learn from. And who'd possibly dress as a knight or templar for sex
>>10491220trust me you don’t want one. I had a larper bf before and he couldn’t separate larp from reality. most of these guys’ lives revolve around larping. you’re better of finding a /fa/ bf or one in the fashion industry if you want to do those things.
>>10491256Yeah, just go to events on your choice and hit on some guys. Guys at larps tend to be easy as shit to seduce, anyway, so long as you dare to make the first move.This >>10491258 is kinda true though, plenty of people within the hobby take it way too seriously. Vet your candidate partners carefully.
>>10491220like how you get any other kind of gf or bf. Being a decent with communication skills, going out meeting various people not just sitting at the computer and a medium amount of luck
>>10491220Professional history larper/historic museum interpreter here:The question is, what do you do? If you’re not already involved in historic recreation, living history, or museum interpretation, you’re going to have a hard time finding somebody who is to date.Also, quality attracts quality. Don’t date farbs, and peacock yourself by being progressive and accurate with your kit.Otherwise, its like dating in any other community or hobby, just with more silly hats.
>>10491271>The question is, what do you do? If you’re not already involved in historic recreation, living history, or museum interpretation, you’re going to have a hard time finding somebody who is to date.THIS>Don’t date farbsALSO THIS
>>10491271In any other situation I would not take dating advice from somebody named “gropey”.
>>10491349>In any other situation I would not take dating advice from somebody named “gropey”.Crazy how the universe works eh?
>>10491220You might spot some at museums, i tend to spend a long time making sketches and photographs for reference of specific armour articulations and such
>>10491349I can't believe that you'd question the romantic acumen of a professional clown.
>>10491256>dress as a knight for sexForget it. Imagine spending 40-100 hours and several hundred euros on silk/wool and now illegal furs just to get cum on it.Casual.
>>10491608Imagine your gambeson smelling like decaying jizz- oh wait, it probably already kinda does
>>10491492How tall are you?
>>10491608also, it's not that easy to get out of proper cloths that is after 15th century. I mean there are loopholes of course, like you can just deattach the codpiece, or be a pig disgusting barbarian before 15th and have non joined hose...The girls have it way easier with the skirts (though they have the problem of several skirts)
>>10491629you can always be a 15th century Italian and wear separated hose
>>10491612Not him but he’s like 6 foot ish
>>10491631yeah but at that point you are already more interested in men than in women
>>10491634Sod off, you're just mad the Italians have art and culture.
>>10491634>>10491674I mean, I'd argue but i have a 15th century Italian kit and like men, so checks out I guess
>>10491271>The question is, what do you do? If you’re not already involved in historic recreation, living history, or museum interpretation, you’re going to have a hard time finding somebody who is to date.I work in tourism in a provencial european town. I'm writing and illustrating a small book about our town history. I guess you're still right though, maybe larpers are too specific>>10491601>You might spot some at museums, i tend to spend a long time making sketches and photographs for reference of specific armour articulations and suchthat's so cute anon, I do that too. i'll keep an eye for that>>10491608the cum goes nowhere else but inside me, dummy
>>10491708>insideSTRANGER DANGER, STRANGER DANGER
>>10491674As another man owning a velvet giornea that makes me about a meter wide... I'm not into men but my split hosen are just there for easy acces.I even got sources complaining about how 'inviting' they were paired with the exposed shirts and tight doublets.>>10491679This is confronting, but not surprising.
>>10491708Oh neat, I've been struggling with a few specific things on my war of the roses kit. Though I might be able to go to the UK after covid calms the fuck down and get hands on with some royal armouries pieces.
>>10491674contrary to popular belief, gaying up everything isn't culture, but I can admit they do it in a level that can be considered an art.
>>10491726are you sketches anon? I'd love to see your stuff if you have a blog or something. I'm not in the UK (I'm italian) but they do have some of the best larping events up there, been to one
>>10491732Not their fault the first thing you think of when you see a depiction of the male body is sodomy.
>>10491719Happen to have those sources on hand? I'm curious to see what was said and by whom.
>>10491739there are various similar accounts, also stuff about short gowns that doesn't cover the groin area properly when sitting, etc. Just ask a really conversative guy who is 60+ years old what he thinks about how the youths nowdays dress and you will get basically the same arguments>>10491737WRONG! I think about phallic symbols like swords and daggers, which are manly things proven by science
>>10491733Nope I'm not, and not from the UK.I've got an insta but that doesn't have any recent kit pics or armour projects, mostly goldsmithing projects. Still have to size adjust all my medieval kit so I can get some decent pics. My doublet is probably a goner though
>>10491742cute crafts, followed
>>10491492Ya’ll are cute!
Why is so much of larp focused on medieval stuff anyway? Am I the only one who likes Thirty Years' War and Napoleonic periods much better? Much sweeter costumes, cooler weapons, and Strange and Norrell demonstrate you don't even have to throw out your fantasy shit if you just gotta have an elf in the game to feel calm.
>>10491833Gropey does 1700s fantasy and another anon does Napoleonic fantasy.
>>10491833No, you aren't, but it seems like the main thing people take away from 30yrs war and napoleonic stuff is "OoO, guns" and then are too lazy to make a decent way to support that. Now if only there was a good way to have a horse in a larp so I can ride down filthy peasants.
>>10491833Because you haven't gone and written those larps yet. I'm sure there's enough interest for such larps, so be the change you want to see in the world.
>>10491833most people don't like, care or know about them.
>>10491492What uniform is that?
>>1049183330 Years war is decently prevalent, not sure what you're talking about desu... most Nordics pretty much start from that time period and later.I've been so dying to find a good early medieval nordic I made my own.>>10491742J e f f j e f f j e f f
>>10491220Just got to history and larp events and meet people. As a history student who does larp, if someone shows interest in what I study, 10/10, doesn't even matter if they're not an academic or whatever.>>10491726I've been meaning to do a royal armouries trip as its just across the city from me, should really get round to it before lockdown part 2 electric boogaloo, thanks for the reminder anon.>>10491833Generally its because the punters like generic fantasy, which is largely medieval themed at least. Saying that, from the Larps I do, there's a medieval-y high fantasy fest, then a wild west, post apoc, Arthurian , viking and potentially a pirate and warhammer fantasy larp. You just have to shop around a bit. The reason generally is that unless you go very rules lite, doing guns can feel a bit crap. I personally can't do guns without caps and blanks, because just pointing at someone and shouting bang or firing nerf rounds makes me want to die.
>>10491982If you happen to come across some examples of war of the roses period gauntlets, can you post those in the thread? I'm still looking for some to reproduce for my Ser John Savile/Lionel lord Welles kit.
>>10491982What the fuck is a punter?You do bring up a valid point, which I think contributes to why we see so few larps with guns nowadays. I see three common ways of implementing guns in larps: using airsoft replicas, using Nerf blasters, and using blanks/purely symbolic. There's a LOT of people that only want to play in a larp with guns if it's implemented in their preferred way, and that massively reduces the amount of potential players.For me, it's Nerf or nothing.
>>10491983Will do anon. It'll probably be next week earliest, busy scalping myself researching crusade era relics right now.>>10491984It's informal bong slang for a customer in an offhand, informal kinda way, don't worry about it. I agree with that, I understand why people like the "gun actually shoots projectile" thing, but having done a few really good blank games, its hard to go back when you've experienced nearly blowing your ears out firing a shot, or having to frantically reload a hot cylinder in a firefight. Why do you like nerf ballistanon, always enjoy hearing other people's perspectives on this stuff.
>>10491988I think blanks are absolutely cool too, I just wanted to make that shitty pun.I like Nerf blasters best simply because of the massively lower barrier to entry. You can buy them anywhere and do an insane amount of customization on a super low skill level. Furthermore, there's only one way to "do" Nerf blasters, and a hundred different ways of firing blanks. That old Nerf blaster you bought at a yard sale five years ago will work just fine for a Nerf larp, but that old flintlock pistol replica probably won't. I think that neither airsoft nor blank-shooting replicas can make the "breakthrough" needed to standardize larps with guns, because it requires a lot of people to do a pretty expensive buy-in at the same time.On the converse, the downsides of Nerf I commonly hear are "the ranges are shit", "you have to pick darts" and "people wank over the specs of their blaster instead of larping". None of these really stand out as significant problems to me. The ranges of larp bows are shit too and nobody complains about those, dart picking just seems like a small part of the cleanup you're doing anyway, and I've never encountered blaster wankery to a bothersome degree.Blanks are cool as shit though, and look easily the best out of all three options. I'd love to see more of it and would absolutely play in it. However, at the same time I don't think they work for the standard weekend-in-a-forest larp formula. I'm afraid it would be massively hard to keep track of shots, and just devolve into the fun players dropping to the floor after the first volley while the shit players keep "miraculously not getting hit".Airsoft I just dislike because it bends too much of the event towards airsoft.
>>10489166I got some tripods. Bitches love tripods
>>10491999oh god, more tripfags
>>10492000Damn right. Excuse me who were you again?
>>10491999>>10492002reminds me of the pseudo ballista I made for science class in high school. Pretty good.
>>10491999>>10492002Today I found out I'm a bitch. Post more please.
>>10492002I'm anonAlso, as long as we're posting war machine gearThis baby is finally starting to take shape
>>10492000Its an older tripfag. Hasnt done anything worthwile though.
>>10492027Too busy larping. I am graciously blessing you with my presence only because covid is about to shut everything down again.
>>10492182In other news I must wholeheartedly support making simple reuseable tank trap style baricades. 2-3 $ a piece(depends on price of wood) Very easy to assemble and dissasemble. Once you dismantle them they take fairly little space for storage. The results were quite satisfying, I should have made some years ago.
does anyone else have instas where they post their progress/costumes like Jeff? I don't do larping but I'm interested in this stuff
>>10491994I agree with you on all points there. I have a blank revolver for the Western game I do, and it set me back 300 quid, plus whatever I burn through in ammo an event, normally another tenner odd. While I went for the higher end, and know people with blank firers that go for more like a hundred, the low buy in with nerf is a strong draw, especially for bigger larps. The main problem for me with nerf is the total lack of immersion that comes from firing one of those things, but if you can get over that to be honest go for it.I totally agree with the airsoft thing as well. One of my most attended larp organisers has a 80s scifi event which is airsoft, which is meant to be full fire from the hip, Aliens gungho marines, but just ends up with players hugging cover and popping crew with no danger whatsover, seems to attract a less fun crowd.You'd be surprised with how well blanks can work, but only really in rules lite systems. Having crewed blank games, you quickly figure out which players to ham up shooting at and which to essentially ignore because they just walk through your shots unscathed, at least until you manage to get close without being noticed and smack them with a larp safe shovel or foam musket butt.>>10492189I'd be tempted just to leave em outside to age a bit, depending on the wood. Look good though, would work well to mark out of bounds areas as well.>>10492210Just go on instagram and look at the larp hashtag I guess. I would make one but A. I look terrible in photos and B. I find it a little bit masturbatory to spam photos of myself on social media
>>10492189That looks pretty cool, I like them. Too bad everyone in my country is way too anal about rules. Someone'd get their panties in a twist over safety concerns and they'd be banned before the end of the event.>>10492232>You'd be surprised with how well blanks can work, but only really in rules lite systems.Can you recommend any larps that have this? They're probably nowhere near me, but I can always hope.>I would make one but A. I look terrible in photos and B. I find it a little bit masturbatory to spam photos of myself on social mediaBelieve in yourself, anon! Just go for it, especially now you've hyped up your game to me.
>>10491982>>10491988How would you rule blank-firing guns though, just "all shots hit"? Blanks also seem like they make it impossible to use pistols since pistol range is so short, wouldn't a blank still risk fucking someone up (mildly, but still)?
>>10491220>Do boys who are into this stuff like to visit museums and travel, or just do costumes?Varies wildly.I just like to dress stupid and hit people, though I do travel. I'd only visit musuems for armor.
>>10491349Eh. I'm sitting in my house in half armor for... very little reason (there is some), and yet I've gotten around more than some slutty women do.Larp has a weird dichotomy of people who fit all the stereotypes and can't get laid, and people who CAN get laid and use their weird hobby to come across as even more confident/meet lots of women who mostly deal with the first group and hate them.
>>10492360I wonder if you could get away with doing wax projectiles like they used to use in the Olympic sport dueling
>>10492360From what I've heard from reenactors, its basically Is there any chance they didnt hit you? No? You're down. Were you in cover/3km away/ behind them? then it missed. But you're all missing the best alternative, band guns. Looks the part, depending how you build it, shoots a prejectile you can actually feel, range equivilent to nerf and can be fitted with caps.
>>10492429why is your shitposting so weak?1/10, see me after class.
>>10492232I'd rather not. I need them sturdy, not rotten. Paint is in order, instead of aging.>>10492295Shame. Its not as if the forest is full of safety approved trees to slam into. Same people probably wear plate armor+tower shield with no helmet and other such perversions.
>>10491846That's cool but I know Gropes isn't even on the same continental shelf. I hope he's having fun though, clownfag is based.>>10491978Never seen one around here, maybe I've just been preemptively blacklisted from them on account of my autism.>>10491847>>10491982>gunsWould you believe that I didn't even think about guns when I wrote the post? In my head it's all rapiers, sabres and cutlasses. Comes of being a fencing dork, I guess. You make a good point though, it's hard to avoid muskets in a setting with musketeers.>>10492417Ngl, this looks like it would put a fucker's eye out.
>>10492417Leaves a lot of waste in nature, just like nerf. Even if people try to pick everything up it's a lot of plastic.Using blanks can be implemented in a lot of ways. For example one of the systems I know is that players receive a diary at the start of the game.This diary gives them prompts of what they'll get to endure that day, or as optional prompts to work with. These diaries also tell you if you'll go down in a firefight that day and where you've been hit.Agency is still there that if you think you've been hit that you go down and roll with it. Victim rule is always in effect.
>>10492454You could tar them with pine tar. Its fantastic for waterproofing and it leaves a nice finish.
>>10492633Eeeeh too much work. I might consider it. I was going for the cheap option of a simple spray.
>>10492295The western game I do is called flying lead, its pretty fun. The company that runs it is potentially bringing some more blank fire games at some point as well, probably after 'rona. All my kit is sadly in storage at the moment, might try dig it out if I get a free weekend.>>10492360It's partially rule of cool, partially if someone is staring you dead in the eyes and fires, yeah you're hit, unless you're crouched in cover or something similar. All the blank guns we use are bottom venting, so aside from not shooting within like a meter of someone there's very few safety limitations. The rules lite nature of how the blanks work is one of the reasons why, when crewing, I always make sure to have some sort of melee weapon on me. Its basically expected for the crew to really ham it up and die dramatically if shot, but some players are a bit notorious for being bulletproof, so you just have to sneak up on them and whack them because its a lot harder to ignore that.
>>10493382Where did you get your bottom venting blank gun?
>>10493400There's an armourer who comes to the blank fire games, and I bought it off him. He generally brings a bunch of blanks and blank firers for sale on the first day of the event, then packs up and leaves.
Do you ever try to incorporate aspects of your garb into your daily clothes or is that way too cringe? Is there any way to be low key about it?
>>10493561only the sci-fi larp stuff because they are everyday stuff anyway
>>10488839I have got A starter sword from mytholon for 25 - 30 €, but he got some of these holes on it. Anyone knows a good idea how to hide them?
>>10493692keep it in a scabbard or don't look at it. Anyone who gives shit about it is a retard anyway
>>10493561My post apoc kit also happens to be my hiking kit with a bunch of extra shit thrown on, so yeah, I guess so. My western kit also has jeans, which are just my regular jeans, so that as well.
>>10488839gas masks are nice against the smell of farts but they aren’t really larp
>>10493561I know a few people that have pretty much stopped wearing modern pants entirely and switched to wearing those viking pants every larper seems to have. Some re-enactors even have the habit of going out in full soft kit, because those are generally tailor-made and thus fit much better than normal modern clothes.If you don't mind drawing looks, wear whatever you damn well please. If you do, just incorporate some modern clothes into the outfit too and you'll probably just end up looking like a run-of-the-mill hipster or hippie.
>>10493561I use my coin pouch IRL. It draws the occasional "Oh so cool!" and it also works as intended. It can hold a remarkable amount of coinage.
>>10492462>put a fucker's eye out.Hasn't happened yet, plus the surface area when it hits is pretty wide, along with headshots being illegal means its pretty safe, if you're concerned you can always wear a helmet>>10492501the cost for rounds and/or materials to make them means people tend to police spent rounds, they're closer to IDV arrows than nerf rounds in that way. That system sounds good, but these are for a battlegame style larp, so it needs to be more physical
>>10493561I'd say it's too cringe. I either have to suit up on work days or I just wear sports clothes on my days off. If you want to be alternative there are some great history bounding looks though.
Does anyone know any good larp sites to rent out in bongland? Got a mate who's thinking of running something in the future but he can't find any places that aren't dummy expensive.
>>10493561Cringe. Taking lessons from your kit is fine, though. My next winter coat will be something that actually fits me with a real collar.The modern fashion of loose clothes that hide the form is retarded.
>>10494006>If you don't mind drawing looks, wear whatever you damn well please.This. I wear a kilt and waistcoat regularly, and it makes me happy. And if someone says 'why are you wearing that' just hit them with 'why are you wearing *that*'
>>10494409Help, I'm in the IT basement and I don't know how to get out.
>>10494572worse: barista at basedbucks
>>10493793Do you have pics of the post apoc kit?
>>10493561I have a poncho made from an IKEA blanket that I put on when I'm chilling outside during colder times.
>>10492923Thats pretty fucking gay mate.
TFW I remember people dressed in Ninja outfits wandering around the event - as actual ninjas.
>>10496832I actually saw someone play a cross-game, international assassin correctly.>dresses in normal clothes, but not in colors we quite recognize>probbaly some nobody group>carriers a sword because we all do>bad accent>that's not that odd>asks who a specific king is>fucking everyone knows who he is, that's odd>must be an idiot>wanders off and looks nervous>larp is full of pussies, so whatever>attacks the king, nearly kills him, gets put down by good samaritansFound out later that a former player had moved to Germany, brought his old character out, and annoyed someone.Crazy fucking deutsch somehow got hold of someone in the US and put a hit out on the expats king.
>>10488839Alright larp general.Let's discuss it:Why the fuck do larpers love buying bad armor? Why are they so averse to shopping around, or asking the various armored combat leagues about armor or... doing anything intelligent?Given how low the average age seems to be, there's no way people don't know how to use google.
>>10496891>Why the fuck do larpers love buying bad armor?I'm not going to pretend to know a general answer, but I know a few reasons from personal stories.One is second-hand (bulk) buying. You take what you get, and since larpers love buying bad armour what you get is bad armour. That, and even good armour fits its second owner worse. The second is literally not knowing any larp suppliers other than Mytholon, and stubbornly refusing any offers of advice. Closely ties in with the whole "not even knowing larp armour is bad" thing. Having said that, it takes a little bit of networking to find a good armourer, and not all larpers (especially new ones) can do that.The third was a general hatred for all things re-enactment. Also the thought that re-enactment is a much more expensive hobby than larp, and therefore re-enactment quality armour must cost much more than larp armour. Not necessarily true, but the anti re-enactment fanatics hardly listen to reason.Fourth is a "don't buy it before you've tried it on" policy. Since shitty armour is overrepresented on larps and festivals, that's what they'll end up trying on and therefore buying. That, and custom armour obviously can't be tried on before buying it.So I think between second-hand buying, not knowing other options, a disdain of re-enactment, and people wanting to try on stuff before buying it, plenty of bad armours get bought.
>>10495186Here it is. Going to add some sort of crap greatcoat before the next event to give myself more layers/ make my kit look a bit less military. Also because starting with something fairly basic and then dumping additional crap on it as events go on makes sense to me, rather than appearing straight into the post apocalypse looking like youve been dressing from the wasteland raider's fashion catalogue right off the bat.>>10496888I really hope this story is true, because that's fucking hilarious. Germans man, they can hold a grudge.>>10496891I think its mainly because larpers don't need proper "actual" armour, so buy cheap crap off the shelf stuff. Also, as someone who has done this, getting second hand stuff from reenactors or other larpers etc which doesnt quite fit is commonish, as its cheap, but as armour really should be custom fit, and thus expensive as hell, it'll always look at least a little jank. On top of that people just not fucking knowing better in the community, and lots of larpers buying stuff online rather than in person, so they can't actually try before they buy to make sure it fits their body shape etc.
>>10496973The story is 100% true as I understand it. Eyewitness, though I didn't catch what was going on at the time. >armour really should be custom fit, and thus expensive as hellThat's the thing though:It isn't. I can get custom fit torso armor for cheaper than equivalent mass produced pieces from common larp vendors. Limbs are a little harder to source well, but even then, the price difference isn't usually significant unless you want something like full greaves.>>10496936>wantign to try stuff onYou've made me realize I should make sure I don't tell people to do that. They don't know enough for it to do anything besides give false confidence.my go-to is to tell people to do a full chloe ting routine in it, and if they can't, sell it and try again.Part of what has me confused is people just.... rejecting better information unless I present it in person and physically show them things. They'll ask for advice and STILL buy questionable armor over facebook or whatever platform they're asking on. In person I can usually steer them clear of the worst shit at least.
>>10496990Mind linking some custom places for those prices then boss? At least here in bongland, custom armour is veeeery expensive, and even the cheaper end of custom fit can be double the price of some indian crap or mythalon.
>>10496993>https://forgeofsvan.com/product-category/shop/body/?orderby=priceThe corrazinas, basic plate curiass, and low end brigs are actually cheaper than Epic equivalents, and cheaper than myhtolon breastplates from what i've seen. They usually remain cheaper with custom sizing, and in some cases, custom sizing plus extra options.They've also got some budget leg options, and even some arms And that's all for 1.5mm steel, so it'll hold up just fine. I bought my torso armor through them. Good service, very responsive, fits perfect (I tested the fuck out of it), two months from ordering to arrival, even with early rona panic fucking shipping everywhere. Probably a lot faster if I was in europe.They take comissions for custom shit too.
>>10496483You sound elvish good sir. Quantity has a quality of its own, especially when it comes to props. ESPECIALLY stuff that is likely to get smashed by overeager fighters. Better to keep those cheap and easy to replace.
>>10497000I like forge of Svan, but a breastplate from them is like 200 bob, compared to going to larpinn or wherever and getting one for 60 quid. I've got a mate getting a full brig setup from them, and its costing him a fair whack all in all. You pay for what you get, but a lot of new larpers in particular dont want to drop that money on a hobby they might not like, thus, buying shit armour, then will just use that forever.
>>10488839Hey larpthread, let's do a little thought exercise.Suppose someone sends you this picture. He's planning on buying this suit of Mytholon armour, together with a Mytholon gambeson to go underneath it. His goal is to look like a bulky heroic warrior in full plate armour. Total cost, ~€600,- . For that same budget, what do you recommend them to get instead? Assume all items must be available from webshops and must be shipped internationally.
>>10497237>For that same budget, what do you recommend them to get instead?Ice cream. 600 euro worth of ice cream. I can guarantee the guy will have a way better time with that much ice cream than with that armor
>>10497239NAYRT but kekked at this, you're not wrong
>>10497237Bulky knight on a low budget? Flat ring maille from Mytho, custom thick padded gloves, Maciejowski gambeson, hood and a Norman 13th century with fake gold inlay.Looks like a million times better knight with a good surcoat. Buying that plate armour will make you look like the Mall Cop of the 15th century.
>>10497237Probably the classic of riveted chain, for around 300 quid for a nice set, then a gorget and pauldrons, plus a fancy tabard, greaves/upper leg protection or full chain legs, and if you have money left over get a helmet as well. Will look better, last longer, have that sweet custom tabard look, and the pauldrons/ gorget give the big plate shoulder appearance that nerds loooove.
>>10497181Sure, but the "breastplate" form svan is a full curiass, vs "we'll sell you a fine indian made breastplate from epic armory with a leather back, inherently bad design, and questionable coverage that won't fit". Like to like they're actually cheaper fairly often.>>10497237>Assume all items must be available from webshops and must be shipped internationally.I'd call him a retard and then probably hit them when I next see them. Sometimes you have to beat the stupid out.Then i'd demonstrate how I can move in my armor vs my buddy in his bad armor.After that?Send him here if he's large enough to fit into their shit and desperately wants to buy off the shelf garbage. http://www.stahlgilde.com/larp-armor/armor%20setAlternative:Tell him once to quit being retarded. If he ignores me, wait until he has his armor and stab him in that very large gap over and over until he cries.tl;drgear bullying works, apply it
>>10497289Available from webshops does not necessarily mean off the shelf garbage. For example, Forge of Svan has a webshop, and their stuff is (usually) made to size. My point is that contacting an armourer that doesn't have a webstore with a way to browse different options is a pretty high barrier to a new larper. Especially to one that doesn't have a solid idea of what he wants yet.
>>10497314Then tell him to research. Look at historical examples and whatever style artwork he likes and find a design that works for him, then look for that style in real kit. Only looking at off the shelf stuff will narrow your view of whats possible and you'll end up with shit armour you regret buying. Then you'll either sell it for pennies and buy the armour you actually want, or you'll quit playing.Also show him this video that explains why most larp plate is garbage:https://youtu.be/1vTlDHm4boQ
>>10497289So, if you're brand new to Larp or armour in general, and look at these two similar armours, you're probably going to buy the one on the right. And this was just getting similar armours, the full cuirasses from forge become even more expensive then relatively similar armour from other places. Its pay for what you get, but when you're new, or don't really care about function vs form, then you're probably going to go for the right.
>>10497394lets not forget for a standard larper that will use it ~20 days per year at best the armour and it's more important to FEEL like he is a knight rather then actually look like an authentic one (especially that his peers know very little about authenticity)...Well... I can understand why people go for the cheap stuff. It's simply way more cost effective for their needs.
>>10497314I actually misread "international" as "immediate"IE, they have shit warehoused. On that budget? Tell him full armor isn't necessarily realistic and then help him select from Svan and- maybe- stahgilde. Depends on what he has for friends/tools that can cut limbs and resize them*. If not, we're going to have a talk about improving kit over time and the importance of buy once cry once.*I bought extremely cheap greaves/a bracer through stahlgilde, but I can resize shit once I have it, to a point, so ~128 usd for my right forearm, back of the hand/thumb, shins, and articulated poleyns with wings is cheap enough for me to risk it.Worse case, I don't get them to work the way I want and I shoot them at my buddies range. Best case, I figure out how to make them work and I can help people source some exceptionally cheap gear that's actually nice looking. >>10497394The issue with that is the number of people I know who've seen their friend struggle to do shit like sit down. Or get steel jammed into their throat when they kneel, or can't really fight because the armor impedes their arms....It's poor behavior, and I struggle to understand it. Larping isn't a hobby you can cheap out on and not suffer down the road.
So guys, I'm hitting up Empire (UK) with a group of people from across both ponds. Any tips on what to do and what not? We're joining Dawn.
>>10497465Forge of Svan really doesn't have a good reputation when it comes to quality and fit.
>>10488839Hey guys, two questions.If you have a rectangular or oblong shield with a central grip, do you prefer a vertical or a horizontal grip?If you make a lamellar armour out of metal plates, is tearing up weapons on the edges of plates often an issue? Is it worth hemming the edges of each row with (p)leather in the interest of being considerate?
>>10497682Farb is reenactment slang for something that is bad quality, inaccurate, and such.>>10497681Horizontal is absolutely the superior choice for large shields. The edges of lamellar plates should be smooth.
>>10497684How smooth is smooth? If I get a batch of plates cut out of sheet metal by laser, essentially providing me with a straight 90° cut as opposed to a punched plate that has a jagged edge, do I need to run a file over the edges to smooth it down?
>>10497653Empirefag here, what areas of the game are you interested in? For general advice, I really recommend turning up on the Thursday to OC booze, lets you meet loads of people and its always a good time. For IC stuff, Dawn's a really solid nation, it's where I'm currently playing, but it has a problem with smaller/newer groups basically being sucked into the orbits of a few bigger houses, so try avoid that if possible. Also, if you're planning on fighting, bring a neck cover like a snude or something, as well as gloves, means when you're orcing you don't have to fucking plaster your entire body in snazz to match whatever mask you get. >>10497681Just metal is fine, but run it by the classic "brush your palms over it" test. If you can feel sharp edges or something other than smoothness, attack it with a file.
>>10497697>>10497684Thanks guys, will keep it in mind
>>10497697Mainly in how to get stuck in the orbit of a several houses haha. We'll be playing a non-house bound Knightly Order.My main fear is that, just like with most LARPs it takes an event to get used to everything, get to know people, etc before you can burst into actually LARPing at a good pace.So we're trying to slowly rev up the Discord/Facebook so we can get some traction and cover some face before starting. I'm not afraid of reaching out to one of the Houses: But I'm above all a bit worried I might reach out to the wrong one and saddle my boys up with a bag of cringe for the rest of the event haha.It's good tips on the orc part by the way! I must say, I was a little surprised by the orc rule. But all in all I'm super impressed compared to (EE/CoM/DF) other events how much thought there's been put into the lore and rules without them feeling too bloated. It's a good take on gamist design. It's really praiseworthy!
>>10497681>>10497690I'd just edge them anyway. Do it well, match or contrast your colors with the rest of the kit, and you'll make your armor and kit look better overall.
>>10497672Details, please. The stuff I have works well, but i'd rather know now if there's an issue and not find out when I order more shit.
>>10497690>>10497814Don't edge them, its a massive amount of extra work. Its easier to just use a file on them and make sure that they won't cut or damage shit.If you want contrast, use colourful lacing, or if you do a lamello-laminar kind of deal, you can edge the bigger parts.
>>10497815Just the basic stuff, gaps between plates on the corrazina, plates digging into the skin, really dubious shipping and production times.
>>10497881>>10497690Ignor eme and go with that anon. You'll get better results with colored lacing than you will with edging unless you're going to put a stupid amount of leatherwork in.>>10497885Eh. They have a model without gaps. Corners of the breastplate do dig a little near the collarbone, but wearing anything thicker than my tshirt seems to alleviate it. A proper gambeson would probably eliminate it entirely. IS there anyone working for a comparable price without these issues?
>>10497896>IS there anyone working for a comparable price without these issues?NAYRT, but I remember reading Tobias Capwell or someone similarly knowledgeable saying there are only two or three armorsmiths working today who actually understand how to put together an authentic suit and fit it to the intended wearer (and naturally, they charge on the very high end).
>>10497901There are far more than three, however there are very few people who could be considered "grandmasters" of armouring. Like Rober McPherson.
>>10497682you'll hear it as a corruption of 'far be it from me, (to correct error X)'. Or at least, thats the story.
>>10497881>>10497896Thanks for the tips. Next question, I know lacquering was done to lamellar in China, that or burnished. Was either of those done in the west, or is that really only if I want to go sinaboo?
>>10498082Eh, depends on your context of "The West"? Lamellar was an inherently eastern thing in the basis, the Birka finds and the likes are still considered to be from trading rather than production or commonplace.
>>10498109I was thinking everything west of the Black Sea, in that context. I was under the impression that lamellar was fairly common in the Balkans etc.
>>10497690a 90 degree angle is still sharp enough to fuck foam weapons, so I'd round off the edges just in case
>>10498114Ah yeah, I'm as western-European centric as can be. So thanks to Stalin I don't think of the Balkan as "The West".Not too at home the Balkans untill stuff like the Zaporozhian cossacks start becoming a problem further north. But AFAIK it's legit for there.
>>10498114>>10498082I won't comment on the historical practice, but if you want people to look at your kit and NOT think "oh look Asian stuff"Don't lacquer it.
>>10497745Oh sweet. If your worry is getting to know people quickly so you can hit the ground running, I really recommend turning up thursday night and chilling. So, house wise the key big ones off the top of my head are the Orzels, Vexilles, Beaumonts, De Gauvain, and maybe the tallstags. The Orzels have one or two lovely people, but kinda do fuck all and think they're hot shit, the Vexilles have some real assholes but also some really nice dudes, but generally don't interact much with new players, the Beaumonts and Gauvain lot are alright, and the Tallstags are really good lads if you share a similar ethos to them, but I know some people describe them as jocky (those people are wrong, but hey ho, it's mainly because they're just a bunch of in shape dudes). Honestly I wouldn't worry about it, if you end up hanging out with a group and they're total knob-jockeys just leave and go hang out with some other people, its not a big deal, and hell, its what I did my first event.What surprised you about the orc rule? I'm guessing your talking about monster one battle play one battle. It means you can get real numbers for opfor, rather than 30 skirmish crew. Honestly Empire's my favourite system, the rules and the lore make the most of Larp's inbuilt limitations while doing some really interesting things. Stuff like the lineage system means that you get different "races" without having 7 foot dwarves wandering around.
>>10498082Lacquering was almost completely just a japanese thing, the chinese just used ordinary lamellar.>>10498122Very few, if any, lamellar plates have 90 degree corners.
>>10498286>some people describe them as jocky (those people are wrong, but hey ho, it's mainly because they're just a bunch of in shape dudesLarpers hating people for the crimes of not being lazy, ineffectual nerds?Shit, next you'll tell me that people don't like them because they win too many fights.
>>10498292I was talking about the edges, not corners. anon said he laser cut his plates which gives a 90 degree edge, which I said should prob be rounded off because foam tears if you look at it hard enough
>>10498292>Lacquering was almost completely just a japanese thing, the chinese just used ordinary lamellar.>Han dynasty (206 BC–220 AD)>Han dynasty armour was largely the same as the Qin dynasty with minor variations. Infantry wore suits of lacquered rawhide, hardened and lacquered leather [or partially tanned rawhide?], or iron [or iron alloys such as steel] lamellar armour and caps or iron helmets. A suit of iron armour dating to the Western Han period consisted of 328 lamellae pieces.>Jin dynasty and the Sixteen Kingdoms (265–439) >The armor was made of lamellar plate, but one cannot say whether of iron or of lacquered leather. The bardings almost completely cover the horse and include a chanfron of distinctive shape.”>Northern and Southern dynasties (420–589)The imperial guards of the Jurchen Jin dynasty have been described wearing banded armour. The left guards wore blue banded armour and held yellow dragon flags while the right guards wore red banded armour and held red dragon flags.For these periods, at least, the Chinese are known to have lacquered their armor.Sentence structure is a bit ambivalent about whether they just lacquered their leather or the metal as well, but since depictions show the unlacquered metal of their weapons as white, silver and gray, it stands to reason that the bright colors on the armor were the colors of the metal proper and not the cloth, leather and lacing. Note that these are also quite different from the depictions of the later highly colorful brigandines of the Chinesehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_armour
>>10498461I would laugh at you for being a glaze nerd, but thats pretty cool ngl
>>10498296That's the name of the game. My philosophy is if you aren't hitting the field at mach 5 what's the point, and to do that some level of fitness is necessary. Its a physical game for god's sake, for me being able to outpace the average nerd is as important, if not more important, than my kit.
>>10498641If I can't run down "mages" who are in street clothes with one shitty piece of garb thrown over it while i'm in full armor.......why even bother living? Plus, hearing those same people bitch and moan SPECIFICALLY because my guys work out is fucking hilarious. Gets even better when people point out that they don't work out to fight better, they do it because they're adults over 30 and it's a good idea. And that they were shitting on them for a decade before they started working out.But seriously, it's fucking great being able to fight all day, watch everyone else slow down and start fighting badly because they're exhausted, And then tear their lines apart because you're not even feeling any strain.
>>10498461Thank you anon, bless
>>10498286We're kind of hoping to get stuck in between some nice bits of politics. I'm still trying to find out which of the houses would be best for to get into that whole schtick. I didn't assume Empire was too big on the nordic style emotional involvement but I'm trying to find some middleground group for that haha. I already talked with a priest and the contact person for the Beaumonts. Was a nice guy and albeit short enjoyed talking to him. Already set up a bit of a gig for the next event. So we're gonna see what comes from it.Tallstags I think I saw one of their kit pics. They look okay, not sure if I'd call them specifically in-shape, or well, more like a football team rather than my rugby team. But we can roll with the boys, that's not a problem. Although fun it's not the experience I'm looking for. But I'm sure we can vibe with them.On the orc rule, yeah, it's new to me. For big battle LARPs we're with the Untotes Fleisch at CoM. So I'm used to NPCing as an army. Otherwise DF is decent at just letting players go at it on each other. :PBut yeah, I like Empire's rule system. It's quite foreign to me by design though. It feels very old-school in it's design but at the same time refreshing in the way it's old school.Like a niche we never got to exploring if you feel me?You on the Empire Discord by any chance?
>>10498711It's a real nice one, one of the main reasons I'm spending this year long Larp drought to just hit the gym, got to keep in shape to smash lines.>>10498796The thing about politics in Dawn is it's hard to wiggle your way into, even more so than some of the other nations. Senate wise, two of Dawn's three regions have been exclusively in the hands of either the Orzels or De rondells for the game's entire run time, and the last one seems like it's likewise going to remain with the de Coeurdefer's for a while. If you want to get in on the ground with people trying to wrestle control of senate stuff, Deveraux, Carsene and Tallstag are all good picks for people to talk to, or having a chat with any of the Senators' seconds. As the Imperial Election is coming up, talking to any of the big candidates might be a shout to really throw yourself into politics, for Dawn that's one of the Vexilles. I'm not the guy to give spot on suggestions though, I mainly just do skirmishing and assorted legwork for more "important" people who need muscle/ a charming grin/ minor political hobnobbing. Oh nice, saw a kit pic of the undead dudes at CoM, look like a neat faction. Got any kit pics? I'm on the discord, haven't used it a huge amount recently though. If you post something semi-obvious I can chuck you a pm, but seeing as I have just spent my last post slagging off two houses on an anonymous mercian helmet crafting forum, I'm slightly hesitant to just slap my deets up here.
>>10498711Been called ableist yet? I would be suprised if you haven't been. Many larpers, specifically women, seem to love virtue signalling and bitching about injustices that don't exist.
>>10498812My CoM kit is pic related. And yeah, my tag on the Discord is "Guillaume'' the only in Dawn so far. Hmu.
What is the best way to start larping?
>>10498819Nice kit dude, especially like the kettle helm, did you paint it yourself? I'll sling you a message on discord in a bit, just finishing some work.>>10498866Find a local larp or a big fest thats close enough, read their brief, chat with some people who go, make some basic kit and then go. Without knowing specifics its harder to go more precise than that.
>>10498818No. I make a point of being polite, humble, and training anyone who's even vaguely willing to listen. And i'm a manlet, so i don't LOOK like I have a massive psychical advantage. Makes it hard for people to get that bitter.Plus, women won't start that shit if they want to fuck you.
>>10498866Fine one and go. Better, find a practice and go.
>>10497681>>10497681>If you have a rectangular or oblong shield with a central grip, do you prefer a vertical or a horizontal grip?Vertical grip, but I use a system that holds the shield at near full arm extension from the body to maximize the area of coverage, while allowing me to control the range (Di Grassi). If it was a horizontal grip, a strike to the top or bottom would “table” the shield, and expose me. Horizontal works better for larger shields like full pavaise and scutum that have the mass to hold them down.>>10497682As >>10497937 and >>10497684 say.
>>10499236>Horizontal works better for larger shields like full pavaisefull pavaise most of the time use a combination of horizontal and vertical grips though, and sometimes diagonal but that's kind of an exception
>>10488839What diameter (in cm) does a back quiver needs, to get space for 8-10 Flat Head Arrows?
>>10497681verticalfor door shields, with a strap and vertical set up directly beneath it. Strap for sitting in position like a dumbass, single vertical for fucking the opposing door shields to death and punishing their spears for trying to break my nose. Horizontal contrl isn't as important when locked in a a wall, you stabilize each other, and if you're smart, once you're crouched you can brace the gaps with your body very easily. When standing with a shield meant for a single person, it's fairly easy to mitigate hits turn your sides. Vertical not so much.
>>10499236>>10499237So you’re basically using it like a giant buckler? How big is your shield?
>>10499397NTA, but I have a 4' tall kite shield that's 2' across at the top, and I use it the same way. Standard position is to hold my elbow bent just enough to be comfortable, and then extend or retract the shield as needed. I'll straighten my arm entirely when moving aggressively so I can blind someone or get control of their weapon. That's actually the ideal way for a fight to play out.
>>10499237>>10499236Thanks Gropes. How is your shield constructed? Does it have layers or is it just a sheet of plywood, metal/plastic/leather top layer, etc? About how heavy is it?
>>10488839Bought myself a bit of I-don't-know-what-this-is-called-in-English (trim?) to put on the edge of my hat today!And then pretty much immediately got a message that the store I ordered the hat from doesn't have said in stock after all. Anyone know another place that sells floppy wide-brimmed felt hats with affordable European shipping?
>>10499863You can try Ritterladen, they have several hats in stock, you may find what you're looking for. Ordered 2 helmets from them, never had any issue.
>>10499888Thanks for the advice, they seem to sell the same or a pretty close hat! However, I just found out that the original store also sells a tricorn that's literally just the same hat but with three stitches through it, so I'll just go and buy that one. Although there's a €1,- markup for the stitches I'll end up undoing, it's still slighty cheaper after shipping.
Anyone got a hunter quiver like this and can tell me if its worth the price for a first time quiver? How many flat head arrows can i fit in it?
>>10500295it can probably fit a dozen or two, and it's worth the price if it's less then euro, because holy fuck, it is put together in some ugly way that is structurally questionable.
>>10500298>it is put together in some ugly way that is structurally questionableSo bad? How exacly do you mean that?
>>10499863>I-don't-know-what-this-is-called-in-EnglishLace trim, yeah.
>>10500318Not to speak for him, but chunky-ass saddle stitch with latigo lace, cheap looking leather in a chemical brown stain, “antiqued brass” pot metal buckle, puckering at the seams, and unfinished edges. Looks super cheap and shitty.Also, the “few dozen” arrows he mentions are real arrows. You might be able to fit one or two larp arrows in that thing
>>10499646I have a couple of different shields for a couple of different purposes. My old oval, which I almost never use anymore, is about 36 1/2 inches tall, by 22 inches wide, made of T6 aircraft aluminum, with a steel boss. I have long ago switched over to my hand pavaise, which is made of steel, and is 32 inches tall at the center point, and 20 inches wide. I also have a birch hand pavaise of near identical dimensions.Pardon that its all beaten up and needs to be painted
>>10501402Where did you get your steel shield?
Did anyone here have/made a "mask" like this and can tell me how to creat one?
>>10502709No goddamn clue. It was actually a Christmas gift from a friend years ago.>>10502712It’s honestly probably just either a simple tube, or long rectangle, tied or cinched in the back
>>10502709Since Gropey can't help, and I feel like drawing something stupid.Take pic related to a metalworks that cuts and bends sheet metal, and they should be able to get you the body.This is the approximate size of Gropey's shield, and the eyeballed shape. All in millimeters. Top right is the flat pattern, outside measurements is the contour, inside measurements are the bend lines and hole placement. The holes are cleared for a metric M8 bolt, which might be a little over engineered, but eh. Bottom left are bend instructions.Keep in mind that at 2mm thickness, that thing will weigh about 6.2kg in stainless steel. Get it in aluminium and it'll be about 2.1kg. Make it 3mm and you're looking at respectively 9.4kg and 3.15kg.
>>10502881Just FYI, mine tapers slightly to the bottom. I can get you exact measurements in the morning.
>>10502881>Keep in mind that at 2mm thickness, that thing will weigh about 6.2kg in stainless steelAlso, spring stainless in 14g/2mm, so i’d plave it about 12 pounds, which is nothing as far as a steel shield goes,
>>10502893>I can get you exact measurements in the morning.Would be p. kewl>>10502896I've never actually tried a full on steel shield, it seemed a bit redundant in LARP.Out of curiosity, though, is a 30lbs steel tower shield still wieldy, or is that a bad idea? That's at about 47x23 inches
>>10501402>>10502881Thats pretty badass. Seeing a real shield compared to larp pillows is cool as hell.
>>1050293722.5” at the top, 18” at the bottom. 12.2 pounds. 14 gauge in American sheet measurement. Modern handle of wood and two aluminum strips, riveted in with .5” steel rivets until I forge a proper handle. Both sides faced with heavy weight cotton canvas, and gessoed. Edged in Trimlok for modern rule requirements to reduce the edges chewing through batons.
>>10489166Epic armouryLiteral trash Id rather use a pakistani bear trap than their RFB garbage
>>10500295I have this Quiver. 8 Larp and a bunch of normal Arrows fits in it. The only "problem" i have is, that im not sure if black is the right color for a larp quiver. Maybe i should send it back and get a brown one?
>>10505380Depends on the rest of your kit desu anon. Its hard to tell from just a one off bit of costume whether it would work overall.
>>10505380> 8 LarpWhat kind of heads?
>>10505732I want to creat a Ranger Kit with eather> Dark Brown Cloak> Olive Green Cloak> Brown Pants> Black Tunic>>10505789Flat Head Arrow Heads. I could take a picture of it tomorrow. Maybe i can fit one more in it.
>>10505380>ArrowsHave you gotten these arrows checked with the organizers of your local larp? I'm assuming you're using re-enactment flatheads, and those are not allowed at larps in most countries. If you have and they are allowed, where are you from?>LeatherThe rule of thumb I've been taught for larp costumes is "don't mix brown and black leather", but either one is fine individually.
>>10505789>>10505941Germany - I checked in the Forum before i got some, which ones ok and which not. Round Heads are not ok. There where some bad accidents with them.Self Mades are problematic.Screw One are ok, but should be checked often.Normal IDV Flatheads are perfect.
>>10506159Ah, I got confused from the previous pic. I thought you meant the arrows you had in the quiver there were your larp arrows, which didn't exactly leave a lot of space for the arrowheads. No, those are fine.Bit of a side note, but I once read a fairly large dissemination of how flatheaded arrows are actually less safe than the round heads, but I don't know how accurate it was. It was on the website of a maker of round arrows, after all. Still, I'm wont to believe the whole "round arrows can slip into your eye socket" story is just an urban legend.
>>10506181Thats funny. Everyone i talked about what Arrow Heads are ok, told me that all of the organizers they met so far, banned Roundheads from there event. I only know that Roundheads fly farther then Flatheads
>>10506181>>10506229a few years ago some people in the US did some "research" and """"testing"""" and come up with the idea that all IDV arrows are basically worse than a murder rapist because they are usually bounce back more often then their shitty home made arrows and then the nock can hurt someone or something.Some other people then are on a crusade against carbonfiber arrow shaft because it's literally worse then Hitler as when it breaks (from breathing on it too hard or by someone farting in the general direction, depending on who you ask) will not only mutilate you, it will also kill a few thousand jews.Then another kind of recent trend this flat vs round heads and the argument is basically falt heads absorb more force so it will cause less pain and less bounciness so it's safer, and the roundheads are like Covid-22-Ultra or something.My personal experience is that I got shot in the face way too many times with various larp arrws, larpsafe and not that safe too, and as long as it is an IDV arrowhead it's not much of a problem. But as always mileage may vary, and some organizers come up with retarded rules regardless because it seems like a good idea at the time
>>10506237Sounds like my Football experience in School.> Get Ball in the Face> It hurts> Change Ball> Still hurts when getting it in the face
>>10506159OH. They fit when you put them nock first.Thats weird but ok.
>>10506583Is nock first not standard for larp arrows? Thats how everyone at my game uses a quiver, you'd barely fit 2 head first.
>>10506745I don’t think I’ve ever actually seen a large Parcher use a quiver for anything other than costume. Functional areas are typically carried head-down in a belt mounted arrow bag in my experience. More over, many games in the US have started phasing out traditional fletchings with pic related, which still allows the arrow to fly decently (for larp), but reduces threat of penetration if you fall on the non padded end.
>>10506805God I hate those things. A few years ago my battle game made those mandatory and we lost 90% of all the archers in our region because they couldn’t get them.
>>10506745At my games most full time archers arent the classic elves but rather histofags. They usually have wicker baskets on their back with 20 something arrows.
>>10507061We’ve used them in the SCA for about two decades, but we also use smaller, rubber blunts and higher poundage bows since everyone wears a helmet. So there is a trade off.>>10507173I love my basket pack in general.
>>10504878But... it's ready for battle.>>10506237Our faggots LOOK for excuses to claim something is unsafe.We managed to reduce the mass of our weapons to ~1/3rd of what they were, with cheaper, more available materials, that would be less dangerous when broken. And louder, so fewer stealth breaks. At the time, I routinely got 8' spears to the face, or had people ACTIVELY try to inflict injuries on me with them. I got used as a test dummy for new shit. Liked them. We started using them. They were tits. Less injuries- turns out a club with no fucking mass doesn't hurt. Motherfuckers started trying to tell us that because they're faster, they're goign to hit with even more force than shit three times the weight. And, of course, there's NO WAY that them being much more controllable, and shots thus much easier to pull, matters. And of course, whip is a good thing. You WANT weapons to do things that render it harder to control them at the moment of impact, anon.Nerds are the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet, and it is my goal to replace them with dudebros and gym rats at larp. Fuckers will probably wear better garb, too.
Happy turkey and genocide day LARPthread.May those that are working avoid the plague.
>>10507746Happy thanksgiving Gropes, and to all you other brave American loyalists, who refuse to accept the ravages of democracy.t. Bong who doesn't really care that much as there aren't any larp stores here doing black Friday sales of anything that great.
>>10506805Wait, what the fuck are those exacly? It looks weird and hurtfull?
>>10505380>>10506159I finally decided to buy the Brown one too, to compare it with the black one. The Material is a big stiffer then the other one and its "darker" than on the picture. Now i need coat and im not sure if im capable to craft one. I only crochet a scarf so far. Any tipps on how not to fuck it up?
>>10507908You too>>10508292They are the opposite of hurtful. The point is that they cant stab through you on either end.
>>10508365they look pretty weird. i cant imagine to shoot with them
>>10508556>they look pretty weird. i cant imagine to shoot with themThey probably say the exact same thing about you when you show up to a game, but you still get to play.
So, no fucking clue if this is even the right kinda thread to post this question in, but if I went to a Dystopia Rising game, would my extensive collection of Milsurp gear be sufficient for garb?
>>10510753All types of larp, historic reenactment periods, and historic martial arts are covered here. You’re in the right place.The answer is “yes, but”, with the but being that the setting substantially post-apocalypse and you’d want to modify the stuff to look a bit more scavenged/modified. Think Fallout/Road Warrior.
>>10510987Then the answer is no. I'm not fucking with my NVA BDU.
>>10510989Your call sport.
>>10510989You don't need to fuck with the kit itself. It could just involve whacking a shitload of layers on top, only wearing a part of it, or whatever. Milsurp base with tyre armour and a leather jacket on top would work well without requiring you to take a knife to your /k/lothes
>>10511021Think I could merge some of my Larp kit into the Milsurp? I got chainmail, leather and Gambaeson.
>>10506805god those look retarded
>>10510989You sound like the kind of tactitard that would suck at roleplaying and not be fun anyways.
>>10511049On par for American larp.
>black friday>poke around various sites I don't like so I can laugh>buy a pair of pauldrons off of armstreet>realize they have legs that I actually really, really likeGod damn it.>>10510753>if I went to a Dystopia Rising gameWhy would you do that?
>>10511040Probably aye. Didn't really know much about dystopia rising, having just done a google search you could probably wear a binbag and look better than a lot of these clowns. Depending on how oiled up your chain is, having chain with a military jacket over the top to cover your top half could look good. If you wanted to go whole hog you could see if you can make a chainmail aventail to put on a modern military helmet, that could look good. Does depend on the chain though, blackened would look dece, but bright and shiny probably wouldn't. Ideally getting some totally battered and rusted chain would be ideal.For the leather, depends. I'm not a fan of post-apoc leather 'armour' most of the time unless you're leaning really hard into a theme or going very fallout raider. I am a metro/stalker post apoc kinda guy though, so take with a pinch of salt.
How is armstreet for fit/quality?Some of their plainer armor actually seems relatively reasonable on price.
>>10511608I've only got a gambeson from them, but it fit very well, and was of lovely quality. The problem with armstreet is they charge an arm and a leg for products you could get elsewhere for the same quality and half the price, but it assures quality rather than hoping that the slav you found on the internet knows what they are doing, so thats the tossup.
>>10511924They've got a few, select bitsthat seem reasonable. Mostly stuff like knee/elbow cops, or really simple pauldrons, but this shit:https://armstreet.com/store/armor/medieval-functional-leg-armor-3-in-1-fighting-setActually seems somewhat reasonable for the cost, especially for stainless. Really, if the fuckers would just offer more plain, unadorned kit rather than engraving everything and jacking the price up, i'd probably recommend their site to people.As is, I can't, in good conscience, tell someone to buy a breastplate with utterly non-unique engravings that'll cost twice as much as buying the same armor plain and finding someone to engrave it locally.
>>10511924The quality is reasonably worse than some random slav. Armstreet is more like Mytholon quality with better aesthetics. Most of their shit looks a lot worse in real life as well.If you want rando shelf pieces go to Ulfberth or the new MET repro collection or the likes.
>>10511608Pretty hit or miss these days. They suffer from the typical story:>Small time producer makes good stuff, cheap>People take notice and start buying>start offering larp stuff as new markets open>More demand means outsourcing and lower quality while raising prices>store become generic costume crap coasting on old reputationEarly Armstreet kit is awesome. Modern armstreet is only a few steps from truckstop collectables.
>>10514747>>10512483What specifically are the issues, if you know?Are we talking mediocre steel, or something worse like bad fitting/sharp edges? I'm primarily asking because I like that one leg set. Virtually everything else they offer is wildly overpriced, so I won't even consider it.
>>10514842Everything you can think of in random combinations.>bad proportions and shaping>bad sizing and fit>poor mechanical design and connections (hinges, rivets etc)>inconsistent alloy and thickness>bad or no heat treating>cheap looking and ugly “etching” with inconstancies (most are hot stamped or ground in via Dremel)>cheap leatherThe stuff you see on the website is the stuff that they make in the house as the example to be exported for mass production.
>>10514849Interesting. I don't suppose you know of anyone else making a relatively plain set of half-legs that can be work free float or articulate together, do you?I supposed I could message an armorer and ask them to make it, but better, if all else fails.
>>10514874Literally every bohurt vendor?
Fresh off facebook, and filled with so much butthurt comments
>>10515833The worlds largest larp/historic social club. Non-storyline driven, with a focus on mostly full contact armored combat using batons. Also filled with a lot of very self-important people.
>>10514936But won’t they be too heavy for larp?
>>10516153Bohurt armor is heavier and thicker than typical larp plate.
>>10515800>The European Larper is literally gate keeping and incredibly smug about itThat's a new reaction image
>>10516217Hell, thicker, yes, heavier I wouldn't even say. Anyway, what's wrong with it wearing armour that might weigh a bit more?It's not that because of the nature of the LARP organisors will come up to tell you your armour doesn't work because it's too heavy?
>>10516330Some claim weight restrictions in the name of “safety”
>>10516330Not him, but practicality. I'm actually specifically AVOIDING bohurt sport armor because a lot of it is thicker than historical examples. Great for sport, terrible if you're going to be running and fighting non stop for hours at a time. Past a certain point i'd actually be less effective and have less fun simply because i'd need to invest less time into breaking hinges, flanking artillery, and running down unfit fuckers with no gear/casters, and more time seeking out water. I could conceivably spend 6+ hours continously moving and fighting, with relatively little downtime. Or none, if i'm at my home game and not a larger event. Then bump it to up to 12 hours of moving around with fighting being semi-constant. >>10516272Gate keeping is going to come to the US, and I can't fucking wait. >>10515833SCA is part of the reason american larp looks like shit. They also won't accept they're larp.
>>10515930The best part is scadians whining about how people are bashing the sca. They were absolute cunts for DECADES, and now they can't handle it being thrown back at them?
>>10516860If it's about authenticity I'm not sure if bohurt kit should be avoided compared to Armstreet. In most cases that's still several levels up from it in design. On question of thickness I have to agree, if you want lightweight armour I disagree. most buhurt kit is done out of titanium these days and you can get away with some ridiciously light weight duel armours which will do more than enough to make you look fully armoured and kitted up for larp. And I hope gatekeeping is there to stay.
I've been thinking of getting a short bishops mantle, like pic related, to sit over my plate armour to add some layering. Found a place called the Medieval chainmail factor that seems to do nice stuff and is based out of Eastern Europe somewhere. Anyone know if they make good stuff?
>>10516946Titanium is entirely out of my price range from pretty much any vendor. Authtenicity isn't a major factor- I'm going for authentish at most. Not clearly fantasty, but i'm currently mixing a sallet, corrazina, and poleyns/greaves with a mail shirt and a single bracer/handplate. Plus a pair of simple pauldrons. Not exactly a historical kit.End goal is to get full legs and commission either full jack chains or half lenth ones form shoulder to elbow to go with the sallet/torso pieces I already have.Buhurt is in a weird spot for me where it's often too good for my needs. Either thick and protective, treated (and expensive) steel, or thick. All overkill for a kit that I wouldn't transfer over to steel or buhurt if I ever get into one of those hobbies.Most of my kit will probably come from buhurt vendors long term- my curiass did, and that's how i'll end up getting jack chains- it's primarily the legs I'm looking at getting through armsteet. That's if I don't just buy scyhnbalds from a buhurt vendor, though. worst case, I end up with extra kit I don't love. it gets sold, shot, repurposed, or stored to be given out to friends who need to borrow armor.>And I hope gatekeeping is there to stay.I think it is, but it'll be a slow battle. I've seen manuals for for profit, low end games that have minimum costuem requirements with actual recommendations. Not much, but a start. I'm working on a bottom up initiative in my home game to hopefully raise standards a little, but I won't be able to get it off the ground for a year or two.I'm also debating trying to redpill people on NOT buying shitty SCA garb or other shit that looks like it came from the 90s and isn't made to fit anyone right. Seeing- and wearing- shit that actually fits completely opened my eyes. I though I hated garb for years.I just hated shitty clothes.
>>10517417https://gfarmoury.com/details/32http://www.hardymanufacture.com/?fbclid=IwAR1nMSa-smiIArFs12ChSPEijGZipRBD6daLogFK2MItLOLax1mo7-eFIt4But if you want it cheaper and just looking good and feeling light you could always check out the stuff done by Marshall Historical or the likes.It ain't great. But it's cheap and works for authentic eyeing kit. https://www.celticwebmerchant.com/en/full-leg-armour.html
>>10517551You're a saint, anon. I'll definitely add these to my list.
>>10516134>>10516217>>10516330>>10516860Honestly, no. Even the cheapest steel options would be better designed and of an acceptable weight, unless you’re comparing it to something made of tin foil. If it was too heavy, it wouldn’t be useful.>>10516500We need more keepers and better gates.>>10516860>>10516862Fresh from the drama mines
Also: I have decided on prizes for a contest, but i’m still unsure of a fait contest, with the pandemic and all.Prizes are as such:/cgl/: hand stitched pilgrim’s bag/haversack/tg/: various historic european magic/folkcarft items, including>authentic witch-candle made in a 300 year old cauldron>hand made corn husk poppets>hand forged iron nails>witch marks printed on parchment/out/: adventure kit>patch knife/striking iron>flint>tow>char cloth >carry/charring tinAny suggestions
>>10517766How about best pandemic related costume? Atleast /tg/ will be able to all pull out their plague doctor kit. Most likely they won't win, but traction is traction. And in the end it's about engaging with everybody.
>>10517766Does it need to be related to /cgl/, /tg/, and /out/ at the same time?
>>10517756ah, perfect. I'll add that salt to the steak i'm cooking tonight.The polefag armorer he linked me is probably going to get it. Even if it's heavier, the price/coverage is excellent, and it can't be any worse than the overthink gutter greaves I have now. 9.5lbs for open greaves and knees. I can't find a lot of info on what that SHOULD weigh, but it seems off.>more keepers and better gates.We need more not yous who have decent armor. And I mean that in the best possible way. You're a bit of a prick at times. It's useful. But people within the community who DON'T reenact, primarily deal with larpers, and who aren't abrasive/blend well, with good armor/kit are sorely needed to bridge the gap and help people move in the right direction. Step one being not buying premade armor, step two being knowing what is/isn't dangerous.Step 3 is kicking out the fatties and skinnyfats.
>>10517766>i’m still unsure of a fait contest, with the pandemic and all.Most improved costume/kit over the year?People have had plenty of time to work.
>>10517866Not him but I think it does mostly. /cgl/ is the general and /out/ is more living history.
>>10517849Ehhh. Seeing the same three shitty pleather masks over and over doesn't sound exciting.>>10517866As >>10517891 points out, they all have very different views on the same subject, and generally a different idea of what they want as a prize. >>10517877>And I mean that in the best possible way. You're a bit of a prick at times. It's useful. But people within the community who DON'T reenact, primarily deal with larpers, and who aren't abrasive/blend well, with good armor/kit are sorely needed to bridge the gap and help people move in the right direction. Step one being not buying premade armor, step two being knowing what is/isn't dangerous.If you're basing this purely off my 4chan posts, then you must be fairly new, but whatever.>>10517879But ironically, the trend seems that people in general haven't worked on shit. Its also kinda hard to judge without knowing if someone really used the time to change their kit now, or are just BSing something they did ages ago.
>>10517879None of us have done jack shit and you know it.
>>10517930Gives everyone two weeks to work! I know all you fuckers cram shit into stupidly short timeframes anyway, so it's perfect.>>10517914Honestly, i'm mostly remembering a few older threads from the good old /tg/ larpthread days. I don't mean even the slightest insult, and will freely admit I could be entirely wrong. I'm also not expressing my thoughts well. A part of what I'm seeing is that people will freak out and scream "elitist" or just shot down if somebody who's too far above them in effort, skill, or presentation tries to help them. Someone who's objectively worse, but otherwise giving the EXACT same advice, is sometimes received better just because people don't get as defensive if htey think the person helping them is on their level, and it can shut down stupid shit like screeching about money/abelism/whatever excuse they'd otherwise use.Put another way:Larpers aren't all ready for the adult help the hobby needs yet, so their perceived peers need to get to a place where they are.
>>10518180Go reread them. Spend a decade repeating the same 10 answers and resources to 4chan, and you’d get it.Also, you can see the steady decline on /tg/ from a vibrant board culture of creative minds, to /pol/light.Its why we are here.
>>10518226Again, i'm more than willing to admit i'm wrong/misremembering. It's been a while And the willingness to help with the question I had IS appreciated, so thanks.>you can see the steady decline on /tg/ from a vibrant board culture of creative minds, to /pol/light.Don't get me fucking started. Every good board. Every single fucking one. I took a year and a half off from 4chan due to computer issues. Wasn't about to mobilepost. It was like coming home to see the forest totally clearcut, and it keeps getting worse.>Spend a decade repeating the same 10 answers and resources to 4chan, and you’d get it.I do. Different focus, but I understand the feeling of constantly trying to help the same people fix the same goddamn things.
>>10518229Im just saying man, when you hear the same excuses, same BS, on top of “I think im supposed to be sexist/racist/retarded/hate namefags because thats what we do on /v/“ you just stop caring.Here on /cgl/ its a totally different board culture, and meat space is 100% different. I still hold out for /tg/ to recover.
>>10518240Absolutely no arguments from me. Like I said, I was, at best, not expressing my thoughts well. You could be the patron saint of kindness, and we'd still need other people to start the process of unfucking larps locally purely because they'll seethe if your shit is too nice. Any excuse not to improve, any excuse to treat the person who's better than you as badly as you wish you could treat the kids who were better than you in grade school. That's not specific to you, to reenactors, or 4chan. That's just the fucking base that we have for this hobby, no matter how shit it is.>I still hold out for /tg/ to recover.Possible. Won't happen soon though.
>>10516860Not that guy, but properly made armour can actually be more comfortable than lighter bogus kit.I made the mistake of buying Epic Armoury gear (mercenary breastplate, giant warrior armor) and I ended up only wearing the set when faffing about and the breasplate alone during bossfights. It doesn't weigh shit, but it's a horrid piece.
>>10518264>giant warrior armor>pauldrons*
>>10518264Ah. Difference is I STILL won't buy premade. Made to measure is my first concern, I won't look at anything that comes in standard sizes. Also fuck epic. Even their weapons are utter trash now. Replaced their formerly good guards with lightweight, cheap foam that can't stop their own shit from blowing through it and hitting your hand with a simple wrist flick. Useless.They claim they're heaping out because it's safer. I say it's bullshit.also>mercenary breastplateOne of my friends has that. I made him wear my armor. He preferred it to the point of instantly wanting one, despite it being built for me- 2" shorter and probably 60lbs lighter. That breastplate is so fucking bad it loses to shit made for a man two weight classes lighter. I feel your pain. If you want some entry level shit that's unironically cheaper, check out forge or svan.Not the best armorer, but affordable and the service is good. Left me with zero complaints, my shit fits so well i've forgotten I had it on.
>>10517914How about make something along a certain theme? Could be kit, could be a system, could be whatever, but make the theme distinctive enough that it would be hard to just put up something you've already made/ make it so you need to show some WIP photos or whatever.
>>10518226>Also, you can see the steady decline on /tg/ from a vibrant board culture of creative minds, to /pol/light.I'm gonna level with you, I think that's just mirroring society in general. More asshurt, more witch hunts, people mixing ideology/politics into everything instead of keeping it in the house like your religion. If you haven't seen the parallel development elsewhere I feel like you just didn't visit those places.
>>10519256/pol/ is a cancer, as are entitled middleclass white kids thinking that they are oppressed by minorities and women.Sadly, thats half of /tg/ now.
Sup lads. So, I have a bit of a project of mine. I'm gathering a google drive of larp related material - crafting tutorials, theory, manuals, what have ye. Anyone have something similar or willing to contribute something?
>>10519256My stance is pretty much exactly the same as >>10519289>>10519337I am assuming you checked the archives first? I’m getting ready to scan a whole bunch of old Tournaments Illuminated magazine articles to upload that you might enjoys. TI was the official SCA magazine before the internet was realy a thing, with tons of articles and guides.
>>10519463Ofc and I already have classics like MTA and Brian Price etc.
>>10519289This. Used to be that people with shit politics were afraid to shit upnthe board because we had mods who banned the real trashbags. Now its mostly /pol/ on /tg/ whining about how they are oppressed by “jews, trannies and sjws” when in reality, Bringing their fortune behavior into real life was never acceptable.
>>10519289>>10519593I miss old /tg/. We used to get shit done.
>>10520028Reading that is like reading a timeline of /tg/ going to shit.
>>10519582Just checking>>10519593>>10519966>>10520028>>10520047Time to drink and be sad, friends.
>>10520062>Time to drink and be sad, friends.Why? things you love going to shit is pretty much a universal constant.Also everything that is made after you are 35 years old is against all natural laws
>>10520064>Also everything that is made after you are 35 years old is against all natural lawsWait... Are you older than me?
>>1051824>>10518245Completely unrelated to /cgl/, but if it makes you feel better there have been threads going on for like two weeks now on /tg/ that started as people shitposting about a mini wargame that didn't exist that now has people modeling and 3d printing ships to test out ideas for rules. We're not dead yet.
>>10520104We went over this a few years ago and yes.
Recently saw some faggot post their homemade jack chains on social media. This not not helping my strong desire to make/acquire jack chains of my own. Problem is, I already own pauldrons. Now I need to figure out out how to intergrate chains into them and have it not suck. I should have taken up metalworking.
>>10520463make the upper arm part shorter, attach it to the pauldron.Or don't change a fucking thing and put it under the pauldron. there are a shitton of options.
>>10520276Herf derf. Just looked up your Bday. Tell us about the olden days, grandpa slav!>>10520463Pic of the pauldrons?Also, pic of the dude’s home made jackchains?
I bought some bracers from Mytholon, which looked really nice. But the shit is so damn tight that i cant get push it up, so it gets on the right place. The inner side also feels like fucking Sandpaper. Is something like that normal?
>>10521571Normal for over priced garbage made in Pakistan, yes. Don’t buy armour marketed to larpers.
>>10521571>I bought [...] from MytholonHere's where you went wrong.
>>10521571I can’t seem to remember any single thread in the past five years I’ve been lurking but hasn’t mentioned at least once or twice to never buy LARP armor.
>>10520489>>10520599Excellent advice. I'm still waiting on the pauldrons in the mail, pictures whenever I get them.>>10521571>mytholonwhy?>is this normalNo. Armor should be fairly comfortable.
Merry more 2020 everybody.
>>10527694Fuck off with that, and happy new year
I want to look like a medieval anime knight/fuckboy/noble or something in betweenAny tips or reference recommendations for clothes and hair?Twink, blond, blue eyes, shoulder length hair.
>>10530808get a proper hosen and a proper doublet plus accessories and you are good to go. Do whatever you want with your hair.
>>10530808>>10530825>Proper hosen and a proper doubletThis, with the fit and waist seated properly rather than like modern pants. Also, proper shoes, possibly poullains.As for the hair, For a suitably dashing, yet militant look, I highly suggest looking into a snood/hair net.
>>10530892Don’t you live near DC? You ok clownfag?
>>10530912Im like, a three hour drive south, thankfully.
>>10530825>>10530892A bit too authentic tb h. Maybe I'm in the wrong thread but thank you :) /fa/ gave this description from a similar question which I think is almost perfect:>Pants, but not skin tight, make them looser and a little bunchy like this. Long shirts that end at your thighs. Long sleeves. No short sleeves ever. Make sure your shirt has a fancy collar. Nice brown shoes. Detailing on the shirt. Muliple layers of shirts. At least two if not three.But yeah maybe it's more fantasy instead of history.
>>10531042Uhhh... is the 15thC not twinky enough for you?
>>10531042Reading this sounds more like you want to be a renaissance fuckboi.Also:>Long shirts that end at your thighs. Long sleeves. No short sleeves ever. Make sure your shirt has a fancy collar. Muliple layers of shirts. At least two if not three.Shirts are underwear.
>>10531042If you want Ye Olde Medieval fuckboy you're going to wear tight pants. Simple as. That description just sounds like some dude who thinks black is a full palette who's describing his modern Weeb inspired wardrobe.
>>10531042>not wanting to wear tight hosenwhy?
>>10531158>>10531165Was just ignorant about history. Supposed to look attractive to a decent chunk of normies too. >sounds more like you want to be a renaissance fuckboiYeah that too :)>>10531248Oh those actually look ok>modern Weeb inspired wardrobeWhich is what I was looking for but someone redirected me into this thread lol
>>10531457Weebs are left to die in the weeb-ditch. Get some hosen, and make sure they are so tight, they are painted on.
>>10531503>>10531457This. Sluts fucking love tight pants, provided you're not utterly fat/ugly.
some random memes from the larp meme FB pge
>>10531457Ah okay if you're looking for more normie approachable stuff you can always check out historybounding. Thats combining modern and period clothing for a cord.
>>10531248CoMe oN InGeRLanD
>>10531573>>10531575>>10531576>>10531579>>10531581can we go back to the part where we didn't had to see these?
>>10531552You’re not on /tg/ anon. Don’t be a tool here.
>>10531776My secret identity, exposed. Score some fucking charges!
Does anywhere know good places to get lamellar breastplates in bongland?
>>10532167I think I might end up going for a place called the Early Medieval Shop. Got some neat helmets, and seems like a decent prices at 500 Euros for pic related.
>>10532167In england?No. Ships to england?I've ehard good things about http://truehistoryshop.com/ And forge of svan also does some lamellar, and is usually pretty inexpensive. Buhurt people occasionally don't like svan, but their shit is good enough for larping and usually relatively cheap.
in the meantime, autosage reached ,etc, etc.new thread>>10532631>>10532631