I'm a guy. A huge, tall, wide, hairy big boi who lifts heavy metal plates and punches other burly guys in a ring. I only wear black tank tops (got about 20 of them) and sport legwear everywhere I go. I don't even own other clothes since my job is also in a gym. Every clothing I own is some sort of sports clothing.But I want to dress fancy as fuck. I saw someone post this pic in an Ideals thread on /fit/ and it piqued my interest.Or something similar to this. Basically the male version of lolita.Where the hell do I even begin, if it's something I haven absolutely and utterly ZERO experience with and knowledge of? Like, so I google (lolita clothes for men" ? I'm not even american, don't suggest american brands or shops please, thank you.
>>10449407Im a dude, 6 foot tall and average weight. Most jfashion is made for short people.Cgl hasnt helped me one bit any time I asked, so I wish you luck trying get them to help you.
>>10449407This.. isn't really the mail version of lolita. If you are interested in the male version of lolita, called ouji, there is a thread for it. I do see bigger guys ask for advice there, so they might be able to help
>>10449410Well I'm 193 cm which is 6 foot 3 in amerimeters, and quite heavy at 105 kg or 231 lbs in amerikilograms, so that would make me a literal giant.Is there even a hope for me? I don't want to be "the big sports guy" all my life. I want to be fabulous and fancy as fuck.>>10449412I don't know what fits where, that's why I said I have actual zero experience with this. I see fancy frills and colors and I think lolita. Simple as.I'll check the thread you mentioned, thanks, maybe I'll get something out of it.Just a question, where do you usually buy clothes? For sports attire it's easy (since you barely need more than 3 pieces at any one time)By the way there's a guy and his wife I follow on instagram, and the guy looks fabulous as fuck. They're american and with any americans I usually talked, all their advice and suggestions are alien to my ears.Not sure if I should DM them,
>>10449407>Basically the male version of lolita.None of the pictures you posted fit this description.The top left is steampunk and the other three are normie with good taste in prints.>Where the hell do I even begin,I mean, if you're dead set on this description which personally I don't think is what you're looking for, start reading up and checking out inspiration for 'ouji'.
>>10449415>Is there even a hope for me?Yeah, even if you don't fit into asian sizing, you can look for similar silhouettes in american clothing. You could also commission custom statement pieces from seamstresses, or ask them to upsize something if possible, or look for American-made Japanese-inspired fashion. Honestly, you could dip into medevial fashion for flouncy shirts and such and blend them into your base fashion. Again, capturing the silhouettes/details is the most important thing.>all their advice and suggestions are alien to my ears.Why is that? What are they suggesting that doesn't make sense?
>>10449407you're looking for normie clothes, anon>>>/fa/
>>10449407Go look up tailored suiting, maybe goth suiting at a push. Those photos are a million miles from Jfash.
>>104494076'1 fellow /fit/izen here, bumping for interest.
>>10449407Top left is just plain ugly and the rest are normie clothes. Ask >>>/fa/.
>>10449407None of this is jfashion. You'd be better looking into dandy fashion for fashion. Honestly, if this is the stuff you like just go get a nice tailored suit or two. Switch out the shirts and ties.
>>10449452Oops, should say dandy fashion for inspo
>>10449452Learn to sage, retard.
>>10449407Why is it always scrotes who think their basic bitch questions deserve entire threads
>>10449457You and I both know it’s because men are entitled pissbabies. Kek. >inb4 a scrote throws a temper tantrum over this post or not getting advice handed to them on a silver platter
>>10449457>>10449461Silence gulls, go back to deepthroating a can of pringles.
>>10449431No, not /fa/ I actually am looking for clothes similar to your pic related. Something entirely fabulous and somewhat outrageous. Like I said before, I have ZERO experience with this. My entire wardrobe consists of tank tops and gym shorts. I don't even rightly know what I want but like stated previously, something outrageous and fabulous.Like that guy in your pic.
>>10449472Learn to use the damn catalog, crossboarder.
not sure if you're still around the thread anymore op but even though i don't wear ouji/ega/dandy and other masc fashion myself (mainly lolita) i always want to help guys who are enthusiastic about fashion and looking fabulous, even if they make entire threads for themselves instead of lurking and posting in the help threads. drop your discord or email or something and i'll hit you up to help. the tldr is to find the more mature substyles of ouji from shops that do custom sizing such as fanplusfriend and other taobao shops, but it can be intimidating to a clueless newb, hence why i'm offering to help. otherwise, good luck and try not to be too discouraged from the replies here
>>10449407Fuck off chromosoid and use one of the help threads next time
>>10449407>the male version of lolitaso...a brolita?
>>10449469>get a load of this guy
OP if you haven't sift through the thread for the right thing, the answer is Ouji or Aristocrat. Be warned that this fashion is fairly expensive for good pieces and you'll have to learn how to take care of your clothes. No just throwing them around the house, actually hang your shit up and pay attention to how you wash. Get yourself some measuring tape and measure your bust, waist, shoulders, hips, etc. in cm because a lot of what you are going to buy is going to be made for Asian bodies and you want your shit to fit. If not, you may have to look into a tailor.I for one, welcome any man that actually wants to put effort into how he looks. Remember basic hygiene, properly cut hair and beard, maybe pick up some no-makeup makeup skills. YouTube helps.
>>10449478>>10449513Stay mad hamplanets.
>>10449519>thinking the board is mad because ur so big and fit and manly >still too retarded to find this normie shit at ur local kohls
>>10449518stop spoonfeeding retards you autist.
>>10449524No.I understand the hostility, but I'd like to encourage genuine Jfashion questions and interest instead of another coomer and race baiting thread. Let's not be as horrible as our brothers on other boards unless they deserve it.
>>10449547fuck off and make a different thread then. idiots like you who try to convert shit threads instead of making new ones don't realize that people continually read and respond to OP. it's not about being mean it's about not keeping shitty bait threads open.
>>10449552This thread didn't start off as a bait thread. It was a question from a guy who said at the start he litterally knew nothing about lolita fashion, but was interested and didn't know how to convey his questions nor even knew what to post as seen here>>10449472Where he says that's what he's looking for. If anything it'd the responses of this thread that has derailed it instead of pointing the newbie in the right direction so he can be on his way. If it bothers you that much that a guy wants to look into the fashion just hide the thread as I have done with coomer and race threads.
>>10449519>asks stupid question in separate thread because too dumb to learn how to use the catalog>becomes whiny pissbaby when we don't spoonfeed youtypical male behavior. continue looking like trash, that way we'll all know to avoid you.
OP here, christ almighty you people are more rude than the coomers on high test threads when you call the girls fat.Yeah I get it, new thread and all but I searched the OP beforehand. And what did I find? Well nothing and everything, but if I genuinely don't know what am I looking at, how do I sort through the information?>>10449518The guy is that picture looks incredible. I want that, although my real concern is that I'm too tall to pull something like this off. Does anyone have any good example of fabulous tall aristocrats?>>10449480I'm not home right now and I don't have my laptop, but I'll get back tomorrow. If you're still around I'll post my discord in this thread. Legit willing to get into this.One last question. What am I going to do with the style? I am very utilitarian. Dress lightly, go to the gym/work/running/camping, get back, throw clothes in the wash machine, done.All I want is to be outrageous and fabulous but I don't know where to take it. I guess I could dress up once a week or so and go to a coffee shop in order to work on my novel, as opposed to just writing at home as I normally would. Or dress up when I go to church, as opposed to my normal shirt and suit. When you guys dress up, for what purpose do you dress up?
>>10449583Sup OP my man. Fellow male here and ouji.Those clothes cannot be used for /out/. They are as hard to wash as a suit jacket.I would tell you to take a look at the japanese brands Alice and the Pirates, Atelier Boz or Metamorphose, but they are made for the very small japanese men (shirt size S or 1).Instead look for a brand named Fanplusfriend. They are american and do custom sizes.If you are daring enough and have more or less an idea of what you want, you can order them comissioned at the brand Glittertale. They do comissioned custom designs and custom sizing as well. Maybe they can even make something appropriate for /out/.
>>10449583>>10449590Same anon here.Take a look at ouji-armoire.tumblr.com for inspo. clothes are unisex but you will see only women models wearing it. Ouji is a dead art by itself. Only few males do it:@firstname.lastname@example.org@ikemenmode@technotropism@princeblackheartTake a look at >>10414729 for buying ouji from china via Taobao and >>10423198 for /ouG/ general
>>10449407>huge, tall, wide, hairy big boi who lifts heavy metal plates and punches other burly guys in a ring>male version of lolitabut anon, lolita IS for males. just wear it. do it, pussy. I'm telling you to, right now. do it and post results. what are you, some fucking basedboy? scared of your little dicklet friends making fun of you in the gym as you power through your reps in your brand new Angelic Pretty(TM) dress? Ladybeard-sama would be ashamed.
>>10449594He looks better in his maid outfits imo but also how does this look better than half the ita thread?
>>10449583>but I searched the OP beforehand. And what did I find? Well nothingThere’s literally an ouji thread in the catalog>The guy is that picture looks incredible.>The guy> guy
>>10449583The website where the image came from is here https://www.lolitawardrobe.com/lost-angel-spirit-of-knight-embroidery-ouji-lolita-military-lolita-jacket-female-version-skirt-set_p3875.html though it is sold out. This shop and others like it are taobao resellers. If you can learn how to use a shopping service, you can buy from taobao directly a whole lot cheaper (there is a taobao thread in the catalog). Always check the available sizes less you end up looking like this guy.>>10448920Join an ouji or even a lolita group and ask for coord help. Try putting together the images first before you buy.As for where to wear this stuff, try wearing it around your house first to get used to it. You can wear it out to a cafe, shopping, museum, parks etc. and if we weren't in a pandemic right now you could find meetups where you can hang around others that like the fashion. I highly, HIGHLY suggest googling and YouTube videos on beginners for this fashion, the culture, and how to respond to people in public questioning your choices. I'm not a man so I don't know the male side, but I assume it's similar experiences save for like, people randomly flipping your dress or think you're part of some fetish group. (Ironic because it's a conservative fashion)
>>10449594>Ladybeard and not ManaHow dare you?
>>10449597And I literally never heard of ouji before this thread. So I searched through the catalog and flew right past the ouji thread, without even knowing what the hell it is.It must be legit hard to comprehend for someone well versed in this hobby, but I LITERALLY, GENUINELY, LEGITIMATELY have had no idea what it all is, what it means and where to start.>>10449593>>10449590Hell yeah man, thanks a lot, I'll look all those guys up.Anyway I'm really not planning to go /out/ like that. I want it more to walk around the city and be the most outrageously fabulous individual on the street.Tbh I'm not daring and have no idea what I want yet. So far I think I'm leaning more towards suits that could incorporate a cape, or even a half cape like those Italian aristocracy capes that cover an arm.>>10449594I'm already wearing needlessly skintight pants for the gym, to showcase my glutes.Real talk though, what do you need to pull something like this off on day to day life? Or is it all for the memes?
>>10449608>Real talk though, what do you need to pull something like this off on day to day life? Or is it all for the memes?Balls
>>10449614I've never seen an ouji or Male lolita in my entire life. I guess you have to live within those circles, but once upon a time I knew a girl who was really into lolita fashion. She was pretty much the only one I've ever seen wearing these type of clothes outside the internet.I kinda forgot that this fashion existed until I stumbled randomly on a picture of a guy who burned his blue jeans and has never worn jeans since. It really hit me because I find blue jeans to be the most insulting type of clothing in existence. I pretty much haven't worn a pair of jeans in a decade.That's kinda why I made this thread. I find most types of clothes so damn ugly. Gym wear is nice and useful, light weight and easy to wear and wash but it's so ugly it screams.
>>10449617If you're genuinely curious about a man in lolita, look up the brolita thread in the catalog.
>>10449597Can't look for a term you don't know, anon. They stated that they had zero knowledge of the fashion prior to this thread and needed direction. Perhaps the jfash help thread would've been the proper place, but I think it's hard sell to say a newbie should've known to go to the ouji thread.
>>10449608I wear lolita daily and I do get tons of compliments, a few people making fun of me or calling me something dumb, but I just ignore the haters and do my thing. So really, you can dress however intricately you want, wherever you want. You just have to deal with the consequences of your choices, but for me, a taller woman who wears lolita, those consequences are dealing with people coming up and saying how they love my outfit. Most people say they wish they had the guts/balls to dress how they want to dress, and that I look pretty/cool/beautiful/etc, so becomes encouraging. Not that I need randos to encourage me to do what I would be doing willingly anyway, but it does get easier anon. Just do your thing and give no fucks. Life is too short to dress in boring ways. Unless, of course, that's what you like!
>>10449614this is the true answer. this fashion attracts attention, even the most casual of coords are eye catching to a normie. just be prepared for people to at least look at you a little bit. they may say something too. most of the time it's been compliments, but sometimes there are assholes, just be prepared to react to both. maybe wear some earpods or something.
>>10449614Understanding TPO helps. (Time place occasion). So does understanding the spectrum from casual to OTT. (Over The Top). So does understanding substyles, classic can be a lot less extra than sweet or goth. For example, I do not wear supergoth mainpieces, large headpieces, huge platform shoes, big statement jewelry, or strong makeup to work.
>>10449617Zack Pinsent?>>10449608That guy anon again. M8 idk, you don't really need to pull anything off other than just going out. People don't care at all. Some will give you a good stare though. Nothing unexpected really.If you want to, you can try and gather with another lolitas at a lolita comm. All the lolitas social groups that go out are on facebook. Just search for lolitas (yourcityhere) at facebook.Although be careful and lurk more if you choose this way. Girls are very suspicious of men and prolly some will think youre a perverted freak trying to hit on them, although they will act fine on the surface.I recommend the channels ScarfingScarves and Lovely Lor and all the other channels linked with. It will give you an idea how lolitas think and feel.Also lurk the convos here. Take a look at warosu archives too. Try not to create drama and stuff will be fine
>>10449410cgl hasn't helped you probably because you were expecting handouts where there aren't any. We don't have solutions for you besides "look for the silhouette but in western brands."Most of us aren't huge hairy men and have no experience with the things you're asking for help with. We can only give you direction for you to do your own research.
i mean first of all, shave all the body/facial hair off. that shit's gross
>>10449410It's made for Asian men of average Asian height, which is around 5'6-5'7, which is not short in their own countries. You can't expect it to cater to you. There are some places that do custom sizes.
>>10449407I for one am glad to see big buff gym dudes genuinely interested in fancy guys' fashion (I did a little bit of punching other people too though I never took it to a ring, and among that crowd, this kind of interest is certainly not common). No such thing as too tall if you're mindful about proportioning and buy clothes that fit you, and from the sounds of your schedule, you'd likely be looking at wearing this on the weekends before you decide if you want to wear it more often. I think you have the right approach (that this is regular wear, not a costume) and genuine interest, which is already a better start than most. Drop me a line and I'll help, or at least answer some basic questions if you're not getting anything helpful here.
>>10449674NAYRT find cgl tends to shit on both tall men and women regardless of whether they are knowledgeable or not
>>10449583yeah i'm still around, thankfully it seems there are other folks itt who also want to help as well as all the pretty helpful replies in here since! seriously try not to get discouraged, you're definitely on the right track
Leave it to a man to think they deserve an entire fucking thread all to themselves. Stop encouraging this.
OP here, good morning and thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I now have direction, which was the purpose of this thread. But most importantly I think I have a better idea of what to look for and what I'm should be going for, and a better understanding of how should I tackle this style, as someone who has NEVER thought about clothes deeper than throw shirt on, throw shirt off.Some people suggested I go to /fa/ but every time I went there all I saw were sad cunts wearing street tech fashion and ultra cyberpunk fashion. Maybe that's the in thing, but I wouldn't know. In this regard /fa/ wasn't much help although the board was easier to navigate.The type of clothing on /fa/ was pretty far from what I'm looking for which leads me directly to the other topic.I think I found a style that I want to pull off, which is sort of a vampire/aristocrat style that deals in burgundy, dusky and melancholic colors and easily incorporates long coats, capes, cloaks, shawls. I think I instinctually like this style because even in the OP pic I liked the first guy most. You called his style steampunk but it's the colors and the more classical/romantic disposition that caught my eye. The 3 other guys were too normie casual.>>10449847Nobody deserves anything my friend, but we're all in debt with 1 death.>>10449684Thanks a lot, I'll start browsing the sites and threads suggested as soon as I get home. Just a question, do these sites usually sell an entire suit or individual pieces? I have absolutely no idea how / why to fit certain colors and styles and outfit pieces and I don't want to end up a legit clown mess with no sense.>>10449673Meetings and stuff is a bit too far from where I stand. I want to get my first suit first and see how it all goes. I suppose I need a certain level of self confidence within the style in order to just go and meet people dressed up as an outrageously fabulous caped vampire.
>>10449675Yeah, I never considered completely shaving until i did, and I felt so clean and smooth.I already go clean shave because I don't like beards, but I do keep sideburns.
>>10449877I'm the anon who offered to help, but you should probably know that cgl has its own system going and half the reason people are so hostile to you here is because it's frowned upon to make a new thread when an existing thread would do, in this case, the stupid questions thread (handholding/spoonfeeding like I'm doing is also frowned on, but I'm assuming good intent for now and that you genuinely don't know). Either take your questions there, or hit someone up off-cgl (I left my email in my last post). You'll get actual answers and the gulls will be happier.
>>10449877I feel you. I am >>10449673. Poke me up on the email, id love to talk more.
>>10449407h.Naoto does custom sizing and MILKBOY has oversized shirts.
>>10451512>h.Naoto does custom sizingsince when? I have been out of the scene for 10 years
This is why Aristo and EGA are dying, so many noobs screeching about ouji as if it's the only valid alternative. OP do some research, decide what you like then try posting again in the help thread/stupid questions thread and you're gonna get much better results. Shit they don't call us gulls for nothing.