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Idk what happened to previous thread, so here we go.
Can someone recall the retail price for Carnival second edition?
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>>10398429
Got to find anon posting on this matter https://warosu.org/cgl/thread/10113874#p10116834
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>>10398429
This color? No more than $400.
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>>10399193
Anon says MTO order was ¥48900 before tax. Probably it happened to be more pricey to make all the scallops and pony appliques in 2017.
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size m, white colorway
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>>10398429
How can you tell the difference between the editions? I was thinking of buying one but I want to make sure I know I’m getting
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>>10402900
From what I know the only difference is the tag. I've asked so because I expected the latter release to affect the price of both so it's somewhere near re-release retail price.
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I try again... gloria with matching headdress?
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just wondering
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>>10403021
last dress sold for 180 but i guess with cape I'd probably say 300+ because I doubt anyone would sell the cape by itself
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>>10402900
Besides the difference in tags, I noticed the re-releases in pink and pink x red being a darker shade of pink than the originals? I haven't been able to tell the difference between the black releases, though.
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Wondering..... Second hand, without accessories.
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>>10403013
This isn't 2010, anon. No one remembers Gloria being scalped. I had another super scalped old AATP dress and had to sell it dirt cheap. Newfags have memed all old Moitie and AP into being scalped nowadays while Baby/ AATP/ IW dies in popularity
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Princess Cat bag? Curious.
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>>10406413
Saw it on mercari for 10K yen recently.

So $100 or so sounds about right.
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>>10406726
>Newfags have memed all old Moitie and AP into being scalped nowadays
please tell me when this hasn't been the case? 2007? AP and MMM have always been the most popular brands with expensive prints.
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>>10407727
There was a pretty heavy dip for both old AP and Moitie within the last couple of years. People even speculated Moitie being the next brand to go under until WW took over because they weren’t releasing anything and no one cared about the 2nd hand. If you were buying from like 2015-2018 then you landed the sweet spot, prices are insane now compared to what they used to be for both brands.
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kind of curious about this one, especially in this colorway
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>>10407727
I used to get MMM bargains all the time on the non-print stuff back in the mid-10s (the prints have always been scalped though, you're right). For example, I got the Rose Tulle skirt for €80 in like 2014 and it sells for easily twice that now.
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>>10408011
Sorry, Tulle Rose, not Rose Tulle.
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considering selling, does anyone know around what i should ask? its like new, no damages
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Princess Cat Jsk in pink?
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>>10410623
200~250 in good condition
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>>10408034
I’ve been wanting the sax OP, but it seems like it’s not going to happen so I’d be happy to buy this off you. I’ll give you $400, email me if you’re interested.
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>>10414102
Fuck that’s cute
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How much do you think an all black princess shirring jsk will go for these days?
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>>10414145
Honestly? $50 max, possibly less
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>>10414145
One just like it recently sold on LM for $112. It’s one of the few old schoolish dresses that’s accommodating to larger lolitas so there will always be a decent market though all one color is the least popular style. Do an auction, I’ve never seen Shirring Princess not get a bite on auction and I’ve sold three over the years. I think if anything people tend to under price them as a BIN and miss out on money. Start the auction at $80 and see where it goes
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>>10414148
>>10414154
Thanks for the input gulls. I figured it wouldn’t be worth much. I bought it as an easy loaner piece for any of my friends that wanted to try out lolita. I guess I’ll just keep it for shits and giggles
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Had this lying around for awhile be hard to let go of it but think it would be better off going to someone who would actually wear and appreciate it more. Idea on price?
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>>10418393
A-Anon, when you get a price, do you plan to post it in the BST thread or on LM? I’m really interested in this!
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>>10418430
I plan to post it up on Lacemarket eventually.
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>>10418444
Okay, I’ll keep a close eye out, thanks!
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>>10418393
I think you could get close to $100 for it. An identical one sold a month ago for $90 and AH retains value really well
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How much do peppermint fox pins go for?
I have a bunch but I don’t really like most of them. Some were bought as part of a lucky pack so not their most popular designs
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>>10418588
I think on average $15-20ish a piece if they’re cute. More like 10 for less cute ones. The less cute ones would be ones that look just like a plain gem or egg or like a military ribbon. Any animals would be worth closer to twenty
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How much do qpot jewelry pieces go for? Rings, necklaces, I haven’t seen much on lacemarket.
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>>10418648
there's a bunch on closetchild
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>>10418497
a bit offtopic but what happened to AH? they just stopped, never made an announcement or anything
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How much does Lady Rose usually go for? Looking at the skirts and maybe JSKs.
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>>10418666
Their website is still up and they have things for sale still, but yeah, it’s been the same collection for at least a year.
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Why is the MTO of Honey Cake going for $300+ when everyone here hates it?
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>>10419070
Because not everyone goes on cgl probably?
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>>10418430
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/automatic-honey-angel-tears-acrylic-necklace

Nta who owns it but just spotted it up for sale and remembered you, anon
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Anyone know what cream cookie collection is worth these days? Took a hiatus from lolita and missed the MTO back when it happened. I love the dress but I don't have $500 and wonder if I should just give up searching for it for a better price
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>>10407699
The western market might be able to fetch around $50 more than that on it
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>>10407727
2010-2017 was a good time to buy older AP pieces (solids), for pennies to the dollar. I’ve scored so many solids for under $100 but now they’re double the price
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>>10419288
I got mine for 300 recently
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>>10419195
Just saw this because of work being busy but I just bought it! Thanks a bunch anon!
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>>10419533
All the cute old solids that would sit for months cost $200+ and sell instantly now I hate it here
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>>10419948
For real, the amount of listings on LM is way smaller than it used to be because everything is snatched up instantly. I blame the Chinese lolitas. Every listing I’ve made recently I’ve gotten questions about whether I’ll ship to a Chinese lolita with a forwarding service address that’s not listed on their PayPal
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>>10419968
If I ever get a request like this, it's going to be a hard no from me.
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>>10419974
Yup, that’s exactly what I said. She bought the item anyway and was like heehee it’s fine, right? She got an instant negative and black list from me
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>>10420003
Thank you for doing god's work.
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Anyone know the price for Alice and the Pirates Time of the Roses OP in blue? I've seen the black OP and JSKs go for 180-185$ but have no idea about the blue. I'm thinking of selling.
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>>10419968
>>10419974
>>10420003
No offence, but isn't this the exact same with Japanese sellers and westerners? I know cgl isn't a hive mind, but neraly everytime someone couldn't buy from a japanese seller because they blocked the ss or something like that, it was met with negative comments towards the seller. Where is the difference? Nearly every argument towards western market not opening up to china can be directly applied to japan not opening to our western market.
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>>10420023
I have no problem with the SS buying it. I have a big problem with someone buying it and expecting me to send it to their SS when their shopping service isn’t listed as their PayPal shipping address. And this is what they’ve asked me to do. By sending it to any other address other than the one listed as the paypal shipping address they can say they didn’t receive it and scam me out of a free dress
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>>10420023
there's a huge difference between regular SS and the weird "dropship" SS shit anon is talking about.
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>>10419288
One for $300 here anon:

https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/ap-cream-cookie-collection-jsk-c8fa4f9d-2924-4662-abc6-88de7f6bad19
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What is cotton candy shop worth these days? Thinking of selling mine but unsure what the market price is now
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>>10420761

Last one that I remember being sold with KC and socks was a good bit over $200
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>>10420747
Thank you anon! For a second though it was BIN and got excited, but then realized it's auction only. I'll wait and see how high the bids get
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Whats the most ya'll would spend on Melty Cream? Im a fool and my wallet is about to part ways
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>>10420890
(personally) jsk ~260 usd, op ~320. lines up with a lot of the prices in the history, although I'm sure other people would go higher
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>>10420890
The MCD JSK in pink would easily go over $300 in an auction. Unless there is a piece just called "melty cream" I don't know about and that's what you mean?
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Anyone know what the lavender dolly cat low waisted jsk is going for?
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>>10421301
I want to know this too. I thought people hated the low waist version, but now I see it getting sold for ~$200 or even ~$250? There's also that listing sitting on LM for $400 BIN. I want to sell mine in the future because I finally found the regular pink JSK.
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are these worth anything anymore?
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>>10421318
I bought it on a whim and it doesn’t fit right now. Even when I lose the weight that low waist is gonna look hella weird on me because I’m short. Like...uhhhhhhhhh. I want it gone.
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I'm debating on selling these. I've never used them but they were in storage so their saddles are severely discolored and parts of their ribbons are slightly frayed. If I can oxyclean their saddles to hopefully as close as their original state, how much could I get for them?
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>>10421403
$250-300 probably
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>>10421407
Each i meant
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Is wrapping cherry really worth 300 now? I like the dress but can't imagine spending over 250 for it
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>>10421408
I think the anon did mean $250-$300 each (as long as you can clean them). Lately these are going for more and more.

If you have the blue x white one, I would be a very interested buyer. He's the last one I need to complete my favorite colorways and I'm willing to drop some benjamins.
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>>10421412
I should add, I know I missed this one twice recently. I had put in an order with my SS twice and both times they were 10 minutes too late.
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I have an original release velveteen babydoll JSK I’m probably going to list for sale. What is a reasonable price to ask for this?
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>>10421417
A badly damaged one seems to have sold for $166 on LM. Maybe put it up for auction starting at $150.
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>>10421408
Yes, each. That brown x pink one was listed for $250 recently and went fast.
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>>10421426
Anon, how does that make any sense unless the one they have is also badly damaged? I say start at $200, that dress goes for a ton on the Japanese market, especially in velveteen
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>>10421407
Well shit, I might as well sell it. I wasn’t aware they were worth that much.
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>>10421403
There was an anon in I think the BST thread looking for pony bags anon, might wanna check them out first
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>>10421476
$150 is a bait price, it's obviously going to sell for much higher.
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>>10421522
Go with a ridiculous price, some retard might go for it. You can always lower if shit doesnt sell
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>>10421403
How much discolored are they?
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>>10421409
It only inflated when someone posted a WTB post here. It's not worth that much, people are just scalpers.
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>>10421899
The pink x brown isn’t as discolored as the pink x sax, which has yellowed significantly. Gonna try oxyclean or a plant based cleaner to whiten it before I even attempt selling (if I do, still debating on it).
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>>10422100
*brighten, not whiten
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>>10422038
I posted it, and now feel guilty. I wasn't the one who bought it, but I saw the pink one was reduced to $250 before it sold so at least it wasn't scalped to whoever got it.
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>>10422100
learn to store stuff better.
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>>10422209
Not trying to sound like a bitch but where can I store it? I had it in a large storage tub with other lolita accessories and it managed to turn gross.
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>>10422222
Why did it turn gross? Do you live in a humid area?
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>>10422222
>>10422223
Nayrt but I'm not sure if it's the humidity or the plastic in the tub that makes things yellow? I keep almost all of my items in the open air and haven't had things yellow or discolor. I always thought I was either magical or everyone else was really unlucky.
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>>10422223
Not sure, maybe there was just a lot of space in the the tub that wasn’t used? And my closet tends to trap heat. But yeah I do live in a humid place so I imagine that doesn’t help. I’ll just oxyclean the saddle since the pony’s body has no dirt and isn’t matted.
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>>10422223
NTA but yellowing is caused by a lot of different things, sweat or other bacteria oxidizing, mold, mildew, and being in a storage tub won't keep the air out. this is why vacuum sealing is so important, even for short term stuff. keeping the air out when storing things is what prevents the mold or discoloration. it's really impossible to know what happened though. just make sure to vacuum seal all your items, especially if they were used.
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Same anon as dolly cat. Still wanting to know price on dolly cat but also if anyone knows about the pink girl’s heart jsk then that would be swell.
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>>10422230
God, I treat my dresses and blouses with the utmost care but treat my accessories like shit. I needed to hear this, thanks!
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Was someone looking for this?

https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/ap-op-set-btssb-accessories
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>>10422225
it's the plastic tub
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>>10422322
nayrt but fuck, I store some of my dresses in a plastic tub, what else can I put them in
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>>10421403
if above anon isnt interested in pinkxsax due to discoloration feel free to email me as well! i definitely might be interested <3
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>>10422225
>>10422322
it's not literally the tub but storing them in a closed space in general causes mildew.
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>>10422323
>>10422333
BHT (butylated hydroxyl tolune) in plastic causes yellowing my dudes
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>>10422323
you want a breathable cotton storage bag otherwise the fibers in clothes will break down
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>>10422326
I’ll let you know if I ever decide to sell them! I bought them when I was still a OTT sweet lolita and don’t want to end up regretting parting with them because sweet has a special place in my heart.
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>>10421318
Hey, anon! Follow up! I didn't get an immediate response so I had the idea to google search wunderwelt listings that had sold. Low waisted Dolly Cat seems to have gone for like $211 in good condition, then closer to $150 in poor. Granted those are two different colorways than I have. But it's something to go off of. Hope that helps. (also I did the same thing for Girl's heart and just took a stab so I'm good on answers. Thank you everyone.)
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>>10422342
no worries i totally understand! i only have one right now and i absolutely adore her so i totally understand why they would be hard to give up
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>>10422338
>>10422341
would something like this work? https://www.amazon.com/iwill-CREATE-PRO-Household-Collapsible/dp/B0831D2448/

thank you so much anons
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>>10403021
>>10403162
180 is low for this dress, especially in red. They can get way more for it than that even without the cape, if they're willing to wait more than a couple of days for it to sell.
Source: bought it in black.
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>>10422235
I’m guessing around $150 max. This dress wasn’t popular at all.
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>>10422596
Sold for like $220 earlier today on LM iirc
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>>10422597
Really? It was in stock forever. I guess pink dresses usually do okay, though.
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>>10422594
Adding on to this: the red set with cape sold for about $500 recently and $415 a year ago so I would start somewhere between there.
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>>10422599
Yeah, I was bummed since I was hoping it would get reduced. I'm hoping to find it for cheap since it was so unpopular. Imagine my surprise when it actually sold for the asking price, and it had slight damages
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Price check for Sugar Hearts Jsk set in white.?
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Pricing for IW blouses? I just found some in different sizes from an old luckypack that I apparently packed for a move and then never unpacked or touched. So they're old despite being BNWT.

I'm actually thinking of selling similar sizes in lots rather than one by one, is that better or worse?
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>>10422827
Depends on which blouses they are anon, I think even in new condition IW blouses won't go for more than 100 dollars. Which ones are you planning on selling? Since I've been looking for their chiffon stuff.
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>>10422205
They should go around the $150 mark. Sometimes people see the WTB posts on here or on the DD thread and think they can turn a profit due to scarcity of a certain dress. Trust me, it'll come up, you won't need to cave to whoever is scalping it for their own gain.
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>>10422827
If it’s the kind of blouse in the pic, you can probably get like $60-$70 max, and that’s if you’re patient. IW has a cheap secondhand market and their blouses aren’t that popular in the west.
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>>10422811
anon are you selling? if so email me willing to pay what you think is fair, i also have a friend whos been looking forever who i wanna give priority to
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>>10422811
$400
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>>10422945
It is a maybe at the moment. Been trying to find the pink set before selling it.
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>>10422851
NTA but I only found one has been sold for 150 in the history of LM, with most selling around the 250 mark.
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Is this real life? I have the yellow colourway of this necklace and I can't believe how crazy AP jewelry has been selling for lately
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>>10424437
I was wondering about this. It's almost at 400 USD now. I know it's AP, but man...
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>>10424457
>>10424437
I'm the anon that bought a necklace for $200 awhile back, and even I find this egregious.
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>>10424491
why do you insist on continuing to bring this up
literally no one cares
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>>10424437
Yet you barely see anyone wearing it, it's hilarious.

>>10424494
Mental illness, probably.
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>>10424494
Because you still care, anon.

Also, mostly for context.
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>>10424491
Buying a $200 necklace is not a personality trait jesus fucking christ
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>>10424491
holy fuck. this has got to be a joke at this point
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>>10420761
Hey! If you're selling then look my way!
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How much does Kuma Kumya’s Marine Island go for? I have it in the worst colorway desu
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>>10424491
What necklace is it?
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>>10421403
Anon! I’m in the BST looking for these babies! If you ever think of selling one please email me!
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How much did y'all pay for Honey Cake, the mto one? My budget is $400 and it feels like it's not enough lmao
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How much for Sugar Pansy with/without set?
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3 dream dresses and any of AP's plush bags, just so i know what to expect when hunting
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Big feeler, I have this JSK in orange and have worn it once in the years I’ve had it. I’m not sure I’m going to sell it anytime soon, but how much can I realistically ask for it? I do not have the hat or pin, but I have the JSK and necktie. I’m starting to feel like it’s a waste if I’m not using the items I have, the collector joy has left for the most part.
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>>10426595
I think putting it up on auction would be the best idea. I'm not sure if it's still a sought after dress(last time I saw the black colorway, it sat at 40k on mercari for more than a month before getting deleted), but at least one anon in the DD thread keeps posting it once in a while.
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>>10426595
I know 3 people personally who have this as a dream dress so I would agree auction is the way to go.
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>>10426558
Our lord Chick-chan has no price. He transcends monetary values.
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>>10426634
i must possess him
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>>10426640
For real though, I think the last time he went up for sale was a yahoo jp auction for $300 or something. I got my divine baby a little over a year ago (from a different listing) and can't imagine what the resale price is now.
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>>10426597
>>10426631
Thanks for the advice! If I do decide to sell I’ll likely do an auction.
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Toy parade jsk in lavender. Secondhand, no accessories
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Meta cat bubble bath jsk in this colorway. Its one of my dream dresses and I want to know how much I can expect to pay for it on the secondhand market.
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What would the price be for Rose Ribbon Embroidery, and which colors would be more expensive than others?
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>>10427938
at least $800
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im unsure if this even pops up secondhand but i want this for my wedding
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>>10427943
Only the velveteen version
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>>10427917
130-150
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>>10428303
doubt - past sales would price it more around the $200 range, plus there was the re-release that people missed out on and are feeling the FOMO that'd be willing to pay more.

Start bidding at $200, see what happens. Or BIN at 250.
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>>10427917
200+ for sure, 150 would've been the price a year or two ago.
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>>10428306
Toy Parade was not re-released recently. That was Toy Fantasy. Why do people always get this print mixed up? They look completely different.
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>>10428383
because I'm fucking stupid, anon.

Regardless, >>10427917 is worth 200+
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>>10428165
They only made velveteen versions, 15 of each color and that’s it. There is no non-velveteen version. Velveteen is made of cotton so if you hear people say they say it described somewhere as cotton, they’re still talking about the velveteen version
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I have memorial cake halterneck jsk that’s badly damaged. When I bought it the shirring was so badly stretched out that I haven’t fixed and I think I’ve given up trying to fix. There’s also discoloration. I also have the matching cloth bag and otks. I’m not sure how much to list it for.
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>>10428595

00
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>>10428380
>>10428395

I feel like most sweet dresses often sell with headwear so anything secondhand with no acessories at all I think $200 max is more fair (especially with how many LM people these days list something as like new when it's probably realistically more like gently used).

But of course people are thirsty and it would likely go for more with an auction.
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>>10428627
Shittttt I’ll probably have to hold onto it then and fix it.
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>>10428595
do an auction, start at $95
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>>10428595
not to leech off this thread but depending on the discolouration i'll buy it off you anon, i'm in the market for 2010ish sweet prints
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>>10428595
Do an auction- I have a friend who desperately wants this JSK and is okay with damage.
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>>10428595
That’s fixable damage, anon, especially if it come with the tote bag which can be used to fix repairs. I agree with the others and start an auction
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There is one on LM right now but it is on bid
trying to figure out how much it is really worth
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How much would you pay for a damaged SC jsk? There’s damage on the skirt (2” cut) and yellowing on the under arms, but the main thing I’m worried about is the tag placement. Everything seems legit in terms of lace, buttons, built in petti. But the brand tag is sewn into the bodice area vs on the back. All the posts I’ve seen on LM don’t have that so idk why this one is positioned this way
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>>10429532
the lace looks really scratchy, are you sure this isn't a replica?

If its not then I'd say 150-180
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>>10429532
I'm not sure about the tag. Usually the front, middle bow and the lace at the bottom hem are the give-aways for replicas.

Do you have pictures of the cut? You may just want to put it up for an auction starting at like $50.
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>>10429532
The lace doesn’t look quite right, and the tag placing is bizarre. I’d use caution if you want to sell it, the last thing you want is to sell someone a replica, even unknowingly.
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>>10429537
I was worried about that as well since I know there’s been incidents where replicas have had brand tags sewn on them, but the seller said she got it 10 years ago (can confirm from the last worn pic which had a time stamp cause it was from IG), and the lace trim checks out? Here’s my 2 birds pic with the cut and the lace
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>>10429541
I’m actually the one buying not selling haha. The seller is being super honest about the situation and is looking into her buying history to see if there’s more info
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>>10429540
Here’s a front pic of the dress. Seller said shes not sure where the waist ties are either but it’ll come with the KC. She said she’ll try to find the waist ties before it ships out tho
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>>10429545
Sorry to continue the spam but it looks like the total damages are:
-2” cut on the front left
-missing waist ties
-yellowed pit area
-broken lace on the back corset area
And of course the strange tag placement. Again, I’m the buyer not the seller!!
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>>10429546
The tag placement is really what gets me. It’s just too weird. I’ve never seen any brand dress like this. It could very well be legit, but that’s a hell of a “misprint” (I’m not sure what to call it).
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>>10429546
Sorry, my bad! I assumed you were the seller. This is a picture of my rereleased SC and I'm worried that yours doesn't seem to have the pink "icing" border thing?
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>>10429552
No worries, I appreciate you taking the time to take pics of yours to compare! This is the closest pic I got for the bodice to show the yellowing and it looks like there’s some pink frosting at the bottom but none at the top?
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>>10429550
Yeah that’s the part that had me come running to you guys for help haha. I’ve never had an AP dress where the tag was dead set on the front vs on the side.
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>>10429554
Hmm I'm not sure anymore? Mine is also like that on the sides. What gets me is that button for the JSK straps is like... perfectly the same.
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>>10429554
Actually zooming in more... it looks like there might be the pink icing border on the front?
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>>10429564
Oh I see it!! So it might be legit but these damages tho...should I offer $200 for the set or is that still generous considering? She might have the OTKs too, she said she’s looking for them
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>>10429567
>>10429542

The only other thing that bothers me is the border on the hem. The white space on mine is perfectly parallel along the entire bottom. In your picture it kind of slants and disappears?

But it's so weird. It doesn't seem like a staple replica. I'm so stumped.

I think $200 is too high. It has a lot of damage in my opinion?
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>>10429567
>>10429568
I forgot to add... This might be because mine is a rerelease. I don't have the original release, unfortunately.
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>>10429567
$200 seems generous, even though I’m now leaning towards it being the real thing. It still has some damages, so I think $180 is more appropriate.
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>>10429568
I’m also stumped. If it is a replica, it was made with an exceptional amount of care and attention to detail. There’s dozens of Holy Lantern replicas out there and none of them look remotely as close to the real thing as this.
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>>10429568
I never noticed that until you brought it up!! I can see in the full pic that the white boarder disappears or appears uneven. Not sure if it’s because it needs a steam or what tho. I’m also concerned about laundering it since I know it can be washed in the machine but that cut could get worse right? I guess I’ll throw $180 out there and hope for the best. Thank you for the help!! If any other anon wants to weigh in, I’m open to more opinions
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>>10429574
Right? I wish I had the original release so I could have an exact comparison... Usually something about the replica is a dead giveaway. The tag is the most suspect.

I wonder if the seller could take a picture of the fabric care label in the lining of the dress? Although that probably tells us nothing because if the replica-makers sewed the AP tag in, they probably sewed the fabric care label in too.
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>>10429578
I can take a look at the tags when I meet up in person for the dress. I know the seller well enough to know they wouldn’t actively pass off a replica as the real thing, nor are they the type to own replicas in the first place. But that tag is like a thorn in my side. WHY IS IT THERE?! And what’s up with the wonky boarder? Perhaps it is the first release and it was just shoddy craftsmanship from AP? My other guess was that the previous owner altered it and moved the tag. But that’s weird to me too.



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