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Its really easy to fuck up a fursuit and the lines between cute and uncanny, unique and obnoxious can easily be crossed; unforunately, the fandom wanting to be as accepting as it is, refuse to tell people that their suits are creepy, ugly or whatever

What are some tips for making an appealing design?
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Don't look like some sparkledog disney reject, for one.
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>>10381669
Less is more. Most fursuits that are ugly in my opinion have too many colors, which also clash most of the time. Learn2color theory and stick with a main color (preferably something neutral) and only one or two accent colors.
Additionally, a lot of ugly fursuits have overly complicated patterns on the fur. If your fursona already has unique face markings, they don't also need 500 swirls or on their fur and rainbow paws, etc.
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>>10381669
japanese-style fursuits are way more appealing than western-style
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>>10381669
theodd1sout
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>>10381669
just avoid anything that reminds you of this and seriously keep the less is more advice in mind. also yiff in hell etc
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>>10381690
muh nightmares
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>keep a rule of 3 for colors, more than 3 starts to lose its appeal. Too much to focus on.
>Decide if follow me eyes are better for your character.
>If you're adding a fabric with a pattern like zebra stripes, both colors count towards your rule of 3, once again so you don't have too much to focus on
>Depending on the animal you choose please keep in mind leg joints going in the correct direction.
>Put down a tarp before you work. Fucking trust me.
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Why do western furries have such poor taste? They all looks like a rainbow threw up on them.
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>>10382402
autism
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>>10381690
bro ! this looks like the fursuit of that ped0 plush-o-phile brony that wants "his pen15 to meet a girl's vegana" !

pic unrelated
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>>10381688
i KNEW that it looked familiar
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>>10382402
Gotta be unique or whatever.
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>>10381669
gas all furfags animal wars now
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>>10382402
not kawaii enough
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Fuck it, let’s turn this into the furfag thread. Anybody got any tips for a design with a closed mouth? I’ve been looking at kemono suits for inspo but even most of them have slightly open mouths (for ventilation I assume).
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>>10382402
They make up for their lack of originality in species selection by throwing 10 different colors together. How else are they going to stand out from the 1000s of other foxes, wolves, and cats?
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this doesn't have anything to do with cosplay or jfash
>>>/trash/
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Anybody got more from the carpet sample guy? Perhaps the most infamous character in the furry community. I fascinated by his suit, it almost seems intentionally scary, like the Donnie Darko suit.
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>>10381669
I'm not a maker, but I am an artist. I think the biggest thing for me is colour theory. Since makers generally do custom suits for clients, their suits are only as good as the design, some fugly designs will look bad even with expert craftsmanship.

Unless it's a resin head or a kemono suit, you can't go wrong with big toony eyes. Making them have highlights and lowlights and the illusion of a shine really helps, I think eyes are a huge part of what makes a suit cute or uncanny
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>>10381690
The only excuse for this is if it's an alibrije
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>>10382981
Your best bet will be adding holes hidden under the ears (like ear canals) for alternative ventilation. Atelier Amanojaku has a decent gallery on their chinese website, a lot of their suits have a closed mouth.
https://www.atoama.cn/gallery
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I thought furry was only allowed on /b/?

Are you authorized to post this thread?
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>>10383413
alert the cyberpolice
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>>10383413
many people would consider fursuits cosplay
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>>10383387
funny enough it actually is, it's based on the one in coco. i still hate it though

>>10383413
we've had fursuit threads here several times, i think it's fine as long as it's about fursuit construction and not general furry media since there's definitely cosplay overlap
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>>10383424
woops dropped pic
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>>10383425
>>10383424
Okay, this person gets a pass
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>>10383411
Ty anon, exactly what I was looking for.
>>10383425
That fur with the pebbley pink and green texture is so gross looking
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>>10383487
It looks like soggy Trix cereal
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>>10381669
don't be fucking disgusting, use a simple color palette, and try and follow color theory/complementing colors
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I'm interested in fursuit designs that aren't totally realistic animal masks, but don't really have a cartoony feel either. Are there any makers or suitors that specialize more in this style?
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This thread needs to die in a fire.
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>>10381669
How horrifying.
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>>10381676
I definitely like the kemono style more than whatever the western style is
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>>10382997
Fursuits, cosplay,
Same thing different name.
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Why furries are hated so much?
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>>10384106
where is that blouse from? stock image is kind of hard to see well, but i think that neckline will sit weirdly under your outerwear.
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>>10383425
Wow! Never thought I'd see Coco cosplay ever
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>>10383425
colors are obnoxious part part of the design, the head is well done, though the teeth are a bit uncanny, I think with a few adjustments, it could be really good
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>>10384038
That's like saying a dominatrix outfit is cosplay. It's fetish wear and people hate furries because they refuse to just admit it and try to insist it's just a hobby/lifestyle.
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>>10384106
They were bronies, but worst
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>>10384906
furry isn't a fetish just like lolita isn't. sissies arent part of the fandom so what's different with furries who don't do that?
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Partials are Kinda OK, but full fursuits just end up being baggy and awful. Much prefer the japanese ones which have padding to give the character shape.
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>>10384106
people just like having a group to hate and blame everything on. The furry community is a little better than the cosplay community, and infinitely better than the lolita community.
Furries are very nice for the most part. You don't see much bullying in the furry community unless someone actually did something bad. You wear some socks that are slightly the wrong shade of color in the lolita community, and they will push you to suicide.

I do love it when lolitas attack furries saying their hobby is just a sex thing. The irony is palpable.
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>>10385054
My experience with the furry community is it's hyper permissive, to the extent that people do stuff thats fucked up and harmful, and you become the bad guy for calling them out on it.

Which is a pity because most furs I've known have been kinda cool, I've not really skirted the drain of the community for a while though, all the places I used to hang out have died, and I'm not willing to splash that particular hobby across facebook where my local group seems to have moved to.
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>>10385056
NAYRT, but that's honestly pretty true. Look at all the furries who still believe Kero is an innocent guy.
>>10385034
Are you looking at early fursuits? Most fursuits now have padding.
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Years ago there was a discord for these threads. I that still a thing?
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>>10385056
>>10385076
i mean, the fact the kero drama is even a thing kinda disproves that
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>>10381669
Fuck off you fucking asshole, furries outside of /b/isn't allowed. Go hang yourslelf and enjoy the ban.
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>>10385054
I always love seeing people who actually think the lolita community is so cartoonishly evil.
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>>10385258

>>10384734
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>>10385264
Bro, that suit does not look good.
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>>10384906
A small amount of furries fuck in a costume,
A small amount of cosplayers fuck in a costume

Same thing, different name kek.
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I feel like “follow me” eyes are superior for sure but have yet to figure out why some look terrible while others look beautiful. Honestly so much work goes into well done suits
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>>10385494
that's not what that is for.
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>>10385294
I think you missed anon's point.
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>>10385146
The fact that the Kero even exists shows that furfags need to police their community better. It wasn't just Kero, it was an entire circle of zoophiles and animal abusers. Kero was just the tip of the shitberg. Yiff in hell, kind regards, etc.
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>>10385742
>The fact that the Kero even exists shows that furfags need to police their community better.
is the community suppose to shoot him or something? They can't stop someone from existing.
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>>10381690

reminds me of carpet sample
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>>10385264
If you think furries wouldn't have an entire thread dedicated to laughing at bad fursuits if they were allowed to regularly take up space on a board you are drunk. shit, that's what half this thread is. there will be mean people in every community and an anonymous board is likely where they will be openly mean in public
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>>10381669
>appealing design

There isn't one. At the very best fursuits look like mascots, and you're going to wear yours neither in a stadium nor a theme park. The cartoony style people go for isn't cute or pretty either. You look weird, act weird, and in addition people can't identify you which alarms them further.
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>>10385759
>laughing at bad fursuits
you missed the point. this thread and cosplay threads will laugh at *bad* costumes. Ita threads laugh at any lolita who isn't a perfect 10/10, and not only laugh at them, but bully them for not being perfect.
I'm very deep in the cosplay, furry, and lolita communities. I've never met any furries bullied out of the community for anything unreasonable, maybe a handful have in the cosplay communities, and nearly every single lolita I've met have said they quit online comms, irl comms, or lolita all together because of bullying over some nonsense.
Everyone lolita meet I went to, there was drama involving someone, and it eventually went to me and I quit because it all became more stressful than fun. I've talked to SOO many lolitas with a similar experience.
The worst I ever see in the furry community is people being delusional about OC theft, thinking anyone who makes a character even remotely similar to theirs (I own the right to all pink dog fursonas!) is a thieve and should be bullied for it or whatever, but that usually never goes anywhere. At most its just one person annoying you saying you stole their OC.
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>>10381690
This is straight-up color-vomit, my eyes are burning just from having witnessed it. I did this to myself, I came to this thread seeking horrors and I found them.
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>>10385780
>You look weird, act weird
sooo... just like cosplayers and lolitas?
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>>10385825
No, not at all
https://news.avclub.com/the-insane-story-of-a-furry-convention-undone-by-its-de-1798264086
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>>10385494
rule 3 specifically applies to furry porn

>>10384106
>>10385054
furries aren't hated because people just like hating them, they're hated because they were a literal fucking scourge on internet communities until people started bullying them out. far worse than bronies ever got. the fetish argument hardly matters when they were basically known for massive yiff spam and the large overlap of their community with vore/inflation/diaper content. i don't think that every furry is a furry due to a fetish, but i think that most of the community is composed over hyper-permissive anti-antis. this isn't new; fandom being this way is likely the result of furries, not the other way around. not to mention that they used to treat themselves like a fucking oppressed class online and beg for asspats and social reparations for having a goddamn wolf icon.
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>>10385829
*of, not over
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I sincerely wish all furries would die.
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>>10385825
I know theres cosplayers and lolitas out there who wear diapers because convention centre toilets could ruin their outfit/cosplay.

Just as bad as diaper furries.
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>>10385887

Never heard of this happening to lolitas. Just ever.

>because the convention centre toilet could ruin their outfit

As if marinating in your own waste in a diaper wouldn't ruin your outfit and your day and make you smell disgusting.

Furries trying to pretend their presence and behavior is normal by making things up or usong gross ageplayers and sissies as reference is laughable.

Unless someone is genuinely incontinent, I highly doubt this is a common or serious thing.
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>>10385901
Also even if some ageplayer is in a comm and is doing gross things such as these, they are almost always shunned and kicked out, behaviour that people defending furries complained about earlier describing it as bullying. In lolita, if someone’s being a creep they get bullied because it gives normal lolitas bad rep, but furries welcome everyone and then wonder why they are hated.
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>>10385840
A lot of people think the same thing about lolitas.
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>>10385915

Fucking lol at furries pulling things out of their ass to pretend they're oppressed or wrongfully "bullied", when people hate them so mich for spreading their fetish and tacky fursuit designs across the internet indiscriminately and without consideration for others who find their shit gross.

A small handful are just shy people who like their art and designs and it's weird but not harmful. Every other furry I've had the displeasure of meeting is an annoying asshole with an abrasive personality and half the time they have problematic personalities and aren't as accepting as they pretend they are.

I'd probably draw non-sexual furry art if I was desperate money though.
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>>10385915
i dont agree with the person who you're replying to but who?
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>>10385921

Literally no one anon, they're just saying that to create false equivalence
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>>10385920
They should be oppressed. They should be bullied. Bullied and oppressed until they stop.
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Nobody gaf about furry community drama. This is a costuming board, post more actual costumes or go fight on /b/. Fursuits take a crazy amount of skill regardless of what debauchery does/doesn't go on in them and that's what we're talking about.
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>>10385798
Where the fuck do you live? I’ve literally never had this experience in lolita. I’ve experienced far more drama in the con circuit than in my random lolita comms
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>>10385825

No. Not like the cosplayers who dress up like known characters at a time nerd culture is widespread, or the lolitas who are regarded as a novelty unless they're fat or men. And this is the normie's perspective who hasn't heard about the orgies, the babyfurs or the guy who put his hands in dry ice to have them amputated.
I'm not trying to offend you here, so don't get defensive. I am giving you perspective.
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>>10385901
>Never heard of this happening to lolitas. Just ever.
I use to be friends with a dd/lg lolita. She even bought diapers when we went to target together once.

>Unless someone is genuinely incontinent, I highly doubt this is a common or serious thing.
well yea, furries wearing diapers at cons isn't normal either.

>>10385959
its my experience talking to lolitas locally, in other states at cons, and online. so everywhere, really.
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>>10385999
Well, okay I guess. I really only hear of actual drama mongers, efamous people (regardless of their personality) and the occasional socially anxious person who already assumed that would happen with these problems, but maybe I'm just missing it. In my experience, local comms tend to be almost painfully accepting and pretty lowkey. The one massive exception is con culture, but that is already highly dramatic in almost every community
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>>10385999
>friends with a ddlg lolita
>wonders why people are mean to the lolitas she knows
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>>10385999
>dd/lg lolita
So your friend is also a creep. She must've been open about her fetishes and been an ita because no one would "bully" her for dressing properly and keeping her sex life in her bedroom.
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>>10386020

A ddlg person is not a normal representation of the lolita community.

Furries on the other hand are often ageplayers and often have other fetishes and treat the world like they are bigots for not wanting you to talk about your fetishes and this behavior is common.
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>>10386022
anon, are you following the conversation?
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>>10386056
Yeah, some furry implied it was common for lolitas to wear diapers to not ruin their dresses which is a lie unless they're an outlier/ageplaying creep and someone used one of those outliers to imply that it's common for lolitas to do.

I meant to respond to the person who said they had a ddlg lolita friend but that's the part of the convo I think is ridiculous, someone trying to say lolitas all wear diapers because they had a fetishist friend who did once.
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>>10386002
"use to" be friends
I think I stopped talking to her by the time I started going to meets.

>>10386020
The opposite. she was quiet about it and kept it mostly to herself. Only brought it up to me because I mentioned I like lolita. But she liked the other side of lolita......

>>10386022
>Furries on the other hand are often ageplayers
???
Where are you getting this idea from?

>and often have other fetishes and treat the world like they are bigots for not wanting you to talk about your fetishes and this behavior is common.

Well yea, most people have fetishes, but no they don't all act like that regarding their fetishes.
I think the problem is you don't notice the good ones. Its confirmation bias. A lot of furries are quiet about being a furry because of the bullying. I sell basic furry ears and tails online and at cons and its not unusual at all for people to tell me to package their ears/tail purchase discretely because they don't want certain friends or family to know what they bought. And no, not buttplugs or whatever, just generic basic furry ears and tails.
I've been to 3 furry cons and I never experienced anything too weird or unusual. No more than a regular anime con at least. The only difference in atmosphere compared to an anime con is there were slightly more awkward people, but also slightly more nice people. I was expecting full cringe going to my first furry con, but there just wasn't any.
In my experience, the best people in the community are the fursuiters and crafters. Which is true for the cosplay community too, cosplayers and crafters are usually the best people.
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>>10386022
furry is not a fetish and neither is lolita. why is this hard to grasp.
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>>10386136
what the fuck is 'being a furry' other than the fetish aspect of it? having crippling social anxiety and wanting to wear a reject sonic OC suit isn't a lifestyle. i feel like the younger generation (you) doesn't understand that furries started out mainly as a way for degenerate men to express their fetishes in a safe, anonymous environment.
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Lolita’s need their own board so they can be salty cunts on their own. Ffs you don’t do anything but spend all your money on frilly dresses and make fun of each other.
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>>10386164
>lolitas
cosplayers don't want you here either you freaks.
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>>10386166
Cosplay and fursuits have some overlap though, they’re both costumes. Lolita is just a fashion full of bitchy cunts.

Lolita’s are literally the ones on /cgl/ that always reply to bait threads and act fucking retarded.
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>>10386169
you sound like you got kicked out of lolita for being too much of a faggot. furshit isn't the same as cosplay, period. it's closer to LARPshit. cosplay is at the very least trying to replicate a character or paying homage to a series you like. no one likes furries for reasons like >>10386141 it's a gross fetish at worst and an IRL VRchat skin at best, it has no place here or anywhere.
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>>10386170
Lolita’s are all salty cunts, so I guess if I was in the community I’d kicked out for just wearing the wrong shoes. Making fursuits and cosplay take so much skill. And many fursuits themselves are cosplay, pic related. So they very much belong here. If LARP threads are allowed then why not giant animal costumes too?
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>>10385601
Proper placement so the eyes actually look like they’re following you. Also if the eye already looks bad, making it a follow me won’t fix it. Personally I like 2D eyes more, they have more emotion to them and folllow me eyes are just creepy desu
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>>10386141
>what the fuck is 'being a furry' other than the fetish aspect of it?
similar as being an anime fan or cosplayers.

>>10386170
> furshit isn't the same as cosplay, period. it's closer to LARPshit.
Its a mix of both. It depends on the person. Plenty of furries who aren't into OCs very much and mostly into pokemon or whatever.

>it's a gross fetish at worst and an IRL VRchat skin at best, it has no place here or anywhere.
So is cosplay and lolita. Actually, everything is a fetish. rule 34, if it exists, there is porn of it.
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>>10386174
They are allowed here and if you’ve never been a lolita don’t provide feedback on our community.
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>>10386183
furry literally started out as porn, fag.
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>>10386188

AHAHAHAA wow furries are so butthurt that they'll never be able to be seen as anything other than the creepy fetishists that the majority of them are, huh?
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>>10386191
it's obvious some furfag itt got burned by lolitas at some point. she/he/they/it/whatever won't stfu about it and doesn't realize cosplayers don't like furfags either.
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>>10386183

Something starting out as a fetish is different than perverted people sexualizing something after the fact.

Lolita was never intended to be a fetish. Some creeps just get turned on by it because they're creeps. Furries BEGAN as porn and fetish stuff on their own.

And calling lolita an IRL VRchat skin is stupid; lolita is just clothes, not hiding your identity and not a costume or covering your face and all. Fashion and a costume are two different things. And a costume is different than a fursuit desu. People making a mascot costume as a cosplay even will always be different contextually to people who buy or make mascot costumes to "yiff" in.
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>>10386190
>started out as
>>10386198
>Furries BEGAN as

good for it? I don't see what it matters.
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>>10386185
> never been a lolita don’t provide feedback on our community
Then take it from someone who has been in lolita and other jfashions, as well as cosplays (but not a furry). I'd rather have productive furry threads where people actually discuss new designs, sewing tips, etc. than the usual lolita generals getting messed up 50 posts down again because of some fake drama.
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aren't all lolitas sissies
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>>10386207
it matters because it's obviously going to retain that stigma, and if you choose to willingly participate in something that is reasonably stigmatized, you need to grow the fuck up and accept that not everyone will like you/accept you. furries are always going to mainly be a community of fetishists, that won't change. the best thing you can do is accept it and personally separate yourself from that, rather than defend the community as a whole.
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>>10386213
Anon, I hate to break it to you, but times change. Being a weeb in 2000 used to get you bullied, being a weeb in 2020 means you're just a normie now (>>10384286). Furries aren't as hated on as they used to be anymore either, and though I wouldn't say they're a normal interest, the rise of nerdy cons as a topic of interest to the average person means that it's likely in a few years people won't really care if you're a furry anymore
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>>10386213
>the best thing you can do is accept it and personally separate yourself from that, rather than defend the community as a whole.
I don't accept bigotry from people. if you don't like that, maybe *you* should accept it and move on.
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Vented this out. I like furries in the sense of character design and craftsmanship(Check out the animatronic suits), but not for the sex/"This is the true me" aspect. I think Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Sonic the Hedgehog are the missing links between True yiff/Disney porn and Hyperrealistic half men half animal
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>>10386223
I LOVE the old Disney style desu. My dream suit would have the style as best as it could be replicated in 3D
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>>10386223
I have no interest in the furry community, but I appreciate suit as they are, costumes. At least, the well designed and constructed ones. I don't go to cons much but I frequently make outfits for renn fairs and I want to try making my own as a fantasy character costume. The ones that are realistic and look like they could be in a fantasy game are the ones I prefer.
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>>10386344
Hot damn that is beautiful
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>>10385920
>and aren't as accepting as they pretend they are.
Don't delude yourself into thinking that this isn't a problem with fandom in general. I see this kind of fake shit just as often at anime and comic cons. The difference is that they get away with it.
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>>10385946
Bullying doesn't change people. It just makes them more obnoxious.
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>>10386344
I've seen some pretty cool beastman outfits at LARPs, though its kinda funny when theres a group of realistic looking beastmen and a full on neon furry with them.
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>>10386507
A thousand times this. Is there a chance people change, yes. But 9 times out of 10, they will double down on the thing they’re being egged on
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I'm not a furry, but I really want to try one on.
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>>10386590

Be a theme park or fast food mascot?
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>>10386596
I do t even know if I'd like it, why would I get a job demanding that I wear one? Besides, aren't mascot suits different from fursuits?
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>>10386598

I am not a furry so idk. I was just making suggestions for a chance to try it on and wear one without having to buy one or make friends with furries.
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>>10386185
I've done enough spectating to know lolitas are insane
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>>10381669
>What are some tips for making an appealing design?
Don't make it that over convoluted, massive thighs, disney on edge lord, sergil shit. g2g.
ALSO
Not wear them at anime conventions. I don't think I have a bigger irk in my everything, at least con related anyway, than seeing fursuits at anime cons.

If you're gunna drop 100s of dollars on a costume, would it kill you folks to spend it on something anime? And I don't mean a cosplay for the hurrsona, like a cosplay for *you*, the human. It's an *anime* convention. There are literally *furry* conventions. idk what the mix up is.
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>>10386214
>>10386215
Not that Anon but, anons, I hate to break it to you but you're in a weird niche that's seen by people by and large as dog humpers, I know, I know, you're anthropomorphic dog humpers but that hasn't really changed.
>>10385780
>in addition people can't identify you which alarms them further.
This is probs my biggest thing. I know it's unreasonable but it's makes me feel weird when you've got some fursuitter at the mall hugging little kids and confused parents who probably assume it's from some show they haven't seen. Is it some normal person who just wants to hug kids at the mall in their fursona suit? Does that sentence begin to bring it home a little bit?
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>>10387775
>>10387775
>Not wear them at anime conventions.
Disney princesses, American vidya, capeshit, and Star Wars are ok, but furries aren't? If you've been to an *anime* con, you'd know that furries aren't the only group who cosplay shit that isn't anime.

Lots of people who go to cons are locals who just wear the same costume to every con. If you are more into furry than anime and are just going to chill with friends and waste a Saturday, it makes more sense to wear the thing you spent 1000s of dollars on instead of buying something new.

>that's seen by people by and large
Most people don't know wtf a furry even is.

> Is it some normal person who just wants to hug kids at the mall in their fursona suit?
Furries don't go to the mall just to hug kids. They go to hang out with other furries. Kids like cute mascot costumes, and they're going to want to hug you whether you like it ot not. You come off as more weird if you refuse them. It's not much different than people who cosplay Disney princesses outside of cons. No shit kids are going to come up to you.
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>>10387775
>Not being extra spicy and putting anime cosplay on your fursuit
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>>10387939
Unpopular opinion: wearing clothes over a fursuit or partial fursuit looks bad 95% of the time.

The only way I can see anime-cosplay-on-fursuit working out is if it's a small accessory like a crown or a necklace.
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>>10387930
>Disney princesses, American vidya, capeshit, and Star Wars
stopped reading here lol most people don't want that shit around either you delusional faggot
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>>10387979
O rly? Crowds of people block hallways to get pictures of them, so coulda fooled me.
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>>10386223
The second one is usually referred to as "kemono". It's my personal favourite.
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>>10387979
>most people
Imagine thinking weebs are more common than garden variety nerds.
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Has anyone done a good Beastars cosplay yet? I feel like it would be a dumpster fire most of the time since you would have to know how to make a good fursuit and also know how to sew.

>>10387930
you're a fucking dumbass for responding to that person. They feed on drama and arguments.
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>>10388116
google gave me this and I'm scared
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Even the official one for a play looks terrible. He looks too fluffy because the fur is too long and it's also quite thick.
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>>10387962
I feel like if you made an outfit for the suit, with in in mind, it would work better. At least better than shoving a lolita dress or normal clothes over an unrelated suit. Making a partial might work better.

>>10388116
I haven't watched it, but from what I've seen of the characters the proportions are a lot different than fursuits. The characters have small heads and are skinny so translating that to a suit would be more difficult.
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>>10385054
Imagine thinking lolitas are worse because they say mean things on the internet
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>>10388428
Imagine thinking furries are worse because of a single bad con 5 years ago.
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>>10388432
Bruh they are consistent and don't fucking wash their suits enough.

WASH YOUR SUITS.
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>>10385135
It is but they don't let in any new people unless you're friends with one
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>>10388432
Tell that to hotel venues.
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>>10388558
>>10388570
>"they are all like that"
>can only name one incident in the past decade
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>>10388432
>>10388606
Are you guys just masochists or do you just always need have to have the last word? You're ruining the thread. Post relevant shit or shut up
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>>10388244
It seems like most people who do cosplays tend to do a gijinka style since the characters have such human features like hands and skinny limbs. You could probably do something with flocking and prosthetics like here but it can look hideous if done wrong
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>>10388432
They are.
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What do people think of the head design of using a baseball cap instead of a balaclava? Beastcub personally makes her heads this way so glasses can be used, it's less claustrophobic, and you can flip the head off for a quick breather
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>>10390251
https://twitter.com/TheBeastcub/status/1009151623233298433?s=19

Here's her tweet explanation of how she does it. The brim appears to be cut.
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Another person showing they did it as well
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Fuck forgot my pic. Sorry for the multiple posts
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I wonder if we'll see "consumer" grade kits to build electronics into fursuit heads that can read your expression and move the mouth more naturally when you talk. Kinda like hollywood monster costume tier.
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>>10390338
That would be in like 10 years. The ability to do that with computers now has a lag and the expression reading is still very janky. Hollywood monster rigging is either cgi added later, sfx makeup, controlled off screen, or the suit wearer is controlling it.
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>>10388116
The art style really doesn't execute well irl.
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>>10386230

I FUCKING HATE YOU PEOPLE WHO ADOPT THAT AESTHETIC WITH A BURNING PASSION. It has a particular smile that inspires murder in me. Throat-biting, skull-crushing, murderous intent. You ridiculous, disturbing, infant-brained, bollock sniffers.
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>>10391184
Damn anon. Guess I’ll make a kemono style suit then
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>>10391239

Fffffffthank you.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrnDHCKit2w

Want to see something that'll give you nightmares and ruin Beastars for you?

Almost every fursuit don't dos
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>>10391239
You're fine. Do what you want. As long as it looks good, barely anyone will complain
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>>10391396
It's weird, I like the look of some fursuits in pictures but when the person inside starts moving, all I can see is a bunch of fabric moving around and not just a character
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>>10382969
To be fair this is more of a mascot-style suit but Western fursuits don’r even have that. Unless it’s a good realistic suit, Western suits can fall into a disappointing blah. There are standouts and it ultimately comes down to one’s taste, but imagine if more were made in a Disney park style
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>>10384106
They kept posting their terribly-drawn porn and got pissy when people told them to stop, then they took it as persecution and were discovered to be total lolcows. That and the underground sex criminals.
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>>10383413
Global rules were changed
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>>10392929
But Kemono suits aren’t all 100% perfect either. K-line is low-key notorious outside of furry weeb circles for their shoddy intern work, with baggy suits, popped seams, and an insistence with using short pile fur in every instance.
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>>10392929
I think it comes down to the overall proportions. Until recently, padding wasn't common on suits, and combined with the standard Western toony aesthetic, the look often drifted toward “sexytime dog head man” instead of “this is a cartoon character that jumped out of my TV”. It atill does often drift that way. It takes a lot of padding and big heads to pull off a great cartoon look and that’s expensive to commission. And many furries seem to prefer the animal pornstar look anyway
It also helps being short here, Kemono suiters are shorter Japanese guys/gals, and Disney park mascots, really most theme park mascots outside of a few characters, are short as well. Meanwhile, a tall twink in a kemono suit would look kinda creepy.
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I have little interest in furry and or being one but there's one design that just sticks with me. I think it's a mascot for a brand. But I'd honestly make one in this style.
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>>10392942
That's not a mascot, just Pizakopizza, also a guy btw.
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>>10392936
>K-line is low-key notorious outside of furry weeb circles for their shoddy intern work, with baggy suits, popped seams, and an insistence with using short pile fur in every instance.
Pretty much this, only ever since Rady didn't make the fursuits anymore tho but say anything negative and their whiteknights will try to harass you into suicide and it's getting even worse with the anime adaption paid by one of their rich supporters.
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>>10392948
And K-Line's Garasaki makes sure that all negative reviews and callouts disappear (like this one did).
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>>10392946
What does that have to do with liking the style?
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>>10392951
Nothing, just wanted to correct the info, but needed to mention that it's a guy because of the porn.
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Japanese fursuit style > American fursuit style

Prove me wrong you can't
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>>10393005
from a pure aesthetic look, yes, but american suits do have the advantage of better visibility and more airflow inside.
Japanese style require a lot more skill to make, so you'll see a lot higher % of good japanese suits than american suits because of that.
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This thread is so terrible. I'm nostalgic for the amazing fur threads we had two years ago. Progress pics, constructive criticism, maker recommendations. The quarantine summer has really killed the vibe of this board.
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>>10393026

>thread is terrible
>furry thread

I'm sorry anon but I don't know what made you think anything associated with furries would ever be anything but terrible.
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>>10391396
I'm not defending this at all, but that is a cheap halloween mask I've seen around for years, so at least this person didn't actually put effort in making something so hideous? Low effort and bad is better than high effort and still bad, IMO.
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>>10393060
Go back to 2009
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>>10381669
>unforunately, the fandom wanting to be as accepting as it is, refuse to tell people that their suits are creepy, ugly or whatever
I'll save you some time. Yes to all. You smell like death, you block the halls, and you frighten small children. Keep your yiffsuits at your furry containment cons. Don't infect anime/comic/gaming conventions with your filth.
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>>10393292
As opposed to pretty much every other form of cosplay you see at a con?

fursuits are a form of cosplay whether you like it or not anon
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>>10393026
Love the style of these suits, semi realistic and yet so vibrant and appealing

Also the what's the viability of 3d printing a fursuit head base? Is the plastic base good compared to a say, foam base?
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>>10393026
very lisa frank looking.
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>>10394630
Nuke Creations does a mix of 3d printed and foam heads. Their suits are some of my favorites.

As far as I understand a properly made plastic base can be just as resilient as foam. Not sure the maker, but there are 3d printed heads that come perforated so they breathe easier
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>>10394661
awesome, I'll look into that

Also does anyone here have any experience with morphsuits? What's the viability of sewing faux fur onto a morphsuit?
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Thoughts?
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>>10395338
not a furry, but this is one of the less uncanny 4 legged suits I've seen pictures of.
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>>10395338
That is nice and all but I'm getting back pains just by looking at that
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>>10381669
stop looking like a fucking sports mascot and stop wanting to fuck real animals you degenerates
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>>10396457
>stop looking like fucking sports mascots

hence why we have this thread for fursuit making tips to avoid that very thing
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Ina is objectively the cutest fursuit.
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>>10397870
I
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I've never seen a fursuit I truly wanted until today.
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>>10397897
https://twitter.com/kamesc2830/status/1254162371213324289
would pat and protecc. There's a specific name for this style, though the suits are from japan and cost the equivalent of 3,000 USD iirc. She's just so impossibly cute.
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The adjustable eyes are the coolest thing ever too.
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also apparently this exists.
https://twitter.com/4Bfox/status/1133711669916459008
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>>10397925
That video is cute. I have a human/lop eared bunny character, but never cared much for fusuits since 99% of the western fursuits are canine based. And the few rabbits I do see are very toony, looking like bugs bunny or trix the rabbit, which I hate.
The realistic one like pic related are neat though.
Rabbits have eyes on the side of their heads, not the front, so I kinda prefer that, but it must be very hard to see out of.
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>>10385026
Lolita do their best to kick the creeps out while furries are welcoming of the most degenerate of the degenerates.
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wish their were more smooth suits
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>>10385026
being a furry is literally a fetish> Lie to other all you like but you can only lie to yourself for so long.
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>>10399187
"Being a furry" is too broad to be a fetish. Having an avatar is such a common concept nowadays. What's hard to get about it?
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>>10399289

Having an avatar that's an anthropomorphized animal is really only common for furries (anime kemonomimi girls and furries aren't the same also)
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>>10397917
The name of the style is kemono
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>>10395576
A quadsuit is the word you're looking for.
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>>10383425
Surprisingly like the design especially the tongue gives it a bit of character, just not the colors or the bumps on the side
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>>10399117
these style of suits look uncanny as fuck as with many other overly cutesy kemono style suits
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>>10400409
no...kemono is just animal, dumbass.
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western fursuits is fucking creepy desu
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>>10408007
yeah and furry is just means fluffy dumbass. words have two meanings. the japanese community calls themselves and their suit style kemono
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>>10408007
In japanese, ケモノ has always been used for anthro characters, you won't find animals searching that.
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>>10408236
just the katakana. the romanized term (and the Japanese term) mean different things. it's not hard.
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>>10408238
You won't find any animals searching 獣 either because it's literally used for "beastmen".
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>>10408238
even the romanized term doesn't mean animal but anthro, just saying
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>>10393021
Oh ive met these two! They're so fucking nice
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>>10393026
How was the face painted ? With an airbrush ?
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Anyone have any tips for getting over a phobia of people in fursuits? It’s not just fursuits, it’s any sort of suit (think mascot suit, full-body halloween costume, that sort of thing) but of course you furry degens are everywhere and I want to stop having heart attacks once a day. What do
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where do I learn airbrush sorcery like this?

pic is a before
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>>10409780
and the after
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>>10409780
>>10409782
just get an airbrush? this shit is super basic and can be done really easily.
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>>10409780
>>10409782
just like >>10409790 said, just get an air brush and start experimenting, they’re just doing gradients with darker / lighter colors. If you have any art experience it’s easy, plus it’s kind of sloppy.
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Holy shit, I didn't expect this on here:

I'm in the works of becoming a fursuit maker. Holy shit this is hard but I'm willing to put in the work if it means I can make some nice cash from it. Yeah I'm a furry which sorta does help me in the long run so I know that I'm doing this with more love and care vs doing it ONLY for the money. But 1 fursuit can cost up to 1500, so why the fuck not.

What are some tips and tricks yall can help me with? Should I honestly do paws with a blanket stitch instead of on my machine?
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>>10411307
>Should I honestly do paws with a blanket stitch instead of on my machine?

you can't really sew paws on a sewing machine. I tried, but hand sewing them, at least around the fingers, will be the best option. I hated making paws, desu.
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>>10411307
>up to $1500
slap an 8x multiplier on that
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>>10411329
HOLY SHIT yeah, I figured that out the hard way too. Waste some decent fur. Thank God Joann's has a load of coupon

>>10411331
There's no way someone's gonna pay 12k for a suit. Maybe 4k
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>>10382998
I kinda feel bad for them.
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>>10382998
This is the kind of guy that's killing cats in his basement.
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>>10411333
>decent fur
>Joann's

get your fur online, retail stores rarely have good fur. I get mine from fabric.com
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>>10411407
>$86 for 3FT

Yeah I like that Joanns isn't asking an arm and a leg for this. And honestly if I build them well, line them well, and they don't fuck up, I honestly doubt any one will notice much unless they are a master Tailor
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>>10411409
>>$86 for 3FT
what fur are you looking at??
Even the nicer fur is only around $35 per yard. the regular luxury shag is in the $20 range https://www.fabric.com/buy/bu-291/shannon-faux-fur-luxury-shag-white
The quality is miles better than what jo-ann sells. Much more silky soft.
We almost all started out with fur we got from the local craft store, but we all migrate to buying online eventually.
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>>10411423
>35 per yd
That's fuckin insane. when I got my shit at Joanns, I get it almost 50% off if not higher constantly. Mostly cause of their app. Their furs, without coupon is that price alone. They are likely the same. It's like buying the same shirt at Hot Topic VS amazon. The only difference is that HT is going to ask you like 20 bucks when I could get it for 10 or 15 with an online coupon if not cheaper. Unless the fur is actually made stupid cheap, it's gonna be fine.
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>>10411426
>They are likely the same. It's like buying the same shirt at Hot Topic VS amazon. The only difference is that HT is going to ask you like 20 bucks when I could get it for 10 or 15 with an online coupon if not cheaper.
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>>10411442
>DK Effect
I'm not saying that in the slightest. I'm no expert but anyone who's ever been to Walmart and then gone over Von Maur and saw the same 2 shirts and acts like 1 is better, the only difference between the 2 is price tag and location. Unless you can prove to me why 1 is better than the other legitimately, and I mean with how soft it is, that's saying that a brillo pad vs sand-paper situation, you can't tell me you'd know the difference.

Basically, sewing the material together. If they act and feel the same way, there's no real way of saying what is and isn't better.
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>>10411444
Not that anon, but why don’t you just order samples from different places to find the best one? If you’re planning on selling suits then people will pay a lot more for quality fur
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>>10411448
Fair point. Broke right now so I'll do it when I get more money.
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>>10411444
>I'm no expert but
yea, you are kinda just proving my point even more here. I actually AM an expert, I've been selling furry merch for 5+ years and I can tell you that most of the fur you find at jo-ann fabric's and similar stores is very low quality. No professional fursuit maker uses fur from there, unless there is a special/unique pattern or something.
And yes, there is a significance difference cheap walmart shirts and higher priced shirts. It depends on the brand, but there is a huge difference between a $10 and $30+ t-shirt.
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>>10411461

>there's a difference between Von Maur and Walmart
LMAO no there isn't dude. I've literally seen the same shorts, same brand at both stores but Walmart was way cheaper. Why? Von Maur is a snotty store for people with money to burn. It's the same thing with people buying the NEWEST iPhone when they have a good one from last year.

You're another person on this board, prove that you are a 5+ year fursuit maker. Also, saying you've been making suits for 5 years means nothing really to anyone. I can say I've been cooking for 10 years, it doesn't make me good.
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kek
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>>10411465
>17K for a fursuit
Literally who? When I finally get it up and going, I'm not looking to make gold, I'm at best looking to make something that's not going full retard. Maybe 1 or 2 suits will be like that but I don't plan on going that direction
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>>10411466
have you even made a suit for yourself, dude?
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>>10411470
this. how do you plan on making these?
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>>10411464
>>10411466
God you are retarded. If you want to use fun fur then go ahead, but don’t be surprised when you can’t make a cheap buck off of furries because no one wants to buy your cheap shit.
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nah fuck it. I will find some place that's not filled with high-end assholes who don't do this for fun and love and only care about over the top high-end. Fuck you faggots.
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>>10411473
op's suit
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>>10411473
Your first question you said you were doing this for money desu
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>>10411473
it makes me happy to know there are "furries at heart" too, like lolita has.
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>>10386169
This unironically. Lolitas killed this board.
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>>10413366
>Lolitas killed this board.
Please, point me to a time when there was no lolita related posts, I can wait.
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>>10388244
I think the problem is that too many people are going the upholstery foam route which naturally produces much larger heads. Going with a more rigid material like resin or 3d printing filament would make the head look more like a natural extension of the body. In addition, instead of using the long pile fur used on most fursuits, people would be much better served shaving the fur down to about 1cm or even just forgoing the fur altogether in favor of another material. A matte stretch velvet would work very nicely for the arms and legs so that the body’s silhouette remains more accurate.
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>>10411426
They absolutely are not the same. I used Joann’s higher end fur for a Kindred fursuit when I was 17 because I had been saving up coupons and it was still my least favorite part of the whole costume. It was incredibly scratchy, shed horribly and a really disgusting plasticky sheen. If you were sufficiently close, you could even see the backing through the fur.
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>>10413367
You don’t have to come out of nowhere to ruin a board, anon. Lolita’s are like a disease that lies dormant in the host :)
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Looking at videos from older furry cons, there's quite a few people with puppets. Why did they fall out of fashion?
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>>10383425
except alebrijes dont look like total ass. The shitty fabrics they used don't even match Dante at all, so no, they don't get a pass. FOH
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like it or not, furfags come from a long legacy of sex weirdos-- doesn't mean there aren't furries that don't want to fuck dogs or each other and that genuinely just like the design, but they're by and large fucked over by that history behind them.lolitas at the very least are based on the punk scene, and then fetish weirdos wander into the fashion. With furry, it's engrained. cosplayers are 50% nerds 50% sluts, so it evens out Ultimately, you sound like a retard when you talk about gassing the furries like its 2011, but you sound even more moronic when you claim it's not a sex thing

>>10411426
imagine falling for the craft store scam of the 40-60% coupon. they mark up their shit to insane amounts and those coupons barely put it at level.
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>>10399117
Is...is that Jack?
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>>10413893
>imagine falling for the craft store scam of the 40-60% coupon. they mark up their shit to insane amounts and those coupons barely put it at level.
There are SOME items that aren't marked up much and the coupons work well, but yea, most of it I can find cheaper at walmart of amazon without needing to use coupons.
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All I could think of.
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>Fursuit thread up for well over a month that doesn't get instantly deleted.
>Somehow it completely passes me by.
Strange how life works out like that sometimes.
>>10396220
The front arms are on stilts, raising the front of the body, so the person's back is parallel to the ground. Unless you get back pain from crawling on your knees you'd be fine.
>>10413637
That puppet from what I remember was specifically for a puppet show that was held at Eurofurence by a German puppeteering group for a number of years. I don't think having puppets just out and about was ever a super common thing, but they would be cool to see as something to catch on. Even something like those arm-in-the-head body-wrapped-around-the-puppeteers with a fake arm ones you see sometimes would be cool to see.
https://youtu.be/8NnP2f1K_v0?t=240
Puppeteering in any context in a 'live on the floor' scenario that's not a full costume I think would either require the puppet to be silent, have the puppeteer have ventriloquist skills, or have someone else a few paces away radioing in lines, which the first one is kinda limiting as a intelligent 'character' wouldn't really be possible, and the other two are things that require a bit of live effort with the people involved, not something your average furry enthusiast has in them compared to throwing on a costume, maybe putting on a funny voice and calling it a day.
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I'm not much of a suit person, but I think Galia is really cute.
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What's the best way to do "hair" on a fursuit head? I've thought about buying a wig and sewing in pieces of the wig but i feel like that will easily tangle right? or does it work out fine if you brush it often?

I'm looking to do about shoulder length hair, few inches shorter than the example
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>>10420019
My suits wig goes to my waist. It matts up in long sessions since you're going to be moving a lot and fur + wig fibre causes friction. just take a break to the headless lounge every hour or two (you'll naturally do this anyway), brush it out while you cool off, and it'll be all good for the next hour or two. shoulder length will be more managable but don't slack in regular brushing.
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>>10420019
Do what the kigurumi do: Buy two, or three for a particularly big head, wigs and frankenstein them together to get enough coverage for the entire head, as one wig is scaled for a human head and won't be enough hair for a fursuit head. Otherwise like the other anon said, it's basic wig management like it would be for a normal wig.
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>>10420064
Has your wig worn out over time? I don't mind brushing it out few times a day but has your wig taken damage from how much you've worn it? I feel like that would happen
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>>10420638
It moults a lot but hasn't balded at all. I got a very dense wig from arda's if that helps at all. I think inevitably I will have to seam rip it out and sew it back in. I blanket stitch the back of the wig to the nape of the neck really secure, then put the wig on the head properly and ladder stitched it to the forehead and around the ears.
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Finding a fursuit maker that i want is impossible. I'll have to settle eventually but got damn
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So serious question, why are so many furries nazis? Just saw where a local con was run by several confirmed neonazi furries which is kind of mind-boggling.
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>>10427577
It's just another subgroup of furry fandom that most furries hate.
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>>10427577
I find a pattern of Nazis or folks who are strongly into politically beliefs to be fans of children's shows most often.
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>>10427577
>Just saw where a local con was run by several confirmed neonazi furries
its ok you can say it was the kentucky anthro society
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>>10427577
it's very much a white people hobby so it makes sense
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>>10427702
Probably due to autism and poor social skills. It was really strange how many nazi bronies there were, buy not too surprising.
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>>10428389
>nazi bronies
now that really is scary



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