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>tfw planned to wear nanchatte to trip to Japan and suddenly my mother buys a ticket as wellI had planned on going really cute since nanchatte in Japan is the one place you don't get looks and now it looks like dream crushed.
As someone who wore sailor uniforms because I went to a private school as a kid that had them, can someone explain the appeal if you didn’t wear that as a kid? Isn’t the appeal in Japan “nostalgia”?
>>10353424because weebsBut more seriously, a lot of Japanese folks say that they went to high schools that didn't have uniforms (they do exist) and feel as though they missed out on some part of fundamental high school experience. Same goes for people in Europe or North America where school uniforms aren't as common.For me personally, it's because my school uniform wasn't great so it's nice to wear some cute ones that I didn't get to as a teenager.
>>10353424>>10353432I wore uniforms in high school and like them more now that I’m not obligated to wear them. Because now I can style them cutely and experience an ‘idealized youth’ if that makes sense.
>>10353435>>10353432So.. LARPing as kids? That seems sketchy
>>10353424i was poor and went to public schools. so wearing uniforms is just something i missed out on and wanted to try.
is it weird to wear exact replicas of actual Japanese schools’ uniforms? some private high schools are famous for having cute ones, but I guess it’s borderline creepy>tfw just want to live through 3 years of high school as rich jk ojou-sama
>>10353424it's a clean, preppy, put-together look that exudes youthfulness and works on most body typesalso this >>10353441
>>10353445nope. also they don't look 100% like this.
>>10352275how are the styles worn throughout the 4 seasons? could someone make a 4-panel picture.much appreciation.
>>10353517stylized, but pretty close. I just don’t know where the “nanchatte” part begins and ends, I suppose.
>>10353424I've just liked uniform fashion since I was a kid. Went to school in a country which didn't have them, and I also just love idols. Its a nice way to wear a toned down jfash I guess? I'm just out of my teens so imo I don't feel that weird wearing them
>>10353424Us 'Muricans have school uniforms but they're ugly-ass khakis and polo shirts.Half of it is weeb and half of it is legit fashion. The whole idea of nanchatte is getting to experience the carefree life of youth again. Either you didn't appreciate your high school years when you had them, or you were bullied/generally had a bad time, etc. It's like getting to do a do-over as an adult. Some people even organize 'class trips' for nanchatte and everyone goes somewhere as a group to make friends and hang out. I know Disney is popular with them.Hell even a lot of high school girls admit that after school they change from their school uniform to another uniform that's more their style/cuter and just hang out like that with friends.
>>10353438Nobody is larping anything lol. You're not pretending to be a character, you're yourself in a fashion that resembles a uniform (just like lolita isn't cosplay). I still do all the same shit I would have in jeans and a hoodie. Run errands, grocery shop, go out with friends, go on dates. I even wore nanchatte to my super laid back office where I worked, and before that I wore it to classes in uni. And I emphasize "resembles a uniform" because nanchatte usually doesn't look exactly like actual uniform. The hemlines are shorter and more flattering in nanchatte (and by this I mean a little above the knee or mid thigh as opposed to right at the knee), you can incorporate bright or pastel colours, cute hair accessories, and make-up, which a lot of actual school in Japan forbid you to do. >>10353492also this. It's so versatile and it's flattering on almost anybody. Nanchatte lets me get my jfash fix without having to spend $100-300 on a garment bc it's much easier to get really nice looking components from Bodyline and taobao (which is a bit more challenging with lolita, my other jfash of choice).
>>10353424I may be wrong, but I noticed sometimes we overthink stuff like this, I have given up trying to find a common reason for the appeal and if there is, I find it's hard to grasp and generalise and not really conscious in the first place. In Japan seifuku is regarded as a nice style overall and being able to wear that kind of fashion outside school is a way to take something that already looks agreeable and make it look even cuter than school code. Serafuku elements are always present even in garments from all kind of brands and not necessarily J-fashion, even more basic ones. Think about how common it is to see sailor collars around. I guess the more positive outlook on uniforms also comes from preferring more feminine fashion - skirts, bows and all sort of socks are definitely more common and appreciated in J-fashion.
>>10353445I love this type of infographics for school uniforms. Translation?
>>10353592> high school girls changing to a cuter uniformCan confirm, my friend went to a private high school and loved borrowing my seifuku stuff because it was so much nicer than her uniform. (She often complained as her uniform was a polo+long beige skirt and she preferred the plaid patterns+bows) We dressed up and twinned a lot when we hung out just because we thought it was cute
>>10353445A lot of the Chinese nanchatte community are hoarding actual secondhand uniforms from Japanese schools (the cute ones at least), it's not seen as creepy there.
>>10354043holy crap! the chinese community. i totally didn’t even think of them despite the huge amount of nanchatte taobao stores. sorry for spoonfeeding, but do you maybe have any links or resources to peek into their discussions? i don’t understand enough to find them myself. i wonder how they get them if the cute high schools usually limit the sale and resale of their uniforms to actual students. getting one would be a dream come true. >>10353924it’s not that interesting, just kind of describes the aspects of the uniform in the drawing. >the winter uniform consists of a 3-button caramel blazer, a blue check skirt, details on the left side, summer style etc etc and some notable facts about the school history and alumni
>>10354112haha I can understand enough to follow the threads on weibo. It's true that high schools limit their sales to actual students, but the students do occasionally sell their stuff on fril, mercari, and yahoo auctions (also check out seifuku-ichiba). You just have to use the right keywords and sometimes the right shopping service :)Be warned though, the most popular uniforms go for thousands on the secondhand market. The one you posted above - Shinagawa joshi gakuen - probably goes for almost $2000USD+ a set these days (However you can pick up other cute, lesser known ones for pretty cheap)
>>10353424I really like pleated skirts, sailor collars, and bows in my normie fashion. So it's pretty stuff explanatory. I actually wish they weren't so heavily associated with uniforms.
>>10354114>Shinagawa joshi gakuenjust looked up the school, is there any reason why they go for so much? i'm guessing its the rose motif and due to the fact its from a private school..?
>>10354114It seems I’ve got a new motivator to brush up on my Chinese, haha. Thank you for the info. I’ve never checked out seifuku-ichiba, so I’ll be religiously stalking it. I’m not actually interested in Shinagawa’s uniform (I do have a few pieces of it), but Gakushuin girls. My holy grail! One day I’ll find it for less than 3k+...On another note, is the discord still around? I’ve been really getting back into the style lately.
>>10354124Actual seifukus are well constructed to last years of daily wear, so the uniform pieces cost hundreds to begin with. Add to that the prestigiousness and recognizability of these private schools’ designs (only enrolled students can buy) and their value holds and increases even when secondhand. A set can easily cost thousands.
>>10353424Something that could be an answer it that some female japanese student ( I'm not sure for guys ) wear they uniform for formal event like wedding or funeral, so it's appealing by it's classy aspect next to other jfashion.
>>10354126>On another note, is the discord still around?It's been quiet but it's still around. We may get more activity as the warmer weather comes back and people start getting out in nanchatte more often.Here is a link: https://discord.gg/hwcC2Knote that it expires in 24 hrs, a mod had asked before not to give out permanent invite links to discourage spammers and trolls from joining and rejoining, and I don't want to disrespect that request, so hopefully you see this before 24 hrs is up.
>>10354126I actually saw a Gakushuin girls set on yahoo auctions a few weeks ago! I'm sure it'll come up again. You're lucky you have a few pieces of the Shinagawa uniform, I never seem to catch it before someone else purchasing it.>>10354124I think people like the look + it's from a well known rich girl's school haha.
>>10354126Can I ask what is it about the Gakushuin girls' uniform that you like so much?
>>10354124Most private schools with uniforms are quite expensive per piece to start with and they encourage students to sell the uniform either back to the school or to another student as they don't like randoms wearing the uniforms (because they could be mistaken as students and give the school a bad reputation). So I imagine there may be rules against selling it to the general public and only some people are willing to risk it for the potential profit
I saw someone wearing a nanchatte cord at work today. She was really cute. If you're reading this hello.
Just cause I feel like starting a discussion, what are the reactions you get whilst wearing Nanchatte out and about? Best and worst reaction? I don't really have a worst, since I haven't worn it out that much, but my best was probably when I was eating ice cream with a friend and an older lady came up complimenting my skirt, telling me she used to wear skirts just like that and that she might just go home and dig them up again. Happy times
>>10358215I wore a nanchatte inspired outfit to Disney and Universal (Universal was more Harry Potter themed) once and got a mix of reactions.Best one was probably two cast members at Disney seeing my patterned tights and getting me to come over so they could show another cast member. Worst was definitely the cast member at a restaurant I went to who asked me who I was dressed up as. I told them I just wanted to look nice and she turned around and yelled back across the serving area to a male cast member "She said she just wanted to look nice!" I was pretty mortified.
>>10358239the restaurant thing sounds pretty weird?? Like yelling across all the tables is just rude, she could have just told him when she got back to him. Sorry that happened anon.
>>10358242It's maybe linked to the fact that you can't dress up like a cast character in disney parks so they where checking if she wasn't doing that ( still pretty weird )
>>10358322disney only cares if you dress really over the top anyway, that's why disneybounding is a thing. they definitely wouldn't have bothered her while she was busy paying for food either.
>>10358322It was my first time at Disney so when she asked I was super worried I'd be kicked out or something.>>10358425>>10358242I think she was just curious or the coworker was but yeah it was really off putting and awkward. The only other odd comment I got was another guest in Gaston's asking me if I was schoolgirl Ariel because I had strawberry blonde hair??
>>10354112>>10354114check out seifuku doncky as well! i bought a used uniform from there!
>>10353592>Some people even organize 'class trips' for nanchatteThis sounds so nice! I wish I would knew other nanchatte people near me, I would probably have the best luck at cons but I don't feel comfortable going to one anymore. >Never having "classmate" friends and going on a "school" trip together. Forever alone ;_;
>>10359383Actually does sound pretty fun. I know one year I tried to organize a little outing to a nearby museum at a convention but it didn't get much interest past the initial "omg that'd be so cool!" stage
>>10354126That's probably the ultimate Ojousama uniform. The school of elites from Yoko Ono to all the imperial princesses.
>>10359469I'd love to organize something like this, but there aren't really any j-fash people at all close to me other than a (from what I've seen and heard) sad lolita comm. No gyaru and especially no nanchatte wearers. I think I've heard of one other girl in my country who wears it once in a blue moon.
>>10359709For me I've made it more of my "I'm going on holiday where no one knows me, who cares what strangers think so I'll go around in nanchatte and look cute!" outfit. Every time I go somewhere now since I travel alone I always pack nanchatte.I'm headed to Tokyo in the Fall this year and planning to stop at Conami and pick up a coord to wear around as well, especially to the Disney parks.Dumping some Disney stuff from my inspo file.
>>10359725My first attempt at nanchatte was at Tokyo Disney! It wasn’t that good an outfit but I had so much fun and I didn’t feel strange wearing it. I saw lots of other people in nanchatte but I didn’t dare to talk to them, I think it would have been strange. Staff at the harajuku conomi store are really friendly! I really want to go back there the next time I travel to japan. It was super hard to find tho? Took us quite a while lol(Also thank you for the Disney dump, so good!)
any other kogyaru here?
>>10359733I'm going in October during Halloween so I figured that would be the best time without feeling strange over it since they'll allow guests to dress up every day.I'm headed to Harajuku for a few hours one day so I'll definitely look them up. I'm going to Bodyline as well just in case they have anything decent for a better price.And I got distracted by breakfast so I'll finish up the Disney dump.
Bodyline's nanchatte $5 items (including the mens uniform pants!) just restocked.>https://www.bodylinetokyo.co.jp/products/list.php?mode=search&category_id=1810
>>10359747Honestly I don't think most people care about what others wear at Disney, but its a really good place to try something out!I skipped out on bodyline since I was in Tokyo just after christmas and during new years, and it was incredibly crowded. Harajuku is a great place to get nanchatte stuff tho, I found a whole outfit in a random store on takeshita street and paris kids has some (albeit cheap quality) neckbows for a good price. I also found some really good short, loose socks in wego! Damn I miss Harajuku shopping
>>10359774I guess I've just got that secondhand cringe from when I see weebs go to Japan in costume or "harajuku fashion" and they stick out like a sore thumb in the middle of all these normally dressed people. I didn't originally plan to go to Harajuku but seagulls talked me into it saying it really wasn't something worth missing so I looked around and somehow ended up with all this.
>>10359781Harajuku really is worth it! The spots you have marked out are really good as well, if you’re in to sweet stuff I really recommend cafe Ron Ron. It can be hard to get in tho.Honestly I felt like I stuck out no matter if I wore western fashion or jfash. Being a tall European does that. In the end I guess we’re all just weebs, tho I didn’t react as badly to other westerners in japan as I do when I see them at home tho. Never gets old to see someone in a shirt with “Hentai” written on the chest whilst you’re working
>>10359784Ouch that's incredibly awkward. A bit like seeing the ahegao tracksuits people wear to conventions. I guess given between that and nanchatte, it's less weird to wear the latter.Oh! I found some videos from Tokyo Disney. It looks like this Japanese personality went around interviewing JK girls?>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz3RyKfI8A4I'm not quite sure what this count is they're doing. Actual JK versus nanchatte?
>>10359790Just checked some of the comments and apparently that's exactly what it is! They went around asking everyone in uniform basically if they were actual school students or nanchatte. This duo said they're nanchatte and one of them is actually 26!
>>10359793One last comment. Apparently out of 64 people interviewed, only 26 were actual school students.
>>10358239I've been on a couple VIP tours, and the guides have plaid uniforms which almost look like school uniforms. Maybe people thought you were trying you dress like one of them?>>10359781I totally agree. I visited Japan recently and was treated well despite not being Japanese, but I avoided Jfash and just tried to be polite by blending in. I saw two white women who were dressed in some ita coords at the Ghibli museum and just about died of second hand embarrassment.
>>10359819Pic related shows a castmember wearing the uniform with blazer
>>10359823Oh I wasn't dressed anything like that, not even similar colors. I didn't realize that was a thing they did though so I'll definitely remember for the future.
>>10359747I suggest to take a look to a shop called Kanko. They have shirts, bows, skirt and accessories. I went inside to search for one of those oversized cardigans and I bought one in cream. If I remember correctly, it should be near Cat Street.
>>10359835What's their website?
>>10359835I've been struggling to find the "popular" cardigan in that brown-ish color so I'll definitely check there.
>>10359836https://kanko-gakuseifuku.co.jp/shop/>>10359837On the site it seems like they don’t have it. I went there last November and I remember seeing that color too... They probably stock different colors during different seasons.
>>10352275Why would you wear a school uniform if you're over 18? Wouldn't it be cringe?
>>10359926Because it's just clothes? It's like asking why anyone over 18 would wear cosplay, lolita, goth, etc.You're not wearing it to try and sneak into a high school or something.
>>10359835Argh! I wish I knew about them sooner, won't be heading back to Japan until at least next year. Thanks for the heads up!>>10359823>>10359831There's a few preppy work uniforms in Disney if I remember correctly, but most are more vintage/retro styled than the average nanchatte outfit
>>10359837Uniqlo should have something similar?
>>10360577Didn't think about checking Uniqlo. Thanks!
>>10358239>>10359823>>10359831Male cast member here, Guest Relations & Main Street merchandise are the only ones to my knowledge that come close to the fashion, the rest is as the other anon said, mostly vintage/retro inspired given the themeing. Anyways, I made a post a few month back mentioning how I didn't care for ties. I added a plain black one and I was actually pretty pleased with it and was thinking about more plain colors. However as winter has ended what other suggestions are there other than a sweaters/vest? The summers here in FL make it rather unpractical.
>>10360807Sorry about your job right now.For summer if you don't like ties you can wear the standard short sleeve shirt and just give a pop of color by choosing a plaid pair of pants?
>>10360948I'm more alright with ties now so I'll probably just need to also get a tie bar when I order other colors. Amazon has a good selection of plaid pants but I just don't know what colors would be good other than grey. Also my job is fine lol. I'm unionized so the Mouse is paying me to just sit in my apartment and lounge around.
>>10360807I've heard of people wearing button ups with patterneed cuffs/collar area to "mimic" the tie for business casual, maybe that would be nice for an outfit?
>>10361013I don't know if you're just not keen on colour, but only grey? If you want something nanchatte, look at what colour girls have on their skirts and go from there - a dark blue or dark green plaid comes to mind to me right of the bat
>>10361041Would brown also be alright? I was specifically going to get Amazon's brand Goodthread but I'll take other suggestions.
>>10361126I think brown would be nice, personally. Especially when there are shades of a darker red in the mix (if plaid) I'm not exactly sure what trousers you're considering getting, as I only found jeans, but I might just be a bit lost lol
Some new nanchatte pics
>>10362064I love the footwear. I think what we're really lacking is alternative shoes to wear with nanchatte. I think most of us just only know about the Korean trend of wearing sports shoes but I really hate the loafers, I always get blisters from them, so it'd be nice to have other options.
>>10362136i get that, personally i love loafers and as a trashy kogal it really completes the look but they aren't the most comfortable.
>>10362136>>10362158I honestly feel like loafers are super comfortable, but it might be the shape of mine? Mine are more western-shaped and feel more like slippers imo. I don't love heels with nanchatte but thats just a personal opinion, as long as the colours don't stand out and grabs all the attention, I guess you can wear whatever you want. (But like crocs with kogal? Yes. Go hard. The trashier the better)
>>10354126>>10359685I was just browsing this thread out of curiosity and damn I love the look of these, you just redpilled me into liking nanchatte I guess
>>10362273kogal anon here. the ones i have are kind of tough leather, so it's probably that! i also totally want to buy neon pink crocs to wear with it (maybe some with those little charms you stick in the holes)
>>10362293The tough leather might be the problem, yeah. Honestly I just think mine are some cheap plastic material, I got them for cheap on asos. Mainly as a start out loafer but I haven't gotten around to getting more "appropriate" nanchatte styled ones.I really think those plastic gem charms you can put in crocs are really cute! I'd love to get the platform crocs to do kogal in, but they're super expensive (at least the last time I checked, yeah, even the knock-offs) and I feel like they must be so much easier to fall in than normal platforms.
The next International Nanchatte Day takes place next weekend on April 4th, is anyone participating?
>>10363530Oh really, I didn’t know. It might be some good inspiration for me to try something new.
>>10363530I might do something from home.
>>10363544It takes place mostly on instagram, hope you do participate! >>10363576Sounds like a good idea. I imagine most people will. Luckily my country is yet to go on a lockdown and I live on the countryside, so I hope to be able to get some nice pictures outside if the weather allows
>>10363530Oh! Where do people organize these events?
>>10363619The first one was about 6 months ago, so no public events have been held yet. Mostly people post photos using the internationalnanchatteday and ind hashtag. Right now might not be the best time to meet up in groups either way
>>10362136>alternative shoes to wear with nanchatte>I really hate the loafers, I always get blisters from them, so it'd be nice to have other optionsThere are always mary janes. They are a uniform shoe at a few schools still, but used to be the main school uniform shoe back in the 80s so have a retro Showa quality.
>>10362136plain (like all white) sneakers are also fine
>>10364205white colorway stan smiths work surprisingly well
working on a nanchatte zine for beginners. what would you tell a very beginner, or yourself when you started being interested in the fashion?
made huge progress on the guide. would love if you gulls could skim over and lmk any concrit, things you'd add, etc. https://docs.google.com/document/d/12FYBj-hskciP8MGwC-e5DjnoZpx_geGL5A8-EOLaE7c/edit?usp=sharingadditional questions:1. where do you find inspiration?2. any dyed hair inspo would be greatly appreciated :)
International Nanchatte Day is tomorrow( Saturday), in case someone hasn't heard yet
>>10365319If you want a bit of corollary for male nanchatte I can try and write something up. I'm still kind of finding my foothold in this fashion world, but I'd like to think I've got a few things figured out at least.
>>10367263Ended up forgetting and now I'm too stuck in quarantine blues to do anything. Maybe next year.
>>10367622That sucks, hope you feel better soon. There is one in September as well, hopefully you can join in then!
>>10364722Probably what's in >>10365319 would be useful for a zine. Are you the same anon who asked in the drawthread?
those are all me, the doc and zine are both mine! and yes :) >>10367532that would be great anon, thank youfor those who didn't see in the drawthread, the zine exists in blog form rn at https://nanchatte-tips.tumblr.com/
>>10367775ugh you're annoying.
>>10367780Oh boy, the first nanchatte comm drama.
>>10367794It's just crossboarders left over from april fools.
>>10367848That's a good one!!
>>10367848Oh wow that's really cute and comfy looking
>>10367775O! I like your work, the setup of the tumblr is very clean and the doc is nice.If you want to make a zine and boost interest, have you considered tagging some of the zine generals? It could help get more people to learn about the zine and fashion as well as interest applicants (plus making it a intro+fashion zine could be more popular)
>>10365319You should mention something about how Japanese sweatervests (and I think sweaters/cardigans as well) tend to have deeper necklines than Western ones. The purpose of it is (afaik) to show off a tie pattern better: With a Western sweatervest you only really get to see the knot at the top, but with a Japanese one you can see more of the tie blade as well.
>>10367794>>10367797no, she keeps posting this in every thread.
>>10367905thank you! that's a great idea :)>>10368009I'll make sure to mention that!
As someone that lives in a country where students wear uniforns, is it more or less weird to wear nanchatte outside?
>>10370502probably less weird because it sounds like a place where the public in general would dress up a little more. I live in an area without uniforms, and it's very "people of Walmart", so nanchatte would stick out. I think if you choose less standard, more vibrant colors and personalize it with fun accessories then it will look more like a fashion choice and less like an impersonation. Or the complete opposite, go for a more serious adult teacher preppy look. Or do what makes you happy.
>>10370502I want to be an eternal schoolgirl even if i'm 26 so I don't really care what others think about it. Its a fun fashion and rarely do they think you're from some specific school, even less in the west.
>>10370525same. though you get hit on if you live in asia, but some girls are in it for that.
>>10367848So, who are you?I liked that!
Has anyone noticed a major drop in pinterest quality? I used to be able to dig for hours for good stuff but now everything is awful and grainy
What do you guys think of this dress? Is it too costumey?https://syndromestore.com/collections/school-uniform-dresses/products/japanese-sweet-bow-tie-1-piece-school-uniform-dress
>>10376942I really like it, but not as much as nanchatte as I do general jfash. I think maybe if the colours were were a bit different, it would read a bit differently too. Maybe grey with a less satured red, or navy and white. The quality of construction will play a part too, idk how their quality is just from this photo.Another thing though, isn't Syndrome an expensive reseller? idk if I'd want to buy from there necessarily if that's the case, it might be cheaper to find the original taobao listing (and there would be customer reviews too).
>>10376973Thanks for your opinion! Yes, in hoping to find the source of this but I just haven't looked for it yet.
>>10376973Yes syndrome is a reseller that marks up a ton
>>10376942I'm agreeing with the other anons about the colours making it look a bit costume-y. Its cute tho, but maybe not for nanchatte.
>>10376942IDK, I like it. It reminds me of the uniforms from Kaguya-sama. Maybe if the pleats were a bit lower down it'd look less like a costume.
>>10376942it's cute, but yeah the pleats are placed weirdly and the colors are costumey. here's the storenvy listinghttps://perfectworld.storenvy.com/collections/654796-dress/products/29438797-new-cute-sailor-suit-dress
>>10376942Seconding >>10377285, it looks like an older uniform design.
>>10361126The Goodtread pants look good to me, I've been considering getting some myself to expand the number of pant options I have. Other ones from Amazon that are options are:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MUO5FAW/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007ZN5HQW/I have the first of those and it's worked well for me so far. I haven't bought the second because the first already fills the "brown plaid" niche for me, but it's an option if you like the pattern better.
I cant afford to spend money on clothes at the moment but what do you guys think of this? leaning more towards the kogal side of things i guess
>>10377536don't do kogal if you're not gyaru plz.
>>10377559Damn, didn't realize getting spraypainted orange was a prereq to wear loose socks
>>10377566not that anon but you really don't know what gyaru is do you
>>10377559gyaru is really cute to me, but i can honestly admit that I'm not hardcore enough to go all the way with the look! I like a toned down version on me.
>>10377566why the butthurt?>>10377573kogal is basically a toned down version of gal so do it up if that's what you want. anyway, i more so meant not to attempt the gyaru part if you don't have experience doing the makeup.
>>10377536It's cute! I'd only be uncertain about the shoes because irl they can sometimes look really clunky depending on the outfit
>>10377536I like the idea! Like the other anon said, maybe try out different shoes before you decide on what pair you want, this might make you look very bottom heavy, with the loose socks as well.I'm not in love with that skirt, it looks a bit cheap imo, but it might work with the cardigan over and the whole outfit together
>>10353445>>10354126Where do you find those infographics? Love the style!
>>10358215Worst was when I was traveling on a ferry in a remote part of Canada. I was sitting by myself and a group of teenaged Japanese on a school trip passed me by. One of the boys saw me, then yelled loudly to his friends "日本人ですか?!" (Is that a Japanese person?!) in a mocking tone and they all laughed.
>>10380339Aww just accept that you're a Japanophile
>>10358215>>10380339I am Canadian too. But I never get particularly bad reactions. As I am ethnically East Asian, people tend to think I am a generic fob or Chinese international student.I've actually seen a good number of Chinese international students wearing nanchatte, in fact.Have you guys ever met/seen other people wearing nanchatte while out and about?
>>10380413Only Chinese international students, and only once ever.As for >>10358215, there was one time where I wore it to a semiformal event I didn't care much for and someone who knows my sister asked her later "Was anon wearing a Japanese school uniform?" That's pretty much the extent to which I've gotten reactions ever.
>>10380339shoulda replied "no but you're an asshole" for a double whammy of you being knowing what they said + knowing they were talking shit about you when they thought you couldn't understand
>>10380339Sage for not contributing to the thread but, anon, this pic has me kekking.
>>10380339I've only gotten good reactions from japanese people in my country, then again, those have been older ladies. Teenagers are always rude I guess, no matter where they are from
>>10358215I’m Chinese American and went to a school with many international students, so I’ve gotten away with wearing it most of the time. One fun thing is that people will defer to Japanese school uniforms, even though other countries have similar styles (like Korea and Taiwan).
Got some new clothes.
>>10384745Roll your skirt up, ya look dumpy anon-chan! If ya want I'll show you how to do your hair cute too!!! Maybe you'll get a boyfriend then, huh?
>>10384745Your navy skirt looks terribly wrinkled. I'd switch out the shirt too, the collar's not really meshing well.
>>10384761It is wrinkled, yeah. I got it second-hand, so I will iron it but my iron is broken at the moment.
>>10384759it's obviously a joke. chill.
>>10384761The collar goes better with the left than the right, I'd say
>>10384745Unpopular opinion :* I think skirts below the knee are way cuter than skirts above the knee.*I don't actually know if it's an unpopular opinion or not, I just almost never see longer skirts in art or irl
>>10384745I don't like the shirt, but I like the idea of the left. The right's sweatervest is too light when you're so dark with the skirt and the socks. Do you have a navy blazer? that might look cute.
>>10385182To be honest, I put together the outfit on the left and then just threw on the remaining items to form the picture on the right. I just wanted to show all the items that I received in one picture.
>>10385184just take a flatlay of all of them together then otherwise you'll get crit.
>>10385186Oh well. I intended to wear the navy skirt with a sailor shirt that I'd already had but I actually like the blazer idea.
the egirl crowd has found nanchatte...
>>10391078i can't tell if you're a newfag or trolling or just stupid.
>>10385136> skirts below the knee are way cuter than skirts above the kneeSame. There’s something special about right under knee, especially for nostalgic one piece styles
>>10358215The worst reaction I had while in nanchatte was actually by a Japanese woman I had met for the first time that day in my country. She kept stressing how it is mostly a trend for teens except at Disneyland, where people get a pass for wearing whatever they want. It made me feel pretty cringe but I don't think that is the default opinion in Japan as the woman was a bit older and had the most boring clothes and face I have ever seen.
>>10391650anon, basic japanese woman are more kareny than the most kareny western karens ever.
Any brands with nice pastel cardigans for taller people? Everything from asian brands ends up being too short on me lenght-wise.
>>10391650Technically it is true about Disneyland but still, people can generally wear whatever they want.
>>10391650Eh, what she said was basically true of the average Japanese person. Just because their street fashion scene is wild doesn't mean most people partake in it. Yea nanchatte is pretty cringy to the average person, but who cares if you like it
Maybe some will like it, it's the firts sailor style uniform made for a japanese highschool
>>10384745I love the outfit on the right!
>>10403539i actually love these so much, thanks for posting!
What's the difference between Japanese nanchatte and Korean nanchatte? They seem kinda similar to me.
>>10407763The uniform styles are different. To me Korean nanchatte is a lot more sporty looking. For instance they rely more heavily on sneakers and those tube socks with the stripes. Japanese nanchatte is loafers and solid color socks
>>10407763I've been seeing more fitted jackets, and jackets with contrasting piping in kfash. Or maybe that's just the limited stuff I was from kdrama screencaps
tfw no nanchatte gf
>>10353418>I had planned on going really cute since nanchatte in Japan is the one place you don't get looks and now it looks like dream crushed.Nah do it anyways. Nan is toned down and why would any mom raise a fuss about wearing a skirt and dress top instead of jeans and a tshirt.
>>10362136>I think what we're really lacking is alternative shoes to wear with nanchatte.Sailor Moon's school shoes are on amazon. Look up the Christian Siriano shoes.
More sailor nanchatte? I think sailor collars are so cute I wish I could pull it off.
>>10411054She'd find it odd since I'm usually a tomboy. I'm going a second time though so I'll do it then.
Which skirt works? And what accessories can I ad to make this outfit better?
>>10413997The blue one looks better but I would ditch the bow. The fabric looks really cheap and costumey.
>>10413997red/black skirt is horrible and won't go with nanchatte, its better for punk imo. Blue skirt works, I agree with the other anon tho, you might want to invest in a new bow in a less shiny fabric. I'd advise you to use a roller on the vest to get all the dust?fur? of it. If you're planning on wearing those socks, then I'd advise you roll/scrunch them down to just above your ankles.Black or brown loafers and possibly one of those classic blue nylon schoolbags would work with this imo
>>10414301that skirt doesn't look punk at all newfag.
>>10414213>>10414301Thank you for the advice I'll look into getting a new ribbon.
>>10414393NTA but the ribbon is also fine. The ribbons in the OP pic and many other people's snaps are the same crap. Nachatte isn't a serious fashion or something. I can't take people like >>10414301 seriously when they say your ribbon is too shiny while they try to recommend cliches and tell you to wear gal socks.
>>10384745>>10384757>>10384759>>10384799Haha damn. I wish this site was like my alien app where I can up arrow a comment to the top so that everyone can follow this comment chain and feel for this poor anon.
>>10414314The pleats are all wrong and it looks like it came from H&M. I'm not saying its punk, but that it would work better for something punk styled. But go ahead, show me a black/red skirt that looks good in nanchatte and I'll change my mind :)
>>10414402You telling me the socks look GOOD that way?
>>10414570OP here, that skirt actually is from H&M haha
>>10414402I'm not picky as hell anon in >>10414301 but I think the tie is down to personal preference. I know when I see snaps with them (pic related) the first thing I see is the tie and it just looks off and cheap because of the material.
>>10414570and blackxred skirt for picky-as-fuck anon.
>>10414570You're stupid. Uniforms are just school colors. I personally know of a school that uses red and black plaid because the school color is red, and black is just a neutral color that pairs with it in plaid.
So this is my first try at nanchatte I just can't wait to get everything but did I do good? I usually wear lolita so I have no idea what I'm doing.
>>10415011It looks pretty cute to me in concept.
>>10414721You got me there, still doesn't look good imo but sure>>10414728nanchatte isn't catholic school uniforms anon, its supposed to look cute. And OP asked which skirt looked best with the rest of the outfit, which the red/black didn't.
>>10415011Looks cute anon! The bag isn't my personal cup of tea but I'm excited to see how it works!
>>10415118That's not to say that red x black can never be used, it just didn't work for that particular outfit. You would have to be new to think that red x black is some unfathomable color combination for school uniforms.
>>10415122its not unfathomable, but again, I don't think it looks good in nanchatte, especially not the H&M skirt OP posted. If you're new to nanchatte black/red is the last combo you should aim for with a skirt, cause honestly most red/black plaids look more like a sexy school girl costume, especially when doing nanchatte.idk why you all get angry about me telling someone not to use H&M skirts in nanchatte but go off I guess
>>10415125>idk why you all get angry about me telling someone not to use H&M skirts in nanchatte That's not what you said, though. You said red x black shouldn't be used, period. It really depends on how you style it. I've worn it without looking like a "sexy school girl" before.
>>10415129I didn't? please point out where I did. If you're thinking about my original reply to OP, I'm talking about their skirt in particular. Again, this combo is not something I'd recommend over all to beginners who don't know how to style nanchatte, its not IMPOSSIBLE to make it look good, but most people can't.
>>10415135Fair enough. Basically, you're kinda saying that a red/black skirt is to nanchatte what a black/white lace dress is to lolita. It's usually worn by ita noobs but an experienced person would know how to style it properly.
>>10415148Yup, exactly what I mean.>>10415154Still don't like it, especially with that blazer
idiot anon here that's interested in nanchatte and I was wondering what's the difference between nanchatte and kogal?
>>10415148that's not the case though at all.>>10415331kogyaru isn't a fashion it's was just how jk gyaru dressed at school but it's iconic now so people sometimes wear it but it's still gyaru. it's definitely the "lace monster" version of nanchatte stuff. idk why anons are defending kogyaru and bitching about red and black skirts.
>>10415157you have bad taste and are making up dumb rules. go back to your cookie cutter lolita shit, newfag.
>>10415359I'm sorry to break it to you anon but i'm not a lolitaspeaking of making up dumb rules;>kogyaru isn't a fashion it's was just how jk gyaru dressed at school but it's iconic now so people sometimes wear it but it's still gyaru. it's definitely the "lace monster" version of nanchattekogal is more of a sister style than anything. Since other anons want to use lolita as an example, nanchatte is lolita and kogal is otome? or switch it around idk
>>10415135>don't know how to style nanchatteNachatte is the easiest fashion on the board. It's only hard if you're a poorfag who can't afford jp brands. Everything you've said so far has been wrong, especially telling anon to wear gal socks and a generic early 2000s sports school bag from taobao. No one else in any of these threads has given a fuck about possibly looking costumey or cheap or ita from a red check skirt.
>>10415370This is wrong. Kogal is gal, school uniforms don't automatically make something not gal. It's super embarrassing to see people trying to look gal with the scrunched socks and no makeup. Not to mention that kogal is generally pretty heavily associated with school girl prostitution in Japan.
>>10415370most anons agree that your opinion is shit. and it's just an opinion, stop presenting it like it's a rule or something.
>>10415372Again, didn't tell anon to wear gal socks, but if they we're going to wear those socks I would scrunch them down, cause up they look like hospital socks my grandma would wear. Since you think brand is oh so high and mighty, those bags are literally sold by multiple jp brands. And trust me, I've been in these threads for years, people have always called out bad coords. sorry you can't take being told what looks wrong.>>10415373Do the hair and the makeup then, its not too bloody hard. jp school uniforms are heavily associated with porn and prostitution in the west, but is that stopping you from wearing it?>>10415377You're right, it is an opinion. I just wouldn't tell someone who has never styled nanchatte to use their ugly H&M skirt for nanchatte but if you want people looking trash instead of getting a good wardrobe than you can keep yapping.
>>10415393calm down damn. it's not even a serious fashion. most people look frumpy as hell in it.
>>10415504We don’t have to aim to look frumpy, but I’ll shut up now, don’t want the thread going to shit
How is it that there's always one spergy salt-chan to gatekeep and ruin shit?This is already a pretty tiny fashion in the West. So long as you're not wearing pic related there's no reason to be that fucking nitpicky.
>>10415331I kinda see kogal like an overlap between gyaru and nanchatte. And you can certainly take elements from kogal into nanchatte to varying degrees without going full gyaru with the nails and makeup and all. >>10413997I think this outfit definitely looks better with the second skirt. I'd need to see more of the other skirt before I pass judgement, the colour and pattern looks fine, the pleats and shape might be iffy. Also, use a razor or a fabric shaver on your vest to get rid of that pilling, it will look so much nicer.
>>10416339I disagree here. Kogyaru's main feature is that it's gyaru. There are still girls who wear kogyaru now because it's just wearing the gyaru makeup with your school uniform in a certain way. Even if you mean the stereotypical para-para 2000s style, if you're not gyaru, it's basically the same as any other uniform but with weird socks. Just because it has school uniforms doesn't make it nachatte, just like Lolita styled after seifuku isn't.
>>10416385>Just because it has school uniforms doesn't make it nachatteThat's literally the whole thing though. Nanchatte is dressing up in school uniform, that's the entire concept. Nanchatte means "just kidding!" (literal) and the terminology in this case means to play pretend in being a school student.If you want to be extremely picky, kogal isn't nanchatte only because most kogal were actual students. But if a kogal had graduated and still wore it, that's technically nanchatte. Literally this entire thing is just grown adults wearing school uniform. There's no rule as to what sort of school uniform/look applies so long as it's actual uniforms.
>>10416296um actually i prefer to go by picky-chan
I bought basic long loose socks when I went in japan and I'm a bit trown of by the fact that they are super white, how does people coord it in Japan ? I have seen it worn with equaly white shirt and beige cardigan by kogal but I don't know other way of making it fit in a coord.
Male here, a whole back I mentioned how I really didn't care for ties. I've gotten used to wearing them now though; my question is: are tie-bars out of the question? Summer in FL means a hard "No" on sweater vests and long sleeve shirts but I actually still prefer to have a tie on. Or is this just nitpicking at this point?
>>10422496Tie bars exude more of a British prep school look than nanchatte.
>>10422496I know of one school in Japan that has tie bars (and they are stupidly expensive on the secondhand market). So they're rare, but they do exist!
>>10422507>>10422663I already have a couple I ordered off Amazon for cheap. I got them just in case because I don't like my tie flailing around and if they were okay for nanchatte, I think they make the look a bit more formal/clean.
>>10422496>summer in FloridaI'd probably do a double-take if I saw a fellow nanchatte at the parks. I haven't done it in years aside from the Hogwarts outfits.
>>10422699thetiebar.com has good quality tie bars for cheap
>>10423385Ironically I work at Magic Kingdom. Because of that I visit the parks often, and most days (especially the dog days of summer) it's just jeans and a t-shirt cause I'm lazy, but the past year or so I've been trying to to do nanchatte in the cooler months, although most of my friends just think I'm being business casual and find it a bit weird.
Finally placed an order now that shipping has resumed to my country, hopefully it'll all get here before the weather turns cold again, since I got a bunch of summer stuff
>>10423535That's incredibly cool though! Summer in Florida is godawful so that's understandable but it's neat that you're doing nanchatte when possible. Your friends will likely just get used to it and stop seeing it as weird.
>>10354126Super late to the party and not sure if you'll see this haha, but which pieces of Shinagawa do you have? I have the winter top and maybe skirt (it's hard to identify navy skirts...) of Gakushuin girls :)
Bump so we don't die.
>>10354114I know this is super late as well but I just took a look at seifuku-ichiba and I am interested! Forgive me for my ignorance, does it work as any other auction site (e.g. ebay)? And they wouldn't mind shipping to e.g. Tenso rather than a real Japanese person?
>>10438184Nope they don't mind shipping to a forwarding address. The only thing you should watch for is that some sellers only take local bank transfers, so you'll need someone with a Japanese bank account to do that.
Anyone got any favorite Taobao shops?
>>10438597Here's a google file from the discord group: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bTj7ThJgvMf5WXOOuAsWOjXRXIy7TDW0-K4-ROXFqKs/edit?usp=sharing
I noticed Chinese girls refer to nanchatte as "JK." Any idea what that stands for?
>>10438898JK = joshi kousei = high school girl in Japanese.
>>10438898It is probably referencing JK girls who did the walking dates and stuff with kogyaru and schoolgirl stuff way back when I think? I think JK is also a Japanese term.
>>10438917nah, its just short for hs girl, as >>10438904 said
>>10438348Did you bid yourself and ship to a forwarding service or did you use a service that would bid for you?
>>10443111I bid myself. Using a service usually means extra $$
>>10443118Thank you :)
>always liked j fash>never researched anything about it though>bought a skirt, bow & socks at Conomi before moving back to Europe>had already bought two sukuba (elegant dark brown & sporty dark blue) from Nice Claup years ago>also bought a Meta school-style cardigan, second-hand>am almost 30>always felt kinda weird using several of those pieces together>find this thread tonight>it's an actual fucking thing>people around the world love it, it's a fashion style and it has a nameToday is a happy day. I hope I can get back to Japan next year, and work on some nice coords.I'm only familiar(-ish) with lolita. Are there any similar no-gos with nanchatte? I read this thread but that's about it. What about incorporating nanchatte elements into a more experimental style? I also got two oversized black sailor collar hoodie jackets I like wearing with the skirt and some chunky black boots, but obviously that's not looking like a school uniform at all anymore. What about 'casual' nanchatte, is that a thing? Open my eyes, seagulls, please>>10391650When I was living in Japan, a woman STOPPED me while I was on my bicycle, just to tell me that my sleeves and shorts are too short. It was summer, and I was melting in my skin. She felt like it was her duty to tell me that I shouldn't wear such short clothes, it's dangerous etc. A whole-ass lecture.I tower over Japanese women and most men, short clothes will always look even shorter on my body. It was super hot. The town was in the middle of nowhere, inaka land, absolutely nothing dangerous.So yeah, agree with >>10391653 - basic middle-aged+ Japanese women are extremely karen.
>>10443142To me the biggest thing is avoiding things that look cheap/cosplay-y/used for unsavory purposes. I follow a pretty rigid school uniform look, so I don't really have input on more casual nanchatte ^^" the most casual I go is a checked skirt + polo I think, but others might be more experimental.
>>10443142I'm over 30 and I still love the fashion so don't worry.
>>10443142as far as nanchatte goes, looking like a school uniform is kind of the whole point. If you deviate too much from that you might get a cute outfit but it won't read as nanchatte anymore. You could probably swap out some colours (for example, pastel skirts or cardis), OR add experimental pieces, but messing with either too much will just create a cute generic non-nanchatte outfit. That's just the way I interpret it tho - I don't think there is any sort of guide or generally agreed upon rules like there are in lolita. As far as casual nanchatte goes, what do you mean by casual? Using fewer fussy pieces (so forgoing a nice blazer and just wearing a shirt, collar open, etc.) or specifically casual looking or sporty looking? Cause both are a thing. You can wear running shoes/trainers with simple ankle/crew/knee high socks and a hoodie or sweatshirt, and it totally works. also I just turned 30 and I still like the fashion. I'm gonna enjoy it as much as I can as long as I can.
>>10438348You can use transferwise for bank transfer
wore this exact dress to a doctor appoinment once back in jan and a granny at the bus stop told me it reminded her of her own days as a student. apparently her own uniform was similari hope granny is doing ok these days
>>10447463well it does look a lot like some 1950s private school uniforms
jumperskirt uniforms are very comfy
i know the taobao shop list has some nanchette shops on it, but what are some of your guys fav shops?
>>10448355I'm a sucker for budget brand Hug Sunshine.
Should I buy the same coat (that I bought on Taobao) on Aliexpress? They are the same coats on photos, but they will be in same quality?I love this coat that I bought at Hug Sunshine but after a few years it gets frumpy, I want to buy same but now gray one.But I can't decide, I don't know if aliexpress one gonna be shittier.
really dumb question, but is it possible to do nanchatte with a beard without looking scummy/predatory? I'm growing mine out for the sake of a cosplay so I'm kind of looking for nanchatte subgenres I could still fit into. Maybe something more yankii-inspired?
>>10449246Youthful Japanese keep themselves clean-shaven so I can't imagine it suiting nanchatte at all. Just take a break.
>>10449246i would say try the yankii route, that could look pretty cool.one of the reasons you don't see japanese with facial hair is due to the fact that they simply cant grow a full beard/ facial hair.
>>10449246Yankii-inspired would probably suit best.
>>10392985>Any brands with nice pastel cardigans for taller people? Everything from asian brands ends up being too short on me lenght-wise.Maybe go for one that looks super oversized on the Japanese. Might end up fitting you like it's supposed to.
anyone know where to buy some loafers that can fit bigger feet (i'm size 9 US)? preferably on the cheap side but hey i'll take anything at this point