I haven't seen a thread about Kimono in a while. Is there anyone else who collects them or is interested in them?
I dabble a little bit. Formal kitsuke and advanced stuff (like seasonality and stuff) kind of intimidate me though. I'm already into too many things atm to justify spending much more money on kimono than I have to date, so my wardrobe will likely stay small. I currently own 2 yukata, around 4 other kimono, 5 obi and some accessories. I would like to, however, make sure I get some more stays and whatnot so the few kimono I own look nicer. I don't have an obi ita or an eri shin right now but I would like to make some. Oh, and I'd like to buy some haori so I can wear them with kimono or other fashion.
Recent Halloween-themed kimono coord, if you forgive the self-post.
>>10282881Source on that witch? Looks art noveau.
>>10282883It's an Arthur Rackham illustration - tons of great halloween themed stuff by him!
>>10282888Got it from Ichiroya. ngl, it's one of my favorite obi that I own now.
>>10282888Nice trips.For a second I thought it might've been Janaina Medeiros, know she's done a couple witches like that one. Probably influenced her. I'll check him out, thanks!
>>10282783I wear yukata on occasion, and wish I could wear it more outside of Japanese festivals. The second I'm outside of the festival everyone asks if I'm cosplaying.
>>10282783What beginner resources do you recommend? I’m looking to dabble in wafuku, specifically focused on Taisho Roman.
>>10282918https://www.ichiroya.com/ for buyingYou can find various articles online for what you actually need, generally you need a juban, obiage, obijime, obimakura, datejime, koshihimo and of course the actual kimono, along with a matching obi.
Do you have any twitter / insta to follow about kimonos?
>>10284598https://www.instagram.com/kimonoseikatsu/?hl=en I like this girl's kitsuke, specifically the comfy stuff, and hakama. If anyone knows other instas that mix kimono with western style clothing, or do more modern kitsuke, let me know cause I love that stuff. https://chayatsujikimono.wordpress.com/Not insta or twitter, but I found this blog pretty informative when doing research into how to wear kimono, she has a handful of youtube tutorials too.
>>10285379I'll chip in with what I follow :Statsia Matsumotohttps://mobile.twitter.com/inkimono1She's a kimono fashion student in japan and she opened a shop. She post regularly pics of her shoots so you can see quite a bit of variety.Suanohttps://mobile.twitter.com/kimonosunaoA kimono specialist that do youtube videos, in japanese.
I'm having trouble finding a kimono that speaks to me. I love vibrant colors but most are them are dull and mature. Anything that catches my eye is unwearable and vintage, should i give in and just buy a regular darker colored kimono?
>>10285883Nah, there must be something for you somehow.Can you give us an example of some colors schemes / combo you enjoy?
I bought a yukata when I went to Japan but I’ve never had the courage to wear it out.
>>10285379that first girl is so cringy. she looks like a nerdy tumblr sjw, and she wears stuff like minecraft themed kimonos that look like awful cosplays? I don't know if that's cultural appropriation but it's offensive to me
>>10290628To a con, yeah? What's wrong with that?
>>10290620Yukata are rather casual for anything other than some festivals. I've worn kimono out a few times, and started taking tea ceremony lessons though. It can be somewhat hard to find a balance but it's pretty fun.
Does anyone know of a discord for kimono or Japanese culture/fashion? I'm stumped.
This will be my first kimonoim really excited to finally get to wear one i bought most of the supplies i need but i forgot a thing or too but since its formal and i have fabric strips ill be okay until i can get the proper things.
>>10285965 see>>10306218I found one : ) it's probably not the most amazing thing ever but it was cheap and i found it really pretty.
My first kimono! I think I need to do some stuff to make it fit better but it all comes in time with practice. It's also just a bit uncomfortably long by a few inches but so far I'm in love!!!
i just got this baby. my city has a kimono dresser so i'll be going there to consult with her on accessories and stuff!
>>10312445forgot to mention that i'm 175cm so finding one that was long enough was annoying as fuck.
>>10312446super lucky!i hope to build my collection. I'm kinda the average for Asian sizing (but im not an Asian) And i still had an issue finding one i liked that was 60~ inches or so.
>>10312445That one's super pretty. I haven't worn any of mine in a while, but finding a local kimono dresser sounds like it'd be worth the time to do so.
>>10282783>or is interested in them?I do a little kitsuke occasionally.I usually make my own kimonos though. I'm tall and it's not worth the effort to try and find something that will work. Thankfully kimonos are fairly simple so I can whip one up in 3-4 days. I've made 5 at last count.I have plans for a nice dark one but I haven't found the right fabric yet.
>>10313252You *make* them?Like, how? Sewing kimono fabric is very difficult.
>>10315260Hand sewing them to perfection with what people tell you are the only fabrics to use is arduous and time consumingUsing a machine for most of it and properly weighted domestic cotton/linen or silks is not hard at all. (I only hand sew the eri in place) Sort of how some SCA folks insist it's not proper and authentic unless you make everything by hand from the underwear out. But some folks use a machine and get very comparable results with a little tweaking.
>>10317349nta, but enjoy your embarrassing cosplay tier garbage.
>>10317363Trust, I am.Enjoy your judging stuff you can't see. I got 20+ years of sewing so my shit looks good.
>>10317404I'm interested! You got any photos?
>>10319754Yes, but who the heck self posts on here?
>>10315260>>10319754There are books to sew yukata out of cotton fabric. Usually it's bundled together with jinbei patterns and sizes for the whole family.Just mentioning this if anons want to sew their own. pic related is ミシンで着物 (machine-made kimono) and geared more towards cute stuff.
Just gonna drop some of my favorite IG's to follow for wafuku inspo:shimaiyano_onechanvillage__officialmasaboshi1doublemaison
>>10328029>thinks yukata and kimono are the same>is bragging on /cgl/ about sewing but doesn't want to ""selfpost"" despite like 60% of threads being for selfpostingyou sound autistic and crazy and full of shit.
>>10328515....I'm not even that anon, anon... I was just providing book rec to those that want to sew. If they wanna do it the least I could do is point them to an actually authentic Japanese book rather than cosplay tutorials by some teen noobs.I'm also not the Japanese author who literally titled the book "[sewing] machine-made kimono".
>>10328515Uhh hate to tell you but hitoe kimono and yukata are indeed sewn the same way. Only difference being if you choose to reinforce the seat area or make a fold over collar. Otherwise construction is the same. Awase are different of course but you look like a judgemental dumb ass. Please stop and actually do some research before screeching at someone who's trying to be helpful you harpee.
>>10326657Literally scroll up, like the third post is a self-post, and the only pic in this whole thread even showing someone wearing a kimono outside of >>10328029
figured i'd dump some of my kimono folder stuff. It's mostly modern things. I think it's interesting to keep up with a fashion that is so different from what I typically see on the runway. Anyways dump incoming.
How to use a men's obi for women. I sometimes like how simple they are so this is a fun tip.
aaand that's the last from me tonight. I'm afraid these generally reflect my personal taste in more modern styles that are clean and simple for the most part. I can post more musubi tutorials later if that's of interest. I have a whole folder of those.
>>10333751Musubi tutorials would be great, all I can tie is taiko musubi and bunko musubi.
>>10335266Hopefully these links will work??? These are some ties specifically for hanhaba:https://tokyo135.exblog.jp/24520189/https://tokyo135.exblog.jp/24256663/https://tokyo135.exblog.jp/24998454/
>>10336103and here are a few for fancy fukuro
>>10335266https://youtu.be/IX_Q2C12sbUII like this musubi a whole lot. I found it when looking for one that doesn't require an obi makura
>>10336328End dump but just google:ポップ 着物原宿 着物
Remember you can only where the long draped sleeves if you're a maiden.
>>10336331You man furisode? They're usually for young girls 20ish and up right?
>>10336331>>10336369More like for 30-ish and younger.Although as a reminder the imperial kimono dresser once caused a stir putting Reese Whiterspoon in a furisode when she was already 30+. So personally I'd say the rules are like sweet lolita, if you look like you can get away with it just go for it.
>>10336466>>10336369>>10336331those rules are for specific time periods.
>>10336503nah them's is still the "traditional" rules. that being said no one is going to enforce them for the most part, just give you some side eye if you're in Japan... outside of Japan? Most people don't even know the rules exist.
>>10336553No it's not. It's still used for coming of age day but modern kimono anything goes.https://japanese-kimono.net/furisode-kimono/>It was attractive that young unmarried women waved their long sleeves. But, it was shameful that married women wore a kimono for expressions of love, because people considered them a flirt. Because of the holdover, people have been recognized that a furisode is only for young unmarried women even now in Japan.However, that rule is getting lax recently, and more married women are wearing a Frisode at celebrations. Needless to say, though it is not recomended, modern people are reconsidering that it is good to make more chances to wear a Furisode.
>>10338526>Needless to say, though it is not recomended, modern people are reconsidering that it is good to make more chances to wear a Furisode.That's kind of nice. Since the prevalence of kimono is declining all around, it's expensive, and difficult to put on, it's nice that people can take advantage of more opportunities to wear it.A friend of mine expressed this sentiment and I feel the same - she has an extensive kimono collection, but didn't get into it until after married, and she is well past 30, and it made her sad she missed her opportunity to try wearing furisode. But an instructor told her she should just get one if she loves kitsuke this much and a furisode would make her happy.
Forgive the self-post, but I was playing around with kimono dressing using this Taisho-era one. Not sure the obi goes with it, but also don't know if a gold or silver one would have worked better. Not that I'd ever wear this one out, it's too fancy.
>>10345288obi is good, rule of thumb with obi is that you pick contrasting color or one that's in the print, or have it have the same kind of print on it. it shouldn't be matchy-matchy color wise, but it's hard to make it not look like crap. you really need hakama tho to tie it together!
>>10336331Or a enka singer ( obviously it's even more specific )
>>10345449good thing i can sing enka~
anyone got some good ichiroya eye candy they wanna share? I promise I'm too tall to even look at your listings with any intent to buy, but I do love to see what people's tastes are :)
>>10345449>enkaI had no idea enka singers did this. Thanks for the knowledge.
>>10312444You should fold it over the strips you tie it with under the obi to shorten it when worn - kimono are usually a standard length rather than customised because the length is customised when donning.
I'm pretty fat. My hips measure in at forty cm (I can feel the bone just under my skin, so that's never getting smaller) and my actual thighs come in at forty three when put together. I can't tell if ichiroya kimono will fit me. I'm guessing not, but what's the number to look for when looming for kimono? How much bigger should the waist measurement be than your body to allow you to walk and move without flashing everyone?
>>10357324Do you mean 40 cm as a flat measurement? Or 40 inches all the way around? I don't understand these measurements, if you can clarify I could compare and help you...you should be measuring your hips all the way around because how flat or round your butt is will change whether the kimono can fit or not. Also, some kimono will be larger than others. You usually size kimono by your height, and then buy the appropriate length, although you can wear a too short kimono without an ohashori (the fold under the obi) or fashionably above your ankles, and for a too long kimono fold a deeper ohashori. There isn't really such a thing as a waist or hip measurement for a kimono, since the garment is so rectangular. If your kimono won't close at the hips but closes ok at the top you could always wear with a hakama as well. (for komon at least) Lastly, it is possible to modify kimono. I have a friend who is tallish and plus size (I think she's like 5'10?) and she takes the kimono apart at the sides and puts it back together using smaller seams. That gives her enough leeway for the kimono to close properly. She usually buys vintage kimono from sou_japan and Ichiroya. I don't recommend modifying it yourself unless you have some experience with sewing already though.
>>10357401I meant 40 inches all the way around, but at my absolute widest around my thigh and butt area its 43 inches all the way around. I'm 5'3 so most if not all kimono should fit on me; I'm not too worried about height.I'm actually looking at furisode. I had one but foolishly gave it away. They recipient doesn't care much about it but i feel too awkward to ask for it back. So I'm just replacing it and taking the chance to find a nicer color than bright orange. I'll keep the hakama suggestion in mind, though.I don't have the confidence to modify kimono. It's intimidating to start changing around things on something you care about.
>>10357432My hip measurement at its widest point is 42", and I have never had any issues with kimono fitting all the way around. Have accidentally bid on a few that were a tad too short (I am 5'5'). So just from my experience it should be fine.
>>10282783I have a collection but don't wear them, too self-conscious about my hips. My bmi is only 18 but I'm still not the right bodytype for kimono. Going to sell the one where I'm not in love with the fabric, and going to turn the ones that I do love in into meta-inspired wa dresses/skirts. Which means getting a lot better at sewing. Starting with the cotton yukata and wool kimono, will move on to silk once I feel confident.
>>10285883No, don't buy something you don't love. Have you been to Japan? There's loads of second hand stores with loads of different colors. With yukata it is even more extreme, there's yukata with the craziest prints.
>>10315260Sewing a cotton yukata is pretty easy if you have a tutorial. I made two entirely by hand, and it's time consuming but a relative beginner/low intermediate can do it. Except for the collar, most of it is straight pieces. Kimono has the same basic shape, but working with silk is probably harder, especially if you want to work in a lining.Warning about antique kimono: many of them have bright red linings that bleed like a mofo, you can get them dirt cheap in recycle shops away from tourist attractions, I've found some for 500 yen, but be careful not to ruin them by washing.
>>10328515You got way too much sand in your vag or between your bollock wrinkles to offer anything to this thread. Anon literally posted a Japanese instruction manual.
>>10335266If anyone is interested in contemporary how-to-wear, the mook Kimono Hime always has a couple tutorials on how to make/wear. You can find a bunch second hand on amazon.
>>10357668>>10357665>>10357664Can you fucking read timestamps??
>>10357665you can't wash silk in the washer anyway...
>>10357662>I'm still not the right bodytype for kimonoAnon that's fucking stupid. There is no kimono bodyshape. You're supposed to look like a cylinder, because the kimono and the straight lines are what matters, not what's under it. PAD your body. PAD PAD PAD. Flatten your titties, pad your waist and back, and boom, right body shape. You might end up wearing like five towels when you're done, but you can still wear your stuff. You can also customize a camisole/tank by sewing padding into it directly, so you can avoid the hassle of making sure everything is tied snugly when you get dressed.
I'm still learning but today I pulled off a good collar! I took some advice and I feel like things are starting to make sense. Practice practice practice.
>>10357686You can actually, this dude is doing it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVuWTzDYhdAMight have to stick to the ones with even coloring, and not the hand painted ones.
>>10357677Yeah, those anons have probably long left the board and have died from corona chan by now.
>>10359722It looks very nice! I'm just now reading this thread, so if you said it earlier and I missed it, my apologies. Did you also make the undergarment? What material is this?
Does anyone know where I can buy ladies hakama online?
>>10365924ichiroya or ebay, senpai
>>10365925Ichiroya didn't seem to have ladies ones, will try eBay.
>>10365924>>10365934Also thank you, forgot to say that...
>>10365924buy on japanese sites. ebay is going to be more expensive, even with SS fees. also never ever use ichiroya for anything. all those prices are inflated for ugly kimono.
>>10366123What sites would you recommend? I'm still fairly newb to kimono!
>>10366330even though you're trying to find a hakama Don't listen to the above anon, you just need to lurk for awhile on Ichiroya. Less than a week and you'll find gold, my kimono was near flawless and under 20$. It's not inflated and you'd have to be stupid to spend more than 30
>>10367052yahoo auction is very good, or places like fril or even rakuten 2nd hand. are you wanting to buy hakama for everyday or like the style with kofurisode? you can interchange, but kofurisode are the ones that are worn to graduation ceremony, so the term will be useful when looking for the embroidered or fancier hakama!don't listen to >>10367052 ichiroya literally buys off japanese auction sites and bumps up prices, everyone has known that. also the kimono on ichiroya are really overpriced for what they are even for what anon claimed, many of those can be bought for 1000 yen (about $10 USD) each on japanese auction sites.
>>10367052Kek. Why are you shilling Ichiroya? Do you not know how to use shopping services??
>>10365924>>10366123I was gonna say, I buy nearly everything vintage fro sou_japan on Ebay and as long as you're good at sniping or manage to bid on something other people don't want you end up with kimono for $1.00 + like $3.00 shipping. Sometimes this happens with brand new obi too. But I have never ever seen them carry ladies' hakama unfortunately. I have a friend that used to swear by Ichiroya, but no longer shops there bc they got too expensive. I think they used to do blind lots of mild to moderately damaged kimono; she got a box of like 30 of them for around $100. They don't do that anymore though. I have never bought kimono off of Japanese auction sites but I have bought lolita and it's always been a really smooth and seamless experience. If the same pattern of pricing applies, I'm sure you can find a ton of stuff dirt cheap.
>>10367160it definitely is about the same as shopping for lolita, tons of auctions for 1 yen that don't end up getting sold. i actually had a friend have a similar experience with ichiroya. they were viable when accessing japanese shops was more difficult, but now they're just too expensive.
>>10367160Is there any more good shops like that? Maybe with newer type kimono?
>>10367621sou_japan sells new kimono sometimes, but it tends to be way more expensive than their auctions. And other than that, not that I know of...if you want to buy anything other than a yukata, and you want it to be well made and not a polyester tourist luring nightmare, it would cost you hundreds from the price tags I've seen on ebay. Now for used kimono, I would think auctions are the way to go, see a few posts above for examples.
I just got a new kimono and hanhaba obi.I'm really nervous because I'm still very new to this and this would be my 2nd for both. My tastes seem very vintage compared to everyone I've seen on social media. Mostly I mean, my taste in patterns and such, I love the longer sleeves.
I love some of the patterns sold here https://www.wafukan-ichi.jpPicked up a flyer from them when I was in japan and it has some really nice modern looking stuff.
>>10370590as long as you are aware it's vintage, you will look fine. what looks bad in vintage is mixing it with super modern looks, making both aspects look out of place.anyone else find themselves wanting to buy more now during the quarantine? i just want cute kimono to dress up in while i drink tea all day.
>>10371281I don't think i'll ever really buy modern kimono items, the vintage charm of the ones i like are honestly perfect and I find them a lot easier/cheaper to buy even.I totally want to buy so much during this time. I'd love to take walks out in a cute kimono and not have to worry about 50 people staring at me
hi guys >>10312445 here. anyone interested in buying this furisode off me? i wore it once and i'm not as fond of the silver as i thought. make an offer if you want.
>>10372002BST might get more bites >>10353968Where are you shipping it from? I like it, but I also have a feeling you're halfway across the world from me and I don't like it enough to ship that back and forth.
>>10372354i'm in USA, I'll repost there, just wanted to post ITT first.
>>10372474Yeah, too far. Good luck on your sales anon!
Hi all! What type of obi would be best for pic related? It's an unlined summer kimono. I plan to wear it pretty casually, like out to dinner or just on dates.
>>10374568A hanhaba for a more casual look, and a nagoya obi if you want to be more dressed up. You can actually find summer obi that are made of a looser weave, so they feel cooler on your body when you wear them. And summer juban and obi ita as well.
>>10374583Thanks for the tips! This will be my first summer kimono.
What is some of your recent buys guys? I passed up an oppurtuinity for an iromuji but I'm happy that I'm getting a taisho era instead
>>10377173I'm >>10374568 anon and I just bought that and other summer accessories! I've previously only worn yukata during the summer so I am really excited. I have to wear T size so my options are pretty limited unfortunately.I love the look of iromuji! By taisho era, do you mean like a meisen? What is the print?
>>10379192By taisho I meant its dated taisho era but nothing like meisan just a standard dye and whatnot, It's shochikubai patterned and it's in superb condition. I'm only 5'4 so I am very good height for kimono. I do far haven't had issues with wingspan either but I expect to run into it at sometime. I'd love a hitoe or a yukata for summer since Florida is Florida, just haven't found the one I want yet desu!
>>10381144That sounds super pretty! I'm never going to fit into anything earlier than like 70s or so unless I forgo my ohashori. I have a few yukata but this is my first real hitoe. I just got it today and the obi i chose for it matches really well! I can't wait till after the quarantine I want to wear it out somewhere soon. Florida sounds rough for regular lined kimono tho.
>>10367052>>10367064>>10367160Really belated, but thanks peeps, appreciate the hakama help!
>>10383227You're welcome! Did you find something nice? I know graduation is coming up soon and girls tend to wear hakama to those so you should have had/have your pick of the litter right now.
>>10383660Not yet lol, the longer the pandemic goes on the more I have to watch my pennies so can't buy right now after all.
Sou said shipping may take up to 4+ monthsShould we actually believe this?? Seeing how Japan and rest of countries are opening up more and more I don't really think it should be taking 4 months.
>>10387113Bit of a late reply but yes. Japan Post put up an announcement on their website. They have a 4 month backlog to get through for EMS because there isn't enough planes leaving the country.I haven't checked sou recently but my friend said they still ship to Canada but not to the US. I was hoping they would because I was under the impression they used Yamato Transport which is a courier, but I guess not.
>>10392921That really sucks for me. I was super excited to get this kimono as my 2nd since I'm still new. I understand that it's for safety and out of their control but wow it really does feel bad to have to wait.
>>10392921I'm not sure what this exactly means or if my package was simply just lucky but I ordered on April 4th and it's made its way to America on May 20th. Late, but certainly not incredibly stressing. My other package however ordered April 8th hasn't made its way so I believe I just got lucky with my first packable but heard on immortal geisha that their packages from sou have been coming despite ordering after cutoff
>>10398713doesn't sou have a different shipping option other than EMS? SAL maybe?
>>10396239Same anon, I feel you. I still browse once in a while but it's too sad to put down any bids lol.>>10398713I think your package may have gotten lucky! I forget what the cutoff date was for Japan Post holding packages. >>10398759Everything I have ever ordered from them has come via EMS. But SAL is through Japan post too, isn't it? Would going SAL solve the problem then? They would have to ship it through a private courier instead, I think.
I bought this piece of cloth when I was in japan and I don't really know for what it is used, I assumed it was a scarf but I really don't know. It's a non stretch fabric with shirred parts.
>>10408068Looks like an obi-age.
RIP ichiroyamaybe that's what happens when you make things incredibly pricey
>>10408068this is a furisode obiage like >>10408073 said. it's basically only for furisode (those long sleeved kimono for young women). in the pic it's the part right above the obi.
>>10410448>Our business environment has changed dramatically in recent years. Impact of self-restraint due to the Coronavirus is one of the reasons, but even without it, our company's business was starting to decline in the way we do business.No shit Once people could buy from japan they realized they were being railroaded. I used to like ichiroya until I found out that they were charging so much more than buying straight from Japan, even with shipping. I know it's how businesses work, but these aren't new products or something, the items have their own market it's hard to not see it as scalping.
>>10408073>>10410449Thank you very much ! I never thought shirred fabric would be paired with furisode, it give such a great effect.
>>10410452Agree! Their shipping is honestly ridiculous for what you're getting. Many if their items are super flawed.
>>10413769i noticed this too. their grading system is pretty bad. they often give really flawed or poor condition items a good rating just because it's an expensive piece.
>>10413821I beileve this is maybe just due to their shoddy english skills. Many words might make it seem just plain bad and they think it could hurt their business. There is some pieces that i could maybe justify 25$ for (that includes the ridiculous 12 shipping) but in reality i would be more than happy spending 12$ with shipping on Sou or some other auction site. Ichiroya is just more approachable to people i guess
>>10414499I don't really think so. Japanese 2nd hand sites use letter grading systems that would be easy for them to use too. Most are very generous and will rarely call anything but unused untouched items an A. Ichiroya tended to be the opposite.
>>10414505you're right my bad i forgot about the letter grading systems some sites have.
>>10414509I understand why you said that though. I just think that we all either wanted to like or did in fact like Ichiroya at some point. It just sucks that they ruined themselves.
Does anyone know a tutorial on how to make a kantan eri? im cheap i dont want to buy one
>>10422987>cheapthey're $10 or less...
I recently bought this, any obi advice anons? I've been thinking something plainer, like black or deep red. Unsure on pattern.
>>10435866Dark red would look great with that. I love the color and pattern on it and a plain obi would make the design pop more.
>>10435866i'd do like a dark red or forest green and then use the other color for the obijime or black. use a geometric patterned obi, i think a larger pattern will look nicest.
>>10435879>>10435892Thanks guys, I'll keep looking out for a dark red obi. I can't find any in Europe (not going to order outside of Europe for a few months due to shipping) that are deep enough, most are orangey red. I like the idea of a large geometric pattern. I'll now keep an eye out for a black/ white large geometric pattern too.