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Has been a while since the last thread and with the new collections dropping right and left, it's about time for a new thread.

Useful (Active) Links:
>JP Newssite - http://www.lafary.net/
>Shoplist - http://fairy-tips.tumblr.com/shops
>Brand Updates - http://yumekawa-updates.tumblr.com/
>What is Yumekawaii (feat. Spank!) - http://tokyogirlsupdate.com/yume-kawaii-girls-20150855504.html

If you want to see the latest jp coords, indie brand releases or need general inspo,make sure to check out Twitter's ゆめかわいい hashtag.
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New Conpeitou stuff is to be ordered via DM @ https://twitter.com/_conpeitou_
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Latest LF
http://listenflavor.com/html/page216.html
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New 390 bags.
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Any recommendations for fairy kei posters on instagram? I’m getting tired of westerners wearing ugly sublimation printed indie brand skirts and a mediocre pastel sweater and calling it fairy kei.
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New ACDC RAG winter jackets and matching pants.

https://global.rakuten.com/en/store/acdcrag/item/cx-001-a/
https://global.rakuten.com/en/store/acdcrag/item/cx-002-a/
https://global.rakuten.com/en/store/acdcrag/item/cx-001-b/
https://global.rakuten.com/en/store/acdcrag/item/cx-002-b/
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>>10014508
You can pretty much forget IG by now, it's flooded by 11-13yo, tag abusers and sponsorship spambots.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJywi6CEKeo
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>>10014688
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN31FUouWbA
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>>10014508
> westerners wearing ugly sublimation printed indie brand skirts and a mediocre pastel sweater and calling it fairy kei.
I'm trying to find a video relevant to this on youtube, but basically someone asks girls what mascot they think is the most kawaii (one example was pikachu versus hello kitty) and at the end of the video they revealed what came up in google for kawaii if they searched in english. Many of the girls commented that the search results in english were not really kawaii and more like tacky, something they would like maybe in elementary school.
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>>10014935
You mean https://tokyogirlsupdate.com/kawaii-reception-2017-201705124310.html
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>>10014935
It's so bizarre to me that the west can't seem to get 'kawaii' right. You see shitty kaweewee stuff when you walk into a mall and find stores that cater to nerds and nerd culture, like Hot Topic, Lunchbox, etc. Perhaps bigger companies that make the cheap products don't care to get it right, and younger weebs who know little to nothing about Japanese 'kawaii' buy it because it's all that is available and want to feel tied to kawaii culture? I see this especially with the boom of Tokidoki stuff. It's so fugly, and yet it sells on the IDEA of being like a Japanese kawaii brand. Kawaii in the west seems to be walking into Claire's, finding a tshirt of a blushing cupcake with text that reads "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful", and then being satisfied with that.
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>>10014986
Yes! Thank you so much, I could have sworn I saw it on TV or something.
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>>10014994
I think the issue originates from Pokemon being one of the first things to being introduced as "kawaii" in the west, a lot of the early Pokemon had eyes like that and people just copy+pasted Pikachus eyes on everything, Neopets and Gaia Online came along and a strange kind of kawaii formed.
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>>10014994
>tshirt of a blushing cupcake with text that reads "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful"

I hate shit like that

I hate that most "kawaii" stuff in merica is just a chibi object with big eyes.
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Again new LF but only one pastel piece.
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>>10015544
> only one pastel piece
I don't know why jfashion brands aren't putting out more pastels right now. It's one of the bigger winter trends this year (pastel outerwear/statement pieces) so they're missing out.

>>10014994
To me, the most prevalent problem with westerner take on kawaii and fairy kei/pop kei/yume is that it's too much. It's like if you aren't overflowing with googly keys and stars/hearts/bows/etc. than you're not kawaii enough, when reality is that you just overdid it.

I'm going to dump some coordinates that I think do kawaii simply
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>>10015734
Also some western examples that I think do a pretty good job of not doing too too much
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>>10015726
>I don't know why jfashion brands aren't putting out more pastels right now. It's one of the bigger winter trends this year (pastel outerwear/statement pieces) so they're missing out.

For western fashion, fall in Japan is usually where JP brands throw tartan on the shelves.

>I'm going to dump some coordinates that I think do kawaii simply
There's also the opposite too tho, people that think wearing western wig+print tee+pastel bottom is enough which shows a lot in the Google image search results for "fairy kei" (pic related shows as first result for me)
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>>10015119
I've been frustrated for years that Western "kawaii" just seems so off. The fact the girls from the article in >>10014986 say "I would have liked it in elementary school" probably answers why: it's seen as something really only for kids, so the quality isn't high and the designers for Western kawaii don't care as much since everyone knows kids have little to no taste. Especially in America, where action and coolness and maturity is king and overall even girls and young women might see what's popular with girls of the same age in Japan and go "that's too childish". It's just a cultural thing.

I will say the "chibi cupcake/avocado/screwdriver/etc" thing really, really, really needs to die. If I had to kill one "kawaii" trend in the West, it would be chibi things with faces and """silly""" quotes. Unicorns and mermaids and whatever can stay, but by god, stop putting braindead •• faces on everything.
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>>10015787
> Google image search results for "fairy kei" (pic related shows as first result for me)
Yeah, that's why I wanted to dump outfits without that sort of formula. The sort of dreamy simple kawaii feeling from fairy kei is what I love about it so much.
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>>10014093
Does anyone know where to buy the items here that aren't the printed tops? specifically the bottom middle girl, is that skirt available anywhere for sale?
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>>10014994
As someone who loves Tokidoki, I don't find Tokidoki kawaii. It's graffiti-style art. I guess you're right though that most might see it as 'kawaii'.
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>>10014994
>>10016028
I don't think Tokidoki is the worst offender, at least not like, say, Shopkins. It reminds me more of something like Lisa Frank than it does Hello Kitty, though.
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>>10016028
I definitely agree with this. I don't think it's even trying that much to be kawaii, it would use pastels more if it did.
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>>10015820
this so much.
I don't know if you have this brand overseas but in australia there's this stationary company called smiggle that has always been made for 2nd graders, but when i was in primary school they made cool shit like colour coded everything and these pencil cases with bubble indentations everyone would draw on. nowadays i walk past their store in the city and they sell horrible garish "kawaiee desoo" rainbow unicorn garbage and the worst part is kids eat it up. if they're gonna cash in on kawaii culture at least make it tasteful, a rilakkuma copy is still leagues better that glittery unicorn diarrhoea.
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>>10015820
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>>10016114
To sum it up in a single pic.
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>>10016348
> that funko pop
Why does that look so cheap
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>>10016367
Because it is really cheap? The nendoroid is about three times the price of the funko pop

>>10016114
Why do you care about what kids eat up? Of course they´re going to eat up crap

>>10014994
Why the fuck would the West do kawaii "right"? The shit that sells right now makes plenty of money. This just reads to me like "ninhogo people have superior taste desu".

Fairy kei has never been super mainstream in Japan, and as far as I can tell it's even less so now. (Though I've never been to Japan so don't quote me on it) Something niche in Japan isn't going to be big in America either.
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>>10016585
Some things are cheap, but don't look cheap so funko pop really has no excuse.

If you want to compare them with something in the same price range though, see pic related.
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https://www.plazastyle.com/cbdiner/
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>>10016585
Last reponse anon here. I didn't intend to insinuate that the Japanese are superior, at all... it's more a frustration with /how/ kawaii is marketed here, how kawaii as a whole is bastardized.

There is an unwillingness for the western market to look at kawaii as something beyond being for children. I understand that the culture in western countries (take where I'm from for example, the US) and their standards as to what is childish differ from Japan's, but I do have the right to be frustrated at how low and shitty the production standards are as someone who enjoys and consumes kawaii goods. Western markets took kawaii, a concept and aesthetic meant for all ages in Japan, and commodified it in a very narrow vision of it being cheap and only for kids. Sure, it's easy to import kawaii goods from Japan, especially with access to shopping services. It's still annoying to see it as it is here, in the west. I only wish that if kawaii is to be embraced and marketed, that it be thought of in a more "outside the box" way and with a variety of an audience in mind. Hope this better explains my point.
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>>10014994
I’ve said this for years, but there’s a very easy very specific formula to make things look “kawaii” and western brands just DONT UNDERSTAND IT. It’s all about eye and mouth placement. If you look at kawaii mascots like Rilakkuma, molang, and quite a few Sanrio characters you’ll notice how little vertical space there is between the eyes and the mouth. This works great on things like animals, but it doesn’t translate well to dolls. That’s one of the reasons (other than shitty quality) that I think funko pops look so weird. Western toy creators TRY to create dolls or toys with this ratio, and it just looks... odd. Also, many westerners are super off put by anime, so they toe the line between western and anime styles that just look like shit. It seems most of these toy creator have never spoken with someone who wears jfash either. Shitty unmatched coords that break the rules of pretty much every fashion.
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>>10016843
> if kawaii is to be embraced and marketed, that it be thought of in a more "outside the box" way
This x1000
"Kawaii" has become so mainstream due to social media platforms like instagram, it's hard not to want something decent when brands are pandering so hard to the audience (unicorn/mermaid everything for example). Taking into account booms of kawaii-inspired cartoons (My Little Pony, Steven Universe, Star Versus) and pastel clothing being everywhere (also a byproduct of kpop boom), it's weird that western "kawaii" is still so off from what they're aiming to replicate.
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>>10017051
>it's weird that western "kawaii" is still so off from what they're aiming to replicate
Depends on the brand honestly and, at least for toy brands, it's likely because the head staff is usually very old dudes.

However, when it comes to western jfash indie brands, I would blame the fact that Kawaii Goods was the first to get really popular and all she does is low quality art.
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Release next month.
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Because you guys seem to love pastel knits.
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z02.1.2016030118.d2016038.1552782dSjFfnE&id=574790375177&scm=1007.10157.81291.100200300000000&pvid=51d1012e-40c0-43b1-a749-5b2b882dcf53
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>>10017244
> Kawaii Goods
What ever happened to them? I used to like their accessories but nowadays all I see is cheaply printed clothing
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>>10019071
>What ever happened to them?
Nothing happend, just somebody that refuses to get a job and clings to her old fame because she is almost 40 (if she isn't already), never had a real job because autism, hoarder, children, etc.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWvyDbqzvaY
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>>10019071
I agree, I had some bunny ears and a couple three-way pins she used to make, they were actually really quality. Maybe she just started thinking she could draw, pasted it on some clothes, and is trying to make it work...
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>>10014994
During some Baby the Stars Shine Bright drama, it was leaked that the staffers would laugh at Westerners and say that Westerners don't know how to do "kawaii" or make cute things right. I absolutely agree and think it's a uniquely Japanese thing. I think it's just because they've embraced it for so long and there's nothing gay or childish about cute things there. There is literally a kawaii culture that the west seems to downplay, but it's very real.
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>>10021272
It doesn't take much to get kawaii right tho but most companies don't bother doing research, they just think kawaii=cute and done.
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Ank Rouge got a collab with Maki up for preorder.
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>>10015820
>it's seen as something really only for kids
this pretty much, Eurofag here.
I love this fashion but if I'd wear it on the streets here I'd hear constant laughing behind my back and even in my face and that's just tiring and not worth it.
People even laugh at people in costumes on halloween weekend so go figure...
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>>10022087
>People even laugh at people in costumes on halloween weekend so go figure...
Sounds like they all need some mental help.
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Listen Flavor lucky packs will release in few weeks, pic related seems to be this year's exclusive tee design.
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The annual Fairy Kei picnic looks like Larme at this point.
http://charismatalk.jp/I0002891/&page=1
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>>10018809
And another one
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.58.7fc15315fleQuQ&id=579992824486&ns=1&abbucket=16#detail
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>>10025277
I wouldn’t even call this any specific kind of style let alone larme desu. They kind of just look casual normie.
On that note, I’d be happy with a Fairy Kei and early Larme blend if it ever happened.
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>>10025481
Bless you anon I’m adding this to my next taobao haul
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on the topic of pastel knits, anyone have any vintage looking knitting patterns for similar tacky but endearing sweaters? they are my aesthetic
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>>10025481
Not knit but cute either way
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3-c.w4002-14448191139.46.464f989cE0MBT3&id=579837807788
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>>10026261
also pants
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3-c.w4002-14448191139.37.464f989cE0MBT3&id=580968675475
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New to this, but could any of you describe to me what the fairy kei aesthetics are to you? Like, what are the do's, what are the don'ts. y'know. That kind of stuff.
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>>10026268
Based on 80s kids popculture (My Little Pony, Popples, Care Bears, etc) with layered pastel vintage outfits. There is a lot you can do wrong but in most cases people just lack the vintage feeling in their outfit with slapping on random pastel animu stuff from redbubble and call it a day. Also wierd OTT makeup.
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>>10026268
Dreamy, 80s, girly, fluffy, pastel. The don'ts are anime shit, too much normie clothes , too many bright colors.
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Latest cute bags from Creamy Ice
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>>10026268
I'm more on the nile perch end of the spectrum (less 80s influence and more general cute stuff) but fairy kei is just a massively comfy style mood-wise.
Do:
>varying textiles (fur, knit, etc)
>enough layers to be warm in antarctica
>multiple colours
>a handmade look/vibe
>natural hair
>i personally like to include a comfy motif eg fruits, cats, teddies, etc

Dont:
>menhera
>anime and "kawiwi desu X3" characters
>pants (you can attempt but they've become a fakeboi staple)
>piercings and tatts (if possible)
>going overboard with the makeup
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>>10026319
you know what while i remember i'm gonna drop some good ig accounts. i'm just going through my follows so pardon if some of you already know about some of them
>@sakura_kushu2
>@asami333
>@cucula810
>@fluffybunnyclub
>@uramo.88
>@haruca_girlyhandmade
>@gunifuni
these last 4 are artists not directly related to fairy kei but still inspiring
>@pipnpop
>@chikuwamiel_art
>@unfiltered.ooze (their embroidery is amazing)
>@michirutron
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>>10026319
whereeee are those lace camisoles from?
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>>10026333
spank, but unfortunately they're one of their ooak reworked vintage pieces and they sold long ago
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>>10026333
thank you. at least the ribbon alterations look easy enough so that I can try DIYing it
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>>10026319
I think pants can be super cute but I agree you have to be careful. I tend to wear pastel colored jeans with my outfits especially when it gets a little colder outside. MahouDolly does pants really well imo
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>>10015744
I like this a lot
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Again some 390 x MLP collab.
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>>10026262
>look at sizing
>can fit a variety of waists
>but the hip size is always male tier

Do asians really have no ass, even the chubby ones?
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>>10027184
Having hips and a butt is really not a good thing in Asia, slender hips and legs are considered more beautiful and youthful (and it's a population that already tends to be more slender/less waist-hip differential compared to the West). So yes, Asians have no ass and actively try not to have one.
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>>10027184
It’s good for me and my toothpick body so I can’t complain
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Does anyone have any favorite fancy outfit pics with sweaters like these since it's getting cooler out ?
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>>10022087
>>10022961
I didn't believe this happened until I went to Finland and saw all my friends getting stared at and harassed.

But yikes, and they say we Americans are the rude ones?
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>>10027936
sauce for the one with the little cows on it? i love it
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>>10028489
Tbh Moco's coords are always on point.
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>>10028492
I love Moco so much thank you anon
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https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.205.4e9b4884E5TINP&id=558995504191&ns=1&abbucket=16
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>>10030609
god they have too much cute stuff
https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1-b-s.w5003-17460168265.7.56e275f5LYyhFw&id=581391754201&scene=taobao_shop
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>>10030610
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z2k.11010449.931864.2.7d2a509diQTLBV&scm=1007.13982.82927.0&id=562243721005&last_time=1541791351
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Are the oversized t-shirts associated with some styles usually just standard fit shirts that are a few sizes too big, or are they cut a certain way? Sorry bout the basic question
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>>10031093
A few of my oversized tshirts are a bit wider on the bottom, kind of like they flare out just a tiny bit, which most standard tshirts don't do. I think it's to fit over tutus or poofy skirts.
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Rec me some jackets, please and thank you!
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>>10031244
https://gocart.jp/ap/item/i/A0GC0000EENH

Snagged the pink colorway of this a while back and I adore it
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>>10031244
Would be useful to know what temperatures for.
https://miraclecom.thebase.in/items/8948040
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>>10031809
https://global.rakuten.com/en/store/acdcrag/item/xl-034-15/?l-id=rgm_shoptop_en_rvp_widget
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>>10031810
https://ailand-store.jp/ap/item/i/A0AL1000EI52
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>>10031817
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3-c-s.w4002-18853412761.54.16bb2713fvaoX9&id=577993854815
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>>10031809
>Would be useful to know what temperatures for.
Doesn't matter. My state is bipolar. It starts off cold in the mornings, then gets hot in the afternoons. And sometimes its just hot, or just cold. I was looking for more than one jacket so light and heavy and anything in between is fine.
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RIP Candye Syrup's shop.
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What is the name for that style of hat in the OP pic? The one with the overalls/long stripe shirt under the white tee?
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>>10032864
Bucket hat.
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Cherry seems to be on a Fairy Kei spree - new made-to-order prints.
https://cherrypop.shop/
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Can I get some fancy style fairy kei brand recommendations? I like Fancy a la Mode and Nile Perch, if this helps.
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>>10034105
You probably know all already, Fancy is even more dead than general FK anyways.
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What is with the obession with baby themed motifs lately in FK? I've been seeing it from brands I follow all over instagram, is it because people like Tavuchi (who also created spank kei) are all getting older and having kids, so it's on their minds? My only gripe is that people would think I was into ageplay if I bought any of it. It just repels me
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>>10034995
Babyshower motifs have always been a thing in FK, you probably just notice them now for whatever reason.
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>>10035140
This. I’ve got quite a few baby shower themed items but I only wear them to events nowadays since the rep of baby themed items = ageplayer nowadays with normies
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Miracle added new stock.
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Still on preview but release is next month.
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3-c-s.w4002-15746413396.11.688f5df7axMtGE&id=578826781621
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LF released the annual DR collab.
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>>10034105
Every brand sold at https://www.fluffybunny.jp/
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>>10038299
And if you like irl stores
https://twitter.com/h_birthdaytoyou
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http://www.dreamvs.jp/shop/pages/dml_sanrio2018aw.aspx
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>>10035541
> rep of baby themed items = ageplayer nowadays with normies
Is ageplay a comment that commonly gets tossed around with normies? I might just be lucky but I've never heard or seen any of my friends or strangers ever talk about ageplay in relation to my outfits, but I see it all the time on cgl.
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>>10039383
With people under 30, yes, you can thank Melanie Martinez for that considering they sell her DDLG merch at Hot Topic.
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>>10039441
I thought MM was cancelled? I've seen plenty of people calling out her "aesthetic" as a blatant ripoff of jfash and/or predatory and disturbing, especially after the accusation came out. Is she really that much of an influence that people still associate pastel jfash with her?
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>>10039445
Nobody cared anymore after it was proven that her ex-bff made everything up for attention.
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>>10039284
Oh HELL yes. Those boots are so cute!
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YRU and StrangeCvlt have 50% off their shoes today.
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https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.20141001.1.51732827RCBpXg&id=580622090900
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>>10048084
These would be so much cuter if they didn’t look like an eight year old scrawled their initials on the side in blue sharpie. Ruins the entire shoe imo
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>>10048414
think I'm going to get the shoes and try to find paint in a close enough shade to paint over the text
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>>10048414
>>10050074
They don't have the text on, it's only on there to prevent picture theft.
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>>10050234
Plus it's written in the description anyways.
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>>10050234
>>10050251
oh thank god. thanks anon
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>>10027936
Sorry for newfag but what brand are these? Fancy?
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>>10050309
Fancy is the name of a style...they aren't a brand, they are vintage sweaters.
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>>10050355
Okay, thanks, anon.
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Does anyone know how often/ if Cherry Cheezy restocks? I missed out on the retro candy striper shirt and I'm sad about it.
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>>10050309
Adele knitwear
I suggest looking up ‘vintage pastel sweater’ though. You get more results
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>>10050558
She mostly doesn't restock
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Do you guys know of any artists that do clay decoden still? I really liked Cutiestars stuff but she doesn't seem to make it anymore.
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>>10050851
Seems like a pretty much dead art, you might as well just browse etsy.
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what happened to dreamy mel mel website? All I see is plushies
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>>10050950
Dreamy Melmel as a store has shut down, and the artist has moved her interest to her newest shop project, B.A.B.Y. To my understanding, she will continue to sell vintage fancy style goods and handmade items, but the URL that was formerly Dreamy Melmel's redirects to the B.A.B.Y. website now
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>>10048084
>>10048414
>>10050074
>>10050234
>>10050251
Hey I put in an order for these, SS said it'll be done 1-2 months - should I post a review here when I eventually get them?
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>>10051149
hell yeah
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>>10050851
Zombieunicorn is my go-to
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>>10051135
I regret not buying from them.
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Hey gulls, where do you buy your kawaii sneakers? I'm looking for something pastel and comfy...I was thinking about these? I'm just worried they would be that weird dusty pink...



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