Continuation of >>4077762Post more of Evangelion's best girl! Discussions welcome.
>>4082352>Discussions welcomeHas anyone actually discussed anything in any of these threads? I've never seen any outside of the usual worthless back and forth.
>>4082841OK, why did Shinji tried to strangle Asuka?I think he was still angry at Asuka. In the kitchen scene his eyes are covered with hair as to show he doesn't know what's he doing. The first frame shows them very close to each other but the next frame shows their hands far away from each other to show that they are going to do completely opposite things with them. On the beach his eyes are covered by hair again but when Asuka caresses him, his eyes are wide open. But this I think this doesn't make sense because he wanted to see her and all other people too. And if we dig deeper, in "because I know my feeling were real" scene Asuka shows 'i love you' in gesture language.So another theory is that Shinji was checking if Asuka was real. Rust on Misato's cross indicates that some time passed before Asuka showed up and he was alone there for a long time. And notice how white that beach is. It looks like the white space in ep26 freedom scene where other characters tell him 'without existence of others, you can't know your own shape'. So he strangles Asuka to get some reaction from her, expecting rejection but got acceptance. But I think Shinji is just too stupid to do things this way.What do you think?
>>4082939I've always thought the latter, that Shinji was trying to see if this was real and if she'd react unlike when she just goes limp in Instrumentality, probably expecting to be slapped or hit, but got that caress instead.He's been alone for who knows how long, after the mind fuck of everything leading up to it, probably just wallowing in his own misery, wondering if he's even going to live much longer or not, and then Asuka appears and Shinji's probably just doesn't know if this is real or just more Instrumentality mind fuckery.
>>4082939The latter, probably. When Shinji notices Asuka he's visibly shocked. And his movements weren't like they were in the kitchen scene; we've all seen that Shinji gets uncharacteristically volatile when he's angry, and this wasn't that. It was more like a trauma victim moving on autopilot.With the hair covering his eyes, I saw it as him already resigning himself to the idea that the Asuka in front of him wasn't real and that he was really and truly alone, only to be surprised that she wasn't a projection.
>>4082939One thing must being specified. Asuka, Misato and Ritsuko didn't had an instrumentality experience, they died before the beginning of the Third Impact. Many people thinks that Shinji and these other characters had a collective instrumentality, but it isn't so; instrumentality is a personal experience, it's either you having a vision of your inner hopes and desires, or facing your nightmares, like for Shigeru Aoba* and ultimately Shinji. The people who Shinji sees in his instrumentality are projections of his insecurity and diffidence, people who in the end he admits that never considered as friendly, because for him their affection was a farce to use him in some ways. He doesn't see Kaworu because he loves him, and they reconciliated in the very moment he asked Shinji to kill him. What Shinji realizes in his own instrumentality is that he will no more condiscendent with those who he doesn't trust, so, when he wokes on the beach near to Asuka, who was likely resurrected and put next to him by Rei/Lilith, he suddenly relives the vision he had, and has the instinct to kill her, but he desist because in that situation, in a dead world, any action would have been meaningless. *The canon description of Aoba is that he's a nihilist; in short, nihilists believe that nothing has value, or that this value is marginal and transitory, they're amoral, practical and materialists. Aoba most likely had no affections, dreams or hopes, and when he experimented his instrumentality he faced the emptyness of his ego, that took the form of a mob of Rei clones, who, like avenging ghosts, came to him to drag him into the darkness, and he was compresibly scared to hell about it.
>>4082939the first one makes more sense to me.
>>4082939Shinji sees the ghost of Rei 3 times.First in episode 1.Next in the graveyard, she is aboard the jet.Last he sees the ghost of Rei in the final scene.He dies very soon after seeing her ghost in the first two times. He is killed in Eva unit one which awakens the Eva’s berserker mode. The same happens when he is taken into the 12th angel. He dies, the Eva goes berserk and he is resurrected.In the third impact the ghosts of Rei appear before people just before they shatter the persons’ at field.If you see the ghost of Rei, you’re going to die.Shinji figured this out.Lying there next to Asuka, he again sees the ghost of Rei.Shinji is about to die. He sees Asuka and realizes that she is probably going to kill him, so he has to kill her first.Asuka comforts him. Shinji finally embraces her feelings. Even if she is going to kill him, he doesn’t care. He needs her.Does Shinji die again? Does Asuka kill Shinji? I guess we’ll never know. All we know is that he doesn’t care. Even if it means his death he won’t shut her out anymore. “I need you.”
>>4083371>Next in the graveyard, she is aboard the jetThat happened in ep15, long before he got absorbed by leliel.If your theory was right we would also see ghost Rei in the end of ep5 when he was almost burnt alive by Ramiel. In Ep 18 when unit 03 was strangling unit 01 . And ep19 when Zeruel was hitting the core of unit 01.
>>4083371sheeeeeit you're dumb
>>4083371>Next in the graveyard, she is aboard the jetThat's not a ghost, that's actual Rei. Gendo would rather spend time with his doll than grieve with his son.
>>4083371At least post an Asuka if you're gonna type out something this stupid
>>4083506Look again. She’s not in the window after the reverse shot. She’s a Rei Ghost.> That happened in ep15, long before he got absorbed by leliel.Literally next episode. Probably two days after seeing her, he’s dead.>If your theory was right we would also see ghost Rei in the end of ep5 when he was almost burnt alive by Ramiel. In Ep 18 when unit 03 was strangling unit 01 . And ep19 when Zeruel was hitting the core of unit 01.He did not die in those cases. He was only hurt by Ramiel and was absorbed by the Eva without dying when fighting Zeuriel.
>>4083371Wow this shit is crazy
>>4083371All the mysteries and unexplicable things in NGE are just subplots that Grainax scrapped for lack of money, or in favor of more action to have more material to translate into videogames due to their accord for the Project EVA.
>>4083689>>4083371How do you even come up with something like that? Make a theory about Misato and Shinji having sex
>>4083371Maybe Shinji was just a low level psychic and saw the image of Rei before every major event, like a banshee that appears to announce the death of a warrior to his relatives.
>>4082352Charmed I’m sure
Asuka is literally faeces
>>4084250>rei is standing in a piss puddle.
Shikinami is a good Asuka and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. She just didn't get fleshed out enough since they tacked on her backstory at the literal end of her arc.
>>4084548Shikinami was a welcome presence in the back half of the rebuild. She did her normal job of kicking Shinji in the ass until he could activate his plot armor.
>>4084592>Back halfReally puts her underuse into perspective; she's very barely there in the Rebuilds. Cause I mean:> Not in 1.0> Some presence but still Rekt in 2.0> Only there to seethe at Shinji in 3.0, no real focus> Bare minimum of presence in 4.0 for her arcThe reason it's so weird is because apparently Anno has gone on record during the 4.0 anniversary saying Asuka's his favorite character.
>>4084548The Rebuilds were mainly Shinji focused, with some extra focus for Kaworu and Gendo in the last two compared to the original series. You've also got Toji and Kensuke being more integrated into the end of the story, and Mari taking up screentime as a third female pilot.All of this came at the expense of the first and second best characters in Evangelion, who were left with the barest minimum of development.
>>4084615> The reason it's so weird is because apparently Anno has gone on record during the 4.0 anniversary saying Asuka's his favorite character.A lot of that interview references the backlash and harassment against the studio without specifically saying for what reason. He just says the word ‘interpretation’ a lot. To still be belly-aching about fan reaction a year later is pretty telling. But for what it’s worth, I do believe him when he says Asuka is one of his favorites (he also names Misato and Ritsuko of all characters). She factors into two animated sequences that use weird cgi rotoscoping style techniques, which apparently took a long time to animate (the force feeding scene and hair cutting scene). Anno’s a weird one. He also said he has never actually watched the film. So I suspect his outlook on the film is genuinely skewed. If a segment that took over a year to animate goes by in half a minute, then as a director the time and effort put into that scene is going to give you an incorrect impression of how it was experienced by an audience. I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt here and saying he didn’t know how the film would be handled by fans because how could he? All the character drama seemed like an afterthought anyway. He seemed to want to focus more on giant flying boats exploding. The character stuff was like pulling teeth for this movie and it’s ironic to hear goobers praise it for being a heartfelt catharsis for the characters when it actually seemed Anno cared the least about that aspect.
>>4083876Misato tried after Rei and Kaji died. Shinji rejected her.Best for the both of them I know but…he turned down a hot night.
>>4085237>All the character drama seemed like an afterthought anyway. He seemed to want to focus more on giant flying boats exploding. The character stuff was like pulling teeth for this movie and it’s ironic to hear goobers praise it for being a heartfelt catharsis for the characters when it actually seemed Anno cared the least about that aspect.Yeah the character stuff is what pisses me off the most. They had both the time and the situation to execute something more meaningful in terms of character interaction, considering there's so much shit to draw from, so many references to make, even within Rebuild, and they don't do any of that.The only justification I can think of is that to them, actually addressing the character stuff at all was already pushing the envelope, so they didn't feel the need to actually do the scenes thoroughly. They banked on the fans to point at the shiny thing actually happening and fill in any blanks from just that.Which is fucking weird considering how EoE was pretty much ALL character shit. Really, that second arc was kind of a detriment to the actual story being told. Which is a shame, because clearly a lot of effort (too much effort) went into those action scenes.But then again, the crew is more than capable of balancing character drama even within the confines of an action scenes (the ending of 1.0 where Gendo has to trust Shinji and Rei does her sacrifice thing comes to mind), so really there's not much of an excuse.
>>4084628Post more ecumenical art.
>>4086156It sounds like from interviews that Anno would arbitrarily rewrite major parts of the script on a whim. So I strongly suspect that the movie feels so uneven because it’s unevenly written. For example, the last minute backstory montage is truly odd. Even if you liked the film, and assume Asuka’s story has a happy end, it’s so strange to lay out all her character drama in a one minute scene only to resolve the drama they JUST introduced within the same one minute sequence. It’s borderline absurdist. In that particular case, I feel like it’s a left over scene from a previous version of the script. But they kept it in because if they removed it, Asuka would hardly have an arc at all.
>>4086592Let's be honest, if the the Rebuilds weren't coming off such a legendary series people would rip them to shreds en masse for bungling the plot and characters so badly.
>>4083876kek>>4083371meds, now>>4082939haha yeah Shinji is a baka but I think it's the second one
>>4083371Now THIS is schizokino. Eva truly is mankind's greatest gift.
>>4087304There was never anything wrong with it. What's wrong is the people spamming it to be annoying, in the same vein anyone spamming any ship is annoying.
>>4087777Checked and it's so unfair how pretty she is. Other girls stand no chance.
>>4087965True. Very few anime girls can actually claim to be as beautiful as Asuka.
>>4088149>Who are you?>I'm you, just more depressed
Oгo! Кaк жe хoчeтcя Acoчкy!
>>4088350Eдвa ли Acoчкe хoчeтcя тeбя. У бeдняжки и тaк хвaтaeт зaбoт, вo вceх вepcиях eё peaльнocти.
>>4087080Reminder that the very first trapped in an MMORPG anime was BORING!
>>4088180>>Who are you?>>I'm you, just more Autistic
>>4088718Just play the games, //SIGN's purpose was just to world build and be a prequel for the games.
Maid Asuka makes my heart go doki doki
Asuka Swagley Soryu
Where did this shit theory that rebuild beach Asuka is Soryu come from? People notice tiny spots on a suit and miss completely different hair color. It's Shikinami. 1 - she is surprised by the fact that she have slept, because Shikinami wasn't able to for a long time. 2 - Shinji admits that he liked her as a response, because Shikinami did it first. Soryu never confessed to him out loud, he'd never say "I liked you *too* to her. 3 - why Soryu has to "give regards to Kensuke" when she wouldn't give a flying fuck about him in NGE? 4 - why would Soryu suddenly become 28 years old, then materialize inside Eva 13 and crash land at Kensuke's house?
>>4089761You don't understand, Mari is Shinji and Asuka's daughter from the future
>>4090274Kino theory and I haven't even seen the Rebuilds (and I never will).
>>4090274No. Not unless you can trace either Shinji or Asukas' lineage back to Judas Iscariot.
>>4090939Not as much as me.
The real shocker about Asuka being so popular is that if you look at the early promotional stuff from the TV show it was Rei wall to wall.
>>4091057a) Nips are too cucked to handle an energetic womanb) Asuka didn't show up until a third of the way through the show
>>4091057So? Her real fans like her for who she is, not because she is popular in Japan.
>>4090313>RebuildsI wish they never existed
>>4091478My mind and my heart are fighting on this issue. Rationally, I understand that Rebuild is a souless abomination. But emotionally I adore Shikinami, so beautiful and broken, so hopeless and dutiful.
>>4091561>I’m not thrilled that Kensuke and Asuka ended up together. I’m more mad that Shinji ended up with MariThey didn't end up together. Kensuke is "father" for Shiki. Mari takes Shinji into the new world like she promised and then he meets whoever you want him to meet. But "goodbye" is a magic word we say to people we want to see again. Shinji said that to Asuka so they'll meet again in the new world . Only reifags got cucked because Kaworu can just go in another world .Anyway I still think it would be better if rebuilds never existed.
>>4091618Is this a new level of kencuck posting?
>>4091899Just kys retard
I mean she just stays with (you). Stuck in my head right now in fact
>>4091918>>4091913>>4091899He's spamming again
>>4091920That's angry reicuck. He is upset that his dogshit of a waifu worth less than a fucking penpen, so he comes here to spam. Misato thread is being destroyed by shipfags too. Subhumans are everywhere.
>>4092088>>4091918>>4091913You have issues
>>4091937>Subhumans are everywhereWell, she surrounded with madmen and traitors in her world. It's only natural that she attracts them in this world too. Sometimes they're simply bursting with most vile hatred.
>>4092166She saw something truly terrifying. I wonder what exactly.
>>4092184Toji's dick in ep8
>>4092184>>4092166Oh, yeah I didn’t think it was that moment until you pointed it out.It’s hard to recognize without seeing Touji dropping Trou. For that bit the frame was just as important as the picture.
Haven't posted in one of these threads in a long time but this is top notch artwork
Fellas, I think I will say something controversial:I don't think Asuka is actually homophobic. I think her being upset at Kawoshin is just projection that Shinji is giving another pilot attention and not her, same way she seethes at Rei and Shinji in pic related.Deepest lore.
>>4092919Isn't this obvious? She gave Shinji attention only because he was a pilot. If Seele sent Kaworu to her, she would be interested in him. And probably far more. Tabris is quite charismatic.
>>4092184>I wonder what exactly.Asuken art.
>>4092950Bait? You will deny that Asuka would be interested if Kaworu was introduced to her as Eva pilot?
>>4094471>reidenFuck I want an eva themed mgrr style game now
>>4094471Big boss Soryu and her phantom Shikinami.
>>4093912She's so looooooooooooooong
>>4094945That's r*icucks for you. Fucking hate them
>>4094471STANDING HEREEEE !I REALISE, (YOU) WHERE JUST LIKE ME !
Does someone have a better quality version of this? Tried reverse image searching but it's too pixelated. I'd really be happy if someone helped me out here :3
>>4095098Thank you so much!!!!Seems like imgops isn't as good as I though
>>4095106damgu, I still can't seem to find the one with the backgroundThere's a signature on there.. if only I remembered
>>4095112I feel like no one else cares, but gotta post anyways lololEdited it myself, think it looks better with the yellow behind <.<
>>4095187...did she cut the feet off the plugsuit? why not just take off the suit?
> Asuka Langley Soryu and Asuka Shikinami Langley fishing togetherPeace at last
>>4095221She took of her boots and placed them in front of worst girl's head>why not just take off the suit?In this case it would look less humiliating + Asuka did this right after piloting eva
>>4095240Sorry to break it to you, but the whole point of a full body suit is that you can't take off any part of it without removing the whole thing.
KICK THIS SHIPKEK OF THE THREAD!
>>4093025The closest thing to this was the manga, where, no, she wasn’t. She just hated him.
>>4093025>>4092926He would be nice to her but his eccentric, detached manner of speaking would piss her off to no end. She wouldn't ever be able to stand it. Just look at the elevator scene where Rei tries doing something like that, even though Rei's trying to help her out.
>>4093268Now THAT is a fairly deep reference.
>>4092919Asuka is never even aware of Kaworus’ existence outside of the manga and that super cringe worthy radio drama.Yes, I am mad that the radio drama depicted her as homophobic.
I thought this design of Asuka was pretty cute.https://youtu.be/f8pxX7Kz3b0Miyamura for the love of god, back away from the mic and use a pop filter.
Kenas or AsuKen?
Holy fucking shit...
I genuinely believe if AI gains control over society it will destroy it. Today we laugh at this shitty art, tomorrow we are executed by AI controlled soldiers because AI thought it would be better like that for us.
>>4097257AI art is no longer shitty; look up DALL-E 2. In my opinion it's already at a point it's starting to threaten the livelihood of many artists and the viability of that career.
>>4097471I swear Asuka fans will grow to like this ship.Kensuke turned out to be a real stand up guy. He’s also handsome. Plus he grew out of his childish ways by having to continuously address Asukas’ childishness.I actually wish the rebuild world wasn’t rewritten because I like the idea of all the pilots learning to build the new world together.
>>4097601>>4097471Is this guy out of school becaue the spam is pretty bad today.
>>4097601>I swear Asuka fans will grow to like this ship.I self-insert as the loser (i.e., Shinji) so I can't possibly like a nerd-turned-chad (i.e., Kensuke).>Kensuke turned out to be a real stand up guyHe was supposed to be a stand up comedian though.
>>4097601>I swear Asuka fans will grow to like this shipThe ship itself is perfectly fine, it's the fact it's being co-opted by the mentally ill that nobody likes. Don't even try to pretend this is anything other than shitting up a thread and trying to force a ship down our throats. It's exactly the same shit that people do when they bring up shipfaggotry in normal threads, and it's just as annoying.
>>4097947Have you tried simply not replying?
>>4098165Does her chest look strange to you? I'm getting "Aqua Sag" vibes.
>>4098093>>4097989>>4097988Its literally not me you faggots. How hard is it to click hide post?
>>4098370>kencuck spam stops>you appear, telling us to shut up
>>4098422He'll come back at some point I'm sure. But he stops posting when we ignore him. So don't reply to the troll you dumb niggers
I didn't know I could love an anime character so much
>>4098694Ran out of shit to spam or what?
I need a wife like this.
I need more gamer Asuka
>>4099488>>4099427>>4099486Cute and canon