Bobo's Last Stand Edition>Educational sites: https://www.investopedia.com/https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain>Financial TV Streams: https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.htmlhttps://watchnewslive.tv/watch-fox-business-network-fbn-free-24-7/>Charts: https://www.tradingview.comhttps://www.finscreener.comhttps://www.koyfin.com/https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com>Screeners: https://finviz.com/https://www.tradingview.com/screenerhttps://etfdb.com/>Options https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.comhttps://optionstrat.com/https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices>Pre-Market and Live data: https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futureshttps://finance.yahoo.com/>Calendars https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendarhttps://www.earningswhispers.com/calendarhttps://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html>Boomer Investing 101: https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started>Misc: https://tradingeconomics.com/https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickershttps://market24hclock.com/https://wallmine.com/https://fintel.io/https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculatorhttps://brokerchooser.com/https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-ratesPrevious: >>56726583
Bobo? You good mate?
>early bakeThis is you
>>56729500no this me, good night
swiftie bros...it's over
What day and time is NVDA earnings?
>>56729597what do you want me to spoonfeed you?
>>56729597Google says 4:20pm
what are you holding french frères
>>56729605I've only ever heard of one of those
>>56729612You've probably seen or heard about all of those side from Pernod Ricard and air liquide
>>56729612I hope it's Hermès or LVMH
>>56729622Nope just L'oreal
>>56729603>>56729604>20 minutes after closing time of my marketAHHHH GET ME OUT OF EUROLAND (just joking I love it here, it's my home)
>>56729636Yea, I have no idea why I'm even up this early, at this God forsaken hour. I should go back to sleep for a few more hours at least
>>56729651its 2:30am here, and im wide awake for some reason. Taking a fucking sleeping pill tonight.
NVDA will crash.
>>56729662Well it's 4:30am here, and I already took 2 sleeping pills, and went to sleep for a few hours, got about 3 hours of sleep then woke up.That's what sleeping pills do to me, knock me out pretty quickly, but then I don't sleep that long
>>56729667I think it will just be like last time where a beat is already priced in>>56729674They still work for me ...least for now. But yeah Ive been wide awake at like 3am for the past 2 weeks for some unknown reason.
>>56729670I will buy at 150.
>>56729674>>56729682Are sleeping pills the same as melatonin?
>>56729682Maybe glowies are messing with the 5g signals again, we are all 'hackable animals' now, remember what Yuval harari said?
>>56729682I spy a gap at 150.
>>56729688Well I took some over the counter sleeping aid I bought at dollar general. I have melatonin also, but that's more like a supplement or vitamin that's supposed to help with sleep, it's usually not as strong as a 'drug'
Stop posting 3DPD. And sleeping pills don't bloody work. Go for a walk or exercise or read or something.I find it interesting that US bloody pumps but the rest of the world does not. Weird. Most of the time, rest of the world obediently follows the US markets.
>>56729691Maybe, also could be my fluoride intake>>56729688mine the active ingredient is:doxylamine succinate 25mg
>>56729707You sure like the word bloody. Do you watch too many bloody low budget horror movies over there in bongland or what?
Turns out it was different this time, weird.
>>56729716That's the same thing in mine, it's like NyQuil but without the acetaminophen and cough stuff part. But I also have some liquid kratom I just took.Kratom is strange, it has an uppudy energizing stimulant like effect at smaller doses, but at a higher dose it has sedative relaxing properties, so it really depends on the dosage
>>56729723I don't have the license for more heavy-hitting words, m8. Plus it's only fitting since bobos are getting completely genocided
>>56729759Yea, I had to get off the Bobo train awhile back. I don't know when, but bobo will rise from the ashes at some point and he will get his turn again
>>56729707Think we're just riding on sheer denial of the situation and the power of the FAGMANhttps://youtu.be/rY-HOYTz-rs?t=25
Nvda' earnings are already priced in mumoids . Imagine going long at the top
What's the estimated expected range for NVDA for earnings today? Thinking about doing some ratio spreads or double diagonals or some volatility plays er somethin
>>56729800NVDA is going to 150.Count on it.
>>56729881>Lumposting is backAbout time. >WheatDamn wheatbros are getting shre3kt, aren't they? Makes sense that wheat would go down though.
>>56729684Feet posters are more disgusting than the sister fuckers. I'm shorting feet posters and longing sister posters.
And just like that, NVDA will never be above $505 ever again!
>futuresholy shit that slow descent into increasing volatility to the downside. this shit is going to get really ugly really fast
Today is the day, frens.
>>56729912Not much economic data out today just NVDA earnings today AHso just post Lum to pump SOXL
what's your edge /smg/?
If this one thread is a contrarian sentiment indicator for what happens in the market, then it's FUCKING ON
>>56729806$504 * IV of 103.4% * sqrt(4? days to 11/24 opex/365) = 68% chance of it swinging up or down less than $54.55At least I think that's how the math works. I've never actually calculated that before.IV sauce: https://www.barchart.com/stocks/quotes/NVDA/volatility-greeks?expiration=2023-11-24-w
>>56729937I do close + sqrt(ATR x N candles) to project prices, not sure if I'm right to do so, but it feels right, and doing it from Jan 1st onward called the top of the range for WMT
>Sibanye-Stillwater slumps 23% premarket after launching $500 million senior unsecured guaranteed convertible bonds due 2028>SBSW>4.00 -1.20 -23.08%Hope nobody tried playing the platinum/palladium dip via miners.
>>56729952That does sound more useful. My approach for sure is thrown off by the fact there's a holiday before opex and a frontloaded earnings day. Plus apes bidding up options to gamble on.imo we could see a $75 swing and I wouldn't bat an eye.
>nvda earnings>positive>they're only up .22% pre-marketYeah, I'm thinking we're near the top
It's simple really, sell off all big mega cap tech stocks by 50-70% at least and distribute that money everywhere else in the market so it balances out and we actually go higher.
>>56729986earnings are tonight and we're at ATH in anticipation
yesterday was such a nice money day. hope it never ends.
>>56730019If you own their stock, then you are part owner if the company. Just call up the COO or one of the other executives and tell them that you are one of the owners, and that you'll fire him if he doesn't tell you the earnings numbers right then and there, then leak then here.Then profit. Simple as, r-right?
>>56729967So if I do this, I think it's roughly equal to one SD of movement. If you look back exactly one year ago, you see NVDA had a local high at that time, too. If we project it one year forward (to today), you can see that it's about where it should be on +3 sentiment. This implies that it is actually correctly priced, provided fundamentals have actually changed.
>>56730043Sorry I should point out that I originally had the trendline on the high of last year, and moved the starting point down to the close, but didn't adjust the endpoint on the rightGot a second post coming
>>56730043So where does the +3 sentiment come from and how does that work?
>>56730043>provided fundamentals have actually changedConsidering AI is orders of magnitude more useful than crypto ASICs, yeah, I'd say the fundamentals are changed.
>>56730043>actually correctly priced>$1,245 billion market cap>$33 billion in revenue in the last 4 quartersyeah okay
Starting to feel a bit boboish to be honest
>>56729925>so just post LumYou don't have to tell me twice>>56729912It's interesting. Copper turned to red. Bonds are slowly going back up but that could just be retracement. For now, I am slightly bearish for the day. NVDA determines the fate of the coming weeks.
I was searching for dividend stocks, found one paying a 36.17 anual dividend yield. What is the catch?
>>56730097Are ya now?
>>56730048>>56730043So here's a few ways you can look at the chart and draw price level conclusions. I'll be interested to see which one of these ends up being the most accurate:>Using MAs, the 20/50 just hit a golden cross so the uptrend could continue. A retracement could put it at 445 to 454.>Using supply/demand levels, you can see a support around 404.>Using fib levels, it could retrace to 434.46 to 460.50, or have an upside of 544.82.>Using volatility projection, it could even out to around $435, or range anywhere in the 435 to 504 zone, but most likely in the 450 to 490 if it retraces>Using options, an ATM straddle has breakevens at 466.95 and 543.05>>56730056I'm using "sentiment" interchangeably with "one unit of SD" (standard deviation). I'm calculating it based on the sqrt() shit, which on that post was a movement of 61.21 from Nov 2022 to Nov 2023. So if you think the stock is neutral and not very volatile, it will probably range between -1 and +1 SD (61.21) from that closing price (319.56), so a range of 258.35 to 380.77 by today. Obviously that's not what happened and the current price movement from 319.56 to today's price of 504.09 is more in line with a +3 movement (up 183.63 from 319.56)Does that make sense?>>56730088All market prices are based on supply and demand. Regardless of how you feel about whether something is correct or not, it's not what the chart says. It says demand exceeded supply, so price went up.
>>56730112Also with the option breakevens, that's implying a movement of $38.96 in one day, against a regular ATR of 14.14, eg the options market is pricing in a 2.75x average daily movement as a result of the ER
>>56730088check forward p/e computer
>>56730112>All market prices are based on supply and demandmidwit retards keep saying this and don't even think about what they're saying, it does not apply to stocks, stock prices are determined by valuation, that's why valuations change abruptly overnight based on news, because both buyers and sellers suddenly change their opinion about valuation and therefore the prices they're willing to trade for.>It says demand exceeded supply, so price went up.you shouldn't even be trading if you think that's how trading works
>BAYER yesterday -16 - 18%>DAX today again where it was yesterday despite BAYER still down>Nothing else really majorly up, BMW, Volkswagen, Porsche even down>Ok, Siemens has +1,32%I have the feeling those indices are not really working as intended.
>>56730103probably a one time special div, but can't be confident since you didn't bother mentioning the stock.
>>56729954Let's keep this between us buddy ok?
>>56730137>that's why valuations change abruptly overnight based on news, because both buyers and sellers suddenly change their opinion about valuationAnd then whether there are net buyers or net sellers will then add or remove liquidity from the market as they process the news and a new price equilibrium is formed
>>56730112Nice, thanks. So, how long you been fucking with charts like this on tradingview? Also it says you ran out of studies for your subscription so I guess they want you to step up to whatever the next tier price is and pay them more money per month or what?
I'm all in on sand, construction materials and shipping. What am I in for?
>>56730162Like 3 years, but probably the best thing to do is to go in with a plan, have defined risk, and actually follow your plan to the letter. Risk management and psychology are the best things to pick up if you want to trade long term>subsI don't need more than a few indicators for the moment, I can shuffle them around if needed
>>56730146Fucking 4chan keeps insisting its spam. Cant post their company name
>>56730141anon -18% on bayer only moves DAX -0.6%half of that was taken out by SAP alone
>>56730176Idk, but you can come to my back yard, I will sell you all the sand, dirt, and rocks you can carry
>>56730162>>56730177Oh wait sorry, that's 3 years of TView in general. This particular strategy for 3-4 months. It seems somewhat reliable, but it's also something that can be bruteforced and back tested with daily OHLCV data.I have an iron butterfly open on WMT >>56729952 targeting 160 to 170, but I have no idea if it'll work or not, since it did gap down.
>>56730180Well mis spell it for us
>>56730176>construction materials and shipping>when a global recession is just startinglmao
SMG up top on the catalog is what I like to see.
>>56730194What expiration, and how much has it moved since you bought it?
>>56730188Bayer is still +2% of the DAX. SAP is 11% but it didn't move very much, it didn't do 2-3% to even things out.Telekom with 7% is also 1% down.I don't see the counterweight to the -18% as cars like BMW are also down.
>>56730176depends on war or recession and also if you're holding forever or just stealing some momentum and move the capital elsewhere.
>>56730176>sandAn AROC/GEOS type frack deal? Should be boring as hell.>construction materialsIf it's home-related, not great. If it's Fed-construction-stimulus-related, should do fine.>shippingContainers, dry bulk, and #TankerGang are all different and the companies within each are all very different.
>>56730210It's literally on that chart, entered Nov 16 after the gap down, expiring Dec 15th. If I'm wrong it's like $70 down, and if I'm right, it's $400 up. There's other reasons too, like there being a fairly strong support around 155
Rheinmetall is less than 1%, even less than Vonovia.
>>56730176Construction materials eh? I am guessing steel company stocks, maybe copper? Those have been doing very well for me. Metal stocks in fact are doing tremendously well. Infrastructure is being built like crazy in the US. Hell, not just the US.Copper is a bit of mixed bag. I was up +50% on my copper stocks but now only +15%.Depends entirely on the US and China. Assuming inflation keeps getting tamed and China fixes their property or at least keeps supporting their crashing real estate sector, we might see a huge resurgence in copper and it might spill over to other materials as well.A good read>https://home.treasury.gov/news/featured-stories/unpacking-the-boom-in-us-construction-of-manufacturing-facilities
Imagine buying and holding sand like lmao might as well go long on salt too. That shit will run out any day now.
>>56730245>Copper is a bit of mixed bag. I was up +50% on my copper stocks but now only +15%.Pray to Peru and Panama. Concentrate on the protesters. We can end copper exports here. We can end them for all time.
>>56730232Yes but how much has the spread itself changed since you bought it? I've done a lot of butterflies over the past few years, but hardly ever do iron butterflies. I'm still amazed sometimes on how they move, and how I sometimes make money on them even when I shouldnt
>>56730201 C (as in company) V (as in virgin) R (as in nigger)
>>56730201Also found Corenergy paying about 40%
>>56730112based. The comedy/tragedy will proceed.
>>56730261Oh, fuck knows. Im eating a defined loss of $70 if I'm wrong, which was my entry plan; I intended to hold until expiry. Might exit early ealry dec if it hasnt gone my way and save a few pennies... I understand spreads and greeks just fine, but I always find a way to fuck the trade
Fire in its advance will judge and convict all things. Be the fire. Buy Uranium.
>>56730273Forgot to double check, its the name i provided followed by "Partners". It goes by UAN
>>56730217it depends a little on which version of DAX and underlyings you're usingbayer -18% but it only makes up 3.6% of DAX = -0.65%NYSE version of SAP gapped up (which I assume is from the london open) and ended +2.2% since Friday close; at 11% of DAX that's +0.24%is it really unbelievable that 38 other companies couldn't hold the DAX up 0.4%? expecting bayer to tank DAX is like expecting meta to tank the whole nasdaq, if the stock went to 0 it'd still only be -3% to the index
>>56730334looks like they paid out bigly in 2023 due to getting lucky with shortages of nitrogen/ammonia. however their last quarterly div was $1.55, while they paid $10/share in Q1/Q2 and $4 in Q3. if the market believed they were going to be able to pay high divs in the future, the stock price would be much higher.
My posts are getting deleted wtf
>>56730388Checked and probably an evil fedspook jannie.
>>56730373Well, i figured it would be good to be true or a one time catch i missed out on. At least it makes me feel better regarding other companies that pay out a consistent dividend and currently are valued at 10% their annual dividend yield
>>56730339I'm not talking about tanking, I'm talking about at least keeping it lower. But the DAX recouped it all. And why you are including Friday close, I don't get. Bayer tanked yesterday and pulled DAX down and today (tuesday) we are up again.
Right when they start talking about someone named "Skekleberg" coming up next on Squak Box NATGAS tanks even lower.
>>56730488The overnight sessions are so detached from the actual sentiment that they might as well go backwards.It'll just twitch every which way like a severed hand until you hook it back up to the current of volume.It's a good time to buy in.
>>56730443>I'm not talking about tanking, I'm talking about at least keeping it lower. 1 company will never do shit to a 40 company index ever>And why you are including Friday close, I don't get.because these are german companies and I'm using the NYSE prices; the premarket gap up still counts because it's market hours in europe>Bayer tanked yesterday and pulled DAX down and today (tuesday) we are up again.look man if you just want to believe the illuminati is fucking with you then power to youthere's 40 companies in DAX and a bunch of them went up yesterday and this morningif you don't believe it then get out your paper and pencil and add it up for all 40 companies
>>56730231I'm more bullish on car shipping than anything you listed. Chinese exports about to start ramping hard.And shorting the ships that ship people (cruise lines)
>>56730488Me on the left, acting nice, waiting for the moment to pound that bitchmarket
>>56730231Canadian wood supplies and steel, and in sand we got sum Italian cement company, one US fracker.Shipping we rolling two containers and one tänker. Container shipping sold off like crazy, I regard it as a slurp and will DCA until next cycle. Long term or no term baby, can't keep up with all these micromovwments. Every good macro play I've done, I've always pulled out way too early and missed huge gains, like the pissrock deal. I literally pulled out in April.
>>56730547>1 company will never do shit to a 40 company index ever>Meanwhile S&P equalweight, 7 companies pull up 500
From the moment I understood the weakness of my unleveraged equities, it disgusted me. I craved the gains and certainty of leverage. I aspired to the purity of the 3x Bull ETF. Your kind cling to your dividends, as though they will not decay and fail you. One day the crude index you call the Shit and Piss 500 will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, for the Leverage is immortal… Even in death I serve the Neon Greenissiah.
oil demand concerns deez nuts
>>56730575Whats the reasoning for an american to invest in non german european stocks?
>>56730576nobody uses equalweight indices and if DAX was equalweight then bayer would have had even less effect you nerdi hope you learned your lesson that if you want to short a company then short that company and not some huge uncorrelated market index
>donut & monsterBreakfast of champions
>>56729902You realize everyone has feet, right?Do you have an amputation fetish or something?
When do I use leverage? Why not just put in the money if I have it? If I don't and the trade goes sideways I'd be fucked.>>56730488That bear is probably getting tortured
>>56730755All bobo's are perpetually being tortured
>>56730706>everyone has feet,Gross. Stop reminding me.
>>56730642Biggest one would be that he's a europoo
>>56730642>european stocks*emerging markets
>>56729902Feet posters are just above trannys/cucks on the pecking order.
Looking good today
>>56730838Lum posters > all
>giant corporations like meta are pumped by state pension fund money>companies get clown marketcaps, social media companies worth near trillion dollars >same states will spend advertising money to attack said companies and make them look like bad guys (they're just cycling profits back from said big companies while giving big companies backroom deals)When did you realize it was all a clown game and bitcoin/xmr absorbing all the fiat and making state governments irrelevant was a good thing for destroying/rebuilding the stock market?
>>56730869She has a special allure that is for sure.
Anyone got that webm of the indian serving a big brown ball of something to people in a cafeteria?
>>56730869>no amount of stocks will ever get you a sexy alien gf
>>56730871>muh fake and gay "money" with arbitrary randomized "value" in constant wild flux
>>56730814>>56730832Im european and Im not that deluded
>>56730891Its the smell of ozone that will do that
It's over, the euphoria has peaked, the +11% in 16 sessions, finished...
What's up with this sharp dump starting around 6:30 this morning? Just random or was there some Euro news or something
Should I join a private investment fund? Several years ago some of my friends(and their friends) started talking about setting up a joint investment fund. They started doing research, sharing ideas, knowledge and what not and two years ago they finally went with it. At the time I noped out of it because I didn't trust the guy they chose to run the fund. However, in two years the fund made a really strong roi and I'm considering joining in with 200k - 300k. Here are some cliff notes. >The fund is officially registered >They started with around 2 million USD >Made 28% return in 2022 and 41% this year to date >They don't accept investors from outside >Super transparent, investors can see all transactions CEO, the guy they chose to run the fund, is a college drop out poker player. He plays mid stakes cash games online. From what I know he made some early investment in BTC, but cashed out in 2017 top with half a million and missed 2021 bull run. Never had a normal job. During the period when they were discussing he was the most active and was doing a lot of research on stocks so "friends" just asked him to run the fund. He gets paid a flat salary + % from profit. My friends who know him from high school say he is a super genius. Friends can discuss and make suggestions, but ceo is making all final decisions. From what I hear he is not explaining anything to anyone and most of the friends are not actively monitoring anything. They just sit back and check their accounts from time to time. Don't know if it's a reason for concern, but he is very passive. In January and February he bought Microsoft, Meta, Cameco, BTC, but since then he has been very inactive. His last acquisitions were 4 months ago: more Microsoft, Ulta and Ukrainian stock TATM. His investment in a Ukrainian company, although small, also looks very risky. Not sure what to think about it... So should I jump in or should I stay out of it? What you think?
Expecting a pump premarket on esMild dump to 453.5xPossible further flush to 452.4xProbably hold unless they send fud. The whole world waits on nvidia earnings so we just crab all day probably.
>>56730981Consult your financial advisor
Sup Faggets,I'm back after my two week ban. Apparently after being banned 45 times they increase your 3dayers to 2 weekers. I'd just like to give a shout out to the faggot who reported me. Keep being a faggot, faggot. Now, who's ready for the Santa Cruz rally?
>pre marketmost obvious bear trap ever imagined.
>>56731004Or we shoot out the gate flying and dump on nvidia earnings later
I've got 32k and thinking about setting up a CD and bond ladder just to get that 5.5% 4k each maturing quarterly
>>56731014Right?? It's kind of out of nowhere as far as I can tell. Must be great to be some faggot with enough money to manipulate premarket like this
>>56731011I'm not your biggest fan but i'd rather talk shit to you than have you banned.
>>56731011>Santa Cruz rallyImagine the smell. Unpleasant.
>>56731026This price action is just a reactions to the norks launching another missile. Shit happens every time.
>>56730880Look at this clown bullshit. They stopped growing in real advertising profits when you consider bots around the time trump became president. Facebook is dead. Tiktok blew a hole in their social media companies, their answer to interest rate hikes and wasted capex spending was firing already useless people. Still a higher marketcap then fucking bitcoin or any sector stock not in tech. You could atleast spare microsoft and say their marketcap is more reasonable and deserved but a bit high but this company? Tell me its not china funneling money into states and states moving it into pension funds then government/corporate execs cashing out a bloated stock at same time then when these stocks crash its "budget deficit solved". Then any retail cuck in an index/ETF holding a stock like pic related thats overweight (coincidence) gets rugged.
What mining stock do you hold?
>>56731021i use CDs for my emergency fund, but my bank doesn’t charge any penalty beyond the interest earned, so they’re very liquid.
>>56731011>two week banThat's unfortunate. You probably weren't here to notice that we were all slurping SAVE at $9 last week.On the bright side, it's still not too late to buy in before Biden's DoJ loses the trial and this thing triples.
>>56731059I got some SVM
>>567310112 weeks wasn't enough...
>>56731011Hopefully it was for a good reason.https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1700248179774711.webm
Where is my peter lynch nigger?
What if we ran a screener on all the small cap stocks with positive cash flow, low p/es and low debt?
Time traveler here, I've come here to warn you /smg/.Today, the stock market will move in certain directions, some stocks will gain and some will lose, a small number will also be flat for the day once the bell closes. Things will happen in the financial world today that will, in the long-term, influence the stock market in positive or negative ways, or both.Do with this information what you will.
>>56731057Btw meta painting a solid double top on the monthly chart. I might reposition for a fat short on this fucker.
>>5673112690 percent of mining microcraps won't pass threshold?
>>56731063I keep 6k in my savings but sold some covered calls that were assigned and don't think now is a good time for reentry. 5.5% is hard to pass up
>>56731009I don't have financial advisor and don't think they can give a meaningful advice anyway.
>>56731144I'm thinking that the high interest rates are going to make companies that need to refinance their debt as their loans mature are going to put the squeeze on a lot of companies, so maybe if we invest in companies that have better financials we can get better returns?
>>56730039>he thinks knowing the earnings ahead of time on the day of will help you make moneyyou new to this, nigger?
>>56730755>When do I use leverage? Why not just put in the money if I have it?if you have +EV then leverage is a good way to accelerate your gains as long as you don't expose yourself to undue risk while doing itfor example, LEAPS (deep ITM contracts expiring 6-24 months from now) are a good way to get 1.5-3x leverage with a very similar risk profile to just owning the stock
>>56731176Last I looked META has ZERO debt. Is that still true? Good position to be in
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What the fuck was that?!
>>56731037someone has been to Santa Cruz before kek
>>56731194They fail to meet the small cap, and low p/e criteria. I'm trying to find those small cap stocks that have the potential to become medium or big cap stocks. That way we can make big returns on relatively small investments.
>>56731214This guy is good. Better than bagfag, big5goy, lunchanon, rockfag, and poemboglim.
Why does this faggot market just dump whenever the headlines don't suck the Fed's cock? Fuck this stupid shit market, it's a HOLIDAY WEEK GO THE FUCK UP YOU FAGGOT RETARDS
>>56731222You aren't going to trick someone into doing the legwork for you. You have been here long enough to know we don't do research here.
>>56731214It's going to be a good day
>>56731222nice trips. I wonder if it makes sense to focus on those small caps that are connected to a larger trend (AI) as those seem to be the ones that grow long term. Godspeed Baggie
>>56731234Thanks for reminding me I miss lunch bro. D=
INTEREST IS UPAND THE STOOKS MARKET'S DOWNCHOPPIN' UR DICKSDON'T MAKE YOU WOMEN NOWVerification not required.
>>56729493VZ BROSI FEEL VERY GOOD
>>56731176Yes, if they don't go bankrupt in meantime. I ain't going to microshits that are not listed on major stock exchanges. Also did you notice that no one is talking about Greenland microcaps like for example GreenX Metals (most of the team involved in Sovereign Metals that was shilled by Rick Rule and recently get investment by Rio Tinto) that is belived to win arbitration against Poland and get a fat pile of cash they can spend on drilling that fucking huuuge ARC Project with shallow high grade Copper? That stocks is iterally being discussed only by German and Polish investors, Australians rarely speak about it despite the fact that GreenX team is Australian. Looks seroiously strange. Also that generic name that makes them hide between few companies with same name and even some crypto named GreenX. Is this some sort of camouflage? BTW Rio Tinto was investing in companies active on Greenland in the past.
>>56731194Is company that is so darn overvalued a good investment? How long have you been into investing? You sound like you started this morning.
>>56731238EVs are the gold rush. I'd rather sell the shovels.
>>56731254I'm not interested in buying mining stocks. They're too vulnerable to having their businesses completely fucked by the libshit's war on fossil fuels.
>>56731281they are currently at historic lows also good luck to libs doing green transformation without intesifying mining at least threefold
BOIL bros, there's a nat gas storage report tomorrow, how are we feeling? I came so close to offloading my bags a couple weeks, then the bottom fell out (again).
>>56731252That hitpiece on AT&T and VZ a few months ago about lead lining in the legacy cables was such obvious manipulation. I didn't time the bottom just right but things look pretty good now.
>>56731277So you are invested in silver, copper and lead mining?
>>56731310I wish I'd dumped my UNG last week for about a 6% profit but as for now I'm slurping a little here and there and remaining patient.
My PYPL and Lean Hogs bags AAAAAAAAAAAA
>>56731306It's not about having a successful transformation to green energy, it's about complete government control over everything retard. It's going to be implemented so haphazardly that we're all going to be standing in line for bread, but there's not even going to be any bread.
>>56731310I sold a bunch in the green last Monday to prepare for the double report last Thursday, expecting it to be negative. This Monday I sold 50 shares at a loss and am just holding 100 while I wait patiently for it to show a strong enough floor, then I'll start cautiously piling back in. Right now it's looking like somewhere around 2.88 is a floor but not quite strong enough for me to confidently buy again. It's dipped into 2.85 some this morning.
>>56731312I bought a bunch of shares for 33 bucks. Pretty good deal. Unfortunately i can't invest every month, so i kind of missed the bottom too, but that's okay.
>>56731234>lunch anonTake it back!!! I desperately miss his siggis posting, and his cute little lanklet twink lunches.
Are Hycroft Mining shorts being covred or it's shares buyback or just investors reentering after 1 to 10 backsplit? That's a serious price movewithin a week
>>56731356>no breadMaybe in your rat race infested moloch cities.
i have a coal position so am making an pepe for it. here is failed version first.
>>56731359>Right now it's looking like somewhere around 2.88 is a floor but not quite strong enough for me to confidently buy again. It's dipped into 2.85 some this morning.These numbers are for NATGAS directly, btw.
>>56731397Some European miners or other continents? Tgere are interesting coal stocks in Poland and Ukraine
closed my short and longed the top again
>>56731409murrica. seems to be going down now so i got in too late.its a small position so i can let it ride for longer
>>56731426nvda gonna save us all hopefully
>>56731435It's pinksheet? Or there are murrican coal miners on major exchanges? I see coal as longer term play (which means few years, typically more than 3)
>>56731426we're not dropping below 451 and some change imo unless they want to pander to the "nvdia savedthe world.... yay for ai" sentiment that seems to be growing.
>>56731450Everybody knows goblina posters sit at the bottom of the caste.
>>56730869Lum posting has always been a pretty good indicator that we've reached the local top. Harbinger of bad Nvidia earnings.
Anons my spy puts expire at eod at $451.This means we should see $457 by eod.Regards,The Coombler
NVDA must crash
>>56731447g-sus fucking creest you still holding that overvalued crap? You must have balls of steel. PE ratio of 121 is the most red flag possible.
>>56731477ty for your service o7
Ha ha ha I love waking up and being 3% down for literally no discernable reason
>Nearly All of OpenAI Staff Threaten to Go to Microsoft If Board Doesn’t Quitkek how do you fuck up this badly
Do you feel in charge, /smg/?(the prompt for this was jerome powell as a futuristic bounty hunter)
Soare you all ready for NVDA to shit the bed>so uh yeah, we thought China would buy $8 billion worth of semis.. but now we aren't allowed to sell to them.. sorry!!!!
>>56731495Something something patient from impatient.
>>56731485The only more red flag was when PE ratio reached 141
>>56731510As usual, the never-NVDA crowd completely missed the part where Nvidia just made an entirely "new" chip just for the markets they couldn't sell their other chips to
>>56731463nasdoggie. METC.i bought it only cos of the chart. its now been going down for like 5 days.
>>56731518Also that chart looks like a textbook hockeystick screaming "bubble"
prepare your buttholes bobos
>>56731510china will just set up a buyer in a different country and reroute
>>56731525How warm will it keep your house and how many calories per serving does it have ?
>>56731485i bought a earnings play yesterday. goat gpu maker. i want to believe
>>56731525Yes another 8 billion sales over a year period! That means the market cap should jump to 2 maybe 3 trillion?
>>56731525the chip that they were forced to sell instead is not worth anywhere close to the $$$ figure that they originally had planned / had agreed to sell >um yeah, sorry, we can't sell you the $10,000 chip>but we can sell you some of these $2,000 chips instead!
Just sold $50k of NVDA stock at 500. Ready to buy back in when we but 300. See you at the bottom
>>56731555>>56731553It's cute when you fags just make shit up and pat yourselves on the back. What will you say when they beat earnings later today?? Bet you'll be gone lol
>>56731552Ever heard term "Dotcom bubble burst"?
>>56731518>company makes 3x its usual earnings>price goes up 3x>"IT'S A BUBBLE"
>>56731525The thing about NVDA today is that it would have to see its valuation rise a trillion dollars to double from here. Then to double again, 2 trillion more.NVDA already doubled twice this past year. Why bother chasing that?There are plenty of other trades out there offering much stronger upside potential.
Everything is going according to plan.
post nvidia short proof or leave
>>56731583Yes, doing 3x earnings in a year is a pretty good indicator it's about a time to evacuate in all recent bubbles.You think that's a sustainable growth in next years? I don't.
>>56731585To steelman their position, I would say what makes that possible is the neverending money printing. Which also hastens the end of Zogmerica, so it's still a win.
>>56731585...why does it need to double? Why is that where you've placed the goalposts for today?
>>56731577Earnings don’t matter tard. The buybacks do
>>56731614Infinite money printing applies to all assets, like a rising tide lifting all boats.So the point still stands, in a relative sense.
>>56731615Look at PE ratio. Saying it needs to just double is a rose glasses optimism.
>>56731601Why would we lie about a contrarian position? Everyone is shitting on NVDA shorts right now. I don't get why we would lie. The cool thing is to be long NVDA right now.
What options should I get for SAVE or should I just buy some shares?
>>56731578yes and look at nvidia 22 years since then. it makes parts for the internet machines.
>>56731622I know, I'm just saying. They lose either way if they're right.
>>56731605>new products are a bubble heckin sell guys they made too much money this year!!!!!
>>56731359>>56731398I'm trying to decide what to do. I need /NG to jump about 12-13% to get BOIL to my breakeven ($54). Currently have 500 shares. The question is, do I sell off some (or all) of my position in preparation for tomorrow's report? Or hold on the chance that it's positive? It would be heartbreaking to miss a bounce, but so would losing more money.
>>56731615>...why does it need to double? Why is that where you've placed the goalposts for today?Because I invest to earn a return...?It doesn't have to double immediately, but if it compounds higher from today then at some point it will necessarily trade at double today's valuation relative to the rest of the market. Unless this is a permanent peak.The purpose of contemplating what it takes to grow further from here is to clarify the absurdity of the momentum based view that NVDA's past wins guarantee it will continue to grow exponentially beyond the pace of the rest of the stock market infinitely into the future.
>>56731677>it's impossible to be overvalued when you're selling something!Yeah nah you're as retarded as NVDA doomers.I'm short NVDA but I do think they have a good business. It's possible to think that while thinking they're running on hype right now you -1 IQ fucktard.
>>56731680You sell that shit and load up on SPY puts expiring in late december.Shit's gonna get wild anon.
>>56731637my jewish investment system creator said pe is shit measurement in his book.
The S&P has returned 0% over the last 2 years. CPI has increased 10% over that timeframe. S&P dividends have grown 17% over the past 2 years. It’s time get serious about investing>>56720216>>56720216
>>56731637PE ratios haven't been important for at least 6 years now
>>56731658dafaq it has to the fact it's overvalued? Just because it may be around in 2022 years does not guarantee it would stay at this gigantic overvaluation. Just study dotcom buble charts and how long it took to go back for many companies back then.
>>56731690Yeah if the price goes up the number goes higher. I don't know what your point is.
>>56731699The "we" makes sense given the context. You're asking all bobos to post proof. When we post proof you sperg on semantics. We can't please you people.
>>56731694How much are you down anon
>>56731577>make shit up https://asiatimes.com/2023/11/nvidia-to-test-chinese-markets-with-slower-chips/>“The H20’s overall computing power is only equivalent to 20% of that of the H100, meaning that there is room for price cut,” >China’s orders involving US$5 billion worth of Nvidia chips have reportedly been canceled.China’s orders involving US$5 billion worth of Nvidia chips have reportedly been canceled>China’s orders involving US$5 billion worth of Nvidia chips have reportedly been canceled
>>56731690>The purpose of contemplating what it takes to grow further from here is to clarify the absurdity of the momentum based view that NVDA's past wins guarantee it will continue to grow exponentially beyond the pace of the rest of the stock market infinitely into the future.Stop being logical. These cucks don't like logic.
>>56731693please quote where i said it's impossible that nvda is overvalued you dishonest little shit
>>56731695It is not the best, but when it's this huge it's time to GTFO more often than not.Like other measures look any better BTW.
>>56731694Why would you short into the Santa Cruz Rally? Do you hate X-mas?
>>56731703What is the most common mark of bubble?What is an average bubble length?
nooooo i'm gonna-i'm gonna cut the output soooooo harddd sttaahhhpppp!!!!!
>>56729597AH means after hours Mr Buffett
>>56731680And to add to it, the markets are closed Thanksgiving and close at 1pm on Friday, making exit opportunities more limited.
>>56731823emoticon for salutingwelcome to the internet
lol what the fuck is even going on? Why would anyone be selling like this? Jesus fucking christ I hate the squirrelly faggots that make days like this happen
beautiful day, todayTuesday morning
>>56731680I can't make that call, but my present breakeven is $52, and I intend on buying a *lot* more up under it when the floor seems to be sure enough, and I expect the existing shares to make at least around $8 per at some point ahead, but (((who))) knows. When I'm working a position I always try to keep it properly balanced with the dry powder in proportion to where I think it might go, to where it's likely to go, and to where it *can* go. This balance keeping includes cutting portions loose if I am convinced enough it might go substantially lower, so that not only will the remaining position not get dragged too deeply but so that I can rebuy lower.
>>56731852There is a distinct possibility the chip sale to china did not go as planned for NVIDIA. Stockholders may be repositioning for this possibility.
>>56731852Thanksgiving holiday weekend approaches.
>>56731701Are you being stupid or dishonest?A 17% gain on 2-5% of your capital are not comparable to gains on the entire package. Divvy stocks also usually come with steady loss of principal.
if you're sperging out over a -0.50% on the S&P 500 maybe it's time to realize you can't handle the positions you're in
>>56731852It'll bounce back before we take our break to eat a mid day meal.
>>56731770We're not in your average bubble, and I won't act as if what we're experiencing is anything but a big bubble. To me, the common mark of a bubble is unaffordability of a thing for the average consumer. Housing for instance. Money printing has completely detached risk from the market. Nothing is truly grown organically anymore. Not since 2008
>>56731852>he doesn't know about the thingIts over
>>56731863I will add though that there are indeed times I have missed poomps but them's the breaks.
From now on this is strictly a scalper's market.Welcome to the trading floor you fuckwitsGood luck
I hate how every single 5 year chart looks exactly like the "We're in a bubble" chart but if I give into fear my options are either give up and lose to inflation, be wrong and lose all my money, be right and gain maybe a little bit as we go flat for 10 years.It's like there is no winning moves no matter what you do
>>56731879Housing is only unaffordable for the poor. Just stop being poor.
>>56731908assets are priced in fiat currency whose supply is exponentially increasing, so any resonably viable investment will have an expontentially growing chart because of inflationit blows my mind just how fucking stupid the people that post here are
>>56731908There must be alternative locations to store your money, like in a bond.
>>56731908Buy bonds (those are very cheap right now) or go hard with speculation and buy crypto (that’s pretty cheap compared to where they were too)
>>56731879>We're not in your average bubble, and I won't act as if what we're experiencing is anything but a big bubble.Typicall bullshit "investors" belive in every single bubble.>To me, the common mark of a bubble is unaffordability of a thing for the average consumer. Housing for instance.Have you been slipping for last months?>Money printing has completely detached risk from the market. Nothing is truly grown organically anymore. Not since 2008Inflation of supply erodes values of stocks faster than they grow. Ever heard of crackup boom? Just because chart goes higher does not translate to you gaining purchasing power by holding such stock. Smaller caps that are fairly priced or undervalued still beat overpriced crap in such environment.
>>56731927Thankfully you're here to educate us stupid people.
>>56731852No one wants to hold over a weekend, especially a long one
finished my coal pepe meme. give ratings please.
>>56731874That's why you buy "dividend appreciation"And all long term infaltion adjusted returns of the wider market come from dividends
Buddy check VIX Computer
>>56731761very short term short because nothing goes to infinity in a straight line.
>>56731863>>56731895Very logical reasoning, Anon. Given the risks and the upcoming holiday (i.e., more limited opportunities to bail), I think I'll sell off most of my position, maybe hold 100 or 200 shares. If it tanks I'll buy back in.(This means there's a 100% chance BOIL will shoot up to 60 tomorrow lol.)
wtf I just woke up and I'm losing money
>>56731908You can hold cash at 5% you retarded fucking nigger. You can buy gold, you can buy foreign markets
>>56731989>coal>Looks like black power fist Was this intentional or and I still druk
someone bake i have important post to make
>>56732036i think drunk and obsessed with bbc in ur mind.
OOOOHH IM DOOMPING
>>56731879https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u-s-existing-home-sales-drop-in-october-to-lowest-level-since-2010-d9bac5b8I have very bad news for you
>>56731927I did some math shit for giggles a couple months ago, to answer a simple question. How much gold could I buy with my job in 1963 vs 2023? https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.32106020105968&seq=26Per this ^^^ source, page 12, Engineer IV (senior engineer) made about $10,000 a year. Gold was $35/oz. So I could buy 285 ounces with a years salary. 285 ounces today is worth $572,000. I make $113,000.
>>56731059SGMLTECK.BBIGNTRCOPX & URNM too if you count those
>>56732104>SGMLWhy?It already pumped.
>>56731879HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHA*inhales*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHoh - you were serious?HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA>the common mark of a bubble is unaffordability of a thing for the average consumer. Housing for instance.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA>Monthly payments on a $400,000 home are now nearly $1,000 more expensive than they were two years ago>It means the standard monthly payment on a $400,000 house has shot up from $1,582 to $2,480Reminder: $400K = median Reminder: people cannot afford a $2500 a month mortgage L M A OGenuinely, this post right here >>56731879the most funny, comical post that has been posted all day
>>56732007Yeah, my inner bet is that I'm going to miss out on at least some poomping but I prefer that to having my capital stuck in deeper and deeper red, and if it does do a little poomper then it will restore some of the confidence needed to buy moar back on the next dipparino after it. This is just a simple quick way of describing complex things because I might buy small bits all up and down it depending on what is happening and why it is happening (the apparent fundamentals behind whatever moves it makes, like weather projections or global macro shit). I do a lot of patient sitting and watching and working all this shit but it always proves to be worth it at some point.
>>56732148>>56731879sorry - I'm wrong - wasn't following your discussion with the other anon closely, thought you were the one denying the bubble, saying we're not in a bubble, look at housing for instance
>>56732164It's ok, I only cried a bit. I won't punch a wall or anything.
>>56732164yes,he was the one denying
>>56732007>>56732151I read the summary here every day to keep some pulse:https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/natural-gasand here each morning (Daily Commentary near top right):https://www.celsiusenergy.net/
im up 7,4% in a weeks timefeels good boys
How long till NVDA earnings?
>>56732187Sorry, english is my first language and I forgot /smg/ is full of browns
And as we speak, NATGAS just shot up to 2.91
>>567322215 hours 30 minutes
>>56732099The best part is In 1963 there was less gold in circulation than today, you've had 60 years of modernized mining pulling that shit out of the ground at record pace making the value of gold even higher back then than it is today.
Today I will remind them
This is some extra retarded price action on semiconductors today
I sharted the market
>>567320991963 didn't have market set gold prices. You should probably be using ~1982 as a comparison because that's after you got a full cycle of new supply coming online due to being able to sell it for more than $35
fomc minutes at 2pm, thoughts?
Mumu status : ORGASM DENIED
>>56732284I like that too, but 1982 is post-Nixon shock. And I really consider the time before the Nixon shock to be before buying power broke down.
>>56732284More like 1976
>>56732291pah pah pah pump it up
>>56731732That's what you fucking implied, cunt
>>56732300Unironically zero reason for red today aside from completely retarded speculation
What ammount of money would you say you have made it? I for one would be happy with an average of 1000 dollars in dividends on a monthly basis, if i can live well in my country with that then i figure i could spend my days blowing coke out of asiatic hookers, alas i started out late
>>56732014The life of a goyim
>>56732284https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/1982/10/rpt2full.pdfEngineer IV, senior engineer, made $34,443.Gold was $376/ozI could buy 92 oz with my yearly salaryToday I can buy maybe 50 oz
>>56732339No one can buy anything. You can't milk the lower class indefinitely.
>>56731877That cat needs help
>>56732345>What ammount of money would you say you have made itAs long as I have enough to get through each day with basic, humble needs, I'm there.
>>56732411Yes, just because I used the memeword doesn't mean you didn't imply it, cunt
>>5673240225x your yearly expenses. Everyone knows that.
>>56732339There are plenty of reasons to be red but we won't be.