>>50758345is this the same anon that posts over and over again? i refuse to believe that there are so many mech engineers on this board
>>50758428Mech engineering is the most popular engineering major. There are a lot of us unfortunately
>studied mechanical engineering for 2 years before dropping out and switching to com sci>debugging slaveFuck
>broke neet leeching off parents
>>50758498this looks like it could be comfy but i wouldn't want to deal with any actual threats, does anything ever actually happen? what shift do you work?>t.weakling
>>50758428They’re demoralization threads, because mechE is actually not a bad degree. Just not the best choice. >t. biochem
>>50758672I worked as a security guard a long time ago, it's literally getting paid to sit at a desk and do nothing. My coworkers were the kind of vacant headed niggers who think "OMG THIS IS THE GREATEST JOB EVER!"It's a good job if you're in school though, because you can easily study and do assignments during your shift. If you want to make a career out of security you should just get a shitty job with a big agency like Securitas, then once you have some "experience" either join the TSA or customs and border patrol.
>>50758345could be worse man>fiber optics retard degreeended up jobless in a year after market collapsed
>>50758686In real world, there is no such thing as "mechanical engineer" anymore. Most machines today are electronic and digital in nature. No one needs "mechanical engineers" to build fucking chassis.
>24>salary only $63,000gonna kill myself. engineering is a scam
>>50758859You can unironically make more than that as a truck driver.
>>50759426Yeah, because mechanical engineering is a dead career field with horrendous opportunities that boomers and guidance counselors scam bright young students into going into. Literally, what’s the first thing anyone says about a Mech eng degree? “It’s so flexible!”, it’s another way of saying you’re not going to end up working as a mechanical engineer because all the mechanical engineering jobs are horrendous, low paying trash and the boomers that hire for them are retards that will pay you as much as a retail worker while demanding more and more out of you. At my college they released stats on what the students with the highest incoming ACT/SAT were choosing for their major, it was overwhelmingly ME and EE. The STEM scam has gone on long enough, these degrees were good in 1973 before the US deindustrialized, now they are total fucking scams and if you have any brains you should go into programming or finance or medicine, all three of which are total fake and gay scams.
>>50758686mech eng is a fucking terrible degree and i will actively tell anyone do not fucking do it you will regret it for decades as you try and transition to a real career>>50758457you made the right choice anonengineering compensation is garbage and the work is horrible too>long hours>travel>shitty places>shitty coworkers>braindead monkey work>software does all of the heavy lifting now>career progression is glacial
>>50759532True, but it isn't just De-industrialisation, Engineering itself is ever evolving, see this >>50758834, gullible students get scammed by boomer academics and bureaucrats to study shit that is no longer in demand. The whole thing about Engineering being this collection of various fields is history, for example there is no thing such as "electrical engineer" in real world anymore, no innovation has happened in decades as far as electricals are considered, we already have all the blueprints of latest bulbs, fans and other appliances, and they are getting mass produced for cheap in some Chinese ODM factory, at best you need some technicians for maintenance and QA clerks.
>>50759440Electrical Engineering evolved into Computer Engineering long ago.
>>50758345I am so fucking glad I decided to not go into engineering and went the CS route instead, I would be making a fraction of my current TC
>>50758345>*laughs in EE*
>>50759870I have to agree, it was literally a difference of taking a few software courses instead of fluid dynamics and some op amp class when I went to school.>comp e degree, ee titles only
>>50758428im a mechanical engineer too. It's a field full of mouth breathers and nepotism kids. High IQ anons get out of it after a couple years. Either that or get married and get stuck at lockheed for 30 years
>helpdesk technician level I>cashier
>>50759803>lightbulbsMan, theres innovative fields you're just not in them. There's a lot of activity around high voltage/plasma applications and anything medical right now, some of us work in R&D.
Zoomer who briefly considered it here, how bad is it?
>>50760500Most R&D is done by Applied physicists rather than engineers, and few researchers in few universities are needed for stuff like this.
Took the opportunity
>>50760209> EEIt has been dead for almost half a century now. https://lateblt.livejournal.com/325098.htmlAlso see this >>50759803
>>50759870I only still say electrical because its what the program is still called
>>50760523you will start out and think it's good: your initial comp is competitive and you will be learning cad stuff which is fun for a monthvery quickly you will realise that cad is monkey work, that you never use your brain whatsoever, that you were horrendously overeducated, and that your coworkers are senile boomers who genuinely don't understand what they are doingyour mileage may vary here but personally i had to travel a lot to visit sites, instruct people, take photos, etc and this is just awful - it destroys your lifesome engineers just sit in offices poking around on cad and that sounds soul crushing in its own way but having to drive for hours and hours to be at some shitty factory, power plant, or pipeline in the middle of buttfuck nowhere to then sit in a glorified shipping container because the peons can't be trusted to give you measurements or whatever else for your cad is a poor way to spend your weekbeing a project manager is even worse because then you have to instruct the gormless peons about what to do and these monkey brained boomers who can't even spell "engineering" genuinely think they know better than you since they've been fitting pipe for 30 yearsthe fact they have never progressed beyond that in 30 years doesn't strike them as an indictment of their abilitiesso you can enjoy trying to wipe their asses as they do stupid shit like simply not install valves or sometimes install extra onesthat's exceptionally bad but it's always painful and these people seem to have a vendetta against basic shit like using welding screens purely out of petulanceonce you're finished on site you get to go back to a barebones hotel, assuming you didn't want to spend your whole paycheck on accommodation, and be bored and eat some takeout because there's no other option
>>50760711Sounds horrible. Geoprocessing it is, then.
>>50760523the real killer for it though is the career progressionthe aforementioned coworkers will all be divorced and have nothing in their lives besides work and be bizzarely proud of their work for being "real" or some nonsense and they will think that $70k total comp is still some sort of fantastic salary moreover they really don't need the moneyso they never negotiate and since they're your seniors you can't negotiate for more than them and they will sooner die than retire so you're just sat in limbo waiting for senior positions to open up when one of these fossils finally dieseven if you get one total comp is barely equivalent to numbers thrown around as starting tech salaries in the coastal states and you have a lot more bullshit to deal withthat was my experiencenot all engineers do site work but my options were stay in an office for a shitty salary or become a project manager and earn doublethe work is easy it is just incredibly time consuming, tedious, and requires you to be present a lot of the timein the age when working from home is finally taking off i cannot imagine why anyone would want to tolerate that shitif you're only middlingly intelligent, don't value your free time, can't get into sales, and can't work with computers it is still a better careerbeing a pm is a piece of piss most of them are useless and can't even hire plant or organise procurement whatsoever
>>50760796I'm so glad my engineering school tried to force the clot shot on me and made me switch to a math degree. Thanks for letting me know I didn't make a mistake
>>50759803You are a fool. EE extends far beyond appliances that plug into the wall or a logout fixture. PCB development is pure EE and still moving and innovating at a breakneck pace. As is the signal processing that you utilized on your phone (a result of decades of tons of electrical engineering) to make your stupid ass post. t. FPGA engineer
>>50760711God damn anon you're spot on and it's crushing my soul. Year 1 was fun. Years 2-6 were miserable doing exactly what you said. Finally I had enough and quit without having another job lined up. Ended up getting on board with a startup which doesn't have most of those problems, but has its own. At least I have my spot in the back corner of the workshop where I pretend to work but actually shitpost from my phone.
>>50760847make sure you do some computational courses and learn basic coding in your free timeprogramming, whether it's software, assembly, or even webdev is where the good careers are going to be for the foreseeable futureIT is a better career than engineering is now and it's probably going to stay that way
>>50760890Yeah it's a mix of math, comp sci, and data scienceBest of luck, I hope you can get out
>>50758345A mechanical/electrical engineering DEGREE is a valuable fucking thing. Most wannabe engineers get filtered by 2nd year thermodynamics and become econ or business majors. The guys who survive and finish are the high IQ ones.An engineering JOB on the other hand.....
>>50760796You actually earn double as a project manager? My engineering jobs have ended up with me acting as project manager as well as design engineer in almost all cases. That shit drove me up the fucking wall. Trying to get 8 different suppliers to deliver/install on time felt like being a yard wrangler for a special ed class.
>>50760872I'm an experimental physicist and I wish I was better at making circuits that aren't overwhelmingly an unidentifiably noisy.
>>50758834>>50759803>>50759554>>50760872I'm a Civil Engineer. Mechanical Engineers are required for big structures to design their machinery.You're gonna trust the swimming pool machinery of an olympic stadium to the fools that sell it?
>>50758345>Mechanical engineer* yawn *
>>50758428thing again chub
>>50760889i only actually did ~five years before i quit recently and it was the progression that made me quitwhile i was at least advancing i could tolerate all the shit because i had in my mind that i'd get to climb my way to somewhere but you just can't because ultimately the people getting paid the best salaries really aren't much better than you are they've just been there long enough to get those positionssoftware does everything now and there are enough regulations and laws that you can't even be creative - there is no demand for a truly great engineer to come up with some fantastic design when you can just follow the standard principles and make something pretty good that insurance companies will always greenlightmy impression and what i've heard is it isn't like this in software or the other fields worth going into: a good assembly engineer can demand whatever he wants because he is worth more than any number of bad jeetcoders>>50760942no but i did because i took over someone's role who retiredbeing a pm is awful but it isn't that hard it's just an augean task to make whatever percentage of retarded tradies you have do their jobif you have good tradies it's an autopilot job but you simply wont have all good peonsi never met anyone on six figures who wasn't a pm or offshore but i'm also in the uk
at l-least you arent c-civil eng or a chem eng, h-haha, that would suck to be t-them
>>50758569>>broke neet leeching off parents
>>50761029is chem that bad?i imagine civil is just the same as mechanicali'd've rather worked on public buildings than food factories and water treatment plants though
>>50760872>t. FPGA engineer That’s just software engineering but with more rules. I bet you use Vivado too. True electrical engineering is dead, get over it.
>>50760554Yeah I work with a good amount of PhD physics ect, they are literal retards in anything outside their field and lack the creativity to come up with new applications. Someone still has to build and iterate and typically engineers start the project to begin with, everyone else is involved in testing and analysis.
>>50761022>there is no demand for a truly great engineer to come up with some fantastic design Yeah one of the nice things about getting on with this startup company is they're doing really different shit and I've been really getting to really innovate and optimize rather than just draw shit that everyone already knows. I've used that to leverage myself a pretty decent raise, but still it isn't great money. I think the best way to go if you're truly good is start your own company for a new product you can claim intellectual property of, then get it good enough to sell to a big firm for a big payday.
>>50760872Bet you're busy with the shortage sill...Fucking Spartans
>be engineer>don't work on engines>don't conduct trains?
There were some ads for econ jobs on bloomberg terminal. Requirements were:Economy or engineering majorAnd 1-2 years of experienceIt was either broker or risk management I thinkI'll probably go this way, finish mech eng and move to big league gambing
>>50761184>be engineer>build train>become trainer?
>>50761143i mean my experience was>why don't we do this?>no we can't do that - the insurance company wont like it>do what we have done a hundred times before because it's the standardwhich makes sense it's just tediousand honestly i really wouldn't have cared if i was getting paid wellsure compared to the cattle i was paid well but not well enough to surrender basically my entire lifemaybe it's a difference between site work and working for a manufacturer or something since i'd be working for a client (typically a factory, power plant, or something like that) and it really was just braindead connect A to B to C and D to B which the cad will design for you then commissioni imagine designing the appliances is more involving but at the same time many of these appliances haven't fundamentally changed in decadescongradulations though anon hopefully you have a better experience than i do because i wouldn't wish that hell on any anon
>>50761210trainers is hard job tho. Death threats
Is it difficult to become a mechanical engineer? Seems like the most straightforward way to get a job in motorsports.
>>50761210>be trainer>don't work on trains>don't train body
>>50758345Why does it suck so bad?>Little dickweed I work with told me he wanted to be a civil engineer last year.>I cheered him on etc. >After his first year he's decided he wanted to be a mechanical engineer.>In the year I tried to bone his sister and she harshly rejected me. Having seen these threads on here this time I..>Cheered him on etc.
>>50761235as degrees go it's probably harder than most actually certainly much harder than it needs to bebut college is a joke and i wouldn't trust anyone who legitimately couldn't pass it to do anythingthe hardest thing you have to do is probably fluid dynamics, assuming you even have to, but you can just power through and learn bookwork if you're too stupid to fundamentally understand it
>>50761311checked and thanks, anon. I always thought fluid dynamics would be interesting.I've been out of highschool for a decade and was pretty bad at math when I was in. Is a mechanical engineering degree stupid to even think about for a mathlet?
>>50758345>majoring in MecElol it's not 1990 anymore. worthless degree
>>50761390>Is a mechanical engineering degree stupid to even think about for a mathlet?you could do it as a careeridk if you could pass the degreein america you waste a year catching up on what you ought to learn at high school anyway don't you? if you're motivated you could do it - imo anyone with any modicum of intelligence couldcolleges want you to pass they make it easy but most students are terribly lazyfluid dynamics is cooli love mathematics and to this day it's kinda fun seeing and understanding waves or smoke and thingsreally not sure why you'd want to thoughi'll echo myself>if you're only middlingly intelligent, don't value your free time, can't get into sales, and can't work with computers it is still a better careermech eng as a degree is interesting: as a career it is notsales might not be interesting but it can pay amazinglylogistics might not be interesting but pays better than mech engi would rather be sitting on a business management degree than my mech eng degree
>>50761224I feel you. I worked at industrial equipment suppliers and it was exactly what you described and then some. Plus even when I was brand new to the industry fresh out of school they sent me alone to clients' factories where we would be making custom equipment. I remember in my first client meeting we were discussing problems they had with their old equipment, and he said "I'll leave that up to you. You guys are the experts in this equipment..."Thinking back it almost seems like a comedy skit lmao.I quit my job shortly after that equipment i designed was installed. Sometimes I wonder if it still works but I think I'd rather not know.
>>50758345>Mechanical engineerWill have it's comeback. Many things we do today can be made more reliable with less cumbersome maintenance with mech engineering. Right now the pendulum has swing way waaaaaaaay into sensor tech. It'll settle in the middle in 20 years or so. https://engineeringbookspdf.com/download/?file=2290&format=pdf
>>50760500>>50761112Everything's done already.
>>50761235>job in motorsports Lmaooooooo good luck unless you're well connected with somebody in a racing team
>>50761390You'll have to get a C or better in calc 1-4 which could be difficult if you don't have a solid foundation to build on. Once you get to the actual engineering classes though, you hardly do any real math for yourself. In my school typically the professors showed the math of how equations were derived, then you basically just use the equations to plug and chug from there using high school level algebra and calc I.
>>50761480Thanks, anon. I get what you're saying, and I appreciate the candid words and valuable insight.
>>50761508I'm concurrently working on 3 things that don't exist.
if you're good at math and physics and like them then engineering is fine decision. if you suck at them and are good at verbal subjects then go for something related to that. business / econ is half verbal half math. law is verbal zero math and so on. medschool is half and half. enginering is math and very little verbal skills, verbal memory etc. requiredyou can easily look at your previous schools scores which subject you are good at. if you're math and physics scores sucked you are not going to "magically" improve in math once you decide to go engineering. most school numbers are less about practise people have natural talents for differen things
>>50761517>good luckOh, I know. There are a couple motorsports engineering programs in the US that say they will place you with teams, and I figured maybe I could volunteer at some nearby race tracks to maybe get close. >>50761561Ahhh, thanks.
>>50761507it wontmechanical solutions are the most efficient and imo elegant but electrical solutions are cheaper and cheaper and people trust themthere are already too many engineers and not enough work for them there is no reason to assume efficiency will become a major concernif anything, real engineering wages will remain stagnant or even go down as the work is increasingly moved towards the software side of things because people, not just boomers, think computers are magic and trust a digital display that reads "fluid level 40%" much more than they would a simple float gauge>>50761489i enjoyed working alone far more than when i was saddled with people honestlyit was ridiculous mismanagement to send a relatively new employee off on their own but everything about the job was ridiculousit sounds a lot more engaging and interesting than what i did - the most freedom i had was to design bracketry but that had to always be overkill because clients wouldn't trust anything less than absurd channel iron bracketsi remember using angle iron with ubolts to support piddly 4" 2mm thick stainless tubes, which was already overkill, and having to replace it all because the client thought it was going to fall down>>50761646have you even gone to college?are you actually retarded?
>>50761739De-globalization, resource scarcity will put an end to planned obsolescence. The need for reliable, efficient and long lasting machines will only grow.Look at Koenigsegg state of the art blend between mechanical engineering and electrical engineering. Utilizing the best of both worlds. I honestly think this will happen. Especially the way things are progressing.
>>50761260>be train>work on body's>manslaughter
>>50761800we will seei can only believe it if we actually enter serious scarcitycomputers are cheaper than ever thoughnot modern ones but a computer from 2004 is still way more powerful than most industrial application requiresand huge places literally use it systems older than thatengineering is cool i wish it wasn't in the state it is
>>50761852I recently visited a newly constructed paper mill and it was a very modern blend between mechanical engineering, sensortech and programming. Almost fully automatic. But many things was controlled mechanically which I thought was really smart and "new think", if you know what I mean. we'll see, but I think I'm right.
>>50760372I did.Mech Eng, worked for Aerospace companies for close to 6 years.Dead end job with all the development already done in the 70s.It's the mediocre guys's dream. Mid table income, boring job.I quit to become a developer and although I had 2 rough years, I'm now earning 3X what I used to.
>>50761892>But many things was controlled mechanically which I thought was really smart and "new think", if you know what I mean.yeahelegant mechanical solutions are really nice to see and reliablei'm just not sure there will be the real demand for them thoughi worked at a factory that had endless problems draining effluent because all the electrode sensors they were using were just getting corroded and fucked so it was my idea to just use a floatwhich worked but they continued to want to replace that with an electric solution idk why i suppose they just thought that was inherently more advancedwe spent six months trying numerous ways to try and filter, dilute, neutralise, and do all sorts to the effluent and when i quit they were still tryingofc that's just an anecdote but it contributed to me hating my job since it felt so disrespectful
>IT Project Manager
>>50758345> study computer engineering> go through quantum, thermo physics, dsp, fpga and all the gay shit> graduate and become a code monkey writing javaWorth it
In south america there's this common tragicomic tale saying that anyone who gets a degree on engineering today ends up as an Uber driver>mechanical engineers drive in fuel cars>electrical engineers drive in electric cars
>>50761739It was very stressful being put on big projects without experience. On that project there were some design and procurement oversights on my end, but luckily the millwrights were really good so they fixed it up in the shop. > the most freedom i had was to design bracketry but that had to always be overkill because clients wouldn't trust anything less than absurd channel iron bracketsI don't think I would mind that. I got out of the mindset of trying to do things the "best" way and just conceded that I get paid for my hours so I'll do what I'm told and try to not stress about it.
>>50758345Uni friend went on to do a PhD in MechE only to become a QA Engineer at FAGMAN. Pays good, but kek
>>50761974How'd you get out? Did you go back to school or did you self teach? How many years (months?) did you have to study/practice for before you could apply and get a dev job?
>>50758345Software engineer.Most annoying part of the job is trying to get other people to do things for you because you can't do them yourself because business processes say so.
>>50758345Is getting a nursing degree worth it? I'm switched over recent but about 2 semesters left from getting my associate degree. Either that or I start an online business that sells gym machines
>>he didnt pivot into porject management for more money and less work ngmi
>>50758686>mechE is actually not a bad degree.
righto cuntswho wants to actually collect an easy 100k a year without uni and shit....i'll happily give u the guidedumb cucks here dont even realise their are WFH gigs where you literally send 4-5 emails a day and collect 70k a year.....righto cunt, cap this>> 1-go to linkedin (seek and co. are trash) , search contract admin or something generic>> 2-click on a few different cucks roasties profile with that title, rip their job descriptions and add this to a resume file with your name>> 3-now go look for companies that have gone bankrupt in the last few years, congrats now u worked for them for 2-4 years eachnow spam this fake resume around to generic applicaitons on linkedinyou WILL get interviews, to pass this just recite stories from your fake resume and tell them you want WFH and a 90k to moveeventually you get an offer, do the bare minimum, get booted after a few months and rinse and repeatbeats neetbux by a mile
>>50764096i got a good friend who was in the mud as a neet back on track with thisnow he is making 100k+ living rural in construction
>>50764117anon, I might just try this. Anymore you want to throw in there? If I fuck it up, I'll come back with stories kek
>>50758345>Ultimate champion investor >Ubisoft's investor
>>50764117>>50764076(you) have my attention
>>50758443Thank god I did not have grades to get into mechanical and they tossed me into electrical. At least I learned a lot of coding and that's what I am doing right now.Fuck working in engineering, it's full of dumb boomers>>50760711Can confirm, though at my company ME were doing airduct and sizing HVAC. As an EE I was placing receptacles in CAD drawings. Day in, day out. Boomers fucking loved this kind of job.More than half of my uni class are in software/IT, 30% are working as EE. The rest went into sales or trades.Anons, engineering degrees are fun but software is where it's at. Learn coding while in school and it will pay off 100x
My dad graduated in the early 2000's with a mechanical engineering degree. He works a wagie job just like l do and mom is the real one who has a job and pays the bills (nurse). He's also extremely bipolar and refuses to take his meds. I don't talk to him alot.
>>50764148>>50764171yeah matesso look once u pass a interview they want referenceshow u beat this step is -get 2 mates label them as your references as past managers for said bankrupt companies-most companies will just email a standard form to them and they can just say u were great-if they call your friends tell them good stuff and if they ask specifics on jobs done, you buff them off with privacy and ip reasons we cant tell u too much detailonce you get a new role you can easily copy paste this method so if your current role gets a shit manager etc. you move into another role and then you use the real previous company to cover up your fake bankrupt company on your resumerinse and repeart after a year you will have been to 2-3 real companies you have been trained enough to get the gist of the job and you can now name your price kek, always ask for +15k for each new role the white collar finesse is lucrative with fuck all consequences
>>50764659I'm dyin'. This is great.
Fuck you OP.
>>50758686>because mechE is actually not a bad degreeMy MSME degree and the salary stats on the BLS website disagree with you. I spent two years doing actual engineering work for $60k then pivoted to some bullshit meme business role for $170k. Traditional engineering roles are a total joke now.
>>50758345Get an A&P
>Quality assurance manager and Application engineer
>>50761480thoughts on an A.S. In MechE and a B.S. in Applied management?
>>50758345Mech Engie is cool if ur in Irvine lol. Stuck in Pittsburgh doing management tho :p.>fail Calc 2, go into Business Admin>fuck bitches, go to middle management hellCould be worse anon.
>>50760711>some engineers just sit in offices poking around on cad and that sounds soul crushing in its own way What are you talking about, CADmonkey job sounds /comfy/.
>be depressed suicidal neet>finally find a job>leads to decision to go back to school>choose mechanical engineer>everyone proud of me, getting good grades>working full time while finishing degree, hardest i've ever worked>finally get some self-esteem>come on /biz/ and get told I chose wrong and will die a miserable failuregee thanks guys
>>50767775Here’s Hopiumhttps://youtu.be/ldZCGQbEMx8All you need to know is at least you won’t have to solve riddles 500 times to get a software cuck job
>>50767775Eh, /biz/raelis bought something called Internet Computer because a guy with hairy fat fingers called Moonman said so. Always do the opposite of whatever these faggots tell you to do.
>>5076396healthcare jobs are in general the opposite of cushy and requires you to deal with the publicbut if you're fine with that go for it
>>50758569A dream career
>>50766320>business role for $170ktell me more. I have an unused industrial engineering / mechE master degree since 2 years. haven't found any good jobs since then.
>>50758345Take the systems engineering pill, it's underrated as fuck.Diverse work, extremely easy, pays well and has a straightforward path to management if you want it.If you just read pic related, you'll already be better than 90% of the mid-six-figure mouthbreathers in the field.
+LEFT FOOT ZAPPER+ Is this dog crying because I got fucked over again?
>>50758498guarding is based. it gives you a lot of time to figure out how to not be a security guard
>>50764659>>50764117>>50764076I literally did exactly this and like pentupled my shitty wagie/tradie income and became a wfh Chad
>>50759532yeah - true.Mech eng is prolly the hardest to do as well , more exams greater breadth.Mech does prepare you to a a ceo/manageer though beucae you have the basics down of all the other engeeringwe did comp sci, comp eng, civil, elec design dsp and control theory for exampel. So we can talk to all other diciplines and know enough to not be bullshitted.
>>50760917>2nd year thermodynamicslol yes and if that doen't get them fluids 2 will
>>50764659>>50764076lmao i do exectly this except with the fake references
>>50761103No, it's not. It just massively shrunk in size. Don't expect to earn a lot by going into electrical machine or high power design, that shit has hardly seen any innovation these last decades.t. IC physical design engineer
>>50761075>Complains about working with tradies in factory settings>"Uh I think I'd rather be working with construction workers instead they sound much more reasonable"Tbh your entire rant is making you sound extremely cocky and naive right now. The pinnacle of the stereotypical 22yo engineering undergrad who left school thinking he's the smartest man in the universe and flying into a seething rage when his co-workers don't respect his supposed intelligence as much as he himself does>My dream job is being able to design an entire product from start to finish and put it to market but the damn regulations just won't let me! -- you in another post ittJesus fucking christ
>>50759532>bright young students>mech engSorry not true you god damned little elitists.
>WFH software engineer making $200k in LCOL
>solidity developer and proud truebit investor
what did God force us to endure this much pain and fucking fatiguethere is no rest you spend 60 years in constant agony only to die alone without achieving anything just what fucking test is this constant battle for better future yet the future will always be just more painwant to escape the suffering? well if you off yourself you suffer for eternity have fun
>>50770752I can't imagine being a mechanical engineer and not seething about how overeducated you are. I had to learn differential equations, thermodynamics, fluids, and complicated math just so I can look up in a table how the government tells me to design something to have the right tolerances. It makes sense why it is that way but it is mind numbing.
>>50760523I took advanced propulsion, aerodynamics, multidimensional calculus, astrophysics, and satellite physics courses all to get paid $70k/year to present to boomers who can't find the control panel on windows about how we'll be saving money by wrapping our product with 3 layers instead of 4 layers of plastic, and getting a standing ovation for it. I've been at the company 2.5 years, I'm submitting my 2 weeks notice next Friday. You dodged a bullet that I didn't see coming.
>>50772382I feel for you anon. What are you doing next?
>>50758345Learn to code kek
>>50772444I got into sport coaching last year, I've got positions in the spring and fall and work with a private club in the winter. Found out I really enjoy teaching, working with others on developing skills. I'm going back to school to get my teaching license next fall. I had to go down the path for a while to tell it wasn't something I could stomach, but forced me to find something I am excited about. The one thing I will say is it paid pretty good to do bullshit easy work. If you can handle the menial meetings and worthless discussions, you can do pretty well for yourself.
>>50772539Anon, will you make more in sport coaching? I'd choose a job where I make more money 10 out of 10 times. Job is not there to make me happy. Just do things in your own time to cheer yourself up.
>>50772576I plan on teaching and coaching sports at the same time, they are pretty compatible. So I don't have to choose one or the other. Job isn't there to make you happy, but it surely should not make you miserable.
>>50758428Imagine the education and workload of being a medical doctor, with the pay and respect of a nurse. Engineers make less than tradies who never went to college. The engineering job market has been on a continual downtrend since the end of the cold war.t. MechE
Is there a single mechanical engineer who hasn't had a shitty experience?
austrian ME here, this country is infested with braindead boomers yet still somehow manages to have a thriving industry regarding ME delivering quality goods and services all over the worldi only got into ME cause i didnt know hat else to do at young age but it unironically is the best hing i have ever done since i will always be able to get a job, job security , good pay and good reputationits the middle class dream here
imagine being some engineering nerd when you can get a finance degree which takes 0 intelligence to earn, and land a buyside role making 100k+ ez with all sorts of perks
>>50764597It's not going to pay like that when the economy collapses. Service sector economies die quickly when fiat currency goes bust because you can't trade worthless paper for goods but you can trade goods for services.
>>50769763we had to use Virtuoso for one assignment in my VLSI class and it unironically made me want to rope. the timing analysis and transistor sizing fanout stuff was interesting and not too bad, though
>>50775406Most advanced tools automate the place and route part, I don't get to work a lot with transistor sizing but timing analysis is done a lot.I like my job
>Chief Compliance Officer
>>50758498Honestly I woudn't despise a comfy guard job where I can sit most of the time and listen to podcasts and audiobooks.
>>50771840>Mechanical engineer fresh out of school>Complaining about being overeducatedMore like the complete opposite because the moment you get your undergrad degree and enter industry you have to basically go right back to school to learn all the obscure tribal knowledge contained in your specific field that nobody ever bothers writing down. Plus the fact that nobody ever teaches enough statistics to satisfy production overseers, which you pretty much learn on the fly. Also learning enough diff eq to understand basic features of fluids and heat dynamics isn't undereducated. That's teaching you the bare minimum required to understand what those table lookups are trying to represent so you're more than the mecheng equivalent of a pajeet bootcamp coder who crashes Windows 10 every other month due to incompetency.
>>50758345>Autodidact (Fancy word for college dropout)
>man who doesn't belong
>Google CEO - BS Metallurgical Engineering>Apple CEO - BS Industrial Engineering>Tesla/SpaceX CEO - Physics BAMechanical engineering degree >>> all these other degrees. Why are MEs having such a hard time?
>>50758345How do I escape Mech E? I am tired of these shitty jobs. Do I retrain for something else?
>>50761103I imagine this is what code monkeys tell themselves to feel better No chud, EE's are out there doing real design work, complex PCB designs right here in the US
>>50776826That's basically all of them, just don't be a mall cop unless it's night shift
>>50760589>https://lateblt.livejournal.com/325098.html>"computers ceased to be an important field of economic and technological development">"I do not currently work as an electrical engineer">works in IT >"I have talked to various people from many different walks of life over the past few years"what a joke of a human being holy shit
>>50772947Same in Sweden
>>50758686"biochem"are you a femboy or woman
>>50759440based. make sure to tell every single person possible that your work is harder than theres
>>50758345Any Civil Engineers here what is the job market like?
>>50758569Get some sun and you'll get the energy to move on
>>50772944Eh I’m doing ok I guess. Got a comfy WFH design engineer job paying way above average wage. Affords me a pretty good lifestyle I guess and I quite like making stuff in CAD. Also got a cheeky 3D printing business on the side that I enjoy running. The recruiters on linkedin are more interested in that than my main job. Only got about 6 years experience and I’m already getting sent lead engineer positions. To really get ahead as a meche you need to work on your leadership skills and sales techniques otherwise you are doomed to forever sit in the design office. Also zoomers, jeets and bugmen can’t engineer their way out of a plastic bag so I’m not particularly worried about being replaced anytime soon.
>tfw fell for the poli sci history dual major meme>don't ever want to go back to uni again>can't find a job that pays decentlyI'm seriously considering being a trucker so I dont have to be a rentcuck anymore. did i dun goof?
>>50759870No it didn't. Computer engineering is an off shoot of EE. I'm an EE with a concentration in power working for an electric utility. There are plenty of EE jobs with good pay and benefits working for electric utilities. These jobs are also recession proof.
>>50758345I work from home and make more than 200k as an ME. Cope.
>>50761200risk is dull bro
>>50764659>>50764076>>50764117This is fucking hilarious What 'careers' should we be targeting
>>50786394if youre coming from an engineering career, anything in IT systems or automation will give you more WFH possibilities. Specifically because large companies have so many sites it makes more sense to centralize expertise to one team rather than having a team at every site
>>50758345>civil servant in Germany
>>50758345Quit. Become a software engineer and transition to blockchain development. You might even get lucky to work for a based company like Ethereum or Qanplatform or Polkadot.It's not too late OP
>>50758345I fell for the Mech Eng. Now older I realize I was tricked into it by teachers and boomers. Though it was moderately difficult and I learned valuable lessons. Never once have I worked on CAD. Went straight to project management in construction, incredibly easy to position yourself in situation where you don't ever have to talk to blue collar workers and make low six figures. Learn some code and you will probably be promoted to upper management and truly never do anything. Im so close to that bros.
>>50764632I’m Civ/municipal Eng and like my life enough, but my lady is pulling in 6fig as a nurse and lets me stay at home and play the shitcoin lottery and sell covered calls on gme. I’ve used like twelve weeks of vacation this year and when I run out I’m quitting.
>>50772944>>50782019I like it. Got my PE recently, and I have all the side work I want. My main job is WFH, for a 40% TC bump. Thanks /biz/ for the inspiration to go WFH! I do side work until it interferes with family time, then I slow down a bit. I'm making a shitload of money, super comfy, and also doing good fulfilling work. And, I'm about to quit my side work and main job because the company I own is on the cusp of landing a mid-6-figure contract.Agree with anon who is not worried about being replaced. They already tried that, it failed. Looking at you 737-max. The world population and living standard is shooting up, while the IQ is shooting down. Pay a nigga.
>Technician/Integration supervisor>Dont actually have a title; basically just a travelling laborer that fixes underwater projects and engineering mistakes>80k in a slow year, 150k in a busy oneI'm always surprised how shitty engineers have it in terms of pay.I'm 25 and make good money, but basically live in hotels and I'm sick of it. I want to actually live in the home I bought and have a family one day.Most of my work is with broadcast, AV, network, and RF related projects. Done some DoD stuff too.I'm going back to school eventually for engineering and was thinking EE with maybe a focus on RF or computers.Hoping to eventually get a PM position I always see filled by retards that do literally nothing.
>>50758345>Another ME demoralization threadEE chads... it feels good to win
>>50767775It's not all bad really. You can be really mediocre and just have a comfy office job with good benefits. takes a long time to get to 6 figures, though.Most of the time you have zero responsibility and your inability to think outside of the CAD vacuum will be fixed by the grumbling laborers that actually make more than you (mostly because your mistakes give them OT)
>>50758345Idk what you mechs keep complaining about, IT fags only get hired if they are a shitskin or a woman and other engineering fields are absolutely dominated by boomers (aka you are not getting anything good if you don´t have 10 years of experience)
Thoughts on Actuary?
MechE here, 29, working as a brake component design engineer in the Midwest. I fucking hate my job. If you are 18 and starting college, just do not go for mechanical engineering ESPECIALLY if you will live on the US east or west coasts. The pay is not good enough for the responsibility. You will work in a shit 30 year old cubicle with no windows in sight. All of your coworkers will be 30 years older than you. Project management, Quality, and production supervisors will look to you for all the answers while also making more money than you. I’ve fought tooth and nail to scratch $100k a year and there were easier routes. If you’re smart enough for this field, just do comp sci instead so you can work from home and make more money
Worked out well for me. I make $105k in Indianapolis 5 years out of school as a MechE. Got my PE license and work as MEP engineer. Don't do any of my own drafting, just conceptual design/calculations/project management. There's more to engineering than hard engineering.
>>50773188>Service sector economies die quickly when fiat currency goes bust>>50773188>but you can trade goods for services.