Absolute STATE of cryptofags
>>40841976Holy kek look at these bitches crying likes faggots
>>40841976>>40841999>cyberhacka>link>token not neededngmi.
All these link twitter muh got hacked are niggers. they didn't get hacked
>WALLET: HACKED>LINK: DRAINED>FAMILY: ON THE STREETS
>>40842096>LINK: NOT NEEDED>FAMILY: STILL ON THE STREETSfixed it for you
>>40841976Seed phrase got leaked somehow, there’s simply no other way somebody could take all his shit. Simple as.
>>40842135>ALL MY LIFE SAVINGS GONE>ONLY 260KWhy are amerishits like this? Just work for a year, that's not a lot of money
>>40841976WTF HIS LEDGER JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE!
>>40842135he lost his make it stackF
>>40841976Dudes crying over what, 200 bucks? Man fuck out of here
>>40842189Lol Im not selling my Link to you or your bulgarian shill army. Maybe I'll sell you 1 Link for $100,000 in a year or two, but even that would be underpriced
>>40841976>spic>ooking with a nigger>requires a /biz/ twitter fag OP postdie motherfucker
>>40842165what are you talking about, just work for 2 months
>>40842313Just realized this
>Cyberhacks gets cyberhackaedYou can't make this shit up.My sides!!!
>>40841976*sip*Yep my silver is still in my safe, sorry crypto cucks but if you want my shinies your gunna have to break down my asshole and take it.
>>40841976Haha his life is over!
>>40841976>not dividing your cryptos into 2-3 mobile wallets and binance+coinbaseServes this fuckwit right. Also imagine using a fucking ledger kek, that shit was compromised even before it arrived in your home, or the moment you connected it into your fucking windows botnet.
>>40842165>>ONLY 260Kfuck off mate my house is not even worth this
>>40842135jesus this is fucking terrifying, how did this happen?
>>40843090you only have 1 house?lol wtf you even doing on this forum?
Jokes aside, if story is actually true, how exactly does this happen ?
>>40843191wait whati was just looking into buying a hardware wallet (im newfag) but this shit scares me
>>40843090>house>260kWhere you live?
>>40843191>not buying ONLY from the official site
>>40843222>>40843191Wtf i also got my ledger from amazon. But the seedphrase cards where you write your seedphrase on were empty and the ledger software generated my own seedphrase that I wrote downI am safe, right?
>>40843222see >>40843291always buy from the official site
>>40843291Ledger has an official amazon store and it wasn't the fault of a ledger anyway. Anyways the guy probably blew his brains by now out since those were his life savings.
>>40843310No. You're only safe if you keep your coins on binance.
>>40843291If he bought it from ledger they would have given out his home address to criminals
>>40842135>>40842313Moral of the story: Never hold any of the chain's token on the same wallet we have a fuckton in shitcoins. If we want to interact with it, send that chain's token and then work with it. Also set up notifications so we immediately know when someone puts tokens in our account. Never holding ETH again gg
Guys what if I just use a normal usb drive to store my crypto on?
How to avoid this:>Buy 2 ledgers from official leger website>Keep one as your cold wallet that you almost never touch>Other one you use to interact with dAPPS and trade withOr just use metamask as your hot wallet
>just buy it from the official ledger site what could go wro-
>>40843355You'll get hacked. I told you to use binance you retard>>40843371Lmao keeping your wealth on a compromised device.>>40843375Yes I keep telling them to trust CZ
>>40843375>own a dog, alarm system and gun>see how effective that wrench is
>>40843375Now you get a few emails, oh no
The funny thing is that you still owe capital gains tax on that.
>>40843386>keeping all your money on an exchange that can be closed down or hacked without notice
>>40843388>doglolsausages + rat poison >any canine guards
>>40843388He'll probably bring a gun team over since it's worth it if you go for 200k+
>>40843386>CompromisedIt's not if you're not retarded
>>40843375Source on this?
>>40843410He's got insurance >>40843429Everyone here is too retarded to use these compromised devices
So guys what is the absolute safest way to store your crypto as of today?obviously you cannot buy hardware wallets because they might contain malware
>>40843420But do those kinds of idiots realise they'll end up in jail without any bail once everyone is made aware the victim is dead anyway? What's the point?
>>40843375Lol that's even less scary than the I caught you master baiting emails
>>40842165Fuck you. I'm 19 and I only have about 200k.
>>40843191Even so, this is probably the very first time I heard of this happening to a Ledger lol.He most likely "stole" it himself for tax purposes.Either that or he kept his seed phrase in an email or something.
>>40843446>obviously you cannot buy hardware wallets because they might contain malwareKill yourself retardGoodnight
>>40843371You stupid fuck brainlet. Your computer literally never sees your private key at any time. That is the ENTIRE FUCKING POINT of the Ledger. >>40843075complete retard babbling nonsenseanyways the #1 cause of lost funds is user error; not recording seed phrase, losing it, not storing it properly, forgetting the 25th word secret pass phrase, etc. The next most common is phishing, which is really easy to avoid on a hardware wallet by double checking transactions and never inputting your seed phrase on your computer
>>40843310Yeah you should be good. Same thing with me.As long as the seed phrase card is blank and a seed phrase was given to you when you initialized your ledger then there's no way anyone can get that phrase unless you give it to them.. or back up the phrase in a .txt doc on your desktop like an idiot. Looks like this guy input his seed phrase on some phishing site according to his other comments.
>>40843470it literally happenedsure more likely if you buy off ebay or amazon, but who says that is isnt an inside job?
>>40843438https://heroic.com/the-ledger-database-leak-exposes-272854-users-personal-information/>>40843462The specific threats not important, what is important is that ledger is a shit company who give customer details to criminals. At least get a trezor.
>>40843448They won't get caught. You think the police is useful in any way?You can pay for security and guards but they're always incompetent.
>>40842313Hahahahah I was in that thread, now this!
>>40843375The building where I live is big as fuck and my name is not written anywhere. They would have to rob every single apartment to get to me lmao
>>40843477BasedWhat do you mean with double checking transactions?
Obviously he fucked up in some way. Either he bought a malicious ledger, compromised his seed or gave a smart contract permission to steal his funds.The chance that his ledger actually got hacked is really really really low.
>>40843310dumb nigger, buy a brand new phone right now, make sure it's updated.Download exodus or brd wallet and keep your shit there. Do not ever use the phone unless you're cashing the crypto out.If you want to check your wallets status then use a blockchain explorer.
>>40843495Shit, I was looking forward to buying a Ledger, should I buy a Trezor instead?
>>40843191 Probably bought the cheaper open-box from a 3rd party “on Amazon”
>>40843477There's another exploit that retards are falling for and losing their funds. The whole point of separating your funds between a cold and hot wallet is to remove the possibility for a mistake. This one literally ask users to transfer their funds and they do it. It's not as straight forward as that, but it's the same idea. Just use different wallets
>>40843477>ledger connects to windows pcautomatically compromised faggot. I doubt you're even midwit enough to use linux.
>>40843375How would one even respond to this? 500$ is nothing, but you have no guarantee that he will leave you alone after that, it will most likely be continuous extortion.
>>40843528Complete retard babbling nonsense
>>40843211>>40843429>>40843446>>40843469>>40843493>>40843522>>40843527Digging a bit further, it seems that he approved a Akswap transaction, which drained all his tokens
My seed phrase is a screen shot stored in an encrypted .zip folder on my Google Drive that requires 2fa.Am I retarded?
>>40843595Contact the police and get a gun
How the fuck does a ledger get hacked??? Someone close to him had to have stolen his seed right?
>>40843604Same thing I was talking about here >>40843553These retards literally approve it thinking they're getting an airdrop.
>>40843537Yes. Make sure it works with your shitcoins of choice first though
>>40843613dude...why even have it on your computer
>>40843325ignoring ledger's leaking personal data and just hardware wallets in general, wouldn't buying through amazon even though it's via an official portal be more risky? considering that most likely the package would have been handled by warehouse workers
>>40843624Or he kept the seed phrase in an email or in a note on his icloud lol
>>40843527There was a fucking idiot on YouTube telling people they could generate their seed on their phone and transfer to the ledger. Idiot was literally calling himself an expert.
>>40843592>retard nigger who advises to store your coins on binance and coinbase also thinks windows can see your private key when you connect your ledgerkill yourself you braindead mong
>>40841976I turned 1k into 30k I like crypto
>>40843635It's not visible. I don't see the issue to be honest
>>40843625Can you elaborate on where they are getting this isea from?
>>40843613No, if it's encrypted it doesn't really matter. Obviously a hardware wallet where you never enter it into a computer is most ideal, but as long as it's strong encryption and your computer isn't compromised, it doesn't really matter. Honestly even just sitting in a fucking regular txt file would be fine in like 99.9% of cases kek, but obviously you should prob not do thatLike 99% of these "hacked" wallets are people who fall for phishing scams.
>>40843646enjoy being poor after I steal your shit, faggot.
>>40843684They receive shitcoin airdrop that can only be swapped at PooInLoo website. Then the website says it needs permission to swap shitcoins but actually requests for access to other coins and then people approve it without double checking and they get their actual coins stolen
>>40843749Sounds like a metamask issue. Ledger is irrelevant.
>>40842165I make around 260k a month, I'm not sure what faggot poor country you're from but if you have to give up a year of your life for $260k you need to pull yourself up by the bootstraps, give them a firm handshake and actually get a real job.
>>40843749It's so retarded and it worked. This is the reason for my point of keeping a majority of your funds in cokd storage that you never use for anything. I always thought I was too smart to get scammed in RuneScape, but it happened eventually.
>>40843797>retards are keeping their wealth on a fucking browser extension in windowsEasier to swindle than grannies on the phone.
>>40843375In lost all my cripto I bought ICP at 700 USD :(
>>40843749greed should never be underestimated! at the bare minimum funds must be separated so catastrophical loss is not possible
>>40843446lol just buy a second phone and air gap it and keep it in a safe place.
>>40843375kek. this is why i carry two pistols. please someone try to fuck around
>>40843595>How would one even respond to this?You would not. They do not know how much money you own, only that you have bought a ledger. This is likely a mass email sent to ledger purchasers who had their data leaked. Which is the reason they are asking for 500$, ignore it and they'd likely send another message before not bothering to try contacting you again. Think about it, if you really held 200k+, or even just 50 -100k, would anyone who is a real threat contact you ahead of time threatening to kill you, unless you gave them 500$? They pick that number because it is 'a lot' for a lot of people, the minute you send them that much they'd also be made aware of your wallet address and could begin to target you more specifically and change their mind about their tactics, they'd actually have a reason to find you with both these sets of information if you held enough and gave both of the two away, without it its not worth the hassle or even that feasible.
>>40843803Anon you can retire in a year with that salary lol
>>40843446i keep mine on binance
>>40843797So he signed a transaction on his ledger giving metamask permission to sell all the stuff on his ledger? How would that have still worked once he disconnected if ledger didn't give metamask the key....
>>40842135>Someone cashed out for himWhat's he complaining about
>>40843971>crypto becomes illegal>website is seized by the us government>enjoy your bankrupcy
>>40843983funds are safe
>>40841976He killed himself by the way, it's in the news
>>40843797I don't understand how he could have woken up later and found coins missing ... The connection from Trezor to metamask is temp correct? Could it have held on to the transactions waiting to send them after they were signed?
>>40843695I disagree. Key logger can still compromise you this way instantly.
>>40843595Don't respond at all. It's most likely just a boilerplate email sent out to everyone whose addresses got released as part of the Ledger hack from way back when. It's one thing to try to threaten someone into giving you some money. It's another entirely to actually physically go to them and take what they have physically by force. Additionally, if you're actually going to break into someone's home to rob them, do you really want to give them a heads up that you're coming? Fuck no. If it were me, as someone who's actually willing to go to your place with a gun and beat the shit out of you until you give me what I want, you're not going to have a clue I'm coming until I'm there. You won't know anyone's gunning for you until I wake you up at 3am with a gun in your face.
>>40843972Metamask is just a bridge with ledger. He signed permission on the Ledger without double checking to verify the information was valid.
>>40843994link or didn't happen
>>40844036If your computer is compromised to the point where a third party can see anything on your screen, then he was compromised before he even screenshotted or saved the seed phrase image you dingusThis is like .0001% of people who lose their wallet funds lmao
>>40841976>Life savings >LINKHe was never gonna make it anyway
>>40843343What the fuck does this even mean and how would someone be able to steal from your ledger from this?
He should just have hold it in binance wallet
>>40843613That's exactly how my phrase is stored. Based.
>>40844117This. Keyloggers and screen recorders are pretty rare nowadays. Those kind of malwares used to be a thing between 2000 and 2010
>>40843477>never inputting your seed phrase on your computer>I got a new laptop, wiped it, installed linux and brave and nothing else but I'm too scared to type in any of my seed phrases
>>40844180>run malwarebytes >no issuesgood enough for me kek
>>40842161token fucked , better to focus on the wallfair kingdom
>>40844117Thanks for confirming you aren't worth anybody's time.
>>40843096The only way possible is obtaining the seed phrase
my seedphrase is burried in 3 different locations
>>40843191Hate to see it
>>40844247Are you fucking retarded? It's not easy to write keyloggers/screen recorders as it was back in the day because believe it or not, Windows is quite restrictive nowadays. Why am I even talking to fucking faggots like yourself.
>>40844268You are so fucking stupid to me you aren't even worth the shit on my shoe.
>>40844206wallfair is even not on the market anon
>>40844221You honestly have no idea what you're talking about. Not sure why you keep posting.
>>40844286Nigger you don't even know how a Ledger works and have to spoonfed basic information kek
>>40844293doesn't mean the wallfair gaming platform will not be successful
>>40844295>>40844268People like you are why I stopped teaching. I have lost my desire to help people like you.Enjoy your glaring blind spots.
>>40843332>ordering your hardware wallet to your own address
>>40844331Lol believe what you want
>>40844365It's almost as if there are post IDs so everyone can see how retarded you are. You don't get to ask to be spoonfed information then five minutes later act like you're an expert. You're an idiot.
>>40844345Yep but I am more skeptical if a project hasn't launched so do I with wallfair
>>40843375lmao the address I ordered my hardware wallets to has three dogs living there that I'm not even comfortable being around because if they decided to chimp out I wouldn't stand a chance. I'd send them a picture of my asshole and offer them about tree fiddy to toss my salad and that I'd be waiting for them.
>>40844138didn't go there, but i now know you did, faggot.
>>40843983Wait a minute, bros. Is the same thing possible on dexes that have permission to initiate transactions on your coins if a government decided to seize control?
>>40844348Again, explain why. So far I've only heard insults. Are you saying it hasn't become way more difficult to write keyloggers and screen recorders? 15 years ago any script kiddie was able to write a keylogger that doesn't get flagged by smartscreen and windowsdefender. Nowadays you have to fiddle with crypters etc and even there Windows starts bitching
>>40844266That is completely irrelevant and he already stated the cause of the issue (airdrop phishing).
>>40842135Then why is there no record of this on ethereum? No transaction with that amount of LINK in the last few days
>>40843853Wait people keep crypto on windows?
>>40843415>he doesn't know about caucasian shepherdsngmi
>>40843191This is fake news. if you could pass Ledger attestation, you're not fucking burning this exploit on some retards via an Amazon supply chain attack expecting to hit high value targets.You're either attacking a single high value target via Evil Maid, or you're selling the exploit for a gorillion bucks. You're not gonna catch much on Amazon (and yes, when you can fake attestation, 250k times a few people and other people's pocket change IS nothing).The ETH sweep part also makes no sense.>>40842135I can believe losing an ERC20 token because you didn't bother to read the contract data and confirm it, but you cannot do this with pure ETH because it would show up directly on every confirmation separately since it's not a contract and is the base token.Also, he lost the ETH first, and then didn't notice, and used the same scam contract AGAIN twenty minutes later after seeing his Ledger ETH account balance vanish? This entire thing just isn't adding up. This dude is lying or just lost his fucking passphrase somehow, and whoever got it forgot to leave ETH for the LINK sweep so came back.That's all.
>>40844626lots of retards do.Android/apple are pretty much safe from malware unless you download random APKs from pirate website/pornography websites and give them full permissions.
>>40843972It didn't. His key was leaked. That's all that happened here. The other scenarios make zero sense. >>40844813>>40843853No, it's being kept on a Ledger. No keys are never transferred to MetaMask and it has nothing to do with this.
>>40845003Windows is much safer than Android for malware you colossal retard
>>40842414what are you talking about, just work for 2 weeks
>>40841976Good, this pleases me
>>40843343250k is a lot of money your retard. Having a net worth that high puts you in atleast the top 10% in the world.
>>40846666>puts you in atleast the top 10% in the worldnot anymore lol
>>40841976My Ledger stopped working with MM on chrome so I now keep about 200k on Binance with 2fa, I feel safer that way.
>>40841976No surprise this was a link autist, they're the only ones capable of being retarded enough to get keylogged and/or gave away their keys. Lucky for him at least it's only like 200k so it's basically nothing, he can get back to it easily even working from India
>>40846666>top 10% in the world.Looking at your net worth on world level is peak poorfag behavior. You do realize like 75% of the world are living in mud huts and make like $2 a day? Being top 10% in the world doesn't mean shit
why so many binance shills here
>>40843528>store all your crypto on a phone walletno, that is even more retarded anon
>>40841999>"bro i'm rich">have you cashed out?>"no"hey what's up guys i'm a cool "crypto" kid too i have a house i have several cars i owe nearly half a million dollars USD and i pay combined 5% interest on the entire pile of it also in USD and i make payments every single monthi don't have any USD though yeah i mean my income is in USD but i have all this cool crypto-rubles yeah that's right i have secure digital currency backed by russia this is completely normal and good nobody ever did this until someone put the word "crypto" on it and because of that i can know that my behavior is a good and successful one
>>40846926guess bezos is poor then, he hasnt cashed out his stocks.
this is ₿ullish
>input your seedphrase in a phishing site>guis i got hacked!!
>>40841976I keep hundreds of thousands of dollars on a 10 year old Samsung phone that doesn't charge properly. I removed the bluetooth chip, microphone, cameras and the entire simcard assembly, but I'm worried about fucking something up replacing the daughter board so it charges properly, so I've just been using it as little as possible the last 6 months, it's on 20% battery right now...I don't understand how people just get "hacked" though, I'm almost willing to bet he put his seedphrase in willingly somewhere malicious, or interacted with some random contract that gives full access to his wallet away
>>40845003I used to download apks of paid apps and games. I have since deleted all of them. Is there a risk of malware after I uninstalled them?
>>40847840super unlikely.Just factory reset then update your phone again if it's really bugging you. transfer your shit to an exchange beforehand, of course.>>40845330>windows>accidentally click something>get 500 keyloggers in your pc
So what's the safest option now?Ledger/trezor or just make a new wallet on an airgapped pc?
Is metamask wallet safe?
>>40841976>lose or have a funny phrase stolen>money gone foreverThe future of finance.
100% dude got either phished for an “airdrop” or entered his private key in something.
>>40843639The ledger box comes sealed with plastic and gives you a list of items that should be in the box. If any of those things are missing then don't use it.
>>40844429Yeah most people are completely oblivious as to how much work it takes to write malcode that doesn’t get flagged by windefender or just writing modern windows malware in general. this is of course on top of having to get on the machine in the first place. it’s just a bunch of little things that add up to an ass load of work
>>40841976People are dreaming of quick gains without understanding what they talk about. I had a 20 mins talk with a friend. I told him how high are my gains. And motherfucker goes and tells me " I'm investing in XRP and ETC cus they are cheap". I'm like didn't you hear a single word or how etc is garbage? Smh>Yea I’m just collecting bags of SPDR to be honest, this coin has major potential to pump no doubt
>>40844517Every coin has good potential to pump, safemoon especially haha. But spiderdao has amazing features they even give you free spidervpn for staking with them
most idiots on this thread are dumber than /g/.newfags.
>>40849189>>40849301>SPDRthis scum doesn't move anon, 70% apy on eth/spdr pool is a releif tho
>>40842981What's that worth, $4k? You could exchange that for 2 gold coins and hide it a lot easier.A Ledger for crypto is even easier to hide.
>>40841976>t. Bought a ledger on Amazon to save $30
I just setup my ledger.I'm scared bros :,(
>>40843325>Ledger has an official amazon storeAmazon commingles stock anyways. The seller doesn't matter if it is all sitting in the same bin in the warehouse.
>>40841976this is why the goverment needs more power, to protect us against hackas
>>40847699>This. People are so fucking retarded.
>>40843310Yes, the legder program checks the hardware for tampering.Unless someone figured out a way around that...
>>40841976>t. cyberhacka>gets hacked
>>40841976im cerebrally ruined
>>40846926 USDC solves this problem
>>40842154He got phished.Theres no other way anyone would get his seed phrase. He just doesnt want to admit that it happened because hes an idiot.He wants to call it "a hack".
>>40843375>Implying he'll actually fly all the way from Mumbai to take $500
>>40842313lmao>what was I thinking?>returns some ETH for gas fees>proceeds to retire the remaining
>>40842135>>40842313This is why it wasn't an approval scam, malicious transaction, or "eth glitch" or w/e. Whoever hacked him had his key and could initiate transactions not just get him to sign a malicious one. Because they had to send eth back then steal the link and then the eth again.So the retard either used a ledger that was set up already (like a retard) or entered his seed on the computer (like a retard) into some malware or something. But either way he is a retard.
100% had a malicious extension running in his browser or entered his seed into some scamsite to try to get an airdrop. For the record why do people use hardware wallets again? You have to trust ledgers system to be functional, why not just work with a paper wallet or just remember your seed? Maybe write it down in X different parts jumbled in an order that makes sense to you but not to anyone else directly?
>>40852722This.He let his sneed phrase out somewhere.
>>40841976I feel bad for the guy.
>>40853092>For the record why do people use hardware wallets again?Because if you aren't a retard, you can use safety use your paper wallet / recovery phrase, even if your computer is infected with malware. But it only allows you to DETECT you are getting scammed, because if you just sign every transaction without looking you can still get scammed.But its clear that this guy's seed was compromised because the hacker did multiple transactions. Unless this dude was so retarded he just kept confirming random transactions for 2 minutes...But you're right if you're not using your wallet, if its just cold storage, then a hardware wallet isn't any safer. But its great for defi because if you just simply verify transactions then its impossible to get your funds hacked even if you get malware.
>>40843448Most crime is perpetrated by idiots.
>>40853282Makes sense. Lmao seeing ETH get transferred back into the wallet to steal his linkies though.
>>40847105He has though, you can't buy a house with stocks.
>>40843910Highly doubt they'd make a new wallet for each personalized ransom email. It'd be the only way to discern whose wallet is whose without them confirm its their wallet.
>>40844420The government can't do shit about a contract that's already posted on the blockchain. Not even the creator can "change it" (I'm skipping a lot of intricacies in how they upgrade projects, but the point still stands).The beauty of a decentralized world.
>>40851733If you had to generate a seed phrase and you weren't given a seed phrase you'll be fine.