Your pet doesn't give a shit about you. Literally the only reason they hang around you is because you feed them, otherwise they would easily attach themselves to another person who'd feed them. It's impossible for a dog, cat, hamster etc. to feel any sort of affection towards their owner like a kid would to their parents or like a normal person would to a good friend. You're basically looking after an entity who tolerates you at best, but will never care about you.Just wanted to let you know.
>>4526984Still beats being taken advantage of by a vile woman
>>4526984based and reality-pilled.
>>4526984This take is giving PoorI've never heard even a true middle classspout this kind of bullshitEven in human relationshipsyou have to Give to ReceiveJust say you can't afford it
>>4526984>Literally the only reason they hang around you is because you feed themFood sharing is the basis of all relationships in all organisms.
Maybe. Probably. But the love I feel towards the animal is real and makes me feel good.
>>4527010Retarded analogy made by a retard. You don't love your kids because they give you food.>>4527018You have a braindead beta cuck mentality.
>>4526984She ain't no pet, negrumps.
>>4527018>I don't love things to get a rewardIs that also what you tell yourself when Tyrone is fucking your wife?
>>4527058I got that summ muh time sadness
>>4527048>>4527072the npc immediately defaults to projecting his degeneracy onto others
>not the person who feeds the cats>still their favorite person to the point it can get annoyingexplain this one nigga
>>4527186Yeah I was in this situation too with my mom's cats, in my case I think they just liked the fact that I was quiet and didn't move a lot
>>4526984That's patently and provably untrue, at least it is for dogs and (to a lesser extent) cats. Food definitely helps with affection, but dogs still stick with humans even in disaster situations where there's no food readily available. This is so blatantly wrong that you're either trolling or you've never owned a dog before.
>>4526984Jew hands typed this. Jews hate how europeans are in touch with nature and master the art of war dogs, almost as much as they hated Egyptians who invented cats, never actually kept slaves and with whom they had more of a US/illegal Mexican migrant relationship.That's why they replaced their pantheons with weeping martyrs and shame
>>4526984Completely wrong. We're like cocaine to our dogs, and well liked siblings to our cats.
>>4526984But no one else does feed them.So I am the single most important living thing to my pet.
>>4526984>dogs>descended from almost eusocial animals>doesn't give a shit about younah
>>4526984I only visit my parents like 3 times a year, yet their dog goes completely crazy every time she sees me.I am not the one that feeds her.Why is the dog excited to see me?
>>4527200>This is so blatantly wrong that you're either trolling or you've never owned a dog before.He's just an edgy autist that animals (and for that matter, people) instinctively know to avoid.
>>4527228>projecting this hard
>>4527223>it does to any person it comes across>it knows you feed it more than your parents do>it's just out of instinctIt's really not that hard to deduce.
>>4527261But what does it feel like to have these instincts?
>>4527261Or> Dog likes you> Dog missed you> Dog is extra happy about seeing you Really not that fucking hard you stupid autist.
>has never seen a dog reunited with owner after some time apart video
>>4527048That isn't a fucking analogy, that's a direct statement of equivalence, you stupid fucking nigger.
>>4526984We get it, the family dog never bonded with you because you ignored it in favor of games and porn while your family played with it and took it on walks, so now you are embittered to the idea of human-animal companionship.
>>4527186> Hypothesis : it was female and you are the only Male human figure usually around it. I've noticed female cats usually snob women and prefer men.
>>4526984pets see people as their parents. all animals feel loyalty and love towards their parents.the exceptions being jews, niggers and boomers. btw op is an ugly hook nose
>>4527299i have found that among dogs too. they seem to know gender and are friendlier to the opposite gender.i am sure this makes undead faggos and troons seethe
>>4526984Neither scientific evidence nor my feelings support this statement at all. Love doesn't require any sentience particular to healthy humans.
Jokes on you, I don’t feed my pets and they still like me just fine.
>>4527048>analogyyou fucking retarded faggot, kill yourself.
>>4527261>it does to any person it comes acrossShe really does not. She is very scared of strangers. She was cared of me too initially.>it knows you feed it more than your parents doI did not ever feed her. I simply played with her.>it's just out of instinctWhat is this even supposed to mean? You can reduce even human relationships down to this if you want to be an ass.
>>4526984i feed my dogs myself maybe once every three months(someone else does it) but they still go crazy around me.
>>4526984This has been proven wrong and wrong again, even with a fucking catI find that LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE PERSON who says this shit thinks that if they would ever be abandoned, for total lack of presence or shitty behavior, that the abandoner was incapable of love. Literally everyone who says this thinks that if they ever do not receive undying, unconditional worship that not only are they not loved but whatever it is can't feel love.They are always male. They are always a deadbeat. Their chances of being out of shape, having a receding chin, or having a receding hairline are greater than chance. Always. Just thought I'd point this out.
>>4527238Seethe harder OP, it's delicious.
>>4526984so you would say, if a dog gets only fed by a feeding robot/does not see who fills the bowl would not attach to the humans? Did you never had a dog ? there are other things they crave, play time, cuddle time, walking, learning new things, sleeping near you... and the person who spends the most time with it is usually the favorite person. sometimes they prefere other humans, maybe the owner uses wrong training methods for this dog or acts not like what the dog needs( safety, trust..) normally the person who spends the most time with it, trains it, feeds it and is its owner. (my dog is kinda sad if i give him his breakfast without doing tricks, because of time pressure. he will stare at the food for 3 minutes, i will tell him many times he can eat it, he wants more attention and fun time )
>>4527493Isnt this basically what Harlow did with monkeys?The cold, wire mom is the one that fed the baby monkey, and they still consistently chose to be with the mother they could cuddle.
There have been studies happening for decades that proved the exact opposite OP.I know 4chan is obsessed with Le Epic Cynical blackpills but come the fuck on, this just goes against reality for the sake of edge on “I am so le smart and doomer haha”
>>4526984this stay salty that no matter how well you trained your dog no matter how much love and care you put into it that if I stole it it would be loyal to me within a month or two.
>>4526984>grandparents' dog>grandma feeds her every day>dog still hates grandma>dog loves grandpa >dog adores me more than anything (we meet like twice a year)Your move faget.
>>4527538Careful anon, OP will just accuse you of "projecting" and then what will you do?
>>4527334>You can reduce even human relationships down to thisNo, you literally can't because humans have something called "emotional intelligence", something which any other animal lacks. This is basic science, lmao.
>>4527416Project harder anon, it's delicious.
>>4526991A problem you'll never have
>>4527577How is you becoming attached to a person following a conversation with them meaningfully different from a dog becoming attached to a person after playing with and receiving attention from them?
>>4526984Love is just a chemical response, social animals have it too
>>4526984my cat had severe separation anxiety, and she refused to not be in the same room as me. Even while she was giving birth, I got up to go drink water, and she followed me.Animals can feel affection, just not the same as humans. They associate the happy feeling they get when you feed them, with their owner, hence love.
>>4527539ok niggersame thing would happen if you kidnap a baby yknow
>>4526984>Your pet doesn't give a shit about you. Literally the only reason they hang around you is because you feed them, Depends. If you're one of those Caesar Mila shitter fucker criminal scumbags who harasses and is cruel to your animals, force yourself as the alpha male dog then yes, something like that is true. If you treat "your" dog as an equal, travelling this world together, then they do like you. >otherwise they would easily attach themselves to another person who'd feed them. Not true for all dogs. I tried for years and years to get my dog to like me more than my mom/sister and he simply wouldn't do it. It was literally ego-hurting, the fact that even my own family dog didn't like me that much even though I loved him more than anyone. I gave him treats, I did everything I could and no he didn't like me as much. We were ok but he didn't like me as much. If he only knew the reality of how much I cared for him. >It's impossible for a dog, cat, hamster etc. to feel any sort of affection towards their owner like a kid would to their parents or like a normal person would to a good friend. Rubbish. You don't understand affection. Of course, blood relatives are going to be tough match with a pet, but it's the same sort of affection but at a different level to your own children. As for good friend, well why do you like your friend? Do you say oh well I like talking about football with him. Sure, that is one reason. Can we then say that you only like your friend because you can talk football and similar things with him, if he couldn't then you wouldn't care about him, right? So you can say that about any relationship. >You're basically looking after an entity who tolerates you at best, but will never care about you.As I have laid out in the arguments above, you could say that about anyone or anything.And one final point if I may: you're a fucking moron who has no clue about dogs, I wasted my time writing this.
>>4527539I'm this guy: >>4527901Bitch if I captured your daughter within 1 week she would be loyal to me.
I stopped believing in this the first time I came home and fed my cat right away and instead of going for his food he greeted and stretched on me. If he only wanted food he wouldn't show affection for me getting home before he eats
>>4527935>o look this person that bring food to me came back to me, better act happy to make sure he bring me more foodIt's not that complex you braindead moron.
>>4527654>how is having a meaningful discussion with another being that has the same intelligence as you any different than some animal with less than 10 IQ randomly jumping around you?Why do retards keep insisting that animals have the same emotional intelligence that humans do?
>>4528029>Why do retardsYou're the retard, you do not understand what you're talking about.
>>4528029that does not affect the emotional bond. It only better informs you of how to manipulate them and avoid being manipulated. thats all humans are. i know. i married one. love is fake. there is a reason we need arranged marriages or threats of violence and women without rights to keep the divorce rate under 40%. christians in particular want to believe they are something special instead of a smarter animal. they think they are small gods. that they are magical and run on praying for forgiveness. but they will reincarnate as cattle on a kosher beef farm. you are not better than an animal. you can only choose to do better. then maybe one day in another life you will finally be more than a dog with a dictionary and a copy of sun tzu.
>>4528029> the fact they can't ratiocinate over their emotions means they don't have them. It really isn't so complicated. Basic emotions are how living beings organize their interactions with the world. They aren't ideal entities, but correlations between an ideal form and a biological state, such that your actions become organized such that the source of the emotion is prioritized (either positively or negatively). An emotion is the "fulfilled" state of conscious mental activity, in the sense that it is organized according to the schema Presentation -> Judgement -> Emotion, where emotion is the implementable expression of the Judgement by an organism (see Franz Brentano for more on this). "Love" is the emotional realization of mental acts pertaining to filial and reproductive care. Of fucking course animals that have evolved to prioritize those, such as many high level mammals, will have such an emotion.
>>4528027>>o look this person that bring food to me came back to me, better act happy to make sure he bring me more food> Cats have no emotional intelligence> However cats can simultaneously plan ahead for the future and manipulate you accordingly, thus showing emotional intelligence. Which is it retard?Imagine something with the brainpower of a 6-9 months old baby but a fully organized kinetic scheme an athlete would be jealous of. You've got a cat.
>>4528122>cat>6-9 year oldSo dogs are 12-18? How do i know when my dog is 18? He keeps trying to buy porn
>>4528122I think the problem is he has no theory of mind - that anon I mean. He literally has no theory of mind for any animal other than humans (which I would imagine, is only a basic one). When anons lack a theory of mind for non-humans it means that they don't understand that another non-human also has thinking capabilities and emotions and therefore emotional intelligence - it is just outside of his (or her, but let's be real here) comprehensibility, it is just beyond them.
>>4528148I said 6-9 months old. A white couple's 6-9 month's old, to be more precise. Maybe even a bit more. Seems like my cat is stuck in that phase where kids start screaming "MOM" louder and louder until the adult inevitably snap, which is closer to 2-3. Anyways, not much more than that. It doesnt mean anything toward emotional capacity, just about how much an individual can speak about their emotions. >So dogs are 12-18Dogs understand obedience and delayed rewards better than almost every 6-7 years old. I once saw a 30 minutes-old fawn, who had figured only minutes ago how to stand, fucking bolt it at the sight of a grizzli who had just walked into the clearing. It was running before any of the adults had seen it. That doe was younger than my ounch break and it had perfectly figured out what was the appropriate response to a fucking bear walking upon you. Fear, primordial and innate, is the only thing that explains this behaviour in this case. The only difference between realizing this and maintaining that animals simply act out commands is that autists cant seem to understand that emotions are such command, but it makes absolutely no fucking sense to separate them from the feeling they are associated with, and thus from a necessary "feeler". >>4528150>it is just beyond themAgreed, doesnt mean they shouldnt be shamed for being such inferior specimen of humanity.
>>4527277Hell, I was gone for like a week and when I got home my dog went mental. She would not stop running around the house full speed out of excitement.
>>4528122You really are a braindead retard if you think infants that are 6-9 years old have developed enough emotional intelligence to do anything but cry when they need something.Either way, an animal having enough intelligence to understand how to manipulate someone doesn't mean they have the brainpower required to understand the need to feel loved or wanting to be needed by someone.>>4528273>Agreed, doesnt mean they shouldnt be shamed for being such inferior specimen of humanity.You're the retard who think animals have the same mental capacities as humans do. You're the one being shamed here you moron, kek.
>>4528287>>4527186>>4527188>>4527200>>4527207>>4527223>>4527277>>4527901>source: your assholeHere's a fact: If you were to die tomorrow, that pet who you think really likes and cares for you even if you're not the one feeding it will completely forget about you. If it gets a new owner, in 2 weeks it will act like they were together its entire life and it'll never give a shit about you ever again.Stay mad forever.>inb4 "b-but muh grandma died and her cat was really sad afterwards :("
>>4528385>have cat since its birth>had to give cat away to friend>five years later, return to visit friend>cat exhibits great excitement and affection upon seeing me againWrong again.
Does anyone remember the name of that Norwegian explorer who returned home after being lost for 10 years to his dying dog that perked its ears and wagged its tail one last time upon hearing his voice?
>>4528404That is the most "I'm 14 and this is deep" facebook post I've ever heard.
>>4528407probably but its not from modern times
>>4528391>b-but muh grandma died and her cat was really sad afterwards :(Lmao, literally called it. You retard.
>>4528371I can tell you never interact with kids
>>4528421You completely ignored what I said and had to make up shit for your point, retard.
>>4526984>cat acts anxious when I'm gone>cat comforts me when I'm sick>cat kneads on my stomach when my stomach hurtsFuck you OP.
>>4528428That's literally what random stray cats do when they see me in the park. You're fucking delusional if you think your cat feels some sort of unique affection towards you, lmao.
>>4528273>The only difference between realizing this and maintaining that animals simply act out commands is that autists cant seem to understand that emotions are such command, but it makes absolutely no fucking sense to separate them from the feeling they are associated with, and thus from a necessary "feeler".Except that what separates humans from animals is the fact we have a deeper understanding of what emotions are, and they're not just "commands". How a cat mother loves her children can't be compared to how a human mother loves her children.You think you're smart but you're a genuine moron who can't understand basic human psychology.
>>4526984wwhos dog + cat is this because it looks exactly like my friends and the filename has his first name in it
>>4528385>>source: your assholeYou're the one talking with the source out of your asshole. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. >Here's a fact: If you were to die tomorrow, that pet who you think really likes and cares for you even if you're not the one feeding it will completely forget about you.Not true. It is a well-known fact that many pets remember people for years and years. >If it gets a new owner, in 2 weeks it will act like they were together its entire life and it'll never give a shit about you ever again.This just proves how you don't have the SLIGHTEST CLUE what you're talking about. Once we put our dog in a doggy daycare centre for a week when we were going on holidays. Even though he seemed fine at first the next day they called us and said that he had become fiercely aggressive and had backed into a corner, snarling and growling at any person or dog that came near and to collect him now or advise. This is a dog that was really friendly with them while we were around. After about a week when we finally came back they told us to never bring him there again, and they like money so it was hardly that they couldn't be bothered. I'm not going to tell you the dog breed because frankly the chances that you might get one scare me, but it's a medium sized dog capable of doing damage. It's very common for an owner to be gone from a dog for months or years and the dog to get extremely excited when they come back. Now, if you stole our dog and fed it would he after months of this start to bond with you - no shit, he's literally under your control, same as if I stole your daughter or mom and was the only one providing food she would gladly suck me after a while. eh? eh? She would right? Moron. Perhaps you have just never been around a clever pet. I do know there are dogs that aren't really suitable as pets. >Stay mad forever.People get mad when you state damaging things that are insulting and obviously incorrect anon.
I mean I know you're a troll and you like baiting people, when you say "Stay mad forever" you just prove it. How good does it feel that I wrote all of that based on what you said, that you caused all this? I hate the internet.
>>4526984>>4528371>>4528454Incredibly based, anon.Keep making the petfags seethe.
>>4528454>How a cat mother loves her children can't be compared to how a human mother loves her children.Of course you can, you literally just did, you absolute failure at being an intelligent being. > Hurrdurr animals that pump out a litter of 6 Kitsap every 6 months and then doesnt see them again after another 3-6 months have passed dont have the same expressions of filial relations as those who have t care for one another for 18+ years. Jesus fucking christ.
>>4526984My dog only loves my mother, appreciates my presence, competes with my father and tolerates my sister. I kinda like this dynamic because it makes sense lmao.
>>4526984True, and domestic animals have no choice because they have been bred to become too incompetent to survive by themselves.
>>4528753Same as humans then.
>>4526984I can practically smell the nihilistic sweat-lubricated sausage fingers that typed this post.
>>4526984They adapt their behavior for a stable relationship with the being(s) that provide, food, shelter, warmth and scatches/grooming. Wait! That's true about pets too! I was talking about human children.Would a child love a parent that didn't feed and protect it?
>>4528371>Either way, an animal having enough intelligence to understand how to manipulate someone doesn't mean they have the brainpower required to understand the need to feel loved or wanting to be needed by someone.You have this backwards. You do not understand the latter. You feel them. It requires 0 brainpower. The former requires a lot of mental capacity with highly advanced theory of mind, episodic memory, and working memory.Understanding the latter also requires higher intelligence and it is principally understood for the purpose of manipulating someone or suppressing/eliminating your own feelings, or forming a religion so you can manipulate other people into manipulating themselves into feeling the same way you do. You understand it so you can stop feeling it, or change how you feel it. Without understanding you simply feel it as you were genetically predisposed to. Animals have no control over their emotions. Their self concept amounts to placing themselves in the physical world and having a hunch about what they're doing. Kind of like autists. Autists also have no control over their emotions and need therapy to teach them to leverage their intelligence to gain some semblance of control.The gift of intelligence and language is what emotional retards would call selective psychopathy and what rational men would call self control and the ability to reason with others. Because you reason with yourself. An animal can attack its limbs but you can discipline yourself inside your head like you would shout at another ape. Your self concept is more developed than theirs.But that doesn't mean you feel love and they don't, it means you have the ability to tell yourself to stop feeling it or force yourself to and they have literally no choice in the matter any more than you can stop yourself from drooling if you're starved and then offered food or a sperg can stop themselves from having a screeching hand flapping meltdown (i'm sure you're familiar with that).
>>4529040OP is trying to meme himself into feeling less love and begging others to join him indeedBut why?In every case it is someone who is so disgusting that they can’t compete with a fuckin cat. I have never ever known someone who was not physically or mentally deformed and repulsive to spout the garbage OPis spouting. Think pasty chinless pastors and inbred looking imams who share their god and their rotten cheese scent in equal measures. It is a disgusting and anti-human opinion held by subhumans who are aware that they are seen as equal or lesser compared to animals.
>>4529041>who are aware that they are seen as equal or lesser compared to animals.Lesser, imho. Animals can be noble, subhumans cannot. They will not bring Arcadia unto the world, and thus will not know Heaven.
>>4526984>Your pet doesn't give a shit about you. Literally the only reason they hang around you is because you feed them, otherwise they would easily attach themselves to another person who'd feed them.I never fed my mom's cat, and the cat only jumps in my lap for cuddling, because I'm the one who cuddled it the most when it was a kitten
>>4528726nothing based about what he said, he's a colossal retard and so are you
>>4528385>Here's a fact: If you were to die tomorrow, that pet who you think really likes and cares for you even if you're not the one feeding it will completely forget about you. If it gets a new owner, in 2 weeks it will act like they were together its entire life and it'll never give a shit about you ever again. Stay mad forever.you're the one who's mad and coping, retard. look at rescue greyhounds, for some dogs it takes a few weeks to adjust to new owner, for most it takes almost a year, and for some it takes even up to 6 years. that's most of their life, dumbfuck
>>4529077"Nobles" understand that animals are beneath humans, while retards think of dogs and cats as their equals and think their pets have the same intelligence that normal people do. You're so delusional its embarrassing, kek.
>>4529040>>4529041It's not that hard to understand. Saying that animals can't feel sympathy and empathy like humans do doesn't mean you have a mental illness or something, it just means you're a rational human being and not a retard who can't understand psychology. You're literally projecting your own retardation onto others, lmao.
>>4526984Replace food with money and you could easily say the same about women with the same sort of explanations that have been given for exceptions.
>>4530871>Saying that animals can't feel sympathy and empathy like humans do doesn't mean you have a mental illness or something,This is where you're going wrong, it absolutely means you are both mentally disturbed and a severely retarded individual. I know writing your post like that took a lot of effort by you, because normally people as dumb as you don't write like this, so I would fully expect the mask to slip next post (possibly you'll make your effort again just to try to prove me wrong or whatever).
>>4530868Dogs and cats aren't my equals. They don't have the same intelligence that normal people do. Emphasis on MY. And NORMAL.But they are greater in worth than you. You are not my equal. How is this so hard to understand? Do you know why "dog" and "pussy" are insults? Denying you value and placing you as equal to or below an animal is an institution that goes back to the stone age. The idea that humanity makes you inherently valuable, except as more versatile labor, is a relatively recent concept spread by self interested (parasitic) parties. You have the potential to be valuable but you can also be born dumber than a chimp and more destructive than the most vile mastiff. And that actually makes you worse, because you can fuck my female relatives and produce shitty children.
If a dog doesn't like you A) it will be comfortable to stay with anybody who feeds it - mine hates being in shelter environments even though it gets to be fed and play outside far more often than with me. B) it won't forgive you easily. My dog could kill me in my sleep and easily access tons of food. He chooses to obey.
>>4530868>"Nobles" understand that animals are beneath humansYou do not get to have an opinion on what constitute nobility, either spiritual or actual.
>>4528421>haha I already thought of someone refuting my retard point with a valid point therefore its no longer valid!You may be legitimately mentally disabled.
>>4526984>Animal likes you because you do nice things for it.>This is different than humans who like you because you do nice things for them.
>>4527581yeah, he knows how to pick them it seems
>>4530871>sympathy and empathy like humans donot all humans feel empathy or sympathy. aka psychopaths or narrsasitic individuals. does that make them animals despite looking human?
>>4527018He specified weird pets. As in exotic pets, not pets with weird personalities.
>>4526984Dogs are retarded because of the exact opposite. It’s unconstitutional love for bare minimum effort. It’s the pet a retard gets to get a slave.Your right the cat doesn’t love me and I don’t love him we just 2 niggas living in the same house and we both do our work. (At least that’s what I would say if I was employed and the cat was an outside cat LOL)
>>4533656This has been disproven. You're paraphrasing some closet gay autistic incel who only ever had an outdoor cat and only interacted with hounds and bulldogs.
>>4531689I can tell how much of a moron who is beneath me you are by how hard you're whiteknighting for some animals that'll never give a shit about you.I'd tell you to kill yourself, but I already know you're too much of a brainless retard to have the self-awareness required to see how worthless your life is.
>>4533200They are closer to an animal in terms of sympathy and empathy, yes.
>>4531789And neither do you if you're a retard who overestimates the emotional intelligence of a animal with an IQ that's less than 10, lmao.
>>4533162Your "point" isn't valid. It's subjective as fuck, you're basing it on your own experience instead of the general research, and even then you only have an argument because of how you interpret the situation (DUDE MY DOG STARTS JUMPING AROUND WHEN HE'S NEAR ME, THAT'S TOTALLY NOT A NORMAL THING THAT DOGS DO AROUND HUMANS IN GENERAL)It's astounding just how much of a braindead moron you are.
>>4533686Your post constitutes the dying whimpersof subhuman scum. There isn’t a glimmer of life in any of it. A chimp is your intellectual superior.
>>4533708autists are subhuman. correct. mental illness is not the return to a prior version of a faculty but the total absence of it, or deformity beyond recognition as surely as a malformed arm is never a leg or a functional fin. in this case, all things that make up the soul. even a rat is more functional.
>>4527048You love your kids because they carry your geneticsAnything else is a cope
>>4526984My mom's dog doesn't like me and cries at the door if she leaves, even if I feed him.
all relationships are transactional>your pets won't like you if you starve them!yeah no shit retard; so would your kids
>>4528371>infants that are 6-9 years old
>>4526984I'm not even a cat person but sometimes cats will nudge you, lick inside your ears, etc. Could an animal truly "love" you, probably not. But certain species do tend to show affection it seems
>>4533744yeah, they can.believing human love is anything special is not just delusional, it's harmful. you will be looking forever and the more seriously you take your belief in true, special, magical love only humans can feel because they are clearly higher beings, the more prone you will be to divorce. your only other route is self delusion, AKA religion. when the most fundamental behavior of your species, mating and child rearing, is hampered in 40% of attempts, you are going against your nature.arranged marriages are a refutation of the idea that human love is special. you are as a dog. if you are placed with someone who treats you well you will come up with a reason to love them. maybe you like someone else more, you just acknowledge your animal nature, that it may be fleeting as you find out more about them, and that it is not necessary rational or the best for you. or maybe they are fine, spend time with them, but take care of your assigned human. the divorce rate for arranged marriages is ten times lower than that for "free" marriages.
>>4533761Under systems that encourage arranged marriage, you maintain the marriage because you love your family and you want offspring to care for you or continue your legacy. Our current system is based on talmudic law where marriage is entirely arbitrary and a man can leave his wife for any reason or no reason at all.So you could say humans do love in a special way, because no dog will ever stay with you because they think it's the best for their future children or will help their brother succeed. A dog just loves you because they love you.
>>4533735They take anti-aging pills.
>>4533708>no counterargument I accept your seething concession. >>4533710>autists are subhumanTrue. That's why you're such a pathetic parasite. Only subhumans are capable of lowering themselves so much to the point of worshipping your pets that don't give a single shit about you.
>>4526984Maybe but they are not evil, they never planned something on me or anything, they can't talk and they are dumb. They are simple beings and i prefer to be around them.
>>4533761It's special because it's love for your own kin you braindead retard. How much much of a brainless moron do you have to be to understand so little about human psychology?
>>4533711I love kids, even the ones unrelated to me. I kinda feel like by making them happy I can compensate what I suffered.
>>4526984If my pet can prefer one treat to another it can prefer me to another human.
>>4533932If you don't see anything wrong with how your pet sees you as it sees its food then you destroyed your own argument.
Room temp IQ troll thread gets over a hundred replies.It's over.
>>4533998It's not really a room temp IQ if he managed to make so many retards seethe.
>>4527539Month or two under a leash and you'll be loyal to me too, boy.
>>4533921Your posts follow this formula>NO U>WORSHIPING ANIMAL>ANIMAL DOESNT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOUunfortunately no u doesn't apply. it's not worship, its such intense hatred for you (a subhuman/autist) that i prefer a cat to your presence, and they do give a single shit about me, so you lose.i have many humans in my life who i value more than animalsyou are not among themnobody like you is among themand that will never changeyour biological species is not a credit to your worth - the fact that you can interbreed with other humans makes you WORSE.
>>4533744>Could an animal truly "love" you, probably not.How often do you spend time rubbing your face in the face of something you don't love? We do not distinguish between emotional and rational love in general, but this is the issue here. There is absolutely no reason to believe that emotional love is qualitatively different for animals than for humans, especially for mammals. They have no (or incredibly limited) capacity to conceptualize and ratiocinate on their emotions, however, and their love will never become "rational". The problem is that the general natural attitude (as per Husserl) understanding of emotions for humans rests on understanding them as ideas, while in reality they are physiological states which are "keyed" to accomplish a certain objective. Jealousy is closer to hunger than the idea of justice, for example.
>>4534148rational love ceases to be love. reason can perceive love and attempt to better preserve... or end it.but reason does not become love without ceasing to be reason. if love becomes reason it is no longer love. it's manipulation.what you're getting hung up on is that humans will appear to pair bond but not for love of each other, but for love of something else. you're getting hung up on the fact that humans are actually the dogs that love food (money) not their partner. the dogs do love you, not food. they're not smart enough to love food instead of you.
my mom feeds my dog more than i do. my dog is completely dedicated to me and will listen to me over anyone else.
>>4528385Look at this stupid fucker who acts like no human alive has ever left their pet for a long period of time and then come back. I'm pretty sure I could go on youtube and look up dogs reacting to their owners come back after X amount of months in the armed forces or whatever and freaking the fuck out in obvious joy.It's not like this idea of friendships with animals is a new concept. The Illiad has Odysseus return home after years away and come across his loyal dog Argos, who has been neglected in his absence and is on his deathbed but still is able to recognize his master. So you're only arguing against all humans who have interacted with a dog from two and a half thousand years ago until now.
>>4534152>rational love ceases to be loveNo, love is a mental act which follows the same structure as every other mental act, (Representation -> Judgement -> Emotion). An emotion is simply the entire physiological plan to deal with the representation according to the judgement. For "lower" animals this judgement is seemingly entirely instinctual. For humans it becomes available to become the representational basis for another mental act. We can loop on our representations, that's it. Love does not become manipulation because you ratiocinate on it, no. It may, obviously, but that is not essential.
>>4533998No, that still is a room temp IQ. Being around other retards don’t make you smarter.
>>4527275it's true that only autists see the second and third layers of things while normies only see the first one. But that just means you're a retard.
>>4527398interesting how you went to attacking their looks. if you think they're bad you're not better than them.