>>4525088Fred the Dinosaurman is one of if not the best modern paleoartist
>>4525134I like it but that neck is way too thicc
>>4525142Maybe a little bit.I like how he made it sexually dimorphic in that image tho
>>4525172he got the head right and I like the body proportions.I don't care for the WWD tail whip but that one has to run its course.
>>4525176Isn't the tail KNOWN to be like that tho? I agree it probably couldn't crack it like a whip, but the tail was indeed super thin at the end
>>4525182yeah the tail was super thin at the end. The whip cracking part is the thing I have trouble with. His depiction looks like the WWD whip crackers right down to the loops and stripes.but future scientists will come out against that. Paid contrarians.
>>4525061Ah yes, the beak. Always the choicest bit for a predator.>>4525134Yeah, Fred is great. His dinos actually look like real animals (note: NOT Real Animals™).
>>4525057>>4525060>>4525061Threadly reminder: all modern "paleoartists" are sex perverts and edgefaggots.
>>4525088>>4525134Yeah he's great. He doesn't overfeather shit either.
>>4525330Nothing more than yet another excuse for engh to troon out.>Yeah, Fred is great. His dinos actually look like real animals (note: NOT Real Animals™).TRUTH.
>>4525423What a handsome boi. Nice to see at least one modern paleo-artist who still exercises good taste.>nooooo you NEED to give theropods whiskers, cocks-combs, neck quils, and perma-nictating membranes to give them zombie eyes!>you can't prove they didn't have them so I'm doing it!!Seriously, here's how to restore a theropod (or any prehistoric animal)>start with the skeleton>apply musculature>pick a plausible color schemeThere. Done. MAYBE add a little speculative flair in the right context (mating display, etc) but otherwise, walk away. You're done.Seriously, I am neither a professional artist nor a scientist and I still had the common sense and good taste to figure this out. Why can't they?
>>4525468Ugueto's pretty good too, but I don't like how he's stuck feathers on shit like Silesaurids. He SHOULD know better. But usually he doesn't go full feathertroon. I especially like his realistic take on dinosaur coloration. Banding on the tail is something that we can be pretty sure dinosaurs had because just about every reptile with any amount of tail has that.
>>4525468>Seriously, I am neither a professional artist nor a scientist and I still had the common sense and good taste to figure this out. Why can't they?Because the point is to subvert. NOTHING in the modern era is fucked up on accident. All of it is intentional. They get attention and money from creating outrageous bullshit. All science and paleo"""art""" at this point is just the National Enquirer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwv49YIVaussome or all of you might not like engh's paleoart, but what do you guys think of his music and cinematography?pic unrelated of course
>>4525689Oh god, you mean he raps?!? Do not want.The nicest thing I would have said about him before is that he had a cool speaking voice from his other videos. I had no idea that's what he was doing with it.
>>4525485>SubvertAnd accomplish what? If a lizard looks stupid you have nothing to live for and you'll cut off your dick? Retard
>>4525717>paleo-pipul strikes againSo if subversion so stupid and pointless, why do you insist upon it so strongly?If you're not actually committing it, why do you play devil's advocate and defend it?Eagerly awaiting further kvetching or "who even cares bro" tier arguments in your reply.
>>4525729Who are you talking to schizo
>>4525730I'm talking to you you faggot, where is the confusion here exactly?>he thinks pilpul is a name I'm calling him and not a description of what he's doing
>>4525689Is this what passes for "music" among zoomers?>It's enghHAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Shut up and post paleo art
>>4525689The monster looks cool. The singing is shit
>>4525689WELL. After forcing myself to sit through that cringe, I now realize brian engh is actually retarded and insulting his shitty "art" just feels empty somehow now.
Ah sweet a schizo thread
>>4525782You brought it on yourself.
>>4525769can't love the monsters without loving the music, homie
>>4525810That's fucking retarded
>>4525689Never got into his music but I like this one.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6x-EqIOg5c
>>4525810>I like that people come with that realOh god, he even speaks like a fucking wigger. I had no idea.
>>4525709getting headaches looking at this image
>>4525816Also known as Tyrannosaurus Americanus Rex.>>4525915It's cringe as fuck. It would be very good without the edgy voice and cosplay. Just the instrumental and the growing plants visuals would be perfect. >>4525689This is terrible. What a cringelord.
autistic derangement about a literally-who artist today fellas?
>>4526216every dayI never even heard of the dude before he managed to make the paleoschizo's tiny little head explode. Now I like him just for that. Keep drawing Scrotumsaurus Mr. Whoeverthefuckyouareplease don't rap again though.jesus christ on a popsicle stick.
>>4525468Overcorrection against the concept of dinosaurs as being some variant of giant lizards
>>4525659God voyager was so unbelievably fucking retarded
>>4525816Wasn't Sue notably mounted in a squashed way because it was otherwise too tall for the museum?
>>4526216>literally whoYou mean one of the most famous paleoartists currently active? His work is LITERALLY in museums. This retard.
>>4526217>NOOOO!!! HE'S CRINGE!!!>But I'll support him because u mad!Are you 13?
>>4526277Which was never that inaccurate to begin with. A lot of REALLY old ideas about dinosaurs like the idea that they were covered in crocodilian like scales are being vindicated. Most people still don't know this though. Triceratops had crocodile like scutes on its underside and rather large, robust scales, not the beaded, smooth surface found in Hadrosaurs, for example.>>4526284That really would not surprise me. Why is Sue the only T. rex that looks like that?
>>4525468>>4525485You're overcomplicating things.Basically it starts and ends from the perspective that 'dinosaurs are fat birds'. Essentially the cassowary became the biggest source of inspiration and influence for an entire generation of paleoartists.
>>4525415And most of the classic Paleo artist were pedophiles. Who cares? Post Paleo art anon.
>>4526285ask anyone outside of your hyperfixated autistic discord circlejerk who he is by name and post your response spaz
>can’t have a dinosaur related thread without some sperg crying about how art is all a conspiracy to make us gayWhy haven’t mods done anything about him? There are several boards with endemic schizos that the mods won’t do anything about. What the fuck is going on?
>>4526336i'm pretty sure he dodges ipbans constantly to shit up every thread he can. he needs a wrangler
>>4526291No it didn't. You're undercomplicating. The whole featherfaggotry started based entirely on internet contrarianism and because modern academia relies on publishing lies, shilling for corporations and publishing tabloid tier clickbait, natural selection caused the entire thing to spiral madly out of control.>>4526294Prove it.>>4526327In the paleo community? Everyone already knows who shitheads like engh or witton are. I'm glad they finally brought witton out of the shadows in the new season of PeePee I'm hate watching. Better to be honest about what pieces of shit are behind that catastrophe of anti-science than keep them in the shadows. I don't know why you feel the need to lie about this.>>4526336Why don't you legitimately kill yourself already? Oh wait, you're a woman and women are narcissists.
>>4526347did you need a personal aid when you were in school or were you homeschooled
>>4526347>you’re a womanWasn’t the slogan “you will never be a real woman”? What happened to that?Also fuck you I’ve got my Y chromosome
>>4526289If you look at the mount for more than 3seconds, you will realize it is squting
>>4526359No, I'm pretty sure you and your wife/girlfriend alternate spamming this board which is why it seems like you have multiple personalities.
Oh boy here come the PP shills.
>>4526384Shut the fuck up and post paleo art
>>4526387>ywn have a sinosauropteryx friend
>>4525057From the thumbnail I thought OP's pic was a cyborg dinosaur, and that the colored bits were metal parts.Very disappointed.
>>4526402>ywn have a huge, grumpy T. rex friend that will protect you with her lifeNGMI
>>4526383Pow! Right in the clacker!
>>4526336there's mods on this board?
>>4526385Amazing, whos the artist
>>4526277Which again, has nothing to do with the quest for truth and instead is just some sad pissing contest.>people (100 years ago, mind you) restored dinos in this inaccurate way?>well fine, we'll just KNOWINGLY restore them in this different inaccurate way (despite knowing better now) to level the playing field!That's not science, and it's not even good art.
>>4526291>Basically it starts and ends from the perspective that 'dinosaurs are fat birds'.Which is already a bad assumption to make when we're talking about theropods. Look around and tell me how many predators (of any class...reptile, bird, mammal, etc) you see that are fat. Wild ones specifically, so no fat overfed zoo animals please.
>>4526336>>can’t have a dinosaur related thread without some sperg crying about how art is all a conspiracy to make us gayThat's not what he ever said. How about you start thinking about what he actually says and stop responding to what you want him to have said?
>>4526425The only scientifically accurate paleoart.
>>4526564Peter Schouten. He's pretty good and focuses on Cenozoic stuff.
I wish paleoschizo would use a tripcode or something so I could filter him
>>4526372what is that
>>4525057>you know what? feathers aren't enough>how about PUBES
>>4526750I like their stuff
>>4526741>I wish paleoschizo would use a tripcode or something so I could filter himYou'd probably be shocked to learn he's most of the people you talk to on /an/he's the main reason the board is so stupid and hateful.
>>4526387The known color gang. It still baffles me that scientists can know the color of some dinosaurs
>>4526750>>4526927You just know
One of the few heavily speculative pieces of paleo art that actually looks cool and good
Any Paleozoic anons?
>>4527284Definitely better than Bond's stegosaur.
Just because it isn't in the fossil doesn't mean they didn't have these features
>>4527536>>4527537i wanna go home
>>4525415>posts image of a realistic event taking place>"NOoOOOOoooOOOOOOOhhhh!!!!!! IT'S GURU AND NECROPHILIA! I'M LITERALLY COPING AND SEETHING! NOOOOOOOOOO!"Are 4chan animal "experts" usually like this? asking as a tourist.
>>4528414Last name read as "janniensis" to my peripheral vision and i kek'd
>>4526877Took me a second.
>>4528414This is what happens when you don't circumcise your hadrosaurs.
>>4528471>NOOO!! THERE MUST BE DEAD BABIES!! THAT'S NORMAL!!What a teenager.
>>4528471It's more the cringe worthy description he gave of it
rather disconcerting how obsessed engh is with dead baby animals
>>4528494I'll agree on that honestly >'freak orgy"stfu sex-obsessed leftist>>4528492>"b-buh-buh babies don't ever die! all predators spare offspring because they just do, okay chud? wuh? WHAT DO YOU MEAN MALE LIONS EAT THE CUBS OF OTHER MALE LIONS? DISNEY LIED TO ME, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
>>4528511What exactly is this? Lystrosaurus fucked a pug, orrrr?????
>>4528517based? fat is an odd term to use for the rib-bound pitbull torso.
>>4528520That's not paleo art that's an Isle meme
>>4528517toadline anon will be happy
>>4525330>Yeah, Fred is great. His dinos actually look like real animals (note: NOT Real Animals™).This. Julio Lacerda does this too (pic rel). It's anatomically correct and scientifically plausible/up-to-date, but it's not excessive in the speculative elements and remains naturalist.Though, I get Brian Engh's thought process for his paleoart. But I do agree his dino designs are too over the top. Like I get some real animals had whiskers or bright colors or dewlaps and whatnot, but putting all of those onto one animal is excessive and unlikely reconstruction.
>>4528511>>4528515>>4528517SMASHED ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE PERMIAN
>>4525057Based dinos rocking the LGBTQ+ colors.
>>4531288>>4531289>>4531290This guy's Pteranodon is immaculate
>>4528517>>4528520>>4525709>>4525423I don’t know why there is so little memes with all these silly looking/expressive paleoart.
>>4531863Be careful what you wish for
>>4533022He wants a snack :)
>>4533022If you're cold, he's coldLet him in
>>4533367That's the first normal, good looking Dinosaur I've seen from Engh.
>>4533382It still looks like a frilly lady.
>>4525142That is what the neck actually looks like.
>>4526406No shit, 1920s paleontologists were pedantic and whiny too. Marsh famously didn't want any of his specimens mounted and sneered at anyone who tried because he didn't want the public to get "the wrong idea" about dinosaurs. Henry Fairfield Osborn was an absolute cocksucker, but most notably he padded out the length of Tyrannosaurus rex with ten solid feet of plaster vertebrae that never existed in the animal to begin with in order to make it an even 50 feet long, which weren't discovered until the 1970s. And it just goes on and on from there.Anyone who claims paleontologists were cool in "ye olden days" and now they're all whiny no-fun bros is looking at the field through serious nostalgia goggles.
>>4528501>>4528492The current working hypothesis for the Mesozoic is there would be dead babies everywhere. Mostly because dinosaurs bred like rabbits, and most predators prefer to target young animals they can easily overpower. Parental care is also suggested to not be much of a thing in some dinosaur groups like sauropods, so the bear-and larger sized juveniles would mostly be on their own. Kind of like alligators where they have a ton of babies and despite some parental care 75% of them get merced by herons.https://www.google.com/amp/s/phys.org/news/2009-08-chicken-hearted-tyrants-predatory-dinosaurs-baby.ampPaleontologists all over the place have been playing this up to highlight how the Mesozoic is *not* the modern world, where almost all large animals are mammals with small litter sizes and have much shorter juvenile periods. This is why PP seems so fixated on showing dead baby dinosaurs everywhere.>>4528471Yes. /an/ tends to be more schizo than either /b/ or /pol/.
>>4533694Oh jesus, you're being serious. Death to all modern paleontologists.
>>4533739It really does go in cycles.>19th century>"oh cool, there were huge dinosaurs across North America and early birds in Germany. I guess that's where all this coal comes from.">20th century>"Why did dinosaurs go extinct? Because they were slow and stupid and my math proves they couldn't lift themselves up so they must have swam around instead">90's>"Oh cool, dinosaurs were more like birds and were really fast and smart and took care of their young, if it wasn't for that asteroid they'd be reptilian troodon people">10's>"Actually dinosaurs were covered in feathers and my math proves they probably didn't take care of their young and also my math proves that T-Rex probably ran underwater because they couldn't carry their own weight."Like pic related was the "awesomeosaurus" of its day that the 20th century paleontologists wanted to crack down on.
>>4533747Yeah, I'm just entirely tired of mankind. This weird need for every generation to "rebel" and act like they're nuhot shit is really fucking obnoxious. I want to smash everyone with a hammer that acts like this.
>>4533751Rebelling and being contrarian is the only way to get your grant funded and your papers published.Like the retarded "dead baby" thing for example shows a complete lack of common sense. Infant mortality from being crushed to death by your own parent is completely unheard of in just about any species, and there are far more simple explanations like predation or disease.
>>4525134Fred’s always got the good shit
>>4525689Jesus Christ, the absolute state of this fag, part of me feels bad given that he seems to clearly not realize just how terrible his “music” is
>>4525734Meds bro, goddamn
for me, it's Spriggina
>>4533694>Paleontologists all over the place have been playing this up to highlight how the Mesozoic is *not* the modern worldAnd anytime you see paleontologists playing up something, no matter what it is, what you're really seeing is agenda.If something is likely the truth, it won't need "playing up" because it will speak for itself.
>>4533382no, its nottheres no reason for fibers to be around the ear holes, its not like a dog or any other fossorial animals that would need such adaption, even among extant reptilestheres no reason for it to have a beak, because for one, its huge so it dont need precision biting; secondly it doesnt need to chop things up since dinosaur beaks are cope for incisors
>>4533751>This weird need for every generation to "rebel" and act like they're nuhot shit is really fucking obnoxious. I want to smash everyone with a hammer that acts like this.Anon even if there are always missteps, that weird thing has got us to where we are today. Even if today is still filled of problems. Either accept it and make peace with it as a part of life or go Kaczynski mode, which is viable and respectable in its own right.
>>4533869>If something is likely the truth, it won't need "playing up" because it will speak for itself.This is incredibly naive. People are stupid and will cling to things that aren't true just because they've been memed so hard like how people still to this day believe in owls as wise creatures.
>>4533828That tetrapod is as confused as I am NOPED.>>4533832Has to be related to trilobites. I don't care that they can't find mouth and anus of it!
>>4533879or owls hoot, when its only barn owls
>>4528517He Rob Liefeld-ed the lystrosaur
>>4525057Nigga got a thyroid dissease
>>4533869Correct.>>4533878The modern age is wrong. Kaczynski was right.>>4533879Or that moderate drinking is healthy.
>>4533879That doesn't negate what I said. You're talking about proving a commonly accepted misconception wrong. I'm talking about not having to push an agenda for something that's actually true, because it won't be needed. Ironically the term you used "memed so hard" is exactly what I mean.To go back to dead babies everywhere, of course predators went for the young back then, just as they do today. It's almost self-evident and speaks for itself with a bit of common sense. So there shouldn't be a need to "highlight it" by cranking out drawings of babies getting chomped on left and right. Imagine if all the art of the modern Serengeti was of baboons eating baby impalas alive and ass first (which they do). Well if you commission Brian Engh for the job, that's what you'll likely get.
>>4534041I know we can all think of a counter example or two, but typically there's a difference between an agenda and a fetish. The trend of degenerates in paleo art may be symptomatic of something further up stream but I'm not seeing a narrative here.
>>4534046The're indistinguishable. Retards working together for mutual benefit is literally a conspiracy. It doesn't have to go any further than that. Midwits have been convinced by glowniggers that aliens or satanists have to be involved. They don't.
It’s another cryptocreationist paleo schizo thinks feathers and raptors eating tiny lizards somehow “subvert” something and further an “agenda”Dude is literally christian weston chandler tier
>>4534084You don Understand!the FeaTHers! they want me to wear Colorful feathers and Suck cock! that's why they put dinos in drag and doing unmanly thingsTHEY want ME to wear feather and do unmanly things!
>>4525134I am 100% convinced this is what allosaurus looked like. It’s a perfect reconstruction
>>4533367least monsterfied Brian Engh dinosaur.
>>4534125Any reconstruction that gives the lion of the jurassic lion coloration is a win in my book
>>4534143How tf did people even go to the beach when things like this existed
>>4534190because people didn't exist back when these were still around
>>4526347>why don't you kill yourself!Take your own advice, armchair paleontologist-kun
>>4533828This pic filled me with a deep sense of dread idk why
>>4527284Therizinosaurs are fuckin spooky
>>4533739>>4533747No actual arguments as usual I see.
>>4534140Azdarchids were MASSIVELY based
>>4535157I agree. Too bad it’s going to be saturated with depictions of them snacking on baby dinosaurs while curbstomping large theropods like the T. rex for the forseeable future, though, just to show “how scary they can be”.
I read that as paleofart lol
>>4535198Don't worry, pal, I wont let you leave disappointed.