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>>4492828
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remember my shitty hugelkultur
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>>4508556
looks like this now
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>>>/out/homegrow
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and the shitty pond.
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>>4508559
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oh and the rock garden.
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>>4508562
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fading back into obscurity now let me know if you need advise but I honestly don't really do shit in my yard besides pull the occasional weed.
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peek my groenlandia densa before I go.
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>>4508557
>>4508560
>>4508564
looks nice, low maintenance?
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>>4508576
everything is low maintenance if you choose to neglect it.
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>>4508577
well, not really, if something looks like shit because you neglect it, it's not low maintenance, if something looks good if you neglect it, it is.
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>>4508557
>>4508560
That looks incredible!

I got my cranberries yesterday, I thought I had another bag of sphagnum but I must have used it so I dropped them into a pot with some sarracenia which I suspect is dead. Since the soil is just peat and perlite I put a few spheres of osmocote around, once I repot them I'll add some worm castings to the mix.
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>shower my plants often
>see one plant looking a little sad
>been close to a week since it got showered
>inspect it
>massive thrip infestation

Thrips are really killing this hobby...
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>>4508557
>>4508560
>>4508564
>>4508577
'mirin
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>>4508560
does it have fish?
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nature
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>>4508784
you generally want to avoid fish in shallow ponds like this, but there's some cottus living in it, which are carnivorous and won't stir up the soil/eat the plants.

if you were to put goldfish, or any other carp for that matter in it the entire thing would be ruined in a month.
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>>4508654
Water it (and your other plants) with spinosad for a couple of weeks and they'll all be gone.
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>>4508812
damn and I've just added a goldfish to my shallow pond today. The idea was that it would eat larvae and algae, and hopefully not the lillies
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>>4508954
RIP lilies.
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>>4508557
Just looks like any unmaintained garden during the spring flush of growth.
You could have achieved this by doing absolutely nothing, so as far as I can tell, your extra effort was a waste of time.
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>>4509080
nobody asked.
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>>4509161
It was me. I asked.
>>4509080
Thank you for your expertise.
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>rare aroids
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discovering new and exciting varieties of fungus via being extremely bad at taking care of plants
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>>4508564
>>4508560
>>4508557
Looks great
Does it need any water in summer?
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Guise, help me with this pretty please?
>>>/wsr/1349595
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>>4510102
looks like a tiny cactus


anybody know what this thing is in palmetto bush? there are a few others, one about 4 feet tall in the middle.
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tall ones in middle
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>>4510105
The flower stems? Some plants like that produce tall stems with small flowers on top. Maybe the flowers already were pollinated and fell in this case.
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>>4510119
they are just flower stems? thats a relief, ty anon.
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>>4510130
That's not saw palmetto (Serenoa repens), which is actually a true palm.
It looks more like a some species of Furcraea (or maybe something else within the Avagoideae subfamily of Asparagaceae).
As with some Agaves, some Furcraea can die after flowering (sometimes immediately, sometimes not).
You will want to find out exactly what the plant is so you can have a better idea of what will happen to it.
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>>4510150
ok, ty for that. don't want it to die.
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>>4510155
If it's a species that naturally dies after flowering it will 100 per cent die after flowering, no matter what you do.
If those plants die you might (depending on species) be able to propagate little ones from bulbils or seeds.
But first you need to identify the plants so you know what's going to happen.
Take the best pics you can (especially of flowers) and upload them to apps/sites such as plant.id and pl@ntnet identify.
Then post results...
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>>4510150
>Avagoideae
I meant Agavoideae. I can only plead drunkenness.
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>>4510130
I think something like this.
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>>4510207
BENIS :DDDDDDD
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Anyone cultivating Fuchsias? Several of my neighbors have them and they look very nice.
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>>4508526
Is it wise to buy seeds online ?
If so, what are the best websites for that ?
I really want a lot of diversity for the garden but my local stores can only provide vegetables seeds.No nursery aroud.
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>>4510207
a vagoidea is fine too
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>>4510353
>Is it wise to buy seeds online ?
depends on what seeds but as a rule of thumb, don't buy from chinks.

>If so, what are the best websites for that ?
Again, it depends. Also, where are you at? The US and australia are very strict concerning the import of seeds of any kind so you'll have to look at local dealers/websites.
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>>4508559
>>4508560
Very nice. Plsease guys post more pond inspirations for smaller spaces like this.
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>>4510295
xDDDDD
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>>4510353
tastes pretty bad
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>>4510445
meant for >>4510312
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>>4510312
aphid magnets
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>>4510413
OMG is that a rare aroid? I'm offering you 300 bucks for half a leaf- no, 500 bucks!
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>>4510386
I am where the wych elms are. In the Old Continent.
I am interested in privets and white mulberry, for example.
I don't want anything that can threaten my environment and local plants.
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>>4510445
>>4510447
You were right for both anyway !
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>>4510207
It reminds me of pic related.
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>>4510510
Brits are getting the shaft as well https://sustainablefoodtrust.org/news-views/importing-seeds-after-brexit/

The plants you pointed out I don't think are commonly grown from seeds, you might have more luck going to a local nursery.
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>>4510521
those are apenioideae
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>>4508786
...is sublimely gorgeous !
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>>4510524
If you are referring to the picture I used, it is supposed to be a Fungi of the Prototaxitaceae family.
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>>4510528
Mushrooms really are diverse and beautiful.
I wish they were cultivated as much as plants !
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>>4510528
I know, it was a joke harking back to the avagoideae comment
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>>4510522
It really is sad : you can found avocados, mangos, even coconuts in stores. All this alongside tropical and exotic plants of all shapes with God knows what diseases and parasites. But importing, carefully selected, seeds for you garden is highly reglemented.
What would Sir Robert Brown thinks about this ?
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>>4510534
You mean the Agaonidae ?
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>>4508557
Patience is key, it seems ! Nice !
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>>4510532
are there even any mushroom cultivars
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>>4510565
They do sell mushrooms kits but it is usually the same comestible species you found in markets. To my knowledge, there is no nursery specializing in the cultivation of ornamental mushrooms... Which is a shame.
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>>4510565
>>4510581
I mean, who wouldn't want that in their garden ?
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>>4510461
No it's only rare if it's vaginated.
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>>4508526
Does anyone know how to make humus in desert conditions? I love cacti but would like to try something else. Also, if you have any suggestions for plants or trees that are resistant to drought and extremely alkaline soil, I'm all ears.
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>>4510565
not for ornemental, but for food and especially psychoactive species yes
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztanbNnw0ak

i thought you guys said wait for the debris to decompose?

this one has the perfect fruit trees and it looks like shes dumping fresh fruit and scraps???
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>>4510295
>BENIS :DDDDDDD
I'm very impressed by the standard of penis-plant posting in this thread.
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The standard of vagina-plant posting can still improve.
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How bad of an idea is it to fill a bucket with liquid fertilized water(which i use normally), and then dip all my planted pots down into it?

Surely any pests in the pot could easily end up in another?
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>>4511042
If you got scale insects, know that they can survive submersion. Thrips hate humid environment but using vaseline or vegetal oil work best to get rid of them. Remember that some plants need to have their soil moistened before using fertilizer and that other can loose their levae if exposed to oil.
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>>4511042
>>4511047
>"levae" for leaves
Here what can happen with oil.
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>>4511024
I'm doing my part !
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>>4511047
I sometimes submerge the pots into emulsified neem oil to combat pests in the soil. I've killed a few types of plants with wiping the leaves with it too..
And yes, I want to submerge for the sake of the potting medium sucking it all up. It's such a waste to see it all drain out quickly normally.
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>>4510995
It takes up to a year for nutrients in organic waste to reach form usable by plants after being processed by bacteria, springtails and worms.
Until then you just have an orgy of decomposition in there. It's something you could do in raised beds, since the soil volume is huge, but in pots it's unsanitary and inefficient. And you could easily end up with nitrogen burn since you have no control over fertilization process.
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>>4511057
I usually make a liquid fertilizer dilution into a bottle and then water the plants through the pot saucer. Than prevent the transmission of parasites between pots.
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>buy nice Adenium seedling three years ago
>leaves always grow tiny
>decide to buy a new nice Adenium seedling
>take it home
>a week later all the new leaves are tiny just like the other plant
WTF
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>>4511267
>use rich houseplant soil in a big pot
>water lots when it's growing
>don't let the soil dry out for too long when it's dormant
>fertilise often
Are you doing those? Adenium are tropical plants that survived the desertification of their habitat, only think of them as succulents during their dormancy (assuming they have a dormancy in your growing conditions).
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>>4511267
I had the same problem with my rubber fig. Each time new leaves would sprout out they were atrophied. The buds would stay small shriveled up and die. Turns out that it was a thrips attack. Watch out for those tiny bugs !
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>>4508526
Is εtsy a reliable site to buy plants?
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>>4511311
That's like asking if ebay is a reliable site to buy plants from. 100% depends on the seller, and the prices are mostly going to be private grower prices, not nursery prices. Overall I've had good experiences using the site in the past, aside from knowing I overpaid for some plants. Just make sure to look at their star rating and read reviews before purchasing.
I really highly recommend shopping around first and only ever using it as a last resort for snagging rarer wishlist plants. I don't mind supporting private growers instead of mega nurseries, but the sellers tend to waaaay overinflate the price because they know clueless idiots scrolling through esty will see a picture of a pretty plant and click buy without shopping around first.
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>>4511054
Nice.
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>>4511293
all of those
even tried different waters (tap/distilled/spring)
watered this new seedling a couple of times, repotted in houseplant mix, BANG, tiny leaves just like the older plant
no sign of pests either
i think i am just cursed by this genus
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>>4510193
its a dwarf palmetto. i will let it flower and take my chances
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>>4511311
Nope, ebay is way more trustworthy
Legit sellers just don't use etsy, the audience for etsy is stupid women who know fuck all, who want to buy 'rare plants' because they're trend following drones and don't know anything about what the general market prices the plants at, so buys extremely overpriced and often gouged (like going to a local nursery and then selling the plant for 3-4 times the cost) plants
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>>4511588
>its a dwarf palmetto
No, it isn't.
Just look at a photo of a dwarf palmetto (Sabal minor). Your plants are nothing like a dwarf palmetto.
They are clearly in the family Asparagaceae, just like Asparagus, Agave and Furcraea.
See those little browned-off triangular leafy things on the floral scape ("flower spike")?
You see the same thing on the floral scapes of Agaves and on the stalks of Asparagus that you buy from the supermarket.
Your plants are not palms. They are Asparagaceae. My best guess is some kind of Furcraea.
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I have a lot of plants that spread out wide and look great when you look at them from above. But I've run out of space on the floor.
Surely I can just tilt the plant, pot and all, sideways and hang on the wall?
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>>4511365
>>4511631
Thank you very much ! ebay seems indeed to be more interesting.
I am fairly new to all this "online shopping" so your personal experiences are really helpful !
Have a nice day !
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>>4511829
If you tilt the pot, it won't be as easy to water the plant I guess... Other than that, they should naturally reorient themselves thanks to phototropism.
I've done it with my pothos and they are just fine. What plants do you have ?
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>>4512203
I check what else the seller sells. If I see photoshopped shit like blue strawberries I just nope. These scams take advantage on how long it takes for a seed to look like a recognizable plant so by the time the victim realizes the seed is not what was advertised it already is too late. Maybe you can get legit shit from these guys too but who knows when you will be the one being scammed and not the one used for building reputation?
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>>4511565
Well, if it's any consolation, right now most of my plants are doing great, but my Dorstenia gigas is also sending out tiny leaves and I don't know why either. It did well last year and nothing's changed.

>>4511702
Looking at the leaves in >>4510105, it certainly does look like a palm, and in >>4510104 you can even see a typical folded fan leaf going into the upper right corner. Additionally, after looking up the inflorescence of Sabal minor, the flower stalks are definitely those of the palm. Whether it's Sabal minor or a related or similar species, no idea, but it is certainly no Asparagaceae sp.
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>>4512203
Listen to this anon >>4512216
These types operate on both ebay and etsy. They scam. Sometimes you get seeds from them, most of the time you don't. If you do get seeds from them, they won't be what you ordered. Last I saw someone getting burnt from them they were claiming that the guy running the business was out of office until the end of the year (wtf)
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>>4512232
all the best to you and your dorstenia anon fren
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>>4512232
Well fuck me and my amateur overconfidence. Thanks for pointing out my glaring mistake.
Apologies to >>4511588 and >>4510104.
I'll go and give myself an uppercut now.
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Check out the incredibly tight growth habit and sun stress on this stuff! Saw it while hiking in the white mountains at around 4,000 feet above sea level. This patch probably gets close to 10 hours of direct sun a day, and through much thinner air.
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What is this?
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>>4512815
Nvm, found this
https://www.tradewindsfruit.com/content/blue-lilly-pilly.htm
I have three massive bushes and they are pretty tasty
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>>4512815
dog arse tree
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>>4512833

Pretty. I wouldn't dare to eat them if found these, they look poisonous.
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>>4510353
I only buy from "local" (in state/country) seed stores. My neighbour buys shit on ebay and gets sent wrong varieties or bad seeds.
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>>4512216
>>4512293
Indeed, I saw a lot of weird stuff...
I will do as both of you said, and probably only order from sellers who have an official websites with a Seed Certification.
It will probably be more pricey but I don't want to end up with seeds that have a potential environmental risk or just don't sprout.
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>>4513119
Man I wish blowjob plant was real.
It makes so much sense too, male animals love humping random things and would gladly share the seed.
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>>4513196
There are plants that mimic female insects to attract male bugs. You can also carve a hole on some fruits and veggies and use as onaholes.
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My tomatoes
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>>4513364
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>>4513366
>>4513364
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>>4513364
>>4513366
>>4513369
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>>4513366
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>>4513376
Can see the early signs of blight on a few leaves.
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total mosquito death
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>>4513457
it really is awesome how good carnivores are at keeping pests out of my face
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>All the local shops that normally carry Ladybugs has been outta stock for over a month
>Aphids are mauling my Roses
fucking hell, am I really gonna have to resort to chemical warfare?
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>>4513810
Just grow ladybugs
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>>4511048
That's why you rinse it off after 30 minutes. Also need oil is what should be used. And cold-pressed to mix yourself instead of buying something premixed
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>>4514099
neem, fuck off autocorrect
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Got all 72 of these ghost pepper plants for 30$
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>>4513810
Aphids are the easiest pest. Small infestations can literally be rubbed off with your fingers, or blasted of with a jet of water.
Spraying with rubbing alcohol wrecks them.
>>4514099
After all the hype surrounding neem, I can confirm it does jack shit to the root mealybugs that destroyed half my succ collection, it just made the pots smell like nutty diarrhea.
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>>4510597
Swales and leguminous trees/shrubs. Check out Geoff Lawton if you haven't already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1cgx33E3LM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg_YzAdjU_U
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>>4514410
Thanks a lot anon. Really thought-inspiring videos !
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>>4508526
Are there any plants that can help repel dogs without hurting them ?
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My ficus plant (ficus microcarpa) lost a lot of leaves on top when I got it because I didn't have a plant light yet. now there is a plant light, but it's barely growing any leaves on top. instead there are now long new branches growing from the middle of the trunk. how can i make it so that it starts growing leaves at the top instead and stop it from focusing on growing new branches from the middle?

some more context: there are small green buds at the top branches, but they just aren't growing into leaves, it's been months. i'm also trying to aim the plant light so that it's mostly aimed at the top branches.

sorry for no picture.
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>>4514992
Trim the long branches and pray the tree awakes whatever buds you want it to.
Even just trimming the tips should stimulate some buds, apical dominance and all.
Ficus is a strong plant, so you could give it heavy trim if you feel like it. Bonsai people often completely defoliate them to get new growth.
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>adansonii already fenestrating at this size

Need to put it on a thicker mosspole so that it can grow those aerial roots to replace the ones in the pot.
With such a thin base, like 5mm diameter, surely it can not sustain itself off the pots roots when it grows larger? Or is the pumping simply going to get stronger and girth itself up?
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>go into greenhouse
>look at all my cacti and succulent seedlings
>look at my small growing cacti on Index I of CITES
>look at my collection of conophytum and lithops
>all pretty good, they make me happy
>go look at the corner of my collection
>see the 4 euphorbias I have, each of which I purchased for $6 and which I generally ignore
>huge specimens, never had any issues growing them and flowering every year
>feel a lot of joy
I think I'll buy more Euphorbia simply because they do so well in my greenhouse
I've realised sometimes it can be more satisfying growing plants that do really well in your collection versus those which you really want
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>>4510388
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>>4514704
Chilli peppers?
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Thought I lost the sarracenia after it came out of dormancy and immediately got hit by a cold snap but new growths are coming in. The bog is gonna be good, I can feel it.
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>>4511311
>tfw I bought a jade vine some years ago and it just slowly died I could hear the dried out leaves falling off as I tried to sleep and it kept me up :(
I don't know what went wrong, I had plenty of other tropicals that did fine, it was indoors by a bright window and I live in a very humid area (including inside my old not well sealed or insulated house lol).
One of these days I'm going to buy another.
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Any of y'all know any stores in the US with Impatiens Niamniamensis?
Only one I can find with it in stock is Logee's but there's is a hybrid with red and white flowers, I want the normal red and yellow variety.
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>>4515484
Euphorbia are the GOAT genus
>over 2000 species from tiny herb to stronk tree
>adapated to almost every climate on earth
>poisonous sap to deter predators
>only genus that utilises all three methods of photosynthesis
>multiple examples of convergent evolution:
>succulence
>pointed spines like cacti
>explosive seed pods
>pseudanthia, are they flowers? you tell me!
>the sheer size and variety of the genus confounds and angers botanists to this day
>zero use to humans but doesn't give af
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>>4515843
>year 2137
>humanity reached stars and starts to explore exoplanets
>mankind finally lands on a planet with atmosphere very close to earth
>seems death and barren at first
>eventually scientists find life!
>small plant that doesn't reseble anything from earth
>after years of research the results are in
>it's euphorbia
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>>4515449
>my favourite band is The
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I found a bug that was really interested in one of my pots, who is he?
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>>4516678
he cute
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>>4508526
Retard gardener here.
If I planted flowers, corn, carrots, and other stuff a month ago and it still hasn't sprouted at all, is it safe to assume the seeds are dead?
Little weeds pop up but nothing I planted seems to be coming together, I think the squirrels got my flowers.
There was one final frost in late april and I think it may have killed most of my seeds.
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>>4516799
You can look up germination times by species it's usually printed on the seed pack. I don't know where you live but the problem I have with direct sowing seed is that full sun will dry up little seedlings with shallow roots real quick. So I sew most stuff in trays indoors and plant stuff out when I see true leaves and they're large enough to survive harsh sun.
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>>4516814
Yeah, the soil did get very dry a few times so they may have dried out.
I didn't think that was something that happened until later, I figured since the seeds are underground it wouldn't be as much of an issue as it was.
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>>4516839
Some stuff you can direct sow without much issue. Usually the larger the seed the easier it is. I'll direct sow pumpkins, sunflowers, nasturtiums and get good results. Gotta watchout for squirrels when direct sowing tasty seeds like pumpkins and corn. I'll use bird netting on pex tube hoops on stuff like that until the seedlings are big and untasty.
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>>4515184
i didn't want to go that far but i guess i should try, thanks!
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>>4516799
F
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>want to get into keeping succulents
>get a sempervivum to start out
>keep it directly under a lamp at all times since none of my windows get any substantial sunlight
>starts to grow weirdly (very spread out and long leaves, completely lost the spiderweb look it had, offshoots are basically long vines), look it up and the internet says it's because it's not getting enough light somehow
>try to rectify this by putting it out in my greenhouse
>check on it after a few hours to see if I should take it back in
>it looks like someone hit half of it with a blowtorch; a bunch of the leaves are totally desiccated and the offshoots are completely limp
Oh my god this sucks; I should just stick to pothos
I wanna just throw it away out of shame, but can't because it's still alive and I feel bad for it
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>>4517187
Post pics so we can see what's going on.
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>>4517203
Well, I know what's going on: Too little light, followed by too much sun.
FTR, it's not as vibrant of a green in real life. I just have a very old and very bad camera.
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>>4517187
>>4517210
Don't worry, it'll recover, but keep in mind that Sempervivum as a genus needs a temperate climate. You can never grow it indoors.
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>>4517187
>he hasn't passed the Aloe test
Oh dear
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>blurple grow lights
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I have a seedling mango that's got to be about 3+ years old now, IIRC it was from an Ataulfo. Anyway, partially due to neglect I'm sure, it's stayed very small. Even now it's like maybe 8" tall or less, with a weird twisty trunk. But just recently it's decided to start branching, popped out three bunches off new leaves at the same time.
So the question is, should I try to keep this as, or make it into, a sort of bonsai or at least a very compact container plant?
Once the new leaves mature and harden up I'm going to repot it since it's in a shitty non draining pot only half full with constantly wet soil lol. And then once it gets over that, start actually fertilizing it and all that. I'm hoping it takes off but stays compact.
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>>4514704
Pyracantha is spiky
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>>4510312
Pain in the arse as they grow like mad, they work well as hedging though
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>>4510312
They have edible berries, and some varieties are quite tasty, like a cross between a grape and a blueberry.
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>>4517723
what are those exactly ? both mine have spicy taste (tried flowers only)
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>>4517784
>what are those exactly ?
Go for species rather than ornamental varieties if you want tasty berries.
https://morningchores.com/growing-fuchsias/
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>>4513810
Just put them outside and wait. Aphids are terrestrial plankton, some bug or bird will eventually find and eat yours.
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I made a short video about the countryside in the area I live in.
Its a mix of animals/plants/insects, i thought some of you may enjoy it.
Sadly I recorded it at 30fps so quality isnt the best it could've been
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2KXBlgrOr4

Theres also a lot of white poppies in the area I filmed this but I rather not show them (you're supposedly not allowed to grow them without authorization)
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Anyone know a torrent or YouTube channel or database of some kind that stores time lapse footage of plant growth and blooming?
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HAHA YES
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>>4518536
YES
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>>4518539
YES
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>>4518546
YES
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>>4518547
Bonus toad
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>>4518040
"Fuchsia coccinea – This is one of the best-tasting, by far. The seeds are tiny, and as long as I left the berries on the plant until they were as dark as possible, there was no strange aftertaste like some of the others I sampled."

i cant find it, fug
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Found a small grouping of Aquilegia astrata during a walk.
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>>4518547
need to mulch under those with straw to keep the berries safe
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>>4518548
What's his problem?
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>>4518123
Nice video, anon
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>>4518739
He is froggin toadally pissed off
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>>4518962
Thanks anon I may revisit it as the season progresses to film a new one with higher framerate and to show the differences as months pass.
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>>4518123
Nice
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>>4519003
Heh, found one of these recently
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sowed half a dozen different flower seeds in trays
when it came time to transplant them they had only grown 2/3 true leaves but the roots were 8 inches long
what gives?
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>>4518548
I found a toad in a bag of compost once
thought it was a potato
then it moved
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>>4519044
holy shit
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>>4516678
Looks like Typical Treehoppers.
Tylocentrus genius maybe ?
Fascinating creatures of wonders.
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>>4517706
Nice ! And it's bird-friendly !
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Give it to me straight bros,does my mango has stem/root rot? is almost a year since i plant it.
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>>4519746
That black thing appear over night. for comparison, i posted this one a couple of threads ago from the same angle.
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>>4519024
Tasty!
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>>4518604
FUCK-Sia

-nah shes old and ugly
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I want to find and propagate some willows to start a little rooting hormone farm for plant propagation. I can't seem to find any willows.
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>>4520362
lmao
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>>4520362
I was planning the same thing. I'm just gonna buy a willow sappling from the local nursery they sell them for like $5. I am currently soaking honey locust and false indigo seeds for dat dere nitrogen fixing
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>>4520362
rather jus buy aspirins
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>>4508567
plant name please
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>Take a walk in the woods by my local lake because the weather's nice
>See a small nandina shrub, pull it up because invasive
>Walk another few feet down path
>See like half a dozen more nandinas

Does anyone else regret learning how to identify random wild-growing plants due to the fact that it makes it impossible to ignore how badly the native flora is getting mogged by invasive East Asian shit? Maybe this is just exclusive to the Southeastern U.S., but I feel like I can't step outside without seeing a million nandinas, privets, and Chinese tallow trees.
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>>4521044
The familiar ecology will be phased out whether you pluck one privet or a million
This is the anthropocene just deal with it
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>>4521044
>Does anyone else regret learning how to identify random wild-growing plants
Eh, not really.
You quickly realise that you're living in an ecological dumpster fire, but for me it's better to know the truth than to live in ignorance.
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I recently learned about plants that have Fasciate.
these things are wild looking as fuck

Imagine if all plant life evolved to do this normally
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>>4521388
It looks especially weird with asparagus
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>>4521044
No, I'm not a hysterical redditor losing his mind over dem invaserinos pulling random weeds from the ground like some sort of brain damaged ape.
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>>4521392
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>>4521647
AH I'M GONNA GROOOFT
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>>4521655
gooooo
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My first petunia. I will eat it when the time comes. :D
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>>4521044
But japanese honeysuckle smells so good.
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Really dumb question, but how thick is too thick before a cutting won't root anymore? My apartment building has these thorny rose bushes all along the side of the building and this ones getting a big unruly. Was gonna just cut it and toss it but if it can still root out I've got a spare 5ish gallon pot it could go in. Would make a neat little deck tree/bush or something.
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>>4521692
Japanese honeysuckle and autumn olive have taken over the entire Northeast US, but get a pass because they smell nice.
Meanwhile, oriental bittersweet is literally the devil and has been equally successful.
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>>4521857
Autumn olive fruit leather is really tasty in case anyone is wondering.
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>>4521860
Didn't realize they produced edible fruit. May need to get one.
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>>4521862
Just forage wild ones. They're everywhere. Highway departments used to use them to stop erosion before realizing how invasive they were, so they're planted all along roadsides. The little berries are sour and sweet and when you make them into fruit leather they taste like those fruit roll-ups mom used to put into your lunch box. Highly recommend. Look for silvery leaves and glittery red berries around October.
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>>4521868
Yeah. I know where there are a lot of them on public land. Would just need to get one without making a mess or getting people yelling at me. Unlike smaller plants, taking entire shrubs is less covert.
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>>4521871
Might just snag a small one and then set it up in good soil rather than risk ruining anyone's day if I decide to grab one.
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I was wondering if I could graft tomatoes, peppers, etc on a potato and never harvest the potatoes. The potatoes would serve mainly as a reserve for frutification and when some shit happen like if I’m out of town and the plant stay without water and stuff.
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>>4521857
Oriental bittersweet and japanese knotweed can both go to hell! Worst invasives in my area.
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>>4521887
>japanese knotweed
The ugliest plant on Earth that grows everywhere to where the people who would normally be responsible for removing it have given up? The plant that actively uglifies anywhere it's allowed to grow? Yeah, fuck that plant.
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>>4521887
>>4521909
>japanese knotweed
Holy shit. What a fucking disaster for everyone who has it on their property.
https://www.newsweek.com/japanese-knotweed-driving-men-murder-257257
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>>4521517
If I see a piece of litter on the ground and I'm reasonably near a garbage can, I pick it up and throw it away. Will this have any measurable effect on the billions of pounds of litter pollutiing the country? No, of course not, but it's still one less piece of plastic waste waiting to get choked on by a turtle or a duck. The same principle applies here, though in this case I quickly realized how pointless the whole exercise was when I realized it was a whole damn forest of nandina rather than one isolated shrub. Maybe you would develop more of a healthy respect for your local ecology if you spent more time enjoying it and less time inventing and subsequently getting angry at hypothetical reddit users. :)
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I am not new to gardening however I am new to sourcing the plants.

...surely there is a cheaper way to do all if this?

Half dead hydrangea for $30? Who the fuck is spending $12 on hostas?
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>>4517696
I know its probably for a good reason but I've only ever seen purple grow lamps for weed plants
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>>4522306
I have some. They're alright as supplemental lights. They suck as primary lights because you won't see obvious health problems with your plants as easily and they make plants look shitty. Everything turns high contrast pink-purple or near black. Also seedlings grown under them are always real leggy for some reason. If you're going to overwinter plants and wanna give them a little extra juice, or you grow vegetables or weed indoors and you have a strict protocol and you just want to blast plants with light for cheap they're okay but they kinda suck otherwise.
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>>4522297
Local garden sales are fun, if you haven't missed them all. Can get perennials starting at like $3.
Craigslist. Facebook Market. Any other things like that.
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hola

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QVkzP_VGf5g

amateur succulent grower here, for the past two years i've having a process of buying succulents, repotting them in a bigger pot and selling the babies, turns out it was so slow, unprofitable and inconsistent, i lately stumbeled upon some chinese growers and it seems like they all follow the process of planting in-ground, than repotting when its big enough.

its kinda confusing to me because every succulent guide says they need drainage but these people are obviously growing in clay, can someone who do this profesionaly or know the process give me and idea of how these guys grow these? and manage not to rot them or overwater them
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Is it true that foliage fertilizer effect only lasts for 3 days?

If true can i dope the shit out my coleus and basil seedlings (they're currently in plastic cups) like spray them every 3 days to gain time?
Will that be harmful?
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>>4508954
Goldfish are shit machines, they create more algae than they can possibly eat. Mosquitoes are easily taken care of by backswimmers, dragonflies, newts, water beetles and all the other animals that goldfish prevent from colonizing the pond. Honestly you should get rid of the fish
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>>4510388
My pond.
I took this picutre in april, it's a lot more overgrown now.
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>>4522297
Look at what grows naturally in your area, learn the names, learn how to harvest their seeds and make a garden for free.
Neglecting parts of your garden can also give you some interesting species. Pic related is a wild orchid growing spontaneously in my land.
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why didn't any of you niggas tell me about the wonders of using vermiculite for seedlings
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>>4522297
Grow stuff from seed and from cuttings. Learn to propagate. It's the whole fucking point.
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Haskaps are blooming. Last year I had a few fruits but I gave it all to my chickens because they love it.
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>>4522528
Those of you with ponds, how do you stop them from becoming mosquito tanks?
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>>4522660
Mosquitos will come as soon as you fill it with water. Add plants, be patient and within a few months the ecosystem in the pond will evolve until it no longer supports them.
Mosquitos are pinoeer species, they thrive in new bodies of water where no other animals can live.
Once backswimmers, dragonflies, water beetles, water striders, newts etc colonize a pond mosquitoes stop reproducing in it, because their larvae are defenseless against predation.
My pond has been full for four years and there are zero mosquito larvae in it thanks to its many predators.
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>>4522667
Plants are essential for a pond's ecosystem's progress because they absorb nutrients from the water and release oxygen in it, making it a favorable habitat for a large variety of animals.
Mosquito larvae get their oxygen from the surface, consume microorganism in the water and are extremely resistent to bacteria and disease, so they prefer to live in dirty, newly made ponds.
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>>4508567
>>4508577
Hey thanks for posting your alpine plants on /fit/, you inspired me to start a small garden/collection of native edibles and bog plants (they overlap).
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>>4522297
>...surely there is a cheaper way to do all if this?
People dump their garden waste in parks and vacant land all the time, plants take root and grow, and I've found plenty of good-sized ornamental bromeliads, Agaves, cactuses and the Dracaenas formerly known as Sansevierias in the park behind my house. I just pulled or levered them out and repotted them at home.
I didn't draw attention to myself, but if anybody asked me what I was doing I would just have said "These are foreign invasives" and stood there while they looked them up on their phone.
I would never poach native plants, btw.

>>4522379
>but these people are obviously growing in clay
What makes you think it is clay? Not all red soil is clay, and when he pulls that big one out it certainly doesn't look like clay.
Also, they're growing the succulents under cover, so they can control how much water they get.
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I've been sticking monstera roots back into the pot and now it's a solid block that keeps pushing itself out. It's already in the biggest giant pot I could order around here.
What's the next step?
Chop and prop? 2 years of growth gone.
Bottles filled with dirt? But it's not aesthetic.
Big pot just for the roots? Not aesthetic but maybe I could plant something in there and pretend it's actually multipurpose? But then monstera roots would just strangle everything in a few months.
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>>4523057
>I would never poach native plants, btw
Why not? If the plants are locally sourced "poaching them" does no harm.
The plants will still be part of the local natural community, exchanging pollen, pollinators and parasites with the others, but they will also get to set seed in parts of their original range they might have lost and enjoy protection from trampling, mowing and paving.
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>>4523163
I have a similar issue, but I use only leca balls. So I can remove some of the balls and bunch the roots up a bit tighter.
I've been thinking of using canvas bags as a pot, with a large tray filled with large rocks to gather the water and keep it from standing in the water.
You can then cut the bag open once full, do the tidying up and use a new bag.
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Anybody else growing Amorphophallus?
This is Amorphophallus konjac 'Leo Song', and it's just about to come into leaf. This is my favorite part of it's leaf stage because it reminds me if a featherduster worm. This is an offset of the mother tuber who is still recovering from flowering in mid April
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Here's a picture of the flower. I thought a squirrel died nearby and I went to find it and give it a proper burial. Imagine my shock when I found my konjac blooming at full mast. When the winds blow just right, you can smell it from a few hundred feet away.
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>>4523205
I have an A. konjac as well, but so far it's still underground. I think I kept it a bit too dry this winter, and the weather's been awful all year, but I checked the corm and it's still healthy with a little bud ready to go, so it's probably waiting for the weather to finally get better.

Mine's growing in a pot, though, as I'm in zone 8.
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>>4523222
From my experience, once it warms up outside, you can give it a little water, and that should spur it into new growth. Have you gotten any blooms from yours yet?
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>>4523230
No, but I've only had it for two years, and it was (probably still is) just a small corm of about 4 cm diameter. I've smelled A. titanum, though, so I have an idea of what to expect when it does eventually bloom. The daytime max temperature has been about 13 degrees for nearly three months now, and this week won't be any different. Supposedly next week we'll finally see a rise to 18-ish, but they've been predicting that rise for the past 6 weeks, so I'm not really getting my hopes up just yet.
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>>4508526
sup /an/
/n/erd here
so I moved into a place with pic related, yucca filamentosa aka adams needle.
I looked it up and it is a very ez care plant so that's good, but I want to encourage more blooming if possible. the online info says to trim the stalk after the flowers die but some info said it doesn't really matter if I do or not.
my questions:
if I trim it soon, will it bloom again this year?
do I trim the stalk or the branches? how far down in either case?
if it won't bloom again this year anyway and I DON'T trim it, will it bloom the best it's going to bloom next year anyway (i.e. is there no bad outcome to doing absolutely nothing)?
it sent out a bunch of baby plants that I'd like to transplant into the garden, I figured I'd do it during the winter. any specific advice? it says don't plant them any deeper than the level they are now is all I could find out
thanks and if you have bike questions I can answer/link best info
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>>4522519
>>4508954

If you want fish for whatever reason, there are plenty of options that won't shit up the pond and destroy the plants like goldfish will. Medaka/Japanese ricefish are a great choice. They're small, produce very little waste, are both cold- and heat- tolerant, and do best when kept outdoors. The only problem is that getting them for reasonable prices in the U.S. is somewhat difficult. There's also the option of using small native fish like shiners, mudminnows, Gambusia, etc. Those come with the plus of being very easy to source as long as you don't mind breaking a couple laws re: native wildlife collection.
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I have a rattlesnake plant that is having a hard time in my apartment. It was fine in the winter time(indoors obviously) but now that spring and summer is here, I am noticing a lot of yellowing at the tips. Maybe its my fault? I am not really sure how much water to give or even sunlight. I hear these plants actually don't like direct sunlight so I bought some shades(I only have one window in my studio apartment). Please help. Pic is not my plant but an example. I really don't want it to die. Its the only living thing in my apartment besides me. Should I be watering it until I see water appear in the little dish below it? Its in a ceramic pot right now. Its weird because all winter it was fine and even growing new leaves. Now that spring is here, its seemingly getting worse.
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>>4523557
Yellowing/drying of the tips could mean overwatering.
Only water when the top couple of inches of soil become dry.
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>>4523566
By top couple inches, what exactly do you mean? I ask because I stick like the tip of my finger in and it feels dry but if I do press a bit further it does feel damp but not wet.
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>>4523557
I give mine distilled water, apparently tap water in some areas is rough on them. Mine is putting out a bunch of new growth. They also like humidity, I move it into the bathroom when I take a shower and leave it there for a few hours.
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>>4523573
>what exactly do you mean?
I mean the top couple of inches of soil, so more like your whole finger instead of just the tip.
Also, feel the weight of the pot after watering, compared with when it's dry, and learn the difference between the two, that's another way of telling if a plant needs watering.
Unglazed ceramic pots are good because the sides of the pot itself will feel clammy if the rootball is wet.
If you keep the pot on a small drip tray, there will be condensation there on the tray if the rootball is wet.
Just little things like that can help you decide when to water, and when to leave alone.
In general, most plants will recover better from a dry spell than they will from being waterlogged, so if in doubt, just wait another day or few.
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I've been looking after a small basil plant. It's been growing well enough but I've been a lot of small fruit flies around it and coming out of the dirt. Any way to get rid of them without some pesticide or some crap that'll harm my little house plant?
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>>4523634
Sounds like fungus gnats, which are most often a symptom of overwatering.
Reduce the frequency of waterings, and consider repotting in fresh compost.
The gnats themselves are harmless to the plant.
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So im the anon from a few threads ago who was growing the rootstock out from under a lemon tree whose scion died in the winter, and its honestly had great regrowth but when i checked it earlier today, i noticed these white lines that are hard to the touch forming on the stems near the base

Is it a disease? :(
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>>4523791
That's just the young stems becoming woody.
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>>4523868
thanks for the reassurance, i'm glad its just a natural part of its growth
when I tried growing morning glories they did very well until they became diseased and shriveled up so I was worried
I think these dark patches near the 'armpits' of the branches on my chili plant are ok too right? Like that's just a thing they do?
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>>4524270
its blight, i'm sorry for your loss
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Gardening noob here, I started my first planter last week with some tomatoes and a random pothos cutting both of witch seem to be doing well, but recently I've noticed these little sprouts coming up around the edges of the planter and I don't know what they are. I'm guessing there must have been some seeds or something in the soil I bought, does anyone know what these are?
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>>4524284
They are a weed, grasp it firmly, remove from the soil and toss into your nutrient reclamation bucket where the other weeds stew to become liquid fertilizer
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>>4524295
What kind of weed is it? As far as I'm aware there aren't any that look like that in my area.
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>>4524284
Could be a cucurbit. More likely just a weed
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I finally jumped the gun and took the course that allows me to use professional grade pesticides in europistan.
It's a bunch of bureaucratic bs, I know very little more than before but at least now I have the magic piece of paper that they want, just a joke to get 200€ from you
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>>4524362
Oh, ok. I think I'll let it grow a bit more to see if it's anything neat before pulling them up.
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>>4524278
no its not, blight is when there is a complete black ring around the stem or black spots on the leaves or fruit itself
black spots on the joints between stems is just something they do
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Is it true that foliage fertilizer effect only lasts for 3 days?

If true can i dope the shit out my coleus and basil seedlings (they're currently in plastic cups) like spray them every 3 days to gain time?
Will that be harmful?
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>>4524270
The dark patches are normal colouration on chilli plants.
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fuck adeniums
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>>4524907
Fuck you.
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>>4524907
But I like my adenums.
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>>4524907
Fug u
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>>4525564
yeah well i hate ur adeniums
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>>4524907
>order seed 3 times
>never get any germination
>they all just rot
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Hi /plant/, about to buy a house and I want to put in a hedge to give my yard a better boundary from the road. Could I make one out of witch hazel? Seems like it would look pretty cool. Also what should I do with the ~1 acre of lawn I have to make it less boring.
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>>4526363
Witch hazel is not a suitable hedging plant as far as I know, it's grown as a specimen tree for it's fragrant winter flowers.
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>>4524735
Or almost any kind of pepper for that matter.
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>>4526090
How do you fuck up adenium germination?
It takes like 3 days at good temperature bro.
Waht the fuck bro.
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>>4526521
Idk
I just use the standard set up I use for cacti or mesembs and it doesn't work
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>>4526521
because adenium are cunts
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Why do trees do this? isn't it a bit silly for them to start sprouting from the base when the branches are lush with leaves
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>>4526836
redundancy is good when it comes to energy and sustenance
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>>4526836
>Why do trees do this?
In case they get whacked and cracked in two they can regrow quickly thanks to an existing massive root system.
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>>4526836
It's called epicormic growth/shoots. Most plants have little buds under the surface of the stem/bark that will sprout like that in response to hormonal changes. It's basically what >>4527014 said. If the wind snaps the main tree branch the root system can dump all it's nutrients into that little shoot instead of having to form a whole new one from the ground up.
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>>4527055
>main tree branch
>Branch
*Trunk

I really need to proofread my shit. Here's my cactus flowering.
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>>4526502
Upon further research it does seem a bit sparsely growing for what I wanted, but I now want to put in a ten foot wide hedgerow so might mix them in with american hazelnuts and smaller native shrubs etc. Might get some mountain laurel too, need to see if it grows well in my area.
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>>4521517
>like some sort of brain damaged ape.
That is exactly what you are actually. You are a horticultural nigger.
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>>4526363
>Also what should I do with the ~1 acre of lawn I have to make it less boring.
Vegetable beds or a wildflower garden. If you're more ambitious you could do something with water.

My cactus seedlings are coming along real nice, bros.
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>>4526836
Looking at the environment around it the trunk probably gets ample sunlight so the tree is just like why not? They're opportunistic. The whole reason trees get tall in the first place is to get above the riff raff for that sweet sweet sunshine.
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>>4526363
>Also what should I do with the ~1 acre of lawn I have to make it less boring.
Clover or other (native) wild flower meadow.
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>>4527644
Already planning on it! White clover at least. I need to find out what flowers are native to my state. thanks anon.
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>>4527640
very nice

i have succ seedlings right now, first time growing from seed, and they're definitely alive, but i don't have a clue where i should go from here, how long do i keep them covered for, how often i'm supposed to water

i've started them just about two months ago and so far have been just kinda winging it on an incredibly inconsistent watering schedule

so far i have taken three seedlings out from cover a few days ago to see how they do in a drier environment and they seem alright, but it definitely seems like i have to water them every day from the lack of humidity

is that the better option? or do i leave them covered for longer?
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>>4527743
Succulents need water like once a month, im not joking its very hard to under-water them
...on the other hand if you mist them every day for just 15 seconds and its not 40C outside they could drown
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>>4526522
Adenium are literal jungle plants that survived desertification, not desert plants. Germinate (and grow) accordingly.
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Any idea what this plant is, bros?
Popped up last year in the fall and grew about 1ft and then froze.
It came back this spring and is already like 2.5, maybe 3 feet tall. Just growing straight up and making these huge leaves. The have this sort of reddish coloring right at the base of the leaves.
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>>4527841
all of this is indeed very true, as i have been growing succulents for a while now, it's just my first time doing it from seed and i have found it somewhat difficult to find the specific information i was looking for

i think at the end of the day, i'll keep just doing whatever the hell seems appropriate, make mistakes, and learn

also good luck on those cacti anon!
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>>4527652
Checkout Cosmos, Goldenrod, Asters, Butterflyweed, Yarrow. The best wildflower meadows have blooms all season so try to make sure you get a nice mix to cover the whole growing season.
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I bought a wisteria from Tescos in a frame like pic related.
If I hard prune this back to the main stems will it re grow so I can train it up a wire?
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>>4527915
Looks maybe like a Linden tree.
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>>4528067
Most of that should still be bendy enough to retrain, no need to hard prune it.
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>>4527863
fuck them
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>>4526836
Maybe he's just happy to see you
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>>4527915
Another photo, if it helps. Near the top, the stalk sort of has edges to it, but down at the base it's round and woody.
Has white spots on the stalk as well.
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>posts
>refuses to elaborate
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>>4529128
Upload that first pic of the leaf to plant.id or plantnet identify or something and post results.
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Are kalanchoes fast growing?
I swiped a couple of those plantlet things from a dying plant in some office. They look rough, but I'm betting on it's weediness to kick in now that it's in decent conditions.
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>>4529377
Says Eastern Cottonwood.
Don't really need a huge tree int hat spot, I guess I gotta find somewhere else to put it.
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>>4530152
Which species?
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>>4530200
Just a basic daigremontiana I guess. Always wanted one.



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