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Manmade Horrors Beyond my Acquisiton Edition

Previous >>4460268

Discus anything aquarium related here, including inhabitants, decor, and issues. Before asking questions in this thread, make sure you give us at least some details when asking a question, such as:

>Tank size (include dimensions, not just volume)
>Unusual Parameters (nitrate, pH, GH, KH)
>Any inhabitants + how long you've had them
>Age of the tank
>Pictures are always helpful

Tank Cycling:
>www.modestfish.com/how-to-cycle-your-aquarium/

Stocking and Water Change Calculator:
>www.aqadvisor.com/AqAdvisor.php
>www.hamzasreef.com/Contents/Calculators/EffectiveWaterChange.php

Articles and Care Guides:
>www.seriouslyfish.com/knowledge-base/
>www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/
>www.theaquariumwiki.com/wiki/

Aquatic Plant Database:
>www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forumapc/plantfinder/all.php
>www.flowgrow.de/db/aquaticplants

Saltwater:
>brs 5 minute guides
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlUv9SRB_g8 [Embed]
>https://reefbuilders.com/reef-tank-setup/

>Thread question
You got access to an university biology department for a few years. What would you create with science?
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>>4463987
>>4464321
6/?

Planted them.
Miiiiiight have overbought a plant or three, there are some tight squeezes in here. On the other hand none of them floated up.
About the moss, should I just leave it to grow on the square mesh, or cut it out and superglue it on the rock?

I intend on getting Snow Whites and Green Neons in a couple of weeks to allow the plants to root a bit first. I'll also cut the lid of my Fluval Flex 34L to fit the Chihiros light (I may still keep the shitty standard light just for its blue mode at night), but I don't think I need the strong light immediately while the plants are still adapting. CO2 is still pressurizing and will be up in a bit.
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>no title or /aqg/ in the OP
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>>4465804
Ah crap, I knew I was forgetting something.
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>>4465757
Bruh, you christianed a thread with no subject.
Somehow I sensed impending boofery last night but I wasn't gon make the thread after culling shrimp and snipping plants for four hours.
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>>4465817
Nobody was making a new thread and the last one was way past the bump limit. Can't delete this thread anymore so it is either use it or make another one and let it die but them people will bump this thread for a reason or another and we will end up divided.
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Any banana plant growers in here? I bought one and I'm curious to see how they grow/propagate. My plants haven't grown any new "bananas" but I just saw this new shoot come up.

Will the current ones fill out at all? Will this new shoot create a whole new plant with its own bananas?
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>>4465857
Forgot the pic
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>>4465857
>>4465860
That's just the roots, banana's propagate though their leaves.
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is this the real thread?
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>>4465884
How Can Threads be Real if (you) isn't Real?
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Almost 3 months into my planted shrimp tank, what do you guys think :')
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>when hooman buys you Beyond Meat pellets
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>>4465874
I've... been cutting off every lily pad stem down to the base after their pads melted.

How badly have I fucked up? Is there any way to incite propagation?
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>>4465929
y-you too!
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>>4465804
OP forgot the discord link aswell

anyone got the link?
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>>4465994
i wish i can afford a koi pond
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Uh?
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>>4466123
snägg :-DDDD
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After watching my threadfin rainbowfish eat, I can say that they are 100% shrimp safe. Their mouths are so tiny that I doubt even young fry would fit in there.
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>>4466152
i saw them for the first time in my lfs literally 2 days ago
interesting looking fellas
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>>4466163
They are cool. They reflect light in a very interesting way (rainbowfish duh). There was only one avaliable at the store, so I bought him. He's shoaling with the CPDs in my tank right now, I ought to get a few more rainbows to make him more comfy.
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>>4465981
Could use some hardscape and a trim
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>>4466124
They're lucky. In with the shrimp shipped the sized of atoms.
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only 79 days until I can move into my new apartment and set up a new aquarium
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>>4466272
What kind of aquarium do you want to set up?
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>>4466286
shrimps because I never had them and they look cool
probably some small schooling fish as well
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>>4466120
Koi ponds are a waste anyway, a fishless pond is just as interesting once the dragonflies and frogs arrive.
it's also cheaper because it doesn't need a filtration system or a large volume of water.
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>>4465742
Love these glowie boys like you wouldn't believe.
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>>4466304
That one is not available for buying
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/350603845_Generation_of_Transgenic_Medaka_Oryzias_curvinotus_Nichols_Pope_1927_Carrying_a_Cyan_Fluorescent_Protein_Gene_Driven_by_Alpha_Actin_Promoter
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>>4466346
I can't buy dwarf anchor or banjo catfish, doesn't mean I don't love them.
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>>4466368
Why can't you buy them?

And for that matter, why do you love them? Banjo catfish are the next closest "pet" to a moss ball.
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>>4466298
What'd you use for this?
It's awesome. So I wanna make one and ignore your advice and chuck ricefish in.
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>>4466287
Kek, I know there's at least one boomer anon that's gon seethe when he sees this.
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>>4466298
Fishless ponds are havens for mosquito larvae.
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>found random ~penny diameter spider in my fishroom
>scooped him into a specimen tub and dumped him into the goldfish tank
>he tried to jesus walk away but goldfish instantly found and gobbled his ass
keeping fish has made me hate bugs significantly less, i now view them as free live feeders delivering themselves to my home
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>>4466406
An established pond can have lots of predators for them. Backswimmers, water beetles, water striders, dragon/damselfly nymphs, newts and their larvae. Spiders will also build nets in the plants that reach out of the water and eat tons of mosquitoes. You could also install a pump to get some waterflow on the surface, which they hate.
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Am I an asshole for keeping a crawdad in a 10 gallon aquarium with a Betta? They seem to be getting along fine but I am sure one day I will find half a Betta. I am mainly concerned about the crawdad in a 10 gallon.
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Is a tank like this a good idea?
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>>4466455
if those are crayfish you're gonna need a whole lot more hides. you can stack clay tubes for easy hiding spots
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>>4466457
they are and good idea! should I plant it up or just moss balls? I'm thinking mexican dwarf crayfish
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My tank used to be fertile as fuck, there would be a pregnant shrimp at least once a month, the guppies would be breed like crazy which if it got out of control i used to feed my turtle sometimes
Now it's kinda stagnating, wonder what happened
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>>4466458
dwarf crays tend to be more manageable with plants, but there's never a guarantee that they won't start eating them, especially if you want to keep several of them. you could try it with some cheap plants and see how it goes.
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>>4466382
Not legally allowed in the country, not popular enough for the black market. I'm a sucker for any micro fish, so the dwarf anchors are a given, and the banjo is endearing in it's ugliness. Like a toad.
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>>4466473
Oh shit that thing looks rad as fuck. Gonna pick one of those up one day just for you, anon. Glad you've showed me it.
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>>4466435
>bugs and that stuff under my house housing
So like I said, ricefish.
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>>4466481
hose housing*

Shrimp can fill the bug niche.

I'll go down to the lake for the regular stuff.
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>>4466475
Thanks man. Call him Lonnie.
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>>4466475
Be warned, the other anon isn't wrong. If only seeing peeks of kuhlis annoys you, try a fish you see move maybe once a month.
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>>4466486
I see my kuhlis all the time though. But yeah that's fine.

>>4466484
Will do, boss.
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>>4466481
>>4466482
Eh, I'm trolling a bit desu. Just got annoyed that I went to look up biotope autism and 90% of the based on a site I totally visited ones have a 1/1e+33 chance of spawning in a given seed.
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>>4466487
I do as well, but that doesn't seem to be the norm from what I gather.
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>>4466489
My secret is that I made most of their hidey holes against the aquarium glass so even when they think they're hiding they're not.
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>>4466486
Mine does this kek. After a year he's upgraded to moving once a week. Its fun to watch them jet propulse with their gills though when they are trying to get somewhere(they can't really swim)
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>>4466238
Retarded question but, is trimming plants necessary? And if so, why? I feel like I fuck up the tank every time I do something to it
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>>4466544
Not trimming your plants isn't going to kill your fish but it will make your tank look like shit. There's loads of videos on YouTube about it. Green aqua has some good ones.
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Glad this guys started hanging around the others now. Very cute.
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New 20g saltwater up and running, needs more rock still
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>>4466564
Fucking stupid site
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>>4466565
Cairn looks nice.
What are the UFOs for? Providing funky wavelengths to the polyps on there like little nurseries?
Sorry for the ignorance. Don't do salt and don't plan on it, so no point snoring through heavy stuff I'll just forget.
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>>4466574
The red and green things? Those are frag racks, just hold coral frags, they are that colour cause fluro looks cool rather than just plain black ones
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>>4466405
why do boomers hate shrimp and schooling fish?
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>>4466565
>>4466564
You can’t hide from me Australian. Now stop playing with your own piss.
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>>4466637
How did you know I was Australian?
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Anons…what the fuck kind of light do I buy for this meme tank? It’s 45g btw and rather tall.
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>>4466639
upside down posting.
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i have a snail invasion in my shrimp tank anons
i was going to set up another tank soon for yellow neos, is there a shrimp friendly fish that eats snails? loach of some kind? thanks
ill stop feeding as much, i just want more shrimp
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>>4466680
assassin snails can eat shrimp but are mostly safe.
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>>4466690
he... enjoys to suck?
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Kuhli loaches and Xichlids? Compatible, will it hurt crack noodle length of his body?
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>>4465742
>>4466750
>>4466749
Hi all
I posted asking advice in the older thread
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>>4466626
If you can't use it as a frisbee, its not boomer approved.
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>>4466767
Or a nerf football.
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>>4466735
My rams and kuhlis gel for the most part.
It was my anabantoid that went ape and left a couple with some gnarly scars. Pretty sure the amelanistic one that couldn't see very well is dead.
:(
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>>4466735
Depends on the cichligger breed, generally the small ones will be fine and the big ones will murder and/or eat kuhlis, but that's pretty standard of big + small fish. Kuhlis are pretty good at avoiding other fish and don't share silhouette or coloration with many actively aggressive fish their size, if that helps?
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>>4466752
Honestly that's a good stocking level, but shrimp have a very small bioload so feel free to toss in half a dozen. I'd be reluctant to recommend fish however.

Could also get an airstone for the hillstreams, they love that stuff.
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>>4466565
Iv got this double chamber reactor that I was gonna use on my new tank but can't decide what I should put in there? Gfo? Bio pellets? Or should I stick a light on it and make it into a hang on back refugium? And what strength flow should I have going through it? It currently has a 600 lph powerhead attached but I might attach a weaker one
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Thanks, will add some shrimps soon , Forgot to mention also i got one small sumatra in there , its an old fish from a tank i don't use anymore i just rehoused it here because i didn't know what to do with him, is it gonna eat my shrimp? Its about an inch long and semi aggresive
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>>4466816
You can take your chances, but you best not get attached to these shrimp. Tiger barbs are notorious bullies, and I don't think your tank has enough cover for the shrimp if the barb decides it's hunting season.
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Why are these so popular? It's just a sponge/air block combo?
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>>4466854
Because they are simple, reliable and cheap
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>>4466797
Any idea how much to feed them ? The shop guy said the corys need to eat 2-3 times a day, i feed them pellets and they also eat the flakes i feed the other fish
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>>4466640
Pendant light, like a Kessil. There are Chinesium alternatives if you do not want to spend a lot.
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>>4466403
>What'd you use for this?
It's one of those concrete rings they use to make wells.
>So I wanna make one and ignore your advice and chuck ricefish in
Ricefish are fine for a pond like this but if you put goldfish or koi in it they will turn it into a toilet in a matter of weeks.

>>4466406
I made mine almost five years ago and mosquitos completely avoid it. It's impossible for them to touch the water when backswimmers constantly monitor the surface and catch anything that touches it. You can see them in the open part here >>4466298
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>>4466897
I can't fucking figure them out. Thought I had it nailed down, so I made up little tins of 1.7 grams I feed once or twice a day, and now they act like they're starving despite not losing weight (fatter if anything) and not spawning as much. That might be the weather, which has been odd for the area. They can stash food to complicate things further.
They may be mostly still growing without me seeing it much and need lots of calories for plates.
Yada yada blah blah.
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>>4466959
Honestly, I kinda feel like they get used to the amount and get spoiled. They always act super grateful for an increase for a couple days, then it's not enough.
Probably time for a day fast to reset, but I've heard cories don't do fasting well. But these guys were in a cardboard box for 48+ hours, so who knows.
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>>4466959
Oh, and there's always shrimplets in there. Shit, the sterbai spend most of there free time hunting them down. Moss removal is always a massacre.
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>>4466854
No air stone, but you can add one and I do. The two tanks without still do fine. Throw a bottle with k1 micro on top for fluidized bed meme points.
I'm in love with them. I would not have 15 tanks if they didn't exist.
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>>4466690
That yours? Did my shitty OP inspire you?
Beautiful. Hope you are aware of their issues.
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>>4466690
Nvm, mistook based lemon pleco for golden Chinese algae eater.
(I get that right?)
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>>4466964
So would you reccommend against adding shrimps to>>4466752
?
I really want to add a dozen
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>>4466959
>>4466964
The store said 2-3 times a day , a pinch of vegeterian flakes and some fish-meal mix pellets , i think thats a bit much
Hhow many dorys have you got? And do you have anything else in there other then shrimps?
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>>4467009
Flakes are garbage for anything but grinding into fry food or to mix with medication. Floating pellets or slow sinking are almost always better nutrition and more readily taken by fish.

Also get some snails and use their population to tell how much you need to feed - when you see a lot of new snails, cut feeding until population flattens out. Once a day is plenty for anything but fry in a low-plant tank, and similarly adult fish won't be harmed by missing a day or two here and there.
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>>4467009
You're a mammal and would die in like 3 hours without food if you were their size, fish are not and would not. Fish know this and will abuse it by acting like they're starving when they're really in the pink of health.

The flip side however is that overfeeding doesn't harm much as long as they're actually eating instead of letting food rot away at the bottom, and you're fastidious in cleaning up their shit weekly.
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>he cleans the fish shit
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Hi scudchuds, I've been really enjoying having regani dwarf pike chimplids as of late. My lfs is getting them in more and now I have 3 as of today. I like them because they are super peaceful for a chimplid and are pretty.
Anyway I just got the healthiest female I could find at the lfs (still quite skinny) so my big male could get a gf and make babies. When I put her in he got all excited and did weird little flarings and head twitchy dances around her, and after a bit I think he realized she wasn't in any state to breed so he went full incel and got territorial, chasing and nipping and such. So I moved her to another tank to get her nice and fat so I can reintroduce her when she's ready to breed.

Do any anons have any knowlege on pairing up cichlids?
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>>4467004
Nah, full grown shrimp will be fine. With hiding spots shrimplets will be fine.
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>>4467004
>>4467244
Not just full grown, btw, juveniles and up are safe. Only the shrimplets, like 3mm max, are at risk, I think.
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>>4467022
My snails are almost fully demographically replaced by shrimp now. And if they say anything I just call them antishrempites. Feels good, man.
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>>4467231
The same thing might happen until you bite the bullet and make the male sit his ass on the curb for a while so the female can get comfy in the home tank.
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>>4466684
That is a very pretty cherry. Better than painted SS grade or whatever, imo.
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>>4467260
I'll move him if it doesn't work out again after she gets healthy. He seemed very interested in her, and was chasing away the African cichlids while she was in there, so I think it might work once she can fend for herself. It would be awesome to breed them so I hope they work out
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>>4467267
I hope so too. Decent chance it will.
My blue ram male is a big fat alpha (name) Chad and he just got too horny for the female out of the blue (heh).
I couldn't stop her getting rape pestered off of food until I put him in another tank for a few days. Let him take the transition stress instead of waiting bored like a trap ready to spring.
There's always a chance the female will get stressed from the aggressive advances and "clam up" as well, even getting egg bound.
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>>4467281
>>4467267
But I understand avoiding moving the pretty and badass male you are attached to. That was exactly my situation.
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I want a pet California Roach (Hesperoleucus symmetricus).
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>>4467285
Then I want to cross that with a Hardhead (Mylopharodon conocephalus) to get a small yet hardier Fish.
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>>4467281
>>4467283
>There's always a chance the female will get stressed from the aggressive advances and "clam up" as well, even getting egg bound.
I fucking hate that chimplids are like that. Speaking of eggbound, I have an extremely fat krib that I think is a female with eggs. I realized it very late and am worried about that happening. I have been on the lookout for a new shipment of kribs to come into my lfs but still no sign so far. She seems healthy so I think she can wait.
>But I understand avoiding moving the pretty and badass male you are attached to. That was exactly my situation.
you got me to the dime lol, I like that one and and don''t wanna risk anything with him. I tried moving him once and he and the krib were squaring off instantly so I gave that up. I bet they could coexist in that 75 though anyways
>>4467285
Go for it, American cyprinids are actual retards and will be sucking your fingers within a day of being caught. I used to hate them but after keeping them I learned to like them a lot. They are tough fish and really diverse. I like dace a lot.
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>>4467296
Tank or Fish Farm? Tank may be impractical for keeping with Hardheads.
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>>4467298
Dig a pond. Then you can put whatever you catch in it (except for gamefish so you don't get v& by the wardens). I did an 18 by 8ft, 4 ft deep pond and it worked for me. I miss those fish tho because It's still winter and they are sleeping. Cool thing is you can still see em come out from under the ice sometimes
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Put a new filter on my tank and thought everyone was sulking because the flow was higher.
Checked in on them today, and noticed one of the heaters popped it's seam and was filled with water.

Remember to check those fucking heaters so everything you love doesn't die.
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Yeah, probably diet time.
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>>4467311
jeez I need to get an inkbird so I dont have this happen lol. Is everyone okay?
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>>4467308
Oh I live in Britain. Luckily for me California Roaches and Hardheads are considered "Trashfish" in California but as I say, one man's rubbish is another man's treasure.
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>>4467313
Today I had one of my new fatass cories laying on his side in a crevice between the glass and a rock while hyperventilating. I was pissed I was losing another fish so I sighed and went to move him to a place he could die gracefully, but when I moved the rock, he wiggled out and sat down like nothing had happened.
Cories are something else man
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>>4467321
That sounds like an water oxygenation problem.
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>>4467315
I do have an inkbird, the heater must have died as soon as it was flooded because nothing died.
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>>4467317
aren't there minnows in bogland you can catch? I live in a very similar part of the east coast. I recommend you go catch some sticklebacks. I know you guys have em too and they are super fun nano fish. Just watch out with their aggression.
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>>4467323
I think he was actually stuck, he's got some scratches on his sides from struggling to get out. He is a really fat venezuelan cory. I have a powerhead and a hob filter pouring in there so I doubt oxygen is an issue
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>>4467296
I actually worry about Dot, female here. Chad paired with the other female right before she got killed by my gourami. So I think things are probably a bit weird.
>put on the fucking wig :'(

She also may be infertile now, as she was always large and use to be more colorful. I think she was juiced.

Losing tiny lil Bloop was the worst. Absolute worst.
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>>4467328
As an Autist with OCD two species have to be discovered by the same man or men and in the same year, the two species were both discovered in 1854 by Baird and Girard thus successfully qualify on my list for hybridisation, we only have Common Minnows so I think I will have to broaden my limited horizons.
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Why are these this expensive again? They are baitfish in America.
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>>4467340
what's your endgame with hybridizing minnows again?
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>>4467341
I've been meaning to research and possibly expedition for some for this reason. Not really an easy coast thing from what I can tell, not at my bait shops.
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>>4467331
You're very lucky, I had a Goldfish (Fancy of course) that died getting stuck in a Whale Ornament, must've had a heart attack. Was most distressing. His name was Bowlingball. But your Cory needs to lose weight.
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>>4467345
Hardy yet Fully Domesticated Minnow for Fish Beginners.
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Jungle val is so cool I won't tell anyone I can't remember the full name.
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>>4467349
I got him like that, he was a turn in
>>4467359
I like mine too, how can I get it to spread more?
>>4467352
aren't there already rosy red fatheads?
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>>4467366
Smaller ornaments then is my only recommendation then. They do love their substrates but the last thing you want is a corpse wedged between a rock and a hard place.
>>4467366
Hardhead genes will impart the ability to eat harder foodstuffs. Will be small like the California Roach but can easily crush food, basically a new and improved version.
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>>4467370
my cories are all in a huge 75g with five inch fish. I fixed the rock by moving it a little
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>>4467374
Centre of tank is best. I hate to tell you what to do but I am an expert in Fish mortality sadly (My third Goldfish as a child outlived all the ones I later got).
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>>4467377
I bet I've killed more fish than you
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>>4467380
My ones died in particularly inauspicious ways. From getting stuck inside an ornament to getting poisoned by chemically treated log from disreputable shop now closed who said it was chemical free before my mother bought it.
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>>4467386
that's why you get logs from outside
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Mudcrabs anon here. I figured it might be old tank syndrome so I went ahead and did 15% Water change daily.

Good news is Nitrate level has gone down from 40+ PPM to 15+ PPM.

Bad news is I lost 20 crabs in the process.
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>>4467393
Indeed. I learned this the hard way. Forget fancy and colourful, as long as they live long and prosper it suits me.
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>>4467400
I like all fishy
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>>4467417
Me too but I am terribly Prussian about the art of Fishkeeping. An efficient worker must have an efficient Fish.
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>>4467399
Sorry about your crabs mate, but on the bright side it gives you a chance to fine tune the system and to get out there and catch some more.
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>water smells like sewage when taken out of tank
>not using a filter, only gorillions of plants and a heater

Is this normal? The fish look fine (as in they're just moving around leisurely, grazing, and otherwise don't look stressed or diseased)
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>>4467442
Yeah already planning to go out and fish some more this this weekend, also tweaked my pipelines so I can flush out the wastes in the crab boxes straight into a bucket instead of the filter again.

Going to use that wastewater as fertilizers too, after some treatment.
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>>4467445
If it smells like shit, might be ammonia spike or something. It shouldn’t be smelling bad.
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I’ve got my swordtails going for some hot breeding action. 2 male and 2 females ones with white spots and green tails. And 2 male and 2 female ones that are orange and white males and the females are orange and black. Will they interbreed? I hope. They’re in a 30g planted tank and things look pretty promising.
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>>4467537
>2 males in a 30
keep an eye out my friend, there is a significant probability one of them will be losing his sword. I have one pussy ass bitch swordtail who has had his ass kicked out of three tanks over the last year, two of them were him getting his ass beaten by a fucking platy.

I have him in with a goldfish and some zebra danios now and his tailfin is slowly growing back, again. I'm honestly impressed he has survived so many repeated ass kickings. I also don't know why the other platys/swordtails hate him so much. I have like a dozen males in those tanks and none of them ever get more than a tiny nip and he has lost basically his entire tail fin 3 times now.
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>>4467366
I genuinely don't know why it started taking off. Put it near but not in the poopy filter intake corner? That's where it really seemed to take off. Maybe light from the adjacent tank helped.
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>>4466752
Took a video with my gf's phone
What do yall think?
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>>4467611
I want to add snails and shrimp its so tempting to just dump a dozen of each inside
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>>4467611
very nice anon :)
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>>4467529
Water paramaters all look fine. 0 nitrates nitrites, 0 ammonia.
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>>4467615
Thank you :DDD
its my first rig other then a shitty 10 L box i had a two ago
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>>4467611
Why's the cory in the back spazzing so hard?
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>>4467665
If there's flow there like a spray bar, disregard.
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Took me about 12 months to run out of CO2 in my 5kg bottle with a blatant disregard for scrounging every last bubble, i.e 'cleaning' the diffuser by whacking it to 30psi and letting it drop down to about 8-9psi that it otherwise sits at happily 24/7 for both a 70L and 150L tank.
I'd imagine that could easily double to 24 months with a timed solenoid and the occasional cleaning of the diffusers. 25ft of silicone tubing probably hasn't helped.

Anyone running DIY CO2 able to chime in on their usage with their chosen reactors?
Tank size, planting density, 1 unit of x + 1 unit of y would last me x timeframe. Might switch over to a calcium reactor in the future and wouldn't mind fuggin around with the DIY methods for funsies and backups.
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>>4467625
Hydrogen sulphide production is possible, especially if your substrate is soil. Our snozz's are able to detect 0.003-0.006ppm quite reliably.
Can be stanky while your whole tanks finishes burning through excess nutrients and more desirable bacteria slowly take over.

If it just smells like shit, do more frequent gravel siphons if you're not Walstad'ing, slow down on dry feeding otherwise. I recently pulled out a rather large root system in my larger 1.5y/o tank and disturbed a lot of the soil substrate. Heavy sand cap was holding in a lot of stank, boy howdy.
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>>4465742
how long do ich survive without water. I had super ich that killed off an entire tank of goldfish 17 years ago.
also any signs to look out for stress in angelfish and suckerfish (plecos?)
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>>4467671
Yup, that sounds like it. I only have cherry shrimp in there and they have too much cleanup to deal with. Good to know that it's not something lethal or wrong. Thanks anon!
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>>4467669
I've been running DIY sugar gelatin + yeast for about a month now. I added a second bottle a couple weeks ago, so now I've got 2 2 litres + bubble counter bottle. All going into a 20 gallon long with a bunch of ambulia, some water sprite and a bit of monte carlo that my kuhlis keep burrowing under and fucking up.

1 cup sugar to 1 cup water (250g) in a .25oz/1tbsp gelatin powder mix, then a teaspoon of sugar + a litre of water to .5tsp (2g) yeast poured shaken together and poured in atop the gelatin sugar mixture once its set.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtpfltN15-8
Basically this guy's setup but I have two reactor bottles for ease of changing. I'll let you know how efficient it runs. So far it's given me a ton of plant growth even with cheapo lights. Haven't replaced a bottle yet. I'll let you know how well it works in the longrun but no complaints for now, outputting steady CO2 with no real decrease in output thanks to the gelatin. Haven't run the numbers but probably gonna cost a couple bucks a month to keep going at this rate. Price breakdown is about 7 bucks for 10 pounds of sugar near me, which is 40 cups so 40 bottles, $1 per ounce of yeast (28 grams, so 14 bottles), and $3 per 4-envelope box of gelatin which is by far the most expensive element. Should get a little over a month out of these, we'll see how well that holds. Probably a cheaper source of gelatin out there in bulk somewhere. 19 bucks for a year's worth of CO2 generation sounds pretty good though if it all pans out.
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>>4467688
Many thanks, anon, I had only stumbled upon citric and yeast in my short hunt.
I've got shitloads of yeast nutrients from my brewing endeavors. Are you just using plain old bakers yeast? I only ask because some of the strains out there, such as the Turbo Yeast that's frowned upon because it makes ethanol that tastes like ass, is quite happy to suck up every last gram of sugar despite ethanol contents at up to 15-20%.I've also tested the borders of bakers yeast and found that starving them of nitrogen was not bueno for aromatics (hydrogen disulphide). "Birdwatchers sugar wash" may be of interest to you if you ever want to toy around with extending the lifespan.
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My oldest bladder snail, Chonks Calcium-yum, appears to have passed away today.
I went to flip him over as it looked like they weren't interested in righting themself 2 hours later, only to find that my fingers were now stinky of dead snail juice.
RIP, 02/22 - 03/23.
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>>4467707
My oldest Ramshorn died a few months ago, I was surprised at how sad I felt.
RIP snails.
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Stocking question for a beginner here:

I have a Fluval Flex 9 gallon. I know the filter compartment at the back is about 1.5 or so gallons, leaving a bit over 7 living area. Most things I've heard is that it's an ok starter tank, and I like the looks of it, but the flow is a bit high for bigger finned fish like Bettas, which means all the guppy types I like are also out. My next idea was a pair, male and female, of Florida flagfish, as I like the idea of an American native fish, that can live in a wide range of conditions, are supposedly easy breeders, omnivores that also eat algae. Damn fish are kinda bland, but I actually like how they look. Would a pair fit ok? The living area is roughly 14"l x 10"w x 13"t. Fish are roughly 2.5" fully grown. If not, what do you guys think would be good stocking options? I like the idea of a species only tank, but don't just want one fish moseying around, while keeping at least somewhat understocked. No snails or shrimp. Snails piss me right off and shrimp just don't compare when I've already got a cray tank. Y'all help me out and I'll try to take pics as I get everything set up.
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>>4467740
TL;DR - look at DIY solutions to damping the pumps output flow - gluing foam or filter floss to the output id a decent stopgap. 'reducing HOB filter flow' would be a great place to start.
Small tanks with a finite filter space to biologically filter are ripe for stuffing more/higher PPI foam into them and would be a good rabbit hole to fall down.
Stocking is completely up to you, but the limitation is generally surface area for bacteria and not keeping the inhabitants so cooped up they harass each other.
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Mudcrab anon here. Miracle in tragedy has happened. Some small mudcrabs I kept actually molted and now I’m tempted to have some crispy soft shelled crabs for dinner...

Actually, I might keep this guy until he keeps molting bigger. He came here when he’s 98 grams and now he’s 177 grams. That’s almost doubled in weight!
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>>4467667
>>4467665
Idk , only flow comes from top left of the big filter on the left , theyre all kinda spastic honestley
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>>4467678
You can't kill ich via dehydration,the microbial cyst can survive basically forever. If you have ich and you're on a budget (or the price of fish doesn't justify buying expensive meds) here's a pretty basic method. Furazolidone + malachite green, make sure to add salt to the aquarium (normal table salt, around a table spoon for 10 liters) and increase the temperature to around 30 degrees. Try to spread out the salt and temperature increases over 2 days as to not stress out the fish excessively. If you can't or don't want to isolate the fish for treatment skip the furazolidone as it can kill most invertebrates, plants and benefitial bacteria. If you're medicating in the aquarium go for frequent water changes, as decomposing organic matter deactivates malachite green quite quickly. I've recently completely cleansed 3 aquariums from ich with 2$ worth of meds.
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>>4467747
Mmmmmmm... Mudcrab Meat :DDDD
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>>4466969
you got it right anon, this photo has a poop so no other anons get confused :^)
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>>4467746
I'm not too keen on making permanent changes to any equipment. In the filter area, I was going to take out the charcoal for a block of bio filter sponge, along with another coarse sponge block in the first compartment, just as an easily grabbed hunk of prefilter with the rest as a root area for Pothos. So it'd get sucked through roots, then a coarse, then medium, with a finer block in it and a mesh bag of ceramic bio media, into the heating area and out. Thought popping off the fan nozzles and shoving on prefilter sponges for HotB filters over the ball socket hoses. Just filter the everloving fuck out of it. So yeah, you done know, lol. But think the living area is enough room for 2 flagfish to live in? Was thinking of using soil bags, sand cap and lava rock for additional area for good bacteria. The one thing I seem to be good at is keeping water parameters. Stocking choices are always a pain for me, though. I think the bioload isn't really an issue, it's just figuring out how much room something really needs. Every search if for keeping a spawning group, or for when adding them to a community tank. It's like people saying a single, slow, giant finned monstrosity of a male betta, with no other inhabitants, none, needs a 5 gallon cube. No, I would argue 3 to 3.5. I'll over filter like a mofo, instead. To me it makes more sense. It'd be different if I had more than minimum bio load, like tons of fish in a community. You'd definitely want to over filter there, but then you have different niches doing different things needing their own space and that seems to be where all recommendations for tank size comes from. I just don't wanna unknowingly be harmful to anything with out >>4465757.
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Freedom is slavery, war is peace, filth is clean.

This ugly lil tank smells like nothing. Better. It smells like fresh water. And I'm the guy you go to when your not sure about a piece of fish before dinner.
Good for the fry, I hope. There's at least 25 micro medeka in there.

>>4467823
He cute. Still on the fence on my pleco choice. Gon breed em if I can.
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>>4467837
You know, I did blast it with glut because of some hair algae creeping in yesterday, so maybe it's not time to braid my pubes and join the flower people just yet.
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Somebody definitely discovered the shrimp lol. Big empty head that likely belonged to the fully berried full for better or worse.
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>>4467925
cull*
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>>4467840
This stuff keeps trying to sneak up on me in little patches. Anyone know the kind? Showing up in more than one tank so shouldn't be impossible to nail down a fix.
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My guy looks particularly fancy today. Just felt like sharing :)
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>>4466564
I don't recommend suspending your aquarium like that anon
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What do you think about the Northern Roach frens? A Natural Intergeneric Hybrid between a California Roach and a Hitch.
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>>4467994
Hes Australian anon, gravity works different there
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I found these cool weird tentacle decorations! I know they’re a bit weird looking, but do you think they fit well?
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>>4468018
Your water and glass look really dirty,should probably get around to cleaning it soon.
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>>4468003
>roach
>clearly a fish
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>>4468036
Here in Britain we call a different Cyprinid a Roach. Origin of the name but the Sierra Chub-Roach is also used to denote the California Roach.
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>>4468018
I question your taste. Also microplastic erosion don't do Fish justice. Also this. >>4468024
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>>4468018
Sea dragons and octopus/squid are marine animals, so those are probably saltwater decorations. You need something like this for freshwater, because it looks like a freshwater ramshorn snail
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Hey /aqg/ got a question for y'all, I've had these stones for a bit now and haven't used them in a while and it might be a dumb question but I'll ask anyway.
Would leaving them out for a while get them not only covered in shit not safe for an aquarium but have anything else besides plastic and its stone in the material make up? Don't wanna put shit like rust or the like in my ecosystem but I've let the darker stone soak and rest in a water bucket for a good two week and scrubbed the top part of the stone with my glass cleaning brush and its cleaner than the one I've still left out for a while.
Tl;dr left an old strip stone to soak after leaving it out for a long while, is it safe to use?
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>>4468003
Unless that silver really shines, kinda boring but no worse than fathead minnows.
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>>4468111
I think the Shellcrusher (Hesperoleucus x Mylopharodon) scales will be better since it will combine the bronze sheen with reddish fin and gill points.
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>>4468117
I forgot to mention. Reddishness only appears in breeding season.
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Update with the regani pikes. Female perked up quickly as expected. Got a lot of bugs in her so now we just wait.
I had to play fish musical chairs today because my smaller male pike in my 20g nano tank decided he wanted anything that looks or swims like him out of the tank, so I had to move my microctenopoma and sparkling gourami. I tried to move my badis badis in with the pike because he can be a jerk too, but the pike wasn't having it. So now I have to keep the badis, gourami, and microctenopoma together which makes me a little nervous, but so far it's going good.
I also started finding critters outside under logs finally. My fish got a lot of whiteworms, and I just figured out that roly polies make great puffer food.
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>>4468145
Tropical Reef Tangs are the same. Species of the same sex that look like them but aren't are always on their hit list.
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>>4467804
thanks, glad I found the answer here because google search has been useless and giving me answers for "how long do humans live without water?"
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>>4468148
in freshwater that's most anabantids, cichlids, electric fish, centrarchids etc
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What are these gay fucking worms and how do I get rid of them. They're in my shrimp tank do I have to move the shrimp somewhere else?
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Where are some good places to buy freshwater plants online? Theres only like 1 lfs near me and their selection was really limited
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>>4468284
Shrimp will be fine. Cut back on feeding and keep the water clean and they will go away. If you start seeing bigger worms with triangle heads, then you have problems
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>>4468293
Etsy or eBay. I also like glassgrown aquatics as a small store but they don't have huge selection. Buce plant is pretty good as the "big guy" store, but a little pricier than a good small store. Less risk tho.
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How many ghost shrimp can live in a heated 5G tank without a filter? I have a TON of hair algae so I'm thinking of upping it from 2 to 6 total.
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>>4468324
Just get a dozen or so, the population will level out to whatever the tank can support over time.
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>>4468324
Idk, 50ish?
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>>4467567
So far so good. Mostly the males constantly go after the females which is the goal. They seems to be on the same page. These ladies are getting constant swordtails thrusting at them, it’s pretty great.
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>>4468293
Amazon sells freshwater plants that’s are usually pretty good.
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>>4467695
Just using basic yeast, yeah. I've heard that champagne yeast and stuff like that is reallygood for this, but I just bought what was at my local grocery store. Thanks for the tips.
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>>4468018
You silly fool if you’re gonna put a big dildo in the tank everyone knows you go with GLASS.
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>>4468324
So fucking many. You can fit so much more shrimp in any tank than you expect.
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there's this dude in my state's Facebook group who chimps out and fearmongers any time someone mentions shrimp or snails. They "aren't legal" in my state but literally nobody cares.
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>>4468018
Urotsukidoji theme, cool.
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>infanticide intensifies
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>>4468303
Thanks anon
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>>4468453
It’s only in Maine and Hawaii, right? In Hawaii I can understand, as it has its own native fauna which is often fragile and needs protection (those hawaian shrimps are hardy but they do the brackish water breeding thing, righter?), but it makes little sense in Maine lol. Neocaridina shrimp would only survive the winter in a handful of locations across the state.
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>>4468531
They aren't even really eating them even though they're scouring the plants, for fry I assume.
I think they're just checking on the roast. Kek.
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>>4466953
>Ricefish are fine for a pond like this but if you put goldfish or koi in it they will turn it into a toilet in a matter of weeks

I keep 2 goldfish in here
Water parameters stay stable throughout the summer. Bullrushes absorb lots of nitrate
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Jesus christ man, 4 out of my 5 guppies died
At first i thought it had something to do with the water because i had done a water change yesterday but if it that's the case it would nuke the tank right? i still have a lot of shrimps and 2 gouramis in it
So another thing i can think of maybe i kinda overfilled it a bit and left just a small pocket of air for them since i use a lid, could that be what happened?
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>>4468537
Maine chud exposed. Yeah it sucks ass but I heard they were gonna revise the good boy list to add some inverts because they are sick of getting permit applications
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>>4468570
Do you have fancies? Fancy guppies have been Habsburged out of any resilience, it's a coin toss whether you have a good line that will establish itself with no fuss or mutated horrors that will die if you look at them the wrong way.

With guppies the closer you get to wild type the better.
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>>4468593
Not sure, i think they're closer to wild more than fancies
But they're not really a new addition, already had them for almost 2 years now
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>>4468593
Not that dude, but once I was looking at taking two different established fancies and mixing them. Think breeding inbreds with inbreds would help with that, or like I thought, bad genes+bad genes=bad genes? Never tried breeding though, and have actually avoided the thought, and any easier bred species, until recently.
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>>4468599
But damn, some of those halfmoon dragon lines are prettier than Bettas, imo. And you can have multiples in a small tank. I need to study up on guppies more. I hear wide type guppy and think of endlers, and they don't do it for me. Any cool guppy lines/species that are still healthy?
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>>4468606
*Wild type

Now I'm thinking balloon mollys. Blehck...
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>>4468606
Idk. For me guppies are kind of non-comparible to bettas. Good looking and fun to watch in groups but not much personality.
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>accidentally not enough conditioner in water change (about 10, 20%)
>chlorine level now 0.8ppm
>didn't notice until the next evening
>threw in more conditioner and did another water change
>level still reads 0.8

Fuck, is it over for my 5gal shrimp tank
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I have inherited a lot of frogbit. Is it dangerous to have them cover 95% of the tank surface like causing fish run out of oxygen or heat issues (I have a heater for the tropical fish)
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>>4468284
Just some detritus worms. Nothing bad about them.
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>>4468714
If you're worried, you can get a $5 airstone. Floaters of all kinds will die if you regularly wet the upper surface of their leaves, so you'll both have more oxygen from the stone and a splash zone that the floaters won't cover. There won't be any effect on the temperature.

In other news, I just saw a bronze cory attempt to death roll a bloodworm. This shit is why I keep tanks. I wonder if I can train them to do it, maybe I should invest in these fish whips the thread's been talking about lately.
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So I figured out why this one stupid stem has a fuck ton of algae. Hard to see in the picture, but the sun is coming through a window across the room and hitting basically just this stem.

Whatever, the flagfish will get there eventually, they're slowly scouring the entire tank, and winning.
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>>4468550
Are the goldfish fully grown?

>>4468570
Are you sure you acclimated them correctly?
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>>4468849
>Are you sure you acclimated them correctly?
They're not new addition, been with me for almost 2 years
It happened overnight so i'm 90% sure it has something to do with that water change or at least i wouldn't know what else that could possibly cause it
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>>4468864
Probably the water, but I've heard about deodorants/cleaning supplies getting into the tank and killing a bunch of fish too. Something to consider if you've done spring cleaning lately.
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>>4468849
>acclimation matters
My experience with endlers, guppies, and hybrids of the two suggests this isn't the case. I've gotten them piecemeal and in small groups from a bunch of sources, and haven't seen any correlation between the way they were introduced and mortality.

>>4468570
Is your water soft or acidic? Adult fancy guppies that aren't raised in it have a hard time making that jump, in my experience. Guppies born in tank are really hardy - assuming you avoid adding outside pathogens - but once they're adults, males in particular can't deal with the changing water very well. They don't give two shits about nitrates, but as best I can tell, their immune systems drop significantly when they are adjusting to a "new normal" and many of them just can't make it.

The hardiest populations for me have been hybrid fry that barely have colors showing, who seem to make the jump easier than full adults. That said, I've also gotten batches of (afaik) full-blood guppies that had no health problems, so some of it may also be the pathogens in their "home" tank vs the new ones.

In general I think endlers are much hardier than guppies and a couple generations of cross breeding results in the ideal males - but females revert to gray/green "generic fish" color though and are as big as guppy females. So in summary, get dwarf fireball platys instead of guppies.
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>>4468864
Oh disregard my long post if they've been there that long. Is it city water? You'll sometimes get a "chlorine blast" from city water where the concentration is >10x normal. Nothing for it except write off as shitty luck, or to dechlorinate your water and then also let it sit for a couple days afterwards. And if it's chloramine rather than chlorine, there's nothing you can do except overdose every change with a dechlorinator.
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>>4468879
It's ground water but i have no idea about it's quality except that it's maybe hard as hell since my tank and filter all had that white residue all over it
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6.1/?

Huh, didn't expect to see pearling so quickly after planting, especially Cuba which is making 99% of them (haven't seen it on any other carpet plant or the fast-growing ones)
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>>4468781
If you want fun corys, I can recommend orange Venezuelans. Not because they are colorful as the pictures - mine certainly aren't - but because half the school at any given time is eating at the surface like so. Not doing the cory air breath thing, actually looking for/eating food.
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>>4468917
Sick acguy
Are gunplas aquarium safe in general? you make me want to put on of my model in a tank
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>>4468920
Will look into them, thanks. Always fun when that happens, I don't have laser cories but I've seen trilineatus doing the same.

Bronzes don't do it, probably because they're bulkier and turning their heads up to browse the roots is tiring, but sometimes one of them decides it wants to be a shark and cruises around in the midlevel instead of hanging with its fellows at the bottom. I think it's the same bronze every time.
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>>4468938
I wonder if that bronze is actually some other species? I've got some lasers that do the top thing occasionally but I see maybe one a day doing it, vs half the vens at any given time.
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>>4468945
Might be, but it's a large female so it might feel safe enough to swim around in the open. And my bad, thought orange Venezuelans were like the gold laser cories. Turns out they're different.

Maybe the surface-browsing cories form a specific lineage? There's like 130 species + a bunch of undescribed after all, lots of room for feeding niches.
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>>4468924
No clue. This is my first aquarium and I didn't add fish yet.

Half the mass of my hardscape is silicone and black modeling clay, if the 10 grams of acrylic-based primer, paint and varnish on the gunpla are the thing that kill my shrimp then I'd be surprised (I did avoid weathering with enamel paints though).
Parts of the paint bubbled a bit (especially the white stripes since those are Liquitex professional ink as opposed to the rest which is Vallejo Air) - adds to the realism I guess. No doubt some of it will flake off in time.

If you're asking about unpainted Gunpla then they are safe for sure™.

Anyway, I'll report back when the corpses start mounting
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>>4468550
Based tubby.
Your healthy plant makes me sad. All my indoor house plants are currently on the porch getting dropped to 33F for a few evenings, then a cocktail of neem and liquid death(s).
FUCK spidermites. They are so ubiquitous and resistant here.
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It's getting kind of crazy in here. Some have been trimmed down recently to regrow bushy, so that's why there's some unevenness. The hydrocotyle bridge is coming along nicely, too.

I probably...went too far.
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I have 8 shrimp but it seems only one of them is female. Is she gonna be okay?
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she just finding herself
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>>4468326
>>4468327
>>4468407
I bought 6 more ghost shrimp. They are all over the tank now. It's pretty neat. I will probably buy more, but first I want to rearrange the tank to look nicer.
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Aquahuna just got Odessa Barbs restocked. At less than $4/ea, I implore anyone with stock space to get a school of 10+. They're great fish, healthiest of any species I've kept, no nipping, easy eaters, don't give a shit from 6-8 ph and 18-32C, absolutely stunning at full size.
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>>4468781
thanks, got an airstone and extra sponge filter for our tank and they're clearing out nicely
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>>4469177
mine are hidey crybaby faggots.
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Bumble gobies are fucking cancer to feed. You only eat live foods, that includes living creatures you killed to eat now being dead so thusly inedible.
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>>4469231
How many do you have? Mine have been nothing but bold since day 1 but I've not dropped under 14 in the school and currently have ~20. They come to the glass when I waggle my fingers, and they feeding frenzy like nobody's business.

I also have always had 15-20 white clouds as well, maybe the dither is more important than I give credit.
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>>4469247
All freshwater gobies kinda suck, sadly. Hard to feed in one way or another, wild caught, short lived, and most of them only the dominant male in a tank will show any colors.

I want to love gobies, I really do. But best case, you end up with a weird looking oto for a year.
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>>4469252
I’m seeding random neo culls and any Malawa shrimp I manage to catch on a bait plate. Should work for now but pretty shitty.
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I burned my hand on my tropical heater while redoing my tank. It's blistering how fucking hot does it get to make water 78*F
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>>4469264
Water takes a lot of heat to raise in temp and does not transmit heat well. It would help to have it where there is water current.
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>>4469264
Ouch, sorry. This is why my next filter will have an internal heater.
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>>4467837
Nothing better than sweet clean clear water. Delicious. You could definitely benefit from applying the rule of thirds to your tank and adding depth. I must flag this, but otherwise well done.
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>>4469167
I look at my tank
and what do I see?
All 8 of my shrimp!
They look back at me.
There's shrimp in the cup
and shrimp by the stone;
all 8 of my shrimp
now call this tank home.
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>>4469296
I love my shrimp
I love them real hard
Then I like to defecate
On your front yard
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https://files.catbox.moe/q1wksg.mp4
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>>4469298
You didn't try
Your poem's bad
I read it
and now I'm sad
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>>4468597
Guppies only live 2-3 years. It might have just been their time and they decided to go out as a group in style.
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will scuds eat baby shrimp? some places say yes and some say no. not sure who to believe
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>>4469312
It’s all that fucking
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>>4469247
Mine eat frozen and dead food just fine. I got them from dan so that might make them better. I agree that it's near impossible to get them on dry foods. They are still awesome though.
>>4469252
>All freshwater gobies kinda suck, sadly.
Watch your mouth. Gobies are some of the best aquarium fish I've kept. Larger species are extremely easy to feed. I can understand stiphodons, they have the otto problem of coming in like shit, but the rest of freshwater gobies are amazing. Any goby labeled as "gudgeon" is an instant buy for me because they are so fun. They are almost always super colorful as well.
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>>4469351
Pretty but hard to propagate. If I can’t easily make more of it in my tank, I’m not interested (amanos aside).
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>>4469309
Then prepare to be sadder
For I look upon you
Like a snail from my bladder!
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>>4469057
Here, what type of shrimp should I get next? I have amanos, and a ton of blue rili/carbon rili mixed (some lovely gold-backed ones, too).
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>>4469294
I was constrained by the wood floating and me going to art school ending badly for everyone.
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I'm kind of new. How come I never see cichlid tanks posted here? I bought a dozen a few months ago, and it's been hell. They're constantly trying to kill eachother.
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>>4468917
>robot liek pine coom ::]

>>4467828
Is this part of the tldr?
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>>4469399
Nevermind, wasted dubs. I'm stupid.
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>>4469387
Ah floating wood. That can be readily fixed by crazy gluing it to rock. Art school I know less about.
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>>4469396
Feels like you just answered your own question a little. Never had them myself, but my roommate had a big ass oscar that jumped out of his tank. What kind of cichlid?

My pea puffers will do a little bit of chasing, but on the whole mine seem to not have earned the nickname murder beans (unless you're a snail). They entirely ignore the one pygmy corydora that survived the great dying off and all of my shrimp and khulis.
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>>4469364
>>4469309
You are both faggots.
Faggots are what you both are.
I meant what I said.
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>>4469396
I've got three pairs of rams in three different tanks, a pair of apistos in another, and then the multifaciatus colony. I'm too busy dealing with agression & tank maintenance to take photos.
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>>4469364
On a more serious note, nice tank.
What are the red fork tails?
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>>4469413
Shiieeeeet. What size tanks?
I was hoping to keep some pairs in my rack of 10 and 20s.
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>>4469252
Reminded me of how I thought this was cool but nothing would use it even if I did go for it.
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>>4469414
Some sort of swordtail. My guy at the lfs didn’t specify. It’s orange. And has details. The white ones are the ones with the green tail that are supposed to be more natural/original versions of swords. I’m going to make them all procreate with each other and see what kind of mixed breed they produce. The snails are ramshorn snails. I’m holding off on adding shrimp for now.
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>>4469415
You definitely can, I have the rams in 10s, the others in 20s (the apistos share the tank with a school of ember tetras) all on a rack. I'd post a quick photo but the apistos are currently getting rescaped and a couple of rams are in "time out" so it looks messy.
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I'm currently working on my first tank (cycled it for a couple months, had fauna for about 2 weeks) and there's this strange brown algae stuff everywhere. Any tips for getting rid of it? It's making the amazon sword's life very hard plus my tank is gross looking. It's just cherry shrimp and mystery snails so maybe they'll take care of it over the coming months? Any other advice would be appreciated. All the parameters seem right and the fauna is doing better than the flora but it's still clearly far from good, so please help me out if you have anything to say.
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>>4469428
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>>4469430
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>>4469417
I wonder about that device too. Do you have shrimp?
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>>4469431
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>>4469425
Lyretail swordtail - their dicks are too big for them to use so they are effectively sterile, you could still give it a shot though.
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>>4469428
I don’t know what the fuck that is my friend. It looks like Swamp Thing ejaculated in your tank. You need amanos to fix that situation. Lots of them. And a handful of nerite snails perhaps.
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what extinct fish would you keep?
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>>4469436
There’s 2 pairs of each of the orange and white so theres nonstop fish action going down. These little fuckers sure are trying.
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>>4469428
How long are you running your lights? Can try keeping the lights off and keeping the tank dark for a while to stop feeding lots of algae.
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>>4469439
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>>4469396
cichlids require big tanks that most people here dont have and you also have to deal with cichligger antics.
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>>4469439
oh shit I could just get a bowfin
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>>4469438
I think it's settled substrate on top of algae. The tank was very cloudy when I first started cycling it. I have no idea how to fix it, though.

>>4469442
I have them on ~10 hours a day. That too much?
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>>4469306
The retard didn't even eat it
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>>4469448
I run mine about as long and don't have so many problems, but every tank is unique. I'd try keeping them off for several days, it's the easiest way to start choking out algaes or so I've been told.
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>>4469451
Your plants will suffer, though, so be aware.

My hairgrass has yet to recover despite it being weeks later.
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>>4469316
Scuds is a broad term that includes a wide variety of families, genera and species. I would say they probably won't but they will likely out compete the shrimps reducing the shrimp numbers by competition.
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>>4469436
Fuck, I didn't know those were boners. Now I'm super mad I'm just barely passed in those pike live-bearers or whatever.
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>>4469444
>look at the face
>try to say name
I'm fucking crying. This is a gold mine.
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The future is now.
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Ok, it's out of my system. Sorry.
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>>4469495
>>4469489
>>4469487
>>4469484
These dumbass faces are why I'm obsessed with puffers.
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>wake up in the middle of the night
>go check on my fish, turn on the light
>see my lone threadfin rainbowfish looking lethargic, looking transparent and with red gills
>only see 2 danions
>"oh shit"
>dose emergency prime and do an ammonia test
>ammonia and nitrites are at 0ppm
>check the aquarium again and the fish went back to his regular color and all the other danios show up
Wtf? Fish change color when they are asleep? I never heard of this. I thought they were dying of ammonia poisoning.
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>>4469400
Sorry ma'am. Trying to be thorough.
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Anyone with Kuhlis just like
Never

Ever

See them and have to fight the urge to fuck up their hideyhole and attempt counting them to see if the number has gone down, checks or there's more? Stupid cracknoodles. Be more fishy. Substrate fucking flawless tho.
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>>4469527
Fish do the thing where they zzzzz a little and they don't into pretty sparkles when it's all the dark.
Green neons, for example. Kuhlis go from a solid medium yellow and black to just kinda fleshy translucent blellow.

Sit and watch your fish for 30 minutes as they respond to the changing ambient light at sunrise.
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>>4469593
Nah, mine love to hang out under a little propped up log or in my ambulia forest, I see em all the time.
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>>4469527
They change for any and all reasons. Stress, aggression, light changes, water changes, dominance hierarchy, you name it.

Guppy eyes, for example, turn black before they're about to strike a rival, which shows their killing intent and willingness to abandon their pacifistic ideals to protect their nakama. Fucking Deviantart OC fish, I love them.
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>>4469351
That's fair I was thinking the small gobies and not remembering gudgeons are part of the same family - gudgeons are great fish. Stiphodons and the brackish tiny ones I can't recommend.
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Just added three more neons to my tank of six and they're going wild. Chasing each other all over the tank and shit. Seems they're bullying one in particular.

Is there any way to stop them? Will this even out eventually? I'm worried they're gonna chase the weak looking one to death or something. I'd remove him to put him back in quarantine but I don't see how that'll do anything other than start this all over again once he's reintroduced
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>>4469034
I'm hoping the plants come back this spring
If not I'll have to collect more again. I also will raise frog tadpoles in the tub with the goldfish
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>>4469672
unless they're massive tadpoles all you gonna get is fatted up goldfish
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Burrowing snails keep uprooting my stem plant trimmings. (°□°)︵ ━
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>>4469698
I did it last spring and only a few got eaten

The goldfish are bigger this year though
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>>4469593
I see mine a lot, but never have I seen them all at once, except maybe once. Now I can never be sure since they've reproduced in there.
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>>4469571
You're still allowed to use line breaks. Then someone might read it.
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Saw this little fuck nut rice fry (out of focus top right) nip a shrimp. Damn man. Just thinking I don't need or want to feed this tank, but hunting seed shrimp or w/e from maybe birth has made him a motherfucker.
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>>4467740
If you use the filter area well, you can fishmaxxx the tank and still have crystal clear water, healthy fish, etc - roughly 20% of the volume as filter is a huge amount of potential filtration.

To your original question, flagfish would do OK if it's well planted but mine will sometimes glass surf in a 36x12" footprint, not sure if that means they need more space or they just see "more space" reflected on the glass, but either way, flags will use all the space you give them, top and bottom.

Don't worry about flow if you want betta or guppies, though. The impact is overstated for anything but maybe crown/veil-tail male bettas, and I'm not convinced they can't deal, either. Guppies actually like flow from my experience, they'll play in heavy outputs or swim against it for hours.

Another idea would be some platys. Pick a color you like or go full skittles. Or if you like natives, there are other livebearers that you could grab - pygmy swordtails are great if you can find them, girandia Metallica, heterandria formosa, etc. Basically go look at wild type livebearers in aquabid - any smaller than a domestic swordtail or molly will go in your tank fine, and livebearers tend to be plenty happy with either a pair/trio or a whole swarm.
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>>4469649
What size tank? Some neons are just peace destroying assholes in my experience. Maybe 1/15.
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The remains of a nephilem.
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>>4469804
And fag boy.
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Follow your dreams. Or don't.
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>>4469433
Yeah, but no fish boonker.
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RIP one of my ghost shrimp. The tankmates eat it. I'll take out the remains in a couple hours.
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>>4469818
>Longer, bonier and more elongated gonopodium tips are, of course, relative; in small fish, these organ tips are generally only 1 millimeter long. Yet the findings suggest that male fish under constant threat of serving as a predator's snack have evolved better ways to impregnate females under these conditions.
>"When predators are around, G. hubbsi males spend a lot of time attempting to mate with females because of the high mortality rate," Heinen-Kay said. "We hypothesize that G. hubbsi have evolved these bonier and more elongated gonopodium tips as a way to copulate even when females don't cooperate."
>"Essentially, males need to transfer as much sperm as possible as quickly as possible, and this shape difference could help facilitate that," Langerhans said.

Big Spike doesn't ask twice.
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>>4469593
Since my stuff has grown more out of control, I've seen them out more (or rather, can see into their hiding spots). They do have a cave I'd love to get into, but I have to lift a huge rock with wood attached on it.

>>4469057
I was going to let the hydrocotyle attach as a bridge and then trim it into shape, but I'm considering it looks too busy already... maybe I should just trim the bushes down.
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My betta has a tumor on his tail. Is there any treatment option? Should I cut it out myself?
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>>4469708
I gave up planting for precisely this reason. Now I just weigh down my plants and hope the snail menace doesn’t get too uppity
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>water evaporate like crazy
>put lid
>fish are gasping for air
I can't win in this climate
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>>4469825
I put the shrimp outside. I hope a kitty cat eats it.
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>cherry shrimp was pregnant
>about two week later now it's not
>still fanning herself constantly as if berried but she ain't
>don't see baby shrimp anywhere

Did Orangey have an abortion or something?
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>>4469987
Add an airstone bro.
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>>4470183
Roe v wade was fully in effect in my tank when my amanos were releasing their young into the water.
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>>4469632
Yeah they are a pain in the ass. Gudgeons are some of the easiest and prettiest fish out there
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>>4469593
>make the mistake of using white sand as a substrate
>hate it
>cover it with rocks and pebbles of different sizes
>Realize I made a khuli paradise and get a shit ton
>see maybe 1 a day
Fuckers
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Playing fucking fish musical chairs when a chimplid decides to be an asshole is so fucking annoying. Leave my anabantids alone you little shit
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>>4470266
Mine are out even more now that I threw in culls. They try to hunt them but suck at it big time.
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>>4470266
They come out and swim in long vertical circles when a weather change is coming. But yes, sand sucks still. I find that loaches like ada aqua soil too but don’t dig in it as much.
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need a new thread
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thread new a need
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>>4470326
New thread is needed
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>>4470338
>>4470326
>>4470321
Keep the change, ya filthy /an/imals.

NEW THREAD

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