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dumb kot edition
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>>>/mu/115469193
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>>4464971
Had the car for a few years, got her from a shelter

>>4464972
She has oral squamous cell carcinoma. It's essentially a death sentence once symptoms are obvious

Leaving for the vet in two hours, this fucking sucks
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My friend's entire litter of kittens died. I believe there were four. They were alive at birth and all passed within a day.
What causes this?
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>>4464996
god reached down from the heavens because there were too many kittens already and they're all basically the same thing so there's no need for any more

it's not like breeding dogs where if you have anything but a gsd/pit/rot it IS special because you are sparing future dog owners from a horrible life altering/ending mauling. yeah go ahead and make as many golden retriever puppies as you want. but all cats are the same breed. and there are shitloads of kittens already. we still have kill shelters specifically because of cat overpopulation. if they closed, the no-kill karen trick of sending golden retrievers to the kill shelter and keeping the no-kill full of pits would become impossible, fyi....

spay and neuter your cats as early as they can survive surgery. cats enjoy 0 health benefits from staying intact.
any pregnant cat should have an abortion ASAP. you are effectively killing identical kittens somewhere else by adopting out those ones anyways, you know?
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>>4465007
>as early as they can survive surgery
My last cat had urination issues because he was cut too early.
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>>4465018
ok and why are you posting a dog in a cat thread???
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>>4465007
i'm not neutering my cat because he's indoor only and i like looking at his balls
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>>4465007
Crazy because if you don’t have the money for it most states I know have services for spaying and neutering cats on the cheap. I made the mistake with my first thinking I should wait for the first heat cycle like larger dogs but everything’s spayed once I hit a healthy weight now

>>4465032
Wait till the balls drop
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>>4464967
something about this webm always makes me think of infomercials
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>>4465080
I know EXACTLY what your house smells like
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Why do cats like buttscratches?
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>>4465174
The area right behind their tails is an erogenous zone, you are basically jerking your cat off when you do that.
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>>4465184
I wont do it then.
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>>4465184
>you are basically jerking your cat
I think you're overstating that a bit
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>>4465193
Just a bit.
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>>4464996
Kittens can't regulate their own body temperature, so if its a young cat with her first litter, sometimes she just sucks and they all die.
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I love this lil' nigga like you wouldn't believe.
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>>4465119
he doesn't spray, he's never sprayed
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>>4465085
I leave all my dogs intact and all my cats are neutered
All female dogs and all male cats. They’re just better pets. Dogs are feminine animals and cats are chads.
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>>4465427
The chatgpt spammer is in multiple threads now huh
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I got two kittens last October, one of them is very social and friendly, likes being pet and hanging around me, the other one is super shy and doesn't let you touch him and very easily runs away at the slightest hint of someone approaching him. Lately however the shy cat is starting to loosen up a little, occasionally lets me or my roommate pet him for a little, comes to sleep in my bed with me and in general hangs out near us often. Another thing is that whenever he sleeps on my bed, if I have any of my clothes lying on it, he goes to sleep on top of them. This always seemed strange to me, since he's supposedly afraid of me, why does he go for the place where my scent is the strongest? Does it mean he secretly likes me or is it something else?
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Has anyone here peed in their cats' litter box? how did it go?
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>>4465085
His balls had dropped, did it when the vet told us we should.
He's on special food but still occasionally cries when he pees.
No silica gel cat litter BTW.
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>>4465430
honeypot, no thanks
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>>4465533
retard shut up
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>>4465534
He right
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>>4465430
What's wrong, you don't want more husky threads?

Meow
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Sleepiest kitty
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Chunky cat
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>>4465679
Random house cat I met on street just greeting and chilling by my feet
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I've had my kitten for 4 months now, and he's a cunt. He's the loudest, most adventurous, disturbing shitty cat. I've tried playing with him, being nice, being mean, every fucking thing and I hate him.

He's 10 months. Is there hope of him calming the fuck down? I'm tried of being woken at 6am by screeching then constant meowing throughout the day, scratching everything, clawing at me to feed him every time I stand up, and climbing every piece of furniture. He has toys and scratch posts. I'm just sick of this little shit. I've locked him in the bathroom right now because I want 5 minutes of peace.
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>>4465688
Is he fixed? They calm down significantly when they're a couple of years old. Mine don't howl if they're not hungry so feed him right before you go to bed if that's why he's meowing. Mine are also quiet when I let them sleep in bed vs not in bed. Picrel my retards
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>>4465080
Don't they still have their balls it's just a small cut right
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>>4464996
Can be all sorts of reasons. They seem so vulnerable can't regulate their own temperature, need stimulation from the mother/carer to poop or can just die for basically no reason some sudden death syndrome
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>>4465080
based and gay. i know exactly what you mean

>>4465723
>need stimulation from the mother/carer to poop
i've heard of this. don't you have to tongue a kitten's anus in the first weeks of life?
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>>4464967
They aren't dumb, they are reverse smart
Just like me
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>>4465007
>but all cats are the same breed.
Into the TRASH it goes...
How AMAZINGLY RETARDED.
>This is now a Retarded cat hater thread
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>>4464967
I taught mine how to push doors open
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>>4465184
>>4465174
Jesus fuck this meme.
It's a tension spot. Same as you have in the upper right side of your back.
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>>4465007
Hitlerina is in no way the same breed as other cats. She's an Aryan cat
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>>4465785
>hello me, meet the real me
this is my brothers cat, the long lost twin.
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>>4465734
Ah yes the cat breeds
Orange
More black than not
Tabby
Calico
White
White with other colors
Gray
Ugly
Uglier
God damn
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>>4465863
>cats
>what breed is your cat
>ugly
>haha nasty

>dogs
>what breed is your dog
>hes not unhealthy he’s doing fine i rescued him from a responsible AKC approved breeder that tests for hip issues so he only has cancer and epilepsy and a genetically limited lifespan of 7 and a standards conforming working temperament that gives him an instinctive need to bite people.
>I’m leaving
>why do you hate dogs bigot
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>>4465707
He was fixed 3 months ago. He doesn’t calm down if I feed him, he constantly wants to eat. He sleeps in his bed but if I sleep more than 2 hours he decides it time to yowl at me and hit my face until I get up. I don’t know if I can’t wait until he’s a few years old to see if he’ll calm down. That’s years of this fucking torture
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>>4465248
Seems that she loves you too.

>>4465487
It could mean that 1) he likes you (so where your smell is strongest is the best place where to relax) 2) he's covering your smell with his own smell lol cats do this when they want to claim a spot or a territory, similar to marking with their pee.
It's good that he's slowly becoming less shy. Give him time.

>>4465524
I want to do try doing it someday. Will my cats get mad?
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>>4465881
He might still be bored. Enrich the environment with scratching posts and a cat tree to divert the attention.
Some cats are more crazy than others, and he's still young which is even worse.
Try bach flowers for hyperactive animals.
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>>4465427
oh no, you got me, my walls and furniture and everything i own that isn't more than a foot above the floor is actually soaked in cat piss, i just decided to go on the internet and lie about it for no partcular reason
>>4465722
no?
neutering refers to a double orchidectomy, not a vasectomy
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>>4465007
Femoid tier post
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I get my cat neutered after their first spray

They develop more personality, male or female you get cats that are shy and have pain or personality problems if you neuter too early

This is my experience as a life long cat owner
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>>4465102
>there has GOT to be a better way!
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>>4465863
There are a few (well, many) cat breeds. Them being the result of active breeding. Sphynx and Chartreuse are an example. In many cases people mistake a cat's coat for its breed. Tux, Tortoiseshells and Calicos are not breeds, they just are coats.
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>>4465996
Orange is my favorite breed because my cats are orange and I love them :)
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milo is relaxing on my stomack after cuddling in 3 different places (now sleeping)
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>>4466055
now more awake and purring
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>>4465234
Texas animal coalition, just gotta bring them in a trap to prove they are feral. Otherwise it's dirt cheap still
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>>4465487
He likes you and feels safe around you regardless, it sees you feed it and water it etc. It just is too shy, it's learning that not everythings a danger zone.

I grabbed the confident cat of the litter and the runt of the litter as my first two and the same thing happened. To this day when people are over she's nowhere to be found but when the dogs are out and people are gone, she'll just pop into existence.
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>>4465311
Male cats will wander off at 4-6 months to go fuck and never come back. Or they'll come back after contributing to the feral cat population. Why would you do that.
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>>4465531
Some things go wrong, don't stop that from neutering your future cats.
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>>4465707
Should've punted that kitten into a wall the moment it ever clawed you, sorry cats need to learn not to claw.
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>>4466113
Neutered male cats are clingy lovebugs wtf are you on about
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>>4466129
Misread your post, thought you said you didn't neuter your males
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all cat personalities exist on a sliding scale between retard and sociopath
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>>4465184
it's an "erogenous zone" like human necks and ears are "erogenous zones"
it's not actually sexual pleasure, just generally sensitive and pleasurable and in the context of a sexual partner doing it the combination of arousal and pleasure becomes erotic

you scratching your cats back above the tail is like getting a massage, it's only hot if the person doing it is attractive
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>>4465080
Are you Japanese by any chance?
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This is my cat :)
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>>4466197
very beautiful, anon. i just got a tortoiseshell cat today. she's hiding under my bed but i hope to have pics soon. dunno whether to spay her. if it's too late for any meaningful cancer-preventing benefit (she's 1 year old) i may just skip it
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>>4466195
no
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>>4466176
>fly, you fools!
>CATDALF!!!!!!!
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>>4464967
God, I got three males left from this stray cats litter and every retard keeps glossing over the biggest, calmest male in the pack. He is already playing with my puppy and showed no fear at my other dog, if I didn’t have a cat already he’d be mine. But why wouldn’t you want the actual alpha of the litter, they’re the ones that don’t cause any problems assuming you get them fixed

Inb4: local autist screeches at my puppy being in the pic
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>>4466055
>>4466062
Sweet tuxie!

>>4466197
She's so cutee!!!

>>4466255
>if it's too late for any meaningful cancer-preventing benefit (she's 1 year old) i may just skip it
That's not how it works. Spaying is never too late, there is no age limit so at a certain point it is useless. Also if you don't spay her she will go into heat once or more every year, she'll be stressed (and you will be too). I spayed a 5 years old stray last summer and she's doing great, plus I don't have to constantly deal with kittens.
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>>4466297
>Spaying is never too late, there is no age limit so at a certain point it is useless
this isn't necessarily true. i did find this article
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1939-1676.2005.tb02727.x?sid=nlm%3Apubmed
that suggests that spaying is age-dependent in terms of reducing the relative breast cancer risk. the cat i just adopted is just about exactly a year old, so i'd probably want to remove her ovaries only ASAP
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>>4466297
>>4466300
Regardless, in my personal experience a cat unspayed will escape when it’s in heat eventually. One day you’ll be caught unaware or a friend will be coming to pick something up while your gone etc. Just spay the cat. This stray litters mom was clearly somebodies cat before, they didn’t spay it but I will
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>>4466315
maybe. i did already get in contact with a reproductive specialist vet. as a one-time deal for a significant surgery, i'm willing to shell out for a specialist. it definitely makes me feel better that she's already a woman
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>>4466319
Yeah good call man! I didn’t read the prior parts of the thread and still haven’t, I’m not that other anon, but a cat in heat is something else man, unstoppable forces of nature they’ll find a way to get out and get fucked
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>>4466336
no real prior stuff to read. i'm on the fence about spaying, generally in favor, and want to work with a professional who's specifically trained in animal reproduction. the cat also needs a rabies shot and maybe a genetic screening, but any old vet can do that.

she's already had distemper combo vaxxes 1 and 2, and the breeder dewormed her at home twice with something called Pyrantel Pamoate. got the medical docs and called the vet a couple days ago. hell, i might hit these people up for a dog when i can have space/time for one. they breed golden retrievers on this 12-acre farm and are recognized by some organization (american kennel club?)
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>>4466339
this is the cat. i'm sure once she settles in, she'll be a wonderful companion for many years. typical tortoiseshell/calico temperament i think, not excessively cuddly, but affectionate highly dependent on trust
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>>4465881
Try play with him until he is panting before you feed him in addition to what other anon said
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>>4466339
I see, my rec is to just do it bc this thing will hit multiple heat cycles for multiple years and you’ll see, you can’t keep up with each and you may lose your companion. And yeah akc for dogs retrievers are good

>>4466340
And definitely! It took my cats days to settle in she’ll be good
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>>4466358
yeah. now that i've got the vet papers and all that, i can fill out the intake for the specialty reproductive vet. rabies vaxx is lower priority, "nice to have," same with a baseline genetic screen. my main health concern is dental health. hopefully she'll let me brush her teeth in time. my family cat had like 8 teeth pulled and my brother's cat has fucked up teeth because he depends on 100% wet food due to some bladder crystals or some shit

right now she's just chilling under my bed. i pop in every 30-45 minutes and talk to her a bit. food, water, litter, scratching, and some wool balls and empty boxes are there. nice quiet room to chill out and get acclimated. i live alone and only use it for sleeping, so not a lot of traffic/activity

i also ordered a nice laser off amazon, more for me than for her. one of the reviews said that the guy's dumbass son permanently injured his eyes with it, so that's a great recommendation IMO. pointing red dots at faraway objects is way more fun than it should be
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My cats lost a lot of weight after a bout of pancreatitis, what can I feed her that will really fatten her up
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>>4466381
dunno specifically, maybe feed her kitten food for a while?

i just bought a bag of this one (adult). orijen original cat, seems good. basically just poulty, fish, organs, and micronutrients with a really high protein/fat content. it's like $7/lb though, and the billion other choices at the pet store were ~4.50/lb minimum. so we'll have to see if wal-mart has good food cheaper...

also, next time i make pate, i also wanna make a special portion for my cat that has no shallots in it. blended liver and a tiny bit of heavy cream, should be healthy and fattening
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>>4466388
...and of course mars corp bought orijen recently. fair warning: the food *might* turn into goyslop, as did iams
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>>4466381
I wouldn't do anything to quickly to "fatten" her up. just let her heal, keep her hydrated, and encourage food at her own pace.
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>>4466366
Man what the fuck is wrong with your families cats, every cat I've had has done fine with regular food until it dies. But here's the thing about the rabies vaxx, get it done, its dirt cheap for cats. If you don't get your cat fixed and it gets out you want that vaxx ahead of time. I wouldn't even bother with a genetic screen unless you're breeding or just have the spare money

Lasers are great for cats though, she'll start the exploring stage very soon and before you know it she'll be chilling in your lap in the living room.
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why must she always check if there's water with her paw?
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>>4466546
she always wants to eat the banana strings, never the fruit
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>>4466546
reflective surfaces confuse them
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male cat eats a lot turning fat
female barely eats enough although not underweight just very small

I leave a full bowl but mostly he gobbles it up, can't micromanage so he doesn't overeat and she doesn't overeat by segregating them into rooms or smth

wat do
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>cat kept licking my blanket all evening.
Is she autistic?
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>>4466388
i wish something like that existed for humans
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>>4465559
>so, this is were you live
>this is my property, you are trespassing and I have the right to use lethal force on you
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>>4466659
eat real food
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>>4466537
my mother gorged annabel on a shit ton of wet food and never took her for real dental cleanings. we noticed one of her incisors was basically rotten, which finally prompted her to go to the vet. then annabel came back with like 8 teeth missing. now we feed her free-foraged dry food with one special meal every night that's about 1/5th of a can of wet food mashed in warm water. none of my other two family cats before annabel had bad teeth

my brother's cat squeaks is a weirdo. long story short, he was raised by some MAGA chef in a shitty greek restaurant in canada my brother worked at, then given to another guy at that same restaurant who was my brother's roommate a legit fuckup (40, no bank account, extreme alcoholic, got drunk and punched a hole in the wall). anyway, when my brother left, the MAGA guy and the restaurant owner cornered the fuckup and told him, "john's taking the cat." it's fucked but at least my brother gives the cat a dental water supplement

my plan is to feed my cat once daily with a measured portion of this orijen food (bag says 2 oz for its weight), once nightly with a small bit of mashed wet food, only use dental treats, and assume that a good yearly cleaning is just part of the vet bill. i wanna try brushing its teeth a little bit, if not, have chewing grass available (greens have microscopic silica particles, which is why your mouth feels "raw" after eating spinach)

>>4466659
dude reading cat food reviews is one of the most insane experiences. i suspect crazy cat ladies will actually eat a "gourmet pate" cat meal, not realizing it's at best shredded whole poultry in broth
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>>4466707
re: rabies shot, yeah it's great insurance. i've been through a rabies scare, not fun. spaying is in the cards, just not something i take lightly. some kind of genetic test is a nice little luxury maybe, to have a baseline health report. but totally unnecessary, its a tortoiseshell so those are usually healthy mutts who happen to have distinct female colors

my cat's hiding again right now, but last night she did have a crazy late night play time, and she ate all the dental treats i left out (feline greenies), a decent bit of the dry food, and she used the litterbox just fine

so things are looking good. i'm still just popping in to talk to her and generally leaving her alone to get acclimated
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cool, i think the meal plan is finalized. this should keep it healthy without turning it into an amerifat

>2 oz orijen dry food in the morning
>return anything uneaten to the bag at night

>7 pieces feline greenies in a little dish
>it's kinda goyslop but there's nothing better

>1/5th or 1/6th of a can of wet food mashed in water at night
>maybe add like 1/8th teaspoon of powdered seaweed (there's no kelp in the food i bought)

>water: this continuous fountain thing pictured so it drinks a lot

>sometimes: feed it the nasty stringy parts of liver, heart, etc., when i cook with it
>maybe a pea-sized bit of anchovy paste (i checked, the human portion of 1 tablespoon has 830 mg sodium so a cat portion will have maybe 50 mg max)

seems good until orijen food becomes goyslop cuz mars corp bought the brand. it's so nutrient dense that you need at the very most 4 oz/day for a fatass cat. it's also cheaper in a 12-lb bag ($5.85/lb)
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Does feliway diffuser actually work? My cat is insane, so much i can't invite people over because he's destroying everything in the background and making visiting me unappealing.
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my cat just scratched me so i punched him
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>>4467062
What did it do after you punched him? I hope you know it will never fully trust you now.
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>>4467066
>it
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>>4467066
>punches the shit out of cat
>takes moral high ground over trivial pronouns
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>cuddling with cat
>it suddenly puts its asshole on my face
>smells like actual shit
I think the dogfags were right, I probably unironically have toxo now
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>>4467090
RIP in peace. cat shit is noxious. imagine eating the shit of some bodybuilder who chugs raw eggs for breakfast, eats chicken for dinner, and drinks large amounts of creatine protein shakes. that's basically cat shit
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Is it normal for a cat to release its anal glands when it’s really happy? Sometimes I think I smell it, only when it’s extremely happy with me. Like I mean really happy, to the point where it almost seems like it was wants to fuck me or something (it’s nurtured). Or should I get the ass glands checked out by a vet?
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>>4467121
My cat does the same and she is fixed. I think it’s normal
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>>4466659
bachelor chow from futurama lol

it kind of does exist. its canned meats and then like rice and beans and canned veggies or something
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>>4466707
Shit I just pop out the purina and fill it when my cat asks for it but she was the runt and goes indoor/outdoor so has plenty of exercise. It ends up being twice daily anyway. Maybe I just got lucky but my cats getting up there in age and is still a nice healthy weight w. good teeth last time the vet checked.

And that is fucked with your brother but atleast he's taking a bit of care

>>4466710
Yeah sounds like things are looking up, pretty soon she'll be coming out to you for cuddles.

>>4467062
I've usually just reflexively slapped/punched/kicked my kittens when they claw on me, because out of nowhere I was being clawed, but I've never intentionally punched a cat. What did it do

>>4467090
Fuck cat litter and poop, worst part about these things
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>>4467268
>bachelor chow from futurama
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do cats feel love?
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>>4467541
no ultra-strict regimen here, just no infinite food. 2oz dry in the AM, a little wet in the PM, throw a dry oz at a time in the bowl if she bitches. the cat's been eating a lot since she got home and has taken two good shits in the litter box. the second time, i was in the room and started laughing so it freaked her out.

we also had a couple decent bonding sessions. the first, she ate her wet meal in front of me and then went up on my bed. the second, i finally put the dried catnip packet in the scratcher and she got stoned. she let me pet her a bit, then we played with some twine.

she keeps meowing like crazy and then hiding. dunno if she's testing me to see how fast my response time is, or if she's just in heat. either way, i hope to have some good pics for you guys soon. she's very beautiful, with a speckled nose, sleek body, and black whiskers and paws.

i just can't wait until she's acclimated so i can get the fucking litter box in my bathroom where it belongs. it can be shat into a bed of freshest pine and immediately cleaned and disposed in a scented baggie, but it's still fucking disgusting.
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>>4467577
yes
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>>4467272
He do be scrungin
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>>4467577
most forms of familial love yes, definitely
romantic love no, definitely not
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>>4467597
cat love is a lot like, "when i smell this monkey, i trust him and know he'll make me feel good." my family cat most definitely loves me, in the sense that she gives me half a sniff and immediately opens up, like she's obviously happy to see me and grateful that i know and respect all her preferences.
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A relative died, leaving behind a mink coat nobody wanted. Waste not want not! The wire going under the coat is a heat pad
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My neighbors down the road have a barn cat that I've caught in my yard a few times. It comes up to my screened in porch and antagonizes my cat. I finally was able to sneak up on it and give it a good spook today (I have never seen a cat run so fast in my life). Not only do I not want this tramp pissing off my cat but I also don't want it eaten by the foxes that live in my yard. I'm hoping I don't see it again but if I do does anyone know what would be best to traumatize the cat enough to make it feel unsafe near my house? Don't wanna hurt it just want it to not consider my yard it's territory.
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>>4464996
different blood types thing maybe. they all look jaundiced?
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I can't do it. I can't put him down. I understand hes going deaf and slightly blind but I cannot live with myself to end his life. Every struggle hes been theere by my side, I cant end his fucking life. Almost 20 years, Im not god. I love him more than ive ever loved anything in this world. ive spent 10s of thousands of dollars to try and help him recover and Id sell my soul just to let him get better, or even a peaceful death. But the vets say we should put him down but I fucking cant. I've taken time off work to make sure hes ok and feed him and guide him and I cant fucking do it. I cant let him die in a cold fucking operating room. He deserves to go in his sleep and be able to move on the way hes supposed to.

Im a fucking wreck. Without him I wouldnt be alive. I cant leave him and Im on the verge of quitting my job and living off of savings, because I cannot leave him. Every day he waited for me and gave me love and affection through hardships, I cant fucking kill him.

All of you are lucky for your cat passing in their sleep. They were able to move on without pain and suffering. But I cant do it, I cannot live with myself inducing death. Id rather lose everything in my life than take the easy way out and see him die because of my choice. Im broken guys. I cant do it, and no argument will change it. I cant let him die like that. I wont let his fate be chosen by anything but nature.
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>>4467713
I know how it feels. Maybe see if the vet can do a home visit so he can leave in comfort?
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>>4467714
I won't let anyone play executioner. I would rather lose everything I've worked for and watch over him hoping one day he goes peacefully than killing him against his will. I will unironically give everything up so he isn't alone or scared or forced to die.

I am not god and neither is a vet. I will take out loans and put myself in debt if it means he gets the best care possible. I can't let him die without dignity.
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>>4466366
>cat has fucked up teeth because he depends on 100% wet food due to some bladder crystals or some shit
>>4466388
>basically just poulty, fish, organs, and micronutrients with a really high protein/fat content.
>>4466426
>*might* turn into goyslop
>turn into
>>4466579
>I leave a full bowl
>>4466659
ask the guy working the drive thru window to write ORGANIC in fuckhuge letters on the bag before he hands it to you
>>4466707
thread is becoming aneurysm fuel
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I'm switching my cats from a dry & wet food diet to 100% wet food. I think one of my cats has gotten addicted to dry food because of the carbs and she's bloated up. She was a rescue and I gave both the cats proper portion sizes, but I think my orange cat has been chowing down on the wet food, and she's chowing down on the dry food.
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>>4467717
but you also have to consider that letting them live in potential pain is also paying disservice to the animal you love. Honestly it's being quite selfish of you
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>>4467783
cats dont have self pity going blind and deaf doesnt matter to the cat
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>>4465036
That's because cats and dogs are both animals! It's important to remember that they are both part of the same family and should be respected equally.
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>>4467820
>The same family
Yeah, MINE!
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>>4466154 Y
You're completely wrong. Scratching a cat's back isn't the same as getting a massage with a happy ending. it's an act of affection and love. And it can be erotic even if the person doing it is not attractive, it's not just about the looks.
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>>4464973
He cucked
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>>4467822
That's great to hear! What kind of family do you have?
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>>4467829
2 cats, 1 girlfriend, 1 me
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>>4467830
is your gf a dog
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>>4467864
no, i have 0 dogs
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>>4467759
dude it's just legumes and micronutrients. i assume you know how ingredient lists work?
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>>4467759
>collard greens
DAMN, you givin' yo cat some FLAVA
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Just put both my cats to sleep. They were hungry, so they woke up again, but they're now back to sleep.
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>>4467888
checkt, son. i'm bousta cook up sum dat CONE BREAT fo a lil nigga
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>>4467759
>oh no, plants in cat food
Cats are omnivores. Just like you. They "need" meat for some nutrients in nature, without any human intervention, but they can eat up to 100% plant matter and do just fine. Cats can even go vegan if the diet is supported by scientific advancements such as supplements and economic developments such as globally sourced ingredients.
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/cats-thrive-on-vegan-diet-in-peer-reviewed-study/
Just like you! It doesn't take anything from you to stop being cruel to animals.

>inb4 hurr durr human slave labor in farms
They're better off and they chose that life unlike livestock which did not. They can always just work harder.
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the reason i call iams food goyslop, is because it's the exact same thing as McChicken™ Nuggets® but in a different shape
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For me, it's Shackson Jalaxy
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>get kitten desexed and chipped yesterday
>vet said it all went excellent and smooth, no adverse reactions
>tells me how to look after him post-op
>keep cone on while unsupervised, try to keep things calm, feed him slowly and his surgery site will heal in a few days (no sutures)
>get him home
>yesterday and today he's full of fucking beans, running around
>keeps getting the cone off, hates it
>appetite increased ten fold
At least he's not trying to lick the surgery area but jesus christ, I expected him to be tired after surgery
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>>4468285
takes a couple weeks for hormone levels to drop
another anon had theirs still trying to escape the house and smash girls in the neighborhood in the thread a week or two back
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I come to this thread to see VATS. why do disgusting d*g owners feel the need to come in a CAT thread to talk about and post their disgusting creatures from hell. I don't want to see your ugly demon next to your cat. Post cat alone or kill yourself and your stupid baby muncher.
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>>4468357
>not loving all animals
Low test. The only thing related to dogs you should hate are shitbulls. I'm a catfag but dogs (except shitbulls) are great too.
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>>4466744
wtf I have that exact fountain
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trimmed my moustache off my top lip, one kitten saw me trim it and had the flattened back ears and goggled eyes of shock/fear/discomfort
other kitten didnt notice til I took a sip of tea and her eyes bulged as she realized

I guess trimming whiskers is a bit like mutilating a sensory organ to their point of view
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>>4468361
cheapest one at the pet store that didn't look like it'd break in 2 months

>>4468360
based. it's sad that we must specifically exclude pitbulls when talking about dogs. in a perfect world, the government would pay out prize money for every shitbull killed
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>>4468441
>cheapest one at the pet store that didn't look like it'd break in 2 months
Yeah, it's good. We've had ours for about a year and a half and it's still going strong. Both my kitten and older cat love drinking from it too.
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>>4464967
Mine is dumb and sleepy.
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>>4468455
yeah, and the filters are easily replaceable. i just watched my new cat drinking out of it for like 10 minutes straight.

another way to get water into a cat, is to mash a portion of wet food in warm water. my little ingrid (nee tortuga) is part of the clean plate club every dinner.
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>>4464967
baby girl I miss you
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I grew up with a cat. I grew up with Bell. She was like my sister. I wasn't there for her when she died. I was in school. I will never experience that again, I will never experience being close in age and development with a cat ever again
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>>4468462
The cat looks big.
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>>4468629
Its just becuase of the fur on the pic I think. He is 5 kg.
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>>4468651
you have a nice ginger tux cat. that might be a fur.
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>>4466589
All cats are autistic, so yes.
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>>4465007
you should have been aborted or castrated for being such a retard but since you weren't just kill yourself
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>>4467884
>dude it's just legumes
https://www.orijenpetfoods.com/en-US/cats/cat-food/original-entr%C3%A9e-wet-cat-food/ds-wet-cat-food-original.html
4th picture
>and micronutrients.
https://www.orijenpetfoods.com/en-US/orijen-why-faq.html
2nd section
>i assume you know how ingredient lists work?
assume i don't. tell me how ingredient lists work.

>>4467888
>>4467890
>reminding my gloomy grouchy blackpilled arse that levity exists
bix food dup didda were da yt chigginz at? unironically love you bastards, no homo

>>4467893
0/10. jimmy status: unrustled. work on it.
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My new kot

Ragdoll called Autumn
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>>4468372
I can't wait to do this to my cats with my full beard, if ever
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>>4467903
>chicken byproduct
why, specifically, is this a problem?
>processed corn
why, specifically, is this a problem?

>the reason i call iams food goyslop, is because it's the exact same thing as McChicken™ Nuggets® but in a different shape
qualify that statement
>it's the exact same thing
and be exact about that part please

give me some indication it'll be worthwhile to engage. road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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>>4468703
Smooch smooch
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>>4466117
>t. Abusive faggot
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>>4467903
my cat feeds himself on the rabbits he hunts. I supplement his diet with canned food. sorry your cat is cucked
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>>4468703
lovely cat
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>>4467893
>Cats are omnivores
to think they let any old retard on the internet. return that computer from where you stole it jamal
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>>4468685
ingredients are listed by quantity, most => least. i completely fail to see what's wrong with this dry food. my only regret is that i couldn't find the same brand's wet food at the pet store.

>>4468722
chicken by-product only becomes a problem when it displaces muscle and organ meat. otherwise it's decent, but don't assume it necessarily contains good organs like hearts, livers, and gizzards.

processed corn is always a problem. HFCS, maltodextrin, cornstarch, etc., are major drivers of obesity in humans. it's just empty calories, simple sugars that the body stores as adipose tissue (fat) even as you still feel hungry. the fatass problem would be worse for a carnivore regardless of whether the specific product was HFCS or just plain corn flour.

goyim nuggets are essentially a paste of chicken product that's bound by corn product, extruded into a familiar shape, breaded, and flavored with natural and artificial flavors

goyim kibble is essentially a paste of chicken product that's bound by corn product, extruded into a familiar shape, breaded, and flavored with natural and artificial flavors

>>4468735
based. sadly my cat is intact and i live upstairs in an only 80% white city, with plans to move a spayed cat to a house in a 95%+ white suburb
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Why does my cat go fucking nuts when I scratch the base of his tail
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>>4467893
They hated him because he told the truth

Just because an animal in the wild is too stupid and uncivilized to eat a balanced plant based diet with supplements doesn't mean it shouldn't ever eat ethically and is an "obligate carnivore". if it's an obligate carnivore why don't they die on proper vegan diets?
>nooo cats arent vegan because i fed them a bad vegan diet -retards
Killing animals and creating more co2 emissions just to feed a cat is not ok.
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>relaxing next to cat
>cat gives a big stretch, looks extremely content, and then starts kneading my stomach
>I uncontrollably twitch a little because I'm ticklish
>cat gets spooked, jumps up, leaves
>both of our relaxation: shattered
feels bad
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>>4468837
>The study was based on 1,325 owner questionnaires
meaning the "data" backing plant-based cat diet came from malnourished vegan retards
>This recent study is limited by its reliance on owner opinions
>there is currently not enough evidence to suggest that feeding cats a plant-based diet has health benefits for them
>Cats are obligate carnivores, and have very high requirements for proteins and certain amino acids that are mainly found in animal proteins

the abstract:
>Cats, being obligate carnivores, have unique dietary requirements for nutrients most commonly found in dietary ingredients of animal origin. As such, feeding a diet devoid of animal-derived ingredients has been postulated as a possible cause of nutrient imbalances and adverse health outcomes. A small proportion of cat owners feed strictly plant-based diets to the cats in their care, yet the health and wellness of cats fed these diets has not been well documented.

the conclusion summary:
>Cat owner perception of the health and wellness of cats does not appear to be adversely affected by being fed a plant-based diet. Contrary to expectations, owners perceived no body system or disorder to be at particular risk when feeding a plant-based diet to cats. This study collected information from cat owners and is subject to bias, as well as methodological limitations. Further research is warranted to determine if these results are replicable in a prospective investigation.

tl;dr the cats aren't at all "thriving" on a vegan diet
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Anybody got any advice for weaning a litter of 5 week old kittens, the stray mama's gotta go. My main cat I got at 5 week and just popped the milk in front of her and stuck her in a litter box and progressed to soft foods ->hard foods. I've got a few that's drinking from the milk but I think I gotta get rid of mama to wean them and mama is going back to her "owner" that dumped this on me and being taken to the humane society along with the two kittens not spoken for. You think if mom goes it should work out with the milk like it did my first ever kitten? Dipped all their paws in the milk formula and watched a few take a sip
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>>4468961
try to keep the mother and 2 other kittens together with the ones you have til 8 weeks if you can
and try to get the 2 other kittens to go to a kitten rescue instead of a general animal shelter like the humane society
when you lookup the kitten rescue ask them for advice, not /an/
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>looking for objective info on sterilization
>generally in favor of it
>SPAY YOUR HECKIN CATERINO
>MUH UNWANTED LITTERINOS
>MUH BAD BEHAVIOR
>YOU'RE POOR AND STUPID
>IT'S YOUR MORAL DUTY
>"""FIXED"""
so i'm thinking the best thing do to is just wait and see, rather than rush to mutilate my cat's reproductive system and ruin its endocrine system based on the propaganda of psycho cat ladies (sons circumcised) and the rescue shelter industry
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>>4469184
Un-neutered cats can be cunts sometimes
That's pretty much the only measurable advantage I've seen to neutering.
I haven't heard any real reason for spaying.
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>>4469191
i've done some research into it. the only real benefit to spaying i can find is a substantial and exponentially decreasing relative risk reduction in breast cancer, that makes the operation pointless from a cancer-reducing standpoint essentially pointless after a year or two.

the best course of action is obviously to let my cat go into heat a few times and see if i can really live with a horny cat. i actually think she was just in heat, she kept yowling like crazy, but it might have been acclimation stress / testing my response time to measure my trustworthiness.

that and have a good chat with a specialty reproductive vet, ignoring all the autistic screeching online. the lady who sold me the cat didn't seem to care much about spaying one way or the other because it's indoors, and she raised the cat for a year.

ameritards are just obsessed with mutilating sex organs. my brother posted a pic of his cat online with its little nutsack, and some facebook women started reeeeeeee'ing like mad
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>>4469201
I can't imagine spaying just because they meow a lot. My current cat yowls like a motherfucker and he's a neutered shelter runt (he was neutered before I got him)
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>>4469206
that's my point, it just seems cruel and insane to mutilate an animal because you think it'll be less annoying.

i want to look into the disease vectors of this really serious uterine bacteria that can happen to cats. if it's spread by dirty litter as i suspect, i work from home and clean that shit ASAP cuz i don't want my apartment to become a toxo-infested stinking shithole

as far as the cat escaping when it's in heat, there aren't even any direct paths outdoors at my place. it's not like i open the door and it's outside. there's a foyer/staircase area

i wanna monitor her closely over time and see firsthand. if it becomes apparent that she's in serious repeated discomfort, or if she develops any reproductive health issues, it's time to spay
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>>4464967
How calm should a 3 week old kitten be? I was looking at a litter of three to buy one later. One was very chatty and meowed the most. One was mildly chatty and meowed half as much. One was very calm and only meowed once when I held him. He was noted to be smaller than the chatty one.

Is the one that meows the most the healthiest? I liked how calm the one was but on the other hand it might mean something bad.
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>>4467713
Is he only going deaf and blind? Why is the vet saying he should be put down instead of telling you you should be saving your money for his inevitable future problems?
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What breed is this guy?
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>>4469233
at 3 weeks old they're not developed enough to make any judgement and there's no guarantee they're going to survive to 8 weeks for adoption

half of a cat's personality is based on how much good their life is after separation from their mother anyway
just get two littermate kittens of the same gender, that way most unintended neglect shy of legitimate abuse wont cause serious problems long term
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>>4469214
followup: my cat may well be in heat. she just let me pet her a lot and was rolling around like crazy and shoving her ass at me with the tail placed out of the way. i'm almost definitely not gonna alter her unless there's a legitimate medical need.
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>>4469315
if you're asking because you dont know then British Longhair would be your go-to "my cat is definitely not a moggy" answer to pretend it's not just a mystery domestic longhair of no notable lineage
if you're trying to quiz people on breed identification then kys
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>>4469323
I've always spayed so no clue if it's true but I remember from either an ancient greentext or an ancient thread that ear cleaning q-tips are the right size to masturbate them if you get pushed to the breaking point that you're willing to sacrifice your pride like that so they shut the fuck up
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>>4469328
haha i read that too. she was so sweet, i felt like she would have let me finger her had i cared to try
>you just know
but seriously, i think it really traumatizes them, beyond making them more lethargic (a symptom of trauma). my family cat is spayed and she's a loved one, but when she gives me her tummy, if i accidentally brush a finger anywhere near the vagina, she closes up immediately and doesn't want to be pet any more

she's already at or around the point where reduced breast cancer risk is irrelevant (11% *relative* risk reduction if spayed between 1-2 years old, compared to like like 96% if done immediately after the 1st heat). so it really just makes sense to wait and see, consult with an expert, and research the potential risks

https://www.petmd.com/cat/conditions/reproductive/signs-pyometra-cats
pyometra worries me quite a bit. the only treatment seems to let the cat give birth or spay it. it's not just a simple dirty litter box issue as i assumed, but due to a vulnerability introduced by multiple heat cycles on a barren womb
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>>4469324
I genuinely don’t know what he is. I’m assuming he’s a mutt of sorts but I figured people here would know.
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Adopted her about a month ago.

She's about six months old.

Super energetic and loves to jump and pounce.

Any ideas on breeds or is she just a generic longhair mix?
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>>4469410
Forgot to add she weighs about 6 lbs currently (was about 5lbs when I adopted her) and is very affectionate and friendly towards strangers for a tortie.
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>>4469315
How big is he?

What's his temperament like?

Any unique behaviors?

Can't even begin to speculate what breed(s) he is until we know more.
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>>4469419
>>4469419
Sometimes she sleeps like this for some reason.
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>>4468701
Based kot
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>>4469410
>>4469419
>>4469422
she looks to be a maine coon mutt. my grammie used to be a "cat fancier." the fur length, general colors, and long ear hair suggests some coon admixture

got another decent pic of my most wonderful ingrid kot. it's nice how having a pet around calms the mood and nourishes the soul
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>>4469457
hmm, gotta figure out my modded dSLR situation. or learn infrared post-processing better. either way, your cat is prolly a coon tabby, anon. she sounds kinda big and social, which is very coon-like
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My cat is good on a leash but he just wants to eat grass until he throws up instead of explore. He just ends up pissed off that I won't let him chew on everything in sight. I wonder if I should keep trying or just give up on outside time?
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>>4469457
>>4469465
Interesting since my last kot (picrel) was also a Maine Coon mix.

20% Coon, 25% Korat and the rest random mutt confirmed by genetic test.

I miss this lorge derpy ass nibba like you wouldn't believe.
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>>4469500
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>>4469502
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>>4468701
itoddlers btfo
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Is it normal for a former wild cats (adopted one from the shelter) to never properly meow?
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>>4469214
>that's my point, it just seems cruel and insane to mutilate an animal because you think it'll be less annoying.
It's not that, the cat will try to get out more which is not only bad for the cat but everything around it. You don't let your dog out to wreak havoc, it will be happier spayed not having to climb the walls looking for a fuck and possibly getting hit by a car or psycho and contributing to the problem of strays and the almost endless supply of kittens and cats being killed in shelters. Basically every respectable cat authority is in favour of spaying and its not just for the owners convenience. Seriously just get it fucking spayed, its not mutilation stop applying how we'd feel to the cat
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>>4469214
Forcing your cat to stay inside on heat is worse than "mutilating it"
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Having trouble getting my 11 week old kitten to eat. Was told to give him half a can 3 times a day
>won’t eat half a can at once, gets distracted and does something else mid eating
>almost never comes back for the food, other cats eat it
>won’t eat unless someone stands near him
>won’t eat out dry food of his own food bowl anymore
>won’t eat dry food if it’s on a plate either
>only eats small bits of dry food if I take it out of the bowl and put it on the table
>runs to eat the other adult cats wet food
What do? He’s scrawny but seems otherwise healthy and energetic
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>>4469528
Feed him separately from your other cats. If he's the smallest one your other cats probably have been taking his food by force when you're not around.

He's probably hypervigilant about guarding his food from the other cats if he won't eat unless you stand near him and gets distracted mid-eating and won't come back to finish it.
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>>4469420
He’s very average sized. He has a relaxed personality. I figure he’s a mutt but I thought maybe someone here would know for sure.
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>>4468836
It's a sensitive area. One of my cats starts licking the air when I do it. It triggers an automatic response.
>>4469485
How long have you been taking him outside for walks? If he is still new to this activity , he might be overstimulated by the sight and the smell of the plants. Pay attention to the grass he eats, not everything is safe for them.
>>4469517
Yes. Some cats are talkative, some rarely meow.
>>4469528
Kittens usually devour whatever food you put in front of them. Has he been visited by a vet?
I don't know how many cats you have, but separate them when they eat. Don't let him get distracted.
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>>4465872
Why you obsessed with dogs
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>>4466295
Putbull owners deserve to be shot.
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I've never had a cat before. If I adopted one, would it be lonely by itself when I go to work? Should I get two?
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>>4469667
Not necessarily. However cats need some hours of interactions with you every day if you dont want them to become apathetic and lazy, and they can soffer from loneliness.
If you get two, preferably take a pair of bonded cats (like siblings) or cats that were previously tested with other cats and get along with each other.
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>>4469500
well they both look like very wonderful cats. coons tend to be big and derpy. sounds like you had many wonderful years with the grey one

how are those genetic tests btw? do they give info on heritable diseases/genetic health, or just breed?

>>4469523
stop acting like i'm black. "muh dead kittens in shelters" is such a hypothetical problem and it's also not my problem. if anything, it's the shelters' fault for not adopting cats to qualified owners, for arbitrary and autistic reasons. besides, if there are indeed so many strays, they'll reproduce regardless of whether an individual indoor cat is spayed or not.

i've already said i'm generally in favor of it, but not keen to rush out and mutilate it at the drop of a hat. one of the indications is that she's repeatedly in a lot of discomfort/distress. another indication is the actual risk of pyometra. i have a specialty reproductive vet lined up to discuss all this with an educated professional. what i really want to know is whether inducing false pregnancy with a sterile swab every 6 months or so will prevent/lessen cystic uterine wall thickening

spaying may well be the best course of action in the long run, but at this moment, i can't see any possible benefit to permanently ruining the endocrine system of a perfectly healthy young cat
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I need to get something off my chest.

Both my cats died last year. One cat I had for twenty years.

I adopted two new cats, at different times. I wasn't able to pick either of them. I went into the shelter with my boyfriend and he liked this one cat and basically pulled me away from meeting all the other cats to see this one. We ended up taking it. That cat is okay, it took several weeks to come out of the bedroom but he's friendly, sits on the couch with you and is generally good.

After a few months we wanted to get another cat for the first one. I was told by my boyfriend that this time I can pick the cat. I went through all the rooms in the shelter and none of the cats clicked with me. (It took me an entire day and several shelters to find my first cat of twenty years.) I was okay leaving empty handed but then the shelter told us of some feral kittens and since we adopted from them before, we were ok'd to see the kittens. Of course my boyfriend falls in love with the one feral kitten. We ended up taking her home. They estimated she was about six/seven months.

The two cats get along wonderfully.

But she's not friendly at all. She constantly runs away from us, she doesn't sit on the couch with us, doesn't do anything. Just does stuff with the other cat.

I'm absolutely heart broken. I loved my other cats so much and loved that they would sit on my lap and purr and follow me around the house. We've had the other cat for just over a year and the kitten seven months. I wish I was able to pick out my own cat that connected with me but now I'm stuck with a kitten that hates me and another cat that's somewhat friendly but doesn't follow me and doesn't sit on my lap for petting. I wish so much that my boyfriend let me pick out a cat that liked me and connected with me. Now I'm stuck with these and I can't and won't get a third and giving them back is out of the question. I feel so empty.
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>>4469687
It took me years to get my shelter runt to open up to me. I don't know if he was abused or what but he was truly terrified of everything that moved or made noise, barely let himself be held, kept his distance from everyone
I was consistently kind and gently with him, and now he willingly hops onto my lap and kneads my stomach purring like crazy while I watch stuff on my couch
Lately he's gotten into jumping on my bed to snuggle next to me purring
Not trying to say you fucked up in how you handled it nor that results like mine are even possible
But you need to be pretty dedicated and consistent if you want them to warm up to you, it doesn't happen overnight or even after a number of months with some cats. Just keep working at it.
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>>4469721
especially females. i forget how long it took for my family cat (calico) to really trust me. probably at least several months, maybe a year. she doesn't sit on my lap, but she does give me her belly and lets me hold her paws.

it may be possible to train the kitten to sit on femanon's lap by offering wet food on a spoon, held in such a way that the kitten must step to reach it. it's also likely that the kitten simply doesn't enjoy the same activities as the old cat.

the main thing is to fall in line with what the cat enjoys, which includes respecting their wishes. a cat is more likely to open up if you stop petting it and walk away if it indicates you're annoying it.
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>>4469733
>lets me hold her paws
very based
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>>4469721
My previous two cats were also strays. They were both about one years old. I also had another cat inbetween that was older and had a tragic past and was feral, bit and scratched, but became very cuddly within a few months. She passed away due to medical issues.

The kitten has lots of toys we play with her. She has all the treats and food she could want. Several nice cat beds and a tree. Windows and a safe patio to go out.

I'm just sad because I wasn't able to pick a cat that I bonded with. My boyfriend likes cats but not like me. I feed them, scoop the litter and do any other care they need like nail trims and brushing (just the older cat). He plays with them but it's more of an afterthought. I just wish I had the opportunity to pick out a cat that connected with me but now I'm stuck with two indifferent cats and I feel guilty knowing that I would have likely 100% chosen different cats. And even more guilt since both cats love each other so much.

I miss my old cat. He would sleep with me under the covers. He would meow and talk with me. He'd touch my face and my arm when he wanted to be petted. I knew when he was sick right away and would take him to the vet because I just knew. He knew when I was sad and would comfort me. I'm crying right now because I miss him so much and neither cat cares. My other cat that passed had a morning routine of waking me up and walking down the stairs and needing to be held before eating breakfast. I miss that so much. Now both are just ash. The kitten just hides and runs away.

Thanks for listening.
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>>4469733
>it may be possible to train the kitten to sit on femanon's lap by offering wet food on a spoon, held in such a way that the kitten must step to reach it. it's also likely that the kitten simply doesn't enjoy the same activities as the old cat.

I tried that. She's too smart and we never starve her to make her do it. She never liked coming near us and won't even go near the food dishes if we're near. She just runs. I pet, brush, cuddle and kiss the other cat and she can see it but she doesn't care.

I watch cat rescue videos and they always say there's a socialization window of up to three months old. The shelter didn't get her until 6/7 months old. She's now just over on year old. I feel so guilty because she can't help it and the other cat loves her so much but I would have chosen a different cat, one that actually liked me. The other cat let us pet him in the shelter and was friendly even though he was very scared.
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>>4469756
the trick is to gentle stimulate the whiskers on top of the paw, and to let the cat withdraw it at any time

>>4469758
>>4469766
just take it slowly and give it time. it's a lot like romancing a woman. you'll always do more harm by smothering it, and often the best course of action is to ignore it and let it come to you. some interior design youtuber with an amazing ass said it best: "is there anything hotter than a guy not talking to you?"

hell, my new cat is acclimating really well. she's already gotten comfy in the whole apartment and let me pet her multiple times after like 3 days, when the conventional wisdom is to confine them to a room and let them hide for a week.

she still sleeps under my bed in an inaccessible spot, and often runs no matter how slowly i approach her, but that's fine. as long as i don't force it, and give her lots of attention only when she's receptive to it, the span of receptive time will slowly increase.

a lot depends on the early breeding, especially mother cat time and human socialization, but it's not like a wild cat will never warm up to a human. it'll be shorter bonding sessions spread out over a longer period of time.
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Rest in peace my good friend
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>>4469794
Hitlerina?
Are you for real? She died?
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I'm the anon with the (supposed) IBD, he's been sick again since Monday. I'll take him to the vet in an hour... please wish him good luck. I hope he doesn't have to be hospitalized again.
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>>4469800
*with the (supposed) IBD cat
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>>4469798
No wtf she's resting
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>>4469827
clean your wall holy shit
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>>4469827
>catfags live like this
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finally moved all my cat stuff out of my bedroom. i did one item per day so she could find it and use it. starting with the litter, cuz that shit is disgusting.
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>>4469845
dunno about the scratching area. i might move it around and see where she uses it the most, before i fix it with command strips
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>>4469848
small pantry area. gotta figure out a better solution for bulk food.
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>>4469772
>hell, my new cat is acclimating really well. she's already gotten comfy in the whole apartment and let me pet her multiple times after like 3 days, when the conventional wisdom is to confine them to a room and let them hide for a week.

We only confined her for the one night since we didn't know how the older cat would react. Once we knew they'd be fine together, we let her out and she's had full access to the house since. She has no issues jumping on the table (thankfully not the counter top), and goes onto the various beds and couches. The older cat took forever to get used to being on the couch and never goes onto our bed, but the beds in the spare rooms. She acted like my old cat, as if the house was his and settled in right away. However, she does not like us.

She is a stray orange tabby caught in the woods by a farm. They trapped her siblings but did not capture mother, probably mother died. There was a friendly brother but we weren't sure how the older cat would take it, so opted not to adopt it but then went with the reclusive more feral sister.

It just sucks. It's bitter sweet. The house felt so utterly empty without my old cats and now we have two more cats and the house still feels empty. Even though the shelter will take back cats no questions, they're not ill fitting clothes, but living beings with emotions and doing so is not an option. I feel like the next twenty years I'll have cats but not "cats".
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>>4469845
That's the litter I use too. I really like it.
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>>4469856
just give it time and patience. every day, give the kitten a lot of attention when she lets you, then stop. just do that day after day and she'll learn that you respect her boundaries. it really just sounds like you're smothering the kitten and expecting too much, which is counterproductive.

>>4469858
yeah i'm thrilled that she took a big steaming shit in the pine litter without issue. cats can be really obnoxious about that, and i know for a fact that she'd never used pine pellets before. it's great having cat litter that i can also grow lion's mane mushrooms on.
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>>4469863
Maybe. When I wake up and go to bed, I always pet the older cat (he either comes into the bedroom or by the couch) and try to pet the kitten. I really only try to pet her if she's in specific spots, maybe a couple of times a day but perhaps that's too much. I'm ignoring her today, I'm just too exhausted about the issue.

>>4469863
Oh, I thought it was the Oko cat litter. It doesn't have a pine smell. Luckily none of my cats ever had issues with different litters. Not a battle I'd want to partake in.
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>>4469867
yeah it's fine. my cat is hiding under my bed (really, curled up and sleeping peacefully). i'd love her to be on top of the bed, but i don't force it. i pop in every 45 minutes or so and talk to her for a couple minutes, then leave.

the litter is called "feline pine," which incidentally is one of the things that may disqualify you in the eyes of autistic shelter freaks. because no cat in history has ever stepped on something that may or may not be slightly uncomfortable.
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>>4469873
also, stupid question: you're letting the kitten smell your hand before trying to pet it, right? and not coming from above?
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>>4469873
The shelter we got both cats from uses the pine, like you have. When I went to adopt the less old cat that passed they wouldn't adopt if we used clay since it can gunk up their insides if they ingest too much. I used to use World's Best but the Oko is cheaper, better at holding smells and tracks less.

And yeah, she sees our hands. Almost all the time I pet the older one first and try to pet her the same (usually from the side) but she just walks/runs away. She might eat treats from hands but usually not and just keeps her distance. The older one was afraid of being picked up and very scared of faces but he's not anymore. It took several weeks but now we trip over him often instead of him being wary.

I've had dozens of cats (I grew up on a farm) and never had a cat, female or otherwise, not warm up after a few weeks, let alone several months. It's very disheartening and I don't want the next twenty years to be like this. If she was sick, I wouldn't be able to put her in the carrier. I wouldn't even know if she was sick unless there were obvious signs. She has chin acne that I can't clean because she won't let me. (We use ceramic dishes, not plastic.) I had my arm ripped to shreds and bitten several times trying to get her into the carrier for her spay. It just feels hopeless and empty and makes me miss my other cats and prevents closure of their loss.

Anyways, thank you for listening.
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how do i deal with having one of our cats put down we got the news 2 days ago abd i can barely even process it i dont want to see her go
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>>4469886
That's a question everyone has to find the answer to individually, I'm afraid. At the very least you should try to fill the time leading up to it with their favorite things and show them as much love as possible. It's not going to be easy on you, but watching them suffer and decline in function on their way to a natural death wouldn't be either. It will take time to heal from the loss, but if it's in their best interest, it's the right thing to do.
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>>4469883
hmm, it might be a smells issue. the kitten may simply need something that's exclusively hers, some cloth items that only she rubs against. if it's not boundaries or smells, i dunno what else it could be. timid temperament?

>>4469886
whenever i remember my old cats, or that my current cat will die, i think of how important it is to love them. time spent loving an animal is some of the most important stuff for the soul and your relationship with god. i think we domesticated them in the first place because they fill an innate biological or spiritual need. similar to how people are happier with regular exposure to nature.
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>>4469687
feral at 8-12 weeks will eventually become a domestic cat in a good home with proper care
feral at 6+ months might become a human trusting street cat eventually but a shelter offering them as rescues is just trying to avoid putting them down after desexing, with the expectation that eventually the feral will get outside and only return "home" for emergency food and shelter from extreme weather

sadly you have adopted a lost cause, she may come to love and trust you eventually but she will never be a pet
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Why does my cat turn into Rambo whenever I change the bed sheets?
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My kot is very cute, and definitely the jealous and clingy type. I love her so much. I'm thinking of getting another cat though so she has some company. What would be the best way to introduce her to a friend? She's lived in a multi-cat household thanks to her previous owner, but since it's been a long time with her being the only cat I wonder if it would be difficult introducing a friend.
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>>4469680
Unfortunately the grey one passed away only about 10 months after I adopted him. Feline HCM is a fuck :(

Shelter said he was about four years old but the vet suspected he was older. At least it looks like he went quickly and quietly based on how I found him, didn't have to make the hard choice to put him down.

The Basepaws test I did for him seemed pretty accurate.

The one I did had breed, health risks and oral health included for about $100 on special.

Cat breeding and genetics hasn't been as extensively studied as dogs or humans though so YMMV, especially with a very generic mutt that has no obvious breed traits. They do keep adding more info to your report and updating it as they get more/better data in so you only have to do it one time per cat.
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>>4469589
Pretty new, but I got him a better harness now so I plan on taking him out more. He is kinda of just obsessed with grass (eating in general desu) and I've caught him trying to eat stuff like green onion and society garlic... He'll go for anything grass-like, which includes some lilies so I redirect him a lot which makes him so mad sometimes he just gives up walking and lays down. And I do give him cat grass but he will also just eat so much of that he throws up if given unlimited access to it.
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>>4468703
very smol
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>>4468285
If its a male cat you can honestly leave the cone off unless he's fussing with it.
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>>4470204
ouch, that's rough. my first cat had, who was 5 years older than me, to be euthanized due to a heart condition. i forget the details but it was enlarged in some very painful way.

my very own cat is a tortoiseshell, who are by definition mutts. i personally don't care about breed beyond basic shit like "orange" or "calico," but it'd be nice to have an idea of possible health issues down the line.

$100 is about what i'm willing to spend on such a test, maybe $150. these kinds of at-home kits are pretty cool despite their limitations. hell, i remember when uBiome existed and you could just email them and tell them you want an illumina miseq raw read of a kombucha SCOBY, instead of their armpit/genital/oral swipes

>>4470226
i think cats eat grass to clean their teeth. more importantly, how do you get the harness on him? my family cat uses a harness to go outside after she got sick wandering. my mother somehow gets it on her, but i just let her freeball and she never runs away from me.
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i just wanna say, i love my cat. there's something inexpressibly comforting about having a little padding, crunching, scratching, purring, and meowing creature exist in my general vicinity.
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>>4470204
Shelters will say literally any adult cat that isn't visibly ancient is "around 4"
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>>4470348
TOXOED
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>>4469894
>>4469899
sorry i went to sleep. i dont really have anything to say, thanks for the responses either way
im gonna miss her so much she's the kindest and friendliest soul ive ever known and ghe softest cat ive ever had the pleasure to touch
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cats are pretty cool
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>>4470345
It was the best outcome I could have hoped for given the circumstances honestly. I only found out about his condition and that he didn't have much time left about two months before he passed.

I have no regrets knowing that I gave him teh bes possible life until the very end.

"The body was far smaller than the heart it had held."
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>>4470439
nice cat
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In a month it’ll be one year since my little lady past away. I regret being a coward and not being with her in her final moments, but I also know that seeing her die would have absolutely destroyed me.
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>>4469802
He is at home now, got a cortisone shot at the vet and they gave me a new supplement to fix the diarrhea problem. He's doing slightly better today, he has eaten at least.
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>>4470548
also a few days after she died, I got an ad on youtube for idk some bank. But it showed a cat having a party for being cancer free…
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>>4470345
He does have gingivitis but I am brushing his teeth daily to try and help that. He has a pretty bad tooth and the vet wants me to get this teeth cleaned sometime this year but I know that's rough for kitties because he as to go under sedation. He's had to lose a lot of weight since I adopted him so his first instinct with a lot of things is if he can eat it... I'm inclined think he just likes eating grass along with anything else he can get his fat little paws on but you could be right.

He is an exceptionally tolerant cat so he doesn't really like when I have to pull his new escape proof harness over his head but he will forgive me for it a second later. As long as you aren't hurting (and are not a dog) him he will let you do anything. There are harness types that you don't pull over their head and instead clip in the front which I think are easier for less patient cats. I'm much too paranoid to let mine out without a harness and wouldn't risk it. He was in pretty bad condition when I adopted him as a "stray" and was obviously a spoiled housecat for some years of his life so I don't think he does well out in the wild.



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