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>Oenpelli edition
cont. from: >>4446069
This thread is dedicated to all animals of the reptilia and amphibia classes. Topics include, but are not limited to: geckos, snakes of all kinds, frogs, salamanders, newts, turtles, tortoises, and much more. Before asking a question, do a search on the internet to see if it has been answered
Classifieds for finding breeders and products:
>morphmarket.com
>kingsnake.com
>faunaclassifieds.com
>reptilescanada.com (Canadian breeders)
>caudata.org
Most forums will have a "for sale" section on them, so look for that, especially if you have a specific herp you want. Craigslist can also be a good source for cheap aquariums, and make sure to check for any reptile expos that occur in your area.

When asking a question, make sure to include these details:
>Type and size of animal
>Enclosure dimensions
>Humidity and temperature
>Type of substrate
>The decor you use
>How often you feed
>The type of food you use
>If your animal is wild caught or captive bred
>How often you handle
>Who you bought the animal from

Other Helpful Resources
www.blackjungleterrariumsupply.com
www.joshsfrogs.com
http://www.reptilesmagazine.com
http://www.anapsid.org
http://www.hylid.clara.co.uk/caer.htm
https://www.americanmadeexotics.com/breeding-ball-pythons-article.html
http://blogs.thatpetplace.com/thatreptileblog/
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Whatever happened to the short tailed python anons? I’ve developed a fondness of the fate stumpy python trio
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After 1,5 years my boy (ball python refused a meal for the first time.
How long do I wait before retry?
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>>4462999
Male? Very common for around that age, they want to fuck, not eat
If you have another snake offer their meal to him first, he'll likely refuse but doesn't hurt to try. If you don't have another snake, try when he seems really interested. Be prepared it could be up to six months though and your snake will be fine.
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The next poster is a leachianus gecko IRL.
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Rhacodactylus trachyrhynchus are FUCKING CRINGE
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>>4463114
Be quiet Leachie they are CUTE
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>>4462744
The lamp is too far away obviously
>>4463024
No it's just the one factor lol
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There used to be an anon here with a bioactive boa enclosure, is he still around? i just want to see how his set up looked
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>>4462943
I haven't had a confirmed sitting of Sumatra anon in a bit. Other anon that had a couple hasn't posted in a long time. There might have been another one.
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>>4463242
Boa anon better be around. He was gonna breed plasmas
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Would a western hognose be a decent starter reptile?
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>>4463610
Yea pretty decent
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>>4463610
Maybe? you might get a little bored with them since they're not as active a critter as say a beardie, and they like to DIG so even when they're doing stuff you might not see them.
they also apparently get kinda pissy in adolescence, and territorially defensive. you're going to want to set aside like at least 30 minutes every day to just hang out with them, even if its just you putting your hand in the enclosure and letting them realize you're not trying to kill them, and from there get used to you doing maintenance, and then keep that up.
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>>4463610
Reminder that Western Hognoses gave nasty poop
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My son bothers me for almost a year now, should I cave in and give him a Bearded Dragon? Or will it be impossible for a 12 year old and me and my wife will do all the petkeeping?
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>>4463881
>Or will it be impossible for a 12 year old and me and my wife will do all the petkeeping?
Its certainly not impossible but that depends on how you are as a parent. Beardie care is pretty easy, nothing that a 12 yr old couldn't handle.
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>>4463881
Outside of taking to the vet, a 12 y/o should absolutely be capable of taking care of a beardie. Help him design and build the enclosure, make sure he understands what he needs to do, but honestly an interested kid could do most of it by 6 or 7, it's a matter of responsibility and motivation.

t. Had herps as a kid and did everything but physically moving enclosures for brumation by age 8
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>>4463881
Make it a project. Look up the information for a care guide with him, and have him outline one for himself, along with chores that will need to be done daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly.
That way he'll know exactly what needs to be done to keep the animal (and whether or not he actually wants to do that), and gives him a standard that he set himself that he needs to stick with.
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I think my beardie talks to me
>makes noise when I sleep in to demand lamp
>hisses when I turn off lamp early because I have to go somewhere
>looks at me then empty food bowl like "wtf"
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>>4463610
Depends what you're looking for in a starter. They're small, cute, and fairly hardy, and if you get one well started on mice already they're decent eaters.

But they have nasty shits and a much less chill attitude than a ball python or corn snake. They can be brats who puff and hiss and bluff strike, and that can be intimidating for new keepers. They also are technically venomous, but they have to chew on you to inject venom. The effect has been described as a beesting but the potential for you specifically to be allergic is there.
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>>4463980
You should get a timer for your lamp. They're cheap and work well.
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>>4463985
NTA but are there any beginner-level egg eating snakes? Not feeding mammals to reptiles, sorry lizard-people or w/e dogwhistle is used for small hats these days.
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>>4464111
checked and true
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>>4464131
The hard part is sourcing the eggs
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>>4464195
Can you not just buy an adult and give them chicken eggs? Or at least quail?

Alternatively, any good insect eating snakes that aren't Garters/Ribbons?
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>>4464203
rough green snake
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>>4464205
Oh my God it's adorable. QRD, it is basically a green garter without the musk?

I'm promise I'm not a rackfag or horder, I'd build it a nice bioactive and read it stories and everything.
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>>4462943
I posted mine after he took a massive shit last month. I'll try to get a good picture of him soon for you. Have you considered getting your own? I know they can be hard to find in stores at least in my area.

>>4463605
Was that the anon with the Sumatra that completely mogged that Burm? That was an absolute giga chad snake.
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>>4464209
>arboreal
>diurnal
>needs it warm and humid with UV basking spot and heat gradient in the tank
>adults need 2-3x a week feeding, and the insects sometimes need to be dusted with vitamin powder
>should not be handled often
>possible to keep in groups in big, well-structured tanks
They're more demanding than the effortless beginner snakes, but in a properly maintained naturalistic tank they could be a very interesting species to keep.
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>>4464241
Shit that sounds awesome. How big does it need? Would a 36x12x24" be large enough for one, assuming it's slammed full of sturdy plants, cork, "vined" wood, etc?
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>>4464246
at least 32" height would be good, and some more width, that tank is kinda narrow.
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>>4464209
Garteranon here, if its the musk youre worried about dont be, its pretty minimal. Mine hadnt musked for something like the first year of their lives, and even then stopped after I upped my handling frequency. My sick one even stopped musking the vet once I convinced them to let me take her out of the transport tote instead of barging in and necking her themselves.
You'll also have a much easier time handling garterns than greens, and you'll actually be able to FIND captive bred garters.
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>>4464236
>Was that the anon with the Sumatra that completely mogged that Burm?
Yea probably. I dont know of any others.
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Need a 4x2x2 enclosure and nobody sells one nearby. (Small city) Gonna build one myself. The guy at the industrial plastic shop recommended HDPE and said 1/4" thickness will be more than enough but I'm not convinced. I was originally thinking 1/2" to 3/4" but he said it would be overkill. Guy had a ton of knowledge so I'm inclined to believe him but I'm curious what you guys think, will 1/4" be enough?
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>>4464524
Dubiaroaches.com can't work for you?
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Will silicone adhere metal to its walls? I want the branches in an enclosure to be removable, so brackets seems like the way to go, but I'd rather not damage the pvc walls with screw holes. If silicone could adhere the brackets to the wall strong enough that those brackets can then support a branch, that'd be awesome.
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>>4464555
Get urethane construction adhesive.
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Getting a month-old ackie in a few days and done lots of required reading. What can anyone tell me what to/not to do
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>>4464586
can you expand on that?
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>>4464664
What's your planned setup, feeders, etc.? Would probably be easier to point out possible mistakes than throwing out random monitor keeping trivia that you have likely come across already if you've done proper research.
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>>4464677
4x2x2 melamine enclosure, climbable rock background, crickets gutloaded with assorted vegetables, stacked plywood w/spacers, probably use a mercury vapor bulb and aim to get a surface as close to 70 celsius as possible, red sand/mulch mix to hold burrowed form, and a moist digging corner either in a tub or piled up behind a rock "dam"
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>>4464686
If youre getting him in a few days you should already have your enclosure set up and the temps dialed in. You dont want to end up with insufficient heating or something wrong with the enclosure and have nowhere to out your animal while you fix it.
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>>4464689
I have 5 other reptiles and I work with several ackies. If I make an error the margin wont be significant
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>>4464664
Give it like a foot of substrate
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>>4462874
Once and for all, what in the best substrate for (adult) Horsfield and Hermann's tortoises? I'm upgrading their indoor winter/bad-weather enclosures and want to go bioactive (so something I don't need to shovel out and replace regularly and can hold plants and deal with their shit and piss to some extent when they piss and shit while I'm at work).
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>>4464664
When it sheds, pay attention that none of it remains stuck on the toes. Ackies losing toes is a common problem.
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I fed him crickets last night so i think he is rewarding me by sleeping on the glass and showing his tummy.
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>>4464897
what do you normally feed him? also cute tummy.
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>>4464898
normally just crested gecko diet. he prefers pangea but im trying to make him eat repashy too so he doesnt get too picky.
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>>4464131
>Beginner level
No.
>Egg eating snakes
Yes, do you have regular access to songbird or finch eggs?
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>>4464131
If youre going to prioritize an animal thats basically nature's popcorn chicken over a reptile simply because it has tits, you probably shouldnt keep reptiles.
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>>4464897
MODS
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Anyone here has experience with leopard geckos?
Mine has had for a while swollen neck.
It's like when fat people have double or triple chin.
He is perfectly healthy, not obese, active, has appetite so I'm wondering If I should be worried.
He also has bumps behind his front legs but I've found that that's normal, calcium pouch.
https://www.reptileforums.co.uk/threads/leopard-gecko-with-a-cyst-on-its-neck.240564/
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>>4464672
Google Urethane Construction Adhesive. It’s animal safe if you don’t get one that says things like “Mildew Resistant” or whatever, and it sticks to plastic and painted metal way better than silicone.
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>cut the rats brain open
>put vanilla on the rats head
how legit are those snake feeding tips I found on youtube?
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>>4465065
Braining is an actual think. Vanilla sounds like some weird nonsense
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Would either of these be good for a small tortoise?
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>>4465225
Or this?
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>>4465228
>>4465225
They apparently dont go for fenugreek normally, and those might be a choking hazard. Flower stick might be a winner though.
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>>4465231
Thanks for the heads-up. My Walmart doesnt got any tortoise food
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>>4465065
braining works, can confirm
never heard that vanilla trick, never had a snake react to the smella vanilla, and can't imagine why it would work, but if braining doesn't work I guess you can give it a shot
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>>4465235
Yeah it does. Go to the produce area of the grocery department.
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>brian selling his colubrid breeders because of cancer
Is this good or a marketing scheme?
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>>4465247
Maybe he can cure his cancer by shoving himself in a 5ftx5ft box with water and have someone occasionally throw him a sandwich. He probably stressed because he was overstimulated in his larger environment. Brians are naturally found in trash heaps and repurposed crack houses.
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>>4465245
Good point, my good man. He has plenty of fresh grass to eat. I will pick up some romaine or iceberg next time I go. I'm sure theres a head of cabbage in the fridge for him. Just wanted to give him some more variety. He does love clovers, its flowers, and the winter grass
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>>4465060
Do you know what kind of weight brackets adhered with this can support?
The other thing is I know you can scrape silicone off pretty easily if you wanted to completely redo an enclosure, but can you scrape this off?
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>>4465340
Stick to more nutritional things. Romaine and Iceberg are basically just water. Personally I feed mine Pak Choy, Dandelions, Lamb's Lettuce, Frisee Endive, and Radicchio Chicory (the last 3 come in bags called "Crispy" at my local supermarket). Look out for salad leaf mixes and compare with info on The Tortoise Table; it's cheaper and healthier.
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>>4465370
He eats the a fair amount of dandelions, weeds, cactus, and salad mix, heads of romaine, avocado skins, onions, celery, carrots, and a ton of other vegetable scraps. He eats a ton in general and his poops are usually bigger than his head. Sometimes double in size. I tried giving him lemon peels and slices, but never liked them. Hes just enjoying the last bit of sun, before going into his pen in like 30 mins
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>>4464549
Nope I'm a leaf, shipping + import fees are outrageous, more than the actual enclosure
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>>4464686
>melamine
melamine is gonna disintegrate pretty quickly from piss and poo unless you've sealed it somehow
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>>4465368
How much weight the bracket can take will depends on how good you are at surface prep and how big the contact patch is, but a smallish tab can hold hundreds of pounds if you do it right. It is much harder to remove than silicone, but can be removed if you're persistent.
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Brought this poor dude home with me. His previous owner passed away and he was covered in multiple layers of stuck shed (his spectacles included) which have been removed, but he is so dehydrated. His eyes are completely sunken in and his spine is very visible. I've been giving him water with electrolytes and some liquid food (blended up frozen thawed pinky, boiled egg white and vitamin powder) through a 1ml syringe the past three days, as well as a soak bath or two.

I've treated a leopard gecko in the past who was even more of a walking mummy and miraculously made it, but it doesn't look too good for the little guy.
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>>4465624
For comparison: here's a pic of one of my own tokays.
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>>4465624
Good luck anon. You're doing a very compassionate thing in the attempt, even if the poor guy is too far gone. But reptiles are amazing healers as I'm sure you know - as long as it's alive, it had hope.
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>>4465247
>keeps asking people to comment to "raise his spirits" so he can fight cancer
>coincidentally active comment sections are a big factor in the YouTube algorithm
I don't want to be uncharitable, but uh...
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>>4464524
my concern with HDPE would be thermal expansion causing trouble with your sealing, and depending on your heating situation possible softening closer to your heat source. How would you be holding the panels together? some kind of framing, or adhesive?
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>>4465625
what a stud
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Meet Glaurung, I just got what I'm assuming is a him an hour ago. He's exploring his enclosure fight now and having a fun time.
I also handled a Chinese King Rat snake (First snake I've ever handled) and I did that shit like a fucking pro. It hissed and wasnt happy but I treadmilled it and everything. I really wanted to buy it but I dont have the space, Money or experience yet.
Anyways here he is.
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>>4466321
comfy
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I caught this skink today. He is now relocated and being free.
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>>4466356
Had a wild caught five-lined skink as a kid, lived more than 10 years. Fed it unsupplemented cave crickets every couple days, kept it in a 10 gallon standard tank with screen lid and only ambient lighting. Looking back it wasn't a great setup but I was a poor kid in SC and it's not like it shortened her lifespan.

Great lizard, lost her tail in the process of being caught but it grew back, and one more times through the years as well. She was super fun to watch catch crickets, and escaped into the house three times without being eaten by the cats or dogs, the last one she was gone for over two weeks before we shockingly found her in the back of a closet under some shoes, alive and well.
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>>4466387
Damn. I wish I kept it. We have a couple old ten gallons laying about. We also have a mealworm farm so it just sorta made sense. Fuck, man
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after a few hours of pushing around my fucking thermometer and somehow managing to throw it into his water bowl he's asleep. I can see his little cute butt sticking out from this piece of corn which I'm happy he seems to really enjoy.
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>>4465625
Damn now I want a Tokay but I want to keep my flesh.
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Can I put a leopard gecko enclosure on top of my ball python enclosure? The Ball Python is allowed free roaming time so my question is if a curious snake would scare the leo to death!
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>>4466633

I had one for a few years i got at an expo. They are fine, just don't count on handling it. Mine would greet me when I came with food but I started messing around in his cage he would run and hide in his hide box, Which worked out pretty well.
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>Ball Python ended its 3 month hunger strike
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Eggle update :)
Hes grown so much
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>>4466922
When he was just a baby (like 2 months ago)
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>>4466923
looks like a mini crocodile
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https://www.heterodon.com/catalog/sale-hn-lavenderskullface/
holy shit that snake must be made of gold
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>US produced CBB V. yuwonoi on Morph Market
What a dream animal. Hopefully this becomes more common.
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First newt of the year! My pond just unfroze two days ago and I didn't expect any to be there yet, so I accidentally scooped him out when I removed some old leaves and algae.
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>>4467061
>My pond just unfroze two days ago a
Bruh it's fuck march. Winter was 2 months ago
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>>4467079
Such is life in the alps.
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>>4462943
>>4463605
>>4464236
I'm still here, just been pretty damn busy. The lady of thiccness continues to grow and i'm planning to snag her a new enclosure at the next expo.
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>>4467003
>hognose's turn on the bubble
I suppose they'll do better in featureless plastic shoeboxes than ball pythons do, provided they have some substrate to dig around in.
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I didnt want to touch him or really interact with him for the first few days but he's been so inquisitive and curious that I've been putting my hand inside the enclosure and letting his smell it and look at it. I can get some chin rubs and back scratches in before he starts to walk away, But he doesn't hide from me where he walks away he just kind of walks away to the other side of the enclosure and hangs out. I'll feed him tomorrow and keep slowly interacting with him. He's doing a lot of glass surfing which sucks but I think he's just curious about whats on my bed and stuff. Hopefully I can pick him up by Wednesday.
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>>4467275
dont worry overmuch about the "leave them alone for however long" thing, that's more of a general guideline more than anything. Every critter is different, let them set the pace.
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bathtime
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>>4467538
Uh oh stinky......
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>>4467236
Godspeed anon.
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Is it true that Ball Pythons can go on hunger strikes until they literally starve to death? I've heard that it can happen but it seems very unusual to me, why would an animal with that behavior still exist? If it's true why does it happen?
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>>4467766
>Is it true that Ball Pythons can go on hunger strikes until they literally starve to death?
They can, but generally they don't unless theres some medical issue
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>>4467766
Mine decided to go on hunger strike for 2 month without any reason. But he was perfectly healthy, thick and active so I had no worry and offered him food every 2 weeks.
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My Ball python is now adult so she moved to her larger adult home, means I have a smaller enclosure ready to go.
I think about getting a Hognose snake but before I do I want to build a fancy back wall. I know the are not climbers at all but would the Hognose use easy to access basking platforms if built in into the back wall? I have PLENTY of space in this enclosure so I can go full creative. I could even do side walls and still have enough space in this enclosure.
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>>4467275
cute BTS
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>>4462874
Bro lol lmao
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>>4468050
As shit as Brian is, I wish it was Kevin instead.
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>>4468156
hullo
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>>4468085
Kevin can't get cancer, he already IS cancer.
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>>4468156
beautiful. the ball python is truly the king of pets
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>>4468235
*royal python



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