>Oenpelli editioncont. from: >>4446069This thread is dedicated to all animals of the reptilia and amphibia classes. Topics include, but are not limited to: geckos, snakes of all kinds, frogs, salamanders, newts, turtles, tortoises, and much more. Before asking a question, do a search on the internet to see if it has been answeredClassifieds for finding breeders and products:>morphmarket.com>kingsnake.com>faunaclassifieds.com>reptilescanada.com (Canadian breeders)>caudata.orgMost forums will have a "for sale" section on them, so look for that, especially if you have a specific herp you want. Craigslist can also be a good source for cheap aquariums, and make sure to check for any reptile expos that occur in your area.When asking a question, make sure to include these details:>Type and size of animal>Enclosure dimensions>Humidity and temperature>Type of substrate>The decor you use>How often you feed>The type of food you use>If your animal is wild caught or captive bred>How often you handle>Who you bought the animal fromOther Helpful Resourceswww.blackjungleterrariumsupply.comwww.joshsfrogs.comhttp://www.reptilesmagazine.comhttp://www.anapsid.orghttp://www.hylid.clara.co.uk/caer.htmhttps://www.americanmadeexotics.com/breeding-ball-pythons-article.htmlhttp://blogs.thatpetplace.com/thatreptileblog/
Whatever happened to the short tailed python anons? I’ve developed a fondness of the fate stumpy python trio
After 1,5 years my boy (ball python refused a meal for the first time.How long do I wait before retry?
>>4462999Male? Very common for around that age, they want to fuck, not eat If you have another snake offer their meal to him first, he'll likely refuse but doesn't hurt to try. If you don't have another snake, try when he seems really interested. Be prepared it could be up to six months though and your snake will be fine.
The next poster is a leachianus gecko IRL.
Rhacodactylus trachyrhynchus are FUCKING CRINGE
>>4463114Be quiet Leachie they are CUTE
>>4462744The lamp is too far away obviously>>4463024No it's just the one factor lol
There used to be an anon here with a bioactive boa enclosure, is he still around? i just want to see how his set up looked
>>4462943I haven't had a confirmed sitting of Sumatra anon in a bit. Other anon that had a couple hasn't posted in a long time. There might have been another one.
>>4463242Boa anon better be around. He was gonna breed plasmas
Would a western hognose be a decent starter reptile?
>>4463610Yea pretty decent
>>4463610Maybe? you might get a little bored with them since they're not as active a critter as say a beardie, and they like to DIG so even when they're doing stuff you might not see them.they also apparently get kinda pissy in adolescence, and territorially defensive. you're going to want to set aside like at least 30 minutes every day to just hang out with them, even if its just you putting your hand in the enclosure and letting them realize you're not trying to kill them, and from there get used to you doing maintenance, and then keep that up.
>>4463610Reminder that Western Hognoses gave nasty poop
My son bothers me for almost a year now, should I cave in and give him a Bearded Dragon? Or will it be impossible for a 12 year old and me and my wife will do all the petkeeping?
>>4463881>Or will it be impossible for a 12 year old and me and my wife will do all the petkeeping?Its certainly not impossible but that depends on how you are as a parent. Beardie care is pretty easy, nothing that a 12 yr old couldn't handle.
>>4463881Outside of taking to the vet, a 12 y/o should absolutely be capable of taking care of a beardie. Help him design and build the enclosure, make sure he understands what he needs to do, but honestly an interested kid could do most of it by 6 or 7, it's a matter of responsibility and motivation.t. Had herps as a kid and did everything but physically moving enclosures for brumation by age 8
>>4463881Make it a project. Look up the information for a care guide with him, and have him outline one for himself, along with chores that will need to be done daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly.That way he'll know exactly what needs to be done to keep the animal (and whether or not he actually wants to do that), and gives him a standard that he set himself that he needs to stick with.
I think my beardie talks to me>makes noise when I sleep in to demand lamp>hisses when I turn off lamp early because I have to go somewhere>looks at me then empty food bowl like "wtf"
>>4463610Depends what you're looking for in a starter. They're small, cute, and fairly hardy, and if you get one well started on mice already they're decent eaters. But they have nasty shits and a much less chill attitude than a ball python or corn snake. They can be brats who puff and hiss and bluff strike, and that can be intimidating for new keepers. They also are technically venomous, but they have to chew on you to inject venom. The effect has been described as a beesting but the potential for you specifically to be allergic is there.
>>4463980You should get a timer for your lamp. They're cheap and work well.
>>4463985NTA but are there any beginner-level egg eating snakes? Not feeding mammals to reptiles, sorry lizard-people or w/e dogwhistle is used for small hats these days.
>>4464111checked and true
>>4464131The hard part is sourcing the eggs
>>4464195Can you not just buy an adult and give them chicken eggs? Or at least quail?Alternatively, any good insect eating snakes that aren't Garters/Ribbons?
>>4464203rough green snake
>>4464205Oh my God it's adorable. QRD, it is basically a green garter without the musk?I'm promise I'm not a rackfag or horder, I'd build it a nice bioactive and read it stories and everything.
>>4462943I posted mine after he took a massive shit last month. I'll try to get a good picture of him soon for you. Have you considered getting your own? I know they can be hard to find in stores at least in my area.>>4463605Was that the anon with the Sumatra that completely mogged that Burm? That was an absolute giga chad snake.
>>4464209>arboreal>diurnal>needs it warm and humid with UV basking spot and heat gradient in the tank>adults need 2-3x a week feeding, and the insects sometimes need to be dusted with vitamin powder>should not be handled often>possible to keep in groups in big, well-structured tanksThey're more demanding than the effortless beginner snakes, but in a properly maintained naturalistic tank they could be a very interesting species to keep.
>>4464241Shit that sounds awesome. How big does it need? Would a 36x12x24" be large enough for one, assuming it's slammed full of sturdy plants, cork, "vined" wood, etc?
>>4464246at least 32" height would be good, and some more width, that tank is kinda narrow.
>>4464209Garteranon here, if its the musk youre worried about dont be, its pretty minimal. Mine hadnt musked for something like the first year of their lives, and even then stopped after I upped my handling frequency. My sick one even stopped musking the vet once I convinced them to let me take her out of the transport tote instead of barging in and necking her themselves. You'll also have a much easier time handling garterns than greens, and you'll actually be able to FIND captive bred garters.
>>4464236>Was that the anon with the Sumatra that completely mogged that Burm?Yea probably. I dont know of any others.
Need a 4x2x2 enclosure and nobody sells one nearby. (Small city) Gonna build one myself. The guy at the industrial plastic shop recommended HDPE and said 1/4" thickness will be more than enough but I'm not convinced. I was originally thinking 1/2" to 3/4" but he said it would be overkill. Guy had a ton of knowledge so I'm inclined to believe him but I'm curious what you guys think, will 1/4" be enough?
>>4464524Dubiaroaches.com can't work for you?
Will silicone adhere metal to its walls? I want the branches in an enclosure to be removable, so brackets seems like the way to go, but I'd rather not damage the pvc walls with screw holes. If silicone could adhere the brackets to the wall strong enough that those brackets can then support a branch, that'd be awesome.
>>4464555Get urethane construction adhesive.
Getting a month-old ackie in a few days and done lots of required reading. What can anyone tell me what to/not to do
>>4464586can you expand on that?
>>4464664What's your planned setup, feeders, etc.? Would probably be easier to point out possible mistakes than throwing out random monitor keeping trivia that you have likely come across already if you've done proper research.
>>44646774x2x2 melamine enclosure, climbable rock background, crickets gutloaded with assorted vegetables, stacked plywood w/spacers, probably use a mercury vapor bulb and aim to get a surface as close to 70 celsius as possible, red sand/mulch mix to hold burrowed form, and a moist digging corner either in a tub or piled up behind a rock "dam"
>>4464686If youre getting him in a few days you should already have your enclosure set up and the temps dialed in. You dont want to end up with insufficient heating or something wrong with the enclosure and have nowhere to out your animal while you fix it.
>>4464689I have 5 other reptiles and I work with several ackies. If I make an error the margin wont be significant
>>4464664Give it like a foot of substrate
>>4462874Once and for all, what in the best substrate for (adult) Horsfield and Hermann's tortoises? I'm upgrading their indoor winter/bad-weather enclosures and want to go bioactive (so something I don't need to shovel out and replace regularly and can hold plants and deal with their shit and piss to some extent when they piss and shit while I'm at work).
>>4464664When it sheds, pay attention that none of it remains stuck on the toes. Ackies losing toes is a common problem.
I fed him crickets last night so i think he is rewarding me by sleeping on the glass and showing his tummy.
>>4464897what do you normally feed him? also cute tummy.
>>4464898normally just crested gecko diet. he prefers pangea but im trying to make him eat repashy too so he doesnt get too picky.
>>4464131>Beginner levelNo.>Egg eating snakesYes, do you have regular access to songbird or finch eggs?
>>4464131If youre going to prioritize an animal thats basically nature's popcorn chicken over a reptile simply because it has tits, you probably shouldnt keep reptiles.
>>4464897MODS
Anyone here has experience with leopard geckos?Mine has had for a while swollen neck. It's like when fat people have double or triple chin. He is perfectly healthy, not obese, active, has appetite so I'm wondering If I should be worried. He also has bumps behind his front legs but I've found that that's normal, calcium pouch. https://www.reptileforums.co.uk/threads/leopard-gecko-with-a-cyst-on-its-neck.240564/
>>4464672Google Urethane Construction Adhesive. It’s animal safe if you don’t get one that says things like “Mildew Resistant” or whatever, and it sticks to plastic and painted metal way better than silicone.
>cut the rats brain open>put vanilla on the rats headhow legit are those snake feeding tips I found on youtube?
>>4465065Braining is an actual think. Vanilla sounds like some weird nonsense
Would either of these be good for a small tortoise?
>>4465225Or this?
>>4465228>>4465225They apparently dont go for fenugreek normally, and those might be a choking hazard. Flower stick might be a winner though.
>>4465231Thanks for the heads-up. My Walmart doesnt got any tortoise food
>>4465065braining works, can confirmnever heard that vanilla trick, never had a snake react to the smella vanilla, and can't imagine why it would work, but if braining doesn't work I guess you can give it a shot
>>4465235Yeah it does. Go to the produce area of the grocery department.
>brian selling his colubrid breeders because of cancerIs this good or a marketing scheme?
>>4465247Maybe he can cure his cancer by shoving himself in a 5ftx5ft box with water and have someone occasionally throw him a sandwich. He probably stressed because he was overstimulated in his larger environment. Brians are naturally found in trash heaps and repurposed crack houses.
>>4465245Good point, my good man. He has plenty of fresh grass to eat. I will pick up some romaine or iceberg next time I go. I'm sure theres a head of cabbage in the fridge for him. Just wanted to give him some more variety. He does love clovers, its flowers, and the winter grass
>>4465060Do you know what kind of weight brackets adhered with this can support?The other thing is I know you can scrape silicone off pretty easily if you wanted to completely redo an enclosure, but can you scrape this off?
>>4465340Stick to more nutritional things. Romaine and Iceberg are basically just water. Personally I feed mine Pak Choy, Dandelions, Lamb's Lettuce, Frisee Endive, and Radicchio Chicory (the last 3 come in bags called "Crispy" at my local supermarket). Look out for salad leaf mixes and compare with info on The Tortoise Table; it's cheaper and healthier.
>>4465370He eats the a fair amount of dandelions, weeds, cactus, and salad mix, heads of romaine, avocado skins, onions, celery, carrots, and a ton of other vegetable scraps. He eats a ton in general and his poops are usually bigger than his head. Sometimes double in size. I tried giving him lemon peels and slices, but never liked them. Hes just enjoying the last bit of sun, before going into his pen in like 30 mins
>>4464549Nope I'm a leaf, shipping + import fees are outrageous, more than the actual enclosure
>>4464686>melaminemelamine is gonna disintegrate pretty quickly from piss and poo unless you've sealed it somehow
>>4465368How much weight the bracket can take will depends on how good you are at surface prep and how big the contact patch is, but a smallish tab can hold hundreds of pounds if you do it right. It is much harder to remove than silicone, but can be removed if you're persistent.
Brought this poor dude home with me. His previous owner passed away and he was covered in multiple layers of stuck shed (his spectacles included) which have been removed, but he is so dehydrated. His eyes are completely sunken in and his spine is very visible. I've been giving him water with electrolytes and some liquid food (blended up frozen thawed pinky, boiled egg white and vitamin powder) through a 1ml syringe the past three days, as well as a soak bath or two.I've treated a leopard gecko in the past who was even more of a walking mummy and miraculously made it, but it doesn't look too good for the little guy.
>>4465624For comparison: here's a pic of one of my own tokays.
>>4465624Good luck anon. You're doing a very compassionate thing in the attempt, even if the poor guy is too far gone. But reptiles are amazing healers as I'm sure you know - as long as it's alive, it had hope.
>>4465247>keeps asking people to comment to "raise his spirits" so he can fight cancer>coincidentally active comment sections are a big factor in the YouTube algorithmI don't want to be uncharitable, but uh...
>>4464524my concern with HDPE would be thermal expansion causing trouble with your sealing, and depending on your heating situation possible softening closer to your heat source. How would you be holding the panels together? some kind of framing, or adhesive?
>>4465625what a stud
Meet Glaurung, I just got what I'm assuming is a him an hour ago. He's exploring his enclosure fight now and having a fun time. I also handled a Chinese King Rat snake (First snake I've ever handled) and I did that shit like a fucking pro. It hissed and wasnt happy but I treadmilled it and everything. I really wanted to buy it but I dont have the space, Money or experience yet. Anyways here he is.
>>4466321comfy
I caught this skink today. He is now relocated and being free.
>>4466356Had a wild caught five-lined skink as a kid, lived more than 10 years. Fed it unsupplemented cave crickets every couple days, kept it in a 10 gallon standard tank with screen lid and only ambient lighting. Looking back it wasn't a great setup but I was a poor kid in SC and it's not like it shortened her lifespan. Great lizard, lost her tail in the process of being caught but it grew back, and one more times through the years as well. She was super fun to watch catch crickets, and escaped into the house three times without being eaten by the cats or dogs, the last one she was gone for over two weeks before we shockingly found her in the back of a closet under some shoes, alive and well.
>>4466387Damn. I wish I kept it. We have a couple old ten gallons laying about. We also have a mealworm farm so it just sorta made sense. Fuck, man
after a few hours of pushing around my fucking thermometer and somehow managing to throw it into his water bowl he's asleep. I can see his little cute butt sticking out from this piece of corn which I'm happy he seems to really enjoy.
>>4465625Damn now I want a Tokay but I want to keep my flesh.
Can I put a leopard gecko enclosure on top of my ball python enclosure? The Ball Python is allowed free roaming time so my question is if a curious snake would scare the leo to death!
>>4466633I had one for a few years i got at an expo. They are fine, just don't count on handling it. Mine would greet me when I came with food but I started messing around in his cage he would run and hide in his hide box, Which worked out pretty well.
>Ball Python ended its 3 month hunger strike
Eggle update :) Hes grown so much
>>4466922When he was just a baby (like 2 months ago)
>>4466923looks like a mini crocodile
https://www.heterodon.com/catalog/sale-hn-lavenderskullface/holy shit that snake must be made of gold
>US produced CBB V. yuwonoi on Morph MarketWhat a dream animal. Hopefully this becomes more common.
First newt of the year! My pond just unfroze two days ago and I didn't expect any to be there yet, so I accidentally scooped him out when I removed some old leaves and algae.
>>4467061>My pond just unfroze two days ago aBruh it's fuck march. Winter was 2 months ago
>>4467079Such is life in the alps.
>>4462943>>4463605>>4464236I'm still here, just been pretty damn busy. The lady of thiccness continues to grow and i'm planning to snag her a new enclosure at the next expo.
>>4467003>hognose's turn on the bubbleI suppose they'll do better in featureless plastic shoeboxes than ball pythons do, provided they have some substrate to dig around in.
I didnt want to touch him or really interact with him for the first few days but he's been so inquisitive and curious that I've been putting my hand inside the enclosure and letting his smell it and look at it. I can get some chin rubs and back scratches in before he starts to walk away, But he doesn't hide from me where he walks away he just kind of walks away to the other side of the enclosure and hangs out. I'll feed him tomorrow and keep slowly interacting with him. He's doing a lot of glass surfing which sucks but I think he's just curious about whats on my bed and stuff. Hopefully I can pick him up by Wednesday.
>>4467275dont worry overmuch about the "leave them alone for however long" thing, that's more of a general guideline more than anything. Every critter is different, let them set the pace.
bathtime
>>4467538Uh oh stinky......
>>4467236Godspeed anon.
Is it true that Ball Pythons can go on hunger strikes until they literally starve to death? I've heard that it can happen but it seems very unusual to me, why would an animal with that behavior still exist? If it's true why does it happen?
>>4467766>Is it true that Ball Pythons can go on hunger strikes until they literally starve to death?They can, but generally they don't unless theres some medical issue
>>4467766Mine decided to go on hunger strike for 2 month without any reason. But he was perfectly healthy, thick and active so I had no worry and offered him food every 2 weeks.
My Ball python is now adult so she moved to her larger adult home, means I have a smaller enclosure ready to go.I think about getting a Hognose snake but before I do I want to build a fancy back wall. I know the are not climbers at all but would the Hognose use easy to access basking platforms if built in into the back wall? I have PLENTY of space in this enclosure so I can go full creative. I could even do side walls and still have enough space in this enclosure.
>>4467275cute BTS
>>4462874Bro lol lmao
>>4468050As shit as Brian is, I wish it was Kevin instead.
>>4468156hullo
>>4468085Kevin can't get cancer, he already IS cancer.
>>4468156beautiful. the ball python is truly the king of pets
>>4468235*royal python
>>4468181I hope a king cobra rekz his shit
>>4468085>>4468181I know Kevin is the issue for dog shit too small and empty snake racks but he's still an extremely smart and profound reptile expert. I mean look at the monitors he has who act like fucking dogs or all the conversation work he's done. He's not a Saint and I hate his snake keeping ideas but I have to respect all he's done.
>>4468451You might have a point if any of what you said was actually true.>an extremely smart and profound reptile expertFucking NO. He THINKS he's actually smarter than a vet but then he continually uses gentamicin for deworming, which is INSANELY nephrotoxic, and pretty much not used by anyone that knows what they're doing, and then has the gall to act surprised when his one of a fucking kind leucistic king cobra gets renal failure. And let's not even get started on the bareknuckle fingerblasting of cloacas. He knows probably LESS than an average fucking rando with similar amount of experience because his retarded boomer sensibilities prevent him from admitting when he's fucked up. Apart from his eceleb status He's no better than any other xXxSICKBAZTARDZ EXXXOTICKSxXx one-tier-above-basement breeder.>all the conversation work he's doneI always hear this rhetorical point when people come out to defend him, but I never see any specific examples. What exactly? Going in front of his local city council and testifying to keep his business viable? being an advocate for USARK? If you have a direct financial incentive to keep selling snakes and to do so in as many places as you can, doing that's not altruism, it's self-interest.>the monitors he has who act like fucking dogsAgain, FUCKING NO. I'm 100% going to run out of space so this is a 1/2
>>4468499>>44684512/2I refuse to give those cunts a single click more than I already have so YOU can go and look up his baby monitor enclosures. Stark white, bright as fuck melamine boxes with a kitty litter pan of water and a single (as in one) arch of about 14 inches of pic related as the only hide they can utilize, explicitly stated to not give them any chance to actually hide, and be constantly exposed. These monitors are NOT being socialized, they're getting a tolerance for aversive stimuli developed into them. The second you give them a suitable enclosure with a place they can ACTUALLY hide it all goes out the fucking window>OH BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO GET THEM DONT FOLLOW KEVIN'S DRAGON-WHISPERER TRAINING REGIMENIf that's the case then they're NOT SOCIALIZED, are they? A socialized animal STAYS socialized, if you skip a few days of acclimation training they don't flip a fucking switch in their brain and go full feral, especially not something as intelligent as a monitor.And let's be perfectly fucking honest here, his "threads of trust" acclimation training shit isnt exactly revolutionary (except maybe to rackfags who don't see their animals as anything but bio-NFTs). Literally ANYONE who knows ANYTHING about animal behavior could tell you to gradually build trust, reinforce wanted behavior and ignore (NOT punish) unwanted behavior. Shit, they do the exact same shit for socializing feral kittens (and once THEY'RE socialized they stay that way too.)Look up Tom Crutchfield if you want to see someone who actually knows what the fuck they're doing with monitors.
>>4468511>pic relatedpic fucking related, shit.
>>4468499>doing that's not altruism, it's self-interest.I'd agree with pretty much the rest but I dont mind this.
>>4468499I dont keep up with everything he does but I do agree its fucked if that shit really did kill his animals.>What WorkHe does some local stuff with turtles and rehab work with surrender or confienscated animals>A socialized animal STAYS socializedI'd disagree, Reptiles arent domesicated and are still in the process of evolving to be codepended on humans. All reptiles will act like wild animals if given the chance same with some birds and other "exotic" animals. Dogs have been with humans for tens of thousands of years so much so that we've evolved to understand simple gestures the other makes. You have to interact with your animal or it will loose its confidence around humans. >Source?Breeders have told me>if you skip a few days of acclimation training they don't flip a fucking switch in their brain and go full feralName anyone who that's happened to besides Kamp Kenan who admitted that he should have spent more time interacting with it and it also got stolen and abused for a bit which made it even less trusting of humans.
My skink had a rubbing scab on his mouth when I got him and earlier today he somehow managed to peel it open and start bleeding everywhere. I took him out and gently cleaned his head with a wet napkin and he stopped bleeding about 5 minutes later. Can it turn to mouth rot? Or will he be fine.
>>4468571>You have to interact with your animal or it will loose its confidence around humans.A socialised monitor will stay socialised regardless of enclosure setup. A monitor is not socialised when it immediately factory resets upon being put in a new environment. It has nothing to do with whether or not they’re domesticated
>>4468563Just because it's not altruistic doesn't mean it's not also beneficial. But by definition, altruism is done without self-interest.
So after thinking about it a lot and watching even more youtube about it I am certain that I want a Hognose snake!But watching so many videos I heard some conflicting informations, this I ask my trusted anons what is true and what not.1. Deep heat emitter, Radiant heat panel or heat mat from below?2. Aspen or something else like Cypress mulch?3. Should I give climbing opportunities? I know they are derpy and clumsy so nothing super high, just semething to get off the ground a bit.4. Wetbox is enough, no spraying down the enclosure like you would with a Ball Python?5. UVB is a must. I will certainly give, just asking.6. How deep should the substrate be? I know they burrow but can it be too much substrate? depending on the heating method it could have impact.
>>4468667>monitor is forced to tolerate averse stimuli (ie. is constantly exposed and cannot hide, and thus doesnt)>environment changes, monitor no longer has to tolerate averse stimuli (ie. can hide when it feels exposed)>monitor loses tolerance to averse stimuliFeels almost like the whole "dog tame monitor" shit is marketing to justify the 3k-5k price tag, and either boomer idiocy at best (actual antifragility socialization takes time and space, and who can do that when you've got a reptile factory to run, this method is good enough) and an overt scam at worst, knowing that they'll be right at square one the moment you put them in a proper enclosure but with the excuse of "oh, you must not have followed my dragon guru kung fu method to keep them from going feral at the drop of a hat" as an excuse to prevent people from bitching at him that his "socialized" monitors fucking aren't.
>>4468829>Deep heat emitter, Radiant heat panelOne of these. Deeper = warmer isn't natural and could be less than ideal.Aspen is good for burrowing.Some climbing is fine sure.Dont spray Aspen, it'll mold like a mofo. You can provide a humid hide if needed during shed cycles.Uvb not critical but beneficial.As deep as practical. More deep means more burrowing
>>4468860thank you
>>4468829>1. Deep heat emitter, Radiant heat panel or heat mat from belowIm not a fan of heat mats for various reasons, but ESPECIALLY not for burrowing animals. Burrowing animals big deep to thermoregulate, and the ground gets COOLER as you dig down outside, not warmer like it would with a heat mat. DHPs have the full spectrum of IR and you seem to want to mimic the outdoors with the UVB so Id go with that. Dont skimp out on the thermostat though, get a pulse proportional, and make sure you can dim the DHP manually to dial in the right settings.>2. Aspen or something like Cypress mulch?Im not a big fan of aspen personally, but cypress may be a little too far in the other direction because that tends to be a bit moister than you want. Reptifiles (who I tend to defer to for care guides because they really know their shit and advocate for better quality naturalistic husbandry) recommends a 70/30 mix of organic topsoil and washed playsand, which will allow for better digging/tunnel creation than standard wood chips.>3. Should I give climbing opportunities? I know they are derpy and clumsy so nothing super high, just semething to get off the ground a bit.Even if they only rarely use it, more options for activites is ALWAYS a good thing. Apparently easterns will wrap their tails around cattails/tall grasses and hang out over the water in marshes to hunt frogs, so they CAN and DO certainly climb, albeit not often.>4. Wetbox is enough, no spraying down the enclosure like you would with a Ball Python?Really depends on the ambient humidity in your house and how the heat dries out the enclosure. You may be good with an occasional spray, you may need a fogger on 12 HOURS A FUCKING DAY just to keep an ambient humidity above 30% in an enclosure like me. Your mileage may vary, but dont spray down aspen if you go that route because that molds like a motherfucker. Offer a humid hide regardless of your humidity circumstances, though. Like above, more options more better.1/2
>>4468885>>44688295. UVB is a must. I will certainly give, just asking.Good. Dont go too nuts though, aim for shade dweller/crepuscular config on the UV end, and add some shade/ground cover if you get a paler/albino morph. No sun protection in those.6. How deep should the substrate be? I know they burrow but can it be too much substrate? depending on the heating method it could have impact.Bare minimum 3 inches, id say go 5 or more? May even want to give multiple levels in the enclosure, higher in places and lower in others so the snake can make caves and stuff if you go with a substrate that can hold a tunnel. Like >>4468860 said, more deep more diggy.
>>4468654I opened his mouth and there wasn't anything wrong inside it was all external
>>4468903Other side
>>4468903>>4468904Would recommend a vet visit sooner rather tha later to ensure your little dude is healthy, Im inclined to say that that looks like either moth rot that is in the process of healing, or an old (and oddly symmetrical) wound in the process of healing. He may have had some kind of mishap before you got him that whoever you got him from didnt feel the need to disclose, which is a red flag.
>>4468908>>4468904>>4468903On the bright side he seems nice and calm with you handling him.
>>4468908>>4468909Yeah, He's not happy being picked up but once I've got him he's fine. He does do alot of Glass surfing and rubs his head against the enclosure and yesterday he cut his mouth and it was bleeding a bit. I'll give him another 2 or 3 days and If it's even worst I'll try to take em in.
One of my sulcatas died earlier this week. I think it was the storms that blew through the region. I checked on their outdoors enclosure earlier last week and both of them seemed healthy, as in they responded to stimulus and didn't have any signs of infection. They had a shelter and everything in their enclosure, but for whatever reason they didn't always use it during storms.The other appears to be healthy, but he knew his friend was gone. When I found the body, the other was poking it for signs of life. Then while I was moving the dead one, he moved into his old spot and was sniffing around. They know who their friends are, and they can love.RIP buddy. There will be endless fields of strawberries for you in heaven.
>>4469126Damn, I'm so sorry anon. Nothing can fix losing a brother or friend.
>>4469136I just don't understand why him, and why now? I tried to be the best caregiver I could. I suspect the root cause was respiratory illness, but they've survived far worse winters, although this years was pretty wet and cold due to the atmospheric rivers. I guess that means I'm going to have to take the other one in every time it storms now.
>>4469141>>4469126I just took the other one in since it's starting to rain. I can hear him wheezing, but no fluids. I hope he doesn't have an infection too.
>>4469221Would recommend a vet visit as soon as you can, just to make sure your other boy is okay (and if not, get out in front of any kind of necessary treatment.)
Well, I asked a vet and they told me that I should come in for a check up because it doesn't look like a scab and looks like it might be mouth rot. I'm gonna schedule and appointment tomorrow because they wouldn't answer my call back today. It's $90 for a check up + whatever meds they give me which sucks but hey what can ya do? If it is mouth rot I'm gonna give a stern phone call to the place I got them from which told me it was just rubbing and not to worry about it. If they don't apologize or don't at least do something I wont be very happy. But I pulled him out a little bit ago and he was snappy and hissy but once he was out he was fine and just exploring my bed. He likes to get tangled in my hair so I'll need to tie it up next time.
>>4469237Will do. I just checked on him again. He's still inactive, but at least he's not wheezing any more. It's raining pretty hard rn, so I'm glad I brought him in. I hope he can forgive me for what I did to our friend.
Suppose your leopard gecko is a heckin chonker. How often would you feed him a large dubia roach (dusted with calcium + d3)?Twice/week? Once?
>>4464236>Have you considered getting your own? I know they can be hard to find in stores at least in my area.Unfortunately I’m an ausfag, so don’t have access to them>the Sumatra that completely mogged that Burm?Tell me more
>>4469386>Tell me moreAnons girl is the pic on the Sumatra STP wikihttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumatran_short-tailed_python
He's sleeping with his head exposed. Looks like he's taken to his new home nicely.
>>4469365He knows you loved both of them and that you're trying your very best. But for his sake please update your care routine.
Well, unfortunately the dehydrated tokay did not make it. I found him lying on the bottom of his quarantine setup, twitching with his limbs. I'm a sentimental imbecile so I gently placed him on my chest, covered by a soft cloth so he didn't have to die alone, then lied down on my bed with him and a while later he drew his last breath. I made a mini wake with candles before putting his little body in the freezer to return it to the rescue facility he was originally brought to the next day. Again, I'm an emotional idiot, but I have a soft spot for these geckos and I felt so deeply sorry for the guy in the situation he was in.Today they're supposedly getting a tegu that's on death's doorstep as well. I just hope that one isn't as far gone.Anyway, to lighten the mood of my blog essay have a picture of my tokays' three month old offspring with mom out exploring the walls of the room (dad was sitting close by too). It'll stay here as a pet and get its own enclosure once the parents stop guarding it in a couple of months. I don't actively breed them, by the way. I adopted them as a bonded pair years ago and she never laid before. The other egg did not hatch.
>>4469407Based
>>4469543Ah well. Taking in rescues can be a sad affair sometimes. You did your best.
>>4469557Thanks, and yeah.At least the tegu that was brought in is in much better shape than described. He does have an older, quite deep cut on his tail, and from there to the tip it's completely floppy, so we're thinking it'll drop soon and he'll end up with that typical shorter, stumpy tail as it regenerates. He also has an infection on the right side of his mouth (the tissue on the inside is all clean luckily), but he is a good weight, has an appetite and is very friendly and curious. He's been put on antibiotics, pain meds and his tail got treated. If nothing crazy happens I'm positive this boy will make it just fine, and like with all tegus being surrendered he'll have people waiting in line to adopt him.
>>4465625As this anon: >>4466633 has said, It's impressive that you have such a docile friend there. From what I have heard, Tokays are like "wallcrawling mousetraps", once they clap down it will be a while until they let go. I was not this amazed since the NERD video of how they trained a snake to be nonconstrictive while feeding.What is you secret to create such friendly behavior?
Well fuck, seems like Brian Barczyk is done for :(
>>4469853Inshallah.
>>4468887>>4468885>>4468860Thank you bros, one last question about hide size. Do they prefer their hides to be small so the barely fit (like ball pythons) in or do they want them bigger?
>>4469914Their preferred hide is a burrow. Small is probably fine.
>>4469853time for GoHerping to make a comeback
>>4469853For those who don't want to watch his video but want to be in the know, his original plan was to get a complex surgery and chemo to beat his pancreatic cancer. He was feeling confident he could beat cancer. But he found out that his tumor is encased in arteries and veins and cannot be operated on. So doctors basically told him he's fucked and there's no path to cure his cancer. He seems like he's getting a little choked up talking about it. option 1 is get chemo and live 12-18 months. He doesn't explicitly say what option 2 is, I think it was cut out, but one can assume that it's to get no treatment and die sooner. He says in the future he will lose a lot of weight and probably his hair, and that he has already lost some weight and it's getting harder to eat. He's nervous about looking so ill on camera and asks if his fans want to see him decline on camera. So he's probably going to get the chemo and live another year or 2. He talks a little about the future of his channel when he's in treatment and/or dead saying that his son wants to be the front man. He gasses up his son, wife and employees and hopes that people keep watching when he's gone.RIP Brian.
>>4469969>dick riding snarky mulatto retardWhy
>>4469914Thigmotaxis is a thing, but sometimes they like to spead out. Try some different sizes and see what the sneg likes. Protip, get an appropriately sized cork tube and cut/break it in half lengthwise into two long arches. Now one hide is two, and you can even partially bury one for a little hideyhole.
>>4469969>Too busy complaining he doesn't make any money doing doordash and cooking disgusting food>Hasn't made anything reptile related in months>Says he "USED to" keep reptiles in his videosWhere is the herping?
>>4469975Pancreatic cancer is unfortunately almost always a death sentence because it takes so long to catch it. It usually isn't symptomatic until after its already metastatic.That said, it could hardly have picked a more deserving imbecile.
>>4469999>>4469914Oh yeah, be prepared for them to not use hides AT ALL and pick the underside of the water dish. Snakes seem to have a sixth sense that allows them to determine precisely where you dont want them to be, so they can happily pccupy that space.
>>4470041THIS. My kingsnake, ball python and tarahumara boa all avoid their fancy hides and live underneath their spacious water bowl.
>>4469375Once a week, and give exercise. I let mine run over the table or around a small corner of the house when I have time to babysit it.
>>4469975That's pretty brutal, I feel bad for his kid. It's bad enough your dad is a racknigger but then you have zero chance of a normal life as he thrusts his destiny of vlogging and mass producing ball pythons upon you while he dies from fucking cancer.
>>4470052Thanks
Any tips for bonding with a Leopard gecko? I got two about two weeks ago and both are very shy. They are a year old at least. Does it take a good while for them to get used to their new home? It feels like my beardie bonded with me in no time.
>>4470315As with all herps, change stresses them and patience works wonders. Just let em chill for a month.>bondingNot gonna happen. Toleration sure, maybe even curiosity.
>>4470315Curiosity and linking you with food are the main drivers. As a starter, just open the enclosure and put your hand close. Just let it get used to your presence. Then tong feed it so that it connects you with delicious food. After that, they might get interested when you open the enclosure and come to you. Mine likes to climb on my hand to be taken out, he even scratches the enclosure opening. Main thing is, take it slow. One last thing. Even when they are chill, they have a tendency to just bolt when they get spooked. They also have poor perception of how high they are off the ground, so be careful as they will take nosedives. And really, do not overfeed!
Is paroedura picta easy enough to take care of if you only have experience with leos?
>>4470423Yes. They're only slightly different. The main difference is their humidity. They also like to dig. You can address both of these issues with a partial coconut fiber substrate. Mist once daily. Cover as much of the screen top as you need to maintain their baseline humidity requirement. Around 60% plus the daily misting bump is good. When I kept them I had best results with a half and half tank setup. On the warm side above the under tank heater I had ceramic tile. On cool side was coco fiber and some sphagnum moss mix. It's not sufficient to give them all arid substrate with a moist hide in my experience. Handling is easy. They can be shy(er) than leos. These are smaller geckos and more delicate with a shorter lifespan (usually 7-10 years as opposed to the leo 15-20).
>>4470474Thank you, how deep of a digging substrate do they need in your experience? I was looking at a 40cm tall tank, I wonder if something like 20cm is enough.
>>4470315Mine changed from hiding whenever i open the enclosure to coming out and checking stuff out whenever I open the enclosure. The buddy learned that good things happens when this big hand is coming in. Like anon said, food can be a main driver here, try handfeeding and then as next step put in teh open palm of your hand and handfeed with the other so your Gecko has to walk into your palm. Do nothing, just let him eat and go away, After some repeats he knows there is no danger there.
>>4470028He fell for the "wow i have a lot of views people will definitely keep following me if I stop making the content that got me famous and just become a friendstreamer" trap. Lot of lazy zoomer content creators fall into that.>>4469853As much as I hate the guy's algorithm chasing basedface videos and rackfaggotry, I think he's probably not a bad dude.
>>4470708I kind of just continued watching GoHerping's videos to see him continue to have misfortune. Karma for being a gorehound paypig I'm sure. He's like my personal Nikocado, but a little cuter.
My long tailed lizard is such a beast. Amazing feeding response, takes a wax/mealworm off the tongs in a second. What's more interesting is the Pavlovian response to seeing the worm cup & tongs--he clearly knows food is coming and gets excited. This is a dude with a brain smaller than a grain of rice.
Damn there are hardly any Egypt themed deko things for larger snakes.
>>4470850Try looking at fish tank accessories. You may need to carefully inspect/alter them slightly for sharp edges or tiny corners.
>>4470659Two or three inches is plenty. They don't really burrow as far as I could tell. They just dig holes. A favorite arrangement was a cork flat on top of the soil, they would dig holes underneath to make a hide for themselves.
>>4470857thank you
>>4470850Whatcha looking for? Pyramid basking rock? Powerslave-temple-statue hide?
>>4470028I hate him so fucking much, he had everything I would love to have and threw it away like a retard buying 2 100k cars instead of investing it.Then he says he got bored of reptiles and then just gets ride of his personal pets he's had for years like they were toys he grew out of. I hope he fucking remains a poor loser.
smol komodo. my local zoo's group were about this young when they moved in. they're pretty much the same as any other monitor in terms of behaviour when this small. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DyWzIyaosSc
my beautiful boana picturata. she's so gorgeous. i love her turtle shell patterning.
My bio corn setup :), want some air plants for the background but otherwise its complete
Brian is asking his fans for at least $400,000 and it looks like he's going to get it. In 1 day he's already raised $114,000.He claims he needs the money to build his aquarium because the bank found out he has terminal cancer and probably won't lend him $2,500,000 anymore. He also doesn't want the loan anymore because he knows that as soon as he kicks the bucket his family's income will drop straight down because Brian is the star of the show and then they'll default on the loan. And why take a loan from a bank when you can grift your cancer sob story and get your paypigs to give you money for free? So his own money + help from a friend worth about a mil + his millionaire buddies club raising a mil for him still isn't enough. He won't just sell his house or any of his other assets or cut costs to get the remaining $400,000 needed to open the aquarium, and he also refuses to not build the aquarium. But he will make a long sob story video and ask his fans to give him the money. Pretty wicked grift desu, his fans eat this shit up. Scores of fans in tears in the youtube comments furiously navigating to the gofundme to donate everything they can. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAMrJ_C8ss4
Looks so happy. I also made an outdoor enclosure using an old bird cage and filling the inside with rocks and substrate. Btw inside the tub there's 45-60% of humidity and the heat swing between 20-30 celsius
>>4471424
>>4470960Desert themed enclosure for my adult female Hognose. I think about making some sort of broken pyramid aka basking platform, also hollow underneath so it doubles as hide the snek can reach when burrowing.But I would need 2 pyramid shaped hides to match that.
>>4471417Say what you will about the man, but you gotta admit he knows how to exploit the fans
>>4471411Looks nice! What's the rough humidity? If you are looking for any more easy, small "busy" plants with some color, fittonia "Nerve Plant" is great in any of its three colors.
>>4471460Thanks! Cant say the exact humidity as the hygrometer i bought was broken, but i would guess it sits around 40% maybe a bit lower. I had originally planned on adding a couple nerve plants, still might do as they work very well as accent plants around hardscape
>>4471348Baby komodos are fucking BEAUTIFUL creatures. Did not think they would have such bright and varied coloration at all.
>>4471504Pic related
>>4471485Mine have done pretty well in roughly 50% humidity, probably the best of any plant beyond philodendron Brazil - good luck intentionally killing those.Regardless, looks awesome! Bio setups are so cool, I love having a little ecosystem that exists for your scaley friend
>open freezer to grab a rat>snake already at the glasshow the fuck does she know?
>>4471090Yeah I feel you anon, I used to feel like shit watching his vids as a 30 yr old just starting to get my shit together but seeing how he's absolutely squandered his short lived wealth and clearly has never had a real job and can't function without his influencer buxx makes me feel so much better, even if I know thats shitty of me.
>>4471505We NEED adult monitors with that coloration that top out at like 3'
>>4471633Yuwoni is close
>Listen mom I need the fucking green anaconda you don't understand!
>>4471822based kid
>offer BP a bowl full of small rats>he eats the black one and ignores the restoh you!sr0km
>>4471836>small rat as in, small adult? that's a meal...
>>4471838No, much smaller ones to fuck with him.I just placed the bowl somewhere else where it is harder to reach and he starts looking again.
>>4471504You can kinda see where it faded away it on the adults too. The upper torso where the spots were is more orange and their necks are yellow, they just look brown because they’re always caked in dirt
>Co workers grand daughter got a RES from the fair>It's 6 years old and In a 5 gallon aquarium
>>4472065Don't be a pussy and tell him he needs to fix that.
>corn snakes can eat mice their whole livesNo way man. I've seen how big they get. Gotta go rat after like 4'.
>>4472158I know you're a vorefag hoarderanon but you're supposed to feed snakes to the width of their body, and corn snakes stay very thin. They do not need rats.
>>4472161fiiiiiine
Well now that I've discovered my Skink likes to burry his poopoo I think a semi bioactive wouldn't be a bad idea.
>>4462874what do i need to care for a gator? how much do they eat?
>>4465059my brother owned one but the cat ate it somehow, rip luigi
>>4472227No
>>4472227if you have to ask you cant afford it.
>>4472227No hoarder anon, that is beyond you
>>4472245lol not me I promise >get corn snake>get bp>get leo>they're perfectimagine my shock
>>4472227Depends on the Gator but you're gonna need either a large personal rabbit farm or have a farmer friend with an unfortunate tendency to have still born piglets. You need permits probably and an absolute MASSIVE enclosure. Like the size of the average swimming pool+ about double as much dry land with a very good filter and a prime steel wired fence with concrete bedding to prevent escaping. You're also gonna need to know how to deal with an animal that can get 10+ feet and half a ton that's always hungry and they're literally immortal. They cannot die of old age so it will outlive you. Then you need to have someone willing to take a 10+ foot monster. If you're going to get any crocodilian get a Cuiver Dwarf Caiman. Still a horrible idea that you shouldn't get because you had to ask but thats a more realistic goal. They get about 4 feet and can tame down to where they're semi handle able with of course proper experience and protection. It will still need an entire bedroom sized enclosure with a expensive indoor pond and is going to eat alot of rats and chickens on a weekly basis which will drain your wallet FAST.
>>4472227At that point just get a saltie
