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First for dank normie plant memes.
Saw these while walking around a pond today. I love spring in Texas
>>4457189anyone knows whats the name of this succulent? I cant find it
>>4457202looks kinda like the Obama portrait
Post real rare shit you wish would make it into cultivation.Pic turbinicarpus subterraneus, it's got a huge taproot but the body is on the end of this cool stalk.
>>4457662BasedSeriously how did aroids even become a thingIs it just because they're easy for nor is to grow in the house?
almost no sun, a bit of rain with occasional snow, temperature between -5 and +5 celcius, and this purple twat said fuck it let's bloom.sometimes i don't understand mother nature.
>>4457410It reminds me of Kalanchoe tomentosa. Maybe a Kalanchoe variety or hybrid?>>4457439Lol it does too. What the fuck was up with that.>>4457662Bamping with dank plant meme.
>>4458162Meme failed somehow.
I caught the fucker before it ripped through itself.It's the outer part that doesn't untuck itself, glued.Reckon it's due to low humidity.Every single new leaf has done this.Common with philodendron glorious?
>>4458768>There are people in this thread who won't be with their plants forever NGMI desu
I am a noob, and I am looking for a plant that doesn't require any care, doesn't catch diseases or parasites, or insects, doesn't require the need to change pots and doesn't grow a lot bigger. What would you recommend? Also it would be nice if it was unique and interactive. Budget doesn't matter, so it is fine if it is expensive.
>>4458821You probably won't get a lot of interaction from a plant, you could get a sarracenia with a compact growth habit like s. purpurea or a flytrap but they require winter dormancy. I'd reccomend a small cacti or succulent like a fairy castle cactus.
>>4458768Well memed, fellow plant lover.>>4457921Invasives like Vinca don't give a fuck about the weather.
>>4458892It's native to part of Europe and invasive in other places.If that photo was of a Vinca in its native European habitat, then that individual is obviously not being invasive.The fact remains that both Vinca major and Vinca minor are invasive in a lot of other places, killing off native plants and disrupting ecosystems.
Just repotted two of my ponytail palms I've had for 8 years. The local discount shop got a ton of ceramic planters in so I can get 10"+ glazed pots for $12 usd. The ones at the hardware store are $45. I finally can phase out some of my shitty plastic planters. This is great.
>>4459056Nice one. Just keep an eye on the ponytails so they don't end up breaking your new pots.
A red population of albomarginata
>>4459067I repot them every couple years once the palm-stem to pot ratio looks a bit snug. I bought them all in one pot when they were teeny tiny, traded most of them with other people, but kept 3. I think these new pots will give me 2, maybe even 3 years
>>4459160>>4459161Just buy a regular onahole ffs
If I have a 5 gallon tank with a couple of sparse plants and so. much. algae, how many ghost shrimp should I get to keep the algae under control but not need to supplement their food? There are no fish in the tank.
Ahhh, my desert rose just dropped flower bud that was like a few days away from opening. Petals look deep red too, maybe this is the winning one. Guess I'll just wait a few more months for new buds to firm.
Redpill me on rabbits' foot fern
i have bag of coco chips like picrel. you guys think they'd be suitable for dendrobium phalenopsis as only "soil"? add something maybe? sphagnum maybe?
>>4458162>It reminds me of Kalanchoe tomentosa. Maybe a Kalanchoe variety or hybrid?found the name in a video, where the woman was speaking portuguese, its called Aeollanthus parvifolius
How do you guys start your seeds?Trays? Peat pots? paper towel in a plastic bag?
Hey /plant/ I come for advice about layoutMy brother has lent me a bit of land so I can grow some veggiesthe size is about 5m*10mWhats the ideal distribution for maximum yield?
>>4460315>Aeollanthus parvifoliusInteresting. I have something similar. Perhaps it's another Aeollanthus.
>>4460435can you post it? I want to see it
>>4460432My first instinct is to do something like this, where the red lines would be the door and paths
>>4460316Put them in the ground and let them figure it out themselves. If you're willing to take (substantial) losses the first few years, you'll get a strain of seeds able to withstand weather and outcompete weeds.>>4460432Read Steve Solomon's Gardening when it counts. Don't overcrowd anything. Square foot gardening is a pinterest meme and eats up your yields. Start a compost bucket at home, or a worm box-even better.
>>4460442Well, it bamboozled plant.id, but Pl@ntnet identifies it as Plectranthus hadiensis.Like your Aeollanthus, it's also a South African plant in the mint family, Lamiacae.I don't know where we got it from, but it's a succulent that grows like an absolute weed and it constantly drops little bits of itself everywhere.We just bung a handful of fallen fragments in a pot or hanging basket and leave it alone for a few months and we have something like pic related to give away to friends and family.
>>4460830Does it ever flower? In any case, growing like an absolute weed definitely sounds like Lamiaceae.
>>4460917Yeah, it flowers in bits and pieces quite frequently. If you open the pic you can see some of the small purple flowers on it.The flowers/inflorescences vaguely resemble those on other Plectranthuses and other Lamiaceae, such as Coleus (well to my lazy eye at least).But it's more of a foliage plant. The flowers aren't much of a feature.
>>4460917I was momentarily diverted by this cladogram on the Wikipedia article for Coleus showing the apparent relationship between Coleus, Plectranthus and Aeollanthus.I've already forgotten it, but it was kind of interesting.
Recently I have become infatuated with the genus Dracaena, very beautiful and unique plants.
>>4460945What do you like about them?All I really know is that Dracaena fragrans (pic related), which is sold as "Happy plant" as a houseplant, is grown on plantations in places like Costa Rica. They grow them 30 feet tall or more, then stack the trunks into containers and ship them to the us, where the trunks are cut into small sections and rooted for sale.Also, that DNA analysis has led to the former genus Sansevieria ("snake plant", "mother-in-law's-tongue") to be merged into Dracaena.
>>4460955I like how diverse the genus is, plants like the dragonblood tree which is well known for it's beauty and rarity is completely different from the Dracaena sanderiana which bears resemblance to bamboo
>>4460830that looks pretty
>>4458955Don't you mean introducing multiculturalism to the local environment? Can't help if the native plants are too close minded to appreciate the diversity.
I got a little philodendron a few weeks ago, the new growth is coming up this kind of reddish brown. Does anyone know if I'm giving it too much light? It's under my grow light.
>>4460945>>4460955>>4460960To me, the real beauties of the tree-shaped Dracaena are the extreme succulents from the Arabic peninsula and the horn of Africa. D. cinnabari, D. ombet, D. serrulata, etc are all spectacular. D. draco looks more like one of the tree Aloe in comparison.>tfw killed my D. serrulata seedling last year by overwatering it>they're twice as expensive nowadaysAs for commonly cultivated species, D. surculosa is also a favourite of mine, especially with all the different cultivars it has with different colours and patterns. It doesn't even grow like a monocot, either.>>4461035It's okay, that's the way they grow. It'll turn green in a couple of weeks as a new reddish-brown leaf emerges.
>>4461046>that's the way they growthank you, that's a relief.
>>4460945Dracena cinnabari are so cool if you can get your hands on one.
>>4461134If you're in Europe:https://cycadales.eu/categorie-produit/rare_exotic/
i saw this plant growing on the muddy bank of a stream and cant figure out what it is. theyre purple with some green on them. they seem to be growing in clusters.
>>4461354looks like Symplocarpus foetidus "skunk cabbage"
Would like I’d on plant. Was growing in lawn. Live in west tennessee
>>4461422that is grass. Poa species
>>4461434There’s a small patch of it in the yard and it looks nice to me.
>>4458760Common with all philoderons, my prince of orange and silver sword had similar issues, just watch them.
Do you make your own flowerpots, /plant/? >>4460316I usually soak them in water for 12-24 hours, sometimes up to two days for hard to sprout seeds but I give them some time to dry after the first day so they don't rot.
>>4461498agreed, grasses are pretty when you let them do their thinghere we commonly have "yorkshire fog" which is a favourite of mine
>>4461545I might make newspaper pots when I'm giving plants as gifts, but I prefer glazed ceramic planters for my plants when I can get them.
Bamping with a Philodendron bipinnatifidum getting too clingy with an Australian Eucalyptus tree."Philodendron" literally means "tree lover", from the Greek "philo" for love and "dendron" for tree.What crazy plant action is going on in your part of the world?
I've been bitten by the plant bug and really want to buy one more indoor potted citrus. There's some coming for sale in a supermarket nearby tomorrow for €35, there's at least lemon, calamondin and kumquat. However plants bought from that shop have had bugs on them maybe 50% of the time. Another big box hardware store also has similar sized citrus for same price. It seems the selection is/was wider and the trees are slightly less likely to have bugs . But I don't have a car and taking the bus would take a long time and cost 6€ altogether and it's a hassle to carry such a tree, and the trees have been available for over a week and I have no idea what's left.
>>4463357Grow it from seed and have zero bugs
>>4463371I don't want to wait nearly a decade for it to fruit. I am propagating some other citrus seeds tho, but also a larger (well, for a houseplant) already fruiting tree
>>4463443*also want a larger tree.Why is buying plants so addictive
>>4462723 Growing one at home and it's got an insane root system. Just completely fills any pot you give it no matter the size. Recently repotted it in the biggest that could possibly fit in my place. Now I'll just try to ignore it being completely root bound for some years. I did my part, not my problem anymore.
>>4463513>Growing one at homePhilodendron bipinnatifidum? What size pot is it in now?It might be able to survive in a big pot for a long time, as long as it's well watered and fertilised. Monstera deliciosa certainly does, and they're a very similar plant in many ways (pic related).If it does eventually begin to suffer from being rootbound you can always try root-pruning it. Pull it out of the pot (or cut it out if necessary, running a sharp blade around the inside of the pot), and reduce the rootball by about a third and repot it in fresh potting mix.Are you giving it something to climb up? Can you post a pic?>>4463357>indoor potted citrus ... €35 ... fruit.Personally, I wouldn't bother trying to grow fruit indoors. Leaving aside the problems with lack of light (or your electricity bill if you want to go crazy with lights), you have to put loads and loads of water through a (very well lit) citrus tree to get any edible fruit off it.Unless you want to spend a small fortune buying and running lights and constantly taking your tree outside to properly drench it with a hose (or take it in the shower or bath to water it properly) it isn't going to work.You would be better off just growing citrus as little ornamental plants. Save your money for plants that are better suited to the indoor life.
>put 20 seeds to sprout using a paper towel>7 germinate in a few days>the rest haven't budged an inchAre they dead? They've been in since the 11th
>>4463676Just do nothing and see what happens.Plants don't work on your timetable, and you're only talking about four or five days anyway.If you want specific advice you at least have to tell us what kind of plants you're trying to grow...
Squamiferum doing great. Two 35cm ish leaves, but this one could be smaller. It's not growing any aerial roots even though it has a pole to cling onto.>>4461529Huh, if it's common, how do they even survive as a species?
>>4463710>if it's common, how do they even survive as a species?That's actually part of how they survive.Many plants have a red/pink/purple tinge to their new leaves. This coloration is caused by protective chemical compounds known as anthocyanins.Anthocyanins perform many different protective functions, including acting as a sunscreen to protect tender new growth from damaging UV light.As the new leaves mature, toughen up and fill with chlorophyll they turn green.Every other leaf on your plant started out looking just as pale and pink. They turned green as they matured.Anthocyanins can also protect against dehydration and do a bunch of other stuff.You will notice that a lot of succulents (and other plants) that are out in harsh sun and/or deprived of water will turn red/pink/purple but when put back in the shade will turn green again. The red/pink/purple is anthocyanins coming to the rescue...
>>4463710>>4463723D'oh! I thought you were talking about the colour of the new leaves on that other Philodendron.If the problem with your leaves not unfurling properly is due to a lack of humidity or water or transpiration, then that's probably just down to the dry, still environment in your home.It's obviously not a fatal problem for the species in its natural humid, tropical habitat.But obviously you don't want your home to be as humid as a South American rainforest. Everything would end up covered in mould.It is what it is.
>>4463560I mean yes, as it's going to be indoors in an apartment, it basically is going to an ornamental plant, just one that'll occasionally produce edible bonus fruit and flower sometimes. When I said I wasn't it to fruit I didn't mean "I want it to yield commercial-level crops". But I do want some fruit.
>>4463761Go for it. Good luck. Post pics.
I make my potting mix from 60-70% coarse grit and the rest commercial potting mixI find that the commercial potting mix has too much bark and I'm wondering whether I could just go buy some compost and mix that with coarse mix?Or would the compost just wash away?
>>4463737Hah!I do love the change in color, my rojo congo is like watching a forest go through all 4 seasons in a month.I'll pump up the humidity, it's been harsh during winter.
>>4463770Well I did it. I bought the sickliest looking lemon I've seen in a while because I'd kinda set my mind to it, walked all that way, had to fight off like 2 different pensioner ladies while I had the lemon in my basket but I stood there considering if I really do should buy it (it was the last one), and finally just decided to go for it. But yeah. I feel like the big box store would probably have had much healthier lemons for the same price, but I don't want to beg my dad for yet another plant shop ride so here we are. I'm going to wash and repot the fucker and then let's see. I've cleared out one room's windowsill for quarantine purposes. But damn, it's a special feel to feel like you're ripping yourself off. I even stole a lil cutting off a healthy looking calamondin just because I was so pissed off the only lemon was so poorly while the 2 remaining calamondins were thriving, and they were all the same price. It eased the pissed offness a bit
>>4463799 Of course you can. But bark is pretty good for drainage, do you really need to add additional grit and then try to fix it with compost? You could just mix compost with your grit if you like it.
Any advice for fungus gnats? I've tried hydrogen peroxide. I've heard crushed neem pellets supposedly work, but haven't tried them yet.
>>4464022Stop watering so much. Get a sundew to eat gnats, or a flypaper plant.
>>4464022diatomite works fine ime but the problem is it washing away
>>4464022I had fungus gnats AND aphids in my huge dieffenbachia pot, like a visible "white noise" on the surface.I put the pot in a larger container, mixed up some neem oil and whatever pesticide I had and filled up the container with water and the cocktail. Completely submerging the pot, letting it soak for like 5min. Let it drain, rinse off the plant with the showerhead.Put the plant somewhere warm and well ventilated to make sure it dries up fast.Had to repeat twice, haven't seen them for a year soon.
Got a mealybug infestation in my rooftop garden, they nest in the underside of the leaves of my 3 meter tall dracanea fragrans. And the ants bring their larvae into my potted succs and cacti. How can i decimate their population reliably? I live in a tropical area and now its dry season. Its hot and dry, they just thrive everywhere. Using meme organic insecticide (mint, garlic and neem extract) + soap didnt do anything. What should i do????? Everytime i water my plant they mock me each time i look up to the dracanea leaves. Theres just so many of them holy shit
What is the difference between Hermaphrodites and Bisexuals in plants? Are they one wnd the same? Also what percentage of plants are Hermaphrodites and Bisexuals?
>>4464793Your terminology doesn't make sense for plants. Your Dr. Money fagtalk vocab needs to go. Plants are monoecious (both male and female flowers on same plant) or dioecious (male and female flowers on different plants). Some monoecious plants have perfect flowers meaning both stamens (male pollen producing parts) and pistils (female egg producing parts that form fruit) are in the same flower, but some plants like squash for example have flowers that are distinctly male and female on the same plant.
>>4464793Congratulations, you are succesful in baiting me, Here (you)
>>4464797Yeah, this is what I wanted to know. If you don't mind, can you give me the approx. percentages of those 4 categories?
>>4464812Look it up, lazy-ass, and report back. Do your own fucking homework.
>>4464816I am trying but I can't find a proper source, and even in the ones I can find, the stats aren't properly given.
Anyone here grown Bee Balm?Any tips? Sown some seeds in a container I had around
>>4464886There's a couple of species called Bee Balm. The two most common are Monarda didyma and Monarda fistulosa. The pic in yours is didyma and it can't handle super dry like fistulosa, which has pink flowers, but it can take more shade. They both have the smallest fucking seeds imaginable, so start them in trays, baby them, and wait a while until they're big enough to transplant. Once you get a mature plant in the ground they're easy to care for.
>>4464886not much to it. just put it in the ground and water it. it's a perennial mint so it's basically as easy as growing any other labia plant
>>4464761For mealybugs, as it's outside, start with plain water to phyaically remove most of them. Those pump pressurised deals.It should remove most of the fluff that protects them. Then go in with a smaller spray of something alcoholbased but doesn't destroy the plant to make them let go of the plant.Then you can go with your emulsified neem spray.Ants, no idea.
How do I know which bugs are good and which ones are bad?
>>4464910You want bugs that eat other bugs and not plants. That's why spiders, mantids, ladybugs, and predatory wasps are good to have around. Grow plants those kind of bugs use for their habitat and lifecycle near the vegetables you want them to "protect".
>>4464913>Grow plants those kind of bugs use for their habitatWhich plants attract spiders?
>>4464913Those wasps love yarrow
>>4465034Yarrow is great. Long blooms bring pollinators. You don't have to care for it at all and it's host to lots of beneficial bugs. Ladybugs love it too.
>>4464812wikipedia cites 7% of all angiosperms as monoecious, but it's much more common in wind pollinated plants and certain families.what are you trying to prove?
>>4465155>what are you trying to prove?Nothing. In school we were only taught Hermaphrodite(perfect flower) plant biology when it came to plant sexual reproduction. I was sure this was done because it is the most common type of plants. I just want to know the percentages to understand how common it is.
>>4465159fair enough. they do teach it that way, maybe so they can include all the parts on a single diagram?for plants it's not a great strategy because they can self-fertilise which is like super incest. some have stayed with perfect flowers and built defenses against that (milkweeds for instance). or they stayed monoecious but produce male and female flowers separately.i'm not really sure why some groups have retained it, there must be some benefit. but they're the minority for sure.
My sarracenia have patches of a fine white powdery fuzz. I suspect it could be mildew so I repotted into fresh substrate, cut off the infected pitchers and gave everything a healthy dousing of neem. :(
>>4465313Aww I hope they get better. Can you maybe increase air circulation around them to inhibit mold growth?
can an in organic soil mix (sand and pebbles) be good for succulents if I regulary fertilize?
>>4465167Some flowers prevent self fertilization with different mechanisms. A lot of the time they'll shed their pollen before the female parts become receptive.
>>4465167>>4466031So, self-fertilization should be avoided at all costs or are there any plants that actually engage in it?
>>4466036Some plants self-pollinate just fine. Peppers do it. Long term it's not the best strategy for a wild species because they typically want more genetic diversity to deal with changing conditions in nature. It's a good backup strategy if a plant is somewhat solitary in the way it grows though. At least it can set some fruit. Cultivated plants it doesn't really matter as much. Humans do the selecting, and self-pollination helps keep cultivars distinct so it's desirable for horticulture in a lot of cases.
Veggie patch almost readyIts been fenced and automatic watering has been set up.Tomorrow I'll start planting: tomatoes, lettuce, bell peppers, zucchini, strawberries, etc.I wont bother fixing the soil, it has too much clay and it'd require too much organic matter to fix it, so I'll simply add proper soil to the holes where the plants will go and fertilize regularly.My guess is the soil will fix itself as time passes and I grow things in there.
>>4466080Try green mulch and letting daikon rot in the soil to improve your clay. The radish will break up the soil and then add organic matter. You can chop and drop green mulch blends and till them in (or not) and your soil will be improved shortly. You could also try trench composting, where you bury your compost waste in a trench in the garden. It won't heat up but it will still improve the soil.
>>4457711If you live in Arizona or California there are some nurseries that have them. Otherwise I’d try ebay or an online seller
>>4466042one thing that always interested me was dandelions (Taraxacum officinale) who apparently just clone themselves and rely only on genetic drift. i guess it works for really stable niches. i wonder if crabs do it too
>>4466314No such luck, I'm in Massachusetts. I've ordered some seeds of ssp. Booleanus but they're coming from Ukraine so even if they make it here fuck knows if they're the right seed and if they'll germinate or not.
>>4466097>letting daikon rot in the soil to improve your claythat sounds really interesting, I'll see if I can find some seedsin the event I cant find daikon, would letting carrots or other kinds of tubers to rot in the soil produce a similar effect?
>>4466561If you can't find Daikon, look for large white turnipsSometimes they're labelled differentlyNot the anon you're replying to
>>4466568I ended up doing exactly what, throwing turnip seeds wherever I didnt plant anything specific so they can start doing their magic without messing with the other cropsIm calling it done for now, I've planted strawberries, lettuce, tomatoes, bell peppers and eggplantsIll wait a couple weeks in case the nurseries bring something else, otherwise Im calling it done.All thats left would be to build some supports for the tomato plants
Any Cycad experts know what's going on with my Sagos? They were fine for a long time but they seem to be yellowing. Am I over watering them or something? Or are they just too close to the fluorescent lights? I don't see roots coming out the container bottoms so IDK if they need repotting yet. Don't they grow slow as shit?
>>4467277A picture would help I suppose
Rosemary plant flowered after giving it liquid fertiliser for a few weeks. That was last year. I planted rosemary seeds this year and I'm hoping to get a nice plant and have it bloom again.
>>4466376It works for them. Anything with a short time to maturity and hundreds of wind dispersed seeds can probably pull that off.
>>4467782Call me insane but I have never, EVER in my 32 years of existence seen yellow rosemary flowers.The shape is completely different too.
>>4467813I know Im not crazy, that cant be a rosemary flower.
>>4467814Yeah I was thinking the same thing.>>4467782That flower looks like some kind of hypericum or something. Rosemary is in the Lamiaceae family and they all have bilaterally symmetrical flowers.
>>4467782Don't tell me you've been putting that in your food.
>>4467813>>4467814Bruh that was literally sold as rosemary>>4467859Before flowering, for all intents and purposes it seemed like rosemary, I don't have photos from before that but I am attaching what I have of it below>>4467880Can't remember if I have, but we use mostly dried stuff so probably not. Why?
>>4467926Let's see the underside of the flower. It's important for identification.
>>4467931Those pics are all I have. This was last august and plant is not longer living. I can try posting the individual photos if that would help
My alocasia wentii has survived winter AND constant thrip damage. It has also a record of like 4 new leaves to it's oldest leaf falling off. And the latest leaf is the largeat of them all.Truly the most hardy out of the 5-7 ish types I've had.
>>4467931>Let's see the underside of the flower. It's important for identification.Yeah, sure is....Don't think so, prev.
>>4467926some variety of Portulaca with particularly rosemary-ish leaves maybe?
>>4467926plantnet said 32% zinnia, not likely
>>4468382No idea, the flower in your pic is almost identical. I was convinced it was rosemary mostly because there was another plant that is for sure rosemary and they looked practically identical before that flower came in, which happened kinda overnight
Could someone help me identify this plan on the left please?
What are good plants to make desk look nicer and more cozy which do not need a lot of sunlight?
>>4470001this list is quite useful if you scroll down the page, you can sort it from lowest to highest light requirementyour phone probably has a light sensor if you want to check how much light you actually have (no idea how accurate they are but it worked out ok for me)https://www.houseplantjournal.com/bright-indirect-light-requirements-by-plant/
I just fed my venus fly trap a fly. That is so cool.
>>4470000Checked for politeness
>>4470352>>4470000>Politeness gets the digits, for once.