Title says it allGive me your wildest theory relating to anything /an/ related, could be the origin of a species that is disputed or even relating to something current. Gloves are off
>>4452685Invasive species are a non-issue aside for a couple problematic species and is just a scapegoat for wider problems such as habitat loss and pollution.It also gives the government an excuse to further restrict our freedom by banning everything from the pet trade. Seriously, I went to one of my childhood petstores recently and its sad how little variety there is nowadays compared to just ten years ago.
monkeys are currently roaming civil society disguised as humans.
>>4452692Fuck the jigs upWe come in peace hooman
>>4452689I just want a pet bison man
>>4452685The existence of dinosaurs are a fabrication created by the smithsonian.
Covid-19 was deployed by aliens as a test to see if humans, now space-faring and capable of instant global communication, could work together as a species to solve a common problem.
Bigfoot/sasquatch are real and one of the few genuine cryptid, there are too many evidences to deny it now. Nobody believes it because the videos and pictures evidences are filtered on search engines and Youtube and are hidden behind countless mockumentaries and bullshit sightings.
>>4452752What other cryptids would you say are real? I've always liked the idea of a splinter cat
>>4452731Aliens actually want to see us progress through pain. The idea that they like to see peace and cooperation is pure myth, made up by humans trying to convince other to “impress god” in a new age way, largely for their own benefit. aliens have been fueling war and even giving us weapons since the start since they believe conflict is the only thing that can cause a being to adapt towards a more powerful and capable form. Whether it will be those that win or those that refuse to be destroyed is unknown.
>>4452772new version: aliens taught us how to make covid 19 because they thought it was cool
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>>4452769Thylacine (not extinct)Deepstar 4000 fishYeti
>>4452769british big cats
>>4452839What do you think they are? Mountain lions? Or an undescribed species of big cat/relic from the ice age?
>>4452842just escaped exotic pets, but I think there is some amount of covering up going on
>>4452685Veganism is given a spotlight to help venture capitalists profit more off of moralizing(thus irrational) people. Additionally the bug food stuff is done along similar lines but also likely because it's far easier to scale with economy of scale than traditional livestock.
>>4452752Come to PNW and go in the woodswhen you see a 15 foot tree, jammed into the earth upside down (roots sticking up), you realize that maybe the world is ancientThen you watch some videos, some hoaxes, but one or two you realize oh fuckThen you research the structuresThen you go innawoods again and see themThen you buy a gun, because bigfoot knows where political power grows from, and he fears it
>>4452752bigfoot is real and he's stealing our women
>>4452869>I think there is some amount of covering up going onThis.Same with cougar sightings in Eastern America where they should be extinct, although people who live in the Appalachians say they never went away and cougars from the west have been slowly migrating back into their former range. It's easier to pretend that they're not here or that they're simply just one random individual that decided to migrate 2,000 miles across the country for God knows why.
Here's a few I saw, I only agree with a few>Gorillas are fake, all the ones you see are people in suits>Fire breathing dragons 100% existed, it's known as the Ichthyosaur to most>Birds are NOT dinosaurs>Dinosaurs existed alongside people, they were hunted by man into extinction, not a meteor (meteor explanation makes 0 sense anwyays
>>4452769mothman is real and you can't convince me otherwise
>>4453576>Dinosaurs existed alongside people, they were hunted by man into extinction, not a meteor (meteor explanation makes 0 sense anwyaysI'm somewhat inclined to believe this because the Egyptians had what they called God Beasts
>>4452989That's not even a conspiracy theory anymore anon, that's just observable reality
>>4453682IDK about Dinosaurs, but I guarantee the ancients saw way more big "monster" animals than exist now. I wouldn't be surprised if 30'+ crocs were commonplace on the Nile before humans completely took over.
>>4453698For real, the bug stuff isn't some conspiracy, it's just capitalism.
>>4452769NTA but orang-pendek / ebu gogo seem like the most plausible account of an actual humanoid.Other than that, I think the most credible ones are known but recently extinct animals, like thylacines.I'm willing to believe that there is some kind of big eel or oarfish unknown to science and responsible for at least a few sea-serpent sightings.
>>4453698Fair enough. Here's a better one: We have plenty of solutions to global warming but green energy is such a profitable racket socially(makes people feel good to support it), politically and financially that we don't properly pursue any of the tech/projects to reverse global warming. One of the proposals that I've heard before was effectively using giant "chimneys" that pump heat up into the upper atmosphere where it'll radiate more rapidly and circumvent the greenhouse effect, in theory. There are other solutions too from looking at deep time, like how weathered basalt flood plains cool down the climate as the alkaline/alkali salts within them transform into their carbonate forms once exposed to water and then carbon dioxide(Think limestone, baking soda, etc.).
Multiple-origin theory of human evolution is essentially correct, most human races are the results of H. sapiens cross-breeding with other Homo species, so although we share a recent common ancestor, many of our genes are highly divergent. This explains massive differences in anatomy and behaviour among humans.Specifically, neanderthal-sapiens hybrids are Europeans, (most) Asians, and Native Americans (and differences between them are possibly the result of different neanderthal subspecies). Some Asians and most Pacific Islanders have Denisovan genes (possibly a result of Neanderthal-Denisovan hybrids mating with humans rather than direct Denisovan-Sapiens contact). So far, basically accepted by science.Now for the speculation. West Africans, Papua New Guineans and Australian Aboriginals have a lot of archaic genes, probably from either H. erectus or something fairly similar, and that's why they are less clever (or at least have smaller brains and less capacity for abstract thought) than northern races and have a more 'primitive' looking bone structure. Some Africans in the South-West of the continent (e.g. the San) possibly also had genes from even more distantly related species, maybe H. habilis or H. naledi, which explains why they have dismal intelligence and look really weird. Only small populations of East Africans (the Nilotic race) are actually 'pure' H. sapiens.
>>4454060>We have plenty of solutions to global warming but green energy is such a profitable racket socially(makes people feel good to support it), politically and financially that we don't properly pursue any of the tech/projects to reverse global warming.Actually, we've only got one proven reliable solution to global warming, but it is a good one: nuclear power plants. We could cut greenhouse emissions massively if we just invested in nuclear.The reason that 'greens' don't want to see nuclear power succeed is that the entire movement (like basically every leftist movement) was subverted from the start by the USSR. I can't prove this, but my grandparents were communist agents who spent quite a lot of time infiltrating various activist groups, encouraging them to push for ineffective solutions, and building hysteria around things like nuclear power. I think the theory was that by spreading misinformation, democracies would be hampered from developing, giving the soviets an advantage. In the specific case of nuclear power, it also hampered the West's ability to build nuclear weapons, both through stigmatising everything 'nuclear' and because there was some kind of nuclear reactor which produced weapons-grade material as a by-product (don't remember the exact details).Unfortunately a lot of them 'got high on their own supply' and started actually believing the stories they were spreading. Now we've got a run-away set of stupid ideas which are self-perpetuating, slowly throttling Western civilization.
>>4454068See, I completely agree with you that nuclear power plants are a huge solution but there's just not enough U238 in the world to shift the majority of power production to it. There is a better solution, the more advanced nuclear "fission" reactors that are being looked into. Namely sub-critical reactors/energy amplifiers. I've done my own calculations with current in use tech and if you take some generous assumptions with designs then you could already produce energy gain with tech that we have. It's all a bit untested though and there's a risk of a "criticality accident" that may or may not exist.I would also put forward that nuclear tech was hindered in no small part by fossil fuel profiteers as obvious natural gas and the like are extremely profitable in the energy sector. Also that weapons-grade material as a by-product definitely sounds like an energy amplifier system. You can essentially use them to make all sorts of even more radioactive elements or to enrich something like uranium to become plutonium.
Inbreeding is a huge factor in human evolution. Neanderthals and H. florensis had huge problems with it, and many modern populations are dysfunctional at least in part because of their limited gene pool. We possibly out-competed neandethals only because they were so inbred. Among modern humans, Muslims and Jews are very inbred (I suspect that Jews have developed some cultural practises which limits the genetic problems this causes, as they are much higher IQ than other inbred populations), as are most black populations in the Americas and a surprising number in Africa too. Australian aboriginals are horrifically inbred, which is why they are basically the most dysfunctional race on earth. Gypsies / Romani may suffer a lot from it too.The 'Flynn Effect' is real (and represents overall increase in potential abstract reasoning), and is caused by reduction in inbreeding thanks to more social and physical mobility in the 20th century. The motor car is probably the invention most responsible for IQ increases.Sadly, the 20th century also saw many trends which suppressed human intelligence. Increased female choice in mate selection produced strong dysgenic pressure (men selected for good looks, 'dark triad' personality traits, not overall success), as did the rise of the welfare state (allowing less functional people to support more children), and increased female employment (smartest women have fewer children as they focus on career). Education systems actually got worse, as did childcare strategies, so people don't live up to their full potential. Migration resulted in more inbred enclave populations, growth of low intelligence groups (notably, West Africans), and Western countries being dragged down by large numbers of low-functional (high-crime, low earnings, overall tax burden, unable to contribute to technological progress) immigrants.
>>4454068>>4454072The main issue with nuclear power is that it is the first step towards nuclear weapons and they don't want to give that to every country.
>>4452685Hydrogen is high density lightAll elements are derivatives of Hydrogen My lil puppy dog is literally my sunshine.
>>4454082Yeah, for very widespread adoption. Most of the countries with giant economies(and thus high power usage) though tend to already have nuclear weapons. The UK, France(who does actually have a ton of nuclear reactors), the US, China, Russia, India, etc.. Also most 1st world countries could be trusted with these kinds of nuclear reactors as was evident with Germany, who has no nuclear weapons of its own but had nuclear reactors and is only really shutting them down over, ironically, environmental concerns(at least iirc).
>>4454082the main issue with nuclear power is that power plants are massive targets when a war breaks out.
>>4452685Thylacines didn't die out in the 1930s
>>4454476>he thinks blowing up a nuclear plant causes more damage than coal or similarRead a fucking book, anon.>>4454082The main waste producers, whether it's climate change impacting gasses or just environmentally damaging garbage, are China and India who already have (((the bomb))) so who gives a shit?
>>4454476I was about to say no one would be stupid enough to attack such a target for fear of the larger consequences to the region and their children 10 generations from now. But apparently Russia and the Ukraine are arguing over who shelled the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.. I guess slavs gonna slav! What an unfortunate time to be yuuro.
>>4452731>Current thing-No
cheetahs were formerly domesticated animals that were reintroduced into the wild like horses
>>4454072>>4454082that would be true 20 or 40 years ago, the newer stuff doesnt use weapons grade uranium anymore, the real reason why we dont, and not the cover story of nukes, is because big coal would lose a lot of money and it costs a lot of money for relatively large returns over the 40 year lifespan of the power plant
>>4455487Yeah, people kind of forget how much more powerful hydrogen bombs are and you can make the lithium deuteride from heavy water(which you can get from seawater or irradiated water) and lithium. It's theoretically possible to make hydrogen bombs without using a fissile explosive to impose the fusion reactions too. Primarily the fission bomb within those setups, from what I remember, is meant to very suddenly release a large amount of x-rays into the lithium deuteride which is also confined. There are plenty of ways to make an excessive amount of x-rays and honestly the NIF is very certainly doing their work with x-ray lasers in part for that reason, even if it's not what they'll directly/public admit/state.
>evolution and survival of the fittest is the correct theor-picrel, i'm not so sure buddy. I mean this is an apex animal we're talking about here. lookin more fat than fit.
>>4453698Here's my crazy conspiracy theory:People are attached to their habits and quick pleasures, and don't like being criticized for it. As a reaction they develop borderline schizophrenic lines of thinking to shift the blame onto others.
>>4453699Why is Africa so powerful and immune to humans?
>>4457866If I had to guess it's likely because all of those animals there in Africa evolved alongside with humans. Notice how hippos and such are so absolutely intolerant of people's bullshit? It's likely that the megafauna of many of the places people eventually migrated to were just not as adapted to be wary of and violent towards humans. Also as far as I'm aware The Younger Dryas didn't impact Africa as much as many other areas.
Autism is an evolutionary step forward.
>>4457866Wrong way to look at things, the real question is what's wrong with every other continent. If you can't deal with murder chimps, you deserve to die. Settlers did nothing wrong, marsupials/mammoths/glyptodons/ground sloths etc. had it coming.
>>4452989Meat isn't cost effective no matter how good it is for you, basically. MSM acceptance of veganism always, always says "WE COULD FEED 8 BILLION MORE". Why do we want 8 billion more? That's more emissions, more land use, or everyone lives below the poverty line to the point of having to live at work for "efficiency".Oh wait.
>>4457940and if people ate the amount and kind of meat that was actually good for them it would be even less cost effectivepigs feedlots are more profitable than birds in pastures
>>4457891I believe this theory as well but it still raises a few questions. What do african animals actually do that works so well against humans? Fight or flight is always the way to respond to danger.
>>4457974If I had to guess a combination of an innate fear/aggression towards humans plus instincts adapted to be wary of things that are out of place(I.E. to better look out for traps). From what I understand too many large animals in Africa are nocturnal(at least partially), like hippos and lions. Hippos prefer to forage, out of the water, at night. Lions hunt primarily at night. Hyenas as well are primarily nocturnal hunters. Meanwhile, it could be assumed that many of the megafauna in other continents without homo sapiens were primarily diurnal.
>>4457866Humans haven't been in Africa long enough to tame it.
I think all life started around the same time and that we were designed biologically to micromanage on a genetic and phenotype level and that the fossil record is far too incomplete to make educated guesses onThe exact origin can be left up in the air though
>>4454914suck my ass
I believe that in this century it will be proven that organisms can use their consciousness to direct their own evolution at a degree significantly faster than random mutations.
>>4458349Some can. Some can not. The rapid evolution of man, faster and more dramatic than any speciation event, was caused by our own intelligence. We weren't aware of selective breeding at the time but we were aware we wanted the world to be a certain way, so we purposefully killed the kind of people we didn't want in it, while giving women (even as slaves if we had to) to the kind of people we wanted more of as a reward for being great.At some point, just because of superior awareness, mankind stopped naturally evolving. Because of his superior awareness, but also because an instinctive thought pattern got switched around. Humans comprehend cause and effect in reverse. The self is not perceived as the effect, but the primary cause.This behavior is what I consider evidence for and the point of full self awareness. Not a vague sense that you exist in the world, not just your physical location relative to nearby items, not just being able to acknowledge that it is not another dog in the mirror, but the whole me, myself, I, as something that has power over the world.So we aren't really fucked until the crows start holding executions among themselves.
>>4452685This rat is perfect.
>>4452816fucking institute and their damn synths
>>4458349Consciousness and language are already used to guide evolution. Humans don't need to wait for random mutations to happen, we just make something to cover up a weakness. Think of all the illnesses and disorders that wouldn't exist if those people just died out naturally.
>>4458355This, environment guides evolution and humans dominate the environment, therefore we control not just our evolution but all the other species' as well because of our great impact on earth
Everything that has DNA is the same species.
>>4454072>but there's just not enough U238 in the world to shift the majority of power production to it.seawater extraction has already been figured out, and the seafloor maintains a equilibrium with the concentration so we can't deplete it (before the sun turns red).a real issue is that many countries won't be trusted to have nuclear power, and not for safety concerns, but proliferation and energy independence concerns.and a lot of people haven't figured out how to get filthy rich off it, so they will always oppose it's mass-adoption as "uneconomical"
>>4458793Things just tend towards evolving to be more friendly towards us too. See pigeons, house cats and almost certainly racoons are trending that way with their rise in popularity and people feeding them more and more often. Any place with friendlier animals just means that more are going to get fed from people who like animals.
>>4457838you may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like
>>4457930I'd have thought autism is associated with reduced reproductive success, at least in males.
>>4452685>Sasquatch are real, they appear through rare chasms within nature, usually rock archways, tree archways, etc. But not strictly limited to archways could just be two trees side by side. I've been trying to study this phenomenon in the rocky mountains. These portals dont seem to be predictable, the best I can hypothesize is where ever they come from, Im assuming another dimension, its dimension must synchronize up with that physical spot in both our dimensions, for it to open. People pass through these and go missing a lot without explanation. I think most end up dying, I think some choose to remain by choice, unsure. The Dogman is an asshole, its not a dog-like species at all it appears more like a baboon version of sasquatch with the aggression to match. >There are herds of camels within the forests of the canadian rockies, unsure if extinct american camel or escaped modern day camels. >Weird exremely rare animal, very wolf-like but has a tail like a mountain lion. Its very large, larger then both. Idk I cant tell if its a feline or canine. It resembles some like ice age stuff I guess, but not really. Only seen it once.>Various mammoth graveyards can be found in the rockies as well. Only a few backcountry hikers know the location. >Ogopogo is a stergeon, but like a giant one, the size should be considered a cryptid alone. Local fishermen showed me where it resides using water camera and tracking we found it, it was 47 ft long. I have more stories from my journies but those are the animal based ones.
>>4457940population growth = economic growth = money for nothin' if you already own capital
>>4459083It's heightened but only in rules based european and east asian societiesWhen you bring in the "hit on girls, dance, and laugh" shit from africa and the latin world all of a sudden autists are squares and you need to hoot, holler, and tell jokes with less than two sentences.
>>4452752What's bigfoots evolutionary history? There are no apes in new world and no monkeys in its supposed range for millions of years.
>>4452685Werewolf, wendigo and bigfoot are Homo Sapiens which suffer from genetic, prion, parasitic or chromosomal disease which deactivares/activates genes responsible for human neoteny. They are essentially what salamander is to axolotl: fully adult form for that shouldn't be.
>>4452685Hans Wormhat's conspiracies are always fun.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DK5nu071YY
>>4460941https://web.archive.org/web/20210622100250/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoFDSHyv4fg
>>4460932Well if the Alaskan Boneyard has taught us anything, is many animals existed there/ here that werent believed to have been.
>>4460915>>4454075>i am too smart to get pussy
>>4461176Yes. Unintelligent females are simply too intimidated by my overwhelming intellect. It is my cross to bear.
>>4453585manmoth?
>>4460893>>Weird exremely rare animal, very wolf-like but has a tail like a mountain lion. Its very large, larger then both. Idk I cant tell if its a feline or canine. It resembles some like ice age stuff I guess, but not really. Only seen it once.Brings the ol' Cynognathus to mind. I've heard stories of these guys being alive in small pockets out there somewhere.
>>4457930It's not a step forward so much as an extremey useful trait at low concentrations in society. Autists ar best at running highly technical stuff so everyone benefits when they do so, most neurotypical people don't have the ability to stay on a demanding task as long. A civilization with no autists can't take advantage of their talents, one with too many disintegrates under their weakness to social manipulation.There's a meme about autists being immune to propaganda but this isn't correct. They're less connected to the social game so don't change opinions as quickly under pressure BUT once convinced into believing falsehoods they're the least likely to be able to walk back out of destructive beliefs.
>>4452685Pigs are actually humans that have been gmo'd far into the futures by winners of a war as a punishment and put back into the past to be eaten by their peers as a way to humiliate our kind.
>>4461751Looked nothing like those, looked like a giant wolf but with odd feline characeristics.
>>4452752I subscribe more to the theory that bigfoots are aliens or associate more with the paranormal world than the cryptid world.Even then I think cryptids make more sense as the "ghosts" of extinct animals rather than living beings.
Lyme disease was made in a lab
>>4452752>>4452769I'd like to believe Mothman is real
>>4452689>First sentence is a reasonable argument >Second sentence segues into yet another Yank persecution masturbation fantasy of 'gubbermint want ma freeduns'Ya fucking blew it.
>>4457866The locals live there just fine.European ancestors migrated out of there and became adapted to the European continent, which has a completely different climate, fauna and diseases. So when Europeans started pisssing around in Africa again they dropped like fucking flies.Seriously, the whole reason Africa was considered the Dark Continent was that it couldn't be explored as European exploration parties would keep dropping dead from fevers, malaria, and other horrible diseases they'd lost resistance to. It's only in the 19th century when antivirals were being developed that it could be explored.
>>4463309>European ancestors migrated out of therenope
>>4463301Prove me wrong retard. Look at how Florida banned literally EVERY single species of animal from being imported unless it's on a list proving its harmless.
>>4463329doesn't change a thing when every animal is already being bred and exported from Florida
>>4463322do you truly believe we share entirely distinct ancestors? whatever distinctions exist between races, it seems obvious that if you go far enough back, those distinctions were formed from a common medium. the continent it happened on is probably irrelevantbut even if that is true, it's fairly clear that the origin of our species was in africa as well
The golden ratio animals are just shops and convenient angles.
>>4463367wrong
>>4457850>literally meuhoh
>>4457850Anon, it's not a conspiracy. People are openly calling for the entire population to be malnourished because even though meat reduction is nutritionally correct, it is not maximally capital efficient, and the only way current economic systems can avoid collapse is with perpetual population growth. They've been running articles calling for this in pop sci rags for a decade. Politicians have been advised on it.Although vegans may have worse brain function and need increasingly extravagant and exacting diets to get anywhere close to the physical condition of someone who just eats a single fucking trout a week, they are much cheaper to feed, and work well enough to staff a factory and reproduce. And the rich can afford the time and money for that extravagance - or just, yknow, eating meat. They earned it, chud. Work harder and maybe you can earn it too.
>>4464656the same pop sci rags that think we should only use electricity in our homes for 3 to 4 hours a day, and if stuff needs refrigerated it should be kept at the store until we need it, "for the climate"store nothingdo not rely on yourselfyou will take up more space and resources like an individually wrapped candybarlet us handle everything in bulkthings will be cheaper as wellcapitalism = early stage marxism = early, early stage faminehumans literally never learn
>>4452769molemen
>>4461767>>4460915>>4461180autist are a complementary evolution , the human sneaky male .Autist made the tools , build the fires , and when the hunters were out hunting and the autist was basket weaving he got a little side action with the basket girls .
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>>4464743Autism correlates with androgenic development/traits though, doesn't it? Wouldn't it be the other way around? Autistic men being the hunters and the sneaky males being the ones who stay behind?
Modern Coleoidea species are ‘degenerate’ relics compared to the actual intelligence their ancestral species had. Intelligent life first evolved in the oceans, basically, and they likely got intelligent enough to basically wipe themselves mostly out at some point in the Cambrian era
>>4464781fire = metalworking = toolsI'm afraid aquatics are cucked at the non-existent knees, unless their technological development was completely different to ours. Perhaps something related to acoustical harmonics developing a point source, but that's just pure speculation.
>>4464795Living underwater sucks for technological development even before discovering fire. Any mallable material deteriorates quickly under water. As a result there's no water equivalent of ants for example.
>>4458355>So we aren't really fucked until the crows start holding executions among themselves.>He doesn't know why they call it a parliament of rooks.
>>4464827Well there are eusocial crustaceans, if you mean it in a eusocial sense. There are other ways to potentially see technological development though, first and foremost would start with domestication of other fauna/flora. Also materials that don't deteriorate are quite abundant in the ocean -- like corals and seashells. Beachrock also is present and can be carved and molded. Also in response to >>4464795 we had tools(sticks and rocks) before we had fire. Fire is incredibly useful for improving upon things but there are potentially other means of producing technological advances without necessarily relying on fire. Harmonics and also potentially wave interference are some interesting things to think about though.
>>4464917the simple act of hitting two rocks together hard enough to break and shape them is basically impossible underwater. it's also extremely difficult to build anything that can stand up to ocean currents, due to the density of the medium there is a lot more force behind the motion than with wind
>>4452752How can people honestly believe in “cryptids” in the age of privately owned drones and massive surveillance? Deep sea or underground creatures? Sure. But a large humanoid creature living on the surface just seems hard to be missed.
>>4452685Featherfags are heteronormative and totally not-Asian.
>>4464953we aren't putting "massive surveillance" in the woods and drones are useless for spotting wildlife. most consumer models are loud as fuck and you can't fly them below the canopy anyway
>>4464795>Perhaps something related to acoustical harmonics developing a point source, but that's just pure speculation.explain
>>4464827>>4464925what about structures concealed in the sea floor?
>>4465020I guess it would be theoretically possible for something like an intelligent cephalopod to have elaborate underground tunnel complexes beneath the sea floor. It would have to be able to survive for extended periods of time out of water, and exploit that by somehow creating chambers of air in the tunnels where it could apply terrestrial solutions to the problems of making tools and shelter. Or they could just be more clever than us.
>>4452996>because bigfoot knows where political power grows fromThat's chilling.
>>4464925Well I'm not suggesting they do flaking and it's not necessarily impossible. Beachrock and the like for example are softer rocks as they're mostly carbonate and denser, harder rocks exist in the ocean(basaltic rocks as an example). You also don't necessarily need to defiantly resist ocean currents so much as redirect them. It would even be to their benefit to utilize the structure to allow an ocean current to constantly push water through their structure as it would keep oxygenated and clean water in ready supply. I'd also put forward that some animals do actually carve into beachrock, like some kinds of urchin do. https://phys.org/news/2018-02-sea-urchins-erode-reefs-excavate.html>>4465020This is also a great idea too. My only issue might be that beachrock actually forms usually just underneath the surface of a lot of coastal waters. Some areas would be better suited to it than others, like any basaltic island in the middle of the ocean would be a horrible place for trying to build structures out of anything other than some kind of glued together carbonates.>>4465204I mean I honestly see the air pockets being not too hard of a leap to make for them. Many cephalopods can survive some time out of water too and it wouldn't be too much of a jump for some cephalopods to make/utilize tidal pools for their own forms of agriculture. Tidepools are, after all, natural pens in which flora and fauna are trapped in for prolonged periods. So any aquatic animal that can exploit said structures can thusly get more food either by using them like passive traps or expanding upon them to get more tide pool dependent organisms to harvest.
>>4464745Gem
>>4454075>>4460915More gems
>>4452724Why? Just get cows
>>4454918This actually makes a lot of sense. Cheetahs are much more docile and generally have a sweeter temperament than most primitive dog breeds, let alone other cats. And there's plenty of historical accounts of them being kept as pets in antiquity.
>>4464781I mean, cephalopod intelligence is a massive can of worms, but it'd be rather interesting if, in line with your thinking, that they're 'degenerate' because, broadly speaking, those species which are most commonly associated with the tropics/shallows generally live shorter lives than their deep-sea cousins, which would hinder a lot of 'creativity' in regards to actually being able to utilize their intellects in a way that'd encourage things in line with, say, the ability to actually control their environment like >>4465290 touched on. Just the ability to recognize parts of a 'territory' which isn't entirely within their control (the ability to recognize a tide pool is inaccessible to them and others of their kind at low tide on a intellectual level) would be a massive game changer. That said, if any octopod species or a relative ever figured out the mechanics of the intertidal zone, it's entirely possible that species could've gotten too specialized for it's own good, particularly in terms of being unable to cope with some mass extinction or another.
>>4452769I think there may be big cats in England and possibly Japanese wolves still kicking around
>doveland, Wisconsin>planes aren’t real>mountains are big trees>simpsons is real>evil dusty clown Solar plexus>Miley Cyrus body double>water is sentient>golf rumors>runescape New York
>>4466973OP mean /an/ related theories. Not Modem files from /x/.I miss the Modem threads...
>>4452752post evidence
>>4458349It's called sexual selection.
>>4453576>Fire breathing dragons 100% existed, it's known as the Ichthyosaur to mostOf all the things you could have claimed were actually dragons and not what we're told they were, how did you choose the one that looks like a dolphin?
pitbulls are purposely bred to kill people to decrease the population in the US
>>4454918That's totally awesome. Even better if they were originally just fairly average large cats and the whole super-speed thing was deliberate breeding like with greyhounds.>>4460935This is great too.
>>4454918I can definitely see it being the truth, much like >>4465485 said. I imagine their real shortfall being that they can't really eat as many carbs like dogs can and thus dogs would be at an advantage to overtake them with the spread of agriculture.
>>4452685The weight of sauropods is vastly overestimated, I'd wager even the biggest bastards like Argentinosaurus don't tip the scales at much more than 30 tons, and most are probably facultative bipeds excluding the obvious front-heavy types like Brachiosaurus, which could certainly rear up like in Jurassic Park but obviously couldn't walk in such a position.Also sauropods were much more common and gregarious than is traditionally considered, most media portrays them as the rare "elephant herd" or "lone giraffe" in the ecosystem when they were the primary fauna biomass - sauropods should be in the herds of thousands, or tens of thousands, or more, they're the wildebeest or zebra of the mesozoic
>>4468588Well we do know that they were at least lighter than water(in terms of density) and since theropods had weight-reduction mechanisms then I can definitely see those being selected for more and more with sauropods. After all, the more empty space that you have inside of your body, the less you need to feed. However don't we have sauropod track fossils that could be used as an objective measure of their weight? I also don't see why it would make sense for sauropods to be in herds of thousands as from what I understand those herds in Africa are largely in a temporary sense. Having such a large number of individuals occupying such a small area is a recipe for starvation, which is why just about all herding animals only herd in massive numbers temporarily(like to migrate in safety or for mating) as far as I'm aware.
>>4464656>They earned it, chud. Work harder and maybe you can earn it too.What leftists argues like that?
>>4466857Britbong here, I've seen a black panther walking through a field. No it wasn't a dog or a moggy, I'm on fucking /an/ I know what a panther moves like.I think sightings are more common, it's just that people don't want to report it. When I mentioned my panther sighting to a friend she admitted she saw one several years ago, but never told anyone as she thought nobody would believe her. The actual number of sightings is probably way higher than is actually reported.
>>4452692just wait till you see detroit.
We have a vast amount of undiscovered microbe species that have different common ancestor from bacteria and archea. But since they don't form large colonies and don't show up on metagenomics studies, there are no simple way to detect them.
>>4469732but they would be eventually caught on microscope
>>4452989>thusStopped reading right there
>>4452769idc how many deboonkers will say billi apes don't exist, the congo has probably been less explored and touched by humans than the amazon, and if there are any mysteries on land, it has to be in the congo
>>4453421people legit expect us to believe the barren vast boreal forests that have been less explored than the moon and mars in northern quebec and ontario have no more cougars in the because of hunting, and sightings and captured specimens are just escaped pets
>>4463366>>4463322these retards literally think races are entirely different genus despite race mixing producing generations of fertile offspring
>>4469732I mean as far as>But since they don't form large colonies and don't show up on metagenomics studiesFrom what I remember that's an issue with a lot of extremophiles but you might be interested to hear that there is something that almost fits into what you're proposing. https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/04/lots-of-viruses-have-a-distinct-form-of-dna-with-its-own-base/>>4470380Oh, you poor baby.
>>4470616races don't really exist on a taxonomic level, it would be more accurate to call them "breeds"
>>4452769There's definitely big cats in the UK.
>>4470609I believe billis were confirmed to exist, but also to just be an isolated population of chimps not too long ago. They're genetically distinct from other chimps, but just barely.
>>4470784Why are people so eager to dismiss this? Any time it gets in the news people pile on to debunk it. It's not like it's some unthinkable horror or something.
>>4470797nah I mean the full on >semi bipedal>larger>smarter>lion killing>different skull>make spears type, I mean you have bigfoot retards swearing up and down that bigfoot exist but claim bili apes don't to feign credibilitynah, bili apes are much more likely, the congo is extremely remote, much more than the amazon, there were no civilizations, (just scattered tribes) in the congo, so its probably the least touched rainforest on earth
>Evolution happens faster than we expect. Radiocarbon dating of fossils is heavily flawed. The history of life on earth can be measured in hundreds of thousands of years.Dont know that i believe it. But I absolutely believe that the concept of "endangered species" is extemely flawed in application. It assumes there is a "normal" population level for any given species without considering what that might be. A lot of recency bias in the discussion surrounding population levels. Also a lot of politics being played when populations return to areas they were once thought to have left.
>>4470915Long cat.
>>4470915>The history of life on earth can be measured in hundreds of thousands of years.I've been wondering this for a long time, because the theory of everything evolving from microorganisms just seems absurd even on a billion years scale
>>4470915We don't use radiocarbon dating for things that are over 100k years old, we have to use other forms of isotopic dating.>>4471156We've watched multicellularity evolve in the lab before. https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-have-witnessed-in-real-time-a-single-celled-algae-evolve-into-a-multicellular-organism Evolution cycles between rapid bursts and slow burns, which is why you can see massive radiation of species and forms happen after a mass extinction and then for the majority of that time afterwards things change very little in comparison.
>>4471273Interesting
>>4452692you know too much,.....
>>4454918>>4468579My guess is that they were released back into the wild during the Bronze Age Collapse. You don’t really see them depicted living together with humans after that. >>4469703>>4470784>>4470814With how aggressive the media seems to be in suppressing this, I imagine that they’re escapees of some billionaire’s unknown-to-the-public fuckhuge hedonism complex. Or they’re intentionally released to keep bongs on their toes, who knows.
The Tully Monster was part of a failed sister group to the vertebrates The Blue Hole Octopus is real The 52-herz whale is a remnant member of a prehistoric cetacean species rather than a hybrid between a blue whale and fin whale
>>4472155Honestly I really do wonder if the tully monster wasn't just a completely separate group of organisms that first diversified in the Cambrian that we just don't have fossils for. I definitely would love to see a good investigation of blue holes and their cave systems though. At the very least it should turn up new, weird invertebrates and if the Lusca does exist in those systems then it'd be a huge find, literally.
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>>4464956>and you can't fly them below the canopy anywayWhat does that have to do with anything?
>>4452752bigfoot is a meme but Rock Apes in south east asia are real and some form of proto-denisovan or derived from orangutans
>>4474206bigfoots aren't known for coming out of the woods
>>4468772Yo mama
>>4471666>to keep bongs on their toeswe should air drop care packages full of live wolves into the british countryside
