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>oriental edition
cont. from: >>4434617
This thread is dedicated to all animals of the reptilia and amphibia classes. Topics include, but are not limited to: geckos, snakes of all kinds, frogs, salamanders, newts, turtles, tortoises, and much more. Before asking a question, do a search on the internet to see if it has been answered
Classifieds for finding breeders and products:
>morphmarket.com
>kingsnake.com
>faunaclassifieds.com
>reptilescanada.com (Canadian breeders)
>caudata.org
Most forums will have a "for sale" section on them, so look for that, especially if you have a specific herp you want. Craigslist can also be a good source for cheap aquariums, and make sure to check for any reptile expos that occur in your area.

When asking a question, make sure to include these details:
>Type and size of animal
>Enclosure dimensions
>Humidity and temperature
>Type of substrate
>The decor you use
>How often you feed
>The type of food you use
>If your animal is wild caught or captive bred
>How often you handle
>Who you bought the animal from

Other Helpful Resources
www.blackjungleterrariumsupply.com
www.joshsfrogs.com
http://www.reptilesmagazine.com
http://www.anapsid.org
http://www.hylid.clara.co.uk/caer.htm
https://www.americanmadeexotics.com/breeding-ball-pythons-article.html
http://blogs.thatpetplace.com/thatreptileblog/
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What small lizard would make the most of a walk in enclosure?
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>>4446126
Tree monitor?
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aesthetic OP
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just had a big ass iguana walk into my yard and try to get inside my house in an attempt to escape from my neighbors. I didn't know these fuckers attacked you with their tails I thought was a pokemon thing only Lmao. The poor fucker was really scared so I didn't have to do much to chase it away thankfully.

Don't ask about muh animal control that doesn't exist here and I can't adopt an animal like that
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>>4446349
>I didn't know these fuckers attacked you with their tails
Oh yes. They are quite good at getting the whip snap with them. And it hurts.
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One thing I appreciate about herps is their life expectancies. Most of them (barring tortoises on one extreme end that live forever and shit like chameleons on the other extreme that basically drop dead at the turn of a clock) seem to have pretty reasonable expectancies. You have some on the lower end that go about as long as dogs, which is still somewhat tragically short. But then you have some that can live into their 20s and 30s. It feels like enough time to take care of a herp, get to know it, and have it be part of your life without wondering "who's going to take care of it after I die of old age?"
Idk, it's a weird thought I had today, but I think it's important and part of your ability to enjoy caring for them. Especially if you have a species that you enjoy interacting with or even just having on display.
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>>4446376
Yeah, I acknowledged them in my post. Beautiful creatures, but fuck do they have too short a lifespan.
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I LOVE BEING A RACKNIGGER
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>>4446349
>I can't adopt an animal like that
You dont want to anyway. Green iguanas make terrible pets.
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>>4446425
>be me
>buy expensive and heavy glass tanks
>discover 4/$100 41qt tubs with those max security weathertight lids
>realize everyone with half a brain uses them
>be sad
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What's the best way of keeping humidity up in a vertical tank? Do I have to resort to getting something like an automatic mister?
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>>4445900
He made a 1 hour livestream vid about his spider ball video because of you.
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>>4446581
Get with the times old man. Jk anon. To each their own. As long as you own herps I’ll still be your Fren.
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>>4446583
Cover at least 75% of the screen top with foil, if it has vents below the door (exo terra) put scotch tape over those. At least 4 inches of coco fiber substrate. Mist daily.
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>>4446506
Very nice work anon.

>>4446614
bald leaf cuck btfo by anon
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>>4446583
>Do I have to resort to getting something like an automatic mister?
Automatic misters are awesome, I've got mine hooked up to a networked power controller. Sometimes I dial in to give my gecko a quick squirt just for the hell of it. I watch him enjoy it via the webcam, it's a little bit lewd how much he likes it.
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>>4446795
What type of gecko? Pics? I love smol lizzers

>>4446583
Vertical is easier than horizontal imo, less top surface area. But yeah, misting and covering part of the lid. Climist is an alternative to MistKing that's just as good, idk if any of the other auto misters are. Foggers are shit and don't provide the main benefits of mist
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My boy just did his first shed perfectly. I am so proud of my short little friend.
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>>4446069
>Boa escaped just to find a lonely spot to die
I'm broken.
I had her for years as an adult... She was always so social, loved being held. Now she won't warm up no matter how much I hold her.

I can't put her in her favorite up high spot anymore.

Five years after I got her as an adult.
She just shed...
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Is there a cooler lizard than the northern caiman lizard???? I doubt it. This dude likes to swim together with the fishes. Sad thing is that you have to be a richfag to be able to have him as a pet.
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>>4447359
My condolenses anon. I lost mine last year and it's never easy.
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i posted a few threads ago about considering getting a night mode camera to spy on my lizard, i got one on sale for 15 bucks with discounts so i said why not. already paid off when i swiveled it when the motion detector went off and let me know he was awake. He did a WHAT THE FUCK? double take when he saw the camera move.

In other news he loves watermelon flavor pangaea. started eating way more the second i started feeding pangaea. I think it must be sweeter than repashy, it smells that way for sure.
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>>4446583
>resort to
go buy one of the no-reservoir ones on amazon or whatever and plug it into a 5 gallon bucket with a lid. Whole system cost under 50 bucks, shit's a major life upgrade.
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>>4447359
sorry to hear that king
>>4447513
based
>>4447455
they are amazing but I feel like monitors and tegus match them

guys is it cruel to break up a breeding pair of lil long tailed lizards?
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>>4447455
Tegus are pretty awesome. Saw this one at a store today but I don't have nearly the space for it.

The store had like six adult bearded dragons that had recently been turned in, it was kinda sad but that's what petstragram causes.
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>>4448339
>petstragram
there are a lot of beardie channels where they think it's SO CUTE that they head bob with black beards all the time

I'm like uh, maybe don't stress them out so much?
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Phillips florescent bulbs are NOT safe to use as a basking bulb dont listen to what ever reddit or reptile magazine says. That shit doesn't emit heat and got almost 300 hundred degrees and started to melt the metal bulb holder I had it plugged into.
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>>4448448
based
>MBK bubble status: burst
>hognose bubble status: burst
gekko gecko is the next big thing, I can feel it
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>>4448464
Tokays will never take off as a popular pet. People are generally not equipped to handle them. Reptile shop has tokay on sale for 20 bucks, is sold and returned a few times, same story always. It takes patience and dedication to calm them down to the point that they aren't going to come flying out of nowhere to remove chunks of skin from your fingers without warning.
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>>4448447
the fuck are you on about
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>>4448447
>doesn’t emit heat
>reaches 300 degrees
Huh?
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>>4448447
Maybe, a wiring issue on your end?
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>>4448474
if you will it, it is no dream
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/hoard/ bros report in. this $10 dude is d e l i g h t f u l
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He neato
He keto
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>>4449048
>/hoard/ bros
This is why god doesn't talk to us anymore
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>>4449049
>>4449048
>pretty lizzer with plastic hide and fake plant
It's a good thing animals don't feel suffering
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>>4449160
Nothing wrong with plastics if you use them right. Given this is hoarder anon he clearly ISN'T using them right and it's almost a certainty there's no more than two other objects in the whole of this critter's "just at or slightly below whatever pettube e-celeb he's currently dick riding's size recommendation" fish tank, but still.
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>>4448448
crested gecko
>science doesnt even know how to categorize these fags, switched genus several times
>thought to be extinct for 100+ years, nobody really noticed
>considered a disgusting cursed creature by indigenous peoples of its homeland
>conservation status: near threatened despite being protected from the pet trade and having no other commercial purpose (its getting killed by fucking ANTS lol)
>will eat its own babies if given the opportunity, soulless NPC, probably has weird sex fetishes and supports gay marriage
>cant grow its tail back, God decided this pathetic creature would probably die before it grew back in anyways
>homeland is a colony of FRANCE (lol!), never did shit

tokay gecko
>gekko gecko, described by Linnaeus himself. Complete taxanomical dominance on the level of rattus rattus, it is confirmed to be THE gecko
>beloved by the local population who consider them good luck, believe they turn into dragons
>conservation status: least concern despite being an ingredient in chinese traditional medicine and mass harvested for the pet trade
>offers parental care, cares about building a powerful legacy and strong traditional families
>Homeland is free and independent. Engaged in guerilla warfare against French and American occupiers, being known as the "Fuck you" lizard
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>>4449256
>considered a disgusting cursed creature
I've always felt this way, I just do not understand the crestie fandom
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>how I sleep knowing my slave monkey is a hoarder
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>Upgrade enclosures in november
>switch out of an abortive attempt at going bioactive, ecosystem crahsed and ended up giving two of my snakes a bacterial infection, one of which is still fighting off six months later
>regular ol' cypress now
>notice the poop/urates rate isnt as crazy as I thought it would be
>cleaning up a few weeks ago I notice springtails
>must have hidden in a crack in a cork tube, thats odd, but hey free cleanup assistance, sure
>doing maintenence today
>isopods in the substrate
>I fucking blasted every scrap of decor with 130 degree water and scrubbed them with antibacterial soap and somehow there's a population of isopods or a clutch of eggs or something that lived through that shit and are now camping out in the cypress, under my slate chunks
I am amazed. And also not really sure what to do when I have to replace some of this cypress mulch soon.
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>>4449692
Once they're there, they're there. Are you trying to get rid of them? I can't imagine they're causing any harm, even if they're not necessary for a full carbon cycle.

If you're worried about removing them on accident, don't. Just do your thing, and pick out any visible ones when you do changes to toss back into the enclosure, but if they've made it this far they're going to be fine.
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Less that I dont want them there and more that I'm surprised I got hitchhikers on decor that somehow survived said decor getting washed in hot water and placed into an entirely different enclosure not designed to keep them alive. At the moment Im treating it as free cleanup help, and hoping I dont disturb them too much when I swap out substrate later.
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My wife's snakes :)
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>>4449752
Beautiful!
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>>4449752
Nice snakes! Your wife's boyfriend must be impressed.
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>>4449753
Dayum
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>>4448474
>It takes patience and dedication to calm them down to the point that they aren't going to come flying out of nowhere to remove chunks of skin from your fingers without warning.

That is true for wild caught ones or untamed ones.

There are already Tokay morphs out there that are totally docile and calm.
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>>4449753
>>4449752
That is the most beautiful corn snake I have ever seen. Holy crap.
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>>4449753
>>4449752
Wtf i love corn snakes now

Is that an amel tessera?
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whomst awakens me
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what kind of snake would make me more attractive to a female snake autist?
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>>4450004
This is entirely the wrong reason to get a pet that you will need to take care of for decades
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>>4450042
This guy's right.
But venomous anything is your answer.
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I missed this guy, he just shed. He's looking a little chonk and I don't want a giant wet shit sitting in his tank over the weekend when I'm out of town. He's gonna have to wait a week for a mouse
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>>4450004
The one in your pants.
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>>4450245
>discover THIS
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>>4449752
Your wife’s taste in herps is excellent
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>>4449819
>There are already Tokay morphs out there that are totally docile and calm
The poor things have been smashed and slammed into non functioning. Tokays are not meant to be calm, a docile tokay is a broken tokay
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>>4449910
The green one waketh
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Are products like picrel a complete meme? Or a viable alternative to frozen mice?
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>>4450609
Everything Ive seen has pretty much just been a "depends on the reptile" kind of situation. Some dont seem to understand what the fuck the wierd food cylinder is, others have grabbed that shit with such gusto that they split the casing and get shit everywhere.
From a cost perspective it doesnt make a lick of fucking sense as a rodent alternative apart from a treat. if your animal eats rodents, there isnt any logical reason to give them a sausage made from rodents instead, just give them rodents.
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>what do you use a s water dish for your adult Ball python?
I have a large tupper box she can also bathe in but it is ugly as sin. I need something beautiful!
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>>4450638
You could make your own with foam and epoxy, or buy a dog/cat bowl made of ceramic
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The Jew fears the indoor tortoise farmer.
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>>4450042
it wasn't a real question, just curious
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>>4450914
Nice. Them's good eatin'. Should be ready for slaughter in three or four decades.
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>>4450914
cute! did you get them new or do you have them for some time already?
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Put a rat in the fridge to thaw earlier. I check out the beast and he just shed. He looks great but fuck, how am I gonna get that skin out of his hide
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>>4451148
if you had more experience with your animals before just buying more and more of them you would probably be able to figure it out yourself. have fun with your spiky, aggressive monster.
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>>4451157
if you were a woman you wouldn't have a dick
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>>4451158
That's right, women dont have dicks, good job figuring that one out, sport. I dont know what that has to do with you being a shitty pet owner whose idiocy has put you far out of your depths with an animal that can and will do you serious harm, though.
I honestly dont know what you're expecting, here. You have steadfastly refused to listen to anything anyone here has ever told you, why in the fuck would anyone here help you now?
Actually, you know what, I have do have some advice for you. try to go limp, dont struggle too much or his teeth might tear into you more than he already will. try to make sure he doesn't wrap your arm, because then is ISNT gonna let go, and then put pressure on the wound and get someone to drive you do the hospital.
Or get a hook and put him into a containment tote you fucking moron.
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Boys I survived
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Next level pretty
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>>4451172
>arboreal snake
>enclosure that small
>one short horizontal log to climb
It’s all so tiresome
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>>4451199
>too small to thermoregulate properly
>arboreal species climbing opportunities that would be good for a ground-dwelling lizard
>no humid hide
>only enough substrate to cover the bottom of the aquarium tank, and the wrong kind
It's like he does everything wrong on purpose. I can wait for him to get an eastern diamondback and put in in a 20 gallon, then have it escape and bite a child. then his journey will be complete.
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>ambient 75-80
>heat pad 90
>humidity ~50%
>perfect shed
>36x18 for a snek <54"
>2 shelves and a log for climbing
damn this guy is based
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>>4451224
Maybe the carpet will sever his radial artery like that snake catcher who was bitten by a coastal
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>>4451230
Neck yourself.
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>>4451172
Why do you insist on having such dog shit enclosures? It’s obviously not a question of money since it costs nothing to go outside and grab an actually decent climbing branch instead of the tiny straight log that you have sat unsecured on two shelves
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they are almost 5 months old, do you think they are male and female? is it too early to determine?
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>>4451451
>plastron doesnt have much if any space for the dick
Not even remotely an expert but my guess is both female. What species? may be easier to compare against a known male.
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New monitor breeding video just dropped boys
https://youtu.be/WTjZsnXa2hI
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>>4451455
testudo hermanni
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>>4451474
Apparently 6-7 years or a 10cm shell length, but given pic related they migh both be male, given the thickness of the tail and the space between the plastron and shell. As they age see if their shapes start to diverge more. And of course if they ever evert their dicks thats obvious.
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>>4451423
Because he's a low IQ low moral fiber troglodyte who has never questioned his actions before in his life. Not uncommon in this hobby.
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>>4451172
>>4451199
>>4451423
>>4451511
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>>4451515
Your attempt to own being a hoarder as if you're trying to take it back os almost as pathetic as the "muh tranny" non-arguments you're also fond of shitting out.
Also you seem to not realize that that meme is based on Skinner being in denial of his own incorrect attitude, so you are not only using it wrong, but youre using it in the opposite of the correct way. That's almost like a theme for you.
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>>4451525
Anon, I'm not the hoarder, and the meme is making fun of the hoarder being a tard. Sometimes a stick is just a stick.
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>>4451525
unhinged
>>4451423
easy to break down and clean, and they're just not dogshit, never have been. rackfags have normal ass healthy snakes and I have way more stuff than they do
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>>4451172
The snake needs at least be able to stretch out, or you allow daily exercise outside.
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How would you approach socializing your little GTP?
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>>4451601
Jump out at it while it's sleeping, move suddenly and jerkily, always approach from above
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>>4451451
males have a stronger tails and a "horn" as a tail end (they also have a different belly form for their shell). the right one might be a guy, idk about the left one
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>>4451604
Thats a good method if you like blood
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https://coub.com/view/2sx2p5
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stop giving the hoardfag attention and accept his animals are doomed, he's either being retarded on purpose to rile people or he's genuinely too retarded for basic animal care
either way, ignore him
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>>4451548
To be fair it felt like more of a response to the criticism than anything, but yeah seeing the filename it makes sense.
>>4451555
Still more hinged than you. Get a rattlesnake. Do it. Fulfill your destiny.
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She finally ate. Downgraded from hoppers to fuzzies just in case, but she ate at last.
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>>4451611
>his animals are doomed
to vibrant health because all of their parameters are met. unreal how mad Beyond Women™ get when they see their $25 hides mogged by 50¢ Wal*Mart bowls with a hole cut out
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>>4451172
What the fuck is this tank
Do you think you bought a fuckin rosy boa
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Finally a sunny day, after a couple of weeks of rain and overcast. My new job schedule also allows me too let him get some time in the grass, and amongst the flowers. Hes been so sleepy the last few days, in his playpen out of the elements. Glad I was able to clean out bed too. He loves my GF, looking out for her. The little baby follows her around when shes here

>>4450914
Badass, and they look happy
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>>4451555
>rackfags have normal ass healthy snakes
>normal
>healthy
LOL
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>>4451710
>because all of their parameters are met
You can throw a carpet python in an outdoor shed and all it’s parameters are met. Just because an indestructible species has a good shed doesnt mean it’s not a shit enclosure
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>>4451713
the firewood "stick" is the icing on the cake.
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>>4451703
Ay! See? what I tell you, she'd come out of it eventually.
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>>4451601
1) be around snake. let snake know you dont want to eat it
2) put your hand on snake's stick. let snake know you dont want to eat it.
3) be a stick. let snake sit on person-stick if it wants, if it doesnt want to sit on person-stick, let it go back to regular stick
4) repeat until snake likes to be on person-stick.
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>>4451703
based
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>>4451471
>high quality vids
>good content with actually useful info
>fantastic care
>fucking lace monitors
This guy is at the pinnacle of herp youtube
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>>4451555
>easy to break down and clean
So it’s a matter of laziness then?
>they're just not dogshit, never have been
No they’re dogshit. Minimalistic enclosures aren’t necessarily bad, but yours are
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>>4451555
>gets called out on bad enclosure
>flings shit
Grow a dick and listen to constructive feedback.
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I really shouldn’t buy a shit tempered, face biting, nuclear shitting snake that might reach 20 ft, however...
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>Offer rat to snake
>snake just ignores it.
Nah bro busy exploring my enclosure, no time to eat.
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The Chad Rattlesnakes vs. The Virgin Cobras
>Girth > length
>Tougher Keeled scales > smooth scales
>Rattle > doofy hood
>Larger, triangular heads
>Longer, folding fangs
>Live birth
>Faster strikers
>Heat-sensing pit organ
>Most notable and largest Cobra is not even a real Cobra
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Tried the 'nest raid' enrichment with my boas using 4 xs quail to see how it would go. Results were mixed.
Boa 1: Knocked over the bowl of birds so results are unknown.
Boa 2: Grabbed all of them at once, lost his grip on three, got them all stuck in the water bowl, swam around and did some underwater hunting until he got them all.
Boa 3: Found the nest very fast and was doing things very properly until she ran out of birds and tried to eat the bowl.
Sanzinia: Periscoped over the bowl for about an hour before he decided to eat??
Moose: Got free birds because I had leftovers and no more bowls.

Was pretty fun to watch them, would recommend.
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>>4452771
>Found the nest very fast and was doing things very properly until she ran out of birds and tried to eat the bowl.
fucking kek
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>brian got cancer
Does this mean no more racks?
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>>4453254
Probably 3x the clickbait
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>>4453254
the thumbnail matched my expectations by about 80% genuinely surprised there arent visible tears
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>>4453354
also
>come across pic related looking for the "BRAIN HAS CANCER???? 100% REAL (SERIOUS)" thumbnail
I hate this man so much.
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>>4453356
His views on new vids seem low for the amount of subs he has
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>>4453364
I honestly wouldnt be surprised if he faked a cancer diagnosis for attention. I've personally witnessed less narcissistic people do worse.
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suggest me a small terrestrial lizard that would do well in 60x30 cm enclosure
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>>4453378
mourning/house gecko? lizards need space, that's really tiny for something that wants to move around a lot.
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>>4453385
too tiny eh? I was wondering if I could fill an old aquarium that fits just perfectly in a spot in my room. If it's too small for anything to live decently in it I'll make a plant terrarium
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>>4453387
Get fancy isopods
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My snake figured out the connection of "being back into the enclosure after exploring means the doors will close" so he now tries to always have some noodle part outside to prevent lockdown.
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>>4453424
good idea
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>>4453378
Web footed geckos could do it. 24x12 footprint isn't stupid tiny but most small lizards are arboreal.
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>>4453378
Male Hognose snake should fit in?
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Anyone here farm their own super worms? I hear they don't turn to beetles as long as they're all squirming around together in the same enclosure.
I've got an older beardie who's pretty lazy. She only eats stuff that really catches her eye, but is too lazy to chase after roaches and crickets.
Used to farm medium meal worms but they're too small for her eyesight, maybe?
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>>4453424
>>4453474
Real fucking fancy ones
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>>4453485
>I hear they don't turn to beetles as long as they're all squirming around together in the same enclosure.
Correct. You have to separate them individually to get them to turn to pupa. Once in pupa stage you can put them back in a bin together. I assume it's some survival instinct; if there's movement nearby it's not safe to pupate. I guess. Common technique is to put a fully grown worm in to a plastic film container or something like that. No substrate needed.
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>>4453486
>take holiday to SE Asia
>bring back hundreds of these super expensive isopods you caught for free
>either crash the market for lols or corner the market for moneys
It’s staggering people can get away with selling them for that much
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Zoo-med Nano dome fixture and bulb shorted(?) on me earlier this week. While I was out getting the replacement, I wondered if I can just replace the lamp holder inside the dome and have two lights? Would hate to see a good dome go to waste.
Zoo-med sells a combo version, which is literally just two of these stuck together anyway. One would house the halogen heat (the one I always use) and the other would have the LED, just for extra light.
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>>4453475
the problem is that I can't really turn it into a vertical enclosure since it has weird rounded edges + it would defeat the purpose of fitting in the right spot, at that point I'd get a large enclosure
>>4453482
can't do snakes because I'm afraid of mice so I wouldn't be able to feed him

But thanks for all the ideas, if you guys have more keep them coming.
I was also thinking maybe some amphibians, but that kinda defeats the purpose of not wanting to deal with constant water filters, etc. of an aquarium I imagine
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>>4453904
>can't do snakes because I'm afraid of mice so I wouldn't be able to feed him
Kek relatable I am eternally cucked out of owning a chameleon because I'm scared of crickets.
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>>4448474

I had a Tokay for a number of years and it was reasonably intelligent. He'd come up when it was time for food and if I started messing with his tank he'd just hide in his hide and let me scoop out substrate and clean glass. I never dared to try and handle him though. Not just for fear of getting bit but because it would have just been stressful for him.
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>>4453904
Pygmy chameleons and bumblebee toads are both entirely terrestrial and would do well in that space, but the former are entirely wild caught (in volume of a few dozen coming into the US every few months), the latter seem to have entirely disappeared from the hobby after decades of being like $5/pop. But the latter in particular are small, colorful, active, hearty, and can be kept like 6 to a 12" cube, so if you can find them, they're awesome.
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>>4453904
>I'm afraid of mice so I wouldn't be able to feed him
You dont ahve to bother with living mice you can buy them frozen.
Or just get a egg snake
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>had gargoyle gecko over a month
>he still hides most of the time
should i just start trying to handle him a few minutes a day or something? I'm not exactly expecting him to be active during the day but I would appreciate it if he used the basking spot and would hang out in the open or something.
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>>4454327
That's pretty typical when they're young. As they age they get more lazy about hiding and just hang out wherever in the tank, whether that's hidden or no.
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>>4454283
Aren't the available egg snakes both large and you have to get them as adults unless you have a source of songbird eggs?
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>>4454331
he is youngish but not a total juvie, i would guess he's like 4-5'' snout to vent? you think i should get some crickets or something as a treat? The breeder i bought him from seemed like a powerboomer, never fed him insects and said monitoring humidity was a waste of time, just give it a water bowl and low intensity basking spot and it will be fine.
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>>4454431
A lot of them won't take crickets, they're fine on fruit goop entirely. That's a pretty small one still I'd give him time.
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>>4454431
The low impact method of testing if your gecko will hunt bugs is to put a handful of soldier fly larva in their substrate. These with hatch out to flies periodically over the following month. If they're staying in there in touched it's probably not a good idea to jump to crickets. If he's gobbling them, then yes try crickets.
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>>4454448
>in touched
untouched. The second benefit of the soldier fly method is their breeding temperature. It's unlikely for them to breed when ambient is below 85 so, unless your house is warmer than that infestation is not going to be a problem.
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>>4446069
Is it okay to ask questions regarding my new pet reptiles?
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>>4454653
I'll ask anyway, if its not allowed just let me know.
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Does anybody have tips for taking care of my bearded dragon?

They have been been with me for a few months (about three) now and I'm not 100% sure if they are doing okay.

I feed them every second day one or two worms, is this enough?

I clean the inclusure and refill the water bowl every second day as well.

In the begin I may have started feeding them too much so I slowly decreased the amount to account for how little they ate in the beginning.

They were neglected by the previous owner, so I assumed the eating habits were part of that.

I can send some pics of them later once I have my break at work today.

Please, any advice is appreciated.
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>>4454666
Also, they fit in the palm of my hand now, I haven't measured them exactly but I'd say they are almost ruler length.

I haven't checked if they are male or female yet.

The have shed thier scales twice over the course of three months.
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>>4454666
>>4454667
looks a little skinny, not too bad though. feeding amount seems a little low, though. this here is the best care guide I've come across, I'd recommend reading up and cross-checking with what you're doing.
>reptifiles.com/bearded-dragon-care/
I'd also recommend looking for an exotics vet near you, and bringing your little dude in for a baseline health check. It may be difficult to find someone that does reptiles, but believe me it is well worth it.
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>>4454675
Thank you, I'll up the feed to one worm a day for now jn addition to thier fruit pellets.
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>>4454681
In addition*
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>>4454667
>>4454675
Sorry if this is a silly question but is the tip of thier tail meant to look like this?

I can't tell if they didn't shed properly or if it's normal for the tail to be like that for thier size.

I've never had a bearded dragon before so I'm a little out of my depth.
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>>4454733
No, that's a damaged/dying tail tip. Youre gonna need to see a vet as soon as possible.
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>>4454675
>I'd also recommend looking for an exotics vet near you, and bringing your little dude in for a baseline health check.
please do this. I adopted a beardie from a neglectful owner as well. Brought him to the vet and he had parasites. Luckily the treatment was quick and cheap
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>>4454755
Can it wait until maybe this friday?

>>4454761
Okay, will do.
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BROS? Why does Hognose poop smell so much?
Any other snake you will not smell a thing but with a hognose the entire room smells like wet farts.
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>>4454765
Whenever you can get an appointment in, yes. That's something that CAN eventually kill the beardie but it doesnt look that bad at the moment. It'll likely have to lose that section of tail but they're tough little fuckers, so it wont be that bad. Reptiles are kind of weird in that it takes a long time for them to heal, but they can bounce back from horrendous injuries with little to no ill effects.
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Corn snake

Humidity has been at about 40% for a while I mist and have 2 water dishes in there to increase.
Today I woke up and saw humidity at 31%, noticed water dish was empty on hot side (happens regularly but there isnt sucha drop in humidity) and temperature on hot side was about 33celsius. It was like 28celsius before so out of nowhere it increased like this. Felt the substrate but it didnt feel much hotter though.

So does anyone know if my heat mat is faulty or is it no big deal or whats going on.
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>>4454926
>So does anyone know if my heat mat is faulty or is it no big deal or whats going on.
Do you not have your heat mat tied to a thermostat? Is your enclosure so small that your snake doesn’t have a thermal gradient so he can self regulate?

Fix yourself.
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>>4454944
no there is a hot side and a cool side
i have a thermostat on the hot side and on cool side
thing is it just got a lot hotter out of nowhere on the hot side
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>>4454962
>i have a thermostat on the hot side and on cool side
No, you have a thermometer on the hot side and the cool side.
A thermoSTAT is a programmable limiter that controls the heat by cutting/limiting power once it registers that the programmed temperature is met. You would not have a temperature spike if you had your mat on a thermostat vecause it wouldnt let the mat get hotter than you allow.
Not having a thermostat on your heat mat is not only a health risk to your animal but a potential fire hazard.
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>>4454988
>>4454962
I feel like I shouldnt have to point this out, but this is something you should already know. Unless you have no heat or air conditioning you have a thermostat in your house.
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>>4454988
>>4454991
i am not american¨
we have no ac
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>>4454911
Okay, thank God there's still hope.

I swear, as soon as I get a chance I'll take them to the vet, it's just that my college schedule doesn't allow for jack anymore.

I'll get them there before ghe weekend at least.

Thank you so much for the help, you don't know how much I appreciate it.
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>>4455011
>i am not american¨
>we have no ac
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>>4455011
And no heat?
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Enclosure complete, There's some wet sphagnum under the cork.
I hope to get my blue tounge the week after next. I had to push it back because I needed to buy some more stuff before I got em. I'll add some more decorations later on but I think I wanna see how big it will be in the enclosure first.
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>>4455081
im a rentoid im not allowed to touch that shit
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>>4455100
>Bulb is only getting the brick to 80f FUCK there's $10 wasted.
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>>4455121
Lmao, whut? Are you on shared utilities or something? Why wouldn’t a renter be able to choose how much heating or cooling he is using/paying for?
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>>4455207
Some rentoids get locked out of the thermostat. Like it's remotely controlled
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>>4455207
I lived somewhere that paid for gas but the heat was all controlled by the landlord. Ended up having the heat break on and had to sleep with windows open in new england in the winter, but it was worth it to make the slumlord wannabe pay for gas.

Some landlords are fine but that dude was a shit head whose office manager was actually, unironically retarded and whose "electrician" spoke no English.
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>>4455373
hullo
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>>4455148
this is why places have return policies. exchange that shit for a beefier wattage
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>>4455373
is this a rosy boa? unsure because I can't see enough of the snake
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>>4454803
Hog-keeper here. Mine only eats fish after regurgitating issues with mice. If you have a problem with normal hoggie smell, then try to feed fish for a while. It is nauseating in the enclosure when she poops and the heat warms it up. I love the little cobra though.
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>>4455522
Careful with the fish, over the past 6 months I've been battling what is apparently a pretty nasty infection of Mycobacteroides chelonae with one of my snakes, and the only apparent source of exposure was the tilapia I was offering. Going with just pinkies and chicken heart from here out, which is more nutritious, and they seem to like more anyway.
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>>4455522
>>4455529
Are they that good eaters?
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>>4455816
What a pretty girl.
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>>4455816
kawaii
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>>4455816
Sugoi.
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>>4455486
yup
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>>4454071
Tongue.
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What would be a good bedroom reptile?
Means its enclosure would be in the bedroom and should be on the smaller side and it should be a reptile which does not interrupt my sleep.
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>>4455816
Britney Spears?
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>>4456816
Sand boa
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>>4456816
You should give more specific parameters about how much space you have to put a terrarium down.
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>Traded 60 w for 100 w
>Still only getting 75f
I'm gonna go fucking insane
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>>4457081
How are you measuring temp
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>>4457111
heat gun
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>>4457112
What's the distance from bulb to rock
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>>4457114
Like 14 inches, The bulb is getting like 250 or so but the brick is only 85 right now after like an hour and a half.
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>>4457116
Sounds like it went up 10 degrees in the last hour. What kind of rock is it and how thick?

THIGG rocks can take hours to warm up, especially when it’s not holding residual heat from the day before. Give’r the whole 10 hours before you despair. If you want soaring high temps immediately when the lights turn on, you want a thin piece of dark slate, but they don’t retain heat and help keep the temps stable at night the way a 40 lb lump of granite does.
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>>4457116
Also lightly colored rocks warm up slow, you should use a dark rock or get some tinted concrete sealer and darken up the one you’ve got.
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>>4457144
>lump of granite
That was my nick name in highschool
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I put the rest of the spangnum brick in their and mixed it with the rest of the substrate just because how hard humitidy is to keep up. I've misted like 5x today and it keeps dropping to the mid 30s. When I want it to be at like 45-50. It looks more like an Indonesian enclsoure right now but I think it will figures itself out soon.
>>4457144
>>4457153
It's up to like 93 or so right now so yeah. I guess I just have to let it heat up all night then see tomorrow morning what temp it is. I'll get it into a cycle.
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>>4457294
>I've misted like 5x today and it keeps dropping to the mid 30s
Welcome to my world. willing to bet that's actually high compared to the ambient humidity in the room itself, which if I had to guess was somewhere in the teens.
Would recommend a whole-room evaporative humidifier to jack the room up to a proper 40-60% ambient because otherwise you're going to fucking fight it forever.
>t. am fucking fighting it forever, to the point where I wanted a gargoyle gecko but am settling for a leopard gecko because I can't realistically guarantee the proper environmental parameters for a garg, but can do 30% with a humid hide all day.
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>>4457316
I live in AZ so yeah the humidity is like 10% in my room. I've thought about a room humidifier but I have 1000+ books and don't want those to mold...
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>>4457321
provided the output of the humidifier isnt RIGHT ON the books you should be okay.
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>>4457321
Is that a screen top? Because if so that's the problem. I live in Houston and couldn't keep up with maintaining 70-80% humidity
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I have a exoterra-style tank with a sliding door and a mesh top, but one of the top clips is fucked, and the footprint of 16x12" is apparently hard to find tops for off-the-shelf. I want to put a day gecko (or a few mourning geckos) in there eventually - any tips on how to make it escape proof? I've covered the front vent with mosquito netting, I figured worst case I could use a rubber band on some more of that to add a second layer over the top, but I'm pretty sure that'll cut back the light significantly if it's over the top, and if it's under the netting I suspect I'll find a gecko dried out in the hood.
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>>4457294
Is the roof of your enclosure covered up?
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>>4456920
Guess this information would have been helpful.
About 2,5x1,5 feet and lots of hight would be possible.
Bedroom is not heated at all as I can only sleep well when its cool.
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>>4446506
Based!!!
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>>4457665
>exo-terra.com/en/csdb.php
Contact exoterra customer support and ask them if they can send and/or sell you a replacement top for that model, or if they can advise some other way to do it if you cant.
Be as polite as you can, and I mean like "dealing with a sweet old lady you just met that's really good friends with your grandmother" polite, and if you can do it in a subtle way, mention your concern for the animal's safety if you try and cobble something together yourself.
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>>4457736
It's not exoterra unfortunately, it's an "atasuki" because I couldn't find the footprint I wanted.

I guess my other option is to make brand new Plexiglas screen top with steel rim and all that but I'm not so handy that I'd like to have to do that.
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>>4457747
Ah, "exoterra-syle." I see.
If its just the clip hut you dont want to build a new lid (or something to secure said lid), just skeet some GE silicone1 around the top so it's glued in on the loose end and any larger holes are covered. That should certainly hold enough that a day gecko wouldnt be able to force it open.
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>>4457773
Thanks, didn't even think of just sealing the current lid with silicone, that's almost definitely the easiest choice - it's fully built and planted and has a misting pipe set up, so it's not like I should need to open the top again.

I only have 12" depth or I'd have gotten a bigger tank from a not-chinkshit maker but this was the biggest 12" deep terrarium I could find.
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The snakes that are nicest to people are the meanest to rats
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>>4458383
Knowing olive pythons I believe this
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>>4457724
Probably a green tree python but unsure if they will disturb your sleep
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>>4458569
Yea you know snakes, always squawking and calling out
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>>4458772
Clearly you've never been awoken by your snake taking a massive farting shit at night
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>>4458772
Mine often decides to redecorate the
enclosure at night.
>>4458774
Not sure if I want to look up snake farts
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>>4458853
Treating my snake for a bacterial infection, and part of that includes daily soaks, which she has taken as an opportunity to shit. Nine times out of ten I dont even have to watch her to know when I need to change the bath.
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>>4458774
ball pythons have DEAFENING shits sometimes, it's hilarious. totally undignified, and they tend to S up and writhe around with open mouths. you can't respect them after that. corn snake Chads keep winning
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Good isos for a drier tank? Looking for some affordable bugz
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>>4459062
>gif
I'm not answering your question
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>>4457294
Neat.
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>>4446069
I'm finally getting a large PVC cage for my boa. Can the boa anons with beautiful bioactives post their cages? I want some inspiration and tips! This will be my first time trying to make a proper bioactive.
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blue tounge babies
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>>4459062
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>>4459402
based lizzers
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I see why beardies are so popular now. They're basically little puppers. Even a chill leo or bp will slowly run away but a beardbro just chills with you.
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>>4459446
Mine gets a little angsty sometimes but otherwise they are approachable.

They sit in your hand nicely if you hold them right.
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how hard is it to care for a tortoise ? could i just buy one and throw it in the back yard ?
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>>4459749
Provided you live somewhere with summer weather all year round, are dealing with a species large enough to defend itself from local predators, can properly fortify your yard to prcent burrowing beneath fences and/or just knocking the fucking fence over if you've got a giant, and you've not used insecticides/fertilizers in the area for long enough that youd feel comfortable tearing out a fistfull of grass and eating it yourself, pretty much. Your yard will quickly become a desert wasteland though, and if theyre babies you'll need an indoor turtle table until they grow big enough to let outside.
Oh, and you'll also need children who are also into tortoises to take care of it when you die, and they need to have children who are into tortoises as well to take care of it when THEY die.
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>turned on the camera to look at my gecko and he quacked at me
well fuck you too, man.
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>>4459998
If you're using those blink cameras, the click when you use them.
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Went to the VHS expo the other day. A lot of the usual morph shit was there but there was some cool stuff like some baby Bellatorias and a guy doing a talk with a fucking Oenpelli python. They’ve gotta be by far the best large python you can keep but of course they’ve gotta be impossible to get
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>>4460029
its a kasa, it only makes a sound when i move it, it does have two red lights that go on in night mode though.
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>>4460081
>Oenpelli python
>by far the best large python you can keep
QRD??
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>>4459623
mine is very cage defensive but runs down to the end of the enclosure once a day and glass surfs. she does this about an hour after the lights go on. at this time you can pick her up and plop her on your shoulder and go about your business. at any other time she will run away or even puff up and hiss
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>freedom breeder founder talking about starting his rackfaggot business
>of course it's a fucking biker-larping hick boomer
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>>4460418
>POV you are a dandelion
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>>4460498
You anti-rackers can cope all you want but racks are here to stay.
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>>4460509
Imagine not having a bedroom rack for purely pet purposes
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>>4460418
Lol, what a silly tortie. Tortie-tude is a thing. I know mines likes to hiss at my GF and Grandparents, when they're trying to be nice to him
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>>4460446
They literally never bite, very discerning of food vs hands, have basically the same care as a super sized Darwin carpet python, lighter bodied so easier to manage than other similar sized snakes, big but not so big you need a spare room for one, very active, entirely unique, highly intelligent, etc. Basically everything you’d want from a big snake. They’re just incredibly rare and only entered captivity in 2015
>Anacondas are aquatic and too heavy to move easily
>burms are similar in terms of being heavy, also food response
>rock pythons are like burms with shit attitudes
>retics are the most likely to try eat you
>scrub pythons are evil incarnate face biters
>olives have ridiculous food responses
>Apodora are like stronger olives but less crazy on the food
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>big, docile, blue-eyed, colour changing snake
Give it to me right fucking now
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>>4446583
A shit ton of live plants help hold humidity.
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>>4460509
>racks are here to stay
Of course they are, but that’s still a bad thing
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>>4460498
What I find wild about the rackfag debates is it’s always about ball pythons and how they live in termite mounds or whatever, but then those same people also generally have some carpet pythons or retics on the side that they also keep in the exact same rack systems
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>>4460708
That sounds dope. I'll think about it down the road. Feeling very smallpilled lately, looking and geckos, skinks, hognoses, etc. But maybe.
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>>4460842
>I'll think about it down the road
You’ll have plenty of time to think about since they’re not available outside australia, and even then are only available in certain states and are extremely hard to come by. They’re probably one of if not the rarest snake in the world so it’s not surprising
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Me, contemplating my life as an Oenpelli python keeper
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>>4460861
>australia
at some point SOMEONE is going to have to figure out that exporting animals into the pet trade will help bolster their populations and invigorate genetic stock.
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>>4460878
AND it’d stop the illegal smuggling of reptiles who’s overseas prices have been overinflated by their rarity due to the restrictions. Same goes for the geckos in NZ. Don’t want smugglers? Let people overseas breed them in captivity you retards
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>>4460878
>you got a license for those geckos, son?
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>>4460878
That’s literally the entire reason they collected the first Oenpellis from the wild too, but for some fucking reason they weren’t made legal in every state. I fucking hate legal red tape
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>>4460418
KEK
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>>4460878
>the country with the highest number of reptile species doesn’t allow captive bred exports
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>>4460878
Nope, just outlaw collection and allow habitat destruction to take its course.

Fucking hate glowys and their insistence on allowing wild species to go extinct.
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If I'm planning on making a clay background for a 4x2 how much do I need to buy?

Also trying to decide between making a kaolin/bentoite/soil miixture OR just mixing fluval stratum (clay based aqua soil) and soil. I'm having trouble finding bulk purchasing options for kaolin online, I just keep getting little jar for beauty masks.

Also hoping someone could give the breakdown on clay/soil ratios. I've heard 75-25 is a good one, but why?

Another question: Where do I get nice, largeish, smooth branches for a small boa to use? I'm really not a fan of manzanita. How do I adhere them in place so they'll support the weight? Hoping to avoid screws to keep the enclosure undamaged but if necessary I'll suck it up. Anyway to build a stable ledge into a clay background using wood/rock/etc?
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Would a Leopard Gecko use a shelf inside his enclosure? Obviously I would give him some sort of ramp so he can walk up.
This way I could use the cool hide, water and food dish down on the floor and have now lots of extra space up on the basking shelf.
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>>4461085
sure
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>>4461091
Looks remarkably like the reptile equivalent of a mid-century modern house in southern california. I half expect there to be a couch pit and egg chairs in the inside.
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>>4461091
beautiful
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>>4461091
Super cute, how did you build the stairs and where did you get the tiny fake air plants?
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>>4460708
What about boas? What's you opinion on them?
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>>4461011
Because retarded politicians are acting on outdated ideas that nature should take its course. Meanwhile, said nature around the animals is being turned into condominium complexes by overzealous land developers, and these dumb boomers in charge can't fathom why these animals continue to become endangered.
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>>4461211
Boas r cool
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>>4461213
Oh, and I forgot you have extinction cults like PETA who make the situation even worse.
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>>4461215
They are but I'm kinda afraid that when I buy one it'll grow to be larger than 10 feet.
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>>4461331
Hog island localities dont go much farther than half that.
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>>4461091
very based enclosure
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>>4461331
there was a guy in my city selling an 8' female BEEFER and it made me realize what a fucking ordeal a boa is

very very few of us need to go bigger (Burm, retic, etc.)
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>>4461340
No but see, I want something in that 6-9 feet range. I don't want a mini boa either.

>>4461372
Yeah, I love how Burms look but I don't think I'd be able to manage a snake that big solo. I hope that moose anon won't find himself in over his head with his male anaconda.
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>>4460529
whats up with that blue tape on his back?
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>>4461384
>Yeah, I love how Burms look but I don't think I'd be able to manage a snake that big solo
Get a dwarf burm
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>>4461384
>but see, I want something in that 6-9 feet range.
Theres some like that. May be kinda hard to find, but they're around
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>>4461331
Get a male from smallish parents, plenty of boas never hit 7 ft
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Hey /herp/, I have a concern regarding my skink. He's a fine fella who's 10 months old and healthy, but today I noticed that he has a red spot (on the left of the photo where the tip of his mouth is) after he shed. is it a bite? Mouth rot? Will I need a vet for this?
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>>4461511
looks like just a minor wound, could have just banged his face a bit on something. Check for anything particularly abrasive he might rubbing against, monitor it, and take to the vet if it gets worse, but I would expect it to be gone by his next shed.
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>>4461541
Thanks! I'll keep it in mind.
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>>4460861
>they’re not available outside australia, and even then are only available in certain states and are extremely hard to come by.
to be desu, this can be overcome. Just need a dedicated herp autist in the range of the python to go find some in the wild or get a pair of the few captives. Getting a hold of a breeding pair is going to be the hardest part to make this species more available. Get on it, ausanons.
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I think people get too worried about their animals being sick or hurt, Think about how often you get an upset stomach from whatever you ate the day before and have a little dirrea to shit it out and then you're fine. Or if you cut yourself bumping into a bush outside. Reptiles are tough little fuckers they should be fine. Not everything is a life threating injury or disease.
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>>4461699
Thats better than the alternative of being oblivious. Like that skinny Leo that snake discovery rehabbed recently, how the fuck did the owners let it get to that point?
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>>4461708
Literally months of neglect.
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>>4461040
Clay for a 4x2 is a lot. The weight, not to mention the amount of humidity required to stop it from drying and cracking. You'd need a sealed paludarium at least, IMO. If you want to go through with it I guess you could construct a support structure out of eggcrate, pvc, and chicken wire to cake the clay onto. That would also allow you to anchor wood into it with zip ties or something. I'd double layer the wire to stop the snake from getting in there and offer a better surface for adhesion.
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>>4461112
unironically great architecture
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>>4460887
From everything I've seen the Australian government exists purely to make their citizens lives miserable. I'm not saying American politicians are good but they seemed more focused on political battles and making themselves richer. Aussie politicians have pure disdain for their people. No guns, no video games, no cool pets, no "dangerous" car commercials, then there was the tyrannical behavior during the big cough.
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Anyone seen fire salamanders in the US? I'm from Europe and I miss my lil guys.
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>>4461718
I am honestly just trying to avoid using great stuff. What if I siliconed cococoir matting to the back and textured it using clay? Or alternatively, used the cracked-corkbark to cover at least half the total background, using clay only to fill the gaps?
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>>4461741
I think it'd feel awkward and uncomfortable to be resting surrounded by open space and significantly below everything else - that's an insecure position. An alcove would be better
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>>4461824
Get a marbled or spotted or one of the other easy to acquire ones from North America? They're all pretty easy to keep and similar behavior.
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>>4461818
Australians hate nothing more than Australian politicians
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Unneeded because my enclosure has removable perches but:
Do you think a Green Tree Python can be trained to follow target and shift perches like you can do with other snakes?
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>>4461708
That was a poor soul, glad they managed to help him.
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>>4461974
Yes.
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>>4461388
So my family and i can see him when he rummages/naps in the dry leaves piles around the yard, or walking around the shaded or muddy areas around the yard. He loves to go hide and nap in places that his she'll blends into. He doesnt seem to mind a piece of painters tape
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>>4461842
One could easily fall in, spilling food and drink everywhere
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>>4461842
What are you, a cat?
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>>4462296
I think most living creatures feel this way, even an elephant would recognize it is more vulnerable in a shallow pit than outside of one.
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So many snakes to get. So little time, space and money
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>>4462500
Have you considered becoming rich?
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>>4462514
based
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>>4462514
Am rich, kids and wife keep spending my time, space, and money.
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>>4462600
Not rich enough if you can't pay them to fuck off and have time and money for yourself.
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So the cinder block cap is taking 12 fucking hours to get to 100 degrees with my 100 watt bulb.
I wonder if the brick is just too big and isnt absorbing the heat? Is it the material?
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>>4462500
Snek.
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>>4462603
What do I look like Bezos to you?
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>>4462744
Heat transfer is complicated. Its all the factors. Stain it a dark color if you want it to heat faster
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>>4462744
>>4463024
A dark iron oxide concrete stain will do wonders.
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>>4462874
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>>4450278
would be my line for when I take emily from that fat fuck.



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