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Discus anything aquarium related here, including inhabitants, decor, and issues. Before asking questions in this thread, make sure you give us at least some details when asking a question, such as:

>Tank size (include dimensions, not just volume)
>Parameters (ammonia, nitrite, pH, GH, KH)
>Any inhabitants + how long you've had them
>Pictures are always helpful

Tank Cycling:
>www.modestfish.com/how-to-cycle-your-aquarium/

Stocking and Water Change Calculator:
>www.aqadvisor.com/AqAdvisor.php
>www.hamzasreef.com/Contents/Calculators/EffectiveWaterChange.php

Articles and Care Guides:
>www.seriouslyfish.com/knowledge-base/
>www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/
>www.theaquariumwiki.com/wiki/

Aquatic Plant Database:
>www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forumapc/plantfinder/all.php
>www.flowgrow.de/db/aquaticplants

Saltwater shit:
>brs 5 minute guides
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlUv9SRB_g8 [
>https://reefbuilders.com/reef-tank-setup/
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What are some good predator salt water fish for a 200 gallon tank? I’m wanting a centerpiece fish
So far my ideas are
>red emperor snapper
>sohal tang (not a predator I know)
>bumblebee grouper (gets waay too big)
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>stop using ozone generator in basement for fish and shrimp sake
>starting to smell a little fish store-esque
>turns out some people pay hundreds for aquarium ozone injection
Huh. Probably like audiophiles with elephant dick cables, but good to know.

>>4303413
He's slipping.
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>>4303489
I'd argue that there is a difference between smelling and not smelling a fish tank, versus stupid fuckwad limpdicks buying dumbass cables like these. Don't even get me goddamn started. Spend $20k on snake oil bullshit but listen to their music in an echo chamber because they have put 0 effort or money into treating their room acoustically.
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It's happening, boys! This is definitely lighter than yesterday. Maybe soon I can add something to eat some of this algae and do a water change without being afraid of ruining the cycle which I feel like might also help with the hair menace.
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>>4303515
Continue to pursue that which you have been following so very well - patience.
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>>4303517
For sure, I'm just watching my plants losing the battle against the algae slowly and hoping to be able to do something more like give some amanos a feast soon.

I wont rush it, but the algae fight is so annoying. Looking over and seeing these bold ass hairs streaming into my focal points.

I did trim and replant some stuff that was getting rather long to try to give more oomph for the battle.
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>>4303513
To the credit of that image, there does appear to be a baffling panel on the wall and a bass trap in the corner. Probably because they chose hardwood flooring.
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>>4303521
Fair enough, nutrient export is wise with algae going uncontested.
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Help me.
I made a mistake, I saw a waterbox 180.5 pro on the local rag and I can almost buy it outright. Comes with tank, stand and original sump/plumbing but no accessories at all. Stahp.
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>>4303513
I meant insofar as the people that inject ozone into the aquarium for fish health or whatever. There might be proof it works, though. Idk. General consensus on ozone in humans seems to be "we don't know, don't huff it or hide in a bunker. Maybe a little is good."
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>>4303531
Oh right right, gotcha.
Personally, I'd avoid it just over the fact that it is a rather powerful oxidizer.
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>three wired probes read higher than heater by 3 degrees F
>one fork thermometer and mercury thermometer are within an acceptable .5 degrees F

Spooky. The one probe was working fine before. I figured it got crimped by the heavy lid. Maybe I should get retested for radon.
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>>4303562
>Get REtested for Radon
Is that a normal thing?
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>>4303563
Idk, I guess I'm talking out of my ass. I'm on huge shale deposit hills so I'm sure it shifts, which could expose new uranium or whatever.
S'all good tho. It was my sound system, pretty sure. Heater is horizontal at bottom so it dits .5-1F cooler than most of the tank, so pic is fine. It was reading 82F before.

Amateurtip: play music at a whisper and slowly increas to loud over a few days with new fish and they don't give a fuck about loud music, even when sleeping.
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>>4303529
Hahaha.

Then what?

Thats gonna be a shit ton of rock, sand, Lighting. Do it bro. I've spent 1.5k in coral alone filling up my shitty beginner Fluval 13.5.

DO IT.
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>>4303573
Don't do it, man, it's not wo- RUIN YOUR FUCKING LIFE SO I CAN OWN YOUR TANK VICARIOUSLY I WANT TO DO IT SO BAD!!!
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>>4303572
I've found the same, though I must be getting old because I might crank it up to 1/2 once in a blue moon.
Haven't noticed any change in behavior between my quiet and my loud, so I hope they don't mind it lol. Never turned on my sub, though, I'd feel guilty.
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>>4303575
Can't send video. Too big. it's not even full of coral yet. 3 months in so far. So much money, worth every penny.
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>>4303576
Sorry, guess I took this picture in the middle of summer or something. Southern hemisphere ftw!
Do people still use ftw?
>>4303573
I ASKED MY MUM FOR MONEY BUT SHE SAID NO.
I'll scrape together what I can, shitball the owner and see if it sticks. Then I can wait a year before I have all the equipment to run it.
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>>4303577
>3 months
Damn nigga how loaded are you?
https://easternmarineaquariums.co.nz/collections/coral
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>>4303578
I mean. Waterbox Aquariums are very nice. I got a 15 Peninsula. Corals are closed for the night right now. Still dealing with the ugle phase on this bitch.
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>>4303581
I mean. Enough to buy this shit. That Torch in the middle I just picked up at Reef a Polooza was $250.
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>>4303583
There are a few listings for dismantled Aqua one 400 S2's (Brand new is almost 3k), Neptune 600 but comes with fish and no corals etc.
I'd rather build from the ground up and have been watching too much BRStv where they mention upgrade factor one billion times so I just want to go poor once with one tank and nip it in the bud.
>Reefapalooza
Goddamn Americans getting huge coral meets.
It's very pretty, anon.
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Correct son. Don't make the same mistakes everyone like myself has made and bought new. Someone somewhere is always upgrading. I started with the Fluval and later the Waterbox new and I regret it. Should've just got a nice second hand tank like the Waterbox 64 I saw the other day for $600USD with two AI Primes. Fuck me anon.
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>>4303489
What temp is better for cherries? ~68-73 without heater, or ~72-78 with?
Can't adjust it unfortunately. 50w preset to "78" actually just applies a certain amount of power in intervals that raises temp about 4.5 degrees (raises less the lower the temp, obv). Not complaining for $7.
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>>4303577
Am I tripping or is that a massive overhang?
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>>4303599
I think I'm gonna go for the heater. Seems slightly more stable and faster breeding should offset the larger ratio of males born and hopefully doesn't increase disease.
I'd consider 73.5 ideal.
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>>4303600
Just a Aquafarm G5 95w LED. Still slowing ramping up power. Doesn't POP the corals colors like I want though.
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>>4303594
Sellers bottom dollar is 2.7, bank of mum can lend out 1.2 @ 0% interest. Delicious tendies.
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>>4303601
Trial and error, anon. Heck, why not both eh EH EH?
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>>4303610
No, spoonfeed me anon.

Definitely gonna use the heater, though I'm think lower might be better for shrimp. Didn't think about the plants, which will probably get bitchy under 72.
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>>4303615
I would be able to help, if our country didn't have a ban on importing freshwater shrimp.
I've usually seen most people fretting around the 68-72 range, but no idea how many different types vary on that figure.
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apparently they just made glo cories
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Can I get a moon/10 rating.
Over 9000 hours in scrap resin.
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Fix yer fucking leaves or lose em, lotus.

Is there any issue with plugging a 50w preset heater into a timer? Considering just running it at night. Between lamp during the day and heat off/down at night that should make things as stable as I'll get em for now.

>>4303617
That sucks. Where you at?
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>>4303647
I thought these guys were just a really cool color form, the ones that were kinda fluorescent or seemed to "glow" even under the regular light.
Now I'm pretty sure they're guys that skipped a molt or got a super thick exoskeleton from too much calcium to metabolism (food/temp). This is the last one left of the 4 like that, including filter fucked tard boy.
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My brine shrimp hatchery fucking broke and leaked half of its contents on the floor. Should I take the aquarium coop pill and buy their ready made hatchery?
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>>4303647
New Zealand.
>Coral banded shrimp in NZ - $140-180
>In the US - as low as $20
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>>4303413
There was no thread title and I'm out in the boonies without cell service for a wedding.

Still, people need to know. See attached

>>4303521
Heavy algae growth (usually diatoms but idk if they're actually different) early is a bit of a "phase" of a new aquariums. Something about using up all the available nutrients from the substrate and anything else added in at the start, that doesn't get meaningfully replenished with your water changes. A month or so after the cycle, most of it will disappear almost overnight, in my experience.
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>>4303599
Cherries really don't care, just don't let the temp shift too fast. And by they don't care, I mean 65-85 should show no difference in health, just slower growth and reproduction (and longer lives as a result) at the low end.

Plants really depend on the plant, some thrive in the high 60s and some need 75+ to show much growth. Any of the "easy" plants that get recommended all the time will survive and grow anywhere in that range, just faster at the high end - you may be seeing a pattern here.
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>>4303660
im a noob but hardcore at heart and they seem like they think through their products.

you probably wont be disappointed
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>>4303703
>a month or so after the cycle, most of it will disappear almost overnight, in my experience.

Man, I fucking wish. I might have to break down and get a powerful ass light setup for my old 55 display even though I want to get breeding tanks and stock so bad.
The secret to success for me seems to be hit the tank with a blinding amount of light, and reduce the time if that doesn't work.
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>>4303704
Yeah, I'm overthinking it. From what I've read, it sounds like a hotter (pre)colony is faster and a (cooler (pre)colony is more stable, for a multitude of reasons.
I'm gonna put the heater in because what's worked in the 40 is let the plants do "water changes" for me most of the time.
Although, is there any reason I can't plug a 50w preset heater into a timer? I feel like it'd be unsafe with a larger, less "dumb" heater, but idk.
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didn't clean my substrate super thoroughly. 5 washes instead of 8-10, not that it suggested it but i feel like that would be the sweet spot

the water isn't clear but it's not murky. it's cloudy, will it subside or get filtered?

or am i going to have to clean the substrate from the tank, because that's going to be a terrifying bitch
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>>4303760
Just roll with it, I'd say. You washed better than I do, and I use blasting slag.
I'd say that caused my diatoms, but it's more likely my well water.
I was actually going to bitch about people destroying all the huge silicate quartz boulders around here. Then I thought about a 125 gallon tank with hard scape made entirely of perfect white quartz. Most big pieces have imperfections, but if you cracked that boulder right you could get like 9...
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>>4303746
It it doesn't disappear, then it's time to use it as food. Flag fish, SAEs, platys, shrimp, snails, you got a lot of options. Hell, you can even get a Chinese Algae Eater and turn your tank into a bloodbath.
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One of my angels got cucked pretty bad this week. Him and the biggest angel that I thought was a male were looking like they were about to pair at the start of the week, then my smaller male beat him up and paired off with her.

Poor dude got his mouth hurt and has been having trouble eating for the past couple days. I've had to sneak him some bloodworms since he can't chew the pellets well.
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How finnicky are tetras? Can I do fish in cycles?
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>>4303893
depends on the tetra
yes but it's still generally wiser not to unless you have to.
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>>4303760
If you have mechanical filtration, it should have 90% of it picked out over the next 2 water changes and a filter clean if not all.
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>Sleeby pills ran out on Friday
>Painkillers and antidepressants ran out last night, fell asleep around 5am and it's 8.30am now

If nobody else snags that Waterbox 180.5 by Monday evening, it's fucking mine, boiz, before I get re-medicated and back out.
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>>4303893
Are you competent enough in doing such a thing that you can avoid permanent gill damage with a fish-in cycle?
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My sparkling gouramis have acquired a taste only for white worms, it seems. Frozen bloodworms, artemia and copepods seem to be left for later but ultimately ignored until I next feed them worms.
I feed the culture with oats, wholegrain bread ends, greek yoghurt, yeast and the remnants of any cereal. They're a bit high in protein but other than that I don't think there would be much of a problem only feeding them white worms, would there?
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Fuck, that was way too much new life pellet. I ain't vacuuming today so guess its time for the hold outs to get used to it.
The fish that do eat it heal faster and have better temperment anyway.
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>>4303860
What's got a low bioload that won't compete heavily with my loaches? Though maybe a little healthy food competition would do them good...

Just realize latest bump in excel might have been too much, looks like I burnt crinum. Never getting these fuckin things again. Expensive, don't propagate, and die back if you look at them funny. The shipping alone is enough to make it look like you bought something worth 50¢ instead of $15.
Biggest one that was well established and kicking ass dying because loaches jiggled roots a little loose getting food. Same thing happened to the smaller one a couple weeks ago. They root with the strength of a premmy on ketamine.
I did get a little one inch baby hitchhiker that's invincible. I wonder why they don't just sell a ziplock full of those for $15. Same reason the cure for herpes will stay behind locked doors I guess.
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>>4303983
I was thinking otos, but then again, I didn't even know anything else ate glass diatoms.
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Show off. You better treat my girls good and give me fry, because I'm not buying any GBRs on purpose.

>>4304005
Needs a red kerchief.
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>>4304016
What about buying them accidentally?
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i've straight up bought too many ornaments

tiny ass 30 gallon
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>>4303983
Amano are as low bioload as you can get - shrimp are essentially zero. Get 5 or 10 of them and see if that fixes it.
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how high is all your substrate?

2''? 3'"?
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>>4304019
That's why I have them. Pretty inexperienced and they were sold as Bolivian rams.
It probably won't happen again, but I'm not the most perceptive man, either.
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>>4304071
I have one (bought over an inch long) but I don't think they'll come out even in numbers. I saw him for 30 seconds when he was added until my gourmi tried to eat him. My dwarf gourm still spends time looking for him daily. I only know he's alive from molts.
I hope I'm wrong, because once I have enough neo culls I'm gonna sneak em into the plants at night and hope for the best. Too bad he's the lightest sleeping fish I've ever seen.
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hows this look so far for a 75 gallon I inherited? planning on setting it up in my back room and already found some neat driftwood online.built a light rack above it so it gets ~4-6 watts per gallon, plus c02 injection. idea is to plant it real heavy. Honey Gourami seem to be the only "flat" fish that are peaceful enough to school and still be colorful. now I just need mid-level swimmers. I know aqadvisior is pretty conservative with the stocking calc, but im not sure how conservative.
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>>4304085
I'm probably the last guy you should ask, but I'd guess you could double that and get away with the standard 25% a week in 75g. Maybe up to 33%.
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I have access to (legal?) vast volumes of ironsand (chiefly titanomagnetite), and would like to know if anyone has heard anywhere about using it in a saltwater setup. I just really like the contrast it provides. Like a barebottom, but also functional. I asked a local reef store if they've ever heard of using it and said there had been discussions over it but apparently that started and ended with silica content.
2 anecdotal stories about random coral deaths and not having that issue again after removing it, but I feel that could have been coincidental with any number of things.

Go to a reef forum and ask about it? Been using it in 3 freshwater tanks for a combined 4 years and nothing out of the ordinary, my tanks don;t even know what diatoms are.
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>>4304123
Well, practically any sand has a lot of silicates. Not sure if titanomagnetite would have more but I kind of doubt that would be something you couldn't work around (dose shit tons of copepods early on, for instance). I would have some concern about the actual iron (and to a lesser extent Ti). There are lots of anecdotal accounts of people having issues with a reef tank then finding a screw fell in the tank and rusted over, causing Fe to spike to actual readable levels. However that too may be coincidental.

https://reefs.com/magazine/chemistry-and-the-aquarium-iron-in-a-reef-tank/
Article by Randy Holmes-Farley. For those unfamiliar, he is a reefing god. Much of what we know today that is not broscience is due to him. In this article, he goes into dosing Fe and actually does a super dose to see if will negatively affect the tank; it didn't. But he admits he doesn't keep everything so he can't account for everything.
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>>4304129
Cheers for the link.
Mandarin dragonets are to blame for my desire to run a saltwater tank, so a copepod population demolishing diatoms would be an ideal, intentional and best-case scenario, even if silicates are to blame for a breakout of photosynthetic organisms. From what I understand, that particular assay of ironsand shouldn't be an issue on account of it being blown out of a volcano and gradually worn down to tiny sand particles after traveling 400-500km up the west coast.

I'll give
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>>4304166
I'll just give, apparently.
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>>4303599
the former. most (neo)caridina species except sulawesi do better with cooler temperatures. they can survive temps in the high 70s but they probably won't live as long and will also be more susceptible to various environmental stressors.
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>>4303513
All that when they could just use some fuckin' rocks to adjust the frequencies or whatever the hell these were supposed to do...
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Been a few years, finally setting up a betta tank again.
What do you feed your bettas?
I've always given mine sinking pellets like this
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Is there anything better I could be using?
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I hope that plastic has been run through a deprofabulator and left out to rest for a minimum of 40 hours in the waxing moonlight before applying them to the interconnects like that.

>Tfw treating the acoustics of a whole room with Mikro pooblz®©
Amazing, who even bother buying high end gear when I can just throw these on on my mobile phone and fill the room with the fidelity and clarity my ears deserve?
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>>4304231
Is there anything wrong with my dwarf gourami swimming at night?
It's an even more leisurely pace of his usual stroll across the top to the right, down the spray bar flow, weave through the plants back to the top left, paddle around a bit, repeat.
Sometimes he's oblivious while doing it, like he's sleep swimming.
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>>4304231
>>4304248
Oops, here's another (you) on me. Keep the change, ya filthy animal.
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>>4304217
Floating worms

I have a betta in a 3 gallon alone
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>>4304085
It's incredibly conservative. See pic attached, doesn't even include the tons of snails or the stiphodon gobies. I do a 40% pwc every week or two and with the latest plants that isn't even to control nitrates, just for EI dosing ferts and adding new minerals.
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Lowest dwelling micro rasbora?
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>>4304301
Least (aka exclamation point) Rasbora - Boraras urophthalmoides. They hang out mostly in the lower middle or right above the substrate.
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Guy trying to catch crayfish in Japan from the other thread. Just put my trap in the water today. Forgot to take a photo before doing that. I went out with friends and had little time before it got dark. Also the spot I planned to put my trap was drained and became too shallow to put it. I scoured the area and found a place deep enough for it where the tiny stream meets a small river. Hopefully there are lots of crayfish on the river who will get in the trap and there aren’t any other animal that will fuck up the trap. The main bait was left over chicken bones and a chicken wing I rubbed chilli powder. The secondary bait to season it was a mix of onion, garlic, an old tomato that was in the fridge and agar to make it into a block. The bumpy ride to the location broke down the agar block and it just fell out of the traps. I will put it on paper bags next time and let the crayfish use their claws to tear the bags and reach the bait. I really hope that The weather forecast is correct and we won’t have any heavy rain because this could means turn the slow current into a strong one breaking the line and taking my trap down the river.
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>>4303386
DIY Overflow box/sump question:

Does glass thickness matter for the overflow box and sump dividing walls? Until an overflow box starts overflowing, it's basically like the front of an aquarium, subject to the same forces as the tank. There's tons written about how to select your glass thickness when it comes to building an actual tank, but for dividing walls/overflows it's never mentioned. Having an overflow dividing wall fail seems like a spectacularly bad event.
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>>4304447
This would only matter if it were a full height, weir-type, i.e. something that goes all the way down. See pic. The typical overflow that is only around 6" high is going to be subjected only to water pressure of a depth of 6". Full height weirs are not as popular as overflow boxes as they do take up display space and have some maintenance concerns but I like them. They completely destroy any overflow box on flow.

But yeah, it's probably a topic that doesn't get enough thought. The saving grace is that the weirs are generally made of polycarbonate and are generally shaped a cylindrical arch, meaning they're pretty strong and able to flex more than glass without risking structural integrity. I DIY a lot of this stuff and I tend to go thicker as well.
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>>4304371
Are there crayfish that actually have that coloration in your area? Because that would be awesome.
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>>4304460
No, the one in the photo is this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherax_pulcher

I would love to have those in an aquarium but still doesn't know where to find them for sale.

The ones I saw where the American crayfish, an invasive species.
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I just spent the last hour picking out every last duckweed from my very inconveniently designed tank

Fucker who sold me the Java moss knew i was a noob and didn’t quarantine for this shit

Better to learn this way than with the life of a fish i guess
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>>4304457
>some maintenance concerns

What are those concerns? I was indeed looking to make a weir-type overflow, that goes all the way down.

Specifically (if anyone cares), I want to DIY a corner aquarium with an offset front window, and put a weir overflow with a durston drain in the back corner, mostly obscured by an artificial background. It's a way to smooth out the sharp corner (but indeed, it will take up some space inside).

You gave me an idea to maybe just put an overflow box at the top, and obscure it behind an overhanging fake background... which would create some nice caves/hideouts for animals.
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>>4304457
>>4304617
And thanks for the explanation by the way! It cleared it up for me, and like I said, gave me a new idea.
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>>4304483
>free duckweed
Did you message the seller and thank him him for the freebie?
I myself have only two kinds of duckweed, which I believe to be lemna minor and lemna valdiviana, but I'm hoping one day to expand my collection to include some of the more exotic species like lemna triscula.
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Everyone is fucking happy, parameters are stables, tank remains clean, there is no aggression whatsoever.

Shit looks empty, should I add anything else or I would ruin the balance?
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>>4304617
>>4304622
Mostly just that in any kind of overflow, stuff going to where it shouldn't is something that will always happen. In an overflow box like pic related, it's super easy to clean out really well because you can reach every crevice. In a full weir, it's a pain in the ass to clear up anything down there. I've found this mostly concerns saltwater though. For instance I've had some rather expensive and delicate sea lettuce slugs who can squeeze into the smallest spaces get stuck at the bottom and didn't seem to want to get sucked all the way to the filter sock for me to pick out. Leaving them there is certain death as they would have no food and not nearly enough light for photosynthesis. I've also seen some horror shows of aiptasia growing in there since they can seemingly grow anywhere with even a tiny amount of light. Imagine you have a standard 4' x 2' x 2' ~120G tank, that's some long ass tongs to try to reach the bottom. I remember I accidentally dropped a kind of spacer ring for some other equipment down there, and it was just too much a pain in the ass and I ended up leaving it for like two years lol (it was silicone so I was unconcerned). It somehow did not want to get washed out (I'm guessing since at the time both the ring and the weir were new and shiny, the surfaces were so unblemished they created a cold seal strong enough to stick just a little bit).

Your plan though looks quite good though, so I personally wouldn't shy away from a full height weir.
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>Alien betta’s tail still looks a little rough despite weeks of treatment and water changes
>Every other fin completely healed
I hate chronic fin rot so fucking much
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>>4304371
>>4304471
Just checked the trap and it was a failure. Still don’t know if the trap works or not, the spot I hastily put my trap didn’t seem to have a strong current but debris accumulated on it and dragged it until it was half out of water and with the bait out of water no crayfish got inside. At least no fox/tanuki didn’t destroy the trap to get the bait. Now with daylight I could find a better spot (I think) so I put the trap with the now soggy bait and I hope I can get something out of it later. On the bright side I found some tiny crabs living here. We are too far away from the ocean so it probably reproduces entirely on fresh water. This means that I might be able to breed them in an aquarium. There was also some small colorful fish. With it and it seemed like a peaceful species.
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>>4304698
Btw this was 1 meter away from the street.
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>>4304099
>>4304292
Dope. Was thinking what I had seemed a bit sparse for pic related. Bought some big bits of wood from Houston Manzanita. Hopefully it's a bit better about describing shit that eBay driftwood. Now I just need to find an auto on/off for the lights that actually DIMS them off instead of just instant-cutting the power. Closest I've found is pic related but fuck paying ~70$ for what is essentially a timed dimmer switch.
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>>4304700
Fuck, forgot link

https://www.dimmersystem.com/en/p/automatic-dimmer-time-switch-timer

Would need two, one for "sunrise/sunset" and one for a moonlight
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>>4304679
First of all, don't add shrimp or snails (except rabbit snails, maybe) to your Aqadvisor, they're hilariously over weighted by the Calc.

Secondly, get like 6-10 more of those corys asap. You'll enjoy them more and they'll be much happier and more active and confident.

Lastly, after that you probably still have space to double the tetras or add as many as a dozen similar sized fish - zebra danios or white clouds are always fun.
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4 shubunkins in a 20 long, how long will that last them? biggest one is like 5'' with tail. Considering bringing them inside, they have a 100gal tub that ends up being an algae factory where i never see them because i cant control the sunlight on it. Kinda want to switch that tub over to medaka or something next summer.

Eventually I'll have a 55 or something downstairs but i need a bunch of money first. Might take a couple of years. If I let them winter outside this year it should keep their growth down I think. One day in the far distant future I kind of want to build a pond out there but that's a lot more money. They all increased at least 20% in size over the summer despite me forgetting about them for months at a time.
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>>4304679
dude that's way understocked, aqadvisor is extremely conservative, which I respect in some senses but it leads to retards who dont understand that touting these numbers for a tool designed for novices as religion.

I find 150% on aqadvisor to be the magic number in a well planted tank where the nitrates from stock start to balance out. I shoot for stocking levels where I consistently have 20-50ish ppm nitrate which ensures the plants dont need me to baby them with fertilizer, while i also never have to water change only top off. Fish poopoo and peepee are free. Neons should kind of be on the lower end of that though.
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I think it's finally time, boys. I am going to grab some shrimp tomorrow by happen stance, so it's time for a water change and then retesting to be sure.
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>>4304773
Nice, keep us updated.
What shrimp are you getting?
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>>4304697
Got any pictures?
If it doesn't heal it's probably either caused by the water quality/parameters or stress.

I had problems with pH fluctuations and it gave my fish small holes in the fins, it cleared up once I got the pH under control.
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>>4304969
Will do, I haven’t decided entirely. Will kind of depend on what they have, but since I want them to eat my hair algae amano might be the ideal. Blue dreams are so pretty, though.
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Welp, I'm an idiot.
I bought the tank and will uplift it when I make some friends who can assist with the relocation.
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>>4304996
How slow do you need to be devoured by a regular snail.
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>>4304675
>lemna minor and lemna valdiviana

Thank you. I knew I had the former but I was losing my mind trying to figure out if some were just big mutants. I think I actually have 3 species.

>forgot to wash stem plants from 55 before putting them in the 29

Lol fuck. It was probably like two but it will be 30 by now, and 200 by the time I feel like doing it. If you stay on top of it it's easy. Just poke it lightly with really dry finger tip if you get one in there.
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>>4304697
Try feeding him different foods. I have like 3-4 neon tetras that won't heal up from the 25 of 28 that came with ripped rotten fins 2 months on, and they're the pickiest eaters.
Is it milky or fuzzy? Let me know what works for you either way.

Blather:
It looks like standard fin rot that occasionally flares to columnaris for a day or two maybe with stress. Frigging neon immune systems. Antiobiots (maracyn 1, gram positive though) didn't seem to help enough. They're much more peaceful amongst each other now, but I'm just not willing to drop another $10 of medicine on $6 of butthole tetras.
I want to try melafix for the price, but I'm scared, and I've heard resistance is widespread after it was initially so effective for so cheap everyone used it. Asshole tetras might have to be guinea pigs for a couple drops of pure tea tree oil. You can watch it heal impetigo sores in real time. Also, may crush up some of the doxycyclines I have for my beautiful high test back and mix with food.
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anyone else photography guys in here? I have a 1:1 macro lens I bought for taking pics of bugs and it makes some kinda neat aquarium photos. Hard to get the light right tho.
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>>4304992
Wait, you didn't pay and leave the tank with the seller did you? Possession may not be 9/10ths of the law, but some people will treat it like it is.
How big? I manlet-handled a 55 gallon myself with a hand dolly and some duct tape.
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>>4304698
>>4304699
Ok, this is the trap, it stayed in a place with lots of light during day so not the ideal. Hopefully this spot will be available next weekend so I can leave the trap overnight. Weather forecast is for rain and it might change the water flow. If the flow is too strong I might get the debris issue again.
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>>4305102
Got 3 crayfish, two small fished and a small crab. Released them all except the crayfish. 3 crayfishes are not enough for a meal but I want to try them anyway since I never had them before. Also there is the experiment about giving garlic/onion/chilli pepper and see if they get seasoned by it from inside.
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>>4304998
He was just having his belly rubbed and got too ticklish :)
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>>4305061
I know absolutely nothing about photography but I'd love the ability to take better pictures than what my shitty phone camera can do. Any advice?
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>>4303625
Looks dope
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>>4303684
How? Isn‘t nz right next to aussieland? Don‘t they have a fuckton of coral reeflife?
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>>4305129
Whitebalance is a big thing. Normally your phone has a „pro“ mode when taking pics, play around with the settings a bit
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>>4305132
It's like 1200 miles of ocean between the two, and NZ has incredibly strict import laws due to being an island nation with a unique ecology.
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My garras have white spots on the face and the face only
What the fuck does that mean?
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Plop or drop or drip?
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>>4305267
Big or small white spots? Are they raised? How long have they been there? Panda garra or something else?

Could be anything from ich to a tumor to scraped scales.
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>>4305303
They resemble ampullae and have a clear pattern, actually i think it's nothing to worry about, just what pic rel is
Sorry for the alarmism
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One of my female guppies actually got better from whatever it is that makes them do shimmying. She started Friday, I did a water change to no immediate effect and assumed she'd die over the weekend, but now her fins aren't clamped and she's swimming normally.

Feels good to get a win instead of another notch on the hood. Goddamn do fancy guppies suck at being alive.
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my betta yeeted himself onto the carpet sometime last night :/
I now have an open cycled 10 gal
ideas on what to put in it?
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>>4305456
Medaka. Or pea puffers. Or shrimp. Or take the killifish pill.
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What the fuck, I had more than 25 Malawa shrimp in my tank, and I haven't seen any in a week. No corpses, no evidence of problems, other shrimp species all out doing shrimp stuff, no bodies from other shrimp either, but I haven't seen a single Malawa since last Monday.

I'm hoping they show back up but mostly I'm just confused because they were doing great and breeding, and didn't even apparently crash, just disappeared.
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Still trying to get a picture of these guys, they sometimes sit still for a whole half second once they've been fed.
Did finally manage to get some of the sparkle on camera though, really like that I went with these guys.
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>>4305462
Not that anon but I'm interested in Kilis. Give me the quick rundown.
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>>4305482
They're easy to keep but can be hard to find, some of them need the eggs to be pulled out and dry before they can hatch, and most of them don't live long because in the wild their habitats literally dry up every year, and then when rain refills it the eggs hatch and the next generation repeats.
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>>4305485
That's pretty neat.
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post your favourite cichlid
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>>4305517
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All the duckweed in my betta tank recently died off. Does this mean it's time for the quarterly water change?
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>>4304975
>>4305060
Here’s how he looks now. His tail fin was roughly 98% filled in a few days ago, but it started getting raggedy again almost as soon as I stopped dosing Sulfaplex. I’ve been doing daily water changes to expedite the healing, but relapsing as soon as I cut the meds is annoying. Even a Petsmart betta I have has had a more linear healing process.
I currently feed him Tropical Soft Line (Polish brand) pellets, but I’ll try a probiotic formula to see if that helps.
I also ran into this video that says that alien bettas are actually more prone to disease than true wild types and on par with most fancy domestics.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=oI_wmWGMTxM
If this treatment keeps going around in circles, I might consider giving him away or trading for a different fish.
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>>4305562
Also, this back-and-forth has been going on since May, and I got him in February. I tried several other treatments before it looked as though Sulfaplex was finally making a difference. He’s spent more time in this temporary hospital container than his actual home tank, and it’s really starting to get at me.
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>put 4 sinking algae wafers in 4 corners of the tank so my shy new fish have a chance
>everyone pushes all of them to the center anyways while eating them
>alpha loach is now guarding all four of them
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Well, I went for shrimp but they didn’t have literally any shrimp in stock. So I came home with some retarded noodle (khuli loaches). I got a mix between dried blood worms and I accidentally grabbed the marine sinking pellets. Not sure the label marine is an issue. Got some bottom feeder tablets on the way and access to algae wafers. Now, that all said, my little noodle dudes are all hiding away. I didn’t expect them to eat anything today, but I also didn’t want to put food in and just leave it because ammonia, etc. Should I or am I correct in thinking they’ll it likely eat today. There is plenty of stuff on the substrate, which I’ve heard they will eat some of…

Any loach bros got tips?
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>>4305614
They’ll not likely eat today, I mean*
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>>4305614
Coolies mostly eat towards night/dusk. I would put one in around the time the lights go off and check tomorrow morning, if it's gone they're eating good. If not you might want to fast them a day for them to get adjusted. Loaches aren't very picky generally so it shouldn't be a problem. Also marine vs freshwater food generally doesn't matter.
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>>4305614
You need at least 3 or 4 noodles for you to actually see them. They're super hiders. I put 1 single one in my 30 gallon and have seen it once in 6 months. Might be dead idk.
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>>4305622
Is it ok to leave food in for that long?

>>4305623
I have 5, I probably should’ve said.
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>>4305614
gardenofedershrimp is the best online site to order shrimp from. Ordered 100 shrimp from him in 2 seperate orders. Only a single DOA between them.
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>>4305632
Yes, overnight for a single pellet would be fine. I use shrimp and snails to never have to worry about removing food though.
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>>4305636
Oh these pellets are actually rather small, same for the worms. My roommate has algae wafers but he’s no currently around so I can’t open his bag.

They’re the Omega One Marine Small Sinking Pellets. I didn’t think they were ideal, but the selection at this lfs kind sucked, so that’s why I had some stuff Amazon next day on the way.

What brand would you recommend? I def intend on getting shrimp to help, I’m just not sure where the level of leftover would cause ammonia spike as I’m pretty new to this and my tank is not incredibly seasoned.
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>>4305638
I like the xtreme sinking algae wafers. All of my fish go ballistic for them. Shrimp also love them as much or more than 'specialist' shrimp food.
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>>4305634
Shout out to eBay for shrimp, I've had as good luck there as anywhere.

>>4305638
They should be fine eating marine stuff. Hikari is the go-to recommendation for fish foods - personally I'm a big fan of "ultra fresh" brand, no idea if they sell anywhere but Amazon but I got the small semi-floating pellets, loved them, and now have a bunch of their other stuff. Just avoid flakes for anything that doesn't explicitly need it, you can get fucking tiny (micrometer scale) pellets if you need to feed tiny mouths and uneaten flake fouls the water rather than falling down to the bottom for snails.
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>buy blue velvets a month and a half ago
>the best looking one dies the next day with no apparent cause
>buy red cherries a day ago
>the best looking one just turned up dead with no apparent cause
Come ON.
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>>4305697
i killed them, not sorry desu. learn to appreciate wild type shrimp.
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>>4305697
Okay, nvm. One guy colored up to look like a fire red. Wish I hadn't seen him because now the witches of fate are eyeballin' him.
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Oдeca barbs are so fucking good looking bros.
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Are amano really the best for eating algae? They're kind of boring, I'm not going lie.
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>>4305767
Visually, I mean.
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has anyone here had any luck with ordering fish online? the nearest pet stores are at least a 3 hour drive. obviously i wouldn't necessarily trust eBay sellers per se, but I'm not sure how shipping fish works, particularly when its cold. do they just get instructed to hold at the post office or something?
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I can't imagine a couple pieces of wood getting fuzzy again after rescape caused the death when I see some of the shrimp eating it and there's still some specks of fuzz in my 40g. I hope it was just stress.

>>4305805
If you tell the post office to hold it and your USPS office isn't a turd, they will. Usually sellers offer 2 hr doa refund with pic/video of delivery (read description obviously, sometimes as is) so you gotta watch that tracking.
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Fuck, my betta jumped out of his tank while I was at work.
Found his dried husk on the floor when I got home...
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>>4305069
Damn, got a like 12 hydra in a high flow corner the 40 gallon. They won't hurt any shrimplets where they are now, but Fucked up and put some crushed flake food into flow because I thought saw a shrimplet, even though that's why a hydra showed up before.
Will Cory cats eat hydras? I might add them early; I was only waiting for the sake of shrimplets anyway.
Should I just cut way back on food? Sinking pellet only? Buy (fug) no planaria?
Hitting them directly with metricide 28 seems to fuck them up as well, maybe since they're the green variety, so I'll get on that at lights on.
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>>4305069
It was listed on the local rag, he took it down and was going to pay on wed arvo as he agreed to 2.7 cash.
Just got a text this morning saying someone offered him 4k and he's taking that offer, so back to square 1 I guess. Bit of a dick move but hey.
There's a local tank builder that can do an almost identical tank (low iron, not starphire or w/e) for about 1.5k so I'll get to building a stand for it and tank it in due time.
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>>4305069
Oh
>how big
460lbsnot including stand, waterbox reef pro 180.5.
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>>4304312
Neat, thank you very much!
Would you be able to give a top to bottom of where the different nano rasboras tend to hang out, if you are familiar with them?
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how to instantly cycle my tank?

or at least speed up the process significantly?

dropped food as ammonia source, dumped bacteria. just wait now?
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>>4305928
Seachem stability cycles it instantly, you just need to dose every day for the first week
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>>4305928
I doubt anything would beat a used filter from a healthy old tank
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>>4305940
It's what I've always done.
Grab a spare or get the filter I'll be using with the new tank and let it filter alongside in an existing tank for a month or two beforehand.
Never understood the "I need to get a new tank NOW and I want to fill it with fish NOW" then go get the tank, filter, substrate, lights etc whatever you don't already have on hand. Too rushed, too impatient, but that's just me and we're all autistic here.
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Thinking about getting some MTS but I know they breed like rabbits, any tips for keeping their population under control?
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>>4305836
I'm sorry to hear, anon. Sometimes fish do be that way.
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>>4305805
I just received 9 healthy medaka I bought on ebay yesterday. Shrimp last week. They ship with breather bags which work by way of witch magic. Post office leaves the boxes by the door and I get them after work. The door is in the shade and it's been in the 70s so it's fine. I probably won't do this during the winter or hottest part of summer, so I'm stocking up now.
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what height do you all have your substrate at?
enough to keep plants? any other considerations?
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>>4305805
Nearly all of my fish (100+) were purchased online. I had a few DOAs, but the combination of convenience and price makes it worth it, for me.

Aquahuna is great, aquaticarts is pretty good but shipping is brutal, bioacuatica (only place I've found Odessa barbs for good price) and glassgrown (both dot com) are smaller ones I've used to really good results.
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>>4305938
>trusting the seachem jews
nah. bottled bacteria is pretty much a scam.

>>4305958
They don't breed that much compared to bladder/pond/ramshorn snails, just dont feed excessively. If you get too many snails add assassin snails and reduce feeding or feed something that doesn't hit the bottom like a floating food.
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>>4305462
>>4305475
>>4305976
Medaka gang rise up
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>>4305938
>>4305928
Be wary of "bottled bacteria". They might help, or they might do nothing, depending on your luck and the one you choose.

Adding a mature filter, or even just some filtration material, speeds things up significantly, but there's no way to instantly cycle.
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>>4306009
i'm just waiting on a good airstone, the air hoses and my water to cycle.
planning on a water change once these things arrive/happen and then onto the new fish

a tiny 3cm pleco to start. got him an anubias
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>>4305923
I don't claim to be an expert, but they're mostly very similar. The reason Least (and I think Pygmy) are on the bottom more than others is their natural habitat is very dark, so any aquarium lights will drive them further down.

The rest of the micros I've kept or researched tend to be like a swarm of livebearers, they mostly hang out in "the middle" in a fairly tight group, which really means they go all over but don't hang out right at the top or on the substrate.

If you haven't kept them before, just make sure you have fairly soft water to start (they can adjust slowly to harder but are sensitive because they're so tiny), and I'd recommend kubotai, Phoenix (who stay a bit more toward the top) or chilis. Just get at least 12 and ideally 20+ of any of those, as they're fucking tiny fish and a little shy. If I were to start a new tank for them, I'd put 24 phoenix rasboras with 10 habrosus corys in a 10 or 15 gallon tank. Add a ton of leaf litter and wooden hardscape, then cover the ground and wood with as many plants as you can fit - for cover not nitrate absorption - plus your floater of choice, and baby you've got a stew going.
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>>4306033
>tiny pleco
I hope you do know the smallest Plecos grow to 4" and the biggest to over 24". Also give it some sort of real wood, a lot of them need some to chew on in order to not die.

>>4305997
I can't for the life of me find any koi/tricolor medaka for sale in the US. I would drop redcap money on them, if I could find them, those in the pic are fucking gorgeous.

>>4305987
I aim for about 3", but I also have settled on a nutrient rich soil capped by fluorite as my go-to for plants. If I were to do a fully sand bottom tank, I'd stop at 1-2".
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>>4306044
bristlenose, so yeah, i'm ready for it to grow. i just like knowing that i had them small. if i manage to keep them alive that is.

is it possible to buy more than one type of fish and quarantine them in the same tank? or is that unreasonable and i should just bite the shipping fee cost everytime

and the 2-4 week quarantine time.

what's the protocol on all of this, do i go slow adding the fish or can i rush it once everything is set?
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>>4306069
I don't quarantine personally. If you're getting fish from a reputable seller, you shouldn't need to. But if you decide to, yes you can quarantine them together - the point is to be able to make sure they don't have any communicable diseases before you introduce them to your main tank.
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I can't get over how tiny shrimplets are! This one is probably 2-3 weeks old even, not nearly as small as they come.
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Dumbass swordtail is still trying to fuck my flag fish. Mostly the smaller males.
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> It's a Betta decided to build the bubble nest in the feeding ring episode

Of all the places why this one?
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>>4306094
My shrimp feed my redfin shark. Very few shrimplets make it to adulthood in my tank.
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>>4305768
Compared to other shrimp? Several times over. They're not necessarily better than some fish though. But yeah it's unfortunate they're not nearly as nice looking as caridina or neos.
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>>4306109
Calmest, clearest water. Easy structure to adhere to. There's every reason for him to build it there and none (to him) not to.
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>>4306117
Short Nose Algae Shrimp (Caridina Longirostris) shrimp do about as good of a job and look different, if not necessarily any better or worse. They can reproduce in freshwater, too.
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>>4306119
Nice, didn't even know about these, thanks.
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Shrimpchads, can I get some help on an ID? Can't tell if it's tangerine tiger or a low grade orange rili neo
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>>4306177
Second angle, if it helps.
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Would not eating be a sign of internal parasites? I have one fish that will either not go after food or ends up spitting out everything.
A lot of the others in the group seem to bloat after eating even small amounts so I'm thinking I need to treat the whole tank for internal parasites.
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The noodles have yet to come out. I think I have too good of hiding spots for them, because I can't even see them hiding.

Dropped an algae wafer in close to their hiding spots, hopefully they'll come out for it. They've got to be hungry sometime.
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Weird question but has anyone here preserved their fish after death? If so, how do you do it?
I just really, really like wet specimens and as a kid I wanted to have my own museum cabinet. One of my fish just died and I would really like to try it out.
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>>4306195
In a few months of having them, I've never seen my kuhlis eat, ever. I just drop in a wafer before lights out and in the morning it's gone. If I drop it earlier in the day they just won't eat until it's dark.
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>>4306195
You need more of them to feel safe. The saying I've heard is you need a plate's worth to see any pastas.

On another note, I was peacefully watching my livebearer tank a few minutes ago, and it occurs to me that for such a peaceful looking environment, there's a whole lot of rape.
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>>4306209
In the livebearer's defense it's pretty much just males handing females some cum. Females can pretty much decide wether they want to get pregnant or not.
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>>4306204
Resin is usually the go-to for anything not huge.
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1. Wait for air hose / Wait for air stone
2. Cycle fish tank / test water
3. Clean substrate, water change
4. Clean intake sponge
5. Arrange plants
6. Heater, temperature controller
7. Air pump / Put in air stones and ornaments
8. Wait for Ice Brick
9. Trip to aquarium store
a. Pick up order / frozen foods
b. Pick up mela/pimafix
10. Setup quarantine aquarium
a. Clean substrate
b. Install filter
c. Cycle
d. 2nd heater
11. Install Wavemaker
12. Buy pleco at petbarn, test water at petbarn. test at home, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate. 0 0 x
a. Buy fishnet
13. Buy panda Corydoras
a. Quarantine them 2-4 weeks
b. Consider pygmy Corydoras in the same purchase
14. Snails, Shrimps & A Betta

15. Cut new hose lengths and pieces. CALCULATE THOROUGLY
16. Install tap connectors
17. Add all filter media
a. Poly-fiber, cotton, 3x foam
18. Install in/outlet

Power Outlets Required:
Filter
RGB LED Strip
LED Strip
Air Pump
Heater
Temperature Controller
Wavemaker


It's been a wild ride and I'm only getting started.

Which corydoras besides the pygmy, are on the smaller side, common enough and never get beyond 3cm or so? I like the look of the albino corydoras in the store immensenly but it's like buying puppies and getting rid of the fullsized dog etc.
They just get too big for my taste and I'm trying to research suitable cories to get. mostly settled on pandas but could be swayed for similis or hasbrosus if i can find them
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>>4306209
I thought 5 would be enough, but maybe I should go get 5 more.
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>>4306237
Don't you need to fix specimens in formalin anyway before putting in resin or otherwise they rot? Feel like you might as well just keep it in formalin at that point
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>>4306009
>he doesnt know
Seachem uses spores that activate on dilution, as to not cause die off during storage.

Stability says on the bottle you can add fish day one, it has a 4,8/5 rating based on mora than 6000 amazon reviews.

Shit works.
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>>4306239
Get habrosus (salt and pepper) cories. Much more interesting fish than pygmies imo and don't get much bigger
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>>4306239
The only other tiny cory species I know of that you didn't mention would be nanus and hastatus, they both seem uncommon though.
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>wake up to find one of my fish bloated but still active
>eh maybe I can still save him
>take 10 minutes to set up quarantine tank
>in the space of those 10 minutes my tiny 1/4 inch baby dwarf crayfish fucking dragged the sick fish to the bottom and murdered it
Well fuck man.
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>>4306246
holy shit i just found a seller.
i think this is it.
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So it turns out that "five potted buce" translates to roughly 30 little plants. My hardscape is now stacked with green, and my hands and (somehow) hair have superglue on them.
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>>4306242
Remember that in the wild, most shoaling fish live in groups of at least a couple dozen, and schooling fish tend to have hundreds to thousands. Shy breeds in particular basically need to see another fish they recognize (dither species can sometimes do it) or they're going to try and hide.
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>>4306270
Any place you would recommend for getting more as well as shrimp?

Down the line I wanted pea puffers and while some people have had khulis in with them, I was worried. But maybe having a bigger group will make them less likely to get bullied.
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>>4306239
>small corys
Habrosus ("salt and pepper"), pygmy, and hastatus are the three most common ones. The latter two are very shy and are mid-column fish, hastatus is theorized to have evolved to mimic and coschool with a specific type of tetra, so habrosus is the best choice for mini cory. They are pretty calm - I had a school down to 3 at one point and they were still out and about - and act like big corys, digging in the sand and hanging out near the bottom, so I highly recommend them. Get to no more than 3cm, and all of my males have stopped growing at about 2-2.5cm.

Panda are a bit bigger, I'd say 4cm rather than 3, but probably the smallest of the super common corys, and are also one of the most energetic if you keep them in a big enough school.

If you don't have snails you care much about, look into rosy and Dwarf chain loaches, they fit a similar niche.

>>4306245
Seachem's own research shows no increased speed of cycling. Just because people rate it well doesn't mean it actually does anything - there are so many other ways to unintentionally kickstart your cycle that newbies would never consider that all the Amazon reviews in the world mean nothing. I'm not saying it doesn't actually help start the cycle, just there has been no proof I've ever been able to find or see, only anecdotal evidence on both sides and inconclusive official (seachem) and unofficial experiments.

If I sold a sterile rubber ball to add when you start an aquarium and promised that it helped, 90% of buyers would say it works, because the process of starting the aquarium inevitably gets the nitrogen cycle, eventually. And roughly half of them would finish cycling quicker than the average cycle time. Doesn't mean the ball had anything to do with it.
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>>4306251
I remember warning you about that dwarf crayfish, if you're the same anon.

Sorry about your fish.
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How do you keep shrimp well-fed in a tank with fast and active bottom-feeding fish that hoover up everything that touches the substrate?
I've had a few amanos for months and a handful of red cherries for a few weeks, they seem to be fine but I'm scared they'll start to starve
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>>4306296
It's really hard to starve shrimp. But you can get bacterae of other similar "biofilm support" powders if you're worried.
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Is 10 Khuli loaches, 5 amano shrimp, and like 8 pea puffers too much for a 29 gallon? It’s pretty heavily planted, but not grown in yet. Only thinking of adding the khulis and shrimp for now, but for the future.
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>>4306267
Where'd you buy from, been thinking about some buce for my tank but I worry when they're sold as potted that it will end up being only one or two plants. That shit happened to me a year ago, got some wavy green and it was two good sized plants but one was too far down in the rock wool and the rhyzome melted.
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>>4306327
This was my first time buying from BucePlant, but they had a sale on 5 pots of mixed buce and one of my apps found a 15% off discount code, so it ended up being like $40 for the five pots. I ended up with most of what I'd have picked myself - a kedang, black pearl, Catherine, godzilla (only one I was meh on but the leaves are 5"+ and I got three big ass rhzomes plus a couple two-three leafers) and tricolor velvet.
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>>4306327
Oh and for what it's worth, I also got some crypt (wendetti gecko) from them and it was a generous, well potted and packaged portion. Given the flat shipping, I was quite happy with the order.

I looked up the code too, it was TEAMBUCEFB, not sure if it's still active but I bet it is.
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>>4306340
That was who I bought from before too, I remember I got two pots of crypts and ended up with like 11 individual plants. Something about them trying to charge $7 for insulated boxes when I looked recently rubbed me the wrong way.
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>>4305573
I got that New Life Spectrum food today to start feeding him, and hopefully that’ll clear up the fin rot for good. That video on alien bettas still has me uneasy.
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>>4305715
They really are.
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>>4306182
>>4306177
Low grade orange rili
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Tips for acclimating shrimp without tubing? I got Amanos on the way but I got no tubing or way to heat the drip container. Also afraid of them jumping out.
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>>4306429
I've added amanos straight to the tank without acclimation with 0 deaths before they're bullet proof compared to cherries.
If you really can't drip acclimate I'm sure just adding a small amount of water ever 5-10 minutes will work.
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>>4306441
Yeah, I was more worried about the temp, but because it’s a breather bag they’ll be in I can’t just float it. Am I just over thinking it and can net them out and plop the, in?
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>>4306442
If the tank is close to room temp you can just let them sit in the bag in the room for a while.
With shipped fish the main concern is getting them out of their own shit, with shrimp you have to worry more about parameter changes.

If you really are worried just get them into a small bowl or something and add some water from the tank every 5 minutes. Temp will get closer and they'll be less shocked.
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>>4306442
just get a plastic cup and add a bit of water every few minutes, do this for ~1 hour. then just yeet them in (without the water you acclimated) amanos are quite possibly the single hardest non pest aquarium creature to kill, so theyll be fine.
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>>4306387
Thanks. For future reference, anything specific that tipped you off?
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>>4306444
>>4306445
Thanks anon, the room sits around 70-72 while the tank is around 77, so it was enough of a change but a quicker version of the drip acclimation by transferring water into a bucket at a faster rate should serve, I hope.

Is it true these fuckers will jump out, I don’t want to find my cat crunching on a fresh snack when I look away from the bucket lol
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>>4306429
What size tank? Tubing is very useful for slow water changes if the tank is smaller than 20 gallons, and gradual water changes are safer for shrimp.

Also if they're amanos (honestly probably cherries too) they don't need the drip. Only sensitive cardinias are likely to have problems with gH and ph shock. In fact, if they were shipped its possible for the elevated ammonia in their original water, which converts from ammonium when the water gets an influx of oxygen as you cut the bag, to be more dangerous than the shock of just temperature acclimation.
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>>4306453
It’s a 29 gallon, and I know that there in those breathable bags. But thanks for the reassurance!
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>>4306445
There are some fish that are as survivable - goldfish and mosquitofish for example - but this anon is pretty much correct, amano are stupid hardy. They also commonly live much longer than you'd expect - there are endless anecdotes of people with amanos that make it a decade or longer.
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>>4306441
Hm, I may have lucked out. I had like 5 deaths over the first month in a group of about 30. I figured that was normal when some people said expect to lose up to half.
Anyways, I floated the bag for 20 minutes, added it to an equal amount of tank water, and then added a gallon worth of tank water over a couple hours (poured from the jug like a waiter lol), finally dumping the whole bucket in.
I had guests over when they showed up, in my defense.
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>>4306492
I actually did basically the same but shorter with the red cherries as the seller said an hour should be fine. Lost one of the dozen, see three molts and three acting like they're gonna molt soon.
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Am I weird for thinking that my Fluval Plant 3.0 being so close above the glass top will cause it to crack due to temperature?
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>>4306296
shrimp need almost no food unless you're trying to shrimpmaxx. I have like 3 shrimp in a 0.2 gallon bowl that i never feed and they've been alive for about a year now. They don't breed but they live just fine.
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Do only Boomers keep rainbowfish? When I was a kid, I remember them being one of the most common fish in stores, and now I don't ever see them, or even hear them discussed.
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Did I get scammed? Or is this shit legit?
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>try vibra bites for my apisto borellis
>they immediately home in on it, think i have a home run new food for them, normally they're picky with dry food
>watch male hold it in his mouth for 30 seconds then discreetly spit it out
that was $8 you bitch, at least the platys will eat it. but they'll eat anything.
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>>4306532
most shrimp minerals and other shit like that are woo bullshit. I've kept bee shrimp in the most basic bitch setups just buffered with some crushed coral.
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aquarium light malfunctioning
$40 off craigslist + some t5 bulbss (narrow expensive bulbs)
i cant find any numbers or id info on it
can anyone id this based on the pic?

the problem:
i have the light on a timer, it doesnt turn on when the timer is switched on, but if i tap it, the light does turn on!
when the light has been running and is 'warmed up' it will turn on when the timer turns on
but
if it has not been used for an hour or so and is not 'warmed up', when the timer switches to 'on' the device does not turn on unless i tap it. what is going on??
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>>4306563
old style light with a condenser that's dying. you might be able to access it. my old aquarium light has one.
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>>4306532
If you use RO water and need to remineralize it's probably good. If you aren't using RO... questionable.
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>>4306243
They look way, way better in resin even if you were going the extra step and doing actual preserving. Also, they will last way, way longer than any internet commando will be willing to admit. Literally every dude out there will be like, "DON'T DO IT IT'LL DECAYYYY!111!!!" Yet lots of people have done it successfully anyway for a long, long ass time. But yes, someday it should theoretically decay. The tricky part is really just getting excess moisture out (and doing it without making the fish look like an anchovy). Droplets of water are rather bad for resin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ77vvj3dkU

It's an extremely low risk/low cost experiment.
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Is it ok to leave a shrimp pellet overnight or is it better to remove it when you think they've eaten enough? My khulis are really skittish so they're not visibly eating, but it looks like they might've nibbled half of one of the pellets. I dropped two in.
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>>4306642
If it’s in a heavily planted tank with good filtration, then it’s fine I think. Add shrimp if you don’t have them already.
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>>4306644
Shrimps are on the way. It's decently heavily planted, but a lot hasn't fully grown in yet. I'm using a double sponge filter for now (really been considering upgrading, but haven't had any issues yet).

Maybe I should just remove them to be safe, if they haven't eaten them after they've been in there for like 3 hours maybe they wont.
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>>4306532
I use it in my tanks. Has no copper in it so its a decent all in one liquid fertilizer for low tech planted tanks and shrimp tanks.
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im gonna eat all your shrimp
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>>4306642
I've never had any leftover food sitting on the substrate in the mornings, I've got about 10-14 kuhlis (can't remember when I counted them all. Last time I moved tank I guess?).
If there is leftover food in the mornings, then IMO either they will not touch it or you're overfeeding them already. I would recommend trying out some vegetables, leafy greens etc, not as nutrient or fat dense but variation etc.

Regardless, if you're lucky enough to see them during the day, don't squander the moment.
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>>4306680
Jokes on you, I can't even buy freshwater shrimp.
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>>4306302
>>4306499
Frig. Wish I knew this before I pozzed myself with hydra by overfeeding. They seem to be disappearing in their own; the snails eat them sometimes. I hope they didn't just relocate somewhere shrimplets will be.
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>>4306524
Probably. They tend toward bigger flatter fish. I looked at them for a second until I saw these little chads next to them. Legions of zippy fish are far more interesting than a few lunking turds.
Cory cats >>>>>>>> plecos, for example.
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my water ph is relatively high, it's testing at like 7.4 or 7.6. there should be no reason it should be that high
i've still yet to get a water hardness tester but the old pipes will be causing problems there i guess

ammonia at 0.25
nitrite at 0
nitrate at 0

it's been a few days since ive put in the quickstart. how long should it take before the ammonia subsides to 0? and i start getting nitrite and nitrate readings. do i need a decent amount of ammonia to start the process?

is there a minimum i should be aiming for?
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do you guys know any good /aq/ youtube channels? also I want to know more about plants, If you know some sites to look and investigate
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will my plants survive without having the water cycled? no nitrates?
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>>4306532
I use Thrive, S and C in different tanks, it seems to work for my plants, they stopped developing the little pinholes in their leaves and have been growing a lot more steadily.
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>>4306769
Generally yes. They won't grow much, might melt back a bit, but shouldn't die. Adding plants will likely speed up the cycle even, because they come from somewhere else that has bacteria.

>>4306760
That's pretty normal for tap water, mine is 7.6 pH with about 10 gH and 3 KH, and that's once I run it cold for a couple minutes. If you aren't keeping blackwater fish, it probably won't matter, just plan stocking accordingly.

To your other question, yes you probably want more ammonia in there (the more you put in, the more bacteria grows to eat it), keep adding or shadow feeding or however you're doing it it doesn't really matter. In terms of timing, it's taken me anywhere from 5 to 15 days from first ammonia to first nitrite in a virgin tank. Just keep adding ammonia now and again, and waiting. Adding plants or hardscape that's been in another tank will potentially speed it up, but beyond that or finding a friend who can give you some seeded material, it's a patience game.
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>>4306610
Thanks for the link anon. I ordered formalin online already so I can preserve them for good, formalin won't fuck up resin right?
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Got a lot of dust algae building up on my side/back glass. Should I get Otos or Snails to keep it down? I don't really like bristlenoses.
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>>4306835
Then you're in luck because BNPs are not very good algae eaters.

Nerites or amano are the best choices for low bioload algae eating. Otos, stiphodon gobies, flagfish, or SAEs all do pretty good job otherwise.
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>>4306838
I've already got Amanos and a horde of Cherry Shrimp but they struggle to stick to the glass. Sometimes I'll see a shrimplet hanging on but they don't make a dent in it. I'd rather not deal with Nerite eggs and I don't have any hair algae problems so I guess I'll pick up some Otos.
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Anyone know what are some breeding signs to look out for in shellies? I've seen my female try to lure the only male into her shell. She'd swim and make the male follow her and she'd get into the shell but the male wouldn't follow her in. Is this breeding behaviour?
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I should've gotten more than 5 amanos, this hair algae just wont quit.
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>>4306886
If you have a big enough tank siamese algae eaters will genocide hair algae real quick. I had 3 in a 75 kill hair algae in a week and that was with regular feedings, they're dickheads to each other though I would recommend only one.
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>>4306901
I'm running a 29g planted with 5 khulis now and soon 5 amano, maybe eventually 10 khulis and 6-8ish pea puffers. Not sure if they'll all jive, but I'll definitely give it some thought.
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Well today I learned that, once again, the "internet at large" doesn't know shit about this hobby. All the crowing about low nitrates in freshwater, but actual experimental research has found that you need really high nitrate to be acutely toxic. As in, 800 ppm for guppy fry. See pic - note that the measurements are in NO3-N, whereas the API test kit looks at straight nitrate, which translates to 4.4x the ppm.
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>>4306901
>>4306915
Flag fish will do it too, and don't get as big or need as large of a school. They can be nippy, though. Doubt the kuhlis would get harassed, but the puffers might.

I added a few to a tank that was overrun with algae and it got nuked almost overnight. They're machines.
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>>4306935
I'd be honestly more worried that the puffers would nip them.
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Is it dumb that I got little snails and I think they're cute and not pests (yet)?
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>>4306936
Nah they're much larger and faster than dwarf puffers and fairly intelligent for fish - if a puffer nipped them, they'd probably body it afterwards. Or they'd just ignore it, and either way it would hurt them because they're very tough fish with essentially no SMASHING and SLAMMING in their genetic line.

I was thinking of flying foxes when I said you needed a school, always get those mixed with true SAEs. If you can get one that's not mislabeled, one SAE would probably do better, but a male/female pair or harem setup with flagfish would look prettier (imo).
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>>4306943
I loved my little snails when I first started. I still don't mind them, though my ramshorn and bladder snail populations have cratered due to losing out on food competition, so it's mostly MTS pests in my tanks.

Regardless, I still think snails are fun to watch, any size or type.
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>>4306933
This is not news. aquariumscience already covered this and we post that website here all the time.

However, feel free to keep a high NO3 tank and see how you fare. You will find that it is not so cut and dry. Both this list and aquariumscience only study the effects in the short term, specifically on fish. It does not reveal how your tank will become covered uncontrollably with algae along with the massive snail population boom that goes with it, or the additional stressors on the fish weakening their immune systems, or the massive overpopulation of detritus worms and all kinds of weird shit from not regularly cleaning your tank. It is specifically toxicity of NO3.

If you don't want to do maintenance, just don't get a pet. I don't mean just fish, I mean any pet, except perhaps a pet rock.
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>>4306971
Holy projection, batman. Never said anything about letting nitrates get that high or not doing maintenance, just that nitrates directly poisoning fish is basically a myth.
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I've never seen a Florida Flagfish at my local shops, are they just an American thing or have I not been looking hard enough?
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hey, so I'm new to fish tanks and was wondering if I use tap water am I able to put it into the tank then add the dechlorinator if I don't have fish in there yet and let the filters run for a few days or should I go get 5 gallon buckets and de chlorinate those then pour them in.
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>>4306991
I'm pretty new, too but the consensus that I got is either way is fine. The issues with the individual bucket version is the dosing, but I don't think even that is a big deal. It's just easier to dose the tank for the amount you'll put in and then dump it in from the tap. This may also vary if your tap water needs more treatment, though.

I'd like to hear from more experienced people, but that is what I've gathered from googling.
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>>4306991
Yes you can but generally it's best to add the dechlor to the new water or to the tank right before adding it. Chlorine can turbo your bacteria, even in very small amounts - it precipitates too fast to really harm fish, but losing a large chunk of your filtration can definitely hurt them.
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>>4306981
>unprompted post declaring community at large wrong about NO3
>I... I definitely wasn't planning on letting Nitrates run that high!
Then why bother mentioning it? Nice backtrack, bro.
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>>4306901
Why won't my faggot siamese algae eater touch hair algae?
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>>4306524
>>4306731
In my purely anecdotal experience I've noticed that boomers are in fact much more likely to keep just a few big fish than a community tank full of little fish.
All monster fish keepers seem to be boomers too. Why is this?
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>>4307007
Are you feeding it too much? mine went crazy for it.
Pretty sure that it's the bulk of their diet in the wild so it's not something that you have to train them to go after. Try adding in some fasting days when you don't feed at all and see if they go after it more.
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>>4306989
They are literally an American thing. Only found in Florida, looks like the US flag, not exported much (as we don't have huge breeding facilities like in Asia).

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>>4306994
You can definitely fill the tank up and add dechlorinator. Dechlorinator works in minutes. Once your fish is in there, there are some arguments to be had of doing dechlorination out of the tank, but generally both ways are acceptable. My issue with doing it in the tank are:
1) You're just having to use more dechlorinator.
2) Probably doesn't feel great to have a blast of chlorine in the face while the dechlorinator hasn't mixed well yet.
3) You're already temp-matching water in the bucket: might as well add dechlorinator.
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>>4307014
So here's my question as a noob, how are people generally temperature matching the water? A separate heater for that? Or does it only matter with big water changes?
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I'm about ready to give up on microswords as a low tech carpeting plant. It grows fine, but every single runner ends up in the water column, and I'm not sure if it's the fish, the snails, the mild water flow, or what, but it's been 4 months and the three pots' worth have become vibrant, tiny clumps surrounded by encroaching Val.

Any recommendations for replacement? I have fluorite capped aquasoil, unheated tank so 70-80 F. I like the look of hydrocotyle tripartita but am concerned it'll have the same issue or worse, so at this point leaning toward basic bitch Shoreweed.
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>>4307011
It takes a shitload of money and space to keep monster fish. Who do you think would have the money to do it? House-owning Boomers or NEETs living in a one bedroom apartment?

You can also scale up small fish to large aquariums (see Takashi Amano's exhibits), but you can't scale large fish to small tanks.

Nothing against either. I like both small and large fish.
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>>4307015
For my 10 gallon that is unheated I just let the water sit in a bucket over night. For my 75 I end up having to use some hot water mixed in to get it close, especially in the winter. I was skeptical of using it since I was always taught water that went through a water heater wasn't meant for drinking but I haven't had any problems.
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>>4307015
>temp matching
For my small tanks I'll fill an empty bucket and let it sit a couple hours, this also helps some various things dissipate into the air, and general drops my tap TDS by a few dozen ppm. For a bigger tank, I don't bother, and the tank temp just drops a few degrees during the process. Water temp can vary drastically across a even just a few feet of water in the real world, and I've never noticed any adverse effect on my stock from going tap to bucket (plus dechlor) to tank.
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>>4307014
so I just add whatever amount I need in dechlorinator for the amount of gallons im adding then add the water? and do you usually just let the filters run for a few days before getting fish?
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>>4307018
>famous aquarist
>named after a shrimp
What are the odds?
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>>4307015
If it's a small water change, you don't need to worry about it. For instance if you put 1 gallon of actual ice in a 20G tank at 78F, it's going to lower the temp to just slightly under 76F when it is all melted (which, btw, is why every summer I cringe at the people telling everyone to put a frozen 16 oz bottle of water in a fucking 20G tank as if that'll do something). For some stock even a large change doesn't matter that much within reason. Like a pleco won't get shocked with temp change unless it's absolutely massive (hard scaled fish tend to take temp changes much better than soft scaled fish).

I personally have a separate heater for my saltwater changes since I tend to let that mix overnight (regardless of what the label says, it is best practice to mix for a few hours at least because the parameters don't settle right away: BRStv did a comparison on all their salt brands and they all changed over time significantly).

For freshwater I just have a thermometer and try to adjust the tap to be reasonably close. If I'm really lazy I just stick my finger in and best guess.
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>>4307025
Yes, you need to run the filters for a while before fish, or you risk killing fish with nitrite poisoning. Google nitrogen cycle or how to cycle an aquarium, but the gist of it is you need to add some sort of ammonia source and run the filters for a few weeks to get the bacteria that turns various organic waste (potentially toxic) into mostly harmless Nitrate, which is then removed by water changes and plants.

If you don't want to wait, you can do a "fish in cycle" but it's more effort and not great for the fish, so if you go that way, you need to put in a very small number of hardy fish, a single betta or platy or a trio of feeder minnows are common choices, and then still wait for the cycle to complete before adding more.
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>>4307025
If you're adding dechlorinator to the tank, always add enough to dechlorinate the entire, full tank. If you're adding dechlorinator before to the bucket, you only need enough for the bucket.

As for starting a new tank, I haven't started either a totally new, from scratch, fresh or saltwater tank in literally over a decade so I may be the wrong person to ask. However the next immediate concern after dechlorination is the development of Nitrifying bacteria, Nitrosomonas and Nitrobacter, which takes weeks. However lots of people have added fish Day 1 with plenty of success. Waiting a few days doesn't really make a difference vs adding Day 1.

You can speed up the cycle with various techniques (adding established media, adding detritus juice from a squeezed established sponge, added bottled bacteria; that is in order of effectiveness).

You either add your fish in right away and mitigate any issues you go, or you wait weeks to be safe and develop a decently mature biofilter. Most here prefer the latter. On the one hand, people have had success both ways. On the other, the biggest asset in this hobby is patience so... might as well practice now. That said, I most definitely started a tank or two years ago fish first and those fish are still with me.
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Is it ok to feed your fish only once a day? Everyone says 2-3 times a day online but I don't know if that's a meme
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>>4307018
Man, you reminded me that he's no longer around and made me sad. Dude was a fucking God of this hobby.
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>>4307039
Yes, 2-3 times is overkill pushed by food manufacturers. An adult fish doesn't need much food, lots of people do every other day or put in "fast days", but one of their eyeball's worth of food each day is plenty.
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>>4307040
I once went to an exhibition of his tanks and it was what made me go from spongebobs and neon gravel to being a massive planted tank fag
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>>4307040
I only hope that one day my shitty attempt at a 'scape comes together so well. Right now, my Co2 is not nearly enough and the hair algae is making everything ugly. Feel like I've got years of growth to go before it looks full, too.
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>>4307039
Every other day is good for most adult fish, or every day for higher metabolism fish. If you have fry, you may want to feed more to achieve a faster growth rate, but doing so will cause your nitrates to go up so you will need to manage your chemistry well. The best feeding regimen is on the conservative side and is something you can consistently execute. Fish love consistency. Hope that helped!
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Has anyone bred zebra acaras or other dwarf acaras? I have recently aquired a pair of zebra acaras and a few laetacara species and am gonna start playing around with the ph and tds. Anyone have any experience?
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>>4306981
The effects of nitrogenous waste are highly, highly dependent on species. Especially true of ammonia and nitrite which have variable toxicity at different pH.

That said, a lack of acute toxicity doesn't necessarily mean chronic toxicity isn't there. There isn't a lot of research on that matter and excessive nitrate levels are usually indicative of some kind of deficiency in your system that will indirectly cause other problems.
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>>4307018
Nah, I don't think that's it. I've been seeing boomers keep fish as long as the tank theyre in for decades now. But nice try, boomer.
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>>4307018
I actually had in my original post that I can't even stand the sight of kissing fish anymore because every other fucking boomer I knew had two constantly "kissing" in a 20-30 gallon.
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>gbr pair starting to harass lone female out of the blue
>going out if their way to look for her
>55 gallon tank is 50% plants by volume
>look for advice
>"I added a plant to my 29 gallon and now all three pairs get along fine!"
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>>4307183
My Nannacara anomala have been breeding for me regularly. My tapwater is soft, around neutral pH. Been feeding them a mix of repashy, frozen foods, insect-based pellets, and a variety of live foods.
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>>4307422
Do you have other dithers in the tank? some tetras might be something else they can chase away that will be too fast to get beat up.
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I want fiddler crabs
is this a bad idea? nothing will go wrong, right?

https://www.instructables.com/Under-water-Dry-zone-for-fiddler-crabs/
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>>4307430
Yeah, 25 neons. Frustrating. I may just move her to another tank, but she'll be a bit chilly.
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>>4307447
Guess they're just cichlids being cichlids. I had a pair of blood parrots that fucked like rabbits for 5 months, then one day the male decided he didn't want the female anywhere near him and beat the shit out of her.
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>>4307451
Probably. I knew I was in over my head the moment they started coloring up. At least I've seen eggs. Wish my 10 gallon would age 6 months instantly so I can plop those assholes in there when they need to fuck (off).
Also got GSA showing up, but diatoms are finally slowing down. I wasn't aware of and guess I never fully went through the "algae cycle" when I had this tank fully operational for a couple months a decade ago. At least I hope that's what's going on.
Looks like the same thing is happening in the 40 gallon but the shrimp are getting everywhere they can reach. Output from fluval 307 is a bit much for them I guess.
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>>4307460
that's a beautiful shrimp

15 dorrar
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for a first tank do you guys think I should go with live plants or put fake ones in? how hard is it to do live plants? if I do live plants can I plant them in gravel or do I need to use sand or whatever this Fluval Plant Stratum stuff is?
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>>4307504
Gravels fine, just insert root tabs under the plants or go for plants that can attach to the decor.
Stratum is good anyway, but be warned you HAVE to rinse that shit a good 10-20 times.
But other than that, live plants are easy and do well in most type of water, though high PH and sand makes things a bit more difficult.
But if you don't really want to deal with a hornwort shedding its shit or java fern turning brown, go for fake silk plants. Less chances for the fish to injure themselves on it.
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>>4307504
Use gravel over a soil substrate and don't look back.
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>>4307505
i could have used that 'wash the shit out of it' advice before i put the sand in my tank

now i've gotta do the substrate cleaning from the tank
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>>4307513
just wait the water will settle and clear doing shit in there will only make it worse. get live plants at petco and a cheap light and heater and you should be good to go for almost any freshwater fish that fits your tank.
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>>4307538
it's already settled and it's not crystal clear the way i want

im gonna do this before all the fish come in, it's basically my last chance to ever get this done before plants and fish make it impossible

i understand every water change involves substrate cleaning but im not going to have the chance to stir it up one final time
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>>4307539
Give it a day to settle, anon. Aquariums take time.
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>>4307540
just finished.

cleaned it all up so all the bacteria from the substrate is fucked. crystal clear now
rearranged the plants so that theyre placed instead of just in the water to survive.

will take a picture soon but here's the template im using to place my plants
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>>4307432
How does the air get replaced? I see an airtube but no bubbles.
Also could cause a fishtank apocalypse if the sand weighing it down comes out enough for it to burst to the surface.
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My shrimp tank apparently has scuds. But also fish.

Am I fucked?
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Anyone have any experience with homemade fish food? I often see gelatin as an ingredient, why not egg instead? Complete protein and people probably already have egg at home anyway. Could add only whites or yolk and whites. The difference is that it will harden during the cooking process so better leave it in the shape/size you want it to be. Any downside I’m overlooking?
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>>4307647
I've seen people use egg on YouTube to feed fry.
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>>4307647
I would guess it's about stability in water, egg will dissolve quickly into tiny bits which is why you see it used as a fry food.
No actual experience though so I dunno
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>>4307673
>>4307669
cooked egg yolk breaks into a powder but if you mix it with the whites or just use the whites it becomes an omelette that is stable on water.
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Just got a new crystal glass 10g. Influence my stocking /aq/bros
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>>4307647
For marine fish I dice scallops into mush and then freeze it into cubes. One of the healthiest and most balanced things you can feed them.
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>>4307704
Think I could do this with zebra mussels for freshwater?
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>>4307591
>My shrimp tank apparently has scuds
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>>4307706
Probably. I spent a lot of time artistically searching through possible foods to find the best thing.
Just make sure it has a lot of nutrients and don't have some crazy shit that's bad if you eat too much of it.
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>>4307704
I had aquariums in the past, moved to a different country and don’t have any but plant to grow my own carrots, tomatoes and paprika and maybe spinach, thinking about blending it with garlic, egg, maybe shrimp and/or spirulina and use it to feed crustaceans and/or neon tetra. Alternate it with color enhancing fish food and live food like artemia.
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>>4307714
Zebra mussels are invasive in the river where I live. I can harvest them off rocks on the shore. They're toxic for human consumption though
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>>4307707
I've heard they will kill or out compete baby shrimp. Idk I've got a lot of fish, plants, snails, and shrimp in there, hopefully won't end up having much of an impact. The planaria and Hydra both seemed to die back or disappear without any problems.
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>>4307423
I have been looking for N. anomala for ages. Did you get them from a lfs or buy them online? Also what are other tank params? Stock, size filtration etc.
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>>4307698
Pair of apistogramma, smaller species like bitaeniata or trifaciata. Optionally some pencil fish, I like the purple but green and three stripe are also good. Nothing else is acceptable.
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My toddler loves frogs; what's the smallest size fish I can keep in a community tank with African dwarf frogs without losing them? Will adult male guppies be safe, or too small? I know the ADFs are terrible hunters but I really don't want to have to explain why the froggy is eating his fish friends.
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>>4307901
Bettas can work

Could even do a few females
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>>4307539
> im gonna do this before all the fish come in, it's basically my last chance to ever get this done before plants and fish make it impossible
Do fucking what?? You’re probably going to be a terrible fish keeper, sounds like you have no patience and you don’t even know what you’re doing. Find a way to settle down and let the tank take a few days, like do you even know what cycling is? Please don’t abuse fish anon
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Day 4 (I think) of the khulis still hiding. I can see nibbles taken out of pellets that I drop in, but have only spotted one twice since the first day. Definitely thinking of adding at least a few more, even if I don't go all the way up to 10 total.

They just have a hella good hiding spot behind the big rock in my tank.

Interestingly enough, I suddenly have a few snails with fully developed shells. I don't mind them, but they don't have the typical mystery snail shells, they're more pointed.
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>>4307901
How big is the tank? also how many frogs? They can get bigger, at my lfs has some that are so big I first thought they were african clawed frogs instead lol.
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>>4307869
Are pencil fish fry safe? I'd actually consider keeping apistos but I'd like them to breed with some other fish in the tank too.
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smallest gars? might consider getting one or two for my 40BR, could be cool.
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>>4307946
>40
>gar
lolno
If you want something you might be able to convince someone who doesn't know anything about fish is a gar you could look into halfbeaks. They're actually a livebearer that have long mouths and like to chill around top water.
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>>4307941
I've got a 30 gallon (36x12x16) with the smallest fish being male guppies. I've heard they're social so I'd probably add 4 if any.
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>>4307942
Very little is truly fry safe, but pencil fish have small mouths and will get fucked up by the apistos if they try anything with their eggs, so aren't likely to cause too much harm.
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>>4307707
He's probably fine if it's a mixed ecosystem, but there's shrimp only tank horror stories of them breeding endlessly, first eating all the algae, then all the plants, and then all the shrimp and anything else.
I'd take a punch in the face over someone dropping them in my shrimp tank.
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>>4307737
Ive seen a handful of hyrda in my shrimp tank and it's worrying me. Anything specific you did?

At least the lone female GBR is colored up and is basically back to ignoring them being dicks. Just swims off and goes about her day. Idk why it was getting her so down yesterday, but that's what happened to the other female about a week before she died, but they were much more vicious with her. There was no ignoring that.
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>>4308008
Thanks for making it clear that I will never breed these demons for live feed for my puffers.
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>>4308011
I did literally nothing, except also keep guppies and Daisy's ricefish in with them.

Actually come to think of it they disappeared when I had the prawns. Could have been the prawns. Don't recommend as a means of Hydra control. But I doubt they got all of it, it's a really resilient critter
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>>4307909
You can keep your midwit opinion to yourself

I probably know as much as you do at this point and will only improve faster than you could ever hope to

I’m sorry but that’s the reality, I’m not as low IQ as you. Really
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>>4308034
>trying to rush through setting up a fishtank and acting like itll be fine
it wont, yorue a double nigger retard but go ahead and waste all your money on fish that keep dying.
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>>4308037
If that’s what happened to you that’s on you

Again, i probably know as much or more at this point than you do
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>4308040
>didnt even know about washing substrate until TODAY
>wants to act like he knows anything
this is a bit.
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Is it possible my flow is too strong for the khulis? I have an Aqueon Aquatic Flow 500 GPH powerhead aimed at the upper-top back glass to blow the Co2 and work with the output flow of the sponge filter to make the water circulate to hopefully disperse Co2 and nutrients all around the tank. The plants kind of gently move, it doesn't seem that the flow is really intense except maybe towards the top column (it's a 29g Aqueon so it's pretty tall.)

Is it possible the powerhead is just a bit too much, and is making them less likely to come out?

I've turned it off, fed them, and did some testing of the water parameters. 77F, picture attached. My pH could be a bit too high for them, but I've seen a lot of people say that isn't too much.

My lighting is a Fluval Plant 3.0, which is usually at max settings (now through glass), maybe just the lighting is too strong for them?

Or am I just overthinking it and they're still just adjusting/desiring a bigger group?
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>>4308047
give them time, the less you have the longer they will take to feel comfortable coming out of hiding. also give them more spaces to hide and you might see them more, this is because theyll feel more comfortable knowing there ample places to noodle into if they get spooked. but getting a few more wont hurt at all.
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>>4308050
Gotcha, I have a lot of plants growing in now, and have been trimming tops and replanting them. There's a lot of places they should be able to noodle into, but there could always be more. I will look into maybe some more bushy plants, but I feel like it's getting maxed out on space pretty quickly to plant. Still some mid-ground area, so maybe there.

A close friend advised against going all the way up to 10, but maybe just to 7 would be enough to make them feel comfortable if they don't show up over time.

I just don't like that I can't see them to check on their health, but they're pretty new so if I'm not doing anything shockingly wrong for them then I suppose it's the waiting game.
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Bon appetit, fags.

I'm guessing there's nothing I can do to help a shrimp molt? Racing strip red cherry has popcorned off the substrate a couple times. Got a grip on a shell standing upright now, so fingers crossed.

>>4308023
Hm, might be time to add the pandas, and maybe even the medakas. I wanted to wait until I saw a new generation of shrimp but they might help the shrimplets more than hurt them. I know two big females dropped eggs recently, so ideally there's some in the 3 inches of java moss on the driftwood.
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>>4308052
Did your friend say why 10 is too many? The extra 3 bioload isn't going to be much but 50% more in the school very well might.

Also, as others said, it'll take time either way, but I really don't see much reason to add 2 rather than 5.
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>>4308073
Yeah, I kind of disagree with them, but they have a lot more experience. They think that in my 29 gallon they will be a bit too large when they grow up to have 10.

10 would be doubling my current 5. I don't intend to put a lot more in the tank other than pea puffers and shrimp.
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>>4308072
If the shrimp is stuck, you can grab just the molt with some tweezers or such, and the shrimp will try to dart away from you and thus the molt. It'll scare the shit outta the shrimp but if it's gonna die anyways, you've got better odds this way. I saved a shrimp once doing that, but it died next molt anyways, ymmv.

You should also be good to add both, though medaka will be safer of the two. But if you get juvenile Pandas (which is likely), by the time they're large enough to potentially hurt anything but the smallest shrimp, you'll have a couple generations of adults. If you have some thick moss, abundant floaters, and/or porous hardscape, you'll have at least a few survivors - corys aren't much of hunters, they'll just hoover up anything on the ground they fit in their mouths.
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>>4308072
Oh, yeah, and bully pressure is split amongst the two females now. Turns out Chad wants to nut and his bitch, Dot, isn't giving up the ass. Better than them ganging up on Bloop, who was getting worn down despite her resilient stoicism.
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>>4308075
>You should also be good to add both, though medaka will be safer of the two.

Really? I would have assumed the exact opposite. Granted, I'm not at all familiar with rice fish. Need to get acquainted fast if I'm gonna breed em I guess.

What kind of Cory cats get you guys goin'? I know long fin pandas will be in demand and I fucking want some anyway. Considering breeding sterbai, even though I got over wantimg them a decade ago when they seemed to be the new hotness.
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>>4308084
Medaka are smaller, with smaller mouths, is all. Either of them are pretty safe, but panda corys get to be much bigger overall fish, 1.5-2x the length and 3-4x the width, so have bigger mouths.

In terms of Cory catfish, the money fish are Gold, Orange, or Green Laser - if you wanna go full moneybags, albino gold laser (so white with gold stripe) are $80+/ea, any time I see them. Bonus points as they will school with standard Bronze corys, though verdict is still out on whether they're a different species. Personally I've got a mix of Habrosus, Venezuelanus (orange, not Schultzi/Black Ven), and Gold Lasers in my tank, but Skunk and Agassiz were the other two colors I considered.
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>>4308090
I was considering orange Venezuelans but I coudn't really tell if they weren't in demand or just not widely available. Also, not much breeding info out there, but they're just a variety of another species aren't they?

Man, I wish I could hit a fucking button to make my shrimp come out for a head count. There's 4 massive females I can keep trace of and 3 we're out for pellet and 2 went back into hiding after a few. So I know some are fucking off doing something.
All the big females dropped eggs together like yesterday or they day before, but they aren't berried up again which worried me. Aren't they supposed to go straight to the next batch?
The shrimp make me so fucking anxious. I guess because I want them to establish so badly so I can stop worrying. That and turn a potential cash sink into pretty much surefire cash flow.
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>>4308099
Christ, I hope they didn't eat the eggs because I stopped feeding for a few days because of hydra...
They would have been days away from hatching at most.
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>>4308075
Dang, went to tweezer her and she was gone. So 2 down, 10 left (I hope). Seems impossible to do a full count. I'm just happy if I can count 4 reasonably quickly.
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>>4308109
She was fucked though. Reverse ring of death with a little slit no where near big enough.
At least I've seen 6 successful molt casings.
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>>4308114
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>>4308114
>>4308114
new
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I was going in for some tubifex but saw this guy getting beat up by some hatchet fish…

Hope the little rascal will have a speedy recover, to day he’s been very sluggish



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