Do you agree or disagree?
>>4262423Did they starve the hamsters? They'll probably kill it but i doubt they'd eat the frog otherwise, that shit's disgusting
A single mouse can kill a snake. This is a stupid and unfair fight.
>>4262423i watched it. it surprised me the other hamsters don't become scared of the frog once some got eaten
>>4262423My question, is it really fine for the frog to eat rodents like this?
>>4262972frogs will eat anything that moves
This reinforces my belief that there is something wrong with people who buy pets that require live feeding.
>>4263003The physiogomy always checks out. Greasy looking dudes
>>4263003even bugs to a lizard?
>>4262552If you look closely, you can make out that the Hamster shat itself.
>>4262552Kek. Its funny but I feel bad, I know these vids are borderline animal abuse but that pussy ass hamster was probably the only smart one out of the 40.>>4263003https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhnmENlppb8This video above is by far the most fucked up live feeding, its a bunch of Tegus ripping apart hamsters like T-Rexes from Jurassic Park, its interesting to watch the brutality of nature once in a while, but seems weird that people do this regularly.
>>4263044>its interesting to watch the brutality of nature once in a while, but seems weird that people do this regularly.It's funny because they'll use the "muh nature" argument when you criticize their sadistic garbage. I'm guessing they make a lot of money for YouTube because these channels aren't going anywhere.
>>4263003I'm convinced there's something inherently very wrong with these people and they're both a social and genetic detriment to society. Not just because they're obviously sadists but because they have 0 inherent sense of family, community or culture. A normal person recognizes that a hamster or rat is a more complex creature and also much closer to us genetically than a snake or frog. Meanwhile a herpfag's brain is so deranged that they'll feed hundreds of these creatures that are practically our cousins to some dumb slimy log that isn't even in the same class as us.
>>4263063>>4263074>>4263088>Sorry for too much words but.I'm ok with people feeding with live animals. The problem comes when its done in excessive quantities and when the feeder animal is not the correct species or anything similar to what the predator eats in the wild. Also, the problem with this videos is that it puts both of the animals under unnecessary stress, just for sadistic and morbid entertainment, rather than anything useful or valuable. Its like saying "Hey unit 731 experiments got us valuable info, like, now we know what happens when you shoot a pregnant woman in the face 3 times!"Bullfrogs don't eat hamsters in the wild and its never likely that they would be surrounded by 40 of them. The frog was likely under stress the entire time, the frog knew that if all of those hamsters were smart, they could gang up on him and fuck him up. It clearly did not need to eat multiple hamsters, they don't eat that many prey in nature unless they are massively lucky, those Hamsters are just being killed for nothing. Also Hamsters are not social animals, they like to be alone like an introverted weeb, I can imagine this must be living hell for them, not counting the doomguy frog next to them. The asshole who runs the channel likely breeds his own Hamsters for this purpose, the worst part is that he likely keeps them in terrible conditions, because I highly doubt they have their own space.
>>4263041Less fucked up, but anyone who feeds live vertebrates to their pet is fucked in the head.
>>4263099sob invertebrates are fine?bit spinist of you
>>4263094Personally I don't think anything that requires live feeding should be kept by anyone who doesn't own a public zoo. I don't think it should be banned, but I will go out of my way to avoid such ""people"" and recommend others do too.
>>4263120Most animals that are live fed can be fed frozen and thawed food anyways. I can't think of any species that'd need exclusively live food, even a praying mantis will eat non-live stuff
>>4263088These videos are not that far from the shit groups like Peta spread around but are you aware how many mice/rats the city you live in kills? And worse, these animals are smart so you can’t just use some quick painless killing method, if it kills fast they eventually notice and stop falling for it. They need to use slow killing methods so the animal get sick and die too slowly for them to realize what caused it. All this is necessary to avoid diseases from spreading. There is an alternative that makes them infertile but not every place adopted that.
>>4263132>other people do bad thing to survive so me do bad thing for fun is ok Retard.
>>4263160Is it really bad? Another human is closer to you than any rat. Does killing a human to survive is bad? Pigs are pretty intelligent too. Why eat pigs if we could eat chicken instead? Or we could go on a plant and bugs diet since mammals and birds are smart as well. We don’t need to eat them to survive, we do for pleasure.
>>4263203This is an English language website. Perhaps somewhere else is more your speed.
>>4262423Literally the only thing that makes live feeding not ok is filming it - for your own amusement or that of othersAs soon as the act is recorded it becomes perverse
>>4263321Filming it is a necessary evil, the frog wouldve refused to it had a camera not been filming it
>>4263003This. It's one thing in nature when a mouse has a fair chance to outrun a snake. Find a hole in the ground or something. When it's fed to a snake in a cage it's kinda fucked up. Additionally there is a difference between feeders and hamsters. Feeding pets to other pets is fucked up. The people who don't understand the difference are fucked up people
>>4263129do spiders eat dead stuff?
>youtube home filled with nothing but animal fatal accidents, phone harassing, torture videos and voreI'll have to delete both Google and Youtube History once again
I hope they get put in a park with a mega bear, with no weapons, food, water or help. It’s the same thing. I genuinely hope all defenceless animals get justice. Scumbags.
>>4263600Yes, they’re not that picky.
>>4263600If a praying mantis can eat dead stuff then a spider will absolutely.There's literally no animal that absolutely requires to eat live stuff and cannot be trained to eat dead stuff, unless it's wild caught and even then it's a retarded move to keep a wild caught animal.
OP guy is going to fucking murder some chick and feed her to a python at some point, guy is a wackohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IHi62ZRE0g
>>4263660Besides the creepy looking mask, I noticed this last night as well, isn't this training the snakes to bite people in the face? Also there is something off about those toys, who is this anime thing? Is it relevant to eating shit? Any weeb here that can confirm?
>>4263660The light hearted music choice reminds me of thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ruw9fsh3PNY&
>>4263662I just did some research. The character is called Tsuyu and has frog superpowers.
>>4263088>>4263120>>4263644>armchair psychologists pretending all herp owners jerk off to their pets eating other animals>literal retard tier "mammal better than reptile so reptile eating mammal bad" You faggots are so retarded. You have a good point about these chink channels abusing animals and then completely ruin it by attacking regular pet owners who don't do anything wrong.There's a difference between live feeding mice and live feeding robot-tier insects like crickets. It's not black and white you autists.
>>4263312Not an argument. We eat meat for pleasure, we don’t need to eat it for survival, we could live on a diet of plants and bugs and it would be even better for the planet than vegan diet (and animals get killed to produce vegan food anyway)
>>4263702It was not even intended to be an argument. Fuck off.
>>4262423There is showing a standard live feeding to show how it work and then you have this stuff which is borderline animal abuse so sadist get their jollies watching animals kill each other.
>>4263724Pretty incredible how little fucks youtube jannies seem to give about that kind of content
>>4263088this nigga feels the kinship of the aryan volk with a fuckin' gerbil
>>4263744You’re fooling yourself if you don’t think most people empathize more with mammals than they do with reptiles and amphibians.
>>4263120I have to feed my weasels, they can't just get all the nutrients they need out of pellet food. Yes, I could avoid it and shorten their lifespan by about two years, but if it means I get to spend more time with my adorable fuzzy noodles feeding them rabbits and rats once in a while isn't bad.
People who own animals that require live feed are huge faggots and psychopaths, except for insect owners,i couldn't give a shit about insects fucking up other insects, but if you feed your spider or scorpion or fucking whatever a live mouse or something your a crazy attention seeking faggot too
>>4262552Are frogs cold blooded? They barely move compared to the hamsters.
>>4263792big cope by very obvious rodent fag. Most of the live eaters of rodents are snakes.
>>4263721So you admit you have no argument at all and just resort to cussing like an ill behaved kid.
>>4263836I don’t see the point in attempting to argue with someone who is trying to divert the topic to “but what farming animals for food?” in a bizarre false equivalence. Again, fuck off.
>>4262423Nice, I wasn't down on TW3 at release, but seeing in-game footage of this Slann wrecking these Skaven really changes my mind. They even got the sync kills to work.
>>4263884You think it is bad to live feed but don’t want to touch on other uses of mammals for human pleasure. I have no problem with animals for meat or living feed even if I never had any pet that required living mammals or birds.
>>4263003Live feeds are necessary for people who are starting with snakes.
>>4262423these videos are obviously related to people who are turned up by vore, me as a vore lover myself know it
>>4263947People that keep snakes are weird and I'm tired of pretending they aren't.
everyone criticizing this better be vegan
>>4262506How do hamsters survive for so long as a species?
>>4264048Not all animals have the same value. Not all ways you kill animals are equally permissible. Source: god. If you’re a vegan but not hindu, jain, or buddhist i dont want to hear your arbitrary nonsense.
>>4263907I dont eat a cow live. I don't have to wrestle with a cow and hurt myself when going and eating an already dead cow is easier and less harmful to me.Do you get it yet you fucking tard.
>>4263660What's the music that plays during this guy's videos?
>>4264202>Source: it's a convenient way for me to justify my habits
>>4264281Beethoven - Symphony No. 5
>>4264203Not the point. You eat cow because it is tasty not because you need it to live. You can get all you need from other sources of food without requiring to eat a mammal. “practically our cousins” according to >>4263088Eating a cow is dove for pleasure, not survival unless you are one of those African tribes who live on their milk and blood. As modern humans in a civilized society we have a wide range of options for nutrition and could get all our nutritional need without having to resort to eating “our cousins”. Personally I think calling them “our cousins” just because they are mammals pretty dumb. Maybe this could be applied to apes but some apes will kill and eat other apes as a normal part of their diet.
>>4264330I'll eat bugs if they actually start mass producing them on the level of beef.
>>4264343You could raise bugs like black soldier fly on food waste. This way not only you will be producing food but also reducing waste and generating fertilizer that could be used to grow tomatoes or some other plant. So you would be reducing pollution due to waste, reduce pollution associated with food production and not killing any mammal. I don’t care about the last one but the first two makes this way better from an environmental point of view than vegetarian or vegan. Vegan might cause a lower impact than beef but bugs can have a negative impact instead of lower impact. Personally I think people are still not ready to the idea of eating bugs but they could be used for animal feed and as production scales start being incorporated in processed foods and suplements.
>>4264176Well, usually they aren't trapped in a box with a larger predator so that helps a lot.
>>4264324>Source: its a convenient way to make my feelings seem more legitimate and less disorderedWithout a god above you all morals are unprovable opinions. My god, the true god who created the universe including you, plainly laid out the nature of animals. There are a few he made to be eaten by humans and many he did not, and they may only be killed a certain way for any purpose. And your belief is what? You think, but can not prove, that a random ass animal is secretly a person, and we should care because we just should and it makes you feel good to care? Says which god? You did not create an entire universe. If you make such statements about life you are delusional and talking out your ass. You do not know the nature of anything’s soul or what morals are or why they matter, because you are the created, not the creator, and these things exist on the creator’s terms, and only because he wills them to. Without god you have no morals, only irrelevant opinions. And if you deny god that is an unforgivable sin. You will go to hell no matter what. >>4264330We eat cows because they are highly nutritious, rich in calories, and eat grass, which we can’t. Bugs are rich in protein but not calories, so they are not a suitable replacement. Where humans fucked up is eating so much cow they have to be fed corn. Anyways if you read the bible gid specifically tells you to eat bugs and which bugs to eat. Locusts.
>>4262423this is not bussin
>>4264363Modern humans have access to excess of calories, obesity is a bigger problem than starvation. Eating cow for survival made sense for old time humans like the tribe mentioned but modern humans don’t need that, it is a purely luxury item.
>>4264363Whatever you mutilated kikedick simpleton. If you need a sky fairy to dictate how to be altruistic you're inherently admitting you're a selfish fake faggot.
>>4264363>Without a god above you all morals are unprovable opinions.With a god above you all morals are still unprovable opinions. Religious people can't successfully communicate with god so even if there's one, they just create their own morals and pretend god agrees. If there's a god he probably doesn't give a shit and sees all of this as an ant farm that he can passively watch while beating his meat.
>>4264377You NEED nutrients that are only found in animals flesh. All vegans are malnourished and you CAN NOT raise a child as a vegan without permanently damaging them in some way. The bioavailability of industrial supplements is poor. Furthermore you will die from a supply chain breakdown, or just stop being vegan lol lmaoWhat you do not NEED is a burger or two every day. God made cattle to be used on land that was not suitable for crops and so that inedible parts of crops could sustain us, and he made us to need meat, so that we could survive better. >>4264378Why would I be altruistic to a fucking object? The beasts have no souls and no higher mind. They are as plants, but they move and make noise more frequently. Vegans just make shit up because disney movies fucked up their young brains and taught them to assume all animals were secretly animal shaped people. Once again if you are not hindu, jain, or buddhist I do not consider veganism a legitimate moral stance. You are an egoist and animals dying bothers you, that is it, you have no power over right and wrong and it does not exist to you in any form higher than personal opinion. You are intellectually dishonest and self centered, making up morals to cater to your feelings rather than seeking truth because you fear the truth will inconvenience you even if it also agrees with you.
>>4264384God’s miracles are proof that he exists. Atheists scream fake, but cant prove fake, and at the end of the day they are just picking the parts of religion they personally like and ignoring the rest because they are selfish and childish and still want to speak with the authority of a priest and declare right and wrong without having the slightest clue about anything spiritual or any real reason anything is right or wrong. We need to go vegan to have more people, for instance? If you are not christian you do not have a reason to have more people. God did not tell you to, and reproduction is not sacred. You are now in the land of darwin and if having less people improves the fitness of the species at its current trophic level you will do that or die out eventually correct?
>>4262423>Do you agree or disagree?I agree that Asians and Pajeets are soulless bug people that value no life, not even that of their own kind. And i agree that jewtube is downright satanic for allowing all that frog/animal torture and shit like the neon painted dead pet fish reanimated via stopmotion but censors light nudity or bad words. Fuck modern society.
>>4264390You don’t need beef. Studies found that beef eaters and vegans have different problems but similar mortality. Fish eaters are the ones who lived longer. Anyway I was never advocating veganism, if you red the other posts you would see that plants + insects are environmentally superior to vegan. Read the thread instead of just preaching your religion on unrelated threads
>>4264397You do need beef. Just not much. If you read the bible there is a day you can not even eat it, and the sin of gluttony forbids eating unhealthy because you find some foods more pleasurable. Beef exists for a reason, as a way to convert grass to a calorie and nutrient dense meal that can feed a whole village with one slaughter. Bugs are not an alternative, they are a supplement to a complete diet and agricultural system as designed by god himself.
>>4264392God never told you anything, that's just your schizophrenia speaking. Why do you think so many people have conflicting ideas about god?>they are just picking the parts of religion they personally like and ignoring the restHeh, ironic, that's exactly what religious people do
>>4264399Lots of people live healthy and longer without ever eating beef or rarely eating beef.
>>4264403Those people eat other meats. Beef is among those you can eat and a cow becomes a lot of high calorie meat given comparatively little useless chaff. It has its place. Ill health from its overconsumption is your payment for gluttony. Such a large animal is to be shared with many. >>4264400And you’re an intellectually dishonest egoist that’s too insecure to admit your opinions are arbitrary.
>>4264408>And you’re an intellectually dishonest egoist that’s too insecure to admit your opinions are arbitrary.my opinions are arbitrarynow what, retard
>>4264412Great, now no one has a reason to care about them.
>>4264414Neither do I have a reason to care about your opinions. If god really gave a shit, why would he specifically inform you and not me?
>>4264435He did inform you. You refused to listen. There are copies of the bible everywhere and you are rarely more than a mile from a church. Every fundamental moral you hold was taught to you by a christian and every great civilization is under god. Nearly every flag in europe is a cross. If you still disagree go worship thor and fuck men and animals, that is actually a lesser sin than denying god exists, because you can still be forgiven for mistaking a demon for god, but not for denying anything like him could ever be real.
>>4264445>There are copies of the bible everywhere and you are rarely more than a mile from a churchThese are manmade and even christians have differing beliefs among themselves. If you're born in the wrong country there isn't a chance you become a christian. God needs to do a better job.Hey god, please give me a sign, please let it stand out in a way that can't be mistaken for a prank or a mass delusion
>>4264408They eat fish, that bible doesn’t consider meat.
>>4263044For me it's that one vid of the Monitor lizard beating the rat against the wall over and over again, reptiles are just, for lack of a better word, cold blooded when it comes to killing eating lol. And rodents are pest animals, these fags who are saying, "muh poor fluffy boy" clearly never had these things infest their home.
I want a 12 years old wife as God intended.
>>4264471Stop jerking off.
>>4264485thank you based god
>>4264483>these fags who are saying, "muh poor fluffy boy" clearly never had these things infest their homeCorrect, I've never had a hamster infestation. I've had mice however. I now own a cat who tortures and kills them, I'm not too comfortable with that either.