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how did they evolve to look like stones?
how would they know what stones look like?
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>>4261658
because the ones that look like rocks don't get eaten
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By random chance you fucking troglodyte. The lithop ancestor that looked more like a stone had more of a chance of mating and it's offspring surviving, a feeling you will never experience.
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>>4261658
their name means "Stone Eyes," so they are eyes that look at stones. That's all they do. Look at stones and then try to evolve to look just like them.
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>>4261664
they cute
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>>4261658
>it's another retard who thinks that evolution is determined by will or knowledge
You don't need to know a thing to bring your species to evolve, moron. All you have to do is create viable and successful offspring. Something you will never do.
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>>4261662
>mating and it's offspring surviving, a feeling you will never experience.
>>4261674
>create viable and successful offspring. Something you will never do.
fecundity is inversely corelated with IQ
as any intelligent person knows.
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>>4261662
Not really random...
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>>4261658
idk but these lil guys rock!!!
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>>4261674
just keep creating inbred offspring, got it. why are people so ugly? nevermind.
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>>4261692
>haha I will never mate and that’s why I am super smart actually (200iq to be exact), this facebooktrufacts page told me so. I’m also the 1% of people who could solve that puzzle!
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>>4261752
Memetic reproduction is more rational for humans. Nobody knows who the cunt was that your great great great dad raped, but Billions know and live by the memes of childless philosophers
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>>4261664
c:
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The more you study life, the more you realize that this grand design must have a designer
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>>4261763
Lol what a current citation

"I love to fuck your mom despite her smell" Otto von Bismarck
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>>4261763
t. literally does not understand the concept of evolution even in its most basic, demonstrable form
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>>4261763
A ton of physicists do not believe in the christian god and hold beliefs more in line with the ancient vedic faith or modern hinduism.

Luckily for most atheists, they don’t really reject the possibility of a god, they reject abrahamic faiths being anywhere near correct, and yet subconsciously follow them so they think that’s the only god to reject. Once you educate an atheist (college degree, not wikipedia) they start leaning towards vedic or buddhist influenced deism or become one of those CINOs that reinterpret the bible at will and arbitrarily decide the entire old testament was invalidated.
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I think it is most important to believe in yourself :] go get'em, tiger
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>>4261774
heisenberg also saw weimar and believed that if humanity didnt have religion it wouldn’t be able to maintain anything resembling a system of ethics, so he was inclined to shill a little.

now matter how far you deviate you have to have an unassailable god to cite or else all morals are mere opinions and you regress to the level of a monkey that beats the shit out of other monkeys because they ooked at the wrong time
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>>4261763
>going all the way back to 1932 to find a nobel prize winner who agrees with your bullshit
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>>4261692
IQ is meaningless when you're unhappy and alone
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>>4261816
You’re never unhappy or alone when you have a dog
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>>4261821
Alinity would know
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>>4261658
for a moment I thought the tick jar thread had been resurrected. palpable relief
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>>4261658
"They" didn't do anything. Evolution isn't a process like that. There was no active participation here.

The ones that looked like stones are the ones that weren't killed. That's all.
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>>4261693
evolution is random, selection isn't
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>>4261857
Evolution is intelligent design.
>but
It is.
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>>4261658
nice rock collection nerd

\tg\-------------------------->
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>>4261752
>>4261816
>not knowing r/K selection
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>>4261774
>college degree
>education
Bruh
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>>4261950
t. GPA dropped like a rock when he had to take non-STEM courses
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>>4261863
It's not.
>but
It's not.
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>>4261965
Its not even that my 201 astronomy teacher spent the whole intro weeks talking about how christians in alexandria burned the library, cut up the first scientists with broken roof tiles (he went into details), destroyed sphinx and pyramids, suppressed "math" and how arabs are amazing and we only have science because of them. He only stopped because I posted a letter on the whiteboard with some quotes from the koran.

Post 1999 universities are absolute junk, anyone coming out of them is almost guaranteed to be dumber than a person who spent 4 years reading random books they found interesting.
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>>4261971
>hurr evolution is random
Evolution clearly happens due to selection idiot
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>>4261990
I think the other guy was saying that the mutations occur randomly and the beneficial ones get selected for because shit ones tend to fucking die faster or at least not get as much nookie, anon. Which is how it works.
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>>4261990
>>4262002
I think the original anon was saying the plant looks like a rock due to random evolution, which other anons took umbrage with because the selection process isn't really random

but those anons are tiny brains.

they fail to realize that the plants could just as well have been selected to look like snakes or spiders or particularly nasty poop, so the selection to mimic rocks is also a random occurrence out of the nearly limitless possibilities.

so yeah
all you fuckers are dumb.
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>>4261777
Don't let your dreams be dreams, evolve into a rock TODAY
Also, nice trips
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>>4262002
>>4262004
Actually its due to God. God is doing the selecting.
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>>4262231
I didn’t know odin had a biology hobby
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>>4261763
and then logically you have to ask who or what designed god, and theistic retards immediately go "god is the uncaused cause that wasn't designed" so you can happily say well then good design doesn't need a designer, QED
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>>4262231
evolution was specifically described to explain how life got here without god.

taking a godless explanation and shoving some unnecessary god into it is about as retarded as a person can get and still survive without constant supervision.
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>>4262273
>>4262273
>evolution was specifically described to explain how life got here without god.
No it fucking wasnt, evolution is based on observation it wasnt invented to fulfill some atheist dogma. You arent even a scientist.

>taking a godless explanation
Its not a Godless explanation, its literally a "how did He do it" since we already know "who did it".
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>>4262278
>No it fucking wasnt, evolution is based on observation it wasnt invented to fulfill some atheist dogma.
no it's not

nobody had observed evolution in action and there was no need to explain anything since "God did it" was the standard answer of the time.

you're a literal retard. Please go be stupid somewhere else.
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Certain slime mould can solve mazes; this would indicate consciousness on the single cellular level.
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>>4262281
Wow you know nothing about God or science, yrt feel strongly about both. Genuine dunning kruger
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>>4262289
Science in the US is funded by tax dollars

We rely on retards like you to give us money. So we encourage you to say stupid stuff like, "evolution is how god created life."

of course it's not true but if it keeps you from lobbying congress to get biology funding cut off then we accept that. It's the cost of having idiots in charge of paying the geniuses to do work they don't understand or appreciate.
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>>4262289
if you want the actual truth realize that 98% of PhD biologists in the US are atheists.

this is a simple fact, and you can check it out if you like and have someone to help you search the internet. There is no god is science, there's definitely no god in evolution.
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>>4262281
Which god? Certainly not the one who literally says that all human women descend from a rib, or who can’t make up his mind about shrimp, or whether or not jesus or mohammed was his prophet or if he’s accurately represented in the bible at all and isnt a half naked cow faced man with a half naked cow faced wife named ashera.

I’m going to go with evolution on this one.
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>>4262293
lol retard doesnt understand religion, science or how government works

>>4262294
I would doubt such a made up figure, except that a huge number of PhD biologist in US are diversity hires who think race doesnt exist and sex is optional. These people are useless, so that number is possible.

God is the foundation of science, especially biology. If sciences were left fully to atheists, they would invent their own gods like luke skywalker, feminism, social justice, wokeism, heretical false gods that are part of Satan, and would destroy science.... just as they are doing at the moment.
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>>4262298
>hurr i dont comprehend poetic language
Ok smoothbrain

I dont mind, your kind will self remove from the gene pool
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>>4262313
>its poetic
So gay is supposedly not okay because thou shalt not lay with a man as you would lay with a woman. Therefore, if you say yes homo and appreciate how manly it is, it’s not a sin.

Don’t argue you just dont understand the deeper meaning. God put the prostate there for a reason but he wanted us to genuinely appreciate how manly gay sex is, not engage in this femboy/tranny/trap faggotry.

And by by beast, exodus 22:19 meant livestock and savage ani als. More noble creatures were not specified so god endorses dolphin marriage and giving them personhood, but does not want us to have anything to do with creatures such as your mother. If you do not take the bible literally it is arbitrary nonsense. If you say “well back then most people meant…” you admit that it is a historical human book like the US constitution and not the eternal word of god. And what of islam? They are rather confident that everything mohamed said was correct.

Evolution is much more reliable, correct, consistent, and does not explicitly approve manly gay sex.
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>>4262329
modernchristianity is mostly based on liberal translations to prevent people from thinking things like that. if a verse is vague and the word of god might not actually agree with what the human church has been doing they simply change a few words. but the human church was made by germanics that threw fags in rivers and italics that grew tired of gay pedophilia as a social institution, even though jesus would have totally been cool with it if two manly adult men wanted to have manly sex.
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>>4261763
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traumatic_insemination
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If evolution is real did human walk around with their balls smacking together all the time? and then it took millions of years for one to drop lower?

Idk man looks like a genius design
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>>4261748
>Just keep creating inbred offspring
Inbreeding leads to the offspring being unable to reproduce or survive if there is enough of it.
>Why are people so ugly
We aren't. People with micro/macrocephaly or other disfiguring genetic conditions don't breed in most cases. The average person is able to procreate in their lifetime if they want to.
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>>4262502
No, that could have even evolved in one of our close ancestors. The first human as we know it could have just already had that trait. It works like anything else in evolution. The organism in question who had a ball hanging lower experienced less testicular issues and successfully bred that trait into future generations.
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>>4261662
Nobody eats succulents
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>>4262235
You can believe in God with science retards, it's a "law" even
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>>4262634
>Nobody eats succulents
doesn't mean nobody ever did
>You can believe in God with science retards,
yes, but since science is a method of explaining things WITHOUT god, you'll find most scientists don't bother believing in god until 5 minutes before they're about to die.
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>>4262677
succulents are edible. Mushrooms are like 98% water
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Why is it always god or no god with you fags? There are a million religions some much older and less politically molested than anything that venerates yahweh/allah. Did the jews break your brains by calling their god “god” or something? This stuff belongs on /x/ and /his/. The intersection of religion and quantum physics has nothing to do with animals unless its neils bohr and his secret plan to reincarnate as an orca to become smarter.
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>>4262692
Nooo you can't just say other religions exist that are equally as valid which is to say they are all verifiably copes for man discovering he will die and also a consequence of man's ability to recontextualize information
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>>4262329
Why are you talking about homos this is a rock cactus thread.

Fucking leftists.
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>>4262677
>science is a method of explaining things WITHOUT god
That is not what science is you dumb fucking redditor.

>all muh scientists are atheists!
I doubt atheism breaches 5% of total scientists, and I mean:
1. Biology
2. Chemistry
3. Physics
4. Mathematics
5. Medicine
6. Engineering
If you count social scientists you are a troll.

I doubt you have even one member of an academy in your circle of friends if you think something so retarded. ESPECIALLY biologists who are all mostly hardcore religious people.
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>>4262689
>succulents are edible.
not relevant to the conversation

for a plant to evolve the appearance of a rock to avoid being eaten it must be eaten by something large enough to see it as just another rock.

whether these plants are currently eaten by something large enough to see them as just another rock is also irrelevant. It only needed to happen sometime in the past.
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>>4262862
>That is not what science is you dumb fucking redditor.
how often have scientists suggested GOD DID IT?

out of the billions of papers written in the last couple hundred years, how many suggest god as the cause? That's not even allowed in science. The main idea is that GOD DIDN'T DO IT.
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>>4262862
>ESPECIALLY biologists who are all mostly hardcore religious people.
Your youth pastor lied to you

biologists are almost never religious. Partly because we wonder how god would evolve, but mostly because we understand consciousness is a process of life and living processes aren't spirits. Also because we've spent our lives explaining how life formed without any stupid gods helping. Also also because we understand why pathetic and insecure cowards need to believe in a god so they don't kill themselves.
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>>4262867
>how often have scientists suggested GOD DID IT?
See this is your problem, you lack the IQ or the education to understand the difference between the physical and the metaphysical. You conflate the two and then make insipid statements like "well duh multi winged angel sphere with eyes on the wingtips wasnt aerodynamic due to NACA findings" like a utter smoothbrain. And you are such a NARCISSIST that you refuse to recognize how stupid you are being, it MUST be everyone else.

Even if you assume the two are the same, God is a prime mover or the creator of the rules for moving or the rules for moving themselves, even inbred Muslims rarely believe He is actually micromanaging every event. In most religions God (or pagan gods) arent even involved in most events, in norse mythology Odin did like one or two things that impacted mortals at most.

>>4262870
I have never met a biologist who wasnt at least a deist

>we
lol literally "we wuzzing" an entire academic field for internet updoots on a website with no updoots.... and then proceeding to say dumb shit like "how did God evolve".

I dont presume to speak for others but I believe God to be the fundamental structure of the universe which guides, among other things, formation of stars and planets, basic chemistry, and evolution. God can be described mathematically, and actually is as real as abstract mathemathical concepts. Various religons are just a poetic way to describe this, because we didnt have the math then (and still dont).
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>>4262962
>https://evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1936-6434-6-33#:~:text=Previous%20research%20has%20also%20shown,life%20after%20death%20than%20the

scientists are like 98% atheists

what you believe about scientists and god is almost pure bullshit.
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>>4262962
>Previous research has also shown that biologists and psychologists are the most atheistic of scientists (for example, Gross and Simmons 2009) and we were therefore not overly surprised to find that in our sample the biological scientists were more atheistic with regard to a belief in God and life after death than the physical scientists.

the idea that scientists believe in god is a myth preachers tell their congregations to make god seem like a respectable belief. It's not.
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>>4262962
>this difference is far more evident among distinguished scientists: Larson and Witham (1998) found that 92% of the members of the National Academy of Sciences reject a belief in God or higher power.
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does anyone really think people are going to become religious because labcoat man is religious
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>>4262999
>>4263001
>>4263002
>doesnt even know how to read a poll
Out of 1600 members, 1000 were asked, and 248 replied. In other words you have proven 15% of the british academy of sciences members claim to hold some atheistic or agnostic views, not that they actually do, just that they claim openly to hold this popular opinion. While over 1352 others are too afraid of assaults to speak up about their faith. 15%! And this is with a country that is half atheist, which suggests that scientists tend to be more religious than common midwits such as yourself.
This is what I say about you having a low IQ, if you cant even read a basic poll, how can you read a scientific article much less write one?

Also the methodology.... is almost worse than the "is global warming real" poll finding 99% agree because they rejected every scientist that didnt publish on the topic of global warming.
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>>4263020
>>doesnt even know how to read a poll
>everyone who didn't respond must secretly agree with me!
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>>4263016
>does anyone really think people are going to become religious because labcoat man is religious
no

I was raised a creationist, it's one of the reasons I got interested in evolution science and ultimately studied zoology.

what they think is that their beliefs are somehow compatible with science and thus elevated to an acceptable social stature by scientists sharing them. Of course scientists don't actually share them, but they grasp at the few that do and quote them over and over as some sort of evidence that they're not irrational and stupid.
>>4263032
racism is also extraordinarily low among scientists.

whether they're wrong or right doesn't matter. When you say you believe in god or you're a racist scientists automatically ignore you. Because these are signs you hate science and don't understand it.
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>>4263016
>>4263035
or to put that in a different light:

god people desperately want scientists to agree with them, or at the very least admit they're not completely crazy.

the problem is scientists do actually think they're crazy
but we need them to support our work with their tax dollars so we mostly put up with them.
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>>4261664
>doge flower
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>>4263035
>racism is also extraordinarily low among scientists.
You mean "statements that could lose me my grants" yes Im aware speech control is out of control in the academia.

And this idiot wants me to believe hes a biologist, he is stigmatizing taxonomy and even peoples inner beliefs about God. Fucking SJW retard holding science back.
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>>4262298
20 IQ post
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>>4263216
>acceptable ranges
He said it himself. People want to be accepted. Even if they don't, most people have empathy.
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>>4263216
a gay, mouthy cannibal... Richard Dawkins worst nightmare.
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>>4263258
>muh most people are moral
Most europeans are after 2000 years of the Church executing every immoral person and impoverishing their family lines.

Ask me how I know youve never been outside your gated community.
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>>4263279
>2000 y-years of eugenics made europe moral
and yet 120 years ago belgiums were eating the congolese. huh maybe crediting/blaming the catholics for domesticating whites is more than a little ahistoric
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>>4263279
>the Church executing
Huh I thought the bible said thou shalt not kill
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>>4263313
It is not murder to kill a heretic, any more than it is murder to kill an animal, or cut down a stalk of grain

>>4263282
Is this some Kang bullshit? lol of course /an/ has literal monkeys on board
My melanated friend, even if this happened (and it sounds like made up bullshit) it is not an accepted cultural practice, it is in fact quite frowned upon and rare

Unlike the rest of Africa, India and China where it is accepted and routinely practiced
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>>4263282
>belgiums were eating the congolese
When in Rome....
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>>4263216
More gods, more morals. We should all be hindu my sirs.
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>>4263323
Then it is not murder to kill a christian, inshallah.
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>>4263332
>>4263323
IIE! DEATH TO ALL NON SHINTO PIGGU DA ZEEEEE

Common religion is the primitive tribalistic precursor to more correct moral philosophy and gnosticism.
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>>4263339
Christian religion is clearly the most evolved religion though, they have abstracted the concept of morality out of mythology the most. Also they are the only ones who are tolerant of other religions and even atheism, no other religion tolerates that shit.
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>>4263381
CINOs. They interpret and alter the bible to suit their desires. The true faith is as violent and intolerant as islam and jesus did not invalidate any of the OT. He only added reasonable exceptions. Most of it was canonized 300+ years later and the apostles are only a real source according to the church that likely used them as a vehicle for its own ends. And so you get pagans like the catholics and hyper tolerance.
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>>4261934
jesus christ anon they're minerals
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>>4263405
>The true faith is as violent and intolerant as islam
Whoa, you went too far there. Thats your opinion to have, but it definitely isnt part of observable reality. Name one Christian country that routinely throws gays off roofs or publicly beheads with a sword everyone who commits adultery.

What a nonsensical lie.
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>>4263596
Any country that actually follows the word of god. If you are saver by christ you are absolved of sin. Now, you can cast the first stone. If you allow gays to exist as a christian you’re going into the lake of fire most likely.

Matthew 5:17 (“Do not think that I have come to abolish Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.”)

Or perhaps you just follow the interpretation of christianity that bests aligns with what you want your pagan germanic morals to be and secretly gave odin a holiday.
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>>4263323
you're one of those people who cannot tell his ass from his elbow but still just spouts off about your head cannon to anyone in earshot, right?
autistic is what we used to call you but now I think it's neurologically diverse or something
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>>4261781
Literally one of the founders of physics, still praised and without equal you absolute fucking retard holy shit, imagine not knowing Heisenberg.
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>>4263598
I was expecting a country name. Do you have one?
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>>4261765
someone post the basedjack I don't hsve one saved



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