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Are rats friends?
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Yes.
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No.
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Maybe.
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>>3852928
>skaven
>friends
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>>3852928
Ask Walt.
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depends on which side YOU are on.
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>>3852928
I would be very cheesed if they were.
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>>3852955
rats are cool-cool
t. fellow manthing
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>>3852928
Of course
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>>3853190
what's his endgoal?
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>>3853200
Sewer domination
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>>3852928
my 2 are the only friends i have
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I loved my rats and they loved me. RIP Mary and Jupiter.
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>>3852928
Toys for my cat. He doesn't get a rat very often but when he does he can't be any happier.
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>>3852928
Certainly. Captive ones at least. Rats that you buy from a breeder or a feeder from a pet store tend to be very nice creatures. However, wild rats are almost a different animal by how different the act. I have experience with pet rats and they’re near perfect pets. The only downside to pet rats is their lifespan being under 3 years. Captive rats? Great. Wild rats? Fuck those.
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>>3852928
Yes when we're in control of them, no when they're out of control.
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>>3852928
Im inclined to suspect of jews and creatures resembling them, but these are an exception, they're bro tier curious little creats.
t. pol tard
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>>3852928
Yes.
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How are you doing, fellow mice?
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>>3852928
rats look really cool but i don't think i'd ever want to own one. it would be weird
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>>3854732
Wild rats are devastating pests and an active threat to human wellbeing, which is a shame, but that's how it is.
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>>3855308
> this pic...
> I_wonder_who_is_behind_this_post.png
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>>3855410
you WILL buy some rats
you WILL love them
you WILL be happy

Any questions?
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>>3855410
>own one
indeed
they need friends, never keep a rat alone
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>>3855466
I wanna have rats but they live too little and I can't deal with that, how do I make super rats that live at least 15-20 years?
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>>3855557
The brightest stars burn only twice as long
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>>3855627
*as short ;(
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>>3855627
So he should make them dumber. It's the perfect plan!
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>>3855704
He can't improve perfection, that was my point
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Post rats
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Not rats but close.
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>>3856142
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>>3852954
I don't know
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>>3852928
Would it be rat abuse if I bought two rats and named them Rat 1 and Rat B?
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>>3852928
Friends with benefits
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>>3856243
Name them Rat One and Rat Three.
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YES. LISTEN TO US, THE MANY-AS-ONE.
TEST NOT OUR PATIENCE.
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Posting some of my dopes
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>>3854676
:(
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Panda rats.
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How are rats as a pet?
Tempted to get one as a low maintenance furry friend I won't need to keep long term. But split between it and a cat. I'd like a dog but i just can't take care of it with work and all.
But I still want something aa friendly as a dog which is why I'm leaning more toward cat than rat. But I've heard rats can be pretty sweet too.
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>>3856691
Rats are not low maintenance. You need more than one, quite a large cage and frequent cleaning, because they will start stinking up the place quickly if you postpone cleaning too much.
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>>3856691
Rats are fairly clean in that they clean themselves, don't buy the reddit meme that they don't stink, they don't sweep their cages or anything. They're incredibly intelligent and can be taught tricks and the like. They are social animals, and if you raise them right, will love you unconditionally. Make sure you get at least two, though. People tell you not to get feeders but because of how shitty the pet industry is, they tend to have stronger genes since pet stores will simply let the weaker ones die, and I personally prefer feeders because it's shitty knowing they live terrible lives just to be fed to biological robots.
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>>3856692
Low maintenance as in I don't need to take it outside to piss every 6 hours and walks every day.
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>>3856694
You should probably let them out of their cage for at least a half and hour or so everyday.
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>>3856694
>>3856699
I have 6 and I try to ensure that all of them get one-on-one time with me for at least an hour a day, even if it's just sitting on my shoulder and getting pet while I do other things. Their cage, if you get an appropriate one should be fine every other part of the day if it has other rats in it and lots of climbing toys, bird wooden block stuff hanging, ropes, foraging toys, etc.
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>>3856459
he grumpy
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>>3853126
Quick, what's your opinion on explosives?
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I got a new rat and found that he sneezes constantly and is generally lethargic. Thanks to retards feeding firecrackers to their dogs yesterday, all my local vets are backed up until late next week. I can't wait that long.
What antibiotic should I consider for him? Would baytril be too harsh?
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>>3857318
I am in a similar situation, seconding this
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I like rats
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>>3857326
Check your bedding. I was using carefresh recycled paper bedding as was suggested online but it still seems to be causing the issue for mine. Half an hour away from the bedding and he hasn't sneezed since.
I also read online that if you're willing to do the extra cleaning, a layer of fleece under the bedding can reduce dust buildup.
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>>3857318
In my experience, Baytril is a good first choice. >>3857385 is right, though, make sure to rule out the bedding. I'd recommend corncob, but it might be a bitch to find
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>>3856693
the rats themselves don't stink. the cage does, but I spot cleaned every day, and cleaned the whole cage every week so in my case it actually didn't. it took a bit of my time, but it was worth it
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Mine are kinda crusty
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>>3858184
I just worry baytril might destroy his liver. I also have a terrapin that used it a few years ago and the forums were filled with warnings not to use it unnecessarily.
Regardless, I'll grab some. He has an appointment for monday but at this rate I doubt he'll live that long untreated.
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>>3858361
Why would you place mouse trap there.
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>>3858688

You don't breed a race of hyper-adaptive uber-rats without breaking a few eggs
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>>3858688
It's deactivated though.
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Is there anything about young rats that identifies if they will grow gigantic? I have had rats that stayed on the smaller side but i have also had babies grow into mini hulks and they keep growing from there. Any physical signs?
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FUCK DISGUSTING RATS.
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>>3859014
t. Cat.
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>>3858487
>>3858487
>liver issues with Baytril

First time I'm hearing about it. I did a quick check, and, at worst, there is a recommendation to consider dose adjustment in renally/hepatically impaired animals, but that's it really. Even if it came with a toxicity warning, though, pneumonia is a much more pressing matter. Start treating him ASAP, man, you can't afford to waste time when rats are involved.
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I love my rats
Shame they're having the rat sniffles despite several antibiotics and vet visits
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rat of the sleeve
you may have some cheese
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I'm torn. On one hand rats are very cute. On the other, need them to feed my pet snakes.
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>>3859384
rats can have mac n cheese?
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Yes, of course.
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>>3859377
Could very well be allergies.

Try switching the bedding to corncob or fleece, see how they do.
Also, make sure you use hypoallergenic detergent when washing their hammocks.
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>>3859384
>rat of the sleeve
>you may have some cheese
based
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>>3856357
Do Cranium Rats make good pets?
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recently got 2 pet rats a few days ago. how do i get them to trust me more enough so i can take them out of the cage to play? also what does it mean when they do a little sneeze or sniff at you? also new rat owner tips would be appreciated.
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>>3859765
try feeding them directly from your hand. feed them stuff that forces them to stay close to your hand at all times, such as coating your fingers with yoghurt. that way, they get accustomed to your hands
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>>3861142
>marshall has no moral compass, he is a rat.
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>>3859401
rats can have just about anything that humans can have
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>>3857036
Based rat anon. I have 17 rats from an unfortunate misgendering.
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>>3859393
Your snake is completely devoid of emotion. Kill it and feed it to the rats.
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>>3861209
>I have 17 rats from an unfortunate misgendering.
So THIS is why Twitter is so adamant about never doing that.
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>>3861209
How come that happened?
It's kinda impossible to miss a sheath and sack, ESPECIALLY with rats...
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>>3861213
t. never had a snake
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>>3856189
I love these little guys
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yes
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>>3861376
Not him but I have a ball python due to being the family pet dump. She is very cute but very dumb. She likes to climb around on people and is generally chill, but I've never seen her behave in a way that would allow me to differentiate her from another equal-size ball python. Meanwhile my rats are learning and adapting at an observable pace. In a contest for personality, there's just no comparing the silly, sleepy meat tube to the infinite potential of the Chittering Collective.
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>>3861280
I had never sexed rats before, and I didn't attempt to sex the rats, the person selling them did and I took their word.
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>>3852928
ye
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why are squirrels beloved but rats despised?
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>>3862043
A lot of people hated squirrels not long ago, considered them trees rats.
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>>3862043
One lives in the walls/sewers and the other doesn't. If you know nothing about rodents, that's all you need to conclude one is cute and the other is vermin.
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Wait, you sayin' we-
>chitters
You sayin'-
>boggles in your lap
You sayin' we some-
>cleans face
We some-
>sneezes
We some finna-
>sneezes again
You sayin' we some finna-
>dies
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>watch one of the many memorial videos on the various popular rat youtube channels
>expect it to be some corny grayscale, frowny-emoji-filled slideshow with sad classical music in the background
>it's actually very upbeat and energetic
>realize the owner has likely had to deal with dozens of rat deaths at this point and has reached a point that they truly believe in staying positive through the worst of it
>realize I will inevitably have to reach the same point some day
>realize it will only happen after seeing many more of my own rats live short but happy lives, then pass away
>spend the rest of the video thinking about how unfair it is that such intelligent and emotional creatures only get to live a few years
I haven't cried in years. Didn't expect to break that streak to a rat video of all things
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>>3863334
I hate this gay earth
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>>3863334
I know rats are intelligent but emotional? How so?
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>>3863431
They lick and boggle, the ways they show affection.
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>>3863432
How does a rat boggle?
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>>3863434
they chitter their teeth so hard that their eyes pop in and out.
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>>3863435
I think I am being bamboozled
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>>3863444
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f57HSjD_K8U
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>>3863445
Huh thanks. Guess I wasnt.
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>>3863446
rats would never lie or bamboozle
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>>3863432
Don't forget the squeaking, dominance-enforcement behaviors and subvocalizations. Or the myriad ways they can express fear and stress. They're very expressive creatures.
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the rat has the soul of a man
with a small, smooth brain the size of a pea, it accomplishes feats of intelligence foreign to cats, difficult for dogs and pigs, and others once thought exclusive to primates
there is no explanation for how so little brain matter could be utilized so effectively other than this:
the bulk of the rat's intelligence is ethereal, their human souls outsize their rodent bodies
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>>3853190
alone at the rat rave
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>>3863445
>vibrates eyeballs
get that neuraln etwork feverdream shit away from me
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>>3863481
This feels deserving of a recital at my next rat eulogy. Hopefully it's far from today.
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>>3855274
you need to go back to your containment board
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Rats are like little people
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>>3856226
Can you repeat the question?
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>>3852928
Greetings from /tg/
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>>3864084
I just can't say.
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So how would you go about breeding for a longer life span? Mate the rattos that remain healthy at a more advanced age?
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>>3864088
hello, friend
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>>3864166
greetings!
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>>3852943
>>3852950
>>3852954
Enlightening
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>>3863334
Unfortunately that's part of keeping rats - if you do it right, you rip your heart into a million little pieces at least once every few years for the rest of your life. It never stops hurting, you just get better at coping afterwards.
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>lmao i dont know why people get so upset over just a rat i had a rat in a fishbowl for six months until mom said i had to flush him down to the sewer didnt cry like a pussy boy when i did it lmao
How do you explain to someone like this that the more you know about a pet, the more painful the loss will be? I feel like every time someone mourns a lost rat anywhere outside of dedicated rat groups, some chucklefuck pops up to say shit like the greentext above. Hell, it's not even just restricted to rats - anything but a cat or dog gets the same treatment.
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>>3864343
Some people are soulless, simple as. There is no use trying to reason with them, they lack the basic human traits that would allow them to understand.
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>>3862043
I personally hate squirrels
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>>3864984
I like them, they are cute.
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i'm worried about one of my rats. he's always been a bit lethargic, but lately he's hardly been moving at all. when i try to pick him up he tenses up and tries to get away, squeaking. he looks like he's in pain, but when i examine him, there aren't any lumps or places that would indicate a tumor. he squeaked a bit while defecating recently, is he just constipated? should i just take him to the vet, and what can i do to comfort him until then?
pic related, he's the white one.
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>>3865065
vet asap
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>>3861209
Same thing happened to me as a kid but with guinea pigs.
>>3862043
Why do these things constantly scream like they're waking up from a ptsd nightmare?
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>>3857318
Update on this rat.
I got him to a vet and was given some other antibiotic. He's been very easy to medicate ever since I found out he's basically a bottomless pit for chocolate mint pudding. Today was day five and already he no longer shows any symptoms of his infection, thank god.
In addition to that, the vet also found tiny red dots in his bald patch. I had thought he scratched that patch bald from stress but it may have actually been mites. A shot and several days and the red dots and itching have both gone away.
It was a long drive out to find a vet that dealt in rats, but I'm glad I could.
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>>3862043
I hate those bastards. Always mooching off my bird feeders.
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>>3862043
I love those bastards. Always btfoing the faggy birds in my neighbor's yard.
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What are your rats' favorite treats? One of mine is super fond of kale but the other is more of a tortilla chip kinda guy. Regardless, kalerat is the chunkier one.
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>>3866294
>>>/sci/13394178
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>>3865437
Really happy to hear that, anon. I was beginning to worry about the little guy.

Did you actually wait for a week to get to the vet, or were you medicating him in the meantime?
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>>3866971
I bought baytril online after checking every nearby vet and pharmacy I could. Despite going for the best shipping option, it still hasn't arrived. Probably should've checked Amazon before buying.
I also kept a heat pad beneath part of his cage just to help keep him comfy, but lately he's been plenty warm so I took it back out.
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>literally caused the black death
>friends

They need to be extinguished
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>>3867931
We're talking about rats, not merchants, anon.
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>>3867931
>implying fancy rats have ever carried a plague to mankind
Reminds me of my brother who still refuses to go near my pet rats out of fear of disease as if they are naturally more prone to disease than, say, any other pet mammal. Why do people forget everything they know about epidemiology when pet rats come up?
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>t.cat
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>>3868045
wait never mind, I'm a retard
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>>3868046
It's okay anon, this is the official thread to appreciate smoothbrains
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>>3867998
>they are naturally more prone to disease
They are. They get sick all the time
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>>3868099
Human-transmissible diseases*
This should've been obvious from context but whatever
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>>3868069
Why do rats have smooth brains but also intelligent?
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>>3868069
think a idiot but he has a full tool-belt filled with top of the line tools and knows how to use them
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>>3868193
meant for
>>3868174
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Would you like to have a rat the size of a dog?
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If it lived as long as a dog too, it'd be a no contest 12/10 best pet ever.
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>>3868241
yes
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>>3868241
Sure. That'd be pretty cool.
>>3868259
There's already rats that live several times longer than normal rats but are extremely strictly controlled within their lab due to the damage wild rats that lived for over a decade would cause.
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>>3868241
It would just be a dog
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>>3868241
Quite frankly, I'd rather have a Dog the size of a Rat.
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>>3868259
A knight of the highest order.
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>>3868241
I'd rather a rat the size of a crocodile desu
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>>3868414
That's ham.
They're cute but really only kept as pets because they are not pests like rats due to their low int and dexterity.
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>>3868365
Except it can pick up stuff with hands and arguably more smart.
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>>3868241
I feel like a lot of rats tend to bite a bit hard at first. Imagine the damage
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>gave rats a little bit of chicken
>held one on my lap for a bit
>smell burnt hair
>look down
>he has taken a shit on my lap
>not a cute little dry nugget I could just throw away and wash off, either
>it's two inches long, soaking wet and reeks like holy hell
>paper tower can't get it all
>have to start a load of laundry early
Lesson learned. Holy hell
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>>3868811
Rats are intelligent, affectionate and playful.
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>>3868241
You can they are called Gambian pouched rats and although they are critically endangered in their native range they exist as an invasive species in Florida and people breed them in the pet trade they live up to 7 years https://youtu.be/CFGj1o0W40Q
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>>3868823
>import African superrat
>probably keep it alone for a month in a tiny, neon-colored hamster box
>either get bored or bitten, then dump it in the everglades
>so many others do the same thing that some males and females end up finding each other
Floridians were a fucking mistake
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>>3868868
Yeah as much as I hate another invasive species ruining the Everglades I’m glad this species has another population centre i would hate for them to go extinct they are a very cool animal
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>>3868872
I'm sure they're taking that niche from something native though. It's an unfortunate tradeoff.
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Another pouched rat video I want one so bad but there are no breeders here and I can’t buy one from the states unfortunately https://youtube.com/shorts/4i-Iyn0NSIE?feature=share
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AHHHHHHHHHHH I luv little rats funny fellows :)
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>>3868874
Yeah the invasive Burmese pythons in Florida are also decimating the native small mammal population so I understand why the rats are a big problem I hope they survive in the pet trade if their habitat is destroyed at least
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>>3868823
They are friends with fancy rats
https://youtu.be/-jap-syN_Zo
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I hear pouch rats are very aggressive and their bites are intense. Does anyone here have one? How are they?
Also what sort of setup does one of those monsters need?
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>>3868900
I’ve heard that too but a lot of pouched rats in the us are wild caught and I think that’s where that reputation comes from if you get them from a breeder they are very tame
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>>3868903
Hopefully. I'd love to add a couple to my mischief when I can afford a bigger cage, I just don't want to lose a finger while getting him used to people.
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No, Jews are not.
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>>3868900
I’m also reading now that they have very poor eyesight and rely heavily on scent to identify things so maybe try to wash your hands and not sneak up on them or they may bite? Idk I’m sure you’ll look into all that anyway if you end up getting one
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>>3868939
You pick up a rat by pinching at the very middle arch of the spine. If done correctly, it will not be able reach back with its head or arms/legs.
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>>3868941
I hope people are reserving that for moving wild rats. Sounds like a good way to keep pet rats aggressive.
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>>3868945
No, it's the ideal way to move all kinds of rat like creatures. It tends to immobilize them as well. They will jerk for a second or two but then all arms and legs out like a star.
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>>3868952
Doesn't look very stable for bigger lads. I'd probably reserve it or the tail grab for mean rats.
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>>3868966
Works for Guinea swine as well. Ive done it for woodchucks I shot with a .22 that didn't die and only had it's jaw blown off. I picked it up, it stopped moving and threw it in the hole and got a shovel and covered it up. It really works for all those type creatures.
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>>3868974
Ah, you're a shitposter.
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>>3868975
No, it works for smaller animals. Linda like the grab from the back of the neck works with cats, but not if they get too big.
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>>3868900
From what I know, Gambian rats are really more like raccoons in terms of personality. If you go in expecting the same kind of affectionate and inquisitive attitude you'd get from a fancy rat, you will probably be disappointed. IIRC it's illegal to import them, either, so you're going to have to turn to shady exotics dealers if you want one.
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>>3869060
Sounds about right. Yeah, it might be unwise to put something like that in a cage with other rats if you hope them all to share their food.
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>>3868241
With how much noise two rats can make when you're not looking, a dog sized rat would be deafening. I'll take three.
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STOP EATING MY PASTA YOU FUCKING RODENTS

MY PANTRY IS COVERED IN SHIT AND CHEWED UP PACKAGING
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>>3869689
learn to share
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>>3869986
God I love pics of rats with straws
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Remember not to give your rats straight peanut butter. Water it down a bit first to prevent choking!
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What liquid foods can I use to keep one of my rats interested in taking his liquid meds twice daily?
So far I've given him:
>chocolate syrup
>(thinned)peanut butter
>apple baby food
>pudding
What other liquid foods do rats enjoy? I'm trying to avoid yogurt because supposedly it can weaken some antibiotics.
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>>3869689
They stay out of my cupboards but they ate a bunch of oatmeal packets.
Somehow I can't hate them though even when they're chewing holes in the kitchen ceiling.
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>last year
>dad gets a ball python
>he can't afford to keep it warm and fed through the cold season, asks me to watch her until the spring
>he knows I appreciate rats and don't have much interest in keeping a snake, asks anyway
>figure he's desperate to find a home
>I agree as long as I can at least try to feed her gassed, frozen rats
>gf's brother sees and goes out to buy his own sweet, kick-ass snake day 1 of me having her
>insists on live feedings even though I've explained the benefits even for people who don't like rats
>he doesn't argue against my points, just changes the subject
>multiple times now he has gotten live rats that outgrew his dumb fucking snake without being successfully eaten
>each time he's too much of a pussy to kill them himself so I get the choice of either gassing them at home or trying to rehome them
>months of this shit go by
>finally warm season returns
>I call dad and offer him back his snake
>he says to just sell her, he doesn't want her
>gf's boomer stereotype dad offers to take her in (for free, of course)
>I tell him she's used to frozen rats
>he seems chill with it, asks me to grab him a 10-pack of frozen rats next time I go to the pet store
>today is finally the first feeding day following this
>he just contacted me, saying "oh we have frozen rats? well I guess we can feed her one but then I'm going to start her on live. And if they grow too big you aren't taking them as pets :^)"
Are snake owners the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet?
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>>3870205
Just a little more blogposting, sorry.
For agreeing to take in a snake for a few months, I have been rewarded with:
>participating in the deaths of 21 rats and purchasing several more that would be fed live later
>shittalk behind my back that I'm neglecting my snake for leaving half the tank cool and half warm
>the cost of two heat bulbs, a heat pad, a humidifier, a thermometer and the previously mentioned rats
>a grand total of zero fucking thanks from the guy who trusted me with keeping his snake alive, the guy who repeatedly asked me to go grab him live feeder rats or the guy who received from me a full-grown, healthy adult snake with a complete tank setup for free
>also several rats I can't manage to rehome because nobody takes in stray rats
I had a healthy respect for most animal enthusiasts before this, but after the past 10 months I think I can conclude snakefags, at least the ones who get ball pythons, deserve zero respect or pity. Next time this happens, and I'm sure it will because I'm the family pet dump, I will make a point to gas the snake as soon as the relative who dumps them forgets. As cute as they are, nobody who wants snakes deserves them.
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>>3864166
>thanquol
>said "friend"
hmmm
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>>3867931
the fleas on them did, and so did the people living in squalor who transported it all over the world with ships. cats and dogs spread the plague the very same way
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>>3870241
Cats actually acquire the plague by eating rats. Fleas from the dead rats hitch a ride on the cats at the same time, making them twice as deadly.

People in rat free homes were getting the plague from letting cats in. Imagine
>well, the rats are clearly causing this
>good thing we have cats
>1 week later
>WHY ARE WE DYING
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>>3870240
>friend
what did he mean by this
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>>3870192
Capture them and make them your pets.
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I want a rat but
>lives only 2 years
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They'd be great if not for the fact they die in 2 fucking years.
I can't bother getting attached to something only to see it go away so soon.
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>>3870473
Gambian pouched rat
>size of a raccoon
>does rat behaviours
>lives 8 years
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>>3868069
why does it look like a penis?
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>>3853169
Rats, rats, we are the rats
celebrate another one, a birthday bash
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>>3867920
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>>3870173
mayo
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>fancy rat
>friendly and inquisitive
>love to learn tricks
>a little stinky
>can eat basically anything you can
>nocturnal but plenty willing to negotiate
>only bite when scared; stop when they learn to like you
>soul of a man
>lifespan: 2-3 years, up to 5 if you get lucky

>Gambian pouched rat
>more intelligent but less affectionate
>individualistic
>noisy
>musky like a ferret
>hate being scooped up
>bite when annoyed
>hate being interacted with outside of a small window of time between midnight and like 3am and may bite hard if you wake them early
>strict fruit and seed diet
>soul of a monkey
>lifespan: 500 years

After reading into it a while, I feel like pouched rats are the inferior pet. Sure they're exotic, smarter and live longer but they're less interactive and honestly just don't scratch the itch fancy rats do. If I wanted a big, aggressive rat I'd just get a ferret and if I wanted a reasonably intelligent but socially cold pet that lives a while I'd just get a cat.
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>>3870642
Squirrels seem to be as smart and friendly as rats but they are hyper active.
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>>3870205
Snakes are dumb and virtually asocial but they look cool, so naturally the people that gravitate towards them are vapid idiots.
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>>3870648
Aren't they really skittish? I think they're really cute and cool and all but domesticated fancy squirrels sadly aren't a thing yet and taming one seems unreliable.
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>>3870648
They seem to have some problems of their own. I've never had one, but it looks like people on various forums seem to agree that squirrels aren't as social and will usually at best bond with one person and act shitty toward others. They also need MASSIVE enclosures due to their solitary, arboreal lifestyles. They're interesting but just like with mice and pouch rats, they just don't compare to the fancy rat. At least not to me.
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do u wash ur hands after handling ur ratos?
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>>3870205
>>3870691
I was friend with some Aussie dude a few years ago who either owned a snake or played with his GF's snake or something, kept telling me about it, sent me pictures of that thing wrapping around his hand and on top of that mentioned to me that it was fucking poisonous as well but "No worries, he's domesticated."
All I had was questions as to why he even finds them interesting, and all he had to say was constantly praise them and say how cute and shit they were. Motherfucker you got snakes that could constrict around you, fucking choke you out or stop your blood flow and potentially bite you if they decide to go aggressive, I really don't understand how you can see that as fun unless you're one of them depressive fucks who wants to die.
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>>3870769
I mean I get the appeal, pythons are very cute and due to their semi-arboreal lifestyle they're content to climb people. I just hate the insistence on feeding them live rats when there are no advantages beyond letting you pop a sadistic boner and the disadvantages include the off chance of the rat doing serious damage or even winning the fight.
As far as venomous snakes go, if we're talking something nonfatal like a hog nose then that's fine. Keeping pit vipers may as well be considered a warning sign that someone has erectile dysfunction.
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>>3870776
Also the Qora page I got this image from was about the question "Why should you feed a snake live prey?"
The answers included:
>Don't.
>Don't.
>Don't.
>Don't.
>Because it's what they do in the wild! I mean I don't but that's why you should.
>Don't.
>Don't.
just thought that was funny
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>>3870642
This is why we need pouched rat domestication to kick into over drive remember that the fancy rat has been the result of hundreds of years of domestication Gambian rats are only just now being domesticated because for some reason Africans never domesticated animals
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>>3870853
I'd rather we focus on making fancy rats bigger, smarter and longer-lived. No reason we can't do both though
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>>3870865
Yeah I thought about that too but I don’t know of any domesticated species bred to live a longer life? I could be wrong though just because I haven’t heard of one doesn’t mean there isn’t one obviously
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>>3852928
They look like my slav friends so yeah
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>It is not a true rat but is part of an African branch of muroid rodents

uh, pouch "rat" bros?n
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>>3870944
So they are like African people
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>>3870605
Gave them both a little bit. Even the one who doesn't ever bother to lick the tray clean left it spotless this time around. Thanks, anon
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>>3870944
I'm not fond of their beady, awkwardly-placed eyes. It's like they have normal rat eyes but a raccoon's scale.
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>>3871396
I'm glad it helped!
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>>3871470
ah, rex agouti. my one true love
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>>3871478
He's a silvermane though, or can they be both? I don't know much about them colors and types.
>with his brother
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>>3871490
My bad, I always suck at telling the difference.
ah, silvermane. my other only love.
is the other just called a plain black? he's cute too
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>>3871490
your rats grew up nicely
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>>3871494
No idea what type he is, but he's just as lovely
cuddly as his brother, just less soft.

>>3871572
Cheers! They are quite chunky yes, all around 600 grams the last time I weighed em a few weeks ago.
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>>3852928
I see a happy merchant
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domesticated, yes they are sociable/inteligent/curious
wild/feral, absolutely not they will fuck your shit all the way up with their diseases parasites and property damage
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I want to make love to the girl who does the Shadow the Rat YouTube channel. I want to gently push myself inside her and slowly venture deeper as I stretch her in mutual ecstacy.
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>>3871874
The fuzzy legs don't bother you? They bothered me at first, but then my gf stopped for a while and I started seeing the appeal.
The channel owner's name is Ester btw
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>>3871900
Has she ever done a face reveal?
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>>3853190
i believe hes gauging distance. getting some depth perception
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>>3871918
Yeah, rats have poor eyesight and some sway their heads back and forth to get a better sense of distance. Kind of how some animals can't see things that aren't moving or whatever but in reverse.
Fun fact, your eyes do the same thing imperceptibly at all times, slightly moving constantly to keep your vision active. Some people lack the muscles that perform this movement and they move their heads instead.
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>>3871916
No, but I have to assume she's got that dorky "butterface" thing going on. Some hate it but personally I can't get enough of that shit
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>>3870205
>And if they grow too big you aren't taking them as pets :^)
Can't you just tell him to fuck off or something?
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Found a wild mouse. If i keep it for a month and feed it healthy will it be disease free or is it always a problem?
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>>3872475
It will remain a wild animal. Also you shouldn't keep just one.
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>>3872723
male mice are territorial
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>>3872723
yeah, i know but it was very young(just growing fur but eyes were open) and i could hear it squeaking and crying and knew it was a mouse cuz i've owned quite a few.
i dunno if i'll keep it but i'm more concerned about myself and having it around since i don't know anything about diseases or if they just go away with proper diet.
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>>3871923
very cool. i've also noticed that moving head helps with measuring distance.
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Un ratto per amico.
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>>3859384
nice to cheese you.
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>>3870944
>>It is not a true rat
Ah, that's why they can live long healthy lives instead of getting cancer and keeling over before year 2
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>>3871918
I think you're right. A childhood friend's rat used to do that whenever a song with heavy base was playing. It wasn't loud, but it'd resonate through the shelf. My friend thought it was hilarious because the rat was dancing. I always thought it was screwing with his balance or the vibrations were making his eyesight a little fuzzy.
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>>3874048
>child
>has one(1) rat
>misreads basic behaviors and laughs
Mmm yes, I can see the setup now.
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>>3873751
rat orb
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>>3874118
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>3852928
Depends on the individual rat.
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>>3874681
I was going to ask what individual rats have malicious intent but then I remembered my meanest rat from when I was a kid. Mona was a little asshat and would regularly bully her cagemate despite being smaller. They still snuggled to sleep but that fighting was relentless even in old age. The other rat was very friendly and loved being held but Mona would bite and scratch every time. Through their whole lives, despite frequent efforts I never managed to soften that bitter little shit up to humans.
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https://twitter.com/PicsWithUTOST/status/1375078785297625090?s=20
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>>3874118
Rat Pog
Rat Pog
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post rats or else
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>>3875603
Blurry evidence of a loaf
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>>3875603
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>>3862507
KEK.
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>feed rats daily
>also give them treats including fruit and even some bits of human food
>they still act like they're starving to death whenever I so much as make a tiny noise with the pellet bag
I know what you're doing and it's cute but please stop you make me feel like a bastard
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>>3875880
no
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>>3875888
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>>3875880
That's a Pavlovian response. Same happens with cats if they get used to hearing you get treats from a bag or something.
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>>3872143
From the nerdy but confident personality, a true non-conformist, playing with pet rats into her 20s, the candid foot and long leg shots with those short shorts and little pajama skirts, the rats licking yogurt off her fingers...I also "get" her public image and even if she has a white girl horse face and glasses, it'll all be part of a sexy, unique package.
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I think rat are friend. But do rat think I are friend?
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>>3875982
If you are nice to them and give us food yes
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>>3875946
I haven't heard a statement more based on this site in a long, long time. That's the kind of girl you lock down and marry ASAP
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>>3875984
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>>3875982
oh god I hope so
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>>3875982
Rats have small cliques of 4-6 rats within their larger mischiefs, and supposedly they don't prioritize members of this clique as far as interaction volume goes. When they do, however, they seem to mostly judge whether or not to interact with another rat by their most recent interaction rather than all memories in total.
So they don't have best friends but they do have friends. Whether or not they count a human as a rat, I don't know for sure, but I can tell my rats prefer me over my gf and nephews just by how they hide under my shirt to get away from them.
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>>3875924
Guess I'll have to start getting pellets for myself until they lose hope.
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>>3875984
what am i supposed to do if i find my rat posting on 4chan.org? take him to the university so scientists and confirm his sentience?
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>>3877106
Give him free access, the quality of posts will increase.
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>>3877107
Rats are too empathetic and trusting, he'll never fit in.
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>>3853190
autistic rat
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>>3854719
This anon absolutely comes back here every day, hoping for some sort of outraged reaction
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>>3877162
>tfw my bait fails
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I love my rat bros but I wish I was better at bonding with them :(
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>>3877192
Pssh, better luck next time kid
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>>3877232
Depends a lot on the rat too, no?
If my first 2 rats were the second 2 I got, I probably would've stopped there. I love em, but they are a lot more distant, and only one of them just now, at 1.2 years old, is slowly becoming more cuddly.
While the first 2 I got, bless their hearts, were the best rats a beginner like me could get, super affectionate and chill.
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>>3877529
Hard to see that lad with that lighting. Looks like a ferret. Do you have any better shots?
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>nobody told me last year was year of the rat
So much additional ratposting... gone.
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can cats and rats be friends?
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>>3878429
They can be made indifferent to each other, but they aren't very likely to play safely even afterwards
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>>3877984
see >>3871490
>>3871588
>>3871470





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