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Can we get some more love for these amazing dogs, please? They don’t get as much attention by the public as other African predators, and they’re sadly endangered.
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Their puppies are just as adorable to watch as wolf pups.
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>>3437433
*Squealing intensifies*
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>>3437399
BBC made a pretty great film about the painted wolves/wild dogs back in 2018. It's part of the 'Dynasties' series made by the same peoples behind Planet Earth and its sequels. Check it if you haven't.
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>>3437450
I’ve seen that episode, and loved it. Another great documentary about them is from PBS Nature called “Dogs in the Land of Lions”. If you haven’t seen it yet, go watch it. It has a very heartwarming ending.
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I'd love to see them in person, they've always been my favorite.
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>>3437399
They get plenty of attention. I see them often enough on furry websites and they get plenty of documentaries. Being a large charismatic carnivore does that, and anyone who thinks they need more love than they already do is retarded.
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Bad pr, people hear African wild dog and they think mangy feral domestic dogs, not unique creatures very far from actual dogs. The rebranding as painted wolves was a good move.
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>sneezes
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>>3437399
Even in science, the african civet, bat eared fox, and many other smaller predators are several orders of magnitude less studied and less known than painted dogs (which appear very quickly among the lions and leopards in a google image search of 'african predators').
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>>3437538
I will not tolerate for having the word “retarded” on this thread!
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>>3437558
Okay, so what? You going to cry?
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>>3437450
yeah, did you see the part where the crocs took a baby and the other dogs were all protesting by the bank or shore like give us back our friend; unlike other species of animals that usually be like better you than me
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>>3437399
Outside of Southern countries and Some countries in West Africa, there is little to no legally collective protection for them, their relation with nomadic peoples outside of these regions are neutral and also damaging, being either a culturally important animal or entirelly despised in hunter gathering
More extrict legal protection does have strong enforcements like in Eastern Africa but also has its own fragilities, Ethiopia has cases of bordering hunt parties acting outside of populated areas, as in Central and South Africa its protection is more cultural than any other aspect, which impressivelly works well in their relation with humans.
Sadly a downturn that in North and Northeast Africa, expecially Egypt and Algeria, where it was once and still is like in other regions considered to be extremelly culturally important, are now either extint or extremelly close to being.
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>>3437566
Look, I’m all eyes and ears for whatever opinions and facts you have to say about the painted dogs/wolves, and I’m cool with that. While I’m aware of the fury fan arts of them all over the internet(I’m not a fury lover, just a casual animal lover), I always assumed that they don’t get talked about as often as other predators like Lions, Hyenas, or crocodiles, which is why I made this thread in the first place.

But what I will not stand is seeing or hearing harsh names like retards being used on to anyone or to any specific person. I’m all in to hear anything honestly and all, but please be mindful of what words you’re using towards people as some harsh names can hurt their feelings.

So please, no more mean names towards people on this thread and let’s keep everything here on focus on the painted wolves as long as this thread will last. Thank you.
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>>3437433
>see the lion cub
>see the dust cloud
>dust cloud settles
>lion cub gone
uh oh
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>>3437638
Go back to r*ddit.
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>>3437641
If you look closely you can see it running away from the camera once the fight breaks out. Near the end it's standing behind the fallen tree.
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>>3437558
okay retard
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>>3437649
>>3437670

HEY! I’m being honest and nice here, and you douchebags are pushing my limits!
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>>3437686
Good. Fuck off.
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>>3437665
are you sure? I think I'm seeing one of the dogs inches behind it as it crawls beneath it
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I love these animals
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>>3437407
They're not african people, they're african animals.
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>>3437708
just ignore him, he's a retarded troll
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I should probably stop spamming pics of them now
but god damn are they beautiful
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>>3437712
STOP USING THAT WORD, ITS VERY RUDE.
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>>3437692
Fuck off to you too, asshole!
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>>3437722
I’m really enjoying the posts of your painted wolf imagery collection. They’re all so wonderful to look at. One of my most favorite things about them is on how playful they can be with each other. They’re really fun to watch whenever they’re in a playful mood.
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Why the big ears?
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>>3437595
Yeah, I’ve been looking at their population on each African country very closely lately, and it definitely is a really strong challenge to get the painted dogs/wolves increase their numbers. While I do believe their best chance to bounce back is within much of southern and some eastern African countries, I also do have a sad feeling that they won’t likely be around in the rest of the continent by somewhere half way point of this century.

And I hope you won’t mind if I ask you this question, but which charity organizations do you trust mostly when it comes to helping the painted dogs/wolves?
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>>3437788
For excellent hearing while hunting prey, and to keep them cool off from the hot heat.
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>>3437641
didn't even notice there was a cub
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>>3437399
These guys are one of my top favorites, based thread
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>>3437698
Yes, watch again, The cub is perfectly safe as long as mom can get out of this situation and return to them
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>>3437568
I have seen my fair share of animals killing one another in documentaries, but I gotta admit seeing that pup being dragged and later struggling in the water against those crocs is pretty disturbing. Seeing the rest of the pack still waiting in the shores and just watch helplessly as their friend gets eaten alive, makes it even worse.
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>Lions dominate African wild dogs and are a major source of mortality for both adults and pups.[63] Population densities of African wild dogs are low in areas where lions are more abundant.[64] One pack reintroduced into Etosha National Park was destroyed by lions. A population crash in lions in the Ngorongoro Crater during the 1960s resulted in an increase in African wild dog sightings, only for their numbers to decline once the lions recovered.[63] As with other large predators killed by lion prides, the dogs are usually killed and left uneaten by the lions, indicating the competitive rather than predatory nature of the larger species' dominance
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>>3437727
my comrade you need a thicker skin for the internet
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>>3437768
Stop binge watching blacked and zoo porn, anon
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Anyone has made effort to turn them into household pets? There has to be some historical record for this. I know it is probably doesnt end well, similar to how people who try to have grey wolves and wolfdogs as pets
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>>3437399
>they’re sadly endangered.
why? :(
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>>3438985
outcompeted by lions hyenas leopard and humans
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>>3438988
how do they compete with humans? for gazelle?
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>>3438981
There’s no record of people trying to domesticating painted dogs, at least not what I’m aware of. And even if someone would try to domesticate one, it would be impossible to do. For one, Painted dogs are very social with each other. If only one would be alone by itself, that dog won’t likely survive long since their social bond is the main key to their survival.

The other thing is that Painted Dogs are usually afraid of us people. We’re bigger than them, and they see us as a threat. Whenever they see us, they’ll run away.

And meanwhile at zoos, usually the only time zoo keepers would interact with adult Painted Dogs is during feeding time through the fences. Other than that, the keepers don’t go in whenever the Painted Dogs are on exhibit because their bites are pretty dangerous.
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>>3437804
radiator ears you say
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>80% successful hunt rate
>Run their prey down until it can't no longer due to exhaustion
>Prey often leap into water as a last resort
>Either get dragged out, drown, or get snatched by a croc
>Dogs don't even properly kill, they just start ripping and tearing the soft underbelly out
>sometimes the prey will stand up with all of its insides hanging out
Being prey for these dogs must be a nightmare, if they start chasing you it's almost guaranteed you're dead.
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>>3439301
Yep. Pretty much like how jackrabbits also use their large ears to cool off too.
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>>3437433
Life is cruel
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>>3439339
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>>3439282
I wish someone would try to breed domestic dogs to look like they do.
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>>3438994
>Humand
I'd say it's more about habitat loss due to human development and revenge killing if the dogs kill livestock than it is competition for food
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>>3439322
Even though seeing them eating their prey alive is very nasty to watch, they do have a really good reason to do so. They have to eat quick while not making any loud noise in order to reduce chances of their prey to be taken away by larger predators(mainly lions).
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>>3439322
>80% successful hunt rate
That's entirely because of their massive packs. Food is so abundant in Africa that they can live in these massive colonies. Imagine how successful wolves would be if their habitat could sustain a pack of 40+.

>Dogs don't even properly kill, they just start ripping and tearing the soft underbelly out
All animals do that, Lions, Komodos, Hyenas, it doesn't matter.
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>>3440698
>All animals do that,
I guess carnivores are not big on empathy
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>>3437399
so are they wolves or dogs or what? Are they like Dingoes?
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>>3440698
>entirely because of their massive pack

Then why don't lions have an 80% successful hunt rate?

It's because they're persistence hunters, not JUST because they run in large groups.

Even the smaller packs of 8-12 dogs have similar success rates. the 80% is an average remember, and the average pack is faaaaaar smaller than 40+

Start again fuckwit.
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>>3439334
Thats why doggos love humans so much
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>>3440706
not really any of those 3
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>>3437399
>they’re sadly endangered.
So is everything in Africa outside of niggers
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>>3437641
You see him run off.
The dogs didn't get him.
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>>3440741
>reddit spacing
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>>3439282
Well, if one really wanted to try domesticating Painted Dogs you would probably want to just copy the Russian fox domestication experiment, and select for puppies that react well to being around people. Would probably still take a few decades to produce Painted dogs that are reliably friendly with people, but shouldn't be impossible.
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>>3442623
No disrespect to you and all, but I don't think it'll work that way. While I've seen some articles and videos about fox domestication and found it very interesting that foxes can be domesticated, Painted Dogs on the other hand are very much different from foxes.

While foxes are solitary canine after leaving their mother, Painted Dogs have the most complex social system of all the canine species. If someone were to try to take away a pup from a pack family for a period of time, even in brief gaps in time, that pup could very likely not be accepted back into the pack. And since Painted Dogs are super social with each other, a solitary life for one is an unhealthy lifestyle for them, and that individual dog will die because of it. They need each other to stay alive. Even when they're pups, their playfulness with each other and strong bound with their pack family really helps their survival bigly. Something that we humans can't proved for them in the wild.

And besides, Painted Dogs are still endangered animals. We should try and help increase their numbers first before we ever think about domesticating them.
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>>3437430
They look confused.
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So who keeps painting them anyways?
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>>3443692
We will never know
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>>3437708
Tomaytoes tomahtoes
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I never thought that Painted Dog pups could ever be raised by people correctly until I saw this video. I was both blown away, and heart warmed after seeing it. Give it a watch whenever you guys can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g7hkA9QF3c
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>>3439362
we must stop overpopulation of africa by stopping sending there aid and medications and physicians and vaccines and food
who's with me?
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>>3445258
Holy based.
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>>3445258
could not agree more, either develope them to the point they stop 1st type reproduction and have advanced agriculture instead of extensive one, or stop helping at all.
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>>3445258
>>3446173
Bill Gates literally mentioned using vaccines to control the population
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>>3438981
thee nigger are super aggressive, is the thing. Far more so than wolves.
Don't get me wrong, they're amazing, beautiful predators, but imagine pitbull crossed with a coyote and you'll have a good idea of these guys temperaments. Not good pet material at all.
Not long ago a kid fell into an enclosure with these guys at a zoo and got ripped apart.
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>>3446217
wtf i love bill gates now
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>>3440699
It's more that Predators are always trying to minimize energy spent, killing a large animal is difficult and consumes more energy, therefore they only really do it when the prey animal is still a risk to them. Whereas if you just run it to the point of exhaustion there's nothing it can really do to you at that point thus there's no reason to expend energy on actually killing it. Also as >>3439424
said predation in Africa is obscenely competitive, large swarms of large aggressive vultures will arrive within minutes of the kill, to say nothing of larger land predators, you have to eat as much as fast as you possibly can.
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>>3437558
Who let the retard in?
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>>3447199
DON’T USE THAT WORD IN THIS THREAD!!!
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>>3440798
couldn't they have picked a better dog breed than an uglyass boxer? The thing sticks out like a sore thumb
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>>3440870
have a pity (You), buddy
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>>3439322
>*yoink*
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