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Previously on /atoga/ - >>29013083
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Zutara sucks and will never be canon
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>>29015304
Disgusting.
She should be kissing Azula.
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Need some advice, lads and laddettes.

So, I've realized that I'm probably a genuinely broken person. I am, however, also very attractive to women.

I'm sexually conservative but have come to the conclusion that traditional marriage is fruitless.

What are the downsides to becoming a fuckboy? It seems as though almost every woman I meet is so neurotic and self absorbed that they cannot handle genuine intimacy and so stick to fuckboys so as to avoid the pain of rejection or abandonment themselves.

I may also just be basing this off the women I've encountered who have universally been insane. But surely they aren't all insane?
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>>29015325
be open to race mixing
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>>29015325
Sounds like you are a fuckboy in denial, stop virtue signaling. Nobody cares.
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>>29015337
I'm genuinely not, I swear to God.
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>>29015341
Read your own post, it's clearly written by a fuckboy in denial lmao.
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>>29015325
>What are the downsides to becoming a fuckboy?
If it's something that you consider morally corrupt, the biggest downside is that you'll hate yourself.

Plus it obviously carries risk for your health and safety, might impact you financially (e.g. you get a strange woman pregnant), and if one day you have a change of heart and want something more stable a lot of decent girls will look down on you for this.
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Women, how did your first period go?
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Girls, why are you so sniffable?
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Have you ever had a breast cancer?
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I'm all alone at work today and have access to the notebook of a cute college guy who's nice to me. What message would a guy want to find in his notebook from a stranger?
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>>29015353
Just normally, did have to wash the sheets though.
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>>29015343
Not him but why would you save your virginity for a girl who got ran through
All that sacrifice of not getting laid for nothing
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>>29015356
I am hygienic.
>>29015358
No, but I've treated so many breast cancer patients that it feels like I've ridden that rollercoaster with them.
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this woman lied in her profile picture but she sent me a real picture before meeting. She's chubby.
how do I let her down softly. She told me she got cancelled on twice and I have no interest in going either.. I tried ignoring her but she's kind of clingy and keeps texting
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Taking orders as they cum
I fuck when you tell me
I fuck when you say
Behind my dark glasses
There's a man who has
A pointy dick
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>>29015367
Nobody's forcing you to do that, retard. You're just a sad man complaining and doing victim olympics.
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>>29015369
How many breast cancer patients you've seen have survived? Have you ever seen any of them die?
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Women, what do you think of the semen milking machine used in the movie A Boy and His Dog?
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I want to start a service where I just let drunk girls text at me pretending I'm their exes, I love reading drunk texts from girls.
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>>29015348
I'm not sure that last part is true. I've yet to meet a woman who felt that virginity was a virtue.

This isn't really even worth arguing about. Women are attracted to power and power affords sexual partners by default. How much power you have and how many sexual partners you've had are interchangeable metrics for defining success as a man.
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How do you get over the shame in a relationship when you realize that you were very clingy/a pickme in the "dating phase"? The relationship is good now, but I didn't have any self-respect or standards back then since I was inexperienced/shy/didn't have social skills.
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>>29015383
What's wrong with being clingy
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>>29015373
It’s either die alone, be a cuck, or get laid
“Fuckboy” is a compliment disguised as an insult
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>>29015359
Fight club, xx street at 00:00
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>>29015388
Another redpiller cultist. If you want to, you could always try to get lucky and find someone suitable for ltr. Personally I got lucky on my first try for a relationship, but before that I was 100% content being a volcel in my adulthood.

And nobody's forcing you to do anything, just accept that you're a fuckboy who isn't suitable for a relationship.
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>>29015382
>I've yet to meet a woman who felt that virginity was a virtue.
I've met plenty, and personally when I was a virgin myself I only wanted to date virgin guys. The issue is that virginity itself often isn't a sign of virtue, but it's a sign of being a failed, unattractive man.

A man who is attractive and desirable to begin with and chooses to save himself will be more attractive to a woman who is herself sexually conservative. A man who is unattractive, undesirable and virgin is not more attractive because of it. His virginity is a symptom of how unattractive he is.
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>>29015371
Tell her that you're sorry but you have matched with someone else. She's not ready to hear the truth. Probably someone else will tell her the harsh truth at some point though.
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>>29015375
Plenty of them have survived. With the new types of plans that have been developed even in the past ten years, it's very survivable if caught early enough. I have never actually seen anyone die, but there were many instances, especially when COVID hit the fan, where I was told a patient I had just been joking and smiling with the day before died that night. It was and still is very surreal.
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>>29015394
>but it's a sign of being a failed, unattractive man.
it's so fucking over....
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>>29015372
A pointy dick
Magical phallus
Pickle Rick
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>>29015353
I cried in my bathroom while begging my mom to make it stop and telling her I didn't want to be a woman lol

>>29015356
I wash myself.
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>>29015387
It's a sign of having no self-respect if you're dating someone. if you're in an actual relationship it's kinda okay if you're both clingy, but you nobody should be clingy in the dating phase.
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>>29015359

"There's a girl who wants you to talk to her ;) "
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>>29015391
That isn't the op for this topic (I am).

So, here's my problem in a nutshell.

I don't respect most modern women and they sure as shit don't respect themselves. The death of God has brought about an abolishment of the positive meaning of pain. Women don't want children anymore, they want to be the children they were supposed to have (I'm speaking extremely broadly and about western or American women specifically). They're psychopaths because they're trying to imitate the behaviors of men that make them successful, those being psychopathic traits.

So, there are all these women around me that are desperate for intimacy but will abandon any man that tries to authentically provide it. They seem addicted to the cycle of getting to the sexual encounter and then moving on once he starts expecting more than a fucktoy. Hence they provoke him into abandoning her first so at least she gets the beautification of victim hood as a trophy she can set atop her vanity.
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>>29015359
That's so fucking weird. Are you a teacher hitting on your students?
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>>29015359
If he's a "college guy" what are you?
Anyway, tell him you know what he did that night
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>>29015407
>tl;dr i'm a fuckboy in denial
Yeah, nobody cares about you whining about your self-imposed problems. Just accept that you aren't relationship material, it's not so complicated.
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>>29015394
No offense, but do you really not see the meme in your argument?

You're saying you are attracted to attractive men and that sexual conquest is a reasonable metric to judge attractiveness.

>Virginity is attractive!
>But only if you're attractive ...
>If you're not attractive then virginity is icky and a sign of failure
>But it's attractive!
>If you're attractive ...

This is why I think men like me should die out and are definitely going to die out. We started out with too much respect for women.
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>>29015383
Stop worrying about stupid shit.
You're happy together, your relationship is going strong.
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state sex and why do the bots go away when I schizo]post?
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>>29015401
I just want to think about anything else
When I think about you
I wash myself
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>>29015413
I'm definitely relationship material.

But none of you are.
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>>29015421
If the post per minute drops below a certain point then the tranny bots kick up.

I'm in their discord server, trust me. They're schizos. You should see their bolt on tits. They've got a Kiwi Farms thread coming their way, don't worry.

:)
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>>29015407
Yeah your problem is that you don't want an actual relationship, but you're confused about it because society tells you to get into a relationship.
Your "death of God" bullshit blah blah doesn't help. Stop expecting anything from women. Stay alone. A relationship is not for you.
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>>29015353
Bad
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I think one problem I have with women is that Im not a 10/10 Chad so women wont fuck me within 5 seconds of meeting me but require more time/dating to warm up to it
however, Im also the most impatient person you will ever meet and Im very passionate so if I receive even mild signals someones disinterested Im prone to just bail altogether and find someone else
but sometimes when a girl says shes busy for the weekend shes actually just busy and not rejecting you and stuff like that filters me
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>>29015429
Society tells me to buy video games, funko pops and to never have children or to become a trannny you idiot.

I'm referencing Nietzsche by the by, my girl. You should consider reading him.
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>>29015423
So you're still in denial lol.
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>>29015427
what does schizo even mean to you? i've never met a real schizo who is misogynistic, or godless
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>i am 24 and a loveless virgin and I, in all likeliness, will remain so at 25
rope time?
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>>29015441
Why are you angry? You're the one coming here with an issue to fix.
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It honestly feels like you're projecting a lot of emotionally toned ideas onto me right now.

I'm not denying there aren't obviously temptations towards casual sexuality but its not my preferred method of interaction with others.

If women don't want to have children, then precisely what good is a romantic entanglement with one? They're reduced to sexual objects and nothing else.
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>>29015452
I'm already 25, soon to be 26
it's fucking over, bro.
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>>29015452
its not truly over till 30
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>>29015452
Wait until you are 35 at least
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>>29015452
That finish doesn't work for me, brother.
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Any books on the female mind and how it works?
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>>29015416
I'm saying that most men who are virgin aren't so out of "virtue", they're virgin because nobody wants to fuck them and their virginity is merely a sign of how undesirable they are.
There's no virtue in being virgin because nobody wants to fuck you. There is virtue in being virgin because you choose to be despite being desirable to women, and it's attractive to be virtuous.

You don't think in the same terms because pretty much all women are inherently desirable to men, at least when it comes to sex. Even if you're ugly, old, fat, mentally ill and shit to be around, you will always find a guy willing to stick his dick in you. Women who are virgins are so due to choosing to be, we get dick thrown at us since we're 11.
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>>29015458
28 year old here. I go through phase of caring and phases of not caring.
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>>29015466
>and it's attractive to be virtuous.
NTA but this isn't true at all. It's attractive to be powerful.
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>>29015438
eh, not all women immediately warm up to le chad. i once (accidentally) made my bf wait for me for 45 mins while we were still dating, and he waited. i also refused sex when he asked for it early on. you wouldn't think i found him 10/10 based on this, but i actually had a hardcore crush on him from the moment we met. i just wanted to wait, even if it was tempting to not wait lol.
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>>29015456
Sex is only one part of the relationship. Intimacy goes beyond sex and is more valuable in the end.
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>>29015465
female friend
gf
/atoga/
female singers
movies probably
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>>29015471
>It's attractive to be powerful.
More than one thing can be attractive, anon lol
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>>29015465
You don't need books, you need to be with females and talk.
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>>29015465
I believe psycology textbooks are available.
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>>29015465
If you don't believe women and dislike them, you'll never find out.
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>>29015476
How is being a virgin virtuous, beyond judeo-christian morality?
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>>29015383

I'm just a random guy from the Internet, but I really don't think that's too awful to get over.
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>>29015473
What could be more intimate than creating new life and negotiating its development together?

>>29015466
Well, I agree. However, it's a bit more complicated than that. Virtue is a cultural fashion, see Nietzsche.

The fantasy that you're describing is something akin to the fifty shades of Grey setup. A bewildering and powerful man is highly selective in his mates and in his extreme discernment has chosen you. How many mates he has had prior isn't even worth considering because his standards are so high.
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Is there a word for women who hate men? Thats just a bad as misogyny, and miso soup
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>>29015536
Misandry, misandrist.
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>>29015536
Misandry
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>>29015536
>miso soup
kek
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>>29015536
miso soup is based
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>>29015541
>>29015539
>>29015536
Are you a misandrist anon?
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>>29015545
No, I think misandrists should be guillotined en masse
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>>29015465
Lord of the Rings
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>>29015485
>How is being a virgin virtuous
Stopping yourself from indulging in something to adhere to your moral standards, such as only sharing sex within the bounds of marriage or loving relationship.
You don't have to agree necessarily with that standard, I've said it in every post that I'm talking specifically about people who are not sexually promiscuous and value this kind of stuff.

>>29015493
Frankly, no. It's really not any different compared to how it is for men. There is value in being chosen by a desirable and selective mate, there's value in being the first one he chooses and the last one he chooses. And I've personally never met anyone who is happy to think about a partner's sexual and romantic past, even more experienced men and women I know still get jealous when talking or thinking of exes of a person they love.
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I enjoy playing f2p genshin impact, what have I become
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>>29015554
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Good morning frens. How are you doing on your walk with the Lord today?
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last night I was fucking a chick and after the fact, she gave me a compliment, which I've gotten sporadically in the past also, that got me thinking.
>holy shit you're like sex on legs
My exes used to call me something to the effect of that, saying that I ooze sex appeal, have the "it" factor, etc.. So what is "it"? Is it looks, behaviour, confidence, or a mix of it all? Can any woman on here try and quantify it for me?
Mind you, I'm an average looking short, balding, 30 year old guy, and my dick is maybe slightly above average size.
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>>29015549
You are one, many such cases
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Women how can you brag about having empathy compared to men if you were literally forced to have to care about others when growing up?
>Is virtue signalling really a virtuous personality trait
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>>29015474
Dont have those
Dont have that
I know one or two of those
Movies dont show the full picture (pun intended)
>>29015479
Lol they all run from me, maybe im too autistic and serious for them idk. I try tho.
>>29015483
Im looking for something like this but it is easier to find books that define male than female i think.
>>29015484
I believe them (mostly) and like them but i think they play too many games.
>>29015551
Hmmm
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>>29015452
No.

>>29015438
>I think one problem I have with women is that Im not a 10/10 Chad so women wont fuck me within 5 seconds of meeting me but require more time/dating to warm up to it
Pretty sure that's all in your head. My boyfriend is by far the most attractive man I've ever met in every conceivable way - he looks incredible, I get wet just talking to him, his personality is perfect and he's everything a woman could want. I still didn't fuck him early on, and I was stressed about going on a date with him so I made him wait to take me out too lol
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>>29015552
I'm in agreement with everything but my point, which I think you must agree is at least backed up by how people behave, is simply that the amount of willing srxual partners a man has had is a reasonable measure of the power he weilds.

Now, restraint in the face of such temptation is a far better measure. But it's still a measure in relation to what he has access to. A man without any sexual opportunities is simply treated as inhuman by women (and rightly so, nature is a cruel and unyielding mistress)

Perhaps I am simply rationalizing my desire yo participate in the hedonism of the day.
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Any cute femanons ITT? ;)
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>>29015566
women who brag about having empathy likely don't have any. just like guys who brag about being nice guys, they are likely shitty people too.
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>>29015584
>women who brag about having empathy likely don't have any.
See also women who brag about being funny
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>>29015583
Sometimes I pretend to be.
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>>29015595
>>29015584
Neither of you two fuck do you?

I'm a man btw
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>>29015578
>the amount of willing sexual partners a man has had is a reasonable measure of the power he wields
I don't really agree. The amount of willing sexual partners you had is due to many different factors, and can't be boiled down to a single thing.

>A man without any sexual opportunities is simply treated as inhuman by women
A man without any sexual opportunities is most likely profoundly unattractive, and he'll be treated as such by women. Not as "inhuman", simply as someone they're not sexually interested in. Men thinking that a woman not being willing to fuck you means she doesn't see you as a human is a male issue, not a female issue.
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>>29015304
Why are women so into NTR?
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>>29015595
theres few actually funny women
my sister is funny but she had 5 brothers so thats cheating
Sarah Silverman is a genuinely funny female comedian although I do recognise she relies heavily on shock humor which is kind of cheap
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>>29015599
>image board-using man trying to brag about fucking
seems like i was right
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>>29015602
I'm not. In my fantasies about group stuff, the dynamic of actual relationships is ignored.
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>>29015602
What's that?
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If a women asks your height, it's automatically a Gigantic fucking red flag, yes?
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>>29015611
No
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>>29015614
why not
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If I'm a right winger would dating be difficult?
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>>29015394
>A man who is attractive and desirable to begin with and chooses to save himself will be more attractive to a woman who is herself sexually conservative
So if you don't expect a guy to be a virgin but he is, that's more appealing?
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>>29015611
in all fairness its hard to tell someones height from a picture unlike weight
but im tall so I have a different perspective (pun intended)
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>>29015601
I'm a philosopher (literally lmao) and I think we're at an impasse regarding our capacity to communicate the subtleties of our disperate experience of being.

Women are assigned humanity automatically but a man must earn his right to be treated as acceptable as a mate through the acquisition of power or an indisputable display of it.

>A man without any sexual opportunities is most likely profoundly unattractive
Women rate 80% of men as below average. Imagine what being in the bottom 20% must be like?
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>>29015619
Just move to Alabama
Unless you're a irreligious right winger, then you're fucked
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>>29015619
>he hates women
If you're a male, possibly.
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>>29015611
Not necessarily. You don't want a woman that doesn't know what she likes. But she can change her mind if you're that good.
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>>29015626
Doesn't really matter because men only actively pursue the top 10% of women. So it's more like 90% of men going for the top 10% of women.
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>>29015629
Leftists hate women more by shoving mentally ill people with dicks into their category
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>>29015633
NTA
All this shows is that your options peak when you're moderately above average, whatever that average is
Maybe that's why women don't hit on me (copium)
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>>29015602
dont know what it is
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>>29015639
It just shows that you're likely only pursuing women out of your league. Now complain some more.
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>>29015619
It depends on where you live.

>>29015621
It is going to depend on the person. For me yeah, it would have been more attractive if it was a conscious effort of him to stay virgin.

>>29015626
>Women are assigned humanity automatically but a man must earn his right to be treated as acceptable as a mate
You're conflating "humanity" with "being acceptable as a mate". No man but one is acceptable to me as a mate, and even when I was single I wasn't interested in 99% of men I met. I still treated the others humanely and kindly.

>the acquisition of power or an indisputable display of it.
I disagree. There are plenty of men who are not particularly powerful and yet don't struggle with women, due to their looks, lifestyle, social skills and such.
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>>29015304
How are you supposed to practice "self love" and regain confidence if you have no reason to live yourself?
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>>29015633
that graph doesnt make sense to me
myself and every guy I know except Chads message literally every woman. if we realize theyre a whale we stop. but generally for everything else we keep going because even if theyre unattractive getting laid aint bad
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>>29015626
>conflating mate acquisition with humanity
Typical of a philosophycel
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>>29015646
Stop feeling sorry for yourself, cause that is not gonna help you with anything.
Then if you have no reason to live, it just means you have to create meaning in your life. What brings you joy? What interests you?
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>>29015643
I said copium for a reason. The real problem is that I don't bother pursuing women ever, lol.
I don't know how women would rate me, honestly. Ever since late high school, I've usually had around one woman I knew was into, but I don't know how that number compares to other men.
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>>29015647
Sounds like you're lying or think that the above-average (top 10-20%) women you're messaging are in your league. But in reality you're only pursuing women who are out of your league.
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>>29015626
>>29015645
To add to this, I think this stems from your own views of women more than anything. You think that the only value you have as a person to a woman is as a sexual and romantic partner, because you only see women as that. You don't think that a woman can treat you humanely if she's unwilling to have sex with you.

But, again, it's a "you" issue more than anything objective.
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>>29015663
Not all men pursue women ofc, but the ones that do, tend to pursue women out of their league (the top 10-20% of women).
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>>29015645
>No man but one is acceptable to me as a mate
So, you're discriminating against all other men? Why? Are they not equal to him in terms of their humanity? Their capacity to be adequate or superior mates? Surely you cannot claim he is objectively the best man for you?

See.

You just gotta think about it for a second. Marriage or monogamy implies prejudicial assignment of the worth of a human. It judges their humanity.

>I disagree. There are plenty of men who are not particularly powerful and yet don't struggle with women, due to their looks, lifestyle, social skills and such.
Why are you advocating for unprincipled exceptions?

>>29015633
Being attracted to and being able to get women are different things, bro.
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>>29015665
sis I message literally everything with a vagina between the ages of 18 to 45
my only standard is: not be fat.
If they prove to be fat I ignore them

Most men are like this.
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>>29015663
>I've usually had around one woman I knew was into
I knew was into me*
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ladies and trannies, would you date this mentally deranged person?
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>>29015666
>You don't think that a woman can treat you humanely if she's unwilling to have sex with you
Huh, holy shit. You helped me realize why western society has collapsed.

Because that's absolutely true. You're a woman so you can't really conceptualize this as an experience any more than you can empathize with being a jellyfish but women absolutely do not see you as human if you cannot provide those two things for them.

You're either a fucktoy or a daddy surrogate for most mentally ill western women. I need to really dig into this. Thanks.
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>>29015669
>>29015663

>(the top 10-20% of women)

Are you people even able to accurately define this nebulous "top 10-20%" of men and women? I feel like most of you don't even know what the fuck that is and just Google search and post the first graph you see that aligns with your personal beliefs.
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>>29015685
Welcome to science
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>>29015682
NTA
Have you ever had female friends, lmao
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>>29015688
Not really. Any woman who's expressed interest in me as a friend has incited the moment where we each have to decide if we want to sleep with each other. I would say I can be friendly with 18 to 22 year old women, but they always seem to fire up involuntary instincts that drive them to investigate the possibility of a sexual liason.
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>>29015685
Why are you including me in "you people"
Women are into me at least some degree, I'm not the incel philosopher posting dumb shit.
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>>29015688
Now, that's all fine and dandy because those instincts are vital to life.

The problem I'm having is that the maternal instinct in modern women has been replaced by the personality of a psychopathic man.

I'd say a marriage to a modern woman is psychodynamically equivalent to a male male homosexual relationship.
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>>29015694
Calm your tits. This was not a personal attack to you. I'm asking someone to define the "top 10%", whatever the hell that's supposed to mean.

>Women are into me at least some degree,
And?..... Unless that helps you answer the question I don't know why you brought that up
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I AM the MOSHIACH god damn it, Jidf I’m getting real tired of your shit,
How can i be antisemetic when im jewish
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>>29015685
Just look at the graph posted, it's not so complicated.
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>>29015673
Doesn't seem so, or you are different and assume that everyone else is like you.
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>>29015713
You're using data that was likely cherry picked from dating apps. That's not necessarily indicative of how all people in real life act. You still haven't given me a concrete definition of what a top 10%-er even is. If your mom were to ask you what that is, how would you describe it?
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>>29015718
Why do women constantly reject factual information that they themselves can verify by just thinking about it for like half a second?

What mechanism in their brains makes them behave this way?
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>>29015672
>you're discriminating against all other men?
Mate selection in monogamous societies is necessarily a process of discrimination, because you have to differentiate between people for their characteristics and select whoever is a better match to you. I don't discriminate against all men, I simply choose one who is overall better suited for me, which to me is my boyfriend. I've never met a man who is better than him.
I don't see a person I don't choose as a partner as "less of a human". I see them as less of a good match for me.

Obviously now I'm in love with him and we shared a lot, so he's both objectively an excellent match and subjectively the love of my life.

>Why are you advocating for unprincipled exceptions?
Because realistically the majority of men who are sexually successful aren't particularly powerful. Being somewhat good looking, socially capable and having an active social life often is mostly what it comes down to.

>>29015682
>women absolutely do not see you as human if you cannot provide those two things for them.
We do. I meet a lot of men I have no sexual interest in, really that's the majority of men I meet. I see them and treat them as humans.

I don't see my fiance as a "fucktoy or daddy" either.
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>>29015705
>And?..... Unless that helps you answer the question I don't know why you brought that up
It's my attempt at proving I don't think in a strict 1 to 10 scale.
The problem with the graph is that I don't know how Attractiveness is rated. Is it attractiveness as a partner or just physical attractiveness? Because if it's the latter top 10% just means top 10% of physical attractiveness (see: any hot young celebrity)
If it's relationship attractiveness I don't really know what top 10% would be, since that depends on the person.
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>>29015720
Not that person but are you american/retarded?

The graph defines top 10% as being the people who get sit in the 90th percentile for attention given by the opposite sec you fucking moron.

>only 10% of people are taller than 6'2"
>Yes but can you DEFINE taller than 6'2"?
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>>29015721
theyre emotional, so when they dont like a fact they just dont accept it rather than dealing with it like men
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>>29015720
That's true, but I was posting it as more of a counterpart to all the "anti-female" tinder graphics people post here all the time.
And the "top 10%" is simple. If most of the men are only messaging a small portion of the women, those women are the top % there.
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>>29015602
They're not. It's for betas and minorities(derogatory)
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>>29015722
Do you plan on having children?

Not as in "well maybe someday" I mean are you and him actively taking serious steps towards ensuring you can absolutely have children at the nearest possible juncture?
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>>29015732
Same poster but bro men aren't any better they'll just rationalize away the fact instead of ignoring it. They're schizophrenic in that respect. Hell, they'll argue that the fact actually supported their position.
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>>29015735
Yes, we were actively trying before I had some health issues that I will need surgery for. Will resume trying by the end of the summer.
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>>29015737
by and large youre correct but the proportion of rational people is larger in men than in women

but I get your point and accept it, most people are just stupid, which is a more important thing to consider than just focusing on women
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>>29015738
Then you're not the type of woman I'm talking about, my friend. You're an exception to the rule.

So, don't take anything I'm saying personally. (You're a woman so you absolutely will, and now that I say don't take it personally you absolutely will tell me that you weren't).

So, good conversation. I hope you and your partner succeed and wish you all the goodwill in the world.
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>>29015710
the real defense force are the the men and women who spend all day everyday arguing the same points on the internet. this is real, i think. this is a metaverse, but it's real, i think.
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>>29015304
Women, is a guy being super into mma a red flag?
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>>29015733
But the graph shows that attractiveness =/= # of messages, since those are different lines.
>>29015729
They're asking what attractiveness specifically means in this context
The solution to this would just be if someone pulled up a link to the article this is from to see how the people who made it define attractiveness.
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>>29015743
I'm not an exception to the rule, most women want children and most women around my age in stable relationships are trying to have them. Half of my friends is pregnant.

But thank you, I hope we succeed too.
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>>29015749
Ah yes, the NPC’s. Did you know 50 to 70% of humans have no internal dialogue?
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>>29015763
NTA but that doesn't mean they don't think lol
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>>29015767
I don't know, man
that shit is creepy
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>>29015769
It's really interesting, visual thinkers are cool as shit.
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>>29015775
nah, I don't think that's how it works
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Post gender
By your own definition, what is the sluttiest thing you have done?
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>>29015753
It means you get more attention than people who aren't attractive.

Trust me I'm a scientist.

>>29015754
I think you're probably on the middle to upper middle classes bare minimum then or are young.

I apologize if I was somewhat rude, but it felt as though we were talking about different categories of people and now I see that we definitely were.
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A girl I'm dating invited to her own place. She lives with her parents (we're in our early 20's, not literal children)
What should we do there to keep ourselves busy and enjoy each others company?
This is the first time I'm doing this ever and I Imagine that it's gonna be hella fucking awkward
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>>29015780
M.
I'm still a virgin.
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>>29015783
>She lives with her parents (we're in our early 20'
smart girl, if you don't do this, you're probably poor
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>>29015780
I did sex magic involving a sex demon with a big titty goth witch woman. It was super hot.
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>>29015778
It is, at least for some. There's a very interesting interview on this on youtube, it fucked with my head really hard. I'll see if I can find it.

>>29015782
I'm firmly working to middle class in terms of upbringing, most of my friends are in their mid 20s to mid 30s.
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>>29015782
>It means you get more attention than people who aren't attractive.
>Trust me I'm a scientist.
I think we've fallen into a hole of confusion thanks to 4chan's anonymity.
Explain your *full* argument clearly, please
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>>29015780
Took a dick pic and deleted it
I've also cum all over myself before
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>>29015780
F
almost getting an orgasm on a bus
posting a risque picture on /soc/ one time when i was drunk alone at home
having sex lol, but this is not according to my definition since i've never done fwb/ons
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>>29015798
What, The fuck. Is wrong with the women that post in these threads.
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>>29015763
the eyes to see, and the ears to hear
Tell me, brother, why do I simp for my brother man?
I want them to do better
Don't these talking monkeys know that eden has enough to go around?
Love is so real, bro
>>29015775
does this imply I can't do both?
>the eyes to see, and the ears to hear
>>29015780
posted pics of myself on reddit.com/r/atoga
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>>29015729
>He's using the height meme excuse again

I'm not saying that doesn't give you an advantage but that does not guarantee you sex like you dumb fucks claim it does. Have you at least tried to make yourself more marketable? You talk to people at least? These top 10% unicorns you keep romanticizing did not just have these people fall into their laps. Okay maybe the women did but the men certainly didn't. They still have to put in work into it.
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>>29015780
M, it was our 1 year anniversary and we were both a bottle down. After dinner we went back to her place and I aggressively made out with her and peeled her clothes off. I held her down to the bed and while making out fingered her to orgasm 4 times.

It was a regretful moment for both of us.
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>>29015800
i started using image boards when i was 14, duh.
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>>29015798
>almost getting an orgasm on a bus
Hot
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>>29015791
I define attractive as receiving more than the median level of attention.

You ARE a trained scientist, right anon? You're not just being pedantic because you're insecure about your intelligence and its the only way you can feel superior to others? You didn't actually identify with Socrates did you?
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>>29015780
F. Made my boyfriend stop his car in a parking lot to suck his dick lol
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>>29015798
>almost getting an orgasm on a bus
Were you doing or watching something?
I always had a thing for doing things in public but my girlfriends always got scared by the idea
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>>29015808
That's not an excuse, for anything you've done.
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>>29015822
This is a tranny for sure.
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>>29015304
Zutara should have been endgame. Aang is a bald faggot and completely unfuckable.

>>29015785
Die you whore.
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>>29015814
>I define attractive as receiving more than the median level of attention.
The chart we're arguing over literally has level of attention and attractiveness as seperate variables you numbskull
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>>29015795
Is cumming over your belly considered weird?
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>>29015803
Your reading comprehension is at like a 4th grade level my dude.
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>>29015767
I DIDNT SAY ANYTHING… just think about it
This is recent news though.
>>29015801
>love
Ah hi it’s you I remember you
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Who here rode the short bus?
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>>29015833
Woah, this is a throwback. An actual narcissistic psychopath.

What communities did you freakshow losers end up moving to anyway?
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>>29015820
it was a long-distance bus ride with my boyfriend, glad we're both into that kind of thing i guess. but it's not like i took any clothes off, being naked in public would be too much for me.
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Who /neetcel/ here?
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>>29015831
No, I had my dick thrust up and came on my face/chest
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>>29015780
M. Drinking my gf's saliva, getting tied up while my gf took pics
>>29015841
Hot. I would love something like that but being naked would also be too much
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>>29015847
OMG, me!
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>>29015833
I gotta be more selective
>That finish doesn't work for me, brother.
I'm going over tonight, shoot!
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>>29015833
I know you can't resist attention, you're a narcissist bro.

You live with your grandparents what other social interaction can you get? Tell me about what you do all day.
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>>29015840
why are you mental illness shaming me, if I’m not hurting anyone i can behave how I want to
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Is this thread just gonna be incomprehensible regularfagging now
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>>29015864
I shoot just told you. I'm the new champ
This is what you wanted, the people
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>>29015864
I'm still here. :)
Do you have any questions?
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>>29015780
M
Fucking my ex gf who had cheated on me and now had a new boyfriend. I helped her do what she'd done to me to another man.
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>>29015873
Larp
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>>29015873
Why did this get deleted wtf
>>29015876
I wish dude
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>>29015838
i did because i lived in the country
>retard country, sounds like
NO!!!
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Hello?! are you going to say something back?
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>>29015862
Because you will infected others with your shattered mentality and corrupt anyone who shows you good will by demanding pity.

People like you weaponize pity to inflict pain and emotional discomfort on anyone who refuses you attention. You're a disease. You ruin anything you touch. You have no control of your impulses. You've probably jacked off twice already today to point that no sabe man would consider anything other than freakish.
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wanna play some mahjong?
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>>29015891
And you're a pedophile.

Lmao, holy shit I love Freud. That man was right about almost everything.
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>>29015892
>>29015897

So I’m the crazy one but you’re the one being toxic. I’m just a little annoying
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how can i convince the bat man to come to my birthday party with high certainty without looking desperate or vulnerable
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>>29015889
Nick, why do I care so much? Where more better to care?
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Wrong thread, assholes
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>>29015910
thats an unholy trinity if i ever seen'd one
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>>29015900
Can I get an invite into the discord? Oh wait I already have one and am about to make a Kiwi Farms thread on you lol
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This Is exactly why the mods ban me stop trying to change me, I don’t care. Maybe I know it better than you
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>>29015914
No one cares bruv.
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>>29015920
Your grandma is going to be very disappointed when I keep mailing her a printout of your dick every other day.
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Well, this thread is embarrassing. I'm off
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>>29015926
Same
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>>29015914
I have a discord server but that’s only for me and my friend i talk to.
Go ahead but it’s going to backfire because im not a bad person
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>>29015925
No one cares bruv. This isn't 2013, hack threats are kinda dumb.
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>>29015908
>Where more better to care?

serj tankian once said something that marketing gurus have taken additional decades to digest and start spewing themselves

he said

"every time try to go where i wanna be it's already where i am, because i'm already there"

i'm going to try to get SOAD added to the Torah i think that would be litty
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I know there's nothing you can do to avoid it but to be cautious and open, be willing to talk and make wise choices. But man I am terrified of dating and marrying someone who, potentially years down the line, reveals that they've never been that into you, 'settled' for you, or keeps dating apps on their phone or flirts with coworkers.
Where your whole life crumbles because your idea of this ideal partner you've chosen is destroyed.
It's not like I believe in soulmates. I know there are many thousands of potential people out there who'd be 'perfect' in my eyes, but man.
The fact that despite what people say, you'll never know if they're just taking you for a ride is scary.
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>>29015940
I love you, bro. Much love to your family too. Be well
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>>29015942
That's the risk with love. I suggest being fine with being alone for the rest of your life, and in the meanwhile hoping to find someone you can be able to trust 100%. Actually trustworthy people are rare though, but they exist. Although usually good and loyal women are snatched up when they're like 18-20.
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Women is rizz very important?
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>>29015944
<3
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>>29015925
Don’t talk to me until you made that thread
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>>29015945
Yeah. A bit late now, staring down the second half of my twenties. Kinda accepting I might be alone my whole life. Which is a shame because I've always wanted a family of my own but hey.
If it happens it happens, I'm just realising that maybe it won't for me.
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kind of afraid to get into a relationship with a decent looking girl again
my extreme confidence is only kept in check by my lack of sex
without that I just become an asshole
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>>29015956
most men meet their "forever partner" at around 27, you might still get lucky. But it's always good to be able to be happy alone.
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I could use some free marketing cause the glowies just ignore me
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how cold should i go with a girl that i think is just leading me on for attention?
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>>29015959
I'm the total opposite. The lonelier I am, the more disconnected from others I become, and the more arrogant I become to cope with it.
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how can i convince the hahamim to listen to my favorite cd

how can i express to rabbi how important it is that he listens to my soad-only mixtape?

it's not a best of or greatest hits it's what belongs in the torah
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what do you think of the fact that the people who have dedicated their lives to the pursuit of truth are called the hahamim

from the root words haha as in lol
and mim as in dank memes

discuss
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>>29015892
>>29015897
>>29015914
>>29015925
Are you just going to attack me and leave?
What is this odd behavior anon
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Posters: 43

???
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>>29015966
Accept that you're a simp, you wouldn't like her in the first place if she wasn't like that.
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Any reason to not date bpd, abusive and toxic women?
I don't think anyone can hurt me more than she did already.
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How are you doing anons, what are you plans for the day/night?
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should I start (socially) smoking to be able to get friends more easily?

I've always been on the shy side and haven't had friends since middle school. but I've been to bars a few times with some randos who offered me smokes, and I realized that it was so easy to socialize in that setting (smoking outside a bar) even if I wasn't drunk. I wouldn't only be smoking at bars of course though, getting invited to a bar that one time was a rare thing for me. but I would do it 1-2 times a week outside near social places. opinions?
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>>29015304
Is it really so wrong to want to break up with your girlfriend because no sex? My woman friends have said really unkind things when I brought up the possibility, but I can't stand it.

My first gf, the first six months we were all over one another, first time in my life I ever felt desired by somebody. After six months, up to the two years we've had now ... nothing. Just one day, she said no I don't want to do anything sexual. This continued a week, then a month, then a year.

I love her, and I know she loves me, but I feel like complete shit. It really makes me cry and it hurts, because I'm somebody who always thought I was repulsive and it wouldn't be possible for me to be sexually desired. I finally get it, and then suddenly it's all taken away. Is it evil to break up with her over this?
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>>29015993
but i did initiate it all before she started acting like that, and im pretty sure i've avoided being that kind of nice-guy.
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>>29016008
exhausted, but alright

hiking, cowboy bebop and reading
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>>29016008
my crush cancelled our date 4 hours before it. Looking for the highest accessible building I could jump from
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>>29016016
nah, women think they can provide men with many things. In fact, they are only good for procreation. So dump her
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By the way don’t bring great minds like Freud into your shenanigans, he would probably think you’re a faggot
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I have a couple of very old friends who I see a couple times a month.
The two of them are roommates, along with the one dudes wife and another guy.
Literally all they do all day is drink and play video games. They literally just pass a bottle of vodka around and I’m almost certain they’re drunk all the time.

I love them and we go way back but it kind of disgusts me the older I get. They’re in terrible shape and eat junk food and take awful care of their bodies. Idk. I just don’t even want to be around it anymore.

Am I wrong for this?
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>>29016025
Okay that's incorrect though. My girlfriend does provide me with many things. I just want one of those things to be sexual.
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>>29016008
disappointed for getting rejected but surprisingly i dont feel like shit like in the past, i think i've changed for the better over the last few months.
thinking of going out later since it's wagebux weekend here in the first world.

>>29016032
it's normal to not want to be around degenerates.
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he left didnt he
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Women would you ever consider being in a relationship with one man and multiple women?
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Man this sucks even the gangstalkers are scared of me
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>>29016032
i was recently hanging out with someone i grew up with
he bought a switch and he had the latest smash bros
i had probably 1.5-2k hours on melee+brawl so i was actually really stoked

but the controller was so tiny in my hands
and the buttons were swapped around so i not only had no muscle memory i had anti muscle memory, bad visual/reaction reflexes based on thousands of hours
and the stages were so dynamic and noisy i was just constantly dazzled

and i'm like 30?
i will literally never be able to enjoy this game, i thought
and as i was just getting my ass kicked while hunched over this little cucktroller and drinking a light beer

and the room started to stink and the the air felt stale and i just had the quiet tragedy of realizing how much of my life was just chopped off by something as simple as a controller design change

and i was just like "i have to go" and i left and i don't think i want to ever play smash again
i want to be on a mission and breathing fresh air or at least strange air when i am "hanging out"
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>>29015400
reddit
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come back anon i want to talk with you
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Women, do you love sushi?
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>>29016040
No, what's even the point of such a relationship? You're just wasting your time with a man who doesn't love you.

>>29016070
Not really, I don't care for it. I'll eat it if I have to but there's other stuff I prefer.
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>>29015780
F
Flashed my tits once to a couple of classmates.
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>>29016016
No, it's fair to break up if she stopped being into you completely. If you've tried to fix it and nothing worked, move on.
I'm sorry this happened to you.
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>>29015892
You can’t post from a vpn have fun on your watchlist
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>>29015780
M
Came in my own mouth probably
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>>29016092
lol, gay
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>>29016094
Bro, I didn't have a tissue and didn't want to clean up everywhere. It was the only way I came up with
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>>29016095
Yeah, that's the gayness breaking out of the closet.
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Femanons
Is guys eating their own cum hot?
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>>29016105
bonus question,
would you find snowballing hot? Would you expect him to swallow?
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Did you work out today, /atoga/?
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>>29016120
Not yet, but I will be at 6 once work lets out.
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>>29016120
No, I'm about to move.
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>>29016124
To a new state?
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>>29016133
No, to a different city for a summer job.
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>>29016121
Good, do your best
>>29016124
>>29016136
I'm moving soon too, but for a long term job.
I've done insane summer jobs before, I wish you courage and to return with a shit ton of cash.
And meet some random celebrities you can talk about.
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>>29016008

Gonna get high tonight. Not super-high, just chill and vibe to music type of high
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How early should I be for a wedding? An hour? It's at 5pm.
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>>29015304
wtf? I thought all the Zutarafags killed themselves in 2008
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>>29016153
Yeah, an hour seems ok.
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>>29016120
No, I had another breakdown and lost all my routine
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>>29016008
I'm tired like you wouldn't believe.
But things are going well, there's some serious positive outcome.
I'm chilling tonight and getting my face blasted on MDMA and beer tomorrow.
>>29016166
Take your time to collect your thoughts and get well. Eat as much as you can of something nutritious and try to take a walk and some sunlight.
It's going to be fine and I wish you the best.
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>>29016016

Sexual compatibility is huge in relationships. I can guarantee that if the shoe was on the other foot, that if you completely rejected her for sex no matter what she did, all her female friends would be saying she'd be well within her rights to dump you.

Like, do you take care of yourself? In reasonable shape, clean, don't smell, and so on? And you're treating her well and not wrecking her sex drive with stress? And you've spoken to her about how you could make her more comfortable/happy, if there's anything you could do to entice her sex drive at all, and so on? Then you've done everything you could.
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How do I get a gf? Also is physical appearance the biggest factor? Also pls validate me by telling me that I'm a handsome boyo
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>>29016176
You are ugly as fuck, but so are all women. They are disgusting
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>>29016171
Yeah I'm in shape and don't stink.
She's attracted to me, I'm pretty sure, just says she has no sexual desire anymore. I treat her nicely (hard to self assess but I show my love for her in many ways and help her through everything going on).

I talked to her and she says she just doesn't feel sexual desire anymore, and that I shouldn't be hurt and that it has nothing to do with me. I'm like okay well maybe we can build it back? Sometimes have sexual type conversations, slowly ease into a frame of mind where you have sexual thoughts again.

She's like uh idk we can try, and then doesn't want to. And if I bring up anything sexual she seems very uncomfortable. I don't want to feel like I'm sexually harassing my girlfriend by telling her about a lewd dream I had.
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>>29016176
>meet girls
>if you jell with them, ask them out
>if they say yes keep going out with them and see where it goes, if not go back to step 1

Bit of a numbers game but there's someone for everyone. If you care too much about your appearance it'll show. Life isn't a videogame where there's rigid requirements. You don't NEED to be able to bench 225 lbs to get a gf, you don't need to hit a specific weight. You work on constantly improving yourself and ask girls out along the way.
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>>29016190
How do you get to step 1?
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>>29016176
Physical appearance is not the biggest factor, physical attitude is the biggest factor which is actually different.
Your physical attitude is determined by your emotional attitude. You won't attract someone by feeling frail and sad, or scared.
You shouldn't need to have validation from others. It should be an added bonus to your already self-content behaviour.
Now, work on your self-being only and maybe a gf will come along. But don't look for a gf. The worst that men can do is actively look for a gf. When you are happy by yourself, that is when they will come around. Trust me.
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>>29016176

Talk to women, ask one of them on dates, if it goes well and you start getting closer, you can ask if you want to be bf/gf.

Physical appearance is a big help but what's most important is that you make her feel special and safe.

I'm sure with a fresh haircut, decent clothes, and a little adjusting of your posture and body language will make you handsome
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I'm going to get pizza tomorrow
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Women, are there any of you out there who really do want the whole motherly thing where you take care of your boyfriend and basically become a mother to him or is that a mental illness in itself?

I think most women today are weak women. I think if you woke up male you would kill yourself. It isn’t what you think it is, and subconsciously you want toxic and cruel men. I understand nobody is owed love and all that, but you do it to yourself as much as incels do. A relationship is meant to be giving part of yourself to someone. It isn’t always fun
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>>29016016
>>29016183
just break up with her. you owe her nothing
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Would any chicks ITT like, uhh, do these dudes?
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>>29016202
Nah only incels are weak like this
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>>29016193
I mean I'm still in college so mostly through that but I try to be friendly to strangers in general.

>>29016202
I'm a guy but I feel like it's men that want the "mommy gf" more than women wanting to be it. I want a woman who would be a good mother but that doesn't mean I need someone to do my laundry or cook literally every meal for me. Also doesn't help that I love to cook.
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Would you ever date an asian?
for girls and guys
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>>29016208
Didn’t even need to reply, retard.
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>>29016202
I have a tendency to become very motherly with partners. I don't want to be a mother to him, we're both adults and both have parents, but I tend to end up taking care of those I love.
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>>29016215
Yes. But I have to like her. If she’s a shit person I won’t waste my time on her.
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>>29016202
>take care of your boyfriend
yeah
>become a mother for him
no?
I want a relationship to be a partnership. Why would I want to be a mother to a grown man? He takes care of me, I take care of him.

You entire post is kind of schizo though sorry, it's really all over the place.

>subconsciously you want toxic and cruel men
I'm sure that's true of some mentally ill women, just as it is with mentally ill men
>you do it to yourself as much as incels do
if you're talking about somebody who dates an asshole, then yeah. It's self destructive behavior

I'm not sure how the stuff about relationships not being fun relates to any of that though and I don't know what you were trying to say with your post, sorry. I tried to answer best I could.
>>29016215
I'm not opposed to it, but I've never met one I was attracted to irl
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>talking phase with a guy
>get bored after a while when I realise that it's just me bringing all the energy into conversations and there's 0 back and forth
>guy is already acting clingy and lovey dovey "jokingly"
how do I deal with this, he's kind so I don't want to be rude but I want to be upfront
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>>29016215
That has no bearing on if I would date her or not.
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>>29016070
It’s really good but I don’t love it
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How do women even get horny?
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>>29016202
Maybe the women you’re looking for are highly educated going to school and finishing their PhD’s and making money.
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>>29016222
I think it's best to be blunt about it. That there doesn't seem to be a good spark / dynamic, that conversation isn't flowing well. Nobody's fault, sometimes people just aren't compatible.
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>>29016225
Spending time around my bf.
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is it weird if I only like the sides from a pizza place and not the actual pizza?
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just a guess though idk
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>>29016222
>He's a faggot so I want to encourage that
Don't. All guys who aren't malicious appreciate bluntness to a reasonable extent. This is something you should keep in mind in the future too.
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7-up or sprite
state gender
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>>29015325
>come to the conclusion that traditional marriage is fruitless
Good news! You're an idiot and will one day reconsider all the stupid ass conclusions you made when you were young.
Marriage is an incredibly solid plan for creating a stable life in your declining years. Living and dying alone is a terrible plan.
That said, it's still less stupid than half the reasons many people get married.

>downsides to becoming a fuckboy
It warps and erodes your sense of intimacy and builds confirmation bias for your shitty view of people. The same thing happens to cops who only ever interact with the worth filth of society. They begin to believe that everyone is like that.

>every woman I meet is so neurotic and self absorbed that they cannot handle genuine intimacy and so stick to fuckboys
>surely they aren't all insane?
Two possibilities here. One is that you've only ever met genuinely insane women. It's possible. There was an anon here who literally only ever knew the same group of people and actually believed all women outside his family were thots because he was surrounded by a culture that celebrated it. And the poor guy who lives in LA has trouble believing that the whole world isn't as insane as LA.

The second possibility is that some of the women were perfectly sane but just seemed insane to you because you two were speaking different languages. Little things matter. Pic related.
Once you're in a relationship, you learn a lot about women and interacting with them. Women often treat their emotions as being concrete and real. Men are taught to dismiss emotions for practicality. Considering how a woman feels as if it is true changes the perspective.

Everyone has their own baggage. You do too.
Often, women can't *trust* intimacy.
Of course they're afraid of pain and rejection.
If you think they all like fuckboys, that's because of the sample you're looking at.
Often, they aren't self absorbed but have to focus on themselves to protect themselves.
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>>29016225
i get reactionally horny, but it rarely happens "randomly" like with men.
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don’t start a long distant relationship and all your problems will go away
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>>29016246
>rarely happens "randomly" like with men.
I don't think I'm ever just horny.
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>>29016222
you're just going to spend weeks dropping "hints" and leave him feeling utterly humiliated when he breaks through his denial, like every other woman in history
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>>29016247
Yeah.
I'm begging her to talk to me about where our future is headed, it's been two years and she's finishing school and I have nothing tying me down. We have no reason to not live at least in the same city, if not together. But she won't hear it
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>>29016243
M
7-up tastes better
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>>29016251
that sucks Anon, I’m sorry
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>>29016246
>>29016248
I definitely do. Think of random erections during puberty for example.
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>>29015407
>there are all these women around me that
>every man I meet just wants sex!
Fucking don't seek out these people. You have to be extremely lucky to meet a decent partner while hooking up in bars.
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Ayooo I just told my crush that I like her but I also kinda told her that I'm drunk as fuck. I already confessed to her in the past but she told me that she doesn't date people who are in the same (college) department. Although even after that she kinda kept flirting(teasing?) with me.
With that being said I think there are a couple of reasons why I might have no chance
>Our other friend(male) likes me(confirmed)
>I made out with her best friend(male) while drunk
>She confided to another friend that our other friend(female) might like me
Anyway I just wanna know if there's a chance that she likes me too. I actually think I'm being delusional but please tell me otherwise. Also she hasn't responded yet cause it's like 12 am
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>>29016275
this is larp
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Femanons, what do you do after a bad first date? Would you immediately block the guy or would you let him down more nicely or even give him a second chance?
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>>29016275
Also she told me while we were drinking that it wouldn't do any good for friends in the same circle to date each other and I agreed with her(I just wanted to be agreeable ok)
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>>29016275
>>29016281
You would already know if she wanted the same thing as you.
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>>29015407
>I'm speaking extremely broadly and about western or American women specifically
Yeah no kidding.
Why do you sit here and whine and be a doomer because there's a percentage of women whose lifestyles you don't approve of? I'm annoyed by dumbass thots too, so I don't interact with them.

The most I ever have to interact with those women are at work, and if they start telling me about their hookups or bitching I tell them I'm not interested. Why are you spending your time like this?
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Should women be put on testosterone for a year so they can appreciate what men go through?
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>>29016275
I'm confused, but if she already rejected you...
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>>29016120
yes
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>>29016289
No testosterone ruins women's bodies and often makes them go infertile, plus they'll never stop growing facial hair after being on it.
It makes their clits look like micro dicks too.
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>>29015304
I have a question for the ladies:
If a man is very passionately good at eating you out in bed even moreso than he is at boinking you in bed, is this a tipoff that he's gay? I've heard girls and guys both say this.

Gentleman, you may weigh in too.
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>>29016289
The only problem men have is a money problem, you can literally buy pussy right now
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>>29016297
M, I suppose it's possible. part of what makes sex satisfying is mutual enjoyment. but if I was gay I don't think I would enjoy shoving my face into a pussy for long periods of time
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Guy with zero relationship experience here again. What exactly is flirting and when/how should I do it whenever I speak to a woman? Any good examples? Also how do I tease without going too far? Up until now I've only spoken to women on a cordial or "safe" level, though I actually began to tease and flirt(?) with a former coworker (I no longer work there) and got a small but important amount of experience. It seems she responded well since she kept approaching me and I think was acting a bit seductively? (ex. putting her finger on her lip while speaking to me). I appreciate responses from both genders.
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Guess the girls are all out partying and taking dick
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>>29016183
leave her.
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>>29016303
It's a Friday, so yeah
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>>29016204
>>29016304
But she's the first and only girlfriend I've ever had, and I'm 24. I don't ever leave my house except to see her and I have zero friends. If I break up with her, I will be 100% alone, and will likely not get anybody else.
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>>29016303
i'm here.
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>>29016303
most of them have boyfriends
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>>29016222
tell him the truth, he's getting ahead of himself/going too fast.

>>29016243
M, sprite.

>>29016265
there was almost always a reason when i did back then too

>>29016319
you can fix all that, believe in yourself and dont be a simp.
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>>29016280
I would prefer to let him down gently. I'm sure it's really hard for guys to deal with rejection, so I would be as nice about it as possible, and even make the most of the night, even if it's going nowhere, like maybe I'd consider making out with them before they drop me home, or maybe I could invite him to my club and we could end up being just good friends.

Maybe some girls would disagree, but I think friendships can blossom out of failed relationships, unless they're bad breakups, unless it's been over 5-10 years and they're completely over it, and that would be unlikely, but could work.
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>>29016300
That's a good point. No gay man would do that.
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>>29016325
yeah, we know that women cheat frequently
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>>29015353
It was awkward, but not bad. I was obviously in a little pain, and I was a little confused by that, but my mother assured me that this was normal, and that she loved me, and bought me pads and tampons.
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>>29016301
I don't have time right now so I snagged something good from the archive (not mine)

Flirting is just banter and playfulness with a slight air of sexual or romantic tension. You're teasing each other and playing at being slightly more than you are, alluding at interest in one another and fueling the flames of passion. It's supposed to be fun and relaxed for both parties, and feel good. If it doesn't you're too anxious and it's going to come across stiff and forced. Try to relax.

https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/22157862/#22158215
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>>29015304
>mfw capricorn
Women... be honest, it's over for me, right..?
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>>29016340
sounds like you're projecting, men cheat more than women.
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>>29016344
Honestly, I wouldn't about that zodiac stuff, and just focus on being the best version of yourself, then show up ready have an awesome life with a new partner. You ought to wait until you're older than 30, and invest in a house.
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>>29016344
>tfw you're Leo
if they're right you're screwed, if they're wrong, you're still screwed
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>>29016346
Yes, I'm projecting because I have never cheated, but I have been cheated on twice.
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>>29016340
No one can cheat on you if you stay single
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>>29016367
>he likes bpd women
That's on you, retard.
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>>29016346
Young women cheat more than young men, and almost everyone here is young.
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I like the kind of woman with enough muscle to just straight up kill me.
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Women, would you be freaked out if your bf referred to you as the future mother of his children?
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>>29016319
you're 24 and your gf stopped having sex with you after 6 months
you don't have a girlfriend
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>>29016364
>you're screwed
If only...
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I stopped dating because I have unrealistic expectations of relationships, and i’m too demanding. You guys can have fun while i do my internet thingy
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>>29016400
are you the faggot who was learning lisp?
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>>29016406
umm I don’t think so, I don’t really know what that is
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Do you prefer normal fries, crinkle cut, or sweet potato fries.
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>>29016414
crinkle cut is the best, same with ruffle chips. texture + oil/salt concentrates in the ridges... and now I'm hungry
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>>29016389
It would depend.

If we just started dating, it would be a little too forward.
If you proposed to me, I would have no issue with that.

You should only speak of that sort of stuff if you want to marry/have kids with a girl. Wait until after the proposal, I'd recommend not living together or having sex until marriage as this preserves the well-being of your commitment for the long term, as you'd only be having sex for the right reasons, and it wouldn't get in the way of the commitment you both have already built.
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https://youtu.be/nHqtDZv9Yzw

Lots of people post like me but they aren’t me if that makes sense
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>>29016414
All of the above, but I prefer waffle fries from Chick-Fil-A or Tater tots.
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Girls, how's life on easy mode today?
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>>29016431
I kissed my roommate's butt the other day. With how much people like to talk bad about kissing ass, it's not so bad, as long as it's not their anal cavity, but rather their cheeks.
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>>29016431
i just played vidya all day and made potato hash for dinner earlier, life of a NEET.
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>>29016293
Good girl
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I don’t think you want to know who i am, you can try to find out but things will get weird
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>>29016453
im a guy...
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>>29016448
How are you a neet when it's never been easier for girls to get easy jobs for lots of money?
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>>29016430
oooh yeah, tater tots...
but my favorite potato side has to be Japanese croquette
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>>29016455
Good guy
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>>29016444
obviously no one cares about kissing/licking ass cheeks
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>>29016457
>never been easier for girls to get easy jobs for lots of money?
this ""lack of workers"" is a scam ngl, do you really believe that?
and getting government money is comfy. i have worked a few jobs before, but there was always someone there who hated me seemingly for no reason, and i admit that i truly don't feel a need to work anymore if it's always like that.
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do you know how in quantum physics the atoms that are being observed will behave differently from when they aren’t showing they know when you are looking. Knowledge works like that
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>>29016479
>they know when you are looking
average quantum physics misunderstander
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>>29016470
For men yeah, but companies always want to hire women since it makes their gender ratio look good. And the requirements are way lower, especially for higher paying ones
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>>29016484
I don’t Care!!! I say it how I want to! my goal is to make you think not to feed you the answers
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>>29016495
you should get your quantum physics information from textbooks and not hippy youtube videos talking about the multiverse and shrooms or whatever
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>>29016504
No! the demiurge is a cat and the earth is flat
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>>29016487
i have really bad social skills thanks to having had no friends since middle school, so even if i get an interview, they never call me back lol.
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The girl I've been seeing for ~3 month's birthday is next week. I'm taking her out tomorrow for dinner and got her a house plant as a gift. I'm wondering if getting her a card as well is too overbearing? Do girls like receiving cards
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And that’s exactly why you should worship cats like the Ancient Egyptians and Turkish people do
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>>29016463
You're missing out then. You wouldn't dismiss it so lightly if you experienced it.
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>1 good thing happens
>I'm a demigod in charge of my own future
>1 bad thing happens
>everything is falling apart, I am doomed
Women, do you also feel like this sometimes?
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>>29016529
Nothing bad happens to women so no
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>>29016532
Schizo poster is here again kek
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>>29016522
three months is a solid amount of a time, go for the card, just don't be too over the top with what you write. something like "i'm glad I met you this has been a great three months, look forward to more happy birthday". ask a woman to read it before you give it to her
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This is the Image of God, not humans.
Sorry humans
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>>29016458
Those look good.
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>>29016537
Thanks!
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Femanons do you care about height?
What is the shortest a guy could be that you'd still date him if you thought he was cute and had a good personality?
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>>29016526
>>29016538
Back to /an/, catfag. God is Dog spelled backwards for a reason.
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>>29016557
Exactly, backwards.
The opposite of God.

What is the opposite of a dog? A Cat.
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I don't think the strict opposite of a dog exists as dog evolved pretty much from the same as cats up to a certain point
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>>29016556
Yeah, to some degree. In general I'd date anyone my height or taller, so the shortest I'd date is 5'6".
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>>29016556
I know some girls will say 5'8" or 6ft or bust, but I don't see it this way at all.

When I am on a date finding a nice man who I'd want to be with for the rest of my life, height is the last thing I would care about. I suppose it's good to know when reading a profile, or knowing it by meeting you, but it's not a disqualifier to me. I dated this guy who was 5'5", he was a programmer, and he loved to read and play video games, and was super cool. We dated for a whole 6 months, I thought he was worth my time, and the reason we broke up was completely unrelated to his height, as it was because I was moving and we didn't want to do a LDR.
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>>29016536
I didn't know we had a schizo poster, and I don't see how my post is schizo
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>>29016556
i feel similarly to the other femanon, shortest i'd date is 5'6" (i'm 5'5"). and i have had plenty of crushes on short guys.
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>>29016566
GODOG, combined God and Dog, is spelled the same way, whether backwards or forwards.

It would make more sense to say Dog is an anagram of God. Keep Seething CatFag.
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>>29016556
Women never go looking for tall men, they're just only attracted to tall men.
So their requirements never mention height, but it's an unspoken rule.
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Let’s settle this in /an/ then, I’m ready to start a gang war with the dogs
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>>29016601
Die
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>>29016604
women don't "go" for anyone, they typically wait to get approached/talked to by men. you know who approaches and talks to the most women? confident men who aren't insecure.
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>>29016577
>it was because I was moving and we didn't want to do a LDR
It's over, nomovebros... we lose again...
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Hello girls how has your day been?
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>>29016605
>>29016609
Plenty of dogfags would happily bite your neck off, now back to /an/ and stop shitting up the thread already. We want to talk to the ladies, not about pussy cats.
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>>29015304
girls, i blush extremely easily. is this a bad trait for guys?
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>>29016577
>When I am on a date finding a nice man who I'd want to be with for the rest of my life, height is the last thing I would care about.
and how many women conveniently just never find themselves on a date with a short man
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>>29016624
Only if you arent hot
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>>29016616
Whoa, hold on, it was him who didn't want to do an LDR. I personally wanted to, but he thought it wouldn't work. We tried it or 2 months, and he turned out to be right.
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>>29016628
>turned out to be right.
why?
did you cheat on him?
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Made a post yesterday about how I fucked up by telling the girl I was messaging that I was a virgin, when I'd actually lost it in a brief and shitty relationship that I regretted. Someone here asked me to report back.

I came clean to her, aplogised and admitted the truth. I felt a lot of immediate guilt but also relief. She says she's upset but appreciates me telling her, and that she needs time to process it. She was so polite and mature about it that it made me feel even worse for hurting her and now part of me hopes she breaks things off because now I feel I she deserves better than me, but it's her call.
I'm currently coping with all the regret, but I will deal with the consequences and become a better person from it whatever happens.
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>>29016630
Is posting like this really a good use of your time?
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>>29016639
that's not a no though

LDR never work because girls usually end up cheating on the guys, the nice ones will break up with you before they start a new relationship, and the normal ones will just let things fester while they cheat.
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>>29016622
>typical dog behavior
I’ll see you in the dog threads bitch nibba
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>>29016624
It's adorable. I dated a guy who blushed really easily in the past and it was one of my favorite things about him.
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>>29016628
Honestly, it's your fault for being a size queen who refuses to date below 5'5". If you had dated someone smaller then you could have packed him in your luggage and brought him with you.
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>>29016577
Thanks femanon, sometimes I get discouraged in dating because I just don't know what women want.
I'm shorter than all the femanons who said they just want someone as tall/ taller than them.
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Women are the reason the world is going to shit and I'll laugh in their faces from my self sustained cabin innawoods when the world is burning
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>>29016634
>telling a girl you're a virgin
That's what she's really angry about
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>>29016652
>it was one of my favorite things about him.
that and that he was 6'2
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Femanons:
I have a date with a girl that I'm really into and taking is going really good over text. My thing is, I have a form of autism and I feel like I should tell her because sometimes it affects how I am in person like I won't know what to say and will get real quiet, but I also feel like I should tell her. Would that be too much before a first date?
Pic unrelated
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>>29016663
He was 5'8" or 5'9", and pretty scrawny lol
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>>29016663
That's not even that tall. Stop whining.
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>>29016678
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>>29016678
>6'2 isn't tall
Wtf 5'7 bros, are we doomed?
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>>29016683
6'2" is a good height for fathers.
5'7" is a good height for stepfathers.
Cheer up, your time will come eventually.
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>>29016688
Will I be able to have sex with my stepdaughter?
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Can I get some advice for this scenario
>match with former coworker (seasonal college girl) on tinder
>already casual friends at work, have each other's social media, etc.
Where do I go from here? We've started chatting, but it feels so weird. Did she just swipe right as like a joke? Should I just stop beating around the bush since we already know each other and ask her out? Is that too forward?
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>>29016625
I'm just one person, I wouldn't know.
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>>29016700
Get help.
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>>29016630
No, there was no cheating on either side, physical or emotional. He just moved away and we couldn't make a LDR relationship work. I have school too, and he had some huge project. He found someone else though, as did I, so it worked out.
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>>29016700
She's probably already sucking dick bro.
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>>29016644
Guys do the same thing, stop blaming women
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>>29016695
Ask her to watch a movie with you already, dude
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>>29016707
Young guys barely cheat l
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>>29016695
there's a simple test to figure out if an action you want to take is socially acceptable: imagine explaining it to a third party. "I matched with a girl I knew on a dating app so I asked her on a date" sounds completely reasonable. If she accuses you of being weird or something for it, she is the one who is being unreasonable, not you.
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>>29016343
Thanks a bunch man.
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>>29016653
calm down buddy, I actually prefer regular and smaller dicks, because big dicks mess up your throat, and jaw. My first boyfriend had a huge cock, and my mouth would hurt so much after he shoved his dick down my throat. Never again.
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>>29016725
What in the world are you talking about?
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>>29016725
He was talking about height.
And also making a joke.
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>>29016656
They say that as a means of a broad security measure to find a good guy. It's dumb, I know, just know the ones that won't date you because of your size are the shallow ones you need to stay away from. I had classmates in school like that. Sharing the locker with them was such a pain. I'm sure it's no different when loud football players make trouble for all the other guys in the boys locker rooms.
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>>29016725
This has to be male larp, otherwise my opinion of women just dropped.
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>>29016652
actually, now that you say that, i remember girls did seem to obsess over it back in high school, if ever they did something and it made me blush. food for thought, thanks anon

>>29016663
luckily i am actually 6'2" so it sounds like i have a lot going for me

>>29016678
actually made me rofl
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>>29015304
What does it mean when a girl ends some of her sentences with "-"?
ie:
>Ohhhh thats so cool-
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>>29016660
Good. I hope you get a dog too, and enjoy playing video games with your imaginary friends going on endless adventures and hanging out with lovely girls who are worth your time. That, and maybe look into having a few hobbies.
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>>29016733
>just know the ones that won't date you because of your size are the shallow ones you need to stay away from.
Thanks I believe this too, sometimes I just forget about that.
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>>29016700
They don't remain cute and young forever. Best you keep the memory and move on.
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Women

How can you differentiate between healthy dominant (assertive) and toxic dominant (controlling).
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>>29016714
Yes they do
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girls, how'd you feel if you discovered your bf was mad horny for one of your friends?

asking for a friend haha
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>>29016743
You'll find those girls like sharks online. Unless you're on hinge, or some Christian dating site, don't bother with that mess, and stick to finding someone nice offline. Join a club on meetup, there are singles groups and others for people like you.
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>>29016664
Any femanons?
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i just got a cat video ad on YouTube cause of my 4chan posts
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>>29016710
She once mentioned she wanted to go to this donut shop near me. I think she might have been dropping a hint back then. Would that be a cute thing to do for a first date?

It's so weird. I just can't imagine me being her type.
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Women
If you heard the tales of my adventures, of my struggles, of my sacrifices; you'd want to be my woman.
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>>29016759
I'd break up with my bf.
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Women how would you feel if your boyfriend had an emergency girlfriend ready in case you break up?
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>>29016730
Packing someone into luggage is no joke. People die.
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>>29016756
Assertiveness is dominance without the aggression and excessive ruggedness that girls don't like. I like it when a guy is capable of being dangerous, taking charge being responsible/accountable for his problems and duties, as I would with the kids and the home. Also, working well under pressure, being there for me and the kids, and treating me right in bed. Those are good examples, as opposed to treating me like property, actually being dangerous and creepy like some kind of criminal or psycho, choking me in bed, yelling in my face.

Then you have the nice guy syndrome, it's toxic to pretend to be nice to get what you want, but it's assertive to know how your feel about things, and own what you are and what you do, without overdoing it, showing who you genuinely are, as opposed to only presenting what you might be.

Also, Guys, don't choke your girlfriend, it's a lawsuit waiting to happen, even if they want it, which if they do, they're crazy. I tried leaning into it when I was a lesbian bottom, not worth it.
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>>29016766
too much for a first or second date Imo, let her warm up to you first.
generally mental disorders/developmental issues should be mentioned at some point, but preferably too late rather than too soon for sure.
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>>29016778
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If a woman calls you cute, is she attracted to you?
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>>29016778
List them then. We'll be the judge of your relationship resume. Imagine trying to pull this shit at a job interview, we want to see your results if you're gonna brag openly about 'em.

If you're gonna do the talk, then you need to show you can do the walk.
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>>29016790
>but preferably too late rather than too soon for sure.
Damn, this sounds kinda shitty
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>>29016780
wow, harsh
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>>29016756
>healthy dominant (assertive)
not coming across as insecure, chill. and maybe even having a bit of a natural leader personality, people want to be around you.
>toxic dominant (controlling)
not chill, gets easily offended at small things, always needs to prove himself to others, etc. but to be honest i haven't met a lot of guys like this, maybe i've just had good luck.
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>>29016797
No, a guy who is obsessed with other women in his life is a waste of time.
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>>29016796
well a lot of people think that this is a very private thing that shouldn't be talked about on the very first dates. if you talk about it on the first date, you might give them the image that your autism is your personality.
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>>29016759
I'd sit down and have a discussion with both of them in the room. An Adult Conversation, to relieve the tension in the air. Something needs to be done, or the relationship is going to be too chaotic for me to want to stay. I don't think I'd want it to end in a threesome.
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>>29016798
>maybe even having a bit of a natural leader personality

nta but I see this kind of thing in some guys that want to "lead" their packs of friends, and it always screams insecurity to me. like you said, "always needs to prove himself to others".
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>>29016787
If I felt like I was replaceable to someone, I wouldn't date them.
>>29016794
Not necessarily.
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>>29016803
I-he isn't obsessed with her, he just has naughty thoughts when he sees her in those tight tops and small waist and
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>>29016809
it depends, are you wanting to lead others because you want to be "above them", or are others naturally coming to you.
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>>29016814
You can have those thoughts when single, I'd really not waste my time with a guy like that.
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>>29016815
sometimes some guys just wanna go out and others simply change plans according to what they want without consulting, Im referring to that kind of stuff. In those cases I leave the group (only for that get out)
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I love how when every single study states that men cheat more than women, men reeeeee and go on some "w-well women cheat more akthully cuz of deir ohrbiteers!!!" tirade
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I don’t need a girlfriend I have to fix my life and make money
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>best friend has DID
>gf is BPD
why did I get emotionally attached to these people I just want to have a normal life
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>>29016820
These strawmen do not exist. Log off this website. Touch grass.
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>>29016823
Are they both actually diagnosed by multiple professionals or are they just saying that? DID is extremely rare and it's been one of those quirky illnesses to lie about in recent years
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>>29016820
>I love how when every single study states that men cheat more than women
this is not an oppression olympics, we all suffer in this world together™
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>>29016828
I would not be surprised if they are faking it to be honest.
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>>29015304
Ladies! Would you date a man with a tulpa? or is thos shit im gonna have to keep to myself?
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How do I deal with women approaching me? I've never had a girlfriend before, and have never mustered the courage to ask anyone out. I always just figured I was ugly, but after losing some weight, and focusing solely upon myself I've gotten more attractive. Maybe it's just the confidence I've gotten, I'm not sure.

A coworker goes out of her way on her breaks to see me, and try to talk to me. A cashier wrote a heart next to my name, and was clearly nervous. I often catch myself locking eyes with them (but this hardly counts). It's just odd, it's like as soon as I stop chasing, they begin chasing after me.

I've never had a girlfriend in my life, and I was just wondering should I "put myself out there"? I don't think a girl will ever be bold enough to ask me out by herself, so should I try it out?

I'm kinda scared of girls bros, I don't want to embarrass myself.
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>>29016833
Ask for the paper that confirms it
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>>29016829
That's how it really should be, but it's so hilarious to me whenever women bring up an issue here and men instantly assume the woman cheated, many such cases but my brother in christ statistically YOU are more likely to cheat than the woman.
>>29016824
You'd be surprised at how many men actually believe that strawman. The other day there was a thread on this board about a guy saying that he hates women because they cheat more, someone showed him studies that men cheat more and he was like "nuh uh oribiters"
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>>29016807
>if you talk about it on the first date, you might give them the image that your autism is your personality.
I get this line of thinking, I guess just for me, it will just help explain some things I do or why I don't catch on as easily.
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Ladies (female humans), would you date a man who was originally born in one world, but was then reborn in another world after being hit by a truck?
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>>29016845
Idk? That doesn't give much information on them at all.
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>>29016845
you mean a man in a coma?
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>>29016843
>many such cases but my brother in christ statistically YOU are more likely to cheat than the woman.
and men are statistically more likely to suffer stranger violence, but most women would make you believe they're at most risk in public situations.

>That's how it really should be
then why do feminists propose that we live in a world where men live with so much privilege?
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Is it healthy to have sex while stressed?
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>>29016834
You need to stick to imaginary friends, because tulpas are something you don't want in your life. I would recommend moving on from the tulpa, and then get into dating.
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>>29016839
>women approaching me?
Hooool'up we got a Chad right here
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>>29016854
What are the downsides of tulpas?
NTA but I always found them quite intresting
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would you date a guy that fused with an insect and got a cool body that he can use to fly to beehives to get you honey so you can bake cakes for the imaginary family in his head
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>>29016848
Men are more likely to suffer stranger violence, absolutely yes, but women are more likely to suffer sexual violence/kidnapping/etc, they're not at risk so to speak but they do need to be absolutely vigilant and on guard.
>then why do feminists propose that we live in a world where men live with so much privilege?
Because new wave feminists are dumb and out of touch with reality. I will say that men have SOME social privileges above women (a lot of women are seen as dumb at first glance, etc etc, dumb shit like that) but not much else, the rest are uniquely men and uniquely women struggles.
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>>29016854
I have had my tulpa for close to a decade, no way am I getting rid of her, at this point she's a core part of me and my own decision making.
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>Riding in the cab of a truck again on the way to jobsite
>coworkers start talking about sex and body count
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>>29015304
Garbage ship
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>>29016877
What kind of job?
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>>29016868
>Men are more likely to suffer stranger violence, absolutely yes, but women are more likely to suffer sexual violence/kidnapping/etc, they're not at risk so to speak but they do need to be absolutely vigilant and on guard.
ofc not gonna say women aren't at risk, but lots of women say "you men don't know how it feels to be scared walking at night by yourself!!!" when we are assaulted lots of times or violent men target us more easily because "you dont hit women, but do hit men"

I remember seeing some video of a russian stomping another guy's head to oblivion while his gf watched, the stomped one probably said something to the other but he was if not killed, impaired for life. we are targets for commonplace violence, but lots of women don't see that.

>Because new wave feminists are dumb and out of touch with reality. I will say that men have SOME social privileges above women (a lot of women are seen as dumb at first glance, etc etc, dumb shit like that) but not much else, the rest are uniquely men and uniquely women struggles.

ok, we agree
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Femanons should I go to a party by myself?
I really want to meet new people.
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>>29016860
They're beyond imaginary friends, it's like creating another living being, that has wants and needs. People create them when they live in isolation, as is common for the Tibetan monks that came up with the concept using ancient ideas.

but imaginary friends are better because you don't need to do weird rituals to bring them to life, you just need to use your imagination. With Tulpas there's extra occult steps you don't wanna get mixed up in. Ask about Tulpamancy on /x/ or research if you want to learn more, but the skinny, is it's demonic in nature.
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>>29016877
Were they promoting it? Talking shit about whores? Or bragging about being one?
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>>29016891
Why not? Someone who's secure enough to not need someone to accompany them sure is attractive to say the least.
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>>29016886
not as garbage as this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5TnAYnz9AA
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>>29016759
Hurt. If it's so intense that you feel the need to mention it instead of just crushing the feelings in the industrial sized meat grinder in your brain maybe you should break up with your girlfriend.
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>>29016887
City parks & recreation, all dozen of us are guys
>>29016898
Just general virtue signaling and drama with exs
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>>29016891
Totally. Just show up, and start a conversation with somebody.
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>>29016902
Ngl that one makes more sense to me. Better than Chef/Izzy and Chris/Lindsay. Ew.
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Girls, how would you comfort a stressed out guy?
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>>29016891
Why not? If you were invited and you want to go, go. Doesn't matter that you don't have someone to go with. You'll meet people there.
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>>29016839
hold eye contact for a bit longer, check youtube for signs they find you attractive, and if they do a few just ask for their number
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>>29016908
What'd do you think of Coderra?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6rjkxkbxmo
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>>29016916
oh and dont forget to smile otherwise you come across as creepy. and dont be "needy" nor a "nice guy"
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>>29016911
Is he stressed about something I can help with or something that's out of both of our control?
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>>29016919
Sierra should be in a high security prison
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Women, are there ever times that make you think "I am SO glad I'm a woman right now."
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>>29012838
>>29012838
someone give me advice on this
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>>29016923
Out of our control.
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>>29016911
It depends. If they're a stranger, probably not, but If they were like sobbing in the middle of public, I'd probably ask if they were okay, and maybe give them a hug and talk it out.

If you need help, you should seek it. Go check out 7Cups.
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>>29016853
I don't see why not, definitely makes me feel better.
Obviously don't fuck randos.
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>>29016928
Okay. Well first I'd ask if he wants to talk about it and if not I would make sure his basic needs are taken care of (feed him, give him a massage, might suggest a hot shower) And then I'd sit with him and watch one of his comfort shows or movies.
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>>29016924
But they ended up together at the end. It's canon.
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>>29016911
Depends on what's going on and who is he.

If it's my bf - ask him if he wants to talk about it. If he doesn't, either do something fun to ignore the problem, or suck his dick and/or feed him. Usually those things cheer him up. Also cuddles, warm baths and stuff like that.
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>>29016911
>>29016928
im a guy but i fucking love massages, or just chill and cuddle on the couch
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DM'd a girl 3 weeks ago and she never responded (Just "Hey Anonette, did you survive finals?"). But she always looks at my story. Should I try messaging her again?
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>>29016925
Not purely being a woman. But when I benefit from pretty privilege there's a tiny voice in my head that says "aren't you glad you look the way you do? They wouldn't have done that/given that to you if you weren't skinny and marginally attractive."
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>>29016916
>>29016921
Thanks will do, and yeah I'm not gonna be desperate. I think that's a universal red flag.
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>>29016938
It's still fucked up imo
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Women what's your body count?

Men what's your body count?
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>>29016959
Everything about TDI is fucked up, except for Ella. She was the nice one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMN-YPlC-4M
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>>29016974
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>>29016974
Define body count. Are you referring to sexual intercourse only?
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>>29016974
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yea dude just put on a fake smile no one will notice, and pretend you don’t care that’ll work. Women hate men that clearly communicate with them and are just honest to them from the beginning
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>>29016974
>Women what's your body count?
Two
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Is it fucked up if a girl breaks up with a guy and he mentions after (not in a vindictive way but casual) that he is gonna try to date a specific girl?

This happened with my now ex gf a while back, she broke up with me and I said I was gonna date another girl I knew and she started crying and said it was fucked up that I had a plan right after things ended. I feel like it's fucked up for her to be butthurt because she was the one who wanted to end things. I still wanted to date her and told her if she wanted to stay together that was my preference but otherwise I was going to pursue another girl and that really hurt her feelings; she said it means I'm not serious about getting her back if I have plans to rebound so fast.

IMO that is just weirdly controlling and vindictive, YOU can't break up with ME then get asspained about literally anything I do at that point, since if you actually wanted to stay together you could just not break up with me.

I thought it might be an age thing (she is 18 and I am 29, so breakups are more casual at my age and guys less likely to chase an exgf obsessively) but this actually happened to me last year. A 31yo female penpal I was flirting with was supposed to come stay with me for a week but she chickened out and flaked when she met a different guy locally she liked more, but after things ended with him she became furious that I got a girlfriend almost immediately and started insulting my gf all the time. It was like she just wanted to keep me around as a perpetually single backup nibba or just toy with me.

Is it common for girls to do this kind of shit? Seems extremely evil desu.
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>>29016974
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Idk, I've only had vaginal sex with one girl, but apparently girls want you to include every girl you've fingered, so 3.
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>>29016974
God gave me one body and I'm content. I do have two arms, and legs. And ears and eyes and nostrils and balls and bums and cheeks and sets of fingers, and toes.
Why u ask
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>>29017005
>she is 18 I am 29
anon
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>>29017005
I'd frankly assume you were cheating on me if you said you were going to date another girl during a break up.
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>>29016820
new studies show that women cheat more actually
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>>29016975
You're not wrong. I liked Crimson and Ennui though. I really liked Gwen at first but they made her a shitty person like the rest of them. Oh well.
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>>29016820
Young women cheat more actually, and women are peak attractiveness in youth and they don’t have copes like money like men do
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>>29017005
>29 and 18
>He's less mature than her
There is no reason to mention who you will be moving on to other than to be hurtful.
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I see the Jannie woke up. Goodmorning sunshine, little bit late now
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>>29016820
Times have changed, ya old hag. Get on with the new shit. Feminism has been going on for over a century. More than 50% of the world is women. Touch grass, (and yourself if you like ;))
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>>29016974

M, 5.

One was my first gf in college. She was alright but she was a BIG girl. One was a girl I met studying abroad (not native, fellow student) One was a woman I dated but didn't want to commit to. One was a long-distance gf who I wish I could have done better with. And one was a Tinder hookup that left me feeling so gross I swore off dating apps.
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>>29016974
21 if we're being inclusive of contact other than piv
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>>29017029
>one was a Tinder hookup that left me feeling so gross I swore off dating apps

Tell us more tell us more does she have her own car
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>>29017023
Oh yeah, C&E are easily the most well-developed and likeable characters and realistic for that matter, even if they're written to be a running joke, though Ella's my personal favorite.

And you're right about Gwen, they did trash her character reeeeally bad. I chalk that up to shitty writing, but the show was written to be bad to begin with, so it's one of those so bad it's good trashy teenage drama. TDI is basically a brutal cartoon version of Survivor, so that checks out.
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>>29016839
Seems like you and I are in the exact same position bro. I recommend looking up some "handsome game" videos on youtube. I've learned quite a bit on how a good looking dude is supposed to act around women, like being chill and humble instead of trying too hard. Here's a good video I saw lately :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH-WUURJqhE

Here's to both of us getting lucky with women sometime soon.
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>>29017032
>inclusive of contact
Do handshakes count as contact?
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Are you shy janny? Why don’t you ever say hi?
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>>29016974
Male, 0. Born good looking but unfortunately a social trainwreck. Working on it though.
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>>29017043
If you don't touch genitals it doesn't count.
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I'm going to bed.
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>>29017053
Boi.
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>>29017005
>I said I was gonna date another girl I knew and she started crying and said it was fucked up that I had a plan right after things ended.
She's right. It's always fucked up to tell her about it.
It's also fucked up to not be emotionally invested in the relationship at all. It shouldn't be like wanting your favorite flavor of energy drink but knowing what other one you'll try if the store is out. You obviously don't care about these women at all.

>she said it means I'm not serious about getting her back if I have plans to rebound so fast.
>IMO that is just weirdly controlling and vindictive
Yes. That's actually manipulative and more stupidly fucked up. She wouldn't be the first 18 year old girl who dumped a guy to see how much he liked her.
I've experienced a girl playing around the corners of shit tests like this, fishing for attention. If they're worth attention, give it to them. Shockingly, that child isn't.

>she became furious that I got a girlfriend almost immediately and started insulting my gf all the time. It was like she just wanted to keep me around as a perpetually single backup nibba or just toy with me.
Maybe. I've seen more sane versions of this. Where they want you to want them and when you don't it hurts. But then some women get a touch catty or needy and some get crazier. It depends on how they handle the hurt. But the hurt is reasonable. I've felt it but been man enough not to show it.

But you seem entirely oblivious to the concept that a girl can tell you she doesn't want you but still be hurt when you don't want her.
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>>29017040
>TDI is basically a brutal cartoon version of Survivor, so that checks out
Very true. I was the same age as the characters when the first season came out and there had never been anything like it it was wild. I was almost surprised CN showed it.
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Post hair color
Is the hair on your head the same color as your pubes?
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Whatever, but. We both know I’m a legend and how deep this really goes
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Yes
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>>29017067
Hair is dark brown, and I don't have pubes.
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>>29017039

Her room was disgusting, she chugged a 1 liter Mountain Dew during our date, and she wanted to watch Hunter X Hunter after we banged. She could moan pretty good though, I appreciated that.
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>>29017067
I think my pubes are darker than my natural hair color.
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>>29017067
Dark brown
Idk maybe maybe not, my pubes may be literally black.
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you don’t want to dance with the devil? I don’t blame you but still I’m offended
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>>29017042
I'm sorry but watching "handsome game" videos sounds so fucking gay LOL, but I watched the video you linked and I get the point of it, good insight. I've never considered the value of looks, and the value of how you carry yourself.

Cheers bro, and thanks.
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>>29017063
Same here. It holds up as a pretty original, decent cartoon, despite it's trashiness, and even if a bunch of Canadians wrote it.
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>>29017083
I'm thinking based
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>>29017083
This girl could be me if it was apple juice and Fullmetal alchemist instead
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>>29017083
The Mountain Dew part is disgusting yeah, but HxH is based
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>We have a case for you.
>it’s Jester
>is it paranormal?
>we dont know, it’s everything
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>>29017121
What about tap water?
Also other anime options?
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My posts represent freedom, you show this to kids. You’ve been doing this before the internet age.
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Anyways I have to go. I see you glowies
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>>29017122
I've heard good things just haven't ended up watching it yet.
>>29017140
We have really hard water, it's better filtered. And my taste varies. Most recent thing I watched was Spy x Family. Was cute.
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>>29017062
>But you seem entirely oblivious to the concept that a girl can tell you she doesn't want you but still be hurt when you don't want her.
This makes me incredibly angry and misogynistic desu.

I don't know any guy who is like this.

If you break up with me you have the power and you are hurting me and I am allowed to do whatever I want with other women. I am allowed to bang your sister if I want.

Breaking up with someone and then getting mad at their dating choices is like being morally outraged at a slave trying to escape

If you want to end things then you aren't allowed to have your feelings hurt by literally anything I do.
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>>29017212
How are you still not getting it.
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>>29016974
F, 8.
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>>29017020
What on earth is wrong with this? Is it bad for a guy to have a backup?

There is an unfair asymmetry here. Women have backups by default bc they're constantly getting messaged by thirsty nibbas on insta etc. It is also common for a woman to break up psychologically with a guy weeks before she actually does IRL and mourn the relationship while still dating and the guy doesn't notice until she ends it and then she'll be in some new guy's bed the next day while he is an incel for a year. Men (esp inexperienced men) are more likely to get tunnel vision and obsess over their gf, and that means they have a harder time getting a rebound unless they cultivate them while just talking to girls who are potential options while in the relationship. It's not cheating, it's just immunizing yourself against becoming an incel and stopping her from having power over you bc she thinks she can get a new guy more easily.

I just date the same way women do. I always have three girls I can fuck the moment she decides to end shit. She doesn't get to have any power over me bc of her harem of guys who are ~just friends~ but flirt with her all the fucking time (even if she pretends to discourage them and claims she's loyal).

You can't control a girl or make her monogamous these days, you can just even the playing field. If a girl gets butthurt over basic self protection that's on her.
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I'm a woman in my late 20s. I suck at dating because of my sperginess and mental issues (depression, anxiety, ADHD). I've never progressed into an actual relationship cause guys always dump me early on. I want to be loved so bad but I fear a real relationship is not in the cards for me. Should I give up?
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>>29017256
is it right after they fuck you usually that they end things?
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>>29016974
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>>29017001
unironically true
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>>29017256

Don't give up, hun. As long as you remain childless there will be a never ending stream of men willing to give you a shot
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>>29017263
First guy I dated yeah, he broke it off fairly soon after that
Second guy I dated we never had sex
Third guy, no
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>>29017077
>>29017092
This is 4chan, where is the aryan master race?
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>>29017255
No. Have your backup. But it's douchey to tell the girl you just broke up with who your backup is. It's completely unnecessary the only reason to say it is to hurt her feelings. It seems immature and spiteful.
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>>29017290
>where is the aryan master race?
I'm Italian, Hitler considered Italians Aryans.
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>>29017290
men are meant to have pale skin and brown/dark brown hair though, blonde men look feminine.
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>>29016974
f
0
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>>29016974
I'll tell you where the bodies are buried!
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>>29017256
I think you're doing better than I am honestly. Guys want to stay with me and try to, but they're not the right guys and I've wasted literal years on these people. It's better that they know quickly that it isn't going to work. It makes me think you're attracting a more mature put together guy but you haven't found the one who clicks with you yet. Don't give up.
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>>29016925
idk i think im doomed to be treated as a child forever
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>>29017306
*never
Oops
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>>29017284
Why do they say they are leaving?

Are you good looking would you say?

Men put up with a lot of shit from good looking women.
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>>29016911
weed and a nap?
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>>29017291
1) she broke up with me. I feel like the person getting broken up with is allowed to be a lot more spiteful in the breakup lol
2) I didn't even say it spitefully, it was kind of a casual comment I didn't give much thought and she just started foaming at the mouth
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>>29017320
>I feel like the person getting broken up with is allowed to be a lot more spiteful in the breakup lol
Immature take. Being spiteful does nothing but make you look bad.
>I didn't even say it spitefully, it was kind of a casual comment I didn't give much thought and she just started foaming at the mouth
>casual comment
Why are you trying to discuss who you're going to date next with a girl who just broke up with you? That's stupid.
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>>29017270
I really don't want to have a never ending stream of men. Dating is hard, rejection is inevitable but I'm too sensitive to deal with constant break ups
>>29017313
They all tried letting me down easy by giving vague non-answers, you know - it's not you it's me, I just want to be alone right now, I'm not ready for a relationship, stuff like that.

>Are you good looking would you say?
Nah. Totally average.
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>men ahould aupport women's right to abort

Why tho?
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>>29017255
You honestly just seem incredibly fucked up, any girl without a thousand mental issues would stay away from a dude like you.
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>>29017333
Are you fat? When men treat girls poorly it's usually bc they are fat desu
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>>29017343
Nope
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>>29017290
Ask them lol
I'm pale with brown hair and green eyes, it's a pretty combo in my opinion.
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>>29017291
>But it's douchey to tell the girl you just broke up with who your backup is.
what if the girl was a douche? would it be wrong then
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>>29017350
Would it not be better to leave them with the impression that they might have made a mistake because you handled it so well instead of reinforcing that they made the right decision by acting like a bratty little boy?
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>>29017365
pretty sure you are his ex given how upset you are
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>>29017350
You're still an asshole fuckboi
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>>29017255
Good lord this man is dropping some straight truth.

Narcissistic women will 100% go ape shit if you try to keep female friends for this very reason. It all just clicked for me.
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>>29017340
Because women shouldn't have any responsibility while destroying society.
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>>29017212
>you aren't allowed to have your feelings hurt
Not only are they *allowed* to have those feelings. Those feelings are completely valid and justified.
They just are also fucking irrelevant to at that point.

She will feel whatever she feels. If she chooses to share her feelings with you, she can. Just like you felt like you would try to date that other girl and chose to share those feelings.
Neither one of you is under any obligation to act in regards to the feelings of someone who you aren't in a relationship with.

As I said earlier, telling her that you don't care and are immediately going to ask another girl out might be considered a dick move. And telling a guy that he's supposed to try to get you back after you've dumped him might be a dick move.
So maybe avoid being a dick. But feel whatever you feel.

But people are *ALLOWED* to experience emotions that you don't approve of anon.
Being rejected by someone who you don't want shouldn't hurt but it often does.

>I don't know any guy who is like this
It's happened to me. When some lovely girl who is a terrible fit and I wouldn't date even if she asked me instead is instantly repulsed when she thinks I'm going to ask her out, that shit hurts. It doesn't make sense but it happens. Pretending that it can't or that it's purely intentional will just warp your mindset.

>Breaking up with someone and then getting mad at their dating choices is like being morally outraged at a slave trying to escape
I'm pretty sure this literally happened. Like, kind slave owners whose small farms were crippled by their slaves leaving. Or with Greek and Roman slaves.
Just saying.
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>>29017292
Are you a pervert? All the Italians I know are obsessed with sex.
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>>29017382
NTA, but I'm italian and I was made obsessed with sex and kinks by my ex girlfriend
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>>29017382
No, I don't think I am now, but when I was a teenager I kind of was, had a lot of friends with benefits and a gf back then.
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Women

Whenever I get off, I ruin the orgasm (it releases pressure form my balls but doesn't dump dopamine in my brain so I can focus on my scholarship).

I only fully orgasm when a woman brings me to it. I live in a state of constant horniness.

I am 9/10 hot and extremely intelligent and successful (but obviously weird in this one respect)

How would you feel about thus arrangement?
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>>29017378
he said being a fat ugly neet
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>>29017382
Americans are far, far more sex obsessed than italians in my experience.
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>>29017389
I'm not fat ugly or a neet, women don't want to have the responsibility of having children while racking up body counts that would give their great grandmother a heart attack.
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>>29017388
sounds like work no thanks
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>>29017374
Men do the same thing
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>>29017393
why do you whine like a bitch go outside with your whore grandma
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>>29017255
>asymmetry here. Women have backups by default
Yes.
And if she is in a relationship with that backup a day after the break up, her ex and others suggest and goddip that she probably was sleeping with him before the breakup.

Trust me. I've been subjected to overhearing this scenario many fucking times.

The only asymmetry is that guys don't usually do it.

>>29017291
>But it's douchey to tell the girl you just broke up with who your backup is. It's completely unnecessary the only reason to say it is to hurt her feelings. It seems immature and spiteful.
Also his. Women usually don't do this but idk some burn clothes too.

>>29017350
>>29017320
>I feel like the person getting broken up with is allowed to be a lot more spiteful in the breakup
Being immature and spiteful is never a good look. Again, you're allowed to be a dick.
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>>29017395
Well, the last woman I was with was totally into orgasn control so we worked it out.
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>>29017400
Why do you seethe when I call out whores?
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>>29017398
Men do the same thing because there is no reason any sane man would put up with your bullshit without wanting to fuck you.

We aren't stupid.

There are a million reasons a woman would want to befriend a man that don't involve sex. There are zero reasons for the opposite.
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This thread makes me so grateful of my boyfriend every time I post. You guys are so fucked up, vile and unhealthy it's unreal.
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>>29017256
Same anon - any advice on how I can get a man to actually want to stay with me?
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>>29017406
Men are the ones that want female friends and then get pissed if their gfs have a male friend(s)
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>>29017374
The prob is women are more verbally adroit than men and are good at maintaining innocence/plausible deniability about being loyal while creating space for men to court them while they still have a bf.

They will let a guy flirt with them and be like "ur so funny Tyler but I would never date u I love Matt" and then break up with Matt to suck Tyler's cock a week later. I know bc I have been both Tyler and Matt. All women are like this, slutty girls and innocent girls, smart girls and dumb girls, rich girls and poor girls.

In fact, most of the women I've dated I stole from another guy at the end of a relationship or immediately after a breakup. It's in fact way easier to get a taken girl than a single woman bc her guard isn't as up. It's actually p easy to score a girl out of your league by stealing her from a guy who isn't giving her something she wants but you are able to provide.

Women hate it when men figure this out and do the same thing just by having female friends we very lightly flirt with to create tension and space for potential rebound. Because they want to live in their fucking smorgasbord of potential backups and rebounds while leaving their poor exes ronery and desperate to keep the relationship.
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>>29017413
No they want a harem. They're just not alpha enough to admit that to themselves.
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>>29017410
your bf is a breakup or a couple of bad days away from being like us :^]
all men are
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>>29017392
Really? Americans are puritans imo
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>>29017404
huh? you were the one responding like seething incel. you guys dont even notice anymore
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>>29017414
NTA but we're not. You just choose women like this.
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>>29017256
>Should I give up?
Nah, trust me, it is entirely possible to discover matches thst you wouldn't have ever imagined.
You emotional issues are definitely going to be a hurdle and limit your pool to those who can handle it. But there's no reason to give up.
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>>29017417
No, you guys are just shit.
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>>29017414
So, I just got out of my first long term relationship. She admitted to having these sort of romantic affairs every now and again and I'm 90% sure she did something sexual with a guy over the internet.

I stole her from another guy without realizing that's what I was doing. She was also horrifically envious and paranoid about me cheating on her because I'm extremely good looking and charismatic, however I didn't once act on temptation. I was loyal.

Here's my question ... do you really have to go find an 18 year old virgin to avoid repeating this cycle?
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>>29015325
I mean I doubt reckless hedonism will fix your issues but have at it if you like
>>29015359
>What message would a guy want to find in his notebook from a stranger?
Tamagotchi shop codes
>>29015394
>His virginity is a symptom of how unattractive he is
brutal
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>>29017428
>do you really have to go find an 18 year old virgin to avoid repeating this cycle?
NTA but no, you don't.
You have to stop going after taken women, if a woman shows herself to be disloyal you already know everything that you need to know about her before you enter a relationship with her.
You have to learn to recognize red flags, such as "being horrifically envious, paranoid about you cheating on her". You need to be a healthy man and date healthy women.
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>>29015563
NAG but you must have some wild charisma or something if you're not actually good looking
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>>29015780
>what is the sluttiest thing you have done
M, fapped to hentai
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>>29017424
if you never chose him he would be like us, or maybe he is but he doesn't tell you his thoughts
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>>29017368
Not upset, just making a point. Think about it. How do you want to be remembered? As a mature guy she might have been too quick to dismiss or an angry little boy who she was right to throw away? Being spiteful doesn't do what he thinks it does.
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>>29017440
M
I raise my sleeves to show my arms sometimes. I used to always do that for a while, then I got used to it and now only do it occasionally. It does get you attention.
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>>29015847
/wagiecel/, being NEET is a luxury
>>29016011
As a loner chainsmoker, no, smoking is retarded, you don't have to smoke cigarettes to talk to people and socialise
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Guys, would you date an african girl?
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>>29016120
I walked to the store to buy vodka during my shift if that counts
>>29016215
M, yes, I have
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>>29017414
>The prob is women are more verbally adroit than men and are good at maintaining innocence/plausible deniability about being loyal while creating space for men to court them while they still have a bf.
Riiiiight. That's why we call women "players". As in "Don't hate the player, hate the game."
Brilliant.

>>29017414
>All women are like this
No. They aren't.

>>29017422
>You just choose women like this.
This.

>>29017428
>do you really have to go find an 18 year old virgin to avoid repeating this cycle?
Like the other as non said, no. You just have to be aware of who you pursue, pay attention to them, and make solid choices. Usually.
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>>29017418
Puritans are sex obsessed. They're just not fucking.
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>>29017450
Depends, do you mean black?
No.
Do you mean a White girl from South Africa?
Yes, that would make me very happy because I love White South Africans like the Boers, they are very fun people.
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>>29017428
I used to be super trad or whatever but I have had a manwhore phase recently and have been with 80+ women now and here is my take:

the girl who just did this to me was 18yo and I was her second sexual partner. Inexperienced girls will pair bond more strongly in theory, but young girls are also more fickle and easily impressed by new and shiny things.

Also if you are a weird autistic nibba then innocent loyal church girls won't like you as much as neurotic unstable bitches. And they will be less fun in bed usually.

in my exp, if you don't want her to cheat on you then 23-27 is the golden age. Old enough to not be super flakey/inconsistent and to vaguely want a husband but not an old maid who is bitter towards men. Past 27 they become horrible femcel viragoes who expect 6/6/6 superman. Before 23 you get low standards but zero loyalty.

you want a girl who you are very sexually compatible with, who has a similar sense of humor, who respects your values and aesthetic, and who can easily become logistically interdependent with you. I have not successfully found a woman like that but I am a niche dude
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>>29016839
Just talk to them like you would anyone else
>I was just wondering should I "put myself out there"?
If you want to
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>>29017466
>23-27
I cheated when I was 25
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>>29017450
no
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>>29016902
Chris/Chef is kino though (and Harold/Leshawna and Duncan/Courtney)
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>>29017466
I feel like this is the natural path for me as well. I was very traditional and wanted to uphold an ethical standard that she simply didn't.

I have not so much given up as learned to accept the female nature for what it is and to allow my own nature the freedom society denied it. What's your experience with tinder and whatnot? I know I'll crush it immediately but I'm honestly a little concerned about the types of women who use that shit.

General advice?
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>>29016975
>She was the nice one
Lindsay was also a sweetheart
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>>29017484
Harold is a simp/orbiter with a fetish. Leshawna deserves better. Duncan and Courtney deserve each other though.
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>>29017476
Are you proud of it?
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>>29016243
M, sprite gang
>>29017107
Don't deal with the devil
>>29017340
I wish I'd been aborted
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>>29017450
I'm going to be honest with you, bro, if you spend enough time around them you realize that they're really not the same species.

I would fuck one but the thought of impregnation one horrifies me.
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>>29017410
>You guys are so fucked up, vile and unhealthy it's unreal
Fuck off then bitch
>>29017445
Based
I do this too, does this make me a whore?
>>29017450
Sure, I have
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>>29017494
Of course not.
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Men and women of ATOGA, should people who play loud music from their cars in cities be put to death or merely given life in prison? Clearly these animals have failed to show even the tiniest consideration for other people and thus are completely incapable of prosocial behavior, so there is no point in allowing them to continue participating in society.
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>>29017450
No, but I'd be fwb with one. I prefer white girls, though I'd also date a Latina.
t. Pale hispanic dude
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>>29017508
Wear earplugs if it bothers you that much
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>>29017508
If you get annoyed by that I think it's a you problem. People who play music on their phones or loudly facetime in stores or other public areas are the real menace.
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>>29017513
>loud car drives down block
>reach for ear plugs
>car is gone before the plugs are in
>repeat 300 times per day
great idea
>>29017514
it's the same thing
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>>29017508
You'll get your revenge when they have tinitius.
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>>29017518
>it's the same thing
It's not. The street is fair game. When I say public space I mean an actual place, like a park, a restaurant, etc.
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>>29017067
Black, yes
>>29016974
>Men what's your body count?
0, maybe I should shoot up a place
>>29016877
Normies gonna norm, their lives revolve around it, tune it out
The whore secretary at work has asked me like four times now if I have a gf
>>29015452
25 year old KHV here, life is honestly pretty chill, don't kill yourself yet
>>29017518
>repeat 300 times per day
how many cars are you walking past wtf
also your fault for going outside around people
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>>29016974
M
5 prostitutes
1 non prostitute
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>>29017436
this is stupid advice to give to anyone on 4chan

healthy people are mostly boring normies without much internal dialogue or significant thoughts

women who are both sane and interesting don't date weird guys who post on 4chan usually. They're with some male model or millionaire.

I am an autistic man with BPD tendencies I have to work very hard to reign in. Life is constant emotional turmoil to me and I have literally been rejected by therapists lol. I can get girls by having a decent face and height, high income and nice lifestyle, deep voice and big arms from working out two years ago... But "healthy" "sane" women who operate by normie standards are repulsed by me after a few weeks of dating and to get a real gf I have to date girls below my own social class or much younger than me even if it's not strictly my preference.

Yes I could find a 5/10 dental hygienist with good values and loyalty and wife her up using status alone, but I would honestly rather have tragic month-long relationships with 8/10 19yos with daddy issues, or similarly hot working class girls who'll puke on my dick if I bring them to lulu lemon. Yeah having a hot smart sane wife would be great, but whenever I end up on a third date with one of them they run away after I try to do something too kinky in bed too fast or say something racist in front of their fat black roommate. So I take my market clearing price girls I guess. I don't pretend to be the sort of guy the women I'd ideally want would want themselves, so I settle like 90% of people have to and try to specialize as best I can by sacrificing sanity and maturity for looks and brains.
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>>29016974
M

1, my ex wife.
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I will never have a girlfriend, I will never have a fwb, I will never have a hook up
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girls
how much importance do you give to acrobatics during sex? 69 while standing, being thrown around with ease, etc?
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>>29017556
Zero. If anything I dislike it.
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>>29017553
We have 2D
Do it for her
Honor the spirit and essence of your waifu
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>>29017490
If you are 8/10 or above (need 6'0+ and slim body) you can use Tinder successfully. I did that for a while when I was younger and on steroids but I got fat in my late twenties as I focused on my career, so I don't even try with normie apps anymore. If you aren't elite tier looks it is a retarded proposition to even try because of ELO sorting, you have to pay constantly for boosts to even be seen by looksmatch women.

If you are 6-8/10 and not extremely autistic and BPD like me just try to meet girls through friends as best as you can. Apps are cancer and the women are much crazier.

If you are under 6/10 in looks or have mental health issues you should just focus on making money until you can get a six figure job and then find younger women with daddy issues on seeking arrangement. You don't have to pay them if you are okay looking and have decent game, and can get a young gf pretty easily as a late 20s guy just by taking her to nice restaurants and escape rooms etc. But they are usually crazy girls (not necessarily slutty tho). If you do pay you can fuck 2-3 8+/10 normie college girls a week but I would advise against doing that bc it can become addictive and it kinda ruined my soul desu. Try not to have more than 10 sexual partners before 30 if you can. I have a hard time actually liking women these days and if you don't enjoy them what is the point?
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>>29016974
M
What classifies as body count Penetration is obligatory? Then five.
Anything sexual counts? Then probably around 25, more or less. Most of then were prostitutes.
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>>29017574
>If you are 8/10 or above (need 6'0+ and slim body
nta but what about 176cm with a nice body and good face
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>>29017574
>need 6'0+ and slim body
Not true, I went out with/slept over with hot girls from Tinder in the past when I tried it, and am a manlet
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>>29017506
>I do this too, does this make me a whore?
Probably a slut. I'm definitely a show off myself.
I don't care if others have a problem with it, they can put in the effort I've put into sports and diet and overall lifestyle and be jacked if they want.
On the other side I wear baggier clothes if I want to detract attention from my fitness. It gets tiresome when everyone at your new workplace brings it up so it's better to slowly reveal your /fit/ powerlevel so it comes organically. Your manager is going to be insecure about it, 75% chance. Make it as hard for him to be a dick to you as possible, it's good to avoid trouble at work.
Then when I'm lifting I lift my shorts too and I'm practically nude, I don't care I need to be comfortable.
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>>29017577
>good face
This matters most for Tinder desu (all other things equal)
>nice body
A bonus certainly
You still need some rizz or whatever the zoomers are calling it though
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Girls, I regularly download and masturbate to the social media pictures of girls I know. I have folders of them. Do you think this is immoral? No one is harmed.
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>>29016974
M
1
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>>29017539
No, it's solid advice if you main goal is having a healthy relationship. You can't ask for a healthy relationship when you're, fundamentally, an insane piece of shit who pursues other insane cunts.

You said yourself you knowingly make poor decision that lead to poor relationship outcomes because you are more willing to compromise on the health of the relationship than you are willing to compromise on the looks of your partner. You said yourself you are too mentally ill to lock down anyone decent.
Those are all your own decisions.
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do okcupid and such hide your profile if you don't have at least 5 pictures of yourself? I have only 2 and I feel like the little likes I get are due to not fulfilling this requirement
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>>29017574
I'll take that all into consideration my man. I'm 29 and veeeery inexperienced with women asides from my ex.

I'm also pudgy from focusing on my career over the past couple of years but when I'm in shape I'm an easy 9/10 (not being narcissistic, I'm also into super weird esoteric philosophy tho so it balances out)

A solid year of weights coupled with my six figure plus job and I think I stand a good chance of slamming whores for a few years.

Honestly, I'm just tired of being abandoned because I tried to emotionally connect.
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>>29017587
I think so. It's not the worst thing anyone has done in history, but I know I'd feel violated and disgusted if I knew an acquaintance was doing stuff like that. I don't like feeling sexualized by random men.
The whole "if nobody knows you're doing a bad thing, then nobody is harmed" stuff is stupid.

I stopped posting photos of myself on social media after I found out about 4chan 15 years ago.
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>>29017589
He knows, you idiot
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>>29016974
M
0
it feels so alien to me
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>>29017577
if you are using cm I assume you are eurofag, height doesn't matter in med countries apparently

I think height is most important to anglo women followed by germanics and below that it doesn't matter too much.

>>29017581
might be a cultural dif? don't think it matters for hispanics/italians/asians dating in their race and is slightly less important for euros, but as a white or black man in America height seems to be king. I am 3 inches taller than my buddy and do much better than him even though he has a hot bod and beautiful Aryan face and I'm an awkward looking neckbeard. This 6'4 asshole with a fetal alcohol syndrome face we both know blows us both out of the water. Roughly same income and charm level for all three of us so I am convinced height is king but the world is a complex place.
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Girls, do you ever take nude photos of yourself with no intention of sending them to anyone?
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>>29015304
i am a guy ans 100% new to dating apps, outside of using tinder once for a week to boost my self-confidence years ago, back when i had none. im thinking of trying something like hinge, is it any good?
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>>29017614
>might be a cultural dif?
yeah I'm yuro
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>>29017622
No, I take them when I send them to my bf.
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>>29016974
girl
0
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Women what do you think when men in these threads come on to you at the slightest provocation?
>>29017637
wanna change that?
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>>29017637
Where have you been hiding from everyone?
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>>29017643
>wanna change that?
no i'm autistic
>>29017644
in my room doing silly little autistic girl activities and when i go to work, then go home to keep doing my silly autistic girl activities
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>>29017592
Six figure job and handsome face make chubbiness acceptable to most women so long as you aren't morbidly obese, you just won't get laid on Tinder. A few months with dumbbells will give you big enough arms and shoulders to make it a non issue.

Pay for a professional photographer to take some good pics of you (most men are shit at taking selfies) and try Hinge and Match. Stay tf off Bumble. If you don't get any action don't pay for boosts, just go on Seeking if you want to pay.

Good luck, brosef.
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>>29017648
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>>29017648
NEW, MIGRATE WHEN READY
>>29017648
>>29017648
>>29017648
NEW, MIGRATE WHEN READY
>>29017648
>>29017648
>>29017648
NEW, MIGRATE WHEN READY
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>>29017643
They think you're emotionally retarded betas and learn to deal with it by enjoying rejecting you.

Trust me I've asked them.
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>>29017651
>in my room doing silly little autistic girl activities and when i go to work, then go home to keep doing my silly autistic girl activities
I'm autistic too, but I have been trying to leave my house more lately other than just going to college.
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>>29017651
>no i'm autistic
it's okay I like fallout:new vegas too
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>>29017658
i have actually never played fallout and i don't like your implication that i'm trans
my autism goes into resident evil
>>29017656
good luck to you anon
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>>29017663
>my autism goes into resident evil
it was worth a shot
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>>29017651
>i go to work, then go home to keep doing my silly autistic girl activities
omg it's the female version of me
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>>29015399
>Gets dick wet
>We're so fucking back
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>>29015473
* If their not a whore
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>>29017506
>>29017508
Literally just reminded me of

https://youtu.be/56OzqxGMr_U
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>>29017778
* they're



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