HTGWG is by men, for men, about women. Anything related to getting (and dealing with) women goes here. All anons are welcome to ask questions from more experienced anons, share experiences, get a second opinion, and give updates on advice received. It doesn't matter what you're struggling with, we know how hard it can be, we got you brah.HTGWG is NOT for whining, moping, incel-dom, hopelessness, or any of that crap. If you've given up, then go bitch about it somewhere else. Ignore the miserable posters who refuse to put in any effort. Let them rot. They have every other thread on /adv/ to writhe in and every other board, too.>READ THIS NEW POSTERS:New posters are encouraged to share their latest experience with women, be it an attempt to approach, a date, a cute girl from school, or just a girl you saw somewhere and thought was cute, but hesitated to go and talk to her. Also read the FAQ before asking questions.>HOW TO ASK FOR ADVICE:Reminder that context is important. If you're asking for advice don't just ask 'This girl ghosted me, why?', we can't understand what your situation is like. Try to help other anons understand so they can help you, add as much (useful) context as possible ("I was at the bar, this chick was checking me out and .....", what your relationship is with the girl, how long have you known her, screenshots or outline of conversation if any, etc). Don't forget to ask an actual question.>FAQ & Resources:https://pastebin.com/gKwGwANV>Previous Thread:>>28974739
Someone gave me a lot of attention at my club. Spent 2 months building small talk and good interactions. Escalated to the point of coffee outside of the club. 10/10 conversation, never a dull moment, as we are already friends etc. At the end she tells me she is gay and is exploring and thinks she prefers women.... I'm not a virgin, she seemed into me IRL, likely both autisticz. What do?
Bros I asked a girl if she wanted to hang out sometime and she responded "to do what?" I'm a bit stumped on my options
a coworker was telling me about some place she goes to watch cars at nightfirst she says "you should come sometime," i just laughed because I genuinely didn't feel like itthen like a few minutes later still talking about it she says "you should go sometime"did she invite me out by mistake the first time or something lmaoshe got her drivers license recently and when we were driving to the post office for work related shit we passed by a mountain road she said "look, I could drive up there EZ PZ, I did very well driving up a mountain road during my test. not now though when I have a day off "she rejected my offer to go see a movie last Halloween and after that I stopped talking to her and got closer to her best friend (she rejected me but we were rly good friends after anyway) who started working with us, too, but she left a few weeks ago
>>28985848Totally fine. I hate how insecure my fellow men are, sometimes I think the world would be better off with most of you dead.
>>28985895I'd say>rob people for their shoes, sunglasses, and bags to resell on used fashion sites.
>>28984259Following up on this
Does ignoring / no contact work on girls who have a crush on you?
>>28986069It's practice. Lots and lots of practice. And plenty of nights where you bomb too. There's no magic formula bitch you will never suddenly gain confidence and effortlessness.
>>28986081Do you mean like playing hard to get or wanting her to leave you alone? Do you know she likes you or just a suspicion
While you're at bars, clubs, pubs; do you guys approach girls in big groups while they're dancing? Or are those girls too zoned out to even bother with you? Is it better to approach girls that aren't dancing?
>>28986114>Do you mean like playing hard to get yes.>Do you know she likes you or just a suspicion100% certain she likes me. She's also the type of girl that gets attention easily from guys
>>28986081Depends. If shes a femcel with no options? Yeah, itll drive her wild. Is she normal? Nope. Youll lose her attention pretty shortly.If you know she likes you ask her out. No games needed. Just dont flood her with texts and act like youre best friends in the world now.
>>28985687Could use a response on this one, thanks.In case you ask for the country, it's Venezuela, sure it sucks in here kek.
>>28986139You seem very arrogant despite all your 'unfortunate' circumstances.
>>28986104Yeah, that's the thing. I never meet enough women irl to practise on unfortunately. Thanks for answering me anon, I'll probably repost this later as a thread too.
>>28986126then I don't understand why you'd want to play hard to get just go for it. If you take too long or act too indifferent she may feel that you don't like her and move on.
>>28986150Arrogant?? How come? I may have worded things a little bit poorly, most probably, but I by no means have anything to be arrogant about. Could you elaborate?
>>28986184You're definitely not as unique as you think you are. How can you say your values are rare when you rarely leave your house? What's restricting you from gaining independence by leaving your small town? Why can't you match with anyone?
>>28986179>then I don't understand why you'd want to play hard to get just go for it.She started itt, kept eyeing me up for months, I approached and she got excited, asked her out by text and she ignored it, proceeded to try game me the next day to make me chase her around abit and I never did. From what I heard from her friends recently shes "in love" with me according to them
>>28986050lolI think it's fine too I was just wondering what normies would think, I only started touching grass 3 months ago
Two questionsMy ex does not talk to me at all. I miss her a great deal. I have thought about reaching out to her friend to ask if she'd be willing to try and reconcile. It has been a long time. My entire body tells me this is the morally incorrect thing to do. Should I go through with it?Second. I am speaking to a girl who looks very similar to my ex. My body does not tell me this is the morally incorrect thing to do, but my mind thinks it's unhealthy. Should I go through with it?
>>28986270>I have thought about reaching out to her friend to ask if she'd be willing to try and reconcileThat's kinda creepy and she will probably say no. Only attempt this if she isn't in your social circle>>28986270Probably not the most healthiest thing to do, but whatever. Just be nice to her and don't expect it to last
>>28986270what would you say to them?don't start a new relationship >>28986294nope you're just creepy to presume you'd know the answer to a situation you know nothing
>>28985800Not interested in getting women but what’s a sure fire way to piss off a fake ass cunt.
>>28986222she wanted the attention/drama and you were the one willing to act in accordance to her whims so you have to take it for face value and understand that she chose what she ultimately wants which wasn't your compliance but somebody more suitable for her companionship thats not to say you're not a good partner or lover but that her standards are obviously garbage and she will reap what she sow so don't worry too much about being good enough for her bc nothing is good enough for her as is, so don't let that apply to your life and let it go.
>>28986222Maybe then. Personally I find it insulting whenever girls try the hot and cold approach, I'm not their dancing monkey for validation. But if you can find a way to make it work then perhaps but me personally I'd try and find a way to break that barrier whether it's through her or a friend in such a way where it's just either we're going out or I'll look elsewhere. Good luck to you though anon I hoe tings work out in your favour
>>28986337wot is? fake ass who?
I went with my friend to the mall today to pick up girls and got ones number. Really cute italian girl and it went like this>walk up>say hey i saw you over there and thought you were really cute do you think i can get your number?>shes blushing and smiling and says "okay but i don't really know you">110% confidence say back "well you can get to know me" and she starts laughing I have her number and haven't texted or called her yet. This just happened about an hour ago. How do i proceed? I kind of want to go on a date with her on friday but should we text a bit first or just jump in? What should my first text look like?
>>2898584816 is legal in my state, I just don't tell anyone.
I'm noticing some female looks here and there. I think my face is at least average, I have some muscles but I'm still fat so I don't allow myself to entertain the thought that it's legit attention rather than mockery(there are reasons beaides being fat).suppose I were to try and realize if this attention is legit, how would I go about it?
>>28986541talk to them?
>>28986205>How can you say your values are rare when you rarely leave your house?I said I only leave for important reasons, like work and college, specially work since Im working with my father an overly-demanding job with constant social interactions (that's how I sharpened my social skills toa decent level).And how do I know? Because it is something I've dealt with for most of my life, I was always treated as someone "different" in both good and bad ways when I am just a quiet, laid back and overly polite person with little charisma in a country where the opposite is the norm and high charisma is the minimum required. This behavior has only served me good with old people and parents, everyone else treats me like a rare bug. I wish this wasnt the case, since Im not even an objectively bad person, Im just way too nice, introvert and polite in a country where that kind of behavior is genuinely rare and seen as weird by most people.>What's restricting you from gaining independence by leaving your small town?If you dont know how it is to live here, I wont bore you with the details, just give you the TLDR: Prices constantly rise at least twice a day, lots of basic items have become luxuries, some have disappeared altogether, little to no job opportunities, minimum wage is -at best- roughly 25$ a month and you're constantly bleeding money you never have.>Why can't you match with anyone?It's just that my likes are as misaligned with everyone else's due to them being forged mostly outside of my culture, the music I listen to, the hobbies I do, the games I play, they are somehow different to everyone else's, it is difficult to click with someone when they ask about the things you like and you're unable to tell them because they just dont know, and it's not like I only like obscure stuff, it's just that this country's culture is so narrowed to a just a few things (that I happen to not like) that anything outside of those things is frowned upon.
>>28986294She isn’t in my social circle at all. >>28986330I want to hear how she views the relationship for closure, and for a better chance at closure.
broke up with gf some days agogot no females in my social circles now, is asking qt girls in public transport for their numbers as weird as i think it is?
>>28985895Bowling and drinks
>>28985832perhaps the fear of intimacy due to a traumatic incidence or she could just be gay and think of you as friends but the way you expressed chemistry and attraction leads me to believe she's dealing with something below the surface and can only tell you that it's possibly a preference. You can either tell her that you're comfortable being friends and encourage her to seek professional help if it's as i suspect or tell her that you're only interested in a commited relationship and that you enjoyed the time together then wish her well and move on.
>>28986580Should add there are a few girls I’m speaking to but all of them make me miss her more. Ah well.
>>28986580closure only works if you're ready to take on your own steps without them otherwise it is a backdoor entrance back into your life, which is why you should ask yourself first and foremost are you ready? We're never quite ready unfortunately but being able to ask yourself this is a good indicator that you're ready to take ownership of your life which is a grand step indeed so don't worry too much about the readiness more so the willingness to initiate. You'll find that is often the key to triggering a butterfly affect of more possibilities. Goodluck anon don't be afraid to fail it is redeeming to do so with grace and kindness, we're all imperfect people.
alright fellas, here's the secret to getting a gf, it works but you're not gonna like it. First, think, how many friends do you have? Friends that you spend time with completely platonically. If none, we'll start here. Join meetups, groups, events, or whatever is in your area it literally doesn't matter. Meet people then put in effort to maintain those friendships. Over the next few months, make an effort to hang out with the people you meet, don't let it be a one and done thing. If you meet girls, keep it 100% platonic unless she's obviously interested in you (she isn't, don't try your luck). Keep this up for about a year and the people you meet will introduce you to their friends, invite you to their meetups, etc. If you get introduced to someone you're intertested in and she's single, ask her out. She's much more likely to say yes if a friend introduced you.The plurality of people in relationships met their significant other through a mutual contact, this is a slow way but it's more effective than cold approaching or dating apps and it's something you can start doing today.
>>28986599don't do this it's unsettling
OkThis migjt be weird but its a real questionHow do i hygienemaxx?Like, after pooping i just feel dirty, even despite making really good effort of cleaning my ass.Usually at work when i need to poop i take a paper cup with warm water, and after shit, i wipe down well with dry paper, then take new sheets, dip in the cup, use the wet paper and wipe until its clear.But even then i sometimes get some stains in underwear.Do i need to have diet where my poops are always rock solid or something.I eat generally pretty good, fitness food like minced beef with some veggies and protein food products. But i rarely have "perfect" poops.This generally made me anxious a bit and i shower before going to gym (after wor and that makes me feel clean again.But even then after some time lifting, i sometimes squat down and smell the sweat / musk from inner thighsBut its not a swamp ass smell
>>28986736I’d be lying if I said I didn’t want her back, but I know it’s not possible and not healthy. I really just want to understand the whys of all the terrible decisions I made.
>>28986479say who you are and what you want don't be ambigiously fucking creepygirls dont give phone numbers btw
>>28986761how do i meet new girls then
what do i do when someone is trying to mess with my head and use my phone number to troll me
Do guys actually approach women at bars with the intention for a romantic or sexual connection? Is this a thing that actually happens??? Or is it some Hollywood bullshit like those wild parties that never happen irl.
When a girl likes you at a club what's the normal thing, that she goes home with you the same night or that she gives contact info and goes back to her friends?
>>28986758>Keep this up for about a yearngmi
>>28986758I’m only planning on living in my current area for another year though.
>>28986758>If none, we'll start here. Join meetups, groups, events, or whatever is in your area it literally doesn't matter.I did this. I came on too strong and I scared a dude away.Now I'm back to level one.
When you're talking to a girl and you can't hear something she says is it better to pretend you heard than to ask her to repeat herself? I asked a girl to repeat herself multiple times during our conversation and I feel it puts you in a bad position, especially if she doesn't repeat herself. I'm unsure whether this girl did that, I think maybe she did, maybe once. If a girl talks too quietly or not clearly enough that's her fucking problem, I think I'll just pretend I heard every word from now on.
>>28986758I tried to befriend guys at bars/clubs. One stood me up when we were going to go out together. Another one we went out together once but he did not seem to enjoy himself, did not seem to like me, and sat silent for long periods, we talked to no girls, doubt he will text me again and I won't text him again because I think it's his turn. Another guy ghosted.
What should you say in the first text to a girl you met at a club?
I finished my second year of university doing a history degree, and I doubt the history clubs here will be fruitful in finding a woman. I can only think of doing more gen ed stuff to meet someone. What are some other avenues I can do?
>>28987439>When you're talking to a girl and you can't hear something she says is it better to pretend you heard than to ask her to repeat herself?i'd move closer to her
How many texts / how long do you usually speak to your dating app matches before asking them out?
>>28987824I think it was either Roosh or Mystery who said leaning in displays lower value.
>>28987856i didn't say i'd lean into her
>File no longer exists (404)only on /adv/ every single imagewhy is that?
>>28987856>I think it was either Roosh or Mystery who said leaning in displays lower value.Man, fuck me that's crazy. I get not going full simp over a pussy but watching every little minute behaviour of yourself like this will drive you insane.
>>28987873I was already standing close
>>28987898thisshit's fucking retarded>>28987910move even close to her, right in her faceand if she'll ask "wtf are you doing" tell her to speak up a bit
I met a cute girl through my friends and we started hanging out, it was fun, she seems cool etc etc, we fucked a couple times She starts talking to me about how she got married at 23-24 and had a kid and then opens up about how the guy is a complete piece of trash, then starts talking about how she just got out of a situationship with another toxic guy who won’t let her see other men even though he doesn’t want to be with her, but she’s still in contact with him Idk what happened but I got a notification at like 4 am saying she had screen recorded our chats. Then I ask her about it and she says her ex showed up at her house and went through her phone So basically she either invited him over after we were together or he did just show up and she let him go through her phone? Idfk. But I told her I didn’t want to be involved anymore and she got mad and talked shit then blocked me on everything Did I go about this wrong or is she just really fucked up?
>>28987977nah, you're fine, that shit's on her
>>28986116I've only ever approached when it is just two girls together. I always assumed a group just wants to be left alone and it seems harder anyways.
>>28986116This Saturday I was at a club. Positioned myself on the dancefloor next to a group of 4 girls. I was just standing there with my beer kind of dancing a little, looking at the girls. One of them broke off from the group and started dancing with me or in front of me, facing me. I toasted her glass and leaned in to talk to her. We went out to smoke and there I got her snapchat.
Is it worth it going for this cute girl at my school, whom I only see her at one class? Or would it restrict me on what I can do or say?
>>28986794You raise a good point. So many of the people I work with smell bad, and I always wonder if I do too and don't know it? How can you tell if you smell bad? If I forget deodorant I know right away - is it just some people don't care? As to your question - the longer the stool is in your digestive tract, the harder it becomes (and less cleanup). Though it also becomes more difficult to pass.
>>28987827As always it depends. But an approximate rule of thumb that has worked for me:More than 5 Less than 10
is it normal for a girl to react with a heart to a normal text message?help.fucking help.
>>28988377Sounds normal but we'll need some context.
>>28988377what was the normal message and how flirty has she been with you in the past if applicable?
>>28988391>>28988393i just asked for a big group pic from an event, i said "thank you!" and she said you're "welcome!!" and my text had a heart thing, never any kind of flirting as far as i know which is little to nothing
>>28988435Yeah that's normal. A little friendly or flirty, more likely friendly.
>>28988435then unfortunately for you that's normal and nothing to indicate otherwise
>>28988440>>28988449>>28988441thank god, i was worried
>>28985800How do I fix trust issues and solitary habits?
>>28988680Haha. Find an easy way and you can become rich selling it. Otherwise, dedicate time effort and resources to changing yourself and being extremely uncomfortable as you take steps out of your safety bubble of copes
>>28987673I would say “wys chica” if they were from L O N D O N
Few days ago I met a hot and cute as fuck alt girl during a big party. She basically immediately asked me for social media and we were kissing/making out multiple times during the party, including getting one last goodbye kiss when I was leaving.I was thinking that I should wait a few days and then text her but now I think maybe the better option would have been texting the next day right away.What should I do?
>>28989075I would just text “Wanna get a drink”
Anons, why does chatting up multiple women on dating apps feel like cheating?
>>28989177 Because you are still operating on the old fashioned romantic values that you were raised with. Those values are increasingly incompatible with modernity and I strongly encourage you to abandon them as soon as possible.
>>28989210I will not become a sinner. I will be loyal to a single woman. Kys kike
>>28989235Good luck to you. Devoted romantic monagamists become boring and the urge to stray for more wild/ passionate moments becomes too tempting for most women to ignore.
So I posted in /atoga/ too but I'll type that in here too because there I didn't got any answerLast date (the 5th) with this girl we did have a really nice time, probably the best in this 5 dates. We haven't still kissed each other, but who care, I don't mind it (allright, I do, but whatever). So, during the conversation I said that I have some dumbell at home and she said if I could lend them to her. I told her, we'll see, we'll see, it might be possible. Now, she probably will ask next time we will meet and since I still don't want to lend to her because I still don't feel it, is it ok if I just say to her>I still don't know you this much to lend stuff to you. We'll see in the futureOr is it a bit harsh? She is pretty direct with me and I want to be that too.
Advice on meeting women in my situation?After graduating HS I spent 2 years being a depressed NEET and dropped out of my large Uni to a small one. Ended up getting a far easier degree. I’ve been studying here successfully for 1 1/2 years now.During that period I met a couple of women but nothing worked out due to how depressed I was / me being a loser / my family situation being kinda fucked. I was also diagnosed with ADHD and found that women only came ‘naturally’ as in it ‘just happened’ when I was on medication - which I was only on for less than a year (but by far my most successful period with getting to meet women).At my old Uni I made lots of friends initially and met lots of people through club activities but there’s basically no clubs at my current Uni + I’m turning 22 this year and most girls are 18/19. Most of my friends have drifted apart as well and of those I still have we just don’t go out clubbing or anything like that anymore. I used to have a lot of female friends who would sometimes introduce me to some of their friends but they’ve all drifted off for the most part.I’ve tried dating apps but it never seems to work out like meeting people in person did. I just really don’t like it.I could hit on my coworkers I guess it I guess that’s a very bad idea and I’m pretty sure they all/most of them have boyfriends.Also every time I’ve spent the night with a woman it’s never been very good. I’ve never been with a woman properly/consistently enough to not be horrible at sex.In terms of appearance I’m not as muscular as I was in that period since I’ve stopped lifting but I’ve been running a lot and have focused on not being as fat before heading back to the gym. I’ve lost 20kg and want to lose a further 15. Maybe I should just start trying once I achieve this.
>6 years ago>not in a good mental state>gf breaks up with me>snap>go on tinder>match with a girl>date for a few months>really really like her>some shit happens with her ex and she breaks it off from me >feel like shit and turn into a raging autist over text at her for wasting my time>forget about her>improve a lot over time>ff to a few days ago>match with her again after 6 years>genuinely dont believe it >we talk for a bit, have a good conversation>she doesnt add me back on snapchat because of how i acted last time>feel kinda badshe's a nice girl, shame i fucked it up so long ago
>>28989252>the urge to stray for more wild/passionate momentsyou know that being monogamist doesn't have to mean being boring, unattractive lump? there is so much things to do in life to spice it up without sliding your dick into vagina that it's not really worth it
>>28989813>>28989813Please help me out chadnons
i am fat and ugly. live in a big city. how do i get bitches like now!?
Man I may be single, long term even, but the thought that I’d turn to this place for advice?Good god I’d be better off kms.
Some girl at train station always looks at me whenever I turn i see her looking. She also always walks over to get on the same carriage as me. Is it a coincidence or is she smitten?
>>28990118Strike up a conversation about something small and see what kind of reaction you get.
I'm so sick of feeling inadequate.I try to meet women and I either get unhealthily obsessed immediately or it just doesn't work out.I know I'm not unattractive, plenty of women have told me so.But I feel like I'm a failure of a man after rejection.I don't know how to be a man.I never felt like a man.My dad was constantly disappointed in me because I was always bad at sports and never had a gf (still haven't).I even thought I was trans for a while because of this.Wtf am I doing wrong?
>>28990264I’ll try that
Slept too little today and I was planning to send the first text later today to a girl I met at a club Saturday. Fuck. Oh well it'll just be a few texts anyway and she might not reply. Anyway asking for like the 5th time, what should I text her?
Hey guys, so I had a small discussion with my brother on how to approach women. He's older than me and much more successful in both hookups and relationships (he's married). I asked him how I should approach women in bars and brought up what I learnt here, being >go directly to a woman>tell her that you thought she was beautiful and that you wanted to speak to her >go from there, use FORD if you have to keep the conversation goingHe was kind of flabbergasted and said you should never do that. And that you should approach but start off light-hearted asking how their night is going so far, what they think about the venue, whether they've been there before etc. Keep it simple and fun with a little teasing (i.e your eyes are so pretty, they take the attention off of your nose). Don't bring up anything related to FORD as nobody wants to talk about their family to strangers.To the dudes who actually get pussy in this sausage-fest of a general, what do yall think?
>>28990381Unironically weren't bullied enough growing up
>>28990551>your eyes are so pretty, they take the attention off of your noseThat's called negging. You should only do that to hot girls who have a lot of pride and ego and seem to think they're better than you to bring them down a notch. If a girl isn't super hot, doesn't give the impression she thinks she's hot shit, and is being nice to you, then you shouldn't do it.
Where can I even meet women other than the dating apps? I'm a non-drinker and my social anxiety will kick in if I go to a bar by myself and I've drifted away from my friends so they're not going to help me find anyone. I feel uncomfortable with talking to random women at the grocery store, mall, gym, etc.
I asked a girl at a club what places she normally goes to or likes, something like that. Maybe that was bad game. In hindsight I think it's too intrusive. Oh well, I'm learning, getting experience and getting better little by little all the time. At least I don't think I coughed, scratched my face, blinked hard or such. Was out yesterday walking around looking for girls to do daygame on, but I was out too late, really only saw one good target, maybe two, but they were not really in a good position for me to approach so I didn't. I spotted one girl who was decent and started stalking her, realized you're already in a bad position if you've started stalking, you should be quick and not hesitate, I dropped it. She started walking faster but it's not necessarily due to having seen me, could be anything. Sure there have been girls who saw me and started walking fast to get away from me, but I shouldn't be thinking that's necessarily the case, that's being sensitive, not being like Boomhauer not giving a fuck, but anyway you should try to follow the 3 second rule, stalking or hesitating to go up is not good especially if a girl sees it, some girls have still had a positive response but I think it puts you in a bad light and some girls are probably turned off by it but would have had a positive response if you didn't hesitate.
>>28985848The most virtriol you're gonna get is from jealous women.
>>28985088>I have a degree>I get invited to house parties>I get teen girlsSeems like you're just bragging. Anyway you americans are cucked. I'm almost 40 and I had an instant date with an 18-year-old a few years ago and lots of girls who look 15-17 give me indications of interest.
this girl i've been flirting with suddenly changed her hair for a few days. should i tease her about changing it back cus she didnt get enough compliments?
I cut my ballsack while shaving in preparation for meeting a womanIt's a tiny cut but I'm on blood thinners and it just won't stop bleedingHow do I stop it? If it was elsewhere on my body I'd superglue it as usual, but I don't want my balls to get stuck to my dick
>>28990551he's right, that's how normal people interact>>28990568you pua-autists have to ruin everything, don't you? teasing people you like is just normal behaviour and you turn it into some psycho manipulation shit
Should I give an ultimatum to a girl that ghosted me a week ago? She said she was gonna go to a second date with me but fucked off I don't know where
>>28990672take some benzos trust me it'll change your life. start with the absolutely lowest dosage once a week so you dont grow dependent on them. it'll eliminate all anxiety.
>>28991173you know you could just not push your dick onto the glue while it dries for 1 minute....
>>28990672>went out alone>fucking shit for over 2 hours>finally find empty table>some grill comes and steals the other chair>tells me to come over >do so>spend last 2 hours talking shit with her brother and his SO>share taxi home (they're my fucking neighbors)>get invited in>spend another 6 hours talking shit with himthink i made a new friend, bros. maybe i should ask if his sister tend to do that a lot of if she had some agenda, but she didnt seem interested while i was talking with the others.>>28991286not him but i also have some anxiety along with decent issues sleeping (wake up 30+ times every night and is never well-rested).maybe i should ask my doc for some.does it also help with staying cool when i talk to cute girls?
>>28991284No. Don't say anything or do anything, let it be.
I wish bartenders didn't feel obligated to be nice to people.There's one bartender I think is cute. Yesterday nobody came to their side of the bar except me so we just watched a movie and talked about work/school for 2 1/2 hours. As much as I want to ask for her number, I'm friends with all the bartenders there and don't want to risk her saying I was being weird to all of them
>>28990551Your brother is right in a sense. FORD is suggested for those socially stunted losers that have no social skills and can't even have decent conversations, so they can learn to chat. It's not for pulling girls in itself. It's a remedial exercise because they're not even close to being able to pull a girl.
Bro I'm matching with legit models on Hinge but can't get a fucking date. What do?
>>28992192I'm sure you are buddy :)
I don't have the courage to approach women, I don't know where I should go to approach women, and dating apps don't work, I don't know what to do anymore.
Met a cute girl at a party, we made out, she asked me for my Facebook and added me.After party i was busy for a few days but now thought about texting her, so i checked out her social media.She has like 2000 friends on FB. Is there even a point texting? She probably gets 100 messages from guys every day lmao.
>>28990672Social anxiety is a killer and you need to start taking steps to socially acclimate or you're dead. It's cute when girls have social anxiety, it's legit ugly when guys do. That being said>classes group exercise, art, yoga, dance, photography, knitting or other cottage-crafts, cooking, etc>eventsNecessarily vague. But an example is an independent movie theater screening cult classics late at night in my city. They serve beer and snacks and it's a social event before/after. Another is seasonal fairs or local holiday events, or conventions of some kind. >bars off peak hours (3pm-10pm) especially if they have food so you can at least order something if you're not drinking. Great place to socially acclimate as they're open daily, there are fewer people, music isn't blasting, people are there to relax and socialize not party>just chatting up girls on the streetClassic. Seems awkward, but power through it, act unfazed by awkward moments. Maybe idk I've never done it myself. If I did I'd go to a tourist trap and chat up girls I'll never see again lol.>industry eventsIf you go to them. In my field these often become party environments after business is done. People from across the region attend. At some point you'll have to take risks, bomb horribly, and suffer the consequences therefrom. The consequences are rarely worse than a moment of mockery from bombing so bad, the only time I've seen worse (security called or something) is when guys don't take a hint (or explicit rejection) and keep trying.
>>28992251LDAR. Men are disposable, if you're too weak to improve, it's over.
>>28986139>>28986562Estás copeando duro mi negro, yo también onions de Venezuela y posiblemente onions más pobre que tú (ni trabajo, sólo estudio), me crié con principios que se alinean con los tuyos (educación por encima de todo; nada de ese "echaismo palante" que impera en este lodazal) y era bastante introvertido. Eso no me ha impedido conseguir jeva.Lo que noto es que tienes una opinión muy negativa de ti, denotas un excesivo pesimismo y si eso se transluce en lo que escribes imagina lo que podría discernir si te viese irl. Claramente tienes muy baja autoestima, que supongo estará enraizado en algunos fracasos sociales durante tu vida o en constantes comparaciones con personas a tu alrededor con más éxito en el ámbito sexual/social.Otra cosa que vislumbro, y espero no ofenderte, es que tienes un complejo de copo de nieve y atribuyes el fracaso social propio a tu personalidad y gustos "únicos y detergentes"; a lo externo: "me rechazan porque no onions como el venezolano promedio", porque para tu ego esto es más fácil de digerir que reconocer tu incapacidad para conectar genuinamente con otros seres humanos. Ser distinto al venezolano promedio no debería ser un hándicap para ti, sino más bien una ventaja.¿Qué hacer? Lo tuyo es un fundamentalmente un problema de confianza, te guste o no admitirlo. CONTINÚA...
>>28992945Mírate en el espejo y pregúntate ¿qué me hace falta para convertirme en la mejor versión de mi mismo? si es dinero (algo bastante patético desu), concéntrate en tu carrera y en tu empleo, si es mejor físico, empieza a ir al gimnasio/hacer calistenia en tu casa, si es más sabiduría, es hora de leer los grandes clásicos literarios de Dostoyevski y otros, si es estilo, ahorra un poco y compra ropa bonita (te sorprendería lo mucho que cambia el trato de la gente cuando estás bien vestido y no embutido en ropa deportiva de los buhoneros), si son más habilidades sociales, sal de tu cabeza y empieza a conocer mejor a la gente que te rodea, intenta interesarte genuinamente por su vida y su historia, a la ves que narras tus experiencias. Si aún te abruman experiencias del pasado, te guste o no vas a tener que buscar ayuda psicológica.Intuyo que eres bastante joven, quizás tienes menos de 19 años, porque caes en el clásico error de "me iré a X país que no sea este cagadero y allá podré empezar de nuevo", lo siento mi negro, pero los únicos que pueden empezar de nuevo son los bebés, pues nacen sin contexto previo. Tus inseguridades no se borrarán con irte a otro país, siempre estarán ahí y a lo mucho pueden empeorar, puesto que, a menos que seas un americano alto y guapo, es difícil que los extranjeros te traten como un igual y siempre carecerás de ese sentido de pertenencia que ignoras en tu nación de origen.Trabaja en tu personalidad y una vez que te sientas confiado con quién eres, serás tu mejor versión ya sea en Venezuela o en cualquier otro país. Suerte negrito.
Sent a text to the girl who gave me her snapchat at a club two days ago, that was around 8:30pm, it's now more than 2 hours later and no reply. She probably won't reply. As my gut feeling told me already before I texted. Fuck her.
>>28985832Go for another one, rinse and repeat
>>28992237For real tho, just 2 days ago I matched with a broad that says she works as a model for a well known high fashion brand. Opened with cheeky message asking her out, she agreed, I said cool how about this day but she ain't replied
Just be extra yourself
>>28993046Don't think anyone is already sleeping at 8:30. She can go fuck herself.
just got back from a first date, coffee and an alcoholic drink, had a really good time and think the feelings mutual. walked her home, told her i wanted to see her again and she agreed, no kiss though but she hugged mehow long should i leave it until i text her and what should i say? was thinking some time tomorrow. our text conversations are pretty good so i kinda feel like i can say anything >both newly out of relationships>met online so first time i’ve ever met her
>>28993517>no kiss though but she hugged meit's over
>>28993619i don’t think so personally, she was laughing a lot and seemed really comfortable, i don’t think a kiss on the first date is necessary but not getting a kiss on the second date would be a real bad sign
how do I lost my virginity asap? without paying a hooker if possible
I made a thread but it’s dead so I’m posting here. I live next to a married GILF who is a family friend. She gives me mixed vibes. I think she likes me, but it’s hard to be certain. Today I think I might have been too flirty because she kept her distance from me and only replied to a text with 2 words. Am I delusional? Did I fuck up? How do I verify whether she likes me? What do I do?
>>28985848Just don't be an e-celeb and you'll be fine.
How do I stop feeling angry and resentful towards women for rejections?
>>28992724nice gaslighting. your attitude puts all pussy on a pedestal.
>>28990551>FORDWhat the FUCK does this mean? Why in God's name do you people have to make up a new fucking acronym every 8 minutes.
Hot girls approach me but when they hear what I do for a living they reject me. Fuck my life.
>>28994409What do you do?
>>28994414None of your fucking business
I've come to realize that I'm actually not that bad looking but i do suffer from some bad acne, my face is rough and full of black-heads. Any tips on skin care?
A girl sent herself a friend request on snapchat on my phone but didn't accept the request. It says I can still text her. Will she see the text? It seems like it only shows "opened" if they're friends, otherwise it says "delivered", right? Is it possible she has read the text anyway but it just doesn't notify me she has?
>>28994454Fuck this whore, she seemed to like me at first but pretty sure the turning point was when I said what I do for a living. I'll give a joke reply from now on.
Another hot girl who approached me rejected me after implying that I was neurotic and asking if I was with friends on the boat and I said I was alone. She didn't ask what I do for a living.
>>28994343Sure whatever. It actually doesn't matter if it is or not, the point of game is to act like it isn't regardless, signaling higher social value which triggers attraction. It works whether pussy is or isn't on a pedestal, making the discussion of my pedstalizing or not irrelevant.
>>28994454Another girl I approched outside a club I made the mistake of texting her the same night. She didn't reply. Then I texted again 4 days later, no reply, then again 12 days after I met her, then she replied and we eventually had 2 dates. Not sure if I should try that with this bitch too? To text her again in 2 weeks or so. Don't know if this bitch even sees my texts if she hasn't accepted the friend request. As I said snapchat says we're not friends but that I can still text her.
If you text a girl a first text 8:30pm and she doesn't reply all evening she won't reply right?
Fuck feminism. Has made women want to have the cake and eat it too, causing the incel epidemic.
>>28994605No pity for you! None at all!
There's this girl I'm into that out of the blue just gave me a nickname; nothing too special, she just added a suffix to my name and now she uses it pretty much every other time she refers to me, whether we're in public or in private and has also said (I assume jokingly) that she's the only one who can call me by that name. Thing is that I've never seen her do that with anyone else before, not even long time friends.What does that usually mean, am I too dense?
>>28994639Islam is right about women, liberals and kikes.
Girl that rejected me is now with another dude.She basically ghosted me 2 months ago when I asked her out, we study in the same place.Today I saw her with another guy, one of her friends was completely alone on the campus (because she was talking to the guy), should I hit on her friend and shoot my shot or is this a bad idea?She probably knows I got rejected since they talk everyday but what do I really have to lose? Yes, being rejected was a bitch and having to see her everyday sucked but if I get rejected again atleast I get some social experience out of it.Keep in mind I'm out of that place in a few months.
>>28985848My golden rule is usually a dating range of + or - 4 years from your age, but even then early 20 year olds are feeling too young for real adult dating. No life experience, have probably never had to be independent, barely any consciousness about the world- it's weird to go after that if you're making career moves and thinking about a house while they're still deciding what college to go to. Any older guy who goes for it deserves the shit they get.
>>28995152Fuck a woman for once instead of jerking off to cartoon children.Actually, I take it back. No woman should be burdened with fixing you.
>>28986580>I want to hear how she views the relationship for closure, and for a better chance at closure.with one relationship i had, a few years later we met up for lunch, then had some beers, and talked about a lot about the things that went wrong. it felt really healthy and it was good that we talked in the end.with a different relationship, she gradually refused to talk to me about anything, becoming more spiteful. she'd blow me off or snub me in texts, we never had a meaningful "what went wrong" chat, even though i really wanted to. i cannot make her, but it feels like i did not learn much because i only have my own side of the story.tl;dr people are different. reach out, if she doesn't reciprocate, she probably will never. do not waste your time, or mental energy, on it. i think i know the same feeling you're feeling, and coming to terms with it for yourself is what worked for me. it sucks.
>>28987439move to somewhere more quiet if you're trying to talk to someone.
Two hot girls who approached me at clubs in the last few months both rejected me.
I've been out of the dating market for 3 years. Two because I was in a relationship and one because of heartbreak. Getting back into the scene has been challenging. Fewer women on apps in the area I now live in. But on vacation I went on a date with a local girl. She was more beautiful in person than her pictures. And more autistic. Her communication on the app was very flirtations and excited. In person we had intense conversations that were interesting... But I forgot one key part of flirting. Being amused and aloof. I was way too earnest and deadpan. My emotional state went from nervousness at the beginning to a sort of flatness I get from being tired of being nervous. At which point mentally, I picked a few things that were not jiving and talked myself out of pussy.Happy to have gone on a date, not exactly optimistic about getting another soon. Oh yeah, after a few minutes of talking during our date I said "hey I don't wanna interview you! come sit next to me and we can rub our legs together later haha." To which she said "sure lol" sat next to me and said "damn you must be really horny." I was like "uhh nah I sauna'd I'm basically a sexless baked potato now".A fair shit test from her, a retarded response from me. Torpedo'd my mood and then I just went clinical review mode. Anyway good luck anons, just rambling
Is it worth it to just become a man whore and fuck bar sluts as someone who is an emotional pussy that lusts after girls where the relationship always goes fucked up because I just want an emotional connection with someone I really like but it never happens. T. Also a virgin but could get pussy every weekend not trying to brag just being honest
>>28995077Yes, best thing you can do to some bitch who rejected you is get on good terms with her friends
>>28995430>damn you must be really hornyso how do you respond to this?
>>28991643I would give her your number actually, but tell her when you do it it's because you enjoy talking and spending time with her and would like to get to know her outside of work; make sure to make it clear that there's no pressure on her to send anything and that you're just giving her the option to do so if she desires. If she says no just act like a gentleman and say "I understand and I apologize if I made thing sawkward" and treat her the same.
>>28995643the wrong response is "no", or anything that sounds like "no". brushing it off is probably also a poor choice. i have found that if a girl does something sexual to some extent and you shoot it down even if it's a joking over-the-top "no" ends poorly. i'd probably say some retarded line in the moment like "it is my cross to carry". or some other sort of positive, joking response.
>>Shits like star wars. Its either han solo or you gotta use the force on a bitch lol.
>>28995821>the wrong response is "no", or anything that sounds like "no". brushing it off is probably also a poor choice.i thought that as welli'd probably go with "you're right, so what are we going to do about it?" or "i blame you for that", or something similarly stupid
>sometime ago meet a super qt blonde at gym>She smiles to me from distance a lot, decided to approach her>She seems witty and kinda wholesome, asked her name and introduced myself>Then after some time i didnt see her again>Fast forward many months>Im entering gym and see her>She smiles super nicely as our eyes meet>I say long time no see, she giggles and says yeah i wasnt coming in at all >Said that its nice shes back and time to get back to training>Another day approached her and asked if i remembered her name correctly, she said yeah, but she didnt remember my name (already oof but not blaming her, we spoke like twice) and asked it again>yesterday i see her again from distance, she spots me and we smile to eachother>I walk up closer, but she doesnt even look my direction>Assume she doesnt want to talkIts over right... Defeated male leaves again. Or should i approach her little bit more aggressively.Dont want to seem needy / pushy, but in the past that had also costed me potential dates (and even hookup)
I will go out of my way to annoy this bitch until she is forced to tell me to fuck off
>>28986599>public transportThis is so creepy I feel like I'm about to burst into laughter. You realize you cannot leave a bus or subway on demand? If a girl got creeped out and thought you were going to pull out a knife or something, she literally has no option but to scream for her life. I can't imagine the vehicle at almost full capacity even has the room for the girl to run away to. You aren't just putting social weight on the girl, you are making everyone within earshot uncomfortable when they have to witness your shit. Public transport, aside from getting from A to B, is for people to unwind and relax, they don't even make eye contact with each other.
>>28996031bro, its not over for her its over for you. YOU should move on cause this chick aint worth your time.> >sometime ago meet a super qt blonde at gymthinking with the wrong head.
Is saying hey good enough to initiate a conversation on dating apps?
How to create the right mood to kiss her? We've been on 5 dates already and nothing happened yet. I see her being everytime more comfortable around me, joking, she text me first, want to anticipate our dates, but I still can't seems to kiss her. How should I proceed? Over 30 both of us, she is a pretty serious girl, not the one that gives easy I guess, and I'm very glad I found something like that, but I would like to do this step forward.
>had an random icebreaker with a girl at gym>She basically ran into me>And seemed keen to talk further, but my autism was too strongOk so riddle me this, that girl looked like a literal model, just shorter. Actual 10/10.And she walked into me, basically being fully aware i was there.Maybe she just wanted attention, idk, but does that mean im at least somewhat presentable?I have lived all my life thinking im undateable because of my looks.Im lifting for couple years now, 6'2 230lbs builtfat
>>28995112This is bullshit no offense. 18-25 is hot and if I ever get divorced from my wife then bet your ass I’m getting a barely legal chick. Most guys agree with me and that’s ok>>28995629>t.virgin but could get pussy every weekendsureeeeeee lol>>28996339Yes thats what chads do>>28996501You’ve been on 5 dates and haven’t fucking kissed? You better kiss next date or she’ll think you’re a homo. You don’t need the right mood or anything just go right in for it towards the end of the date. I figure after 5 dates she’s probably squirming for you to make out with her. Holy shit dude just make a move already, she must really like you if shes still going out with you. Like I said though literally just go in for it? Is she a born again who was a former roastie being that she’s 30>>28996653Is this ogrebro? Dude stop you keep having QTs come up to you and you don’t do anything. Stop making posts here until you simply just talk back to a girl. If a girl talks to you then just talk back. Stop erring your insecurities ruin your life dumbass. I’m really starting to think you’re actually retarded
>>28996737It is ogre indeed
Bros, how often do women in public look and check you out in public? How subtle are they about it? Do they make eye contact for longer than normal?
>>28996883>how often do women in public look and check you out in public?once in a blue moon>How subtle are they about it?not subtle at all>Do they make eye contact for longer than normal?yeah, they even stare at you sometimes
>>28996501>We've been on 5 dates already and nothing happened yet.What the hell man. Jesus. She probably thinks you're her gay friend.
>>28996890Interesting, so it's rare but true I thought women making googly eyes was a fake Hollywood trope.Any other chads here who can confirm that females stare at them?
>>28996970Sometimes, I fit a very specific type so those women tend to look, but it mostly depends on the place I guess. Public transportation I don't have many looks as I tend to keep low. But in the end it does not really matters, as at my culture they will almost never make a move
>>28996883Almost never. Unless you're tall, very handsome, or have an eccentric look (streetwear, rocker, e-boy, full suit, etc.) you're basically unnoticeable unless you make yourself known by talking to them first. Always approach first THEN look for signs, never wait for signs first THEN approach.
17 hours now and club girl hasn't replied to my first text. She can go fuck herself.
Two hot girls approached me at clubs within a few months. Both rejected me, one for my job, the other for being alone. Fuck women.
>got cheated on by ex of 5 years at the start of the year>meet 9/10 on hinge 2 months later, fuck her on first date but she ghosts me even though sex was great (this one really hurt)>go on 4th date with different hinge girl, halfway through she gets a phone call from her friend having a “breakdown” and has to leave to “help her”, haven’t spoke since>ask for a qts number at a bar who is a friend of a friend, she texts back once enthusiastically, never replied to my next text afterwards>go on another first date with another hot hinge girl, her replies have massively slowed down and getting the vibe it’s over nowwhen will the pain end? i feel like there’s something i’m doing wrong but i don’t know what, i’m better than average in looks and i’m not that autistic
>talking with a they/them lesbian tiktok zoomer, friend of a friend >take her on a date>super cute and legitimately nice person>didn't even fuck yet and she tells me she thinks she's only half lesbianWhat are the odds of saving her?
>>28997198Don't know if I will ever fuck a girl as hot as them or if all girls like them will reject me for my job/not having friends/being neurotic or something else.
>>28997226>fuck her on first date but she ghosts me>(this one really hurt)What you should expect from someone who fucks on the first dateI feel you though, dating like this just isn't a great way to get to know someone
is it worth it to make a tiktok just to meet some girls? I am good looking and dress well for what its worth
>>28997254yeah that girl was batshit insane but she was really cool to talk to and we had similar niche interests, it came across like she did that to guys all the time though it still sucks to not be good enough for someone. what would was so bad with me that she would rather ghost me?
>>28997198>>28997247It's not those things themselves but your attitude towards them. Clearly you see them as a shortcoming so they could maybe tell you were a bit embarrassed when you talked about them. So either change those things, or try not to put so much weight on them
>>28997286Bullshit fuck off pseud
>>28997276Yeah, I get you, I had the exact same experience recently. Met at a concert for a relatively obscure band, she had similar niche interests, was probably one of the most interesting girls I ever talked to, and we seemed to really get along, but we fucked on the first date and then she ghosted me. I was pretty hurt for the same reason, wondering to myself why wasn't I good enough, wondering if there was another guy similar but better, etc.The best advice I heard for this type of thing was something like "even the best version of yourself wouldn't have kept her," which is to say that it's on her for not realizing when she has it good and she probably doesn't have a clue what she actually wants or needs. The more I looked back on it the more I realized it was something she did often, and even if I was perfect it wouldn't have changed the outcome at all
Got pretty far with one girl. I kissed her and we hung out several times. Then she started acting super annoying and childish and I told her to fuck off.I often feel like pussy just isn't worth all the energy and other stuff I have to put up with.
>>28997231If she says dhes "only" half then she wants to be dicked mateIts a green light
>>28997184Should I text her again in a week or two? One girl I approached didn't reply the same day, nor when I texted again 4 days later, but then 12 days after meeting her I texted again and then she replied. Is it worth a try?
So the situation is this, I've liked this girl from our friendgroup for a while but never made moves because beta, recently, she got into dating some dude, but during a conversation with a mutual friend she said she wasnt sure it was going anywhere and, out of nowhere accoring to him, said that she found me attractive, he sold that info to me and i sorta tried to test the waters, but also kinda spaguetti'd and didnt feel such interest from her, but also i think she is respecting her thing with this dude, anyway, the other day she brought her mf to our hangings and i got sorta into sad mode and have not been continuing my pursue, did i do good here? should i have just go full hunter chad on her despite not having my advances reciprocrated? why would she even say she fancy me in the first place?
>>28997472Yes, go “hunter chad” mode. I haven’t been in this situation, but I imagine that fighting for her attention and refusing to lose her to someone else would be attractive to a girl>why would she even say she fancy me in the first place?Because you’re a cool guyIf a friend you trust told her she’s attracted, just take it for granted that she’s into you and don’t try to impress her. No need for spaghetti having that information
Any other ideas other than dating apps?Got out of my first longer relationship and dating is abysmal, I’m 27 but the girls are uninteresting or uninterested. I have hobbies, work and good pay, go out, gym etc.And sure maybe I’m an autist since I’m here but I have four other fucking male friends with vastly different life builds from sport to engineering to arts and they all got shit to show from their time on dating apps, it’s fucking laughable how down bad we all are.
>>28997434Oh I know she wants to fuck, that much is obvious. I meant potential for a long term relationship with someone who's mentally stable
>>28985800Where is the best place to find asian girls? I want an asian girlfriend but I don't see many of them here and I dunno if they are into men like me.
Where can I go to strike up conversations with women/girls? I'm 25 years old, and I went to a bar yesterday, but its all boomers there. Is it socially acceptable to strike up conversations at cafes and stuff? I hate the club environment.
>>28997566>potential for a long term relationship with someone who's mentally stableit's 2023 mate
>>28997500Hit the bar scene. It's fun. You don't want to marry any of these girls but you shouldn't go unsexed . A lot of them have decent banter and fun to hang with in the short term
>>28997792Idk man bars have people in their 20s in my city. I also dislike clubs.
What's the best way to get the info if a girl is single or not ? I know that asking directly is considered weird.
>>28992718Maybe I just live in a shit place but I have trouble finding events, groups, classes around here. The gym I go to has different exercises classes but I'd rather just do my own workout. Everything else just seems focused towards families or seniors.
So I am at a place to study and I see a cute girl. What are the signs that I could approach or what can I do to perhaps entice her to approach?
People usually talk about how in bar you can easily chat with girls but I feel like in this day and age, it's weird to talk to total strangers out of the blue or am i wrong ? Also if you actually can, how do I start a conversation in these situations ?
>>28997933Bro i feel you most of the events I go to is focused on boomers. I tried a LOT of things and I am usually the youngest by far even though I am in my mid twenties.
do we really need an entire general to tell you people not to be retarded but more importantly to make sure they have an attractive face?
I'm in my early 30s and I want to date again. But I want a woman with no sexual past. How do I filter for it as early as possible into dating without coming off as rude? I am willing to lower my standards to a point. I have tried to get over body count in the past but I can't. And then they always reveal some whorish thing they did and I instantly stop having any feelings for them. This is very difficult for me and it made me stop dating for a long time.
>>28986758Although a lot of people often meet their significant other through mutual relationships it's stupid to build a whole social circle with the sole intent to get girls, even more so a social circle with people that you may not even like.Attempting any level of abstraction (incels call it *something*maxxing) with the sole main intention to get girls is stupid.
>>28998016Are you trolling or what, nowhere outside /adv/ I see this obsession with body count.
>>2898580032M3 relationships (4 years, 6 months, 3 months)I haven't dated in a long time due to past issues with girls cheating on me. Left the dating scene to focus on myself: I'm in a much better place financially, physically, and mentally and I'm trying get back into things. Long term goal is a serious relationship and ideally have a family. I tried dating apps, but I'm a 6 (from honest feedback and online image rating sites) and never got much out of it. What is the best way to get a date these days? Is it acceptable to just ask a woman out if we haven't really met before? If not, what would be a better approach? Will answer questions if it'll help.
>>28998207No I am not trolling. I'm just tired. Don't care about /adv/ or this site's consensus.
>>28997487I dont think i have that lvl of confidence but i'll try, thanks man, i'll see we hang as a group this weekend and try again.
>>28998486Don't do unnatural shit. It's the mindset you have to change, not your behavior. If you change your mindset, that you can get this thot and she'll find you interesting because you are interesting, you have a shot at it. If you just go "hunter alpha" mode and it's just posturing people see right through it.
>>28998513Don't tell people you "never had a gf", say you "want something serious this time". They'll probably ghost you even faster lol
>>28998289Serious advice, convert to religion/Islam. Yu got no other chances
>>28998540I'm not religious. I tried attending church for other reasons but it didn't work out. I don't live in America but we're modernizing very quickly and I doubt I have a chance at all. I don't like casual sex so it's pretty hard for me to accept being completely alone for the rest of my life, but I'm not compromising on this anymore.
>>28998525Yeah I don't tell them that but I was saying that I have before and that it comes off as offputting. I don't think I'd say I want something serious because that seems like it would come off as needy
the fuck do i do when she's throwing complete bullshit at me, not sure if she's attention whoring or not since another dude is also flirting with her. she's saying things like she has X, Y and Z mental disorder, being a junkie, pregnant, not remembering what she did during the weekend implying cus of the latter, etc. as well as being nudist and insinuating naughty things. also claimed she doesnt drink and dont like furries so im sort of confused.i called her out on the drugs and preggo part and she went "oh" and laughed. shortly after i jokingly called her a compulsive liar and told her to prove her shit. she was still smiling a lot and laughing thru-out so dont think i've completely blown things, but how the fuck do i proceed into the proper man-to-woman intimate flirting?is straight telling her to invite me to one of her supposed escapades a good way to get her contact info?
>>28998591Doesn't seem like a needy thing to say but maybe I'm wrong.
>>28998607Stay a mile away from this mental case.
>>28998612i still kinda want (and need) the experience from this. she has stated she wants someone that's stable inside, so i think a lot of it at this point is just joking around and the first times was a test to see how i react.
>>28998629Giving you shit like this is a massive red flag.
Not sure if I should hit up my wingman again or not. He didn't seem to have very fun last time. The other wingman is a weird dumb faggot, despite standing me up he keeps sending me video snaps.
>>28998645alright, but i still need to figure out how to respond to sexual flirting and progressing
24 hours now and club whore hasn't replied. Most likely didn't think my job was good enough. Fuck her. I hope one day I'll fuck someone as hot as the two girls who approached me at clubs the last few months who both rejected me. Fucking sucks when you get approached by hot girls and then they reject you.
>>28998749you keep talking about your fucking wingmen all the fucking time, you gay motherfucker
>>28998574You've got no other chance. If you've made your choice, then that's that. Sayonara
>>28998807Fuck off faggot
>>28998794I shouldn't send any more texts right? That's needy and simp behavior right? I sent "hi" two days after meeting her.
>>28998885project more, homo. you never talk about anything else than your interactions with the fucking "wingmen", never about meeting women.
>>28998905Yeah I do dumb neckbeard faggot. Kys
how to do a casual fuck buddy thing with coworker who doesnt date coworkers?
>>28982954Thanks, I needed to be called a retard. Asked her out and she said yes
>>28996501look up "dicarlo escalation ladder". i was big into redpill shit when i was a young autist, now i'm a mid 20s autist.however, a concrete "this is how you begin initiating physical contact with a woman" strategy is useful. following the rough concept laid out by the dude is sufficient for everything i've needed.i'd summarize my strategy as firstly, trying to get incidental physical contact with the person. touch her arm while talking, rest your leg against hers, sorta place your hand on the small of her back if you're holding a door for her. things that can be normal but they activate neurons.i've found it most useful to try and kiss a girl probably in a place you intend to have sex with her. so like, maybe on a couch, or sitting on a bed, and you're watching some stupid show. you both plop down and you intentionally sit with your arm against hers, so it would be easy for her to just tilt her head over and rest it on your shoulder. when it's appropriate, maybe sort of shuffle and move your arm up like it's uncomfortable, and place it around her. you can sorta gently rub her side and kind of pull yourself/her closer. eventually you're practically touching your faces against each other. kind of rub your face against hers or something for a bit, and you'll feel the tension. i feel it even as a sperg. and at that point, just sorta lean over and go for it. and i swear to god every time they're like a magnet. i think "there's no way" and every time they always fucking kiss back. takes probably 15-30 minutes from when you first sit down to watch show.and you keep going you don't just stop at kissing. you're making out at this point. there's more ramping and escalation but you pretty much guarantee sex if you can just make out with her in that situation. i get better results long-term if i do that, as opposed to just kissing a girl when i say goodbye or whatever.
>>28997792>Is it socially acceptable to strike up conversations at cafes and stuff?i think about it like this: would i be okay with a fairly normal person coming up and talking to me for 5-10 minutes in this situation?if so, then i don't think it's weird to initiate it.so i wouldn't want someone chatting me up at the grocery store, i'm there on a mission, fuck off. but, if i'm just sitting having coffee, sure. important is to not do it to just women, because probably the people who go to the cafe, go there regularly, and will notice it. but if some person is just sitting alone, drinking coffee, especially if they're just staring into space, just say "hey, mind if i sit here?" and gesture to next to them. they go "sure". then just talk about shit for 5 to 10 minutes. if they seem cool, ask for their phone number, and leave. it's simple, but it's not easy. it's scary until you realize that it's not a big deal.
Any of you guys have experience looking for girls at church? I've never been to a church before.
Date told me I am too short for her standards, but she will give me a chance anyway. I'm 5'10''Should I even try? It feels like she will give me a chance until she finds someone taller
>>28998899i usually will give someone like, two messages, and then i just quit.most practical is something that sparks a conversation. in my case, i ride my bike in the woods on trails a lot, so i take pictures of stuff pretty often. i've done things like, sent a picture of some deer i saw, and said "dude i was out biking today and saw this HUGE fucking deer i couldn't believe it". just something that seems authentic, like you could actually have had some thing happen in life and you thought "i gotta show someone this". that way it doesn't feel like you're just pestering her to respond. in my mind, it comes off as "i'm living my life anyway, here's some neat shit that happened in it". this is a very personal thing, but in my head it's more authentic than saying something like "hey wats up" or "u busy" or some other stupid garbage.
>>28999243>wanna see my sexy nightmare waifu render? fresh off the presses ;)>think I could pull off a cosplay? ;)>unless you work for Guillermo del Toro I doubt it ;)>D:
>>28999231Was she joking? Is she taller than you? A girl really said that to you?I’ve never gotten this but if someone said that to me seriously then I wouldn’t talk to them again.
>>28999356She is 5'5''. Yes, she told me that. But you knowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abrn8aVQ76QI just kept talking with her trying to not appear as if her comment on height affected me at all
>>28998645i cant find any hard signs she is any of the things she's saying. possibly she might be recovering addict.
>>28997792I tried cafes. Don't seem great to me. You can really only talk to a girl if she sits down next to you or if you can sit down next to her without coming off as creepy. Walking over to approach like at a club is weird at a cafe. For this reason I only got a few approaches after many hours spent at cafes so I don't bother with it anymore. Roosh thinks it's great, never understood why. Maybe it's different in America.
>35 years old>1 previous sexual partner>probably never made her cum in years, break up>meet new girl>she cums 3 times in a row the first time we have sexIt was insane wtf
>>28999209I went to a catholic mass to see if it was a place to hit on girls. I think some girls checked me out but I don't think you can talk to girls there. I did see a lot of girls enter the church like an hour before the mass though so they probably have some kind of before talk or whatever, that's probably where you can talk to girls. The mass was a waste of time.
>>28999490I only made one girl cum out of 13 or so I fucked. That was when I fingered her. Couldn't tell she came but she said she did.
>>28999243Well one girl I approached didn't reply the same night, was a mistake texting so early anyway, then didn't reply 4 days later, but when I texted again 12 days after meeting her she replied and we eventually had 2 dates, then she went back to her country and says she doesn't know if she's coming back or not but maybe within 3 months. So maybe I should try 2 more times with this girl. However with this girl I waited 2 days until I sent the first text.
>>28999508>>28999508>I only made one girl cum out of 13 or so I fucked.are you a 2 incher or something, how is that even possible
>>28999537Fuck off virgin
>>28999530get more. if you have fewer options, they matter more to you and you're more likely to overthink shit.
>>28999546lmao I'll take it as a yes
>>28999581No dumbass I have a normal dick. You haven't even had sex.
>>28999595>You haven't even had sex.Is this also what you tell girls when you can't make them cum?
>>28985832take her out and hit on girls with herI used to hang out with this self proclaimed lesbian girl, used to play vidya with her. Never hit on her cause I assumed she was full on gay afflicted. But one night she got drunk and flashed me, and I realized that maybe she was hitting on me and I was too dense to understand.
I don't have too much of an issue sleeping with / dating women but I always feel like there is something missing. My type is Asian and South American women. However, I would say that 9/10 girls I get with are Asian and all of my girlfriends have been Asian.It's either they are >very nice, caring, thoughtful and has hobbies but I'm not 100% physically attracted to them.>physically attracted to them but numerous red flags, different future plans, older or no hobbies other than shopping.Even my ex was very pretty and was caring, thoughtful and put in effort into the relationship but I still had wandering eyes. She broke up with me because I kept in contact with an old FWB who I considered a great person. That was almost a year ago and I'm still not over her.A girl I've been seeing for about two months has been great towards me. However, each time we hang out, I feel like she is getting slightly less attractive to me. I'm still constantly eyeing up other women.I feel like I have an ideal woman but no one has met that ideal yet. There is always something that is missing.Any help?
>>28999743did the caring/loving ones dress in a way you disliked? maybe no makeup, no heels, etc.telling a girl to dress up more attractively when she's out with you is almost always welcome if you ask with tact. girls love to feel sexy
>>28997358this is true and definitely correct in most cases, though it will forever play on my mind that i might have said something that was taken the wrong way or something about my physical appearance was unattractive to them or that i didn’t have gigachad confidence. or i had something in my teeth at one point. or because they don’t think my job is attractive enoughyou can argue that it means if it was something as dumb as that then they aren’t worth it anyway, but my self esteem is going down because of how many times this keeps happening
>>28999843I don't think it's about how they dress. I don't mind if they don't dress up all the time. A lot of the times I like when they just wear casual clothing. I think it's more about their physical appearance, like their body / face. It feels like I always want someone cuter, sexier and prettier. I was seeing the Asian woman who was 9 years older than me. Worked out, looked like she was earlier 20s and payed for a lot of our dates / vacations. She was probably the hottest women I've been with in my life. However, despite being caring, thoughtful etc, she had a lot of red flags as well as things like she didn't want (such as another kid).I entered the dating scene a little late. I'm 30 now and I've only been dating since I was 24. I've always been pretty good looking but never went out of my way to date women. All I did was play video games and stay inside. Obviously I'm never going to meet women that way. Maybe I simply don't know what I want in a woman yet or maybe I'm just not meant to be monogamous. I think I was at my happiest (dating wise) when I was seeing 3 different women at once.
>>28999372You’re a dude and a girl is teasing you. Just make fun of her back. Haven’t you ever been roasted by a friend lol stop taking it like a fag especially if she wasn’t serious about it. Even if she was just make fun of her back for being a midget
how do you cope with the truth of the blackpill and that everyone you meet IRL will gaslight you?
>she put her phone on do not disturb after i text her halfway through the conversation>it’s been almost 8 hours and it’s still on itdamn, might be over. or on a date with someone else that’s gone well enough that they’re spending the night with each other. she’s bisexual though, so i hope it’s with another girl, somehow that doesn’t make as jealous
I am only attracted to thin women. I live in America. How can I manage this?
>>28985848not him but I've got a similar situation >me 28 >worked at a local supermarket a year ago, left for better work>go there to buy food after work >chat with hs zoomer girl who I met when I worked there>qt 16 year old >pretty sure she like me, always stops to talk to me, seems really attentive, never runs off >have a nice chat, sometimes I feel like she is just waiting for me to ask her out, eventually I end the conversation Should I ask this girl out? Yes underage but I'd be willing to meet her parents or whatever. Maybe start with something basic like an ice cream date to screen her for any undesirable traits
How often do you guys go out to meet girls? One bar night a week doesn't feel like enough to me.
>>29000145I got out literally once a month and just make the most of it. I work most weekends so I try to get out when I can so I send it and can get like 5-10 numbers in a night. This results in pussy that usually sustains me for about a months and I go out again
Going on my first date ever soon with a girl i met at the mall. So far everything is going great and i think i have a good conversation lined out but since this is my first date i hope im not too awkward. How do i greet her? Waving and smiling? Do i wait for her outside or inside and then order stuff for us after she arrives? (we're going to starbucks) At the end what do. I don't wanna come off creepy or weird but so far shes pretty into me i think
>>29000098hit a gym?
>>29000098Start by losing weight yourself, fatty
>>29000192You're getting way too paranoid about this. Take it easy. Treat it like you're going out with a friend (not behaviorally though).
>>29000200I'm not fat. I have abs and moderate muscle, but it doesn't seem to make any difference.>>29000197Is talking to girls at the gym ever possible? How do you do it?
>>29000145I go out 4 times a week as recommended by someone else on this general. I hated the first two weeks, but I think I'm starting to get more comfortable in bar environments now. I'm trying to bruteforce becoming a social butterfly
>>29000216Post body or gtfoI’ll know if it’s something from /fit/ too
>>29000216>How do you do it?You exhale while you let your vocal cords vibrate. With this trick you can produce sounds, and this will allow you to communicate in a (possibly shared) language. Try it!
>>29000239i think he means specifically what sort of strategy to use. i don't really get it either. i'm at the gym to get my fucking pump i don't want to talk to anyone. fuck off. no i don't want to spot you. no you can't work in.
>>29000234Do you go to the same bars each time? Are you known at them?
>>29000245IDK it's pretty social at mine. Plenty of people who don't have earplugs and chat between sets.
I know it's a numbers game when you approach girls like the Boomhauer clip shows, even at clubs, but is it a numbers game even when girls approach you? I was approached by two hot girls at clubs and both rejected me. Starting to lose hope I'll ever fuck a girl as hot as them if even those who approach me reject me, maybe all girls as hot as them think something about me isn't good enough even if some are attracted initially.
>>29000306I go to the same bar twice a week for good deals at happy hour, the other two I switch up
>>29000706If they approach you and then reject you, it means you fucked something up, not that you’re not “good enough.” I don’t think whether you’re “good enough” or not even matters for these types of encounters. Maybe you thinking you’re not good enough for them is making you act nervous, girls can smell self-consciousness from a mile away. If they’re approaching you the you must be attractive, so take confidence in that and roll with it. You can take it for granted they’re attracted to you so you don’t have to worry about impressing them
>>29000958>you the youThen*
>>29000958Nah pretty sure one rejected me for my job and the other for being alone on a cruiseferry and for thinking I was neurotic. The girl who approached me Saturday asked almost immediately when we got outside to smoke what I do for a living and that seemed like the turning point.
>>29001027But it could be something else. The only things I can think of with the girl Saturday are:>I opened her pack of cigarettes and asked if it was the last one, even though she had already told me it was the last one >I asked her to repeat herself multiple times because I couldn't hear some word she saidBut most likely it's that she doesn't think my shit job is good enough, something which happens to me a lot.
Do you bring condoms in your pocket if you pick up a girl from the club at midnight and want to fuck her at her home/at an hotel room? Assuming everything is closed by that time and you can't buy condoms elsewhere
>>29001054Didn't fuck a girl from a club yet. I never bring condoms when I go to bars/clubs. I did fuck a girl at her hotel whom I approached a few hours earlier in a park. I said I was going to buy water at a 7 eleven, bought water and condoms. Fucked her both with condom and raw.
>>29001054>an hotel roomFucking pseud
>>29001054i keep emergency condom in wallet always. yes, it's not good for the condom, but it's better than nothing.
>>29001084Something wrong with being ESL and poor, sir?
>>29001098You are yes
>>29001114Something wrong, sir?
>>29001126Learn English. It's "a hotel".
>>29001212It is "a hotel" dumbass. At least spell it "hôtel" and don't pronounce the h if you want to be a pseud.